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BeerBaron
09-13-2008, 02:05 PM
I was having a football debate the other day and it gave me this good idea for a poll.

So, lets say for a second your hired to your first pro head coaching job and your GM comes to you with this list of QB's and asks you to pick the one you want to start off your career with. All of them are guys who are....having issues....at the moment but still have some upside in my mind. Pretend they are all FA's and would get signed for the same amount of money. Also assume that they are all at full health.

Furthermore, your team is selecting very high in the draft and no elite QB's are going to be around worth the pick. Also, anyone worth trading down for is a project player who will need some development time.

So, who would you take to try and start building your team around?

GB12
09-13-2008, 02:09 PM
I'd take Jason Campbell, but I'd draft a new QB and/or sign a different QB as soon as possible with any of those choices.

Mr.Regular
09-13-2008, 02:10 PM
Those are some nasty options... right now Id say Campbell, but Id consider Leinart, Losman, and Young too.... ewwww

BeerBaron
09-13-2008, 02:10 PM
I'd take Jason Campbell, but I'd draft a new QB and/or sign a different QB as soon as possible with any of those choices.

****. meant to say about the no drafting thing......knew i'd forget something

Gribble
09-13-2008, 02:13 PM
Ugh... all those are struggling right now. I'd go with Campbell I guess. He has the most tools.

WMD
09-13-2008, 02:23 PM
Vince Young. Surround him with some talent, that being an actual #1 Receiver and an actual #1 RB.. along with a solid enough OL, and see what happens.

P-L
09-13-2008, 02:25 PM
Give me Jason Campbell.

diabsoule
09-13-2008, 02:27 PM
I went with Jason Campbell but it was a tough decision between him and Alex Smith.

TheBuffaloBills
09-13-2008, 02:27 PM
I would go with Campbell. I am not going to throw him in the bin full of bust just because of 1 game.

Hines
09-13-2008, 02:28 PM
I went with Jason Campbell. I think he has all the tools, except the mental make up. Once he gets that, put him in the right scheme, he will show his first round potential.

wicket
09-13-2008, 02:28 PM
I'd take leinart, the purest passer and I think he would fit the best with my pass-first system based on dominant lines

d34ng3l021
09-13-2008, 02:48 PM
Give me Matt Leinart and a WCO. He has good accuracy and zip on his short medium throws. He reminds me of of Drew Brees without the smartness, little less zip on the ball, and has yet to develop a big arm.

BRAVEHEART
09-13-2008, 02:50 PM
Give me Leinart with a good O-line.

PoopSandwich
09-13-2008, 02:51 PM
I'd pick Leinart but thats because of Young's issues and I don't have faith in Campbell... Not very confident in Leinart though haha.

princefielder28
09-13-2008, 02:53 PM
Jason Campbell, easy choice. Vince Young second and then Leinart

RaiderNation
09-13-2008, 02:56 PM
I said Young. If he gets some good WR's around him I think Young could become a good QB.

Jvig43
09-13-2008, 02:57 PM
Campbell then Young. Id like to see what Vince could do with a #1 WR and Id say Campbell is the best choice out of that list from what i've seen right now. I remeber watching the the giants game saying, wow Washington's offense is really killing themselves, too many penalties.

Matthew Jones
09-13-2008, 03:03 PM
I went with Vince.

KCJ58
09-13-2008, 03:12 PM
Matt Leinart, i would have picked Drew Stanton if he was on the list

Bengalsrocket
09-13-2008, 03:22 PM
I chose Jason Campbell as well. After submitting my poll answer I thought I'd be alone on that one though =X.

BeerBaron
09-13-2008, 03:22 PM
I figured I'd get a bunch of people voting on VY for this and calling me nuts for even having him in the same category as these other guys....

pleasantly surprised that was not the case, lol

bantx
09-13-2008, 03:52 PM
I still have faith in vince young!

Bruce
09-13-2008, 04:05 PM
I liked Orton out of college. I thought when Rex broke his leg and got healthy and Orton got them to the playoffs they should have kept Orton. If given the right opportunity I believe Orton could be the best. That's my pick.

ninerfan
09-13-2008, 04:10 PM
Alex Smith ??

scottyboy
09-13-2008, 04:13 PM
I like Campbell, but I still think Alex Smith with an offense that wasn't total garbage and stability with an OC could still be a good NFL QB. I'll take Smith, with Campbell and Young right behind.

And only Leinart if I didn't wanna throw the ball more than 40 yards and didn't play in a zone...

ninerfan
09-13-2008, 04:15 PM
Atleast Leinart would party like a pro bowler !!

neko4
09-13-2008, 04:16 PM
Give me BRODIE CROYLE
Give him an OL, a good WR with deep targets and a powerback who is still fresh and he'll do fine.

Menardo75
09-13-2008, 04:30 PM
I would pick Alex Smith. Start him off in the right offensive system that fits his skills. Hopefully get a weapon or two around him and see how he does

Smooth Criminal
09-13-2008, 04:30 PM
I'd take campbell. Only reason he looked that bad is cause he doesn't fit the system he was put in. I think he could be a great QB in a different system.

awfullyquiet
09-13-2008, 05:25 PM
I like Campbell, but I still think Alex Smith with an offense that wasn't total garbage and stability with an OC could still be a good NFL QB. I'll take Smith, with Campbell and Young right behind.

And only Leinart if I didn't wanna throw the ball more than 40 yards and didn't play in a zone...

I woulda taken Alex Smith as well. Out of college, I think he had a good chance of actually doing something pretty good. Give him a coach of Norm Chow or Cam Cameron or Marty Mornhinweg for for years... i'd be happy with the results. Because if we're going on physical tools and readiness out of college, I like Alex Smith, Leinhart and Jason Campbell.

giantsfan
09-13-2008, 07:47 PM
Trade my high first rounder, a 4th rounder and a 2nd and 4th next year for Jay Cutler and Go oline with my first two picks, trying to trade back as much as possible.

CJSchneider
09-14-2008, 07:22 AM
I picked Young. I say he would do the best of the top 3 (Lienart and Campbell) with a stud WR to throw to and an upgraded O-line.

SeanTaylorRIP
09-14-2008, 08:05 AM
Obviously I'd take Campbell but even if I wasn't a Skins fan I would. He has all the tools. Can make every single throw, something which can't be said about Young, Leinart, and Smith. He's a decent athlete too. For him his problem is that since his senior year in high school, this year is his 7th straight season having a new offensive system. Every single year he gets a new system and at this point I think his mind is just jumbled. Not mentioning the changes in high school and college he came into the NFL learning Gibbs old fashioned offense, then last year was bombarded with Al Saunders rediculous 20,0000,0000 page playbook which he had to learn on the fly. Now all of a sudden he has to work in the WCO, I just think mentally he's far too confused and doesn't know which reads to take, but some of it you can't even blame on him. A first round rookie QB coming into the league has enough to learn about the NFL game and refining technique, but nothing is worst for a QB's development like switching the offensive system every year. It's like every year he is a rookie. I think by the second half of the season he will begin to have a grasp of the system, but I could only hope that we don't change again next year.

MetSox17
09-14-2008, 08:45 AM
I'll take Matt Leinart. Seems to have everything you look for outside of a rocket arm. Plus, i'm not too huge a fan of Jason Campbell.

abaddon41_80
09-14-2008, 08:45 AM
We've already seen what Leinart can do with Pro Bowl receivers, a decent offensive line, and a decent running back so I definitely wouldn't take him.

Young has one of the best offensive lines and running games, not to mention the Titans defense, to fall back on and he is still terrible. Then there are his mental problems

Orton is nothing more than a game manager

I haven't seen anything from Campbell to make me think he is special

Croyle is just terrible, imo

For me it is a tough choice between Losman and Smith and since I am a 49er fan I voted Smith

CJSchneider
09-14-2008, 08:47 AM
... then last year was bombarded with Al Saunders rediculous 20,0000,0000 page playbook...

Hey I'm just an English teacher, but I think those zero's are in the wrong place buddy - LOL!

With Saunders it's more like 2000,00000,00000, - And that doesn't include the Gruden language translator.

Bearsfan123
09-14-2008, 10:08 AM
I choose Losman. I like his ability to be Grossman without the mess ups. He has potential. It was a tough choice for me, but after that came Campbell, then Leinart, then Croyle, then Smith. I didnt like Young coming out, I had to apologize after his first year in the league when he played well, now it appears I was right in the first place, though he still has about 3 more years until I declare him bust.

Just so you know, I would take Orton if you said I had an amazing Defense to work with.

BeerBaron
09-14-2008, 10:45 AM
Just so you know, I would take Orton if you said I had an amazing Defense to work with.

To be honest, Orton was just a last second throw in just in case someone wanted to go the game manager route.

While the other guys all have a lot of potential still, they've done enough to hurt their teams at times too to be considered busts. I can only remember one game that Orton has started where he actually lost us the game imo, and that was as a rookie against the Bengals when he threw like 4 picks. That was real early on in the year and the Bengals D that year was actually very good at ballhawking...

Sveen
09-14-2008, 10:50 AM
I'd take Jason Campbell.

WinslowEdwards19
09-14-2008, 12:12 PM
Honestly, I'd have to pick Alex Smith, he has so much potential that has been crushed by change and awful teams.

Give him a chance behind a decent line with decent options, while keeping the same coordinator for four years, and I think he would develop into a fine QB.

SeanTaylorRIP
09-14-2008, 03:51 PM
A game like today showed me why Campbell can be a very good QB in this league. He can make every throw imaginable, is a big guy, semi mobile, and his deep ball is a thing of beauty. No coincidence though that his biggest plays were personal audibles and not Zorn's dumb play calls.

YAYareaRB
09-14-2008, 07:02 PM
JT O'Sullivan

Menardo75
09-14-2008, 07:15 PM
JT O'Sullivan

Damn right baby

skinzzfan25
09-14-2008, 07:17 PM
Campbell's deep ball and PA rollouts are superb :D

the_legend_killer
09-14-2008, 07:44 PM
I went with Leinart, but Campbell was very very close.

SenorGato
09-14-2008, 08:31 PM
Campbell. He's a really good young QB...

I like Losman too...I think he could work somewhere...

Staubach12
09-14-2008, 08:33 PM
As much as I hate it... give me Campbell.

illmatic74
09-14-2008, 10:20 PM
Jason Cambell

Turtlepower
09-14-2008, 10:22 PM
Leinart or Ryan Leaf. Also, Akili Smith would be my choice.

d34ng3l021
09-14-2008, 10:43 PM
But honestly, I would take Matt Ryan over all of them.