Regular Season Thread 08/09

[Caddy]

For all discussions on the upcoming match.

Anyone else think the Saints are being over-rated at the moment? Because I know I'm feeling that way.

[Canadian_kid16]

We rarely play a complete game against the Saints, or in Week 1 in general

I'm actually expecting a loss in a game we shouldn't lose...its just how the Bucs like to work...losing a game we shoulda won

[Bruce Banner]

You mother ******* ready?

T-Jax is gonna send Reggie back in time to SC this Sunday.

[Bruce Banner]

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k237/mpmalloy/leonides_clip.gif

[Bruce Banner]

http://www.buccaneers.com/media/photos/misc/101004_phillips.jpg

[Caddy]

Love the gif.

[Caddy]

Offense = Atrocious.

[Chucky]

No timeouts. That is some nice game management

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Anybody else as pissed as I am on the blatant hold on Gaines on the 26 yard catch by Reggie?

[Caddy]

God that was an awful performance.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

**** Jeff Garcia. Matt Grothe made that same exact INT yesterday. Plus he's faster. And can actually throw a ******* deep ball.


Sidenote: The NFL is ******* fixed those ******* refs can go **** the mob those horse********. *****. ******* cheating sons of ******* that should go back to sucking the mob's collective ****. GOD.

[Beans]

but new orleans had a TRAGEDY


so they had to win, you see

[Canadian_kid16]

sorry guys, I predicted this would happen :(

last time this happened though, we ended up 12-4 and won the Super Bowl?

[Tampa 2 4 life]

sorry guys, I predicted this would happen :(

last time this happened though, we ended up 12-4 and won the Super Bowl?

If only Garcia was Grothe, we could have lost in STYLE.

[zCaddyz]

lotta things made me mad

Garcia- now i wish we got farve
Galloway-Wtf where you doing
Trueblood-I hope you get replaced
And who ever replaced brookes and let reggie break one off

[Bruce Banner]

As *** as it sounds. I was extremely emotional this game, I just wanted the win that badly. Probably would have cried if I was there.
:P

[Tampa 2 4 life]

And who ever replaced brookes and let reggie break one off

Matt Mccoy. Why Quincy wasn't out there? No one will know.

[zCaddyz]

Thats what i was thinking? and what was up with dexter jackson he just falls on the ground before anyone hits him.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Thats what i was thinking? and what was up with dexter jackson he just falls on the ground before anyone hits him.

Not rare for a rookie returner on turf.

[Bruce Banner]

Not rare for a rookie returner on turf.

Turf is ****. I'm proud to say that the players vote Tampa as the best grass every year.
:D

[Captain Fear]

I was not impressed with Antonio Bryant's performance this week. It may have just been a lack of chemistry with Garcia, but I'd rather see Clayton or Stovall get a chance to suck it up than the new guy. Looks like our WR problems may be significantly exposed this season.

All things considered however, I was quite pleased with the Bucs performance. I expected them to get smashed this week similar to their start last year in Seattle. Unfortunately all the other NFC south teams looked very strong this week. That does not bode well.

[Watchman]

That was a frustrating game. Frustrating because it was more of the same on offense, with the exception of the running game. The Bucs were running right through the Saints, yet they abandon the run way early. I saw a few articles that said the Bucs average 9.1 yds. on running plays and 4.something on passing plays. Why the Bucs didn't run more is beyond me.

There were in it in the end, despite some bad play from Garcia, Galloway, the o-line, and D. This team isn't going to do very much if the D is going to give up big plays all year.

Still no pass rush and Gruden's O is even more tired this year than last year. Is it just me or is it too easy to predict what play they are going to run?

[Caddy]

After having time to digest the game and the result, I think there are a few positives to take out of the match.

1. We were in the game until the end. Now I'm not really sure how this was possible, but we had a chance to win the game in the dying minutes. Now we didn't capitalize on this chance, but it was still available to us.
2. The running game was extremely solid. Graham and Dunn did everything they were asked to do and if Garcia could get his game going, we might have been able to convert a third down instead of having to punt for the 3242342345th time.

Other than that, I don't think there is a huge lot to be proud of.

1. The return game was average.
2. The defense had HUGE lapses in concentration; see Patten and Henderson and Bush TD's.
3. The QB to WR connection just wasn't working. Galloway had a few catches as did Bryant, but neither looked dangerous. Ike Hilliard played fairly well when asked to do something but I guess he has carved that niche for himself.
4. 3rd down conversion. I think we were something like 2/12 on 3rd downs and that simply won't cut it. Maybe the reason our defense gave up too many big plays was because they were on the field a lot longer than they should have been.

Next week is definitely going to be an important match for the Buccaneers. Our first game at Raymond James against last years cellar dwellers. I think we have the running defense to handle Turner/Norwood and I think our DB's will bounce back and give Ryan a tough time. A loss to a divisional rival two weeks in a row is NOT acceptable.

[iloxygenil]

I'm very excited to see how this game plays itself out. I do believe that the Bucs will win this game...check that...I did believe that...until you had 2 key pieces come up wounded. Now I think the game will be much tougher for you guys.

Things to watch in this game

1.) Can either team stop the run, the team who does wins imo.
2.) Can Atlanta's OL hold up against Tampa's pass rush
3.) Can Atlanta's CBs play this week? I know you guys had a bad game on offense last week, but you know Gruden will be all over them this week. Atlanta's DBs, played poorly the first week (mainly because of some bad PIs) but that will cost us dearly this week.
4.) Can Tampa deal with Turner/Norwood? To be perfectly honest, at this point the answer is not a chance in hell. But if they can make some big plays early and get confidence going on that side of the ball, I believe they can. But don't believe they will. Now, Turner will not have another 200+ yard game or a 10ypc game, but he imo will be about the 120 mark with a TD to go along with it. But I don't expect to see any 60+ yard runs against your defense.

So, here's to a good game with no injuries.

[Caddy]

I'm very excited to see how this game plays itself out. I do believe that the Bucs will win this game...check that...I did believe that...until you had 2 key pieces come up wounded. Now I think the game will be much tougher for you guys.

I assume you are talking about Garcia and Brooks? Yeah they are injured, but both are minor injuries and I doubt either of them miss the Falcons game.



Things to watch in this game

1.) Can either team stop the run, the team who does wins imo.

Completely agree with you. Both teams have started the year of with a nice one-two punch. Turner and Norwood looked great in the first game, and whilst they won't replicate their performance against the Lions most weeks, they will still probably be extremely solid all year long. And we all know what to expect from Earnest Graham & co.


2.) Can Atlanta's OL hold up against Tampa's pass rush

If Tampa Bay's pass rush plays as terribly as they did against the Saints then we are in trouble. Greg White needs to be on the field on more often.

3.) Can Atlanta's CBs play this week? I know you guys had a bad game on offense last week, but you know Gruden will be all over them this week. Atlanta's DBs, played poorly the first week (mainly because of some bad PIs) but that will cost us dearly this week.[quote]

I'm sure this area will be targeted by Gruden, but I still think we will go to the run 60% of the time and try to beat you that way. Galloway will be a threat as always and I hope Bryant, Clayton and Stovall show up.

[quote=iloxygenil;1204918]
4.) Can Tampa deal with Turner/Norwood? To be perfectly honest, at this point the answer is not a chance in hell. But if they can make some big plays early and get confidence going on that side of the ball, I believe they can. But don't believe they will. Now, Turner will not have another 200+ yard game or a 10ypc game, but he imo will be about the 120 mark with a TD to go along with it. But I don't expect to see any 60+ yard runs against your defense.

I think the most crucial thing to realise is that the Lions are not the Buccaneers. I really can't see Turner and Norwood getting anywhere near the totals that they had against the Lions. They will definitely be a threat, but they won't own the game as well as they did in Week 1.


So, here's to a good game with no injuries.

Can't complain with this at all.

[d34ng3l021]

Very excited about this game. Our first real test comes very early in the season against a division opponent.

I see us coming back down to reality, but having a shot into the 3rd quarter maybe. Definitely not like the previous Buccaneer losses we have had.

The 2 biggest things that interest me is how our offensive line will hold up and how Ryan does.

Our offensive line dominated against the Lions, and though it was the Lions...it was the Falcons offensive line. The line that was called weak throughout the offseason with the left tackle that was considered a major reach and with the RG and RT as 2 UDFAs. I myself had huge doubts about this offensive line but they were downright nasty against the Lions. I want to see if they can continue this play. I do not expect in any way the same sort of dominance against Adams and Hoye (? one of the DTs. He is a beast), but will they hold their own, something an Atlanta OL has not done in the past? I am very excited to see this match up. If we can do a decent job against you guys, I will be able to sleep much easier at nights. Just the thought of having an above average offensive line makes me giddy.

I am a huge Ryan fan now and love his tools. So many people praise him and so many people think he can be one of the elite QBs in the future. Baldinger and Mayock absolutely love this guy. There was a segment on NFL Network about Jim Mora talking about Peyton Manning in his rookie season. He talked about how you could see the comings of a leader, and despite his 28 interceptions, he did a ton of things well. Those are the signs I want to see. His first NFL pass was one helluva throw and he looked great inside the pocket. If he can show some of that stuff against the Bucs, I will be happy. I do not expect him to have good stats, but I do hope that he has 5-6 of those "signs" during the game. If he can pull those signs off against the reigning number 1 pass defense as a rookie, he can pull it off on a more consistent basis against any team in the near future.

I am so excited to see how this team actually is. I know I am banking a lot on this game, and it has great potential to devastate me, but whatever. The Lions game gave me a ton of optimism.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

This game is seriously scaring me without Garcia.

[Caddy]

This game is seriously scaring me without Garcia.

Just throw in Josh Johnson. He has 90 speed in Madden so he must be good.

[d34ng3l021]

Didn't know where else to post this, but this should be fine.

Tanard Jackson is ridiculous. I am watching the Saints-Bucs game, and he is everywhere. Making the tackles and breaking up the passes. You guys found an absolute stud in him. He should make a name for himself as one of the top safeties at the end of this season. What I would do to have him on the Falcons...

I think you guys should not have too much of a hard time running on us. I love Grady Jackson and our only hope lies in him, but the guards you have are very dominant. The tackles however could use improvement. I see John Abraham abusing Garcia or Greise.

Adams and Ruud are studs too. Adams is SO fast off the snap. Ruud is a really smart player. As much is talked about the Bucs getting older and older, they are doing a great job of replacing guys. Ruud, Jackson, and Adams are definitely the future. Especially Jackson.

[Bruce Banner]

Didn't know where else to post this, but this should be fine.

Tanard Jackson is ridiculous. I am watching the Saints-Bucs game, and he is everywhere. Making the tackles and breaking up the passes. You guys found an absolute stud in him. He should make a name for himself as one of the top safeties at the end of this season. What I would do to have him on the Falcons...

I think you guys should not have too much of a hard time running on us. I love Grady Jackson and our only hope lies in him, but the guards you have are very dominant. The tackles however could use improvement. I see John Abraham abusing Garcia or Greise.

Adams and Ruud are studs too. Adams is SO fast off the snap. Ruud is a really smart player. As much is talked about the Bucs getting older and older, they are doing a great job of replacing guys. Ruud, Jackson, and Adams are definitely the future. Especially Jackson.

A classy Falcons fan that does his research! You my friend are a diamond in the rough! Good luck Sunday, I hope Turner starts to remember he's Michael Turner and not LT.

[Caddy]

Didn't know where else to post this, but this should be fine.

Tanard Jackson is ridiculous. I am watching the Saints-Bucs game, and he is everywhere. Making the tackles and breaking up the passes. You guys found an absolute stud in him. He should make a name for himself as one of the top safeties at the end of this season. What I would do to have him on the Falcons...

I think you guys should not have too much of a hard time running on us. I love Grady Jackson and our only hope lies in him, but the guards you have are very dominant. The tackles however could use improvement. I see John Abraham abusing Garcia or Greise.

Adams and Ruud are studs too. Adams is SO fast off the snap. Ruud is a really smart player. As much is talked about the Bucs getting older and older, they are doing a great job of replacing guys. Ruud, Jackson, and Adams are definitely the future. Especially Jackson.

I'm sure you would have watched one of the Bucs/Falcons games last year (The 2nd game I believe) and I'm really scared of the bolded sentence above happening. Donald Penn has a bit of troubles with elite rushers like John Abraham and I expect a lot of help from Sears. With Abraham leading the Falcons pass rush, I just hope Gaines Adams and Greg White can do the same for the Bucs.

[dbtb135]

I'm sure you would have watched one of the Bucs/Falcons games last year (The 2nd game I believe) and I'm really scared of the bolded sentence above happening. Donald Penn has a bit of troubles with elite rushers like John Abraham and I expect a lot of help from Sears. With Abraham leading the Falcons pass rush, I just hope Gaines Adams and Greg White can do the same for the Bucs.

If Abraham works off the edge, Sears will have trouble helping. I know he'll pretty much nullify anything that comes inside or stunts, but I don't think he'll be much of a factor if Abraham is content with blowing by Penn or using a bull rush to go through him.

I actually like Sam Baker, it should be good watching him and Adams go at it. Adams was pretty much silent last week, but Brown is really good in his own right (and holds a bit).

I think the game comes down to running. I think the Bucs can pretty easily contain (not stop) Turner, and Norwood really feeds off being that big play back. It's not so easy making big plays when the passing game nor running game with Turner aren't going very well. I know if defenses held Garcia and Graham to little that Dunn wouldn't have much of a chance to break one. Norwood is tons faster and a bigger threat, but the same logic applies to him.

I think McCoy was alright against the run, but I'd rather have Black in at SSLB and June in at WSLB. That way we've got guys with size, speed, and good gap responsibility. I think our DTs will play well, and I hope to see something out of Sims again.

We should be able to run on them a bit more too. Sears and True need to handle their business. Gruden should run more since Garcia is questionable, unless he's a complete moron (and I don't really rule that out completely to be honest).

I'm really looking forward to our back 7 vs. Matt Ryan, as opposed to vs. Drew Brees. We may have a really bad pass defense, as evidenced by last week. Or we could still have a top 3 pass defense who played a great passing offense and made a few small mistakes (Ronde falling, Talib mis-timing his jump) on long TDs. It will really go a ways to show us what we have.

[Caddy]

If Abraham works off the edge, Sears will have trouble helping. I know he'll pretty much nullify anything that comes inside or stunts, but I don't think he'll be much of a factor if Abraham is content with blowing by Penn or using a bull rush to go through him.

That is true. It happened a few times last year and I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen a few times this year.


I actually like Sam Baker, it should be good watching him and Adams go at it. Adams was pretty much silent last week, but Brown is really good in his own right (and holds a bit).

Gaines was relatively quite, but don't forget White got his sack when he absolutely destroyed the left side of the New Orleans offensive line.

[Chucky]

Adams and Ruud are studs too. Adams is SO fast off the snap. Ruud is a really smart player. As much is talked about the Bucs getting older and older, they are doing a great job of replacing guys. Ruud, Jackson, and Adams are definitely the future. Especially Jackson.

Check out the sig

[d34ng3l021]

Check out the sig

lol. I gave you that sig. I took it off some other site and posted it here. I couldn't help it. Its such a badass sig.

[Caddy]

Griese starting doesn't make me confident at all. But at least it'll be against the Falcons and not against an incredibly challenging team.

[d34ng3l021]

Griese starting doesn't make me confident at all. But at least it'll be against the Falcons and not against an incredibly challenging team.

Brent Grimes thinks so otherwise.

http://www.atlantafalcons.com/media_library/Photos/2008/07/Training_Camp_073008/~/media/4BE093C2D2D94545B58CB5435B5EAAA7.ashx?w=900&h=600

http://www.atlantafalcons.com/media_library/Photos/2008/08/Training_Camp_080408/~/media/02D59A856C544418B126F43FB79E26D5.ashx?w=900&h=600

(cool pics)

[Caddy]

Brent Grimes thinks so otherwise.

http://www.atlantafalcons.com/media_library/Photos/2008/07/Training_Camp_073008/~/media/4BE093C2D2D94545B58CB5435B5EAAA7.ashx?w=900&h=600 (http://www.atlantafalcons.com/media_library/Photos/2008/07/Training_Camp_073008/%7E/media/4BE093C2D2D94545B58CB5435B5EAAA7.ashx?w=900&h=600)

http://www.atlantafalcons.com/media_library/Photos/2008/08/Training_Camp_080408/~/media/02D59A856C544418B126F43FB79E26D5.ashx?w=900&h=600 (http://www.atlantafalcons.com/media_library/Photos/2008/08/Training_Camp_080408/%7E/media/02D59A856C544418B126F43FB79E26D5.ashx?w=900&h=600)

(cool pics)

If Brent Grimes was Champ Bailey or Antonio Cromartie, I might care what he thought. But considering he is Brent Grimes, I don't think he'll really scare Griese too much. In fact Grimes should be scared of Griese.... I bet he looks something like this.

http://blogs.reuters.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/FrankGrimes.gif

[d34ng3l021]

If Brent Grimes was Champ Bailey or Antonio Cromartie, I might care what he thought. But considering he is Brent Grimes, I don't think he'll really scare Griese too much. In fact Grimes should be scared of Griese.... I bet he looks something like this.

http://blogs.reuters.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/FrankGrimes.gif

It was a semi-joke. But in all seriousness, he has looked good this whole year. I like him a lot. He might turn some heads this year.

Or he might not.

[Caddy]

It was a semi-joke. But in all seriousness, he has looked good this whole year. I like him a lot. He might turn some heads this year.

Or he might not.

I'm hoping he ends up looking like the aforementioned picture. Although seeing as the QB is Griese, it probably won't happen.

[d34ng3l021]

I'm hoping he ends up looking like the aforementioned picture. Although seeing as the QB is Griese, it probably won't happen.

He could totally get embarrassed for sure though. We still do not know if he is just one of those preseason studs. He did well against the Lions, but its the Lions.

[Caddy]

He could totally get embarrassed for sure though. We still do not know if he is just one of those preseason studs. He did well against the Lions, but its the Lions.

Yeah, but it's Brian Griese. BRIAN GRIESE. The king of throwing costly interceptions.

[Bruce Banner]

Yeah, but it's Brian Griese. BRIAN GRIESE. The king of throwing costly interceptions.

His interceptions tend to be in the worst times.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

His interceptions tend to be in the worst times.

We always have Chris S-


****.

[Caddy]

We always have Chris S-


****.

I still believe that Luke McCown is a better option than Griese and Josh Johnson (although 90 speed is tempting) but seeing as Griese is older than McCown he is the logical choice in Gruden's mind.

[Bruce Banner]

I still believe that Luke McCown is a better option than Griese and Josh Johnson (although 90 speed is tempting) but seeing as Griese is older than McCown he is the logical choice in Gruden's mind.

I love that ******* avatar.

McClown for the 2 minute drill, Griese for the rest. I'm sorry, Griese is too bad under pressure and McCown can use his legs (for better or for worse).

What can I say, It got BIGGER!

Sorry an extenze infomercial just ran across the screen.

[Caddy]

I love that ******* avatar.

McClown for the 2 minute drill, Griese for the rest. I'm sorry, Griese is too bad under pressure and McCown can use his legs (for better or for worse).


Honestly I'd take McCown for the whole game rather than Griese. McCown had an excellent passer rating last year in some extended playing time (95+ I believe) and provided the running game is working well, which it should, I think his maneuverability in the pocket gives him the edge over Griese.

[Bruce Banner]

Honestly I'd take McCown for the whole game rather than Griese. McCown had an excellent passer rating last year in some extended playing time (95+ I believe) and provided the running game is working well, which it should, I think his maneuverability in the pocket gives him the edge over Griese.

My only complaint is that he goes Rob Johnson too often. Supposedly it's Gruden's fault, he makes guys afraid to take risks because they don't want to be torn to shreds by him....so they hesitate.

[Caddy]

My only complaint is that he goes Rob Johnson too often. Supposedly it's Gruden's fault, he makes guys afraid to take risks because they don't want to be torn to shreds by him....so they hesitate.

He has some bad habits, but so do any QB. Maybe with more playing time he could iron them out.

btw, how much time do you spend on NFLDC? I've seen your name flying around everywhere at the moment.

[Bruce Banner]

He has some bad habits, but so do any QB. Maybe with more playing time he could iron them out.

btw, how much time do you spend on NFLDC? I've seen your name flying around everywhere at the moment.

Recently, a **** ton.

[Caddy]

Recently, a **** ton.

Well it is always good to have another Buc poster around. The fans we've had in the Buccaneers forum haven't been great in the past, but I think we have a decent mix at the moment.

[Bruce Banner]

Well it is always good to have another Buc poster around. The fans we've had in the Buccaneers forum haven't been great in the past, but I think we have a decent mix at the moment.

you're a quality poster, continue to inform.

[d34ng3l021]

Aw. You guys are having a moment.

[Caddy]

you're a quality poster, continue to inform.

I try. This forum has been quiet lately so the more we have posters like yourself, Chucky, T24L, (etk whenever he decided to show up), dbtb; the better.

[Caddy]

Aw. You guys are having a moment.

Get back to your own forum Brent Grimes lover. :D

[Bruce Banner]

Aw. You guys are having a moment.

Beat it Ron Mexico.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

So, um, we're trying to trade Garcia. Fun times!

[Chucky]

So, um, we're trying to trade Garcia. Fun times!

not only that, we are trying to trade him for anything we can get. even better

[Caddy]

not only that, we are trying to trade him for anything we can get. even better

Honestly, it doesn't shock me at all. He is as old as they come and I really can't see him as being much of an option after this season. The thing that scares me more is that Griese will be the starter.

[Captain Fear]

not only that, we are trying to trade him for anything we can get. even better

Where did you read we are trying to trade Garcia? I've heard Gruden say today that their relationship is fine and he just wants him to get healthy.

If we do trade him I will be extremely pissed. I like Garcia a lot as a player. He keeps the play alive and rarely gives up on it. A wonderful contrast from the Brad Johnson days of drop back, get a bad read, and throw it away.

Its not that I think Garcia is the most amazing QB ever, but our backups are just so bad I have no desire to watch them. The only one I have any interest in seeing is Josh Johnson but I can wait till late season tank mode before seeing him make an appearance. The debate between Greise and McCown is a discussion hardly worth having. They both suck, have no potential, and barely get the job done. Who cares? I don't want to see either play.

I just hope the Garcia situation is not as bad as being indicated.

[j05son]

Why did Garcia lose the starting nod?

I know he didn't play well, and coming off that calf injury, but he has to be the best QB there currently to win you games.

Plus it will now cost me my fantasy football season unless Brady Quinn becomes the starter in Cleveland.

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[d34ng3l021]

Why did Garcia lose the starting nod?

I know he didn't play well, and coming off that calf injury, but he has to be the best QB there currently to win you games.

Plus it will now cost me my fantasy football season unless Brady Quinn becomes the starter in Cleveland.

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Jeff Garcia and Brady Quinn were your QBs? Please tell me the rest of your team is stacked beyond belief.

[Caddy]

Why did Garcia lose the starting nod?

I know he didn't play well, and coming off that calf injury, but he has to be the best QB there currently to win you games.

Plus it will now cost me my fantasy football season unless Brady Quinn becomes the starter in Cleveland.

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Well Garcia is a little knocked up at the moment which is probably the main reason he isn't starting this week.

[iloxygenil]

It's an exciting time, I wish when i woke up tomorrow I'd be able to see this game get started, but I'll have to deal with college football for a day leading up to the game, making the sense of anticipation that much greater.

I have this feeling that tells me this game is just going to be a great one. Like, NFL game of the week, win or lose by the dirty birds. I just feel like this is going to be an epic clash that will be not only a great game for this week, but for the recent future.

I know you guys are pretty insane in some spots on the defense, but I feel like you're extremely weak in others. Not that the Falcons don't have a lot of holes, I just feel like the more normal Falcons offense will be on display this week. The ball control run the ball (not for 66 yards at a time) offense, that will wear a defense out. If the Falcons are going to snag one away from the Bucs @ home now is going to be a good time to pull it off.

I'm thinking we'll see a score of something around 17 - 13. A good close game, but one where the offense of the Bucs effectively costs them the game. The Tampa offense even with Garcia isn't something to fear, with him you have to respect it, but without him it's going to be time to attack for the Falcons D. Put 8 in the box, bring the pressure and don't let up. Galloway's speed is always a threat, however, Bob isn't going to be getting anything too deep down the field. So this gives the mediocre Falcons Secondary a big sigh of relief.

The Bucs run game has potential, but I'm less afraid of it than I am of the Lions even. We've all seen Dunn, we know how well he runs against any form of a defense (something New Orleans lacks) Dunn when he gets in space can be a nightmare, but getting the ball in the backfield is a joke for the most part. I know he's not your starter, but even he's unimpressive, I like how strong he runs, and I think that he'll have a decent game, but I don't see him breaking a lot of tackles by this Falcons D that has a new face. Front 7 is solid, secondary is mediocre, so this matchup gives us a chance.

But I feel like this is just going to be an epic game! I can't wait to see what happens.

[Caddy]

The only way I see the Buccaneers losing this game is if Griese throws it away.

[iloxygenil]

I know you don't see it, you're a Bucs fan, I can see you guys winning, but I also see that the Falcons as a team are in a better position than you guys with your injury situation etc. The Bucs are not a good team, not by any stretch, not saying the Falcons are, but the Bucs do have a lot to play for this week, 0-2 in the division would be a bad way to start the season.

Like I said I think it'll be a great game, but I think the Bucs squad, especially offensively is pretty poor. No offensive threat outside of Galloway (who knows if he still has that same speed, he's gotta slow down sometime, but we'll find out at some point this year he'll toast someone I'm sure) Defensively still a very strong team though, at least in a few key positions, but offense is going to be one of the worst in the league.

[Chucky]

I think Matt Ryan is not going to know what hit him. Our Cover-2 is a lot better than Detroit's. I think he will have a very poor game, and that we will bring Phillips into the box to help shut the run game down. I think Ryan will just have some very costly turnovers. I expect at least one lapse by houston on galloway, which should be enough along with a bunch of dinking and dunking on offence to pull off the win.

[Caddy]

I really don't think you give the Buccaneers running game enough credit oxy. The Buccaneers have a nice 1-2 punch in Graham and Dunn who are both running behind an offensive line full of maulers ie Faine, Trueblood, Sears and Joseph (when healthy).

[d34ng3l021]

Yeah. That offensive line creates massive holes.

I seriously cannot wait to see this game. I want to see us against a real opponent.

[Caddy]

Yeah. That offensive line creates massive holes.

I seriously cannot wait to see this game. I want to see us against a real opponent.

As long as last weeks team doesn't show up, you'll get a good match.

[Bruce Banner]

The Bucs are going to pound the rock like no other.

They will win the possession game by 6 minutes or more.

[iloxygenil]

I really don't think you give the Buccaneers running game enough credit oxy. The Buccaneers have a nice 1-2 punch in Graham and Dunn who are both running behind an offensive line full of maulers ie Faine, Trueblood, Sears and Joseph (when healthy).

I know you guys have a solid OL...there's no question about that. But Dunn isn't a punch anymore...he's more like a...hehe little girl slap. Graham I like the way he runs, runs hard, breaks tackles, but the way that the Falcons were tackling last week, and all preseason long, I don't see him breaking many. Falcons may not have the most exotic scheme, but that's not the point, it's the fact that they just don't give up extra yards. CBs don't give up YAC, LBs, DL no one gives up extra yards, and I think that'll be the difference.

Tampa played one of the bottom tier defenses in the league last week, couldn't muster much even with Garcia. I know you guys pretty much got hosed towards the end, but even then, it's not like your offense was on much of a pace. Saints DEs don't rival Abe at all in the pass rush, everyone is all over Will Smith's jock, but I'd take Abe over him in every situation. Babs didn't have a good game week 1 against Detroit, but I don't expect him to struggle like that very often. He's a penetrating DT, that will command your elite Guard to focus on him, so basically, ends up leaving Jamaal on an island with a massive tackle. This is going to be the biggest matchup to watch imo.

Can Jamaal get there .1 second faster and get a sack from Abe or not. Can he consistently play like he did in the 4th game of preseason and week 1 against Detroit. If he can beat up on Trueblood then it's going to be a LONG day. The thing about the run is, you can't run up the middle with Grady on the field and Lofton behind him, you can't run to the strong side with Brooking and Milloy and Anderson there, and if you try to bounce left, well...then you have to deal with Boley and Abe (plus Coleman is solid in run support) So running up the middle is your only hope of keeping the chains moving consistently, and it's going to have to be when Grady is off the field.

I'm excited to see how this game pans out. As far as Tampa's offense I think it's pretty bad overall, I like Graham, and your offensive line makes your team better (I firmly believe the game is won in the trenches) but can they overcome the injury to one of your top OL who likely won't play, but part of me hopes he does on that weak leg making push that much easier to get. But yeah, after watching the game again on DVR, I don't think that Houston was nearly as bad as he was made out to be by Falcon fans, the one PI was total horse manure and the other one was CJ coming into Houston, had Houston turned his head he'd have had a pick (but we all know he doesn't like to turn his head around)

Tomorrow can't get here fast enough...

Anyone up for the sig bet?

As far as ToP goes, the Falcons lost that battle last week too, so, meh. I don't want our defense out there that much, but we'll see...6 min margin isn't going to happen, your offense can't dictate what's going on that well.

[Caddy]

Buccaneers:

Gaines Adams/Greg White: With Sam Baker lining up at left tackle Gaines Adams really needs to show him what the NFL is all about. I expect a lot of pressure to come from the right side of the defensive line (Jovan Haye included) with Adams and White regularly rotating to give Baker a lot to think about. I want at the very least one sack from this combination, multiple sacks would be great.

Tanard Jackson: With Barber, Buchanon and Talib doing a solid job covering the falcons 1,2 and 3 receiver, it will be up to Tanard Jackson to make some splash plays and constantly be around the ball. Big hits or an interception would be great. Jackson is an up and coming star at the FS position and will give Matt Ryan something extra to think about.

Barrett Ruud: The Buccaneers have a pretty decent run defense, but the Falcons certainly showed everyone how much they like to run the ball last week against the Lions (who are rubbish might I add). Any time Turner/Norwood make it past the front four, it is Ruud's job to make sure they don't get any further. Particularly up the middle of the field.

Joey Galloway: He was solid last week, but didn't have the separation we are used to week in week out. Coming up against Grimes/Houston should give Galloway a solid opportunity to break a big one. If he comes away with the same 10 YPR average then he hasn't shown up.

Falcons:

Matt Ryan: I don't think it is any secret that the Buccaneers will be forcing Matt Ryan to win the game rather than Turner/Norwood. I expect Barber/Buchanon to improve on last weeks effort and make Matt Ryan actually think about who he wants to throw to unlike last weeks effort by the Lions. If he doesn't have any turnovers it will be a good game for him, but he could easily crash and burn.

John Abraham: John Abraham is a great pass rusher and everyone knows it. Sure he gets shaken up at times, but when he is on the field, he is tough to contain. Donald Penn really needs to step up his game this week otherwise Brian Griese is going to be in a hell of a lot of trouble.

Offensive Line: With Gaines Adams, Greg White and Jovan Haye all being quality pass rushers at their respective position, the falcons offensive line really needs to contain this three-headed pass rush. If they don't, their rookie QB is going to struggle.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Talib! Gilmore! 7 Points!

[Caddy]

Talib! Gilmore! 7 Points!

Can't complain about the start. Perfect.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Can't complain about the start. Perfect.

I love the pressure we're creating.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Penalties make me sad. What the hell Adams/Barber?

[Chucky]

We cant have those penalties on 3rd down.

[Beans]

god i hate not being able to watch the game

[Chucky]

Great 3rd down conversion. Hilliard is just that guy

[Caddy]

Great 3rd down conversion. Hilliard is just that guy

Ike Hilliard is clutch.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Great 3rd down conversion. Hilliard is just that guy

Falcons front 4 is shutting down our run.

[Chucky]

Our O-line is getting manhandled in the running game

[Chucky]

We got to get the ball in Galloways hands

[Beans]

god i hate not being able to watch the game

hint, hint.

[Chucky]

Hilliard :)

[Chucky]

Hilliard is ridiculous

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Hilliard is ridiculous

Griese looking good too.

[Chucky]

We gotta get the ball to galloway

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Freaking Holding.

[Chucky]

Zuttah C'mon. 6 penalties already

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Warrick Dunn has no age.

[Chucky]

That was awesome.

[Caddy]

God these penalties are a pain in the ass. But we are 6/7 on 3rd down which is great.

[Bosanac01]

yes, go Tampa!

[Chucky]

Saaaaaaabbbbbbbbbbbyyyyyyyy

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Sabby Piscatelli!!!!!!!!

[Caddy]

!!Sabby Piscitelli!!Q@!@!@!@!@!@!1111

[Bosanac01]

yeaaa sabbby!1

[Caddy]

yeaaa sabbby!1

Hey. Stop infringing on our deeply personal joke. :D

[Beans]

sabby 'the man' piscitelli

[Bosanac01]

yay matttyyyy! for making it easy.

[Chucky]

!!Sabby Piscitelli!!Q@!@!@!@!@!@!1111

Where is etk :)

[Caddy]

Where is etk :)

I bet wherever he is he has a stupid grin on his face.

[Chucky]

That was a pretty ugly throw

[Bosanac01]

Sabby is an idiot for trying that.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

I hate you so much Sabby.

[Chucky]

That definately was forward

[Chucky]

What a ******* idiot

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Did they say two penalties on the Bucs offset? hahahahaha

[Bosanac01]

good call.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

I'm so glad we signed Graham.

[Chucky]

Damnit. That would have been huge. Sabby with a nice play though

[Chucky]

Ryan just got JACKED UP

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Ryan just got JACKED UP

Gaines is good like that.

[Bosanac01]

Good Game tampa.

[zCaddyz]

Things i saw in this game

-I belive in ernest graham, hes really good
-Matt ryan looks like he could be go in the future
-Sabby is the man and will take over next year
-Ike im gonna get his jersey that says Mr. 3rd down
-Gaines Adams is a beast off the left side
-We need a Qb

[Caddy]

Things i saw in this game

-I belive in ernest graham, hes really good
-Matt ryan looks like he could be go in the future
-Sabby is the man and will take over next year
-Ike im gonna get his jersey that says Mr. 3rd down
-Gaines Adams is a beast off the left side
-We need a Qb

The first one is true. Earnest Graham has come from nowhere and has really solidified himself as a quality NFL starter. Props do need to be given to Warrick Dunn though. 2 15+ yard runs really helped us out.

I'm not sure about the Sabby comment though. He is promising, but I'm just not sure I see him taking over. I would certainly like to see him become better than Jermaine Phillips, but that might be too optimistic.

As far as the QB situation.... Anyone got Jake Plummers number?

[Tampa 2 4 life]

The first one is true. Earnest Graham has come from nowhere and has really solidified himself as a quality NFL starter. Props do need to be given to Warrick Dunn though. 2 15+ yard runs really helped us out.

I'm not sure about the Sabby comment though. He is promising, but I'm just not sure I see him taking over. I would certainly like to see him become better than Jermaine Phillips, but that might be too optimistic.

As far as the QB situation.... Anyone got Jake Plummers number?

We still have Mccown and JJ to try!

[d34ng3l021]

You guy got lucky. In a couple years when Ryan becomes an All-Pro, you guys will be sorry.

Ill comment on the game after I watch it.

[Caddy]

You guy got lucky. In a couple years when Ryan becomes an All-Pro, you guys will be sorry.

Ill comment on the game after I watch it.

Our defense completely outplayed your offense. It was not luck.

[d34ng3l021]

Our defense completely outplayed your offense. It was not luck.

You are right. It wasnt luck. It was sarcasm. ;)

[Caddy]

You are right. It wasnt luck. It was sarcasm. ;)

And the part about Ryan being an all-pro?

[Bosanac01]

And the part about Ryan being an all-pro?

He will be an all-pro. Matt Ryan has the right mindset, he will succeed in this league because of that. He will look much better next time we meet, so watch out for him.

[d34ng3l021]

And the part about Ryan being an all-pro?

That stuff was legit. You know it man.

[Bruce Banner]

My god the Falcons blow.

[d34ng3l021]

My god the Falcons blow.

Yeah. Being down 17-9 in the 4th quarter = Bucs EASILY WAY superior team. If Mularkey knew how to play call in the red zone, this game would have gone differently.

[Bosanac01]

We had big redzone problems before Mularkey came to atlanta, there was a few plays they went with the run and it didnt work. I guess M&M had no confidence in the run.

[Caddy]

Yeah. Being down 17-9 in the 4th quarter = Bucs EASILY WAY superior team. If Mularkey knew how to play call in the red zone, this game would have gone differently.

I hate the whole 'if' argument. If Tampa Bay had an offense we would have posted more than 24 points. See what I mean? It's an irrelevant concept.

[d34ng3l021]

I hate the whole 'if' argument. If Tampa Bay had an offense we would have posted more than 24 points. See what I mean? It's an irrelevant concept.

If redzone playcalling was better is more of a possibility.

I just dont know how a Bucs fan can say that the Falcons blow when the Falcons came within one score in the 4th quarter after being down 17-0 and the rookie QB starting 0/9 and 2 interceptions.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

If redzone playcalling was better is more of a possibility.

I just dont know how a Bucs fan can say that the Falcons blow when the Falcons came within one score in the 4th quarter after being down 17-0 and the rookie QB starting 0/9 and 2 interceptions.

Because the Bucs blow.

[d34ng3l021]

Because the Bucs blow.


Hmm. Touche.

[Bruce Banner]

Because the Bucs blow.

Someone gets it.

[j05son]

Jeff Garcia and Brady Quinn were your QBs? Please tell me the rest of your team is stacked beyond belief.

It's a 20 team league. I went RB heavy and have 3 starting NFL RB's and have the ability to start all 3.

Any news on Garcia, is he going to be under center in the near future at all.

=[

[Caddy]

It's a 20 team league. I went RB heavy and have 3 starting NFL RB's and have the ability to start all 3.

Any news on Garcia, is he going to be under center in the near future at all.

=[

I advise a trade.

[j05son]

I advise a trade.

I've been trying, but all I get is offers like, Kyle Orton for Jamal Lewis.

[Chucky]

Earnest needs the ball more

[Chucky]

Barret Ruud is awesome

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Barret Ruud is awesome

Barret Ruud is amazing

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Gaines is so awesome.

[Chucky]

Gaines is so awesome.

Gaines is amazing

[zCaddyz]

Ruud and gaines made some big plays today there gonna be stars. Omg they just scored, also we need to look at wr's and qb's in the draft

[Chucky]

Griese ******* Sucks.

[Beans]

brian

f***ing

griese

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Bucs need a QB? SHOCKING.

[dbtb135]

If I said it once, I said it a thousand times. This is the same Brian Griese as 2005. People wanted to just forget his Bears run, or the 05 season, and say he was the same guy as 2004 Griese. Or that he was an "improved, game-manager" because of the pre-season. No, this is the same bone-headed decision maker. Pick 6 Brian will be back soon if we don't take him out.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Griese actually looking good in the clutch.

[Beans]

and just as you say that....

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Can someone catch the **** ball?

[Chucky]

wow, I can not believe we pulled that one out

[zCaddyz]

god griese sucks, but is good when where in the hurry up anyways i dont not want to see him EVER on the field again.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Did we...Did they...Did Byant...Did Griese...?

How do we have a winning record?

[Canadian_kid16]

67 passes for Griese?

how in Gods name did we win?

[Caddy]

I'm just shocked Griese didn't throw a pick in OT to cost us the game.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

I'm just shocked Griese didn't throw a pick in OT to cost us the game.

How the hell was Bryant open?

Why did Gruden call 67 pass plays?

[Caddy]

The best thing about the win is that we are back on top of the South. :)

[Watchman]

How the hell was Bryant open?

Why did Gruden call 67 pass plays?

Because the Bears were basically putting 9 defenders in the box on every play. Come hell or high water the Bears were determinded that Bucs weren't going to run the ball, and they couldn't. Now, usually that means the Bucs abandon the run, throw the ball too much, the o-line can't protect the QB, the QB eventually throws a pass under pressure that is intercepted, or is sacked and fumbles - thus ending any comeback bid by the Bucs.

What we, as Buc fans, are having a hard time grasping (myself included) is how in the hell did the Bucs pass the ball 67 times with the QB rarely being pressured at all? That's not the Bucs we know and love.

[Caddy]

Because the Bears were basically putting 9 defenders in the box on every play. Come hell or high water the Bears were determinded that Bucs weren't going to run the ball, and they couldn't. Now, usually that means the Bucs abandon the run, throw the ball too much, the o-line can't protect the QB, the QB eventually throws a pass under pressure that is intercepted, or is sacked and fumbles - thus ending any comeback bid by the Bucs.

What we, as Buc fans, are having a hard time grasping (myself included) is how in the hell did the Bucs pass the ball 67 times with the QB rarely being pressured at all? That's not the Bucs we know and love.

It's not the Buccaneers we know and love, but I sure could get used to it. It's really an incredible feat that Griese essentially dropped back 67 times and was not sacked once.

[Captain Fear]

It's not the Buccaneers we know and love, but I sure could get used to it. It's really an incredible feat that Griese essentially dropped back 67 times and was not sacked once.

Remembering Gruden's Oakland team, Gannon could drop back, have all day, then make an easy pass. That teams success was predicated on having a great pass blocking oline. After seeing Greise's performance vs the Bears, I'm beginning to believe that maybe Gannon was not all that special. With the right protection any QB can look good and visa versa. Our young and ever improving oline is making me very optimistic with our teams future.

[Watchman]

Remembering Gruden's Oakland team, Gannon could drop back, have all day, then make an easy pass. That teams success was predicated on having a great pass blocking oline. After seeing Greise's performance vs the Bears, I'm beginning to believe that maybe Gannon was not all that special. With the right protection any QB can look good and visa versa. Our young and ever improving oline is making me very optimistic with our teams future.

I think while with the Raiders Gannon was above all else a smart QB. He knew the system and you are right had the time to make plays. Greise knows the system, and on Sunday had time to make plays, but he wasn't very smart (3 INTs/many overthrown balls).

Imagine the Bears game if Greise only threw 1 INT.

I think we have enough weapons, not on par with what the Raiders had with Gannon, but sufficient. However, I'm not sure why Stovall should ever see another snap on offense for the Bucs. He's an absolute beast as a STer, but he has no value as a WR.

[Caddy]

I think while with the Raiders Gannon was above all else a smart QB. He knew the system and you are right had the time to make plays. Greise knows the system, and on Sunday had time to make plays, but he wasn't very smart (3 INTs/many overthrown balls).

Imagine the Bears game if Greise only threw 1 INT.

I think we have enough weapons, not on par with what the Raiders had with Gannon, but sufficient. However, I'm not sure why Stovall sure ever see another snap on offense for the Bucs. He's an absolute beast as a STer, but he has no value as a WR.

Man the Buccaneers need to stop drafting receivers who are great at relatively irrelevant skills ie Stovall and ST/gunning and Clayton at blocking.

[Caddy]

Anyone fancy our chances against the Pack?

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Anyone fancy our chances against the Pack?

I actually do, their secondary is beat up and we can do something with that.

[zCaddyz]

i wanna see talib vs nelson matchup lol, but i think its gonna be a close game we should win if we can pound the rock and get some pressure rogers.

[etk]

Talib vs Nelson....LMFAO! All the threads and discussion go into one matchup.

I don't wanna see him get toasted again though...

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Talib vs Nelson....LMFAO! All the threads and discussion go into one matchup.

I don't wanna see him get toasted again though...

I wanna see Brian Griese stiff arm Kampman.

[GB12]

I actually do, their secondary is beat up and we can do something with that.
With Galloway out there is nothing in your passing game that should be a problem for us even with our injuries.

[etk]

With Galloway out there is nothing in your passing game that should be a problem for us even with our injuries.

If you mean deep threat...then sure. I personally don't think injuries will make much of a difference for your secondary, but that's only because we can dink and dunk anyone.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

If you mean deep threat...then sure. I personally don't think injuries will make much of a difference for your secondary, but that's only because we can dink and dunk anyone.

Clyton actually looked passable last week! I think our O will be good.

Sidenote: Dexter Jackson = Bust

[etk]

I don't know where we got the idea he could return kicks....ugh. Percy Harvin or Brandon Tate would be nice.

[Caddy]

I don't know where we got the idea he could return kicks....ugh. Percy Harvin or Brandon Tate would be nice.

If he falls over one more time...

[Bruce Banner]

Dexter will be fine.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

If he falls over one more time...

If I see Clayton returning kicks again.....

[Caddy]

I'm pretty happy with the effort so far by the Bucs. DB = Amazing; still.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

I'm pretty happy with the effort so far by the Bucs. DB = Amazing; still.

Ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuud.

[Caddy]

Ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuud.

It's great to know that when DB hangs up the boots, we still have a stud at LB who can make plays.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

It's great to know that when DB hangs up the boots, we still have a stud at LB who can make plays.

I'm excited Clayton actually caught a pass.

[Caddy]

I'm excited Clayton actually caught a pass.

And had some nice YAC too.

[Caddy]

Half-Time Notes


Ruuuuuuuuuuud. Does anything more need to be said? An Int and a sack in the first half. A great leader for the defense.
The D-Line is getting some nice pressure on Aaron Rodgers. Jimmy Wilkerson made Chad Clifton his *****.
Derrick Brooks = GOAT. 1 interception and almost another two. He still has it in him.
Michael Clayton is catching balls and making plays after the catch. :eek:
Ike Hilliard is his dependable self making clutch catches.
Warrick Dunn is a great compliment to Graham. He is super shifty and is really impressing me.
D-Jax returns a kickoff more than 30 yards. :eek:
10 points from 2 turnovers has been great.
Matt Bryant is an incredibly brave SOB.

[Caddy]

Throwing a pick blows, but I love our tough, aggressive offensive line.

[Bruce Banner]

Dexter must have been sat down and scolded for his falling down. He is fearless now.

[Caddy]

I'm glad we are winning and everything, but if Griese would stop throwing picks everything would be going so much better.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

I'm glad we are winning and everything, but if Griese would stop throwing picks everything would be going so much better.

You suck so much Griese.

[Caddy]

Exactly what I've been telling everybody about. Griese is incredibly prone to costly errors. It is in his nature. Finish the game with McCown; at least he won't throw picks like that.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Exactly what I've been telling everybody about. Griese is incredibly prone to costly errors. It is in his nature. Finish the game with McCown; at least he won't throw picks like that.

At this rate we'll be starting Johnson Week 10.

[Beans]

Griese

God Damn It

edit: this should be all caps

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Alex Smith was such a good pick.

[Caddy]

At this rate we'll be starting Johnson Week 10.

If we didn't keep giving up turnovers we wouldn't put ourselves in dumb situations like this week. The first pick was not Grieses fault, but the other two have cost us dearly. He frustrates me so much. If he could just make better decisions we wouldn't have to worry about 4th quarter come backs.

[Chucky]

Griese has 6 INT's in the last two games. Why is he still i nthere

[Chucky]

Yay. 3-1. our defence is just awesome

[Beans]

i need a ruud jersey so bad

[Caddy]

Besides the obvious MotM nominees Derrick Brooks, Barrett Ruud, Jermaine Phillips, Gaines Adams etc; I'd have to give the game ball to both Matt Bryant and Dexter Jackson.

Matt Bryant just playing showed incredible bravery and being 3/3 on FG attempts really won us the game. He is an inspiration. The fact that he was even in Tampa is a testament to the type of player and man Matt Bryant is.

Dexter Jackson had at least 3 incredibly important kick/punt returns which really put us in a position to win and score points. Particularly the 20 yard punt return in the 4th quarter setting up the game winning field goal.

[Beans]

yeah DJ stepped it up today

[zCaddyz]

Such a good game today

Dexter-Didnt trip and starting to look good
Ruuuuuuuuuuud-See yah in pro-bowl
O-line-ZERO sacks in the last two games wow
Gaines-I love him such a beast
Brooks-Is still brooks the F***ing man!

[Caddy]

Super Duper LOL at Ryan Grants 15 carries for 20 yards. The Packers only managed 28 yards on the ground the whole game.

[Watchman]

It is encouraging that the Bucs can play badly (QB) and still pull out the win. I'm hopeful that they can put a solid game together (QB) against Denver.

All in all the Bucs are doing much better than I expected so far. Only real gripe is to cut down on the turnovers (ints) and giving up the big plays.

[zCaddyz]

We played a good game, and i hate trueblood that is all.

[Chucky]

Our offensive line was very disappointing. WE had some brutal penalties especially that stupid one on Faine.

Garcia should be starting next week no matter what.

We did not run the ball enough. Gruden has got to stick to the ground game.

Our defence played well, but in order to win we need many more big plays from them

[etk]

OMGOMGOMGOMG

Trueblood, Griese and Dexter Jackson are all so bad.....uhhhh for god's sakes.

It's hard to watch Jackson return kicks and punts....it's very hard. Now Gruden's made 2 mistakes: 1 by drafting him and 1 by playing him.

I don't understand why Garcia can be "ready" to be a backup but not start....if he played the whole game....we're 4-1 woohoo.

How many times does our defense have to bail us out of close games or keep us in games we should get blown out of before Gruden gets fired for running a horrible offense? I don't even wanna look at the statistics since he's been here, and I don't wanna think about what our record would be since 02 if our defense was as crappy as our offense.

[Watchman]

Crap game, wasn't even entertaining. Seems like the difference came down to the 3 sacks and penalties.

[etk]

What's entertaining about your quarterback completing 3 yard passes on 3rd and 7? The stats look nice and then you wonder why we only scored 13......

[d34ng3l021]

I cant wait to play you guys in the Dome.

[Caddy]

I cant wait to play you guys in the Dome.

Don't get your hopes up.

[d34ng3l021]

Don't get your hopes up.

It should be a good game regardless of who wins (though I do expect us to win). If we could hold on with you guys until the 4th Q at TB after throwing 2 picks in the first half, I think we have a shot at beating you at home.

[Caddy]

I guess we know why Gaines Adams never considered being a receiver.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

I guess we know why Gaines Adams never considered being a receiver.

I guess we know why we drafted Geno Hayes.

[Caddy]

I guess we know why we drafted Geno Hayes.

Hellz yeah we do.

[Caddy]

Dexter Dexter Dexter...

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Dexter Dexter Dexter...

What the **** was that?


Alex Smith is the most underrated player in our Offense.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

We need a QB so bad.

[Caddy]

What the **** was that?


Alex Smith is the most underrated player in our Offense.

The return was just vomit and Smith made a lovely catch.

We need a QB so bad.

I concur, but Jeff Garcia is really pleasing me at the moment.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

I love you Tanard.

[Caddy]

I love you Tanard.

I love him more!

[Caddy]

Alex Smith making plays today!

[Tampa 2 4 life]

I effing love you Alex Smith.

[Caddy]

Crap. I hope Byron is ok.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

I thought the ball was down, but I don't mind a free turnover.

[Caddy]

Great recovery by the defense there. A FG is a good result.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Michael Clayton just runs routes better than he has the last few years.

[Caddy]

The offense just looks so much better when it is being run by Garcia.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

What a great tip by Talib.

[Caddy]

What a great tip by Talib.

You've got that right.

[Caddy]

Alex Smith has been money today.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

God dammit Sabby.

Edit: Nevermind, YAYYYYY SABBY.

[Caddy]

God dammit Sabby.

Edit: Nevermind, YAYYYYY SABBY.

That's just the type of player Sabby is. He plays with your heart strings.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Earnest Graham with the clincher.

[Caddy]

Anyone else liking the Bucs chances in the NFC this year?

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Anyone else liking the Bucs chances in the NFC this year?

If our D stays healthy, then yes.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Tanard Jackson just cleaned your clock.

[Caddy]

Anyone know what the situation is with Caddy? If he is good to go we could be looking at a dynamic three-headed monster.

[Chucky]

This game is why I love Earnest Graham so much. Goes in at FB no problem and lays down some awesome blocks for Dunn. I was happy to see Gruden reward him with that TD. He earned it

[ShutDwn]

Good game for you guys. I have always thought it is harder to beat a good team after they have lost. I give the defense credit, them, plus Jake having one of his guaranteed terrible games equals trouble.

I don't think we play again till week 17, I don't know if there will be something left to play for, for one of us but we will see.

I thought our defense played admirably considering they had no help at all, they never gave up in my opinion.

Good luck the rest of the way

[Chucky]

I gotta add Aqib Talib to my sig :) . I will cry when Raheem Morris gets a DC job somewhere next year.

[zCaddyz]

God i hope not i would not be mad if kiffin retire so raheem can take over the dc spot. Also good game bucs good too see us stomp on panthers, zutta looks like another good later round pick for us sad i cant say the same bout jackson

[Bruce Banner]

Raheem for incumbent DC.

[etk]

Awesome win. Exactly the kind of performance I expect from our offense more regularly....and with Jeff playing sharp I don't think it's a fluke.

Thanks Carolina for not throwing to Steve Smith 30 times that game. Keep givin' it to Muhammad and those mediocre tight ends!

Dexter Jackson comment of the week: Not sure if he returns punts like a chicken with his head cut off or an 8-year old girl. Please let him go now and bring back Spurlock or someone below-average at least.

We need an interior pass rush.

If Raheem Morris is the god that Bucs fans make him out to be....can he please keep Ronde from sucking so much in coverage?

[zCaddyz]

lol yeah every game it seems like he falls down, its like when a old person falls its funny at first then when you think about it its just sad. But talib looks good and the football must like him too cuz its always thrown to him and adams lol

[Caddy]

lol yeah every game it seems like he falls down, its like when a old person falls its funny at first then when you think about it its just sad. But talib looks good and the football must like him too cuz its always thrown to him and adams lol

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[etk]

lol yeah every game it seems like he falls down, its like when a old person falls its funny at first then when you think about it its just sad. But talib looks good and the football must like him too cuz its always thrown to him and adams lol

lol.

Except I haven't found it funny once....in fact I cringe every time he touches the ball, let alone falls flat on his face. It would be funny if it was Rich Eisen returning the kicks, not our recent 2nd round pick.

If you wanna see something funny, watch a Bucs game with me and see my face when Jackson gets a negative return.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

lol.

Except I haven't found it funny once....in fact I cringe every time he touches the ball, let alone falls flat on his face. It would be funny if it was Rich Eisen returning the kicks, not our recent 2nd round pick.

If you wanna see something funny, watch a Bucs game with me and see my face when Jackson gets a negative return.

It's like watching Classic Dante Hall without the Vision or the Talent.

[etk]

lol....

His vision's not bad....he just can't move laterally. He's not quick and he's not agile. He's just straight-line 40 yard dash fast. So.....that's how he should ******* return the ball. Catch it and run straight like when he scored the TD in the preseason. He tries to make plays running sideways and gets caught by 260 lb backup linebackers....it's pathetic.

[Chucky]

I think we should try letting Aqib return some kicks. He showed off some moves after his INT against Carolina.

[Caddy]

I think we should try letting Aqib return some kicks. He showed off some moves after his INT against Carolina.

Haha that is true. I was surprised at how agile he looked with the ball in his hands.

[Bruce Banner]

I wasn't. Aqib is a true talent with the ball in his hands. Hence him playing wideout at times at Kansas.

[Caddy]

Matt McCoy out, Brian Clark in. I for one am excited about this because Matt McCoy was absolute garbage.

[etk]

I think we should try letting Aqib return some kicks. He showed off some moves after his INT against Carolina.

O RLY? (directed to Bucs coaches)

Talib isn't explosive enough for KOR, but I like him on punt return because he's slippery.

Dexter can return kicks fine for us, he just has to run straight and hopefully we spring him with some blocks.

We also have Bennett and Buchanon who could return as well. Hell Luke McCown might be a better returner than Jackson.

Matt McCoy out, Brian Clark in. I for one am excited about this because Matt McCoy was absolute garbage.

Exactly, he sucks. Way too small for this league. I love how PFT tried to spin this like another example of a team cutting a mediocre player because of an arrest while the good players keep their jobs. McCoy was probably a goner sooner rather than later, and no one needs a turd/pylon combo on their roster.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

I expect one of you to tell me what happened tonight because I'll be too busy getting playoff success being taken away from me by another damn Northeast team by my other damn favorite team.

[etk]

This ******** kid (actually) at my school who's a Rays fan said they would lose the series when it was 3-1....he always makes weird random sports predictions and they're always right.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

This ******** kid (actually) at my school who's a Rays fan said they would lose the series when it was 3-1....he always makes weird random sports predictions and they're always right.

That was very mean of him.

[etk]

I see NFLDC censored a new word....I guess the mods got tired of giving out personal attack infractions.