T.I. Paper Trail

[Bruce]

I figured since Tha Carter 3 got it's own thread and seeing as how I got an advanced copy and this CD is like 10 times better than Tha Carter (JMHO) I figured I'd start a thread on it. BTW of all the 16 songs the best song is (again, JMHO) Swagger Like Us Feat. Kanye West, Jay-Z, and Lil Wayne.

Also it drops Sept. 30th.

[Cunningham]

i thought he was still in prison on a weapons charge or something?

[Bruce]

i thought he was still in prison on a weapons charge or something?
Nope he's out. I think he was 106 & Park a few days ago.

[kwilk103]

i dont think hes gone to prison yet

[islandboy843]

WTF

This doesn't deserve its own thread.

Can someone lock this *****?

[Rob S]

T.I. should never get his own thread. Maybe you got him confused with someone that has the reverse initials that does?

[Bruce]

Why the hate? Paper Trail is significantly better than Tha Carter 3.

[ccB]

T.I. > Lil Wayne. My favorite rapper from the south. In reality the Carter 3 didn't deserve its own thread either but I understand your logic behind making this its own thread.

[Vikes99ej]

Nope, this CD still isn't good enough to have it's own thread.

[CC.SD]

Definitely better than a T.P. Paper trail.

[MetSox17]

Ludacris > TI

[awfullyquiet]

T.I. vs. T.I.P. was legit.

[sweetness34]

The Recession > Paper Trail

[Bruce]

Ludacris > TI

A bag of potato chips>Ludacris

[awfullyquiet]

That makes for a very interesting logic chain.

[Bruce]

Luda hasn't put out decent **** since Word of Mouf.

[bearfan]

I have only listened to some of it, and seems pretty good. I dont know if it can ever match TI vs TIP though, that CD was loaded with a bunch of good songs. King was also really good, so Ill have to go through this a few times

[neko4]

I figured since Tha Carter 3 got it's own thread and seeing as how I got an advanced copy and this CD is like 10 times better than Tha Carter (JMHO) I figured I'd start a thread on it. BTW of all the 16 songs the best song is (again, JMHO) Swagger Like Us Feat. Kanye West, Jay-Z, and Lil Wayne.

Also it drops Sept. 30th.
I was listening to Swagger like Us this morning for the first time
Pretty good

[bantx]

The Recession > Paper Trail

is the recession any good thinking about giving it a listen and ill def be "getting" paper trail if u know waht i mean

[sweetness34]

is the recession any good thinking about giving it a listen and ill def be "getting" paper trail if u know waht i mean

Well Jeezy is my favorite rapper currently out right now (if Eminem makes his supposed comeback it'll change though). So maybe I'm biased but I like Jeezy because he's raps about the streets, the struggle, and things like that. I'm tired of hearing the dance ******** they call rap. I want to hear about real issues and Jeezy does do that.

I thought his first two were very good but I like this one the most. Raps a lot about politics (especially Obama), talks about the economy, and things like that.

The songs I recommend off the album are;

Put On (I'm sure most of you have heard it by now)
My President (best song of the CD, period, epic)
Everything
Taken' It There
Crazy World
Get Allot
By the Way
Vacation
Amazin'
Welcome Back

Not saying that the other ones aren't good but I like those. My 5 favorites are Put On, My President, Everything, Amazin, and By the Way.

[bantx]

Well Jeezy is my favorite rapper currently out right now (if Eminem makes his supposed comeback it'll change though). So maybe I'm biased but I like Jeezy because he's raps about the streets, the struggle, and things like that. I'm tired of hearing the dance ******** they call rap. I want to hear about real issues and Jeezy does do that.

I thought his first two were very good but I like this one the most. Raps a lot about politics (especially Obama), talks about the economy, and things like that.

The songs I recommend off the album are;

Put On (I'm sure most of you have heard it by now)
My President (best song of the CD, period, epic)
Everything
Taken' It There
Crazy World
Get Allot
By the Way
Vacation
Amazin'
Welcome Back

Not saying that the other ones aren't good but I like those. My 5 favorites are Put On, My President, Everything, Amazin, and By the Way.

yeah i heard My President, and its one of my favorite songs from him. Ill probably give it a listen soon

[kwilk103]

dr. dre and eminem coming out end 08/early 09

[Bruce Banner]

dr. dre and eminem coming out end 08/early 09

I don't even care about Detox anymore.

Dre dropped the ball on that one.

[bearfan]

You like an artist that talks about real life...look no further than Flobots

[Hines]

You like an artist that talks about real life...look no further than Flobots

Dont forget about Lupe. Sad that he might be retiring after LupEND.

[MetSox17]

I don't even care about Detox anymore.

Dre dropped the ball on that one.

I've been waiting for about five years for the Detox album...

[Bruce Banner]

Dont forget about Lupe. Sad that he might be retiring after LupEND.

Well, if he goes out with a bang there will be a few positives for Lupe. (In regards to his legacy and his potential)

Could he have been the best? etc etc.

[skinzzfan25]

Dont forget about Lupe. Sad that he might be retiring after LupEND.

I remember reading that he said he would still do work with the rumored Lupe/Pharrell/Kanye collabo.

If there's any truth to that, it should be amazing.

And Detox is a rumor, it will never come out :(

[Hines]

Well, if he goes out with a bang there will be a few positives for Lupe. (In regards to his legacy and his potential)

Could he have been the best? etc etc.

I think all the talk of him retiring is ********. I think he makes more albums. He is like 26, still got many, many years in the game.

Also, Plies is a up and coming rapper. Yeah he gets too much on the sex talk, but he talks about the streets a lot. Putting out 3 albums in almost 18 months is a nice acomplishment.

[Bruce Banner]

I've been waiting for about five years for the Detox album...

Chronic 2001/2001 was the truth in my opinion. I think a lot of people will disagree with me but if Detox can be close to that it's a success.

[MetSox17]

Chronic 2001/2001 was the truth in my opinion. I think a lot of people will disagree with me but if Detox can be close to that it's a success.

MAN. Don't get me going on Chronic 2001.

Honestly, the best rap album i've EVER had or heard. Hands down.

[Bruce Banner]

"DETOX IS COMING" (as presented by diesel Dre)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI9zHR70KmI

[yourfavestoner]

Well Jeezy is my favorite rapper currently out right now (if Eminem makes his supposed comeback it'll change though). So maybe I'm biased but I like Jeezy because he's raps about the streets, the struggle, and things like that. I'm tired of hearing the dance ******** they call rap. I want to hear about real issues and Jeezy does do that.

I thought his first two were very good but I like this one the most. Raps a lot about politics (especially Obama), talks about the economy, and things like that.

The songs I recommend off the album are;

Put On (I'm sure most of you have heard it by now)
My President (best song of the CD, period, epic)
Everything
Taken' It There
Crazy World
Get Allot
By the Way
Vacation
Amazin'
Welcome Back

Not saying that the other ones aren't good but I like those. My 5 favorites are Put On, My President, Everything, Amazin, and By the Way.

Gucci>Jeezy

[jballa838]

LAX > Every other CD released in '08.

[Bruce Banner]

Liquid Swords.......

[Bruce]

Gucci>JeezyAnd that ain't saying much.

[bantx]

I think all the talk of him retiring is ********. I think he makes more albums. He is like 26, still got many, many years in the game.

Also, Plies is a up and coming rapper. Yeah he gets too much on the sex talk, but he talks about the streets a lot. Putting out 3 albums in almost 18 months is a nice acomplishment.

wtf plies, hes horrible like that one youtube video making fun of him, "i sound like im on a roller coaster" "ahhhhhhh"

[Prince 561]

I don't even care about Detox anymore.

Dre dropped the ball on that one.

Dre is notorious for taking a long time to release albums. I remember Pac used to always rag on him for taking so long in the studio. That was part of the reason for their rift.

[islandboy843]

This has turned into another rap discussion thread.

[hobbes2053]

How has no one mentioned Nas yet?

[ccB]

How has no one mentioned Nas yet?

I think the convo was directed towards Southern Hip Hop.

On the topic of the Jeezy album, Circulate and Amazin are my favorite tracks.

[islandboy843]

If this is abouth south rap.


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[Bruce]

How has no one mentioned Nas yet?Just d/l "Untitled" last night. Going to enjoy it today.

[ShutDwn]

I think all the talk of him retiring is ********. I think he makes more albums. He is like 26, still got many, many years in the game.


I saw him two weeks ago at IU, and he gave us a sample song it was sick. However when he talked about being done after LupEND, I believed him.

He is doing a collab project with Kanye and Pharrell called Child Rebel Soldier. Get a taste of them on the Everyone Nose remix. It is pretty good, I like Kanye's and Pharrell's the best.

He is too damn good to walk away this early in my opinion. I don't think any other hip hop artists runs around as much as he does. He doesn't just strut like most "OG rappers". While I listen to some of their music, I wouldn't pay to see them.

[cunningham06]

My thoughts on Southern rap being from Houston, and living very close to ATL it is practically all everyone plays.

Paper Trail is gonna be a very good album, I haven't heard the entire cd yet, but I have heard many of the tracks on there. T.I. vs. T.I.P. was a very good album, and I expect Paper Trail to be good, but to contain more of a mainstream quality.

Tha Carter 3 was a terrible album. The only good song on it was Let the Beat Build and that's mainly just because of the beat. Honestly he can put together a funny verse and is decently witty, but most of the time his rhymes DON'T rhyme. If you want to listen to rap that is full of one liners and is witty check out Binary Star because they actually put together verses that rhyme. His style is unique though and that is what gets him so much attention.

The Recession is alright. The production for the songs is very similar and it is hard to listen to the album all the way through because of it. While he does rap about current events which I like his wordplay isn't that great, and certainly is not better than T.I.

[kwilk103]

kanye west---808s and Heartbreak, dec 16; mainly singing with autotune, not rapping

[KCJ58]

Lil Wayne didn't deserve his own thread for a CD and neither should Tip Harris

[Tha Wootster]

Dchess is dead! :(

[Prince 561]

My thoughts on Southern rap being from Houston, and living very close to ATL it is practically all everyone plays.

Paper Trail is gonna be a very good album, I haven't heard the entire cd yet, but I have heard many of the tracks on there. T.I. vs. T.I.P. was a very good album, and I expect Paper Trail to be good, but to contain more of a mainstream quality.

Tha Carter 3 was a terrible album. The only good song on it was Let the Beat Build and that's mainly just because of the beat. Honestly he can put together a funny verse and is decently witty, but most of the time his rhymes DON'T rhyme. If you want to listen to rap that is full of one liners and is witty check out Binary Star because they actually put together verses that rhyme. His style is unique though and that is what gets him so much attention.

The Recession is alright. The production for the songs is very similar and it is hard to listen to the album all the way through because of it. While he does rap about current events which I like his wordplay isn't that great, and certainly is not better than T.I.

Since when does rap have to rhyme? Seriously, what rock are you living under?

[MetSox17]

Dre is notorious for taking a long time to release albums. I remember Pac used to always rag on him for taking so long in the studio. That was part of the reason for their rift.

Dre takes long in the studio because everything he makes is gold. If Detox is half as good as Chronic 2001 was, it'll be amazing.

[Prince 561]

Dre takes long in the studio because everything he makes is gold. If Detox is half as good as Chronic 2001 was, it'll be amazing.

No doubt. I love Dre but there is something to say for guys like Weezy and Pac who can finish a full album in a week. You can only listen to 2001 so many times before you get sick of it so it's nice to have a bigger body of work.

[T-RICH49]

Dont forget about Lupe. Sad that he might be retiring after LupEND.

WHAT???NOOOOOOO.Lupe is awesome

[ccB]

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[LTgiants]

i am waiting for Royce to finally release that bar exam 2 its gonna be a ill cd

[skinzzfan25]

I saw him two weeks ago at IU, and he gave us a sample song it was sick. However when he talked about being done after LupEND, I believed him.

He is doing a collab project with Kanye and Pharrell called Child Rebel Soldier. Get a taste of them on the Everyone Nose remix. It is pretty good, I like Kanye's and Pharrell's the best.

He is too damn good to walk away this early in my opinion. I don't think any other hip hop artists runs around as much as he does. He doesn't just strut like most "OG rappers". While I listen to some of their music, I wouldn't pay to see them.

Add 'Us Placers feat Robin Thicke' to that list if you haven't heard it.

It's pretty old off of one of Kanye's mixtapes but it was their first collaboration together.

[giantsfan]

Does this really deserve it's own thread more than say Metallica's Death Magnetic? Which was supposed to drop today but has been leaked in its entirety over the past few days and will IMO be simply a monster hit on par with the black album for the band.

[ccB]

OMFG everyone **** yes yes not thread quality we got it the first time, it doesn't need to be said 100 ******* times. Leave modding up to the mods they will either delete it or it will die in a few days.

[Paul]

kanye west---808s and Heartbreak, dec 16; mainly singing with autotune, not rapping

I'm as tired of Autotune as the next guy, but as much **** Kanye is getting for using it on Love Lockdown, it still sounds amazing. Still can't find the studio version of the song though.

[Bruce Banner]

I'm as tired of Autotune as the next guy, but as much **** Kanye is getting for using it on Love Lockdown, it still sounds amazing. Still can't find the studio version of the song though.

Kanye's blog.

Look down a ways.

[kwilk103]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2jdOJQSNq8

kanye west---stay up

lol

[JF4]

yea budddy

EDIT:not actually written by me.

[sweetness34]

I really didn't like The Carter 3, at all. Some songs were good but the rest of it was garbage.

Listened to LAX and I've gotta say The Game is still very underrated. Doesn't get a lot of pub because he's not very mainstream but I like his wordplay.

My favorite Jeezy album is still The Inspiration. I'm probably in the minority as a lot of people like his original one, and this one has been getting a lot of press but I really like his 2nd one. Jeezy is a mainstream rapper but as far as those guys go he's my favorite. Just personal a personal preference.

Btw, I hope Eminem does really come back and goes back to his roots. None of his pop ********. One of the best lyricists when he ripped it.

[Bruce Banner]

Btw, I hope Eminem does really come back and goes back to his roots. None of his pop ********. One of the best lyricists when he ripped it.

I want Marshall Mathers LP again.

[LonghornsLegend]

I like how everyone came in to say this didn't deserve its own thread like it wouldn't just die down alot faster if it barely got any post anyway lol...Anyway love this album, TI always comes with some fire, but I knew he would go all out on this since he might have to spend some time on lock.


His best album IMHO was trap muzik, still one of my favorite CD's, I even did a Texas version of the CD and screwed and chopped a version since thats how it goes down in Texas :D

http://a330.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/93/l_1381ef493e3a330782f1684c8844df41.jpg


Doubt too many people here even mess with Screwed & Chopped but I usually keep a regular version and Screwed version of every CD I listen too and I have a few programs I just taught myself to use over the years.


But I agree, Paper Trail>Carter 3 but Plies album was better then both of these.

[thule]

Paper Trail was too much hater talk for me. Wordplays weren't anything special for me Carter 3 tore this cd apart. Half of the songs on this cd are about how people should hate on...blah blah blah....I need more out of the lyrics to really enjoy it...on a side note I can't wait till silk scarfs are popular if that happens.

[MetSox17]

I like how everyone came in to say this didn't deserve its own thread like it wouldn't just die down alot faster if it barely got any post anyway lol...Anyway love this album, TI always comes with some fire, but I knew he would go all out on this since he might have to spend some time on lock.


His best album IMHO was trap muzik, still one of my favorite CD's, I even did a Texas version of the CD and screwed and chopped a version since thats how it goes down in Texas :D

http://a330.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/93/l_1381ef493e3a330782f1684c8844df41.jpg


Doubt too many people here even mess with Screwed & Chopped but I usually keep a regular version and Screwed version of every CD I listen too and I have a few programs I just taught myself to use over the years.


But I agree, Paper Trail>Carter 3 but Plies album was better then both of these.

Chamillionaire > Weezy

[bored of education]

Scarface >>>>>>>> you

[kwilk103]

anyone else like this album?

really like on top of the world with ludacris

and dead and gone with timberlake

[YAYareaRB]

I'm gonna buy this CD.. I'm just sitting quietly waiting for LAX to drop. Should be a good one!!!

[yo123]

This album sucks. A lot. Worse than King. And thats saying a lot.

He needs to get back to making rap, not mainstream pop ********. I liked Trap Musik and Urban Legend, but he has failed ever since.

[yourfavestoner]

Way too poppy. T.I. needs to go to hell and let T.I.P come back.
LAX>this ****

[Bills2083]

I'm as tired of Autotune as the next guy, but as much **** Kanye is getting for using it on Love Lockdown, it still sounds amazing. Still can't find the studio version of the song though.


I was looking around on youtube, and it said that this is the stuido version...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3TV9szhgUs
Hopefully this is what you're looking for. http://draftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

[Paul]

I was looking around on youtube, and it said that this is the stuido version...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3TV9szhgUs
Hopefully this is what you're looking for. http://draftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

Yeah I found that version on Kanye's blog earlier, but I still appreciate it.

But this "finish" version still sounds like a demo, it just doesn't sound clean or finished.

[bantx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO9cO9ladXY&feature=related

Wanted to put this in here, one of Jay Z's new song off the Blue Print 3

Like the beat to the song and the song overall.

[jballa838]

His beats are whack and he is trying too hard.
IMO Lil Wayne has put out better mixtapes than T.I.'s new album.

Free, legal site that has all the songs on it.
http://www.imeem.com/smilam

[robert pancake gallery]

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