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Ozzy
09-16-2008, 09:37 AM
Again, to the Moderators, this thread does not include only draft eligible players thus should not be in the "draft stock" thread. The draft stock thread is dead so why should I keep posting prospect thoughts on there?

Posted previously on a different thread according to week numbers.



Week 1

Terrence Cody SOPH NT Alabama: Wow, what a player, totally destroyed the Clemson running game, could be a true star down the line, great looking talent in his first game.


Nate Irving ILB SOPH NC State: All over the field, was the best "new" linebacker I saw all weekend, fast, hits hard and can really get off blocks with ease.


Emanuel Cook JR S South Carolina: One of the best safeties in the nation, last year was a big hitter and is even better this season, great open field tackler. If he works a little more on pass coverage he could be the best safety in the nation.


Butch Lewis SOPH OG USC: Was a beast, showed great athletic ability for a big man and sure has a bright future as a Trojan.


Clay Matthews SR DE USC: Will come out in this years draft as a potential OLB in a 3/4, played a great game and showed great intensity.


Ronald Johnson SOPH WR USC: Really did not do much last season but might be one of the best of a group of stacked SOPH USC WR's.


Damien Williams SOPH WR USC: Obviously he has talent, great run after catch athlete and should be the next great USC WR.


Javid Best SOPH RB Cal: Really showed toughness at RB, and with his speed he could be one of the best RB prospects in the nation if he can handle the pounding RB's take.


Mark Dell SOPH WR Michigan State: Really impressive, made great catches all over the field, good route runner and will easily take the place of Devin Thomas of last season.


Branden Warren SOPH TE Tennessee: Did not have a great game but is back from being gone for a year, was a monster at Florida State as a freshman, and should be wonderful this year for Tennessee as a pass catcher.


Demetrice Morley JR S Tennessee: Another Vol back from the brink, amazing safety, love his size, speed and ability to not only take the ball away but also tackle really well. Could be a great safety and arguably Berry and Morley are the best two safeties in the nation on any one team.


Brian Price SOPH DT UCLA: Was great in the middle for the Bruins, very quick, got off the ball and really played well and make big plays all game long.




Other notes:
Jasper Brinkley, I love him but really he will not be fast enough to play ILB in the NFL.

Sanchez is like a totally different player at QB on USC.

There are a lot of good but small CB's around in college football, here are a few just in terms of who I saw this weekend. Now everyone nows Munnerlyn is a player, but all of these other guys outside of Verner are new to me...very good prospects despite their size they can flat out cover and isn't that the point.

Captain Munnerlyn South Carolina
Alterraun Verner UCLA
Syd’Quan Thompson Cal
Bruce McCain Utah
DeAndre Morgan NC State

Ozzy
09-16-2008, 09:38 AM
Clay Matthews: Stock is really increasing, looked like a beast off the edge against Virginia. Could be a perfect 3/4 OLB prospect and could be one of the best available.
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/5576/f263838ij0.jpg


Zack Follett, Anthony Felder and Worrell Williams of Cal. What an amazing group of linebackers and all seem to be much improved over last year. Just in terms of three starters, they might have the best three starting linebackers of any team in the nation.

Otis Wiley: Had a big time game against Cal, he is big, can hit and cover.
http://blog.mlive.com/state_sports/2007/10/large_msu27.JPG


Montario Hardesty: If he keeps up his solid play he will be a sleeper down the line for sure.
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09ej47Vd9O0Mj/610x.jpg

Ozzy
09-16-2008, 09:38 AM
Week 2

Jevan Snead SOPH QB Mississippi: What can you say, wow, Mississippi now officially has a football team. What a QB, he can make all the throws, has a really strong arm, and can move around in the pocket a little also. What a prospect to watch.


Carlos Dunlap SOPH DE Florida: Such a large athletic human being, could be an absolute stud. Only problem, and it is the obvious problem, he is not consistent and is lazy at times because of his extreme talent. Amazing prospect though.


Erique Dozier SR ILB Bowling Green: Coming off his stellar performance against Pitt last year, this extremely athletic and fast ILB should be flying up the draft charts because of his intelligence and athletic ability on the field.


Robert Marve FR QB Miami FL: Quite an impressive showing for this young man, strong arm and he should be the QB, along with his other standout freshman teammate Harris, that bring the Canes back to a national powerhouse.


DJ Moore JR CB Vanderbilt: Big time player, amazing return man with great ball skills as a cover man. Plus he is built really well for a corner and can run.


Diyral Briggs SR DE Bowling Green: Could be a major sleeper in the draft, is a sack machine, not ideal size for the position but has great pass rush moves, a wonderful motor and just simply gets to the QB.


DJ Boldin SR WR Wake Forset: Wonderful WR prospect, has finally seemed to get it together and will follow his brothers footsteps right into the NFL next year.


Brandon Harris FR CB Miami FL: Very impressive prospect and is one to keep a big eye on.


Glenn Cook SR LB Miami FL: Played a great game for Miami, really showed up all over the field making place, not great size but could be a sleeper pick and in a way is built a little like and plays like Jon Beason the former Cane.



I was impressed with some of the prospects on Minnesota, they have three standout players on defense all from JUCO in S Brock, CB Simmons and LB Lawrence. Plus Bennett looked great, especially catching the football out of the backfield.


South Carolina, I am still ridiculously impressed with the talent they have on defense, despite the loss this week to Vandy. They have players at every level and their DL is outstanding. And despite Captain's poor game I still love his ability at CB.

Also really surprised with the players on Bowling Green, at WR they have some studs in Anthony Turner and Freddie Barnes.

Ozzy
09-16-2008, 09:40 AM
With the amazing success of Eddie Roya and DeSean Jacksonl so far in this NFL season, do not be surprised if small fast WR's go higher than expected in the up coming draft. Guys like...

Kenny McKinley South Carolina
Mike Thomas Arizona
Juaquin Iglesias Oklahoma
Jordan Norwood Penn State

Or JR prospects in Jacoby Ford, Tim Brown and Ray Small.

Ozzy
09-16-2008, 09:50 AM
Week 3


Jairus Byrd Oregon JR CB Oregon: What a game he had against Purdue, showed amazing ball skills, great quickness and truly is becoming one of the best CB's in the nation.


Chimdi Chekwa SOPH CB Ohio State: Very impressed with him, looks like he has taken the spot of talented Donald Washington and is going to stay the starter on Ohio State. Good athlete, can run and tackle.


Kerry Meier JR WR Kansas: Great looking prospect, will get the obvious comparisons to Matt Jones, but simply but the kid is huge, can run and has really soft hands.


Taurus Johnson SR WR South Florida: Monster WR, very big and physically strong and loved his intensity on the field against Kanas.


Patrick Turner SR WR USC: Really playing well and increasing his draft potential, is turning into quite a short yardage WR for the, really starting to use his great size and hold onto the ball.


Matthew Stafford JR QB Georgia: What can be said about the kid, he just played great and made some of the most impressive throws I have ever seen in that game against a super defense.


Jared Cook JR WR South Carolina: Played big time, is a huge man, in terms of being a prospect he is a lot like Hank Baskett, however Baskett did not get drafted but we all know he is a starter on the Eagles.


Geogia's SOPH LB's in Curran, Gamble and Dent: Wow, what a group of players at LB in that class, just amazing, all are fast, built low to the ground and can hit. What a talented group of young LB's.


Ed Dickson JR TE Oregon: Lived up to the hype, very athletic TE with great feet as anyone can see.


George Selvie JR DE South Florida: Simply put is probably the next great OLB/pass rusher in a 3/4 defense in the NFL.


Jonathan Wilson SOPH WR Kanas: Came out of nowhere and played wonderful, big long kid that really runs hard after the catch and has awesome hands.


Daniel Herron FR RB Ohio State: I was impressed with him early on, however they stopped giving him the ball. Good looking player though.

CJSchneider
09-16-2008, 10:06 AM
Can Joe McKnight and Damien Williams get some love, they looked pretty good against Ohio St.

http://www.joemcknight.org/images/joe-mcknight-pictures%20(15).jpg

http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Ohio+State+v+USC+2MEmAAHRLKUl.jpg

Ozzy
09-16-2008, 10:14 AM
That is true Joe McKnight has clearly become the #1 threat at the RB position in the nation. Last year he showed flashes, this year he is actually putting all that ability into on the field domination.

He is exactly like Reggie Bush, it is quite ridiculous. I must say, McKnight seems to be able to take a hit a little better than Reggie did back in the day.

Babylon
09-16-2008, 10:31 AM
Good stuff Oz, like that Clay Matthews is getting some pub. Hard to say but probably would have been a much higher rated player had he gone to school somewhere else.

On the other side would be Taylor Mays who i guess will let his numbers stand based on the combine because he cant get near the football.

Ozzy
09-16-2008, 10:37 AM
On the other side would be Taylor Mays who i guess will let his numbers stand based on the combine because he cant get near the football.I said another poster, Mays does not get near the football because he is the deep guy, Ellison is around the line Mays is the one player on that team not asked to play around the line of scrimmage. Heck even the corners get in on more action. Mays physically is very talented and really at safety it is all about how you can cover the pass, and if say he went down to a injury USC could not do a lot of the things they do because he would not be back there as the safety net literally.

As for the big time players, sure they are great but I also like talking about the smaller guys. Like in my world Kerry Meier is a super looking prospect, he is not great but as a lesser known guy he is a player as is all of the ones I have listed.

Ozzy
09-16-2008, 11:15 AM
Kendric Burney SOPH CB UNC: How could I forget, that kid is a flat out ball hawk, great ability to intercept the ball and has good speed. Despite his size he backs a punch as well.
http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/unc/sports/m-footbl/auto_action/1526995.jpeg

DeathbyStat
09-16-2008, 11:21 AM
Stephon Green from Penn State not huge numbers but has a ton of potential...but is behind Evan Royster who putting up good numbers although its against very bad competition.

Ozzy
09-17-2008, 09:45 AM
Week 3

LaGarrette Blount JR RB Oregon: What a beast as a RB, huge man with great size, will be very interesting to follow his career at Oregon.


Tyson Alualu JR DE Cal: Massive man, plays like a LB, tackles like a LB but is a DE that is about 290. Really impressed and if he keeps up this level of play watch out for him down the line. Really promising looking prospect.


Syd'Quan Thompson JR CB Cal: Had another great game, played even better, amazing balls skills, great quickness and surprisingly toughness tackling.


Scott Burley SR OT Maryland: Very solid OT prospect, and comes from a school that can produce good offensive linemen.


Jamie Thomas SR OG Maryland: Love his size, can really get down on a defender and push him around. Should be a solid OG prospect come draft time.


Lansford Watson FR TE Maryland: Potential star at TE, great athlete, can really run and make plays down the field.


Dave Philistin SR ILB Maryland: What a monster LB, can run all over the place and is a wonderful tackler. With his speed and ability to close in on ball carriers he could potentially be one of the better LB prospects in the draft.


Moise Fokou SR OLB Maryland: Physically he looks like a freak, huge man despite being someone light for a LB, he looks massive. Very quick and is a awesome pass rusher off the edge. Great prospect and do not be surprised if he is one of the top LB's when it is all said and done this year.


Kevin Barnes SR CB Maryland: Do not know much about him, but from what I have seen he plays hard, has good size for a CB and tackles well. Also seems to have great closing speed as well.


Brandon Tate SR WR UNC: What a prospect, do not be surprised if he is a 1st day selection come draft day. The kid is fast as can be, runs great routes and is strong. Very promising prospect that has to be remembered.

SeanTaylorRIP
09-17-2008, 09:49 AM
Stephon Green from Penn State not huge numbers but has a ton of potential...but is behind Evan Royster who putting up good numbers although its against very bad competition.

Evan Royster for me is one of the most complete backs in the entire nation. Green is a nice change of pace back, but to me Royster is the one who makes this offense go. He isn't the biggest or fastest guy but he flat out knows how to run the ball. Insane vision to see the wholes, and is very shifty and hard to tackle. Also can be a powerful runner between the tackles, good pass blocker and receiver. Green might get more exciting plays but Royster is what keeps things going. He will be their Tony Hunt the next few years.

jnew76
09-18-2008, 12:27 AM
After tonight

Victor Anderson - RB - Freshman - Louisville - He has to be mentioned in this thread after a breakout performance against K-State. Showed burst, vision, wiggle, and the speed to take it the distance. Someone to keep an eye on in the future.

For the season

Derrick Washington - RB - Soph - Missouri - I am going to be a homer and mention him here. He has had a great start to the season. Has only 35 carries YTD, but is averaging 7.8 ypc and has flashed great vision and burst. Patient ball carrier who knows how to set up blocks and pick the correct hole. He is a powerful 5'11" 215lbs. Is also an excellent pass catcher out of the backfield. Will never be showcased in the Missouri offense, but will be counted on much more in upcoming conference play.

Fogartynyy2789
09-18-2008, 12:37 AM
Evan Royster for me is one of the most complete backs in the entire nation. Green is a nice change of pace back, but to me Royster is the one who makes this offense go. He isn't the biggest or fastest guy but he flat out knows how to run the ball. Insane vision to see the wholes, and is very shifty and hard to tackle. Also can be a powerful runner between the tackles, good pass blocker and receiver. Green might get more exciting plays but Royster is what keeps things going. He will be their Tony Hunt the next few years.


Agreed, watching Royster run every Saturday is amazing. He's big enough to run between the tackles and has the speed to run to the outside. Granted the games so far have been cakewalks but this production should not dip due to Penn State returning the entire o-line from last year, plus the fact that the offense is much less predictable. On the other hand Green looked great in the blue-white game last spring, but is not ready to be the go to guy just yet.

Penn State's receiving corps are also looking strong, Deon Butler made some acrobatic catches against Syracuse and Jordan Norwood has been arguably the best wideout in the Big 10. Derrick Williams needs to stop making stupid plays such as somersaulting into the end zone against Syracuse in a game that was already a rout. He's been shaken up in the alst 2 games.

ToldLikeItIs
09-18-2008, 02:32 AM
Redshirt Freshman Tyler Sash Iowa

6'1 220

12 tackles, one sack, one interception last week in his first career start against Iowa State.

Ozzy
09-18-2008, 08:37 AM
Victor Anderson - RB - Freshman - Louisville - He has to be mentioned in this thread after a breakout performance against K-State. Showed burst, vision, wiggle, and the speed to take it the distance. Someone to keep an eye on in the future.Totally agree, he really looked good last night however K-State obviously has a horrible defense on every level. Very good looking young player though hopefully he can keep it up. I also love Bolen on that team running the ball with his toughness.

Ozzy
09-18-2008, 08:47 AM
Josh Chichester FR WR Louisville: Great looking young prospect, is a huge WR at 6-8, showed ok agility for his size and potentially he could be one heck of a target down the line. Hopefully he has more intensity and a better work ethic than Mario Urrutia.


Hunter Cantwell SR QB Louisville: Played great last night, a lot better than he did against Kentucky. What I liked most about him is his play fakes, really fine ball handler. He could be a sleeper in the draft.


Doug Beaumont SOPH WR Louisville: Extremely impressive little WR, showed wonderful hands and was not afraid to make catches in traffic, if he continues his fine player everyone will know his name real soon.


Deon Murphy JR WR Kansas State: Another outstanding small WR, has wonderful speed, a little questionable as a punt return man, but overall with his speed he was wonderful potential. Amazing prospect overall especially if he works on his catching punts more soundly.


Brandon Banks JR WR Kansas State: Yet again, a great small WR, and the smallest around literally. He looked amazing last night, blazing speed obviously and is very difficult to bring down. Watch out for him, he could potentially be a major weapon in the NFL.


Jeron Masturd JR TE Kansas State: Massive TE, is a real fine target in the open field and can really run. Wonderful prospect, just has to keep playing well on the field and he could become a elite TE prospect if he keeps being such a great deep threat TE at his size.




*Where does Kansas State get these guys? They have all of these players that are exactly like Darren Sproles or Yamon Figuers? Banks and Murphy are two big time small WR prospects and like I said before with the success little WR's are having in the NFL, these guys could be very valuable.

*Also I was ridiculously impressed with Louisville, I thought they would be horrible this year because last year was just awful. But now seems like they actually are a tough football team with good leadership. Ron English will be gone after this year though if they keep playing this well on defense, he has to be a head coach somewhere obviously.

keylime_5
09-18-2008, 08:49 AM
Clay Matthews really impressed me. He reminds me of Carpenter and Vrabel.

jared
09-18-2008, 11:39 AM
Daniel Charbonnet, SR, Texas Tech: 3 INT vs. SMU

Season Stats:
13 tackles, 4 INT, 6 total pass breakups, 1 fumble recovery

Sniper
09-18-2008, 11:44 AM
Where is Sam McGuffie on your list?

Ozzy
09-18-2008, 12:03 PM
Where is Sam McGuffie on your list?I have not got the chance to really see him play consistently as of yet. Wish I could have saw that Notre Dame Michigan game last week though.

Sniper
09-18-2008, 12:04 PM
I have not got the chance to really see him play consistently as of yet. Wish I could have saw that Notre Dame Michigan game last week though.

Fair enough. Donovan Warren, sophomore corner from Michigan, is another good one. 2 PI calls against ND but one was straight ********. Other than that, he's cash money.

Babylon
09-18-2008, 01:08 PM
Where is Sam McGuffie on your list?

What is your take on McGuffie? To me he doesnt really have the size to be a back at the pro level but i can certainly see him playing WR. Could be an Anthony Carter or Wes Welker type if he moves outside. Do you see him staying at RB for his career there?

jared
09-18-2008, 01:27 PM
He's only a freshman. Give him a couple years. He has time to get bigger and stronger for the NFL.

Sniper
09-18-2008, 02:57 PM
What is your take on McGuffie? To me he doesnt really have the size to be a back at the pro level but i can certainly see him playing WR. Could be an Anthony Carter or Wes Welker type if he moves outside. Do you see him staying at RB for his career there?

Well, he's 5'11", 195 pounds as a freshman. I think he could easily pack on 10-15 pounds without losing his explosiveness and agility.

jared
09-18-2008, 04:51 PM
He certainly doesn't look 195 right now. I know his weight is listed lower on the roster. Either way though I agree, he can put on a little weight and still be deadly.

Babylon
09-18-2008, 04:54 PM
He certainly doesn't look 195 right now. I know his weight is listed lower on the roster. Either way though I agree, he can put on a little weight and still be deadly.

I just dont see him as an every down NFL running back and that hasnt anything to do with skin color (i know no one brought that up). I do see him as a deadly guy in space at the next level.

jared
09-18-2008, 05:02 PM
I just dont see him as an every down NFL running back and that hasnt anything to do with skin color (i know no one brought that up). I do see him as a deadly guy in space at the next level.

Does any freshman RB in the nation look like an every down NFL RB? That's my only point. Let's give him another year or two and see how he grows (physically and mentally) into the position. It's too early to start the talks of him becoming a slot receiver in the NFL. I'm enjoying the McGuffie show. Don't spoil it for me.

Sniper
09-18-2008, 05:09 PM
Does any freshman RB in the nation look like an every down NFL RB? That's my only point. Let's give him another year or two and see how he grows (physically and mentally) into the position. It's too early to start the talks of him becoming a slot receiver in the NFL. I'm enjoying the McGuffie show. Don't spoil it for me.

MICHIGAN HAS MIKE BARWIS AS THEIR S&C COACH!!!!111!!! ZOMGZ. Sorry, that's the typical Michigan fan on free boards. Anyways, I think Barwis can make McGuffie bigger and stronger and able to handlle a full-time load at RB.

Cribbs>Hester
09-19-2008, 06:50 PM
Potentially big match up tonight when Baylor and UCONN play at 8:00et.

Cody Brown DE/OLB prosepect from Connecticut may see some match ups against Jason Smith OT prospect from Baylor.

I don't pay much attention to him, but I guess Darius Butler CB prospect from Connecticut is another guy scouts are very impressed with and his stock seems to be on the rise.

Staubach12
09-20-2008, 10:28 PM
Chad Jones is a beast. All around the ball, great on special teams.

BamaFalcon59
09-20-2008, 10:34 PM
Darren Evans, rFr RB at Virginia Tech., is an amazing player. Amazing vision, power, toughness. Possesses a good burst and size as well.

BamaFalcon59
09-20-2008, 10:36 PM
Oh, and Stephan Virgil is a baller who will continue Virginia Tech.'s legacy of great cornerbacks after Macho Harris leaves. Right now Virgil has two interceptions, returned a blocked extra point for two points, a fumble recovery for a touchdown, and has consistently played great coverage.

BufFan71
09-21-2008, 10:51 AM
Does any freshman RB in the nation look like an every down NFL RB? That's my only point. Let's give him another year or two and see how he grows (physically and mentally) into the position. It's too early to start the talks of him becoming a slot receiver in the NFL. I'm enjoying the McGuffie show. Don't spoil it for me.

he hasnt played like it

but Darrell Scott looks like a man among boys when it comes to physical appearence

BBIB
09-21-2008, 08:35 PM
Terrelle Pryor:

4 Touchdown Passes in his first game as a starter as a TRUE FRESHMAN.

I laugh at the locked thread on here that has the guy moving to the WR position at the next level.

This kid is far ahead of the curve as a passer than dual threat QBs in the past like Vince Young, Troy Smith, etc.

Sniper
09-21-2008, 08:39 PM
Terrelle Pryor:

4 Touchdown Passes in his first game as a starter as a TRUE FRESHMAN.

I laugh at the locked thread on here that has the guy moving to the WR position at the next level.

This kid is far ahead of the curve as a passer than dual threat QBs in the past like Vince Young, Troy Smith, etc.


It was Troy.

P-L
09-21-2008, 09:16 PM
It was Troy.
Not to mention that three of those TD passes were poorly thrown balls that the receivers had to make plays on.

Pryor has a ton of potential and is likely going to be a headache for college teams for the next 3-4 years. However, he still has a long way to go as a passer before he's a top NFL prospect.

Sniper
09-21-2008, 09:23 PM
Not to mention that three of those TD passes were poorly thrown balls that the receivers had to make plays on.

Pryor has a ton of potential and is likely going to be a headache for college teams for the next 3-4 years. However, he still has a long way to go as a passer before he's a top NFL prospect.

Yeah. Especially that third one to Hartline. Straight up wobbly duck. Great catch though.

keylime_5
09-21-2008, 09:32 PM
I don't think Pryor's career in the NFL is gonna be anything great, not looking for him to be a great pro QB prospect unless he refines his passing game even more than it is....but for a college QB this kid is gonna be unbelievable. 4 TDs and virtually no turnovers in his first career start as a true freshman (he had an INT but it was on a 50 yard hailmary at the end of the 1st half, faux interception) is pretty darn good. He is certainly a better passer at this point in his career than Vince Young and Troy Smith were as true freshman...and Vince was the #3 overall pick and Troy the heisman winner in 2006.

Sniper
09-21-2008, 09:33 PM
I don't think Pryor's career in the NFL is gonna be anything great, not looking for him to be a great pro QB prospect unless he refines his passing game even more than it is....but for a college QB this kid is gonna be unbelievable. 4 TDs and virtually no turnovers in his first career start as a true freshman (he had an INT but it was on a 50 yard hailmary at the end of the 1st half, faux interception) is pretty darn good. He is certainly a better passer at this point in his career than Vince Young and Troy Smith were as true freshman...and Vince was the #3 overall pick and Troy the heisman winner in 2006.

It was Troy.

keylime_5
09-21-2008, 09:36 PM
If Boeckman was in there he would've had like 1 TD and 2 INTs. Considering how bad the OLine and WRs were we could've lost if it wasn't for Pryor. 4 TD passes is 4 TD passes, Troy is better than Ohio and they scored like 20 and 30 points on Alabama, Florida, and Georgia last year with the same offense.

BBIB
09-21-2008, 09:37 PM
It was Troy.

Vince Young never threw 4 TD passes against ANY team until his final year. Only one time he did it in his career.

He never accounted for more than 2 TDs his first year as a starter. And he wassn't a true Freshman.

BBIB
09-21-2008, 09:38 PM
If Boeckman was in there he would've had like 1 TD and 2 INTs. Considering how bad the OLine and WRs were we could've lost if it wasn't for Pryor.

Yeah but according to these guys his WRs made Calvin Johnson esque adjustments to Reggie Ball esque thrown balls.

In reality Terrelle Pryor put the ball only where his receivers could catch it right on the money.

Kid has a great arm with a flick of the wrist. Seems he is polarizing with fans and critics already.

Not to mention that three of those TD passes were poorly thrown balls that the receivers had to make plays on.

Pryor has a ton of potential and is likely going to be a headache for college teams for the next 3-4 years. However, he still has a long way to go as a passer before he's a top NFL prospect.

Every Freshman QB has a long way to go before being a pro prospect.

I thought it was humorous that a thread a week ago was making him a WR at the next level.

It seems people always want to move dual threat guys to another position. This was before Pryor ever even took a snap as a college QB and already insinuating he has to switch positions.

Ozzy
09-21-2008, 09:42 PM
Pryor did look good against Troy, but yes it was Troy. And yes I did mention maybe he could move to WR because again I say would Vince Young be better at WR in the NFL now than he is at QB? Possibly?

Pryor however will ultimately depend on how he is on the field in terms of the decisions he makes. I was not all that impressed with his throws because the players were quite open and they were not all that difficult. Long and pretty, but not difficult. He does seem to have good leadership abilities and intensity on the field. Only time will tell.

However, Vince Young proves that a QB could look like the total **** in college, and against faster and bigger competition look like a complete fool. As of now, Pryor is a better athlete than a passer, which is really what Vince Young still is.

Sniper
09-21-2008, 09:45 PM
Yeah but according to these guys his WRs made Calvin Johnson esque adjustments to Reggie Ball esque thrown balls.

In reality Terrelle Pryor put the ball only where his receivers could catch it right on the money.

Kid has a great arm with a flick of the wrist. Seems he is polarizing with fans and critics already.

Did you SEE the pass to Hartline? It was a ******* dead duck.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=282640194

Of the three TD passes shown in here, two are dead ducks. I mean, not even close to spirals. His WR were wide open.

keylime_5
09-21-2008, 09:46 PM
He is a better athelte than a passer right now, but like I said Troy Smith wasn't anything special as a passer until his junior year. He was just a runner who had a strong arm coming in and was nowhere near as polished as Terrelle is as a true freshman....and Troy became a very good passer in time. Troy didn't have the best deep ball, but he made some amazing and accurate short and intermediate throws and won the heisman with 30 TD throws to boot.

keylime_5
09-21-2008, 09:47 PM
Did you SEE the pass to Hartline? It was a ******* dead duck.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=282640194

Of the three TD passes shown in here, two are dead ducks. I mean, not even close to spirals. His WR were wide open.

One thing he does now that Boeckman has yet to do: He leads his receivers and hits them in stride (he actually throws the ball before a guy gets open and doesn't hold onto the ball until the guy gets seperation).

Ozzy
09-21-2008, 10:28 PM
Week 4
Everette Brown JR DE Florida State: Wow did he impress, what a wonderful pass rusher off the edge. Shows the same kind of freak athletic ability Lawrence Timmons showed before he came out early for the draft. Could be just as good of fit into a 3/4 defense as Timmons was, great prospect and is easily one of the top OLB 3/4 prospects in the nation whenever he comes out.


Kenny Ingram SR LB/S Florida State: What an absolute freak, I remember the kid but never really remember him making plays. Supposedly his career high of tackles was 4 last year and he never played. He will play a lot now, great prospect with his height and speed. He made big time plays in that game and showed great athletic ability. Quite a project but what a base to build from, love his intensity as well.


Rahim Alem JR DE LSU: Wonderful looking speed rusher, is very quick off the ball and is probably the next great LSU defensive lineman. One of what six to seven NFL prospects on their defensive line. Alem looked outstanding against a solid Auburn offensive line though.


D’Vontrey Richardson SOPH QB Florida State: Sure most would say he played horrible but he looked special in that game. Showed obvious running ability with the football. I like how he took chances down the field as well, which makes he very dangerous and harder to handle. Still very raw but will be really interesting to see how he turns out. Let me just say I never remember Xavier Lee finishing runs the way Richardson did so my guess is Richardson might have more heart and toughness than the past FSU QB's in the last few years.


Tony Carter SR CB Florida State: Played great, have him as one of my top SR CB's and he did not disappointed. Sure he can get beat but he is wonderful tackling in the open field, stays in position, is very smart and plays the ball well in the air. Fine CB prospect and could be a good one if he keeps working on his game.


Kevin Patterson SR S Wake Forest: His versatility is what really makes him special, has played CB and S, is very good in pass coverage and is just in the right place at the right time.


Riley Skinner SOPH QB Wake Forest: Very good prospect, best is how he manages the game so well and moves in the pocket. For a young player he really acts in control and he should have a great career at Wake and possibly get a shot in the NFL. Just knows how to play the game.


Charles Scott JR RB LSU: Like others have already said, the kid is a beast and really is playing well. Is a great big back that just is hard to take down and shows very good consistency caring the ball and gaining yardage. Could really sky rocket in the next few weeks if he keeps running so hard.


Lee Ziemba SOPH OT Auburn: Real good looking OT, got beat a few times but shows very good quickness for his size and moves his feet well. Should be a monster in the SEC for a long time.


Chip Vaughn SR S Wake Forest: Just really noticed this player, physically is great and tackles fine just wish he made more plays on the ball in the air. Sure he has the perfect body for a safety but why doesn't he make more plays on the field? Perfect standard SS body though.








A few question marks:
Myron Rolle- sad to say but the question has to be asked, is this kid too slow to play safety in the NFL? Also considering he is trying to be a Rhodes Scholar, is football his main focus? Or should it even be? Wonderful character kid but sadly might be too slow to cover the pass, sure looked a step slow on the field at times against Wake.

Corey Surrency- saw one thread on this kid, seriously, he did nothing and looks like he cannot get off coverage.

Antonio Smith-what a joke, if FSU had a better RB they would be a much better team and Smith clearly cannot get it done.

Greg Carr- very disappointing, huge target, great jump ball threat but just does not seem always into the game like unlike his teammate Preston Parker who actually seems like he cares.

georgiafan
09-22-2008, 08:02 AM
I'll state the obvious and add A.J Green to this

Ozzy
09-22-2008, 09:07 AM
Week 4


Otis Wiley SR S Michigan State: Wow, what a safety prospect, and with the injury to Moore, I have Wiley as the top SR safety with the way he is playing. Years before he was a big kid, made hits but now he is all over the field making plays in pass defense and run defense. Playing like a 1st round pick in my book right now.


Brandon Tate SR WR UNC: Another player just really playing well, in my eyes he is really starting to rise as a senior WR and is becoming one of the top 4 SR WR's in the nation.


Roland Martin SR OG Michigan State: Big kid, playing well, love his size and he is one to keep and eye on as is his teammate Jesse Miller.


Robert Quinn FR DE UNC: Showed some good quickness and power off the edge against Virginia Tech. And as a freshman has worlds of potential if he is already this far along.


Greg Little SOPH RB UNC: Great thing is his size, tall and strong RB. Should be a powerful man in college and will continue to improve his game. He is a player to watch down the line.


Golden Tate SOPH WR Notre Dame: A fine looking pass catcher for the Irish, has good speed and soft hands. Will be interesting to see him develop.

themaninblack
09-22-2008, 09:18 AM
I'll state the obvious and add A.J Green to this

and Rennie Curran. You can change ur sig btw he IS a star.

Cribbs>Hester
09-22-2008, 09:23 AM
Week 4
Otis Wiley SR S Michigan State: Wow, what a safety prospect, and with the injury to Moore, I have Wiley as the top SR safety with the way he is playing. Years before he was a big kid, made hits but now he is all over the field making plays in pass defense and run defense. Playing like a 1st round pick in my book right now.

Thank You!!!!!! Someone else is finally noticed this kid can flat out play ball. I wish Warrick would have stuck somewhere in the NFL because Wiley and Warrick were my favorite combo in college last season. Wiley has taken it up a notch this year. Shhhhhhhh don't say 1st round bc I want him in Cleveland with a 2nd or 3rd haha.

georgiafan
09-22-2008, 09:56 AM
and Rennie Curran. You can change ur sig btw he IS a star.

Yeah Rennie was everywhere, I can honestly say I don't think there is a LB in the country I would trade him for. He also has 3 sacks on the year. The thing about him is about all his tackles come within a few yards of the line of scrimmage. It's not other LB who pile up stats by jumping on piles 10 yards down the field.

rockio42
09-22-2008, 09:59 AM
Not even a mention of Sean Weatherspoon...20 tackles, 1 PD, and 1 sack

eaglesalltheway
09-22-2008, 10:31 AM
Not even a mention of Sean Weatherspoon...20 tackles, 1 PD, and 1 sack

Weatherspoon has become a seasonal standout, maybe he forgot about him, but it looks like he was only able to get to see a few games like myself. Maybe he didnn't get the Mizzou game.

eaglesalltheway
09-22-2008, 10:35 AM
Thank You!!!!!! Someone else is finally noticed this kid can flat out play ball. I wish Warrick would have stuck somewhere in the NFL because Wiley and Warrick were my favorite combo in college last season. Wiley has taken it up a notch this year. Shhhhhhhh don't say 1st round bc I want him in Cleveland with a 2nd or 3rd haha.

I've noticed this kid since the beginning of the season, and this kid can flat out play. He may play himself into the first round, and considering how Quentin Mikell has played, FS is a need for the Eagles, and I am a fan of this kid a lot, and he is someone I am trying to keep an eye on. He has been playing like the definition of ballhawk so far this year, and like was said before, is coming up in the run game as well. Right now I would put him as a borderline first rounder if he keeps up what he is doing, or close to it anyway. If he stays this consistent the whole season, he may be a sure-fire first rounder, but most people probably have him in the 2-4 round range. Once a lot of the experts see more of him, I expect his stock to rise considerably, as long as he doesn't disapear anyway.

marks01234
09-22-2008, 11:21 AM
Week 4


Greg Little SOPH RB UNC: Great thing is his size, tall and strong RB. Should be a powerful man in college and will continue to improve his game. He is a player to watch down the line.






Eh, I'm not seeing it yet in Little. Runs to upright, lacks the wiggle and has fumbling issues. I've always thought he would be best on the defensive side of the ball (where Notre Dame and several schools liked him).

BBIB
09-22-2008, 12:01 PM
Pryor did look good against Troy, but yes it was Troy. And yes I did mention maybe he could move to WR because again I say would Vince Young be better at WR in the NFL now than he is at QB? Possibly?

Pryor however will ultimately depend on how he is on the field in terms of the decisions he makes. I was not all that impressed with his throws because the players were quite open and they were not all that difficult. Long and pretty, but not difficult. He does seem to have good leadership abilities and intensity on the field. Only time will tell.

However, Vince Young proves that a QB could look like the total **** in college, and against faster and bigger competition look like a complete fool. As of now, Pryor is a better athlete than a passer, which is really what Vince Young still is.

I wasn't trying to call you out if that is what it seemed.

It just seems that VY is the new guy that everyone compares dual threat guys to suggest they will fail at the next level.

I have to remind people that Vince Young was a WR prospect until his final year at Texas. He had as many interceptions as touchdowns going into his final year.

I hate when people automatically compare someone for instance like Tebow who is far ahead of the curve as a passer than Vince Young.

I feel the same for Pryor who as a TRUE FRESHMAN is far more advanced as a passer than Vince Young was going into his redshirt-Junior year.

BBIB
09-22-2008, 12:07 PM
One thing he does now that Boeckman has yet to do: He leads his receivers and hits them in stride (he actually throws the ball before a guy gets open and doesn't hold onto the ball until the guy gets seperation).

Which is something that many QBs coming out of college struggle to do in the pros. Anticipation of a WR getting open instead of waiting until you see them clearly open because often times by that time it's too late.

Another thing dual threat guys especially struggle with is the tendency to take their eyes off the receivers and on the LOS when they feel pressure. Pryor showed great pocket presence and despite his athleticism looked to throw the ball first.

Obviously every game in his career won't be as easy as that one, something he will quickly learn possibly as soon as next game vs Minnseota. By the Wisconsin game for sure.

But I don't see how it can be denied that the kid is far more polished as a passer than the average Freshman, especially for a dual threat guy who usually coming out of HS rarely had to use their arm at all to beat a team.

Sniper
09-22-2008, 12:09 PM
Because hitting wide open receivers with all day to throw and STILL throwing wobbly ducks just really isn't all that impressive.

keylime_5
09-22-2008, 12:14 PM
most of his throws were where they needed to be, and the reason he had all day to throw is because he eludes the pass rush with his feet, Boeckman was terrible at that. Defensive linemen have to keep their heads up and use an attentive pass rush against Pryor b/c of his feet instead of pinning their ears back and letting it rip like they would Boeckman. You gotta play zone instead of man to man against a guy like Pryor or Vince Young to not turn your back to the play too which hurts the blitz. 4 TDs is 4 TDs...should've been 5 if Robiskie actually tried to catch the one throw that was on the money that would've been a 90 yd TD pass should Brian had used two hands and looked for the ball.

BBIB
09-22-2008, 12:16 PM
Because hitting wide open receivers with all day to throw and STILL throwing wobbly ducks just really isn't all that impressive.

So simple isn't it?

Even though it's Something even with a redshirt that Vince Young was not capable of doing his first couple of years playing college football. Even though it's so simple, Vince Young struggled just to make his passing touchdown totals match all the picks threw.

And only one game in his entire college career managed to match that simple feat that Pryor did in his 1st game as a starter.

Same for Dennis Dixon and any other dual threat QB in recent memory not named Tebow have accomplished outside their final season.

Certainly not as a true freshman. Heck most of them weren't even ready to play their true freshman year.

ElectricEye
09-22-2008, 12:46 PM
I agree with the point that Pryor looked like an advanced passer for his age comparatively to the more recent super-mobile/running quarterbacks. I really don't think the throws he made were THAT bad. The first throw he made to Hartline probably would have be overthrown by a lot of other guys in the Pryor mold. Bad throw, but he found the open guy. One could argue that Vince Young never learned to do that. A bit of an exaggeration, but still. The Robiskie throw was a good one, I think. Should have gunned it in a bit harder, but still, nice throw. It's Troy, that much is true, but they should still get a measure of credit for being pretty brutal against quarterbacks this year. Granted, it's against Alcorn State and Middle Tennessee, but still. Not an amazing game by any means, but he showed some interesting qualities for a guy of his ilk.

Sniper
09-22-2008, 12:50 PM
I'll be impressed when he shows he can consistently throw tight spirals and not flailing ducks that would get picked off by a semi-decent team.

Babylon
09-22-2008, 01:06 PM
I think Pryor's mechanical flaws if you will can be corrected. A good comparison can be made to Vince Young at a similar stage but to me Pryor carries himself a little better as a leader, i always thought Young was too full of himself.

Sniper
09-22-2008, 01:07 PM
I think Pryor's mechanical flaws if you will can be corrected. A good comparison can be made to Vince Young at a similar stage but to me Pryor carries himself a little better as a leader, i always thought Young was too full of himself.

In college? Vince Young was one of the best leaders in the last ten years. There is a reason Texas beat USC.

themaninblack
09-22-2008, 01:12 PM
Yeah Rennie was everywhere, I can honestly say I don't think there is a LB in the country I would trade him for. He also has 3 sacks on the year. The thing about him is about all his tackles come within a few yards of the line of scrimmage. It's not other LB who pile up stats by jumping on piles 10 yards down the field.

There may not be a more impressive Linebacker in the country right now. I don't know how he does a lot of the things he does. You'd think since he's a smaller/faster LBer he'd be more of a finesse type player but that is simply not the case.

Babylon
09-22-2008, 01:18 PM
In college? Vince Young was one of the best leaders in the last ten years. There is a reason Texas beat USC.

I just like Pryor's demeanor better, cant deny Vince's record but i think his makeup is what's catching up with him now.

BBIB
09-22-2008, 02:21 PM
In college? Vince Young was one of the best leaders in the last ten years. There is a reason Texas beat USC.

Because that was the worst USC defense this decade. Not even ranked in the top 30 in any statistical category unlike every other defense that team has had since the turn of the century.

Not to mention Reggie Bush on the sidelines of 4th and 2.

Or the clearly down knee of VY or the ridiculously stupid lateral play by Bush.

I don't think Pryor will have near that easy a time the rest of the way but it should be clear by the end of this year that he just like TT was, is far ahead of the VY curve as a passer and overall. Pryor is actually a better athlete as well.

As far as leader, this guy is a TRUE FRESHMAN and he motivates his teammates to play harder who most of them are Juniors and Seniors.

I just like Pryor's demeanor better, cant deny Vince's record but i think his makeup is what's catching up with him now.

Ken Dorsey had an awesome record as well.

Record is a team achievement. VY had 3 different running backs who made it to the NFL level on that Texas team. Not to mention their championship defense.

Ozzy
09-22-2008, 02:23 PM
Back to Brandon Tate, he is easily a 1st to second round pick depending on what underclassmen WR's come out....haha Seriously though that is why I started a thread on Pryor because obviously there are a lot of opinions on this kid.

We will see how the rest of the year goes. Strange people complain about Pryor and is weak throws yet still a lot defend him. Then there are people complaining about Stafford and his lack of statistical success despite throwing the ball literally like the best of NFL quarterbacks.

Sniper
09-22-2008, 02:34 PM
Because that was the worst USC defense this decade. Not even ranked in the top 30 in any statistical category unlike every other defense that team has had since the turn of the century.

He still had to score more points than an offense with Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush, LenDale White et al.

Not to mention Reggie Bush on the sidelines of 4th and 2.

The way LenDale was running that game, no one could blame Pete Carroll for going with him. White was KILLING it inside.

BBIB
09-22-2008, 02:46 PM
He still had to score more points than an offense with Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush, LenDale White et al.

You put Vince Young out there vs any USC defense from any year other than that one and they make him look like they made Juice Williams look in their last Bowl Game.

Vince Young doesn't have the speed to beat elite athletes to the corner like a Vick or even a Pryor.

I'll be impressed when he shows he can consistently throw tight spirals and not flailing ducks that would get picked off by a semi-decent team.

He put the ball where only his receiver could get it. Only one of those TDs did he underthrow the guy.

Im curious which semi-decent team is going it expose him. Minnesota is undefeated I believe. Will he be exposed before he plays Wisconsin? Or are you going to go on the safe side and bet on the top 10 team at home exposing him?

Cribbs>Hester
09-22-2008, 03:33 PM
This is a great thread. It's just a shame its going to get completely ruinned by a typical Ohio State vs. Michigan arguement.

As always in one of these the Ohio State/Michigan guy is overrated their player and the opposite party is underrating the player. Lets end it at that and let this great thread go back to a great thread.

Ozzy
09-22-2008, 04:12 PM
Eh, I'm not seeing it yet in Little. Runs to upright, lacks the wiggle and has fumbling issues. I've always thought he would be best on the defensive side of the ball (where Notre Dame and several schools liked him).True, he does run upright, all RB's do that are 6-3 or taller, it just looks different. However I really like his power that he shows potentially. Sure he is not a wiggle guy, but I think he could be interesting down the line. I always love those Eddie George type RB's, yet ultimately their are not RB's like Eddie George anywhere it seems.

Yes he could move to defense though, but that would be a surprise they need a RB on UNC more than a DE.

themaninblack
09-22-2008, 05:21 PM
Forgot to mention that Georgia started true Frosh Ben Jones at Center versus ASU. I keyed in on him a lot and he is already a pretty good player. He's got a very bright future ahead of him.

BamaFalcon59
09-22-2008, 05:24 PM
Thank You!!!!!! Someone else is finally noticed this kid can flat out play ball. I wish Warrick would have stuck somewhere in the NFL because Wiley and Warrick were my favorite combo in college last season. Wiley has taken it up a notch this year. Shhhhhhhh don't say 1st round bc I want him in Cleveland with a 2nd or 3rd haha.

Check hit number one in my sig.

Warrick is a player I like just because of that.

Hokie_Pokie08
09-23-2008, 12:07 AM
Does any freshman RB in the nation look like an every down NFL RB? That's my only point. Let's give him another year or two and see how he grows (physically and mentally) into the position. It's too early to start the talks of him becoming a slot receiver in the NFL. I'm enjoying the McGuffie show. Don't spoil it for me.

Mark Ingram and from a physical standpoint Darren Evans.

BamaFalcon59
09-23-2008, 12:13 AM
I've mentioned Stephan Virgil and Darren Evans, but they are a page back. So my VT player for this page is John Graves. 6'3" 295 pound defensive tackle. Explosive, played defensive end out of highschool. Big disruptor with size, is only a sophmore. Also has three blocked kicks in four games this season.

marks01234
09-23-2008, 06:30 AM
True, he does run upright, all RB's do that are 6-3 or taller, it just looks different. However I really like his power that he shows potentially. Sure he is not a wiggle guy, but I think he could be interesting down the line. I always love those Eddie George type RB's, yet ultimately their are not RB's like Eddie George anywhere it seems.

Yes he could move to defense though, but that would be a surprise they need a RB on UNC more than a DE.

Greg Little is leagues away from Eddie George. I'm not really sure how you can classify him as a power back either.

Race for the Heisman
09-23-2008, 07:21 AM
Little looks like a wide receiver playing running back. I mean, that's what he is and that's what it looks like. Physically I think he could make the transition, but he obviously has a ways to go on the learning curve.

Ozzy
09-23-2008, 08:38 AM
I've mentioned Stephan Virgil and Darren Evans, but they are a page back. So my VT player for this page is John Graves. 6'3" 295 pound defensive tackle. Explosive, played defensive end out of highschool. Big disruptor with size, is only a sophmore. Also has three blocked kicks in four games this season.I still need to see these players play more, Graves of course because he blocked 3 kicks, anyone would be impressed with that for a defensive tackle nonetheless. Virgil I still need to see more of and I am not sold yet on their RB's, because they have always had some ok RB's but in the NFL they never really were good at all. First one that comes to mind is Lee Suggs, great college player not very good at all in the league. Let us not even mention Jones.

adamprez2003
09-23-2008, 09:05 AM
DT SenDerrick Marks - Auburn - Junior -amazing burst
CB Glover Quinn - New Mexico - Senior - Its too early to say for sure how good he is, but New Mexico plays BYU in a couple of weeks so I'll have a better picture after that game. Guy seems to have it all, good cover ability, good ball awareness and can play the run. Looked better than DeAndre Wright to me. New Mexico has one of the better CB tandems in college this year

bernbabybern820
09-23-2008, 09:46 AM
Terrence Cody will be a first round NT next year. Mark my words.

Race for the Heisman
09-23-2008, 10:03 AM
Terrence Cody will be a first round NT next year. Mark my words.

He looks almost like a Kris Jenkins clone.

Ozzy
09-23-2008, 10:04 AM
Terrence Cody will be a first round NT next year. Mark my words.Yes previously we have discussed him, he is a great player and yeah anyone that watches him play once can see that. Just look at his size and how he gets off the ball. Do not think that statement is that outlandish at all, not many people would argue it.

Cribbs>Hester
09-23-2008, 11:24 AM
I still need to see these players play more, Graves of course because he blocked 3 kicks, anyone would be impressed with that for a defensive tackle nonetheless. Virgil I still need to see more of and I am not sold yet on their RB's, because they have always had some ok RB's but in the NFL they never really were good at all. First one that comes to mind is Lee Suggs, great college player not very good at all in the league. Let us not even mention Jones.

Lee Suggs had plenty of talent to hang with the big boys, and he proved it over and over again...when he was healthy. He just couldn't stay healthy for more than something like 4 weeks at a time. He was a very good running back in the NFL especially behind the pathetic offensive line we(Browns) had in those days. I wouldn't say that Suggs didn't make it do to talent, he didn't make it because of injuries.

bernbabybern820
09-23-2008, 05:16 PM
Yes previously we have discussed him, he is a great player and yeah anyone that watches him play once can see that. Just look at his size and how he gets off the ball. Do not think that statement is that outlandish at all, not many people would argue it.

Pretty crazy how he wasn't highly touted before college.

Hokie_Pokie08
09-25-2008, 07:47 PM
Lee Suggs had plenty of talent to hang with the big boys, and he proved it over and over again...when he was healthy. He just couldn't stay healthy for more than something like 4 weeks at a time. He was a very good running back in the NFL especially behind the pathetic offensive line we(Browns) had in those days. I wouldn't say that Suggs didn't make it do to talent, he didn't make it because of injuries.

Bingo, Lee Suggs had the talent to make it. He jacked up his shoulder at the Combine and then just kept getting hurt during his career. Unfortunately the injury bug has followed Kevin Jones as well. Both had worlds of talent, but haven't been able to stay healthy.

Texas Homer
09-28-2008, 07:51 PM
Super Soph. RT for Texas Kyle Hix played another good game for Texas this week.

True Frosh Aaron Williams CB for Texas flashed some of his potential with a 90 yd. int. that he took back for a TD. Williams is so good that he may end up starting by the end of the season at CB as a true Freshman.

Ozzy
09-28-2008, 08:22 PM
True Frosh Aaron Williams CB for Texas flashed some of his potential with a 90 yd. int. that he took back for a TD. Williams is so good that he may end up starting by the end of the season at CB as a true Freshman.I will check him out next time they play, but I must say over the past two seasons Texas has had some **** defensive backs. Compared to what they used to have in Ross and Michael Griffin. Last year was pathetic and they had very few playmakers.

Hopefully they got some big WRs once more on that team, they are getting to used to having these little fast guys when really they were at their best with the bigger players in Sweed and R. Williams catching the passes.

Still a shocker, Sweed basically not playing at all last year but because he is so big and so talented still got drafted quite high, wasn't it the freaking 2nd round. Not saying he is not good but still crazy impressive.

BamaFalcon59
09-28-2008, 08:44 PM
Update on the VT trio from the Nebraska game.

Stephan Virgil locked down his side of the field most of the night. Most of the passing yards were over the middle. He also blocked a punt and forced a fumble. Should be an All-American canidate (so far he has 2 int, 1 FR TD, 2 PT score, FF, blocked punt, and locks down his man).

John Graves had another good night stuffing the run. Marlon Lucky did nothing running the ball.

Darren Evans picked up two more touchdowns. I need to see some more explosiveness, but his vision and power are both outstanding qualities. He is leading the ACC in rushing touchdowns as a redshirt freshman with 6 in five games, and is fourth in rushing yards. 4.4 yards a carry is average, but he picks them up the tough way and really hurts teams when it counts- in the red zone and at the end of games.

MaxV
09-28-2008, 08:56 PM
For PSU the players that have the most NFL potential are DE Maurice Evans, DE Aaron Maybin (3-4 OLB), OLB Navorro Bowman, DT Jared Odrick (3-4 DE), CB AJ Wallace, RB Stephfon Green and WR Derrick Williams.

BamaFalcon59
09-28-2008, 09:03 PM
Yeah, those are just my favorite young players, or players who generally don't get a ton of attention from other people.

Ozzy
09-29-2008, 10:08 AM
Week 5
Dont'a Hightower FR OLB Alabama: Is this guy for real, what a freaking tank of a human being. He is easily one of the most promising OLB prospects for a 3/4 defense in college football. What a monster edge rusher with such great strength, just wow.


Michael Floyd FR WR Notre Dame: He is just outstanding, wonderful athlete, great size and plays the ball in the air as good as any receiver regardless of class. In a great system however but still, Floyd is just as good as other freshman star WRs in Jones and Green.


Robert Blanton FR CB Notre Dame: The Irish finally have a CB, finally! Blanton is a potential star, love his size, very smart young player and good open field tackler. Watch out for him, he could be a real good one.


David Bruton SR S Notre Dame: Most people are high on him and I see why, he plays with great range as a safety, makes big plays when need be and can simply cover ground. He is arguably the best free safety prospect in the draft.


Roy Upchurch JR RB Alabama: He impressed me against Georgia, he ran very well and looked hard to tackle in the open field, plus showed a burst he did not show previous years.


Rolando McClain SOPH ILB Alabama: Played a great game, is even better than last year and is arguably the best SOPH ILB prospect in the country, great size and seems to read plays very well.


Greg Boone JR TE Virginia Tech: Interesting prospect, such a huge man, why they do not get him the ball more often I do not know. However I must say hopefully they use him correctly in the next few years. Remember Jason Peters? I loved the kid at Arkansas and he was a huge TE, now he is a great OT for the Bills, interesting prospect.


Jason Worilds SOPH DE Virginia Tech: Looks solid, can get off the ball and shows some quickness.


Aaron Maybin SOPH DE Penn State: Just makes plays on the field, has a athletic body and gets good leverage despite being a small DE. Very interesting prospect especially as a OLB in a 3/4.


Stephfon Green FR RB Penn State: Great prospect, what great open field speed. Penn States backfield is clearly why they are such a dangerous offense.

Evan Royster SOPH RB Penn State: Played a lot better this season than he did last year, good quick little back with good toughness and just does things right. Green has by far more big play ability though but Royster is the glue guy.


Nate Swift SR WR Nebraska: Played a great game, has always been a really sure handed receiver and has played hard year in and year out. Does he have the ability to play in the NFL, he will sure get a shot.


Zach Potter SR DE Nebraska: Very promising prospect, has great size for a DE and really seems to be a solid athlete that can get off blocks. Not a great player but should get drafted as a project 3/4 DE.


Jacquizz Rodgers FR RB Oregon State: Obviously, the kid played great and people who say oh he is no NFL prospect, well guess what Darren Sproles is dangerous in the NFL and Rodgers is just like him. Wonderful toughness, unlike many other fast little running backs around the nation who are return men mostly, Rodgers is clearly legit.


Lyle Moevao JR QB Oregon State: Very interesting player, great attitude, tough player, seems like a good leader on the field. Love his release, has a strong arm, sure he is short as can be but very interesting prospect and could be a great backup in the NFL.


Al Afalava SR S Oregon State: Liked him in that game, he came up and made big hits and is a really form tackler. Interesting prospect at safety for sure.


Gary Gray SOPH CB Notre Dame: Physically the kid looks like a great CB, is not playing that wonderful but physically he has all the tools.


Armando Allen SOPH RB Notre Dame: Never looked good last year, this year he has shown some big flashes as a runner, and potentially could develop into a fine RB for the Irish, something they have not had in forever.


Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame SOPH: Not real high on him before the season, but I must say with Weis's offense and play calling, plus the great weapons he has in especially Floyd, Clausen is looking very good. At least he can throw a ball better than his damn brother Casey, captain Duck. He looked good and looked really under control and in charge on offense. Maybe he will turn out to be ok as a prospect. Obviously he will be good as a college player though, especially since the team overall is becoming much more talented.

ironman4579
09-29-2008, 10:25 AM
Brandon Graham with 6 tackles, 3 sacks, and 2 forced fumbles against Wisconsin.

BamaFalcon59
09-29-2008, 05:51 PM
Worilds ran a 4.46 in Spring. Very, very fast.

Boone is a tight end. He ran a 4.6 and played QB and S out of HS at like 260. Very athletic.

Ozzy
09-29-2008, 07:19 PM
Boone is a tight end. He ran a 4.6 and played QB and S out of HS at like 260. Very athletic.Seriously? That is impressive however Boone is not being very productive on that team, hopefully he increases his production. Just as an athlete he is a wonderful prospect.

BamaFalcon59
09-29-2008, 10:50 PM
Seriously? That is impressive however Boone is not being very productive on that team, hopefully he increases his production. Just as an athlete he is a wonderful prospect.

He was amazing, and productive, during the Spring. Right now we are just a rushing football team. But he should have two touchdowns right now if not for bad throws, and Tyrod missed him a couple times against Nebraska.

Race for the Heisman
09-30-2008, 10:19 AM
Does any freshman RB in the nation look like an every down NFL RB? That's my only point. Let's give him another year or two and see how he grows (physically and mentally) into the position. It's too early to start the talks of him becoming a slot receiver in the NFL. I'm enjoying the McGuffie show. Don't spoil it for me.

I know this is a little old and partially rhetorical, but John Clay (although he is a redshirt froshie).

Ozzy
09-30-2008, 11:24 AM
I know this is a little old and partially rhetorical, but John Clay (although he is a redshirt froshie).I agree with that, Clay looks like a beast but need to see way more of him. PJ Hill is not a fast or athletic player, Clay looks like he might actually be that.

However still fact is, Wisconsin turns out some horrible RBs over the years. Pretty sad when you consider the list.

Ron Dayne
Michael Bennett
Anthony Davis
Brian Calhoun

Pretty sad indeed.

Race for the Heisman
09-30-2008, 11:43 AM
I agree with that, Clay looks like a beast but need to see way more of him. PJ Hill is not a fast or athletic player, Clay looks like he might actually be that.

However still fact is, Wisconsin turns out some horrible RBs over the years. Pretty sad when you consider the list.

Ron Dayne
Michael Bennett
Anthony Davis
Brian Calhoun

Pretty sad indeed.

True, they've failed to live up to expectation as a whole (each probably should have been drafted 2-3 rounds lower), but I think Clay might, and I stress that, be the player that breaks the mould, kind of like Crabtree at Texas Tech. Obviously he needs to show more but he is a freshman and he's competing with PJ Hill (great college back at the very least) and Zach Brown who's also very good, so I can be patient.

Geomar
09-30-2008, 04:08 PM
No love for Graig Cooper sophomore RB from Miami or even WR senior Kayne Farquharson from miami? How about LB freshman Sean Spence from Miami?

Ozzy
09-30-2008, 08:22 PM
No love for Graig Cooper sophomore RB from Miami or even WR senior Kayne Farquharson from miami? How about LB freshman Sean Spence from Miami?Look in the previous posts from pervious weeks. Spence I agree is a beast, but I try not to put the same players week after week. As for Farquharson, not that impressed with him, he is ok but not that amazing.

And Cooper, again see previous posts but yes he is much, much better than he was last season!

Ozzy
10-01-2008, 10:48 AM
Week 5
Michael Turkovich SR OT Notre Dame: Where did he come from, he is a very solid offensive line prospects. Plays with power, is good in run blocking and pass protection, watch out for him, he is a sleeper.

Harrison Smith SOPH S Notre Dame: Could be a star in the future, has good size and is a good athlete. Wonderful at playing the pass and could be a great safety for them next year and an improving prospect.


Anthony Heygood SR LB Purdue: Great linebacker, easily will be taken on the 1st day. Lovely speed, converted RB I believe, is just a fine athlete and could be a great pro potentially.


Shane Carter SR S Wisconsin: Brother of the great Chris Carter, I know shocking, he is a solid playmaking safety, can play the pass very well and overall is a fine FS prospect in the later rounds.


Jonathan Casillas SR LB Wisconsin: Had a bad year last season, very small but this year he seems to play with more power, always has been quick but if he keeps it up his stock could really increase because last year was just not very good for him.


O'Brien Schofield JR DE Wisconsin: Fine rush end for the Badgers, is a possible ¾ OLB prospect in the future. Quick off the ball and knows how to get pressure on the QB.


Tremaine Johnson SR DE LSU: Shocked he is a backup, basically never heard of the guy but he looked good against Miss State, big kid, thick and showed fine quickness.


Kory Sheets SR RB Purdue: Played really bad last year, was not even the starter, but this season he is playing great. Keeps on his feet, shows great quickness and ability to make people miss in the open field, he is really improving his stock.


Kyle McCarthy SR S Notre Dame: A small safety, played behind Tom so he rarely saw the field. He is a good looking player though, could see times potentially as a special teams guy.

eaglesalltheway
10-01-2008, 10:54 AM
I don't know if you already did him yet, but the other safety from ND is considered a solid prospect. I can't remember his name right now, but I've heard him mentioned as a possible mid-round prospect.

Ozzy
10-01-2008, 11:47 AM
I don't know if you already did him yet, but the other safety from ND is considered a solid prospect. I can't remember his name right now, but I've heard him mentioned as a possible mid-round prospect.David Bruton, yeah he is on the other page, he is a stud and is having a wonderful year. On of the best FS prospects easily.

Cribbs>Hester
10-01-2008, 11:56 AM
True, they've failed to live up to expectation as a whole (each probably should have been drafted 2-3 rounds lower), but I think Clay might, and I stress that, be the player that breaks the mould, kind of like Crabtree at Texas Tech. Obviously he needs to show more but he is a freshman and he's competing with PJ Hill (great college back at the very least) and Zach Brown who's also very good, so I can be patient.


1) since when had Crabtree proven to "break the mold" he's not even in the NFL yet and you're pronouncing him a success?

2) I'm almost positive Zach Brown is no longer on the team

Ozzy
10-01-2008, 12:27 PM
Another comment, what about the possibility of Williams playing RB in the NFL? He is average in terms of speed at WR but would be above average in terms of speed as a RB. He makes good cuts just like a RB, has a solid build, can take a hit, I think it might be a good idea to possibly do that.

Even against Illinois most of his big plays came off of him running the football or catching it and making a play down field. His running ability in the open field is what is impressive, not his route running or his hands.

Guy like Harvin probably cannot play RB in the NFL but I think Williams is possibly big enough and strong enough.

Just a thought....

Race for the Heisman
10-01-2008, 12:47 PM
1) since when had Crabtree proven to "break the mold" he's not even in the NFL yet and you're pronouncing him a success?

2) I'm almost positive Zach Brown is no longer on the team

1. I didn't say Crabtree had proven anything nor that he would be a success in the NFL. That said, his numbers and physical ability are causing scouts to look past the system to see the player, which other TT receivers haven't forced scouts to do, hence 'break the mold.' I was really pointing out that Crabtree could break the mold, and Clay could do the same.

2) I don't really know much about Brown's situation so I can't comment on it, but it doesn't change the fact that he is a freshmen behind a guy who is a college star and he'll have to wait his turn. He's not quite that special (like Chris Wells showed [at least in terms of collegiate ability] in essentially forcing Pittman to declare early) that he can just usurp the number one spot.

Another comment, what about the possibility of Williams playing RB in the NFL? He is average in terms of speed at WR but would be above average in terms of speed as a RB. He makes good cuts just like a RB, has a solid build, can take a hit, I think it might be a good idea to possibly do that.

Even against Illinois most of his big plays came off of him running the football or catching it and making a play down field. His running ability in the open field is what is impressive, not his route running or his hands.

Guy like Harvin probably cannot play RB in the NFL but I think Williams is possibly big enough and strong enough.

Just a thought....

Juice ran a combine-certified 4.77 (and that was about 25 pounds ago) coming out of high school. His shuttle was very good at 4.19 and it could just be a matter or not being taught to run a 40 correctly, but I would be inclined to keep him at quarterback. I know a 40 isn't the end of the world but I do think it is worth something. I really think he has talent at the position (quarterback) and could pan out, whereas I don't think he's cut out to be a wide receiver or running back. Just my thoughts.

I will also add this tidbit. Juice Williams is every bit the physical prospect that Stafford is. I honestly look at him and see Donovan McNabb. I think he could reach the same heights (of McNabb) as a pro. He needs more work before he's on the same level as a prospect, but I think you do him a disservice by suggesting a position change will be necessary.

Ozzy
10-01-2008, 01:02 PM
I will also add this tidbit. Juice Williams is every bit the physical prospect that Stafford is. I honestly look at him and see Donovan McNabb. I think he could reach the same heights (of McNabb) as a pro. He needs more work before he's on the same level as a prospect, but I think you do him a disservice by suggesting a position change will be necessary.

My mistake, I mean Derrick Williams NOT Juice...

Even though the likelihood of Juice sticking around at QB is not very likely with his lack in accurately passing the ball. As for McNabb, no way in hell, Childress thought Jackson was like McNabb also. See how that worked out, I love a strong arm and athletic QB as much as the next guy but Juice just has a strong arm and is not very accurate and does not have great touch on his passes. Simply put can he make all the throws necessary and do so accurately? No. Has a shot though of course.

eaglesalltheway
10-01-2008, 01:04 PM
Ozzy, why do you take out the name of the poster in your quotes?

Ozzy
10-01-2008, 01:11 PM
Ozzy, why do you take out the name of the poster in your quotes?Oh come on, I just edit copy edit past and type the [QUOTE] manually, seriously is it that big of a deal? haha just read back like a page and a half.

eaglesalltheway
10-01-2008, 01:21 PM
Oh come on, I just edit copy edit past and type the [QUOTE] manually, seriously is it that big of a deal? haha just read back like a page and a half.

not a big deal at all, I was just wondering as you are the only one who does that. I was curious, t'was all.

Geomar
10-01-2008, 05:02 PM
Look in the previous posts from pervious weeks. Spence I agree is a beast, but I try not to put the same players week after week. As for Farquharson, not that impressed with him, he is ok but not that amazing.

And Cooper, again see previous posts but yes he is much, much better than he was last season!

Cooper just needed to add more muscle that was all. he wasn't so bad last year for a true freshman. (3rd best freshman RB season in our schools history) But he is definitely a lot better this year.

I like what I have seen from Farquharson. (P.S. keep him on your watch list) He's been making plays with the ball.


Spence is just flat out rediculous for a freshman LB'er.

MaxV
10-01-2008, 08:48 PM
Derrick Williams doesn't break tackles well enough to be a RB.

Race for the Heisman
10-02-2008, 12:35 PM
My bad on Derrick Williams. If I had read a little deeper I would have seen you say 'against Illinois' but I just sort of skimmed it and got the wrong impression.

Any way, looking forward to Pitt/USF tonight. LeSean McCoy has pretty much dropped off the face of the earth in terms of his name being bandied about so it'll interesting to see how he does against a decent opponent.

jnew76
10-04-2008, 04:31 PM
Damaryius Thomas - Soph - WR - Georgia Tech - 6'3" 230lbs. He was nothing short of amazing today... 9 Catches for 230 yards and a TD. The crazy thing is the QB was 9/14 for 230 yards. Yep... every completion made by Georgia tech was to Thomas! When has that ever happened?

BamaFalcon59
10-04-2008, 04:35 PM
Darren Evans had another 80 yards and two touchdowns today.

Eight touchdowns in six games for the redshirt freshman.

Ozzy
10-06-2008, 07:16 AM
Week 6
Jason Smith SR OT Baylor: Wonderful prospect, all he is cracked up to be, amazing quickness in the feet and hands. Really blocks aggressively, is good as a run blocker and pass protector. Could be a 1st round pick easy, totally has enough talent and potential.


William Moore SR S Missouri: Had some questions, but now without a doubt he will be the first safety taken in the draft, what a freak of a man. Huge size, big time hitter, and has amazing making speed, should be quite a player and top 15 pick.


Michael Morgan SOPH LB USC: Next great OLB at USC, wonderful looking athlete, got some time this week and looked great. Do not be surprised if he becomes a player a lot like Keith Rivers, he is that kind of an athlete.


Josh Pinkard SR CB/S USC: Amazing game at corner for Pinkard, nice to see and could be an interesting prospect at CB in the NFL. Anyway, CB or S he is versatile, resilient and determined coming off of two injury plagued seasons.


Tyron Smith FR OT USC: Next great OT at USC as well, amazing looking player, rock solid base and just is so fundamentally sound and physically promising, wonderful prospect.


Trevard Lindley JR CB Kentucky: Great looking cover corner, big long kid, moves really well and seems to play the ball well. I would not be surprised at all if he left for the draft this year.


Kellen Moore FR QB Boise State: Very impressive young signal caller, not standard pro potential skill, but interesting playmaker at his age and will be very promising to watch develop down the line.


Autsin Pettis SOPH WR Boise State: Huge kid, very strong and big and could be a fine target down the line, nice looking prospect.


Ian Johnson SR RB Boise State: Will surprise people, very consistent and could sneak it pretty high in the draft, especially since guys like Ray Rice got picked up earlier than expected. He can really do it all at RB.


Manuel Johnson SR WR Oklahoma: Obviously improving his stock, is the go to guy on OU, however that is scary considering some of the nomads that have been in the same position he is in, cannot argue with what he has done on the field though.


Ryan Reynolds JR LB Oklahoma: Big time playmaking LB, runs well and hits like a ton of bricks. I like his quickness and athletic ability.


Ross Homan JR LB Ohio State: Has kind of been on the sidelines a lot, but he showed up well against Wisconsin, good form guy and should be a good prospect come his senior year.


Travis Lewis FR LB Oklahoma: Standout freshman player for the Sooners, a big small and actually does look like a former RB. Nonetheless he makes plays all over the place and can really chase the ball.


Kendall Wright FR WR Baylor: Very interesting young prospect and one to keep a big eye on down the line, shows great speed, nice size and promising playmaking potential.


Robert Griffin FR QB Baylor: Another athletic QB, very raw but worth a shot, and he will sure get his. Great athlete and has potential in the NFL as an athlete at this point. Keep on the radar.


Toby Gerhart JR RB Stanford: Impressed with his toughness running the ball, could be a short yardage guy in the NFL, obviously not a great athlete but the kid can run hard and break tackles.


Justin Woodall JR S Alabama: Big time safety prospect, huge man on the field and covers a lot of ground. Should be one of the best come next season.


Kareem Jackson SOPH CB Alabama: Big play CB and he is showing it this year, what I like more best is that he is playing with great toughness on the field as well as playing the ball in the air.


Daniel Dufrene JR RB Illinois: Quick RB, very fast through the hole and is a prospect to watch down the line.


Bruce Johnson SR CB Miami FL: Sure he gets beat in coverage, but his coverage is usually right on, wish he played the ball better but still as a cover man he is one of the best. His ball skills are the only thing keeping him from being a great prospect, still damn good nonetheless.


Brian Orakpo SR OLB/DE Texas: See what everyone is talking about with him, huge pass rusher off the edge and one of the best OLB ¾ prospects around and could easily play down DE also.


David Gilreath SR WR Wisconsin: Where did he come from? He is a sure playmaker, shows great quickness and burst on the field and will totally get a look in the NFL when the season is over, sleeper prospect.


DeAndre Levy SR LB Wisconsin: Played one of the best games I have seen him play against Ohio State, showed wonderful toughness and speed in the open field. Greatly helps his draft stock for sure.


John Clay FR RB Wisconsin: Brought up before, but yeah he is a nice looking prospect, bad for PJ Hill though, Clay makes him look bad physically. He should be the starter very soon.


Fenuki Tupou SR OT Oregon: Huge man, wonderful power at OT and will be in the mix as a late round selection at OT, good prospect.


Ra'Shon Harris SR DT Oregon: He gets in the backfield quite often, shows good quickness for a very big man. Not a great prospect but should get a look and could surprise some people.


T.J. Ward JR S Oregon: Impressed me, showed good speed in the open field and has nice range as a safety. Very good looking prospect and should develop into a fine player.

Sniper
10-06-2008, 08:15 AM
Re: Dufrene. Kid's got some serious wheels. He punked Morgan Trent hard (then again, it's not that hard) and blew past everyone.

Ozzy
10-08-2008, 09:43 AM
Come on guys, let us talk some prospects here, you kind of disappoint me ;)


Someone give me some of your opinions of the guys I listed, I would love to hear them.

BamaFalcon59
10-08-2008, 10:01 AM
If you ever talk about VT prospects I will comment. But we played Western Kentucky last week and have a bye this week.

Some VT players that stood out in the Western Kentucky game...

Darren Evans, r-Fr RB: 2 rushing touchdowns, 80 yards. Will now be the full time starter due to Kenny Lewis tearing his achilles. Should get more carries now.

Victor Harris, Sr CB: Had an interception, returned to the five yard line. Also had some nice punt returns. Great prospect. 3 interceptions, 15 yards per punt return on the year in basically 4 games. Has everything needed in a CB.

Greg Boone, rJr TE: Had a beautiful 28-yard touchdown grab from Tyrod Taylor. He had lined up at wide receiver and ran down the seam, caught it in double coverage.

Tyrod Taylor: So QB: 9-0 as a starter. Great passer for this stage of development. Strong, fast, athletic. 6'1" 215, sufficient NFL QB size. Great deep ball. His numbers don't look great because our top 4 receivers are all freshman (3 true freshman, 1 redshirt freshman) and we always run the ball with Darren Evans inside the 20. He's progressing nicely.

georgiafan
10-08-2008, 10:26 AM
I'll agree with you on Robert Griffin who seems like a lock to be the best Baylor QB of all time. Which might not be saying alot, but you get the point. He still has time to work on his passing.

Race for the Heisman
10-08-2008, 10:48 AM
If you ever talk about VT prospects I will comment. But we played Western Kentucky last week and have a bye this week.

Some VT players that stood out in the Western Kentucky game...

Darren Evans, r-Fr RB: 2 rushing touchdowns, 80 yards. Will now be the full time starter due to Kenny Lewis tearing his achilles. Should get more carries now.

Victor Harris, Sr CB: Had an interception, returned to the five yard line. Also had some nice punt returns. Great prospect. 3 interceptions, 15 yards per punt return on the year in basically 4 games. Has everything needed in a CB.

Greg Boone, rJr TE: Had a beautiful 28-yard touchdown grab from Tyrod Taylor. He had lined up at wide receiver and ran down the seam, caught it in double coverage.

Tyrod Taylor: So QB: 9-0 as a starter. Great passer for this stage of development. Strong, fast, athletic. 6'1" 215, sufficient NFL QB size. Great deep ball. His numbers don't look great because our top 4 receivers are all freshman (3 true freshman, 1 redshirt freshman) and we always run the ball with Darren Evans inside the 20. He's progressing nicely.

What about Kam Chancellor? I've been intrigued by him but his stats aren't fantastic through the first couple of games (obviously not everything but a barometer nonetheless). How is he being utilized; I haven't really been able to see much Hokie football?

BamaFalcon59
10-08-2008, 12:28 PM
What about Kam Chancellor? I've been intrigued by him but his stats aren't fantastic through the first couple of games (obviously not everything but a barometer nonetheless). How is he being utilized; I haven't really been able to see much Hokie football?

Well, he switched positions from rover to free safety. He can play every position on the defense, but he's much better utilized at rover, where he can blitz and roam the field. At free he has been solid in coverage, but really hasn't made the game changing hits and plays he did last year. He also missed some tackles early on in the season.

He will still be a first round pick due to intangibles and potential, and his play isn't bad. But if he stays and plays his senior year at rover he should go top 10.

Ozzy
10-08-2008, 01:02 PM
Well, he switched positions from rover to free safety. He can play every position on the defense, but he's much better utilized at rover, where he can blitz and roam the field. At free he has been solid in coverage, but really hasn't made the game changing hits and plays he did last year. He also missed some tackles early on in the season.

He will still be a first round pick due to intangibles and potential, and his play isn't bad. But if he stays and plays his senior year at rover he should go top 10.Ok first off BamaFalcon59, how there is a VT lover in Alabama is beyond me. Also, wouldn't you say it might be a bit biased if you can only talk about Virginia Tech prospects? I am all for following a school but come on now.

As for Chancellor like you said, he is not playing all that well this year but physically he is just outstanding. Surprised they moved him back to FS because their SS does not impress me at all and he has the physical size to be a SS and make big plays. He is not a pass coverage safety, but guess he is fast and USC does the same thing with Mays. Totally different though because USC has a standout SS, unlike Virginia Tech.

As for playing any position in the defensive backfield, I do not buy that at all, he cannot play CB and I have never seen him do it. And he has played LB? If so when?



georgiafan I'll agree with you on Robert Griffin who seems like a lock to be the best Baylor QB of all time. Which might not be saying alot, but you get the point. He still has time to work on his passing.
Yeah, his physical tools are just amazing, what a great athlete. However, sadly he is a lot like Reggie McNeal, but McNeal had a stronger arm, but Griffin is a bigger stronger athlete. Amazing potential but rarely do players like him turn out in the end. Interesting to watch though.

BamaFalcon59
10-08-2008, 01:56 PM
Ok first off BamaFalcon59, how there is a VT lover in Alabama is beyond me. Also, wouldn't you say it might be a bit biased if you can only talk about Virginia Tech prospects? I am all for following a school but come on now.

As for Chancellor like you said, he is not playing all that well this year but physically he is just outstanding. Surprised they moved him back to FS because their SS does not impress me at all and he has the physical size to be a SS and make big plays. He is not a pass coverage safety, but guess he is fast and USC does the same thing with Mays. Totally different though because USC has a standout SS, unlike Virginia Tech.

As for playing any position in the defensive backfield, I do not buy that at all, he cannot play CB and I have never seen him do it. And he has played LB? If so when?


Lol, dude don't question me on VT prospects.

He played QB in highschool. He was a 2 star prospect. He came in, played CB as a true freshman, no redshirt needed. Do you know how hard that is? A 2 star QB going straight to CB and not redshirting at VT? The next year he went to rover and started as a true sophmore. Then this year he plays free safety.

As for LB, that has never been his designated position. But as a rover, he has carried out very LB like assignments. Our defensive backs coach has said he is the only player on the team who can go from CB to safety to LB to putting his hand down at end at any time. He's that type of athlete.

And he has some of the best intangibles I have seen as far as hard work and leadership is concerned.

ON KAM CHANCELLOR’S TALENT AND THE WAY HE PICKS THINGS UP QUICKLY, PLAYING HIS THIRD POSITION IN THREE YEARS: “It amazes me because of his size. For a kid his size to be able to come in and even fathom playing cornerback as a true freshman … his learning curve was phenomenal. Then the size he is, obviously, he doesn’t look like everybody else. I said last year he was probably the best athlete on our team because he was one guy who could probably play quarterback or wide receiver, then come over to defense and play from corner to defensive end. I don’t think anybody else could do that. I’m always amazed. I’m still amazed by what he’s able to do at the size he is. He’s kind of a phenomenal, freakish athlete, but because he’s so smart, too, and he gets it and he’s very coachable, he’s able to go from corner to rover to free safety and pick it up and play.”

ON BEING A FORMER FREE SAFETY HIMSELF, A STAR AT THE POSITION, HOW GOOD DOES HE THINK CHANCELLOR CAN BE: “Well, I said when he was a freshman, assuming he’d move to safety, that he would probably be the best safety that ever played here. And I think he will leave Virginia Tech as the best safety that ever played here. And probably be drafted higher than any safety ever at Tech.”

ON WHAT, EXACTLY, MAKES CHANCELLOR SO SPECIAL: “He’s just a great, great person, first of all. So he’s a natural leader. He’s got all this God-given ability, but he works harder than anybody else. He’s a humble kid. And he accepts being a leader. It’s just all the intangibles. He goes to class, all that. You take a lot of kids with his talent and they take things for granted, or they feel above some things. He has none of that petty stuff that comes along with what he gives you as an athlete.”

Sniper
10-08-2008, 02:21 PM
***Homer alert***

Michigan redshirt sophomore MLB Obi Ezeh is a boss. He's fourth in the Big 10 in tackles, and third amongst linebackers in tackles for loss with 6.0 behind Illinois' Brit Miller (11.0, leads the conference) and Navorro Bowman (7.5). It's only his second year playing LB, but he has drastically improved. Needs work on the pass though.

Oh by the way, Michigan DE Brandon Graham has 25 tackles, 10.5 TFL for 53 yards, 5.0 sacks for 33 yards and two forced fumbles. He's awesome.

Ozzy
10-08-2008, 07:43 PM
He played QB in highschool. He was a 2 star prospect. He came in, played CB as a true freshman, no redshirt needed. Do you know how hard that is? A 2 star QB going straight to CB and not redshirting at VT? The next year he went to rover and started as a true sophmore. Then this year he plays free safety.

As for LB, that has never been his designated position. But as a rover, he has carried out very LB like assignments. Our defensive backs coach has said he is the only player on the team who can go from CB to safety to LB to putting his hand down at end at any time. He's that type of athlete.He did play CB huh? I would have loved to see it, was it as a nickle? He does not strike me as a ball hawk cover man what so ever. If he is that, good for him and he could be a great prospect, but if he is not that could cause problems. Fine player though, but might suggest do not get too focused on VT prospects, might alter your overall perception of things possibly.

Ozzy
10-14-2008, 08:16 AM
Week 7 prospect standouts
Eric Decker JR WR Minnesota: Mentioned him before, he is just a standout, even as a freshman he showed great route running ability and marvelous hands. Now he is bigger, faster and stronger as a receiver, catches everything near him and is tough and nails, can take hits, breaks tackles and catch the ball in traffic. Outstanding receiver and one of the best not only in the Big Ten but the nation.


Simoni Lawrence JR LB Minnesota: Standout JUCO transfer, one of the best linebackers in the Big Ten, and could be a perfect linebacker in a Tampa 2 style defense in the NFL. Former safety, is a wonderful pass rusher despite his small size, has great speed and packs a big punch every time he makes a tackle.


Chase Coffman SR TE Missour: Wow, what a player, the way this kid runs, catches the ball and can literally jump over defenders. He is easily the top TE prospect, should be a lock 1st round pick and really be a fine player in the NFL. Wonderful prospect and his stock is really rising for sure with his great play.


Adam Weber SOPH QB Minnesota: Rising young signal caller, has a accurate throwing arm, is a tough kid and confident leader. Still needs some time to develop but he is a very interesting prospect with how well he manages the game and gets the ball wear it needs to be.


Ryan Broyles FR WR Oklahoma: Really has nice balance as a receiver, quick, changes directions really well and has wonderful speed. Should be a real big play receiver in the near future if he keeps the off the field issues to a minimum.


Dez Bryant SOPH WR Oklahoma St.: Big time receiver, tall kid, deceptively strong and has wonderful speed in the open field. Also despite being quite skinny, will make catches in traffic and is not afraid to get hit, he is a big time WR prospect.


Earl Thomas FR SS Texas: Potential star, has wonderful speed as a safety, really moves well on the field and his built like a SS. Lookout for him in the near future.


Blake Gideon FR FS Texas: Another potential superstar safety for the Horns, he really can cover ground, looks very sound in pass coverage, plays with great technique and does not miss many tackles. He will be a superstar on the Horns and a standout prospect in a short period of time.


Elvis Fisher FR OT Missouri: Will be a star in the future, outstanding young OT, plays the game really well and just moves people around as a blocker, wonderful prospect and remember his name.


Russell Okung JR OT Oklahoma St.: He is a great OT prospect, really looks the part and has a great physical base as an OT. Really powerful arms, stays in control of who he is blocking and should be a top flight OT come next years draft.


Quan Cosby SR WR Texas: Had a real breakout game against Oklahoma, has always been good as s receiver but he made some amazing catches in that game, played the game with passion and showed the ability to make catches in traffic despite being a small receiver. He is really increasing his draft stock right now.


DeLeon Eskridge FR RB Minnesota: Great feet as a RB, makes good cuts, has nice balance and if a prospect to keep an eye one, has performed really well this season.


Jaron Baston JR DT Missouri: Really impressive DT, big guy, low center of gravity and looks the part of a fine NT in the NFL. If he keeps up this level of play he will be a standout defensive tackle come next years draft. That is if he does not come out early this year.


Traye Simmons JR CB Minnesota: Another JUCO standout for Minnesota, solid corner, good tackler and should get a look come next year in the draft, he is that good of an athlete.


Willie VanDeSteeg SR OLB/DE Minnesota: Interesting prospect, will be a sleeper in the draft, he can really get to the QB, has a constant motor as a pass rusher. If he can make the move to OLB in a ¾ his stock will greatly increase, nonetheless he simply can get to the QB.


Chris Ogbonnaya SR RB Texas: Good looking prospect, not a great player but interesting, has good breakaway speed and big play ability. Might be worth a look later on in the draft.


Zac Robinson JR QB Oklahoma St.: Really has improved over last season, is seeing the field better, not running as much and is showing a real great ability to make plays down the field passing. He seems totally in control, and one cannot forget his amazing athletic ability, he even makes legitimate blocks down field as a QB, very impressive prospect and his stock is really rising.


Jacob Lacey SR CB Oklahoma St.: Solid cover man, not great but hits hard and has nice size should get a look come draft time.


Andre Sexton JR OLB/SS Oklahoma St.: Tagged him as a freshman, not moved to linebacker but the kid can simply run and hit. Very smart play, plays the game correctly and with his speed and versatility watch out for him next year.


Ugo Chinasa SOPH DE Oklahoma St.: Sleeper pass rusher, big long kid, always seems to get penetration and is a fine looking prospect. Watch out for him in the future for sure.


Kendall Hunter SOPH RB Oklahoma St.: Small kid obviously, but really can change direction, take a hit and make yards down field. Is one of the better running backs in a very strong SOPH class.


Derrick Washington SOPH RB Missouri: Fine looking RB prospect, big tall kid, nice size, wonderful pass catching ability out of the backfield really separates him from everyone else. Strong runner as well and he should be a great prospect in two years.


Colin Brown SR OT Missouri: Huge kid, massive OT and is very strong, plays the game well and should be drafted this year in the draft, just too big and strong not to be a factor in the game.


Stryler Sulak SR DE/OLB Missouri: Standout ¾ OLB prospect, not many talk of him but he has been consistently getting to the QB his entire career, great use of his hands and quickness to get around blockers. Is a sleeper prospect but do not be surprised if he turns out to be very good.




Other notes: Chase Daniel really did not impress me against Oklahoma State, who is going to have a QB in the NFL constantly stand back in a shot gun set and throw little 10-15 yard passes? Honestly, not that impressive, just will be a very odd QB in the NFL, probably a great backup because he works hard and is smart but I would seriously doubt he is a star in the NFL based on how he throws the ball in college. His offensive lineman and receivers are much more impressive than he is, sound familiar Sam?

Race for the Heisman
10-14-2008, 08:57 AM
Other notes: Chase Daniel really did not impress me against Oklahoma State, who is going to have a QB in the NFL constantly stand back in a shot gun set and throw little 10-15 yard passes? Honestly, not that impressive, just will be a very odd QB in the NFL, probably a great backup because he works hard and is smart but I would seriously doubt he is a star in the NFL based on how he throws the ball in college. His offensive lineman and receivers are much more impressive than he is, sound familiar Sam?

Alright, I love Troy Smith, but that strikes me as more ammunition to legitimize the Troy Smith comparison with Chase Daniel. Smith threw to three first rounds (Holmes, Ginn, Gonzalez), a fourth rounder (Hall), and at least three other guys likely to be drafted (while limited shared time: Robiskie, Hartline, Small). Chase has two fourths (Franklin, Rucker), a probably first (Maclin), a probable second (Coffman), and another mid-round guy in Danario Alexander. Admittedly not quite as impressive as Smith's gaggle, but it does lend some credence to the comparison.

Ozzy
10-14-2008, 09:23 AM
Race for the Heisman: Alright, I love Troy Smith, but that strikes me as more ammunition to legitimize the Troy Smith comparison with Chase Daniel. Smith threw to three first rounds (Holmes, Ginn, Gonzalez), a fourth rounder (Hall), and at least three other guys likely to be drafted (while limited shared time: Robiskie, Hartline, Small). Chase has two fourths (Franklin, Rucker), a probably first (Maclin), a probable second (Coffman), and another mid-round guy in Danario Alexander. Admittedly not quite as impressive as Smith's gaggle, but it does lend some credence to the comparison.I have no problem with a player using the talent around him, I have a problem with a QB that seems to only throw 10-15 yard short outs or screen passes all game long. That I have a problem with, and no it is not a Troy Smith comparison because Troy Smith at least threw the ball down field, something quite important in the NFL. Most of Daniels yards seem to come with yards after the catch, which is the receiver doing all the work, not him.

He has a quick release, makes good choices, is smart but you need a much better arm in the NFL to succeed. Thus I was very disappointed in what I saw. Everything else is great though. It is like, ok freaking Brad Smith threw the ball down field more than Chase Daniel does.

And no way is Coffman a second round talent at TE, he is just as good as some TEs drafted in the first round over the past few years.

thenewfeature06
10-14-2008, 06:04 PM
i guess we'll see if hes legit when they go down to TEXAS to faceoff against the longhorns... in what i call... REDEMPTION

Race for the Heisman
10-15-2008, 08:58 AM
I have no problem with a player using the talent around him, I have a problem with a QB that seems to only throw 10-15 yard short outs or screen passes all game long. That I have a problem with, and no it is not a Troy Smith comparison because Troy Smith at least threw the ball down field, something quite important in the NFL. Most of Daniels yards seem to come with yards after the catch, which is the receiver doing all the work, not him.

He has a quick release, makes good choices, is smart but you need a much better arm in the NFL to succeed. Thus I was very disappointed in what I saw. Everything else is great though. It is like, ok freaking Brad Smith threw the ball down field more than Chase Daniel does.

And no way is Coffman a second round talent at TE, he is just as good as some TEs drafted in the first round over the past few years.

I think Chase throws the ball downfield enough that, at least for me, it is not a huge problem. I think if he were throwing 40 or 50 passes a game like some other spread quarterbacks are, there would be a lot smaller sample size in terms of downfield passes (I don't know, that almost sounds counter-intuitive), but as it is he throws downfield enough that I'm not worried about it, similar to the way you weren't concerned about Smith, at least from that perspective. I think his arm of okay. It'll be enough to succeed in the NFL a la Brian Griese but there will be a noticeable difference.

As far as Coffman, I agree he has the talent to be a first round player, I just think the other quality tight ends in this class will make him a second-round choice if he goes in this draft class, which he kind of has to.

SeanTaylorRIP
10-15-2008, 09:09 AM
I like Chase Daniel a lot on the collegiate level, but I don't really even look at him as a pro prospect.

Ozzy
10-15-2008, 09:26 AM
(I don't know, that almost sounds counter-intuitive), but as it is he throws downfield enough that I'm not worried about it, similar to the way you weren't concerned about Smith, at least from that perspective. I think his arm of okay. It'll be enough to succeed in the NFL a la Brian Griese but there will be a noticeable difference.Thing is I hated Brad Smith as a QB prospect, and I never thought he could play QB when most people said he could. The point being, if I disliked Smith as a QB and he threw the ball down field better than Daniel, how in the world could I like Daniel? The guy has everything wanted in a QB, only negative is his horrible arm strength and inability to throw deep passes. No one wants a QB like that, absolutely no one. Look how limited the Patriots are with Cassel's inability to throw a good deep ball, no one wants a offensive that easy to defend and that is what Daniel would provide, a easy offense to defend. He will be a backup at best.

Ozzy
10-21-2008, 11:32 AM
Week 8 prospect standouts
Jerrod Johnson SOPH QB Texas A&M: Wow, that kid is a special looking player, what is best about him is his quick feet in the pocket and ability to move around. He does not seem to be one of those large athletic QBs that will just tuck the ball and run at any sign of trouble. He has a great looking arm and down the line I bet he is just as good of a prospect if not better than Josh Freeman.


Stephen Garcia FR QB South Carolina: Talk about a coming out party, wow that kid was impressive against LSU. Has a great arm, obviously can run the football and move around, is built well physically. Steve might have finally found his great QB, watch out for him as a prospect, he could be one of the best in the nation if he keeps his head straight and does not get into any more trouble with the law.


Dexter McCluster JR WR Ole Miss: This guy is going to be a big time playmaker and a big time draft prospect. He has amazing open field speed, and has just wonderful quickness and change of direction ability. Come his senior season, he should be just a great looking player, especially with the great QB he has getting him the ball. Just wait, he will be a big time prospect because of his quickness and ability to make people miss tackling him.


Shaun Draughn SOPH RB UNC: Talk about coming out of no where, had shown great burst of speed through the hole, really quick, runs hard and aggressively. Should be a very promising prospect down the line, fine looking runner.


Willie Young JR DE NC State: Had a real standout game against Florida State, sure it was against a freshman OT though. Has real good quickness off the edge, and is a impressive looking athlete. His stock is rising for sure and could be a major player come the 2010 draft.


Jared Cook JR WR South Carolina: He is really playing well, and showing great open field speed at his size, ok forget the Hank Baskett thing, Cook is almost turning into a legit Plaxico type receiver with his amazing height, long arms and big strong base. Could be a big time prospect whenever he comes out.


Derrick Morgan SOPH DE Georgia Tech: Wow, now I see why everyone is talking about him, what a fine looking athlete. And that front 7 four Georgia Tech, talk about talented!


Peria Jerry SR DT Ole Miss: He is a real good player and one of the top DTs easily, shows great quickness, can simply beat his man off the ball and get into the backfield. Depending on what happens, I would not be shocked if he could maybe be a 1st round pick, considering the lack luster DTs coming out, Jerry has star potential most others do not.


Rahim Alem JR DE LSU: He will be a big time pass rushing prospect either in this years draft of next, has great quickness off the ball and really knows how to get penetration into the pocket.


Rodney Hudson SOPH OG FSU: Really impressive OG, can block well in space and is just great at getting to the second level making blocks downfield. Should be a great prospect down the line, just a fine looking athlete on the offensive line.


Jason Barnes FR WR South Carolina: Nice potential big play receiver on South Carolina, comparisons will be made with Rice, even though he is not as tall or as fast, still really promising young target who has great size and athletic ability.


Tyson Jackson SR DE LSU: He is just such a good DE prospect, despite his size, he plays with his hands and has the quickness of a 250 pound speed rusher. Massive man, has consistently been dominate for a very long time year after year, should be a top 20 draft pick considering what he has done at LSU.


Jarriel King JR OT South Carolina: Watch out, he got some playing time against LSU and did well, listed as a DL, but looked good at tackle and has the size for the position. Will be interesting to see if he gets more time, very interesting looking prospect.


John Jerry JR OT Ole Miss: Potentially the next great OT at Ole Miss, huge man, just massive and can just simply block.


Ryan Palmer SR CB Texas: Physically he looks very impressive, seems to be very sound tackling in the open field and is good at making plays on the ball when the opportunity is there. Could get drafted as a 2nd day player.


Ryan Tannehill FR WR Texas A&M: Promising young player, big tall kid, obvious comparisons would be made to a certain former Penn State WR, but still he has shown decent playmaking ability and is one to watch down the line.


Jarrett Lee FR QB LSU: Really quit a interesting QB prospect, seems to have a good head on his shoulders, does not let much get to him and has a extremely quick release. Will be worth watching his career and seeing how he develops, the QB position is in solid hands for sure though for the next few years at LSU.


Joseph Barksdale SOPH OT LSU: Next great offensive lineman at LSU, plays with great power, is a nasty blocker and will only get better in time, outstanding young prospect.

Solomon
10-21-2008, 11:48 AM
Dez Bryant SOPH WR Oklahoma St.: Big time receiver, tall kid, deceptively strong and has wonderful speed in the open field. Also despite being quite skinny, will make catches in traffic and is not afraid to get hit, he is a big time WR prospect.


He's listed at 6-2, 210 lbs so he's pretty big. He looks pretty cut in this pic.

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/57/573142.jpg

Ozzy
10-21-2008, 12:18 PM
Solomon: He's listed at 6-2, 210 lbs so he's pretty big. He looks pretty cut in this pic.I have never been one to purposefully try to find pictures of a athletic prospect to prove he is "ripped". Ok yes he is 210, but on the field he looked a little thin, maybe it was just because it was on TV. Or maybe it was because he went down like a skinny less physically strong WR would. Not saying he is a bad player, he is great but he sure can get knocked around physically, and that is because he is strong? Usually because they are strong they knock other players around. Still love him as a prospect, but I was saying what I saw and he looked skinny and played like a skinny WR would. Not really that bad of a thing though, just saying.

Solomon
10-21-2008, 12:21 PM
I have never been one to purposefully try to find pictures of a athletic prospect to prove he is "ripped". Ok yes he is 210, but on the field he looked a little thin, maybe it was just because it was on TV. Or maybe it was because he went down like a skinny less physically strong WR would. Not saying he is a bad player, he is great but he sure can get knocked around physically, and that is because he is strong? Usually because they are strong they knock other players around. Still love him as a prospect, but I was saying what I saw and he looked skinny and played like a skinny WR would. Not really that bad of a thing though, just saying.

You described him as "deceptively strong"

Ozzy
10-21-2008, 12:57 PM
You described him as "deceptively strong"Exactly, his strength is deceptive, because you would think he could punish tackles with his strength but he does not, yes your muscle man picture is great but... Again, he kind of plays like a skinny WR and gets tackled like one. Not really all that interested in playing semantics though.

I thought he looked skinny, turns out he is heavier than he plays and stronger according to your muscle man picture, still fact is I explained what I saw.

DiG
10-21-2008, 01:24 PM
dont forget DHB this week. terps finally decided to throw his way for once.

11 catches 105 yards 1 td. a lot of that was against alphonso smith too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCu-7pQ_jv8

Ozzy
10-21-2008, 01:36 PM
Dirty Thirty: dont forget DHB this week. terps finally decided to throw his way for once.

11 catches 105 yards 1 td. a lot of that was against alphonso smith too.
Oh please, everyone knows about him! haha ;o) I had him number one receiver in his class ever since I saw him play as a freshman. Yes it is nice to see him have good games, but the kid is a player and anyone that cannot see that should look again. Be interesting to see if he comes out early or not.

georgiafan
10-21-2008, 02:13 PM
I didn't get to watch a lot of games, but Reshad Jones from UGA had his best game of his career. He had 8 tackles (5 solo) with a interception. The weak part of his game is coverage and he did much better in that area. He has the more upside then anyone on the UGA defense so it's nice to see him play so good. He is a redshirt sophmore.

SeanTaylorRIP
10-21-2008, 02:40 PM
No love for Darrius Heyward-Bey? He showed how great of a receiver he would be if he actually had consistent QB play. Bey had 101 yards receiving and a TD on 11 receptions. That was all against Alphonso Smith who some have pegged as a top 15 selection in the upcoming draft. More impressive is that it was basically all in the first half because Maryland went into Terps mode in the second half with the lead and ran the ball every play.

Ozzy
10-21-2008, 02:45 PM
SeanTaylorRIP: No love for Darrius Heyward-Bey? He showed how great of a receiver he would be if he actually had consistent QB play. Bey had 101 yards receiving and a TD on 11 receptions. That was all against Alphonso Smith who some have pegged as a top 15 selection in the upcoming draft. More impressive is that it was basically all in the first half because Maryland went into Terps mode in the second half with the lead and ran the ball every play.I say again I had Heyward Bey pegged as the #1 receiver in his class ever since he was a freshman. For one I did not see that game, and secondly, I do not think it is a surprise he is doing well at all. Top of the line receiver prospect without question.

DoWnThEfiElD
10-21-2008, 03:47 PM
I think Dez Bryant and Eric Berry are setting themselves up to be high 2010 draft picks...

LonghornsLegend
10-21-2008, 07:28 PM
Earl Thomas FR SS Texas: Potential star, has wonderful speed as a safety, really moves well on the field and his built like a SS. Lookout for him in the near future.


Blake Gideon FR FS Texas: Another potential superstar safety for the Horns, he really can cover ground, looks very sound in pass coverage, plays with great technique and does not miss many tackles. He will be a superstar on the Horns and a standout prospect in a short period of time.


I'm late but I just wanted to chime in on these two guys, what a surprise they have been thus far, we have done a great job pulling in corners and DB's in years past so I was excited for these guys coming in, but first off Earl Thomas plays like a Senior...He has good awareness, fast, and he knows how to make plays on the ball, obviously his job is easier with out front 7 but he's not scared to make a play.


Gideon is a tough nosed hard hitting guy thats fun to watch, I thought Ben Wells was gonna end up taking this spot as he is another very talented freshman Safety but Gideon has played well enough to keep his job...Counting Aaron Williams we are starting 3 true freshman in the secondary, it's nice to see these guys grow up because in 3 years they will be the strength of the team.

Ozzy
10-22-2008, 09:46 AM
Gideon is a tough nosed hard hitting guy thats fun to watch, I thought Ben Wells was gonna end up taking this spot as he is another very talented freshman Safety but Gideon has played well enough to keep his job...Counting Aaron Williams we are starting 3 true freshman in the secondary, it's nice to see these guys grow up because in 3 years they will be the strength of the team.Completely agree, they are going to be rock solid for them and a real strength. Too bad Muschamp is gone after this year, bet ya anything. Nonetheless, Gideon is a stud, outstanding young safety prospect, not many safeties look as good as he does this early on.

Ozzy
10-23-2008, 08:20 AM
Week 8 prospect standouts
Mark Herzlich JR OLB Boston College: I remember him from last season, just a stone cold playmaker, basically lives in the opponent’s backfield. Wonderful pass rusher as a OLB, just simply wonderful and is the ideal candidate to be a ¾ OLB.


Thomas Claiborne SOPH OG Boston College: Looks like a fine OG for the future, could be even better than Josh Beekman was, is kind of built similar to him, I love his mobility on the field, plays quick and is a powerful blocker. He can also be a pulling guard something he is very effective at doing.


B.J. Raji SR NT Boston College: Kind of disappeared last year because of injuries, but he is back at full force now, simply is a fine player and has been good for a very long time. Big huge man, plays with great quickness, can really eat up blockers and make plays behind the line of scrimmage. He will be one of the better DTs taken in the draft.


Anthony Castonzo SOPH OT Boston College: Never great OT to come out of BC, is a huge kid but not slow at all, has very good quick feet and hands. Does a good job staying infront of his man and should be a top notch OT prospect in two years.


Brandon Williams JR DE Texas Tech: I was impressed with this speedy edge rusher, does not play with great power but is a lengthy kid that can get around the corner. Should be an interesting prospect coming down the line, a project player but worth a shot.


Chris Crane SR QB Boston College: He sure is taking advantage of the chance he has been given. Crane plays the game well, moves in the pocket and has a real gun slinger mentality. Throws a nice deep ball and has a pretty quick release. As a project backup QB in the NFL he is really going to get some interest.


Sedric Griffin JR LB Georgia Tech: Have not seen much of him, but he really plays fast, runs around all over the field making plays, he is one to keep an eye on.


Jonathan Dwyer SOPH FB Georgia Tech: Solid looking young runner, tough player, does not go down easy. Could be a very interesting full back at the next level because he would be versatile enough to carry the football and catch it out of the backfield.


Ron Brace SR DT Boston College: A sound DT prospect, is not a major player but is big, strong and has potential, could be a late round selection.


Rich Lapham SOPH OT Boston College: Big huge kid, his size is what impresses the most because of the potential power he has. Nonetheless, he is pretty slow and does get beat by faster players at times. Still one to keep an eye on though, and should get much better with more playing time.

SMoore
10-23-2008, 10:42 AM
Alright two things. Wasn't Costanzo a little small going into BC? Has he put on a lot of weight yet? And Raji was ineligible last year I think. I don't think he was hurt. I could be wrong.

Race for the Heisman
10-23-2008, 11:52 AM
These are a bit late, but:

Andre Brown - RB - North Carolina State - He runs with good power and patience. He has decent wiggle, pretty good vision, and okay burst through the hole. I think he could get picked up mid/late a la Tony Hunt as someone's specialty back.

Russell Wilson - QB - North Carolina State - Just a freshman, but great arm strength and a pass-first mentality despite being a phenomenal athlete. Very rough, but one to keep an eye on.

Christian Ponder - QB - Florida State - Showed flashes of greatness. Reminds me of older option quarterbacks in the way he runs, a tiny bit like Kirk Herbstreit.

Myron Rolle - Safety - Florida State - He reminds me of James Laurinaitis in the way that he is always around the ball, just not necessarily always the first one to make a play. He gets too much hate here, not unlike Laurinaitis.

Other guys who caught my eye:
Preston Parker
Marcus Sims
??? Rieskap?
Justin Byers
NC State Center
Jamele Eugene
Willy Young
DeAndre Morgan
Bert Reed
Graham Gano

Ray Small - Really helped his stock, which was negligible for the most part, by figuring out how to return punts. He's benefited from a few dodgy calls (v Ohio) and lucky bounces (v Michigan State), but he's in the draft window now if he comes out. I think.

Malcolm Jenkins - I wasn't entirely sold. I mean, I really liked him, but that was it. Now I think he's bordering on elite, with the scale tipping toward yes. Everything you could possibly want is there in terms of his play, it just comes down to the Combine and perhaps the Senior Bowl.

Rob Rose
Thaddeus Gibson

Lawrence Wilson - Really sucks to be him. I think he will still get picked up late, but I can't help but feel bad for a guy who had two back-to-back season ending injuries (of a different variety, so that helps his stock a bit).

Shaun Lane - I can't explain it, I just like him. I doubt he's even on the UDFA radar, but I feel he could be a good player relative to being a seventh round pick/UDFA. As is, if he even tries to go pro, he probably won't get a real shot and bounce around for a few months before bowing out, but I would hope better for him.

Charlie Gantt
Brandon Long
Greg Jones
Kirk Cousins

Anderson Russell - Awful hands, but he breaks on the ball well.

Evan Royster - Beast. Something about him reminds me of Maurice Clarett. I know they are built totally different but I think it's a bit of the running style, maybe a bit of the situation, but its there, at least for me.

Anthony Scirotto

Ogbonnaya - Maybe like what Selvin Young might have been if he hadn't had so many issues. Late round prospect who could still have a good career in the right system with the right team.

Colt McCoy
Ziggy Hood
Jared Cook
Eric Norwood
Keiland Williams
Stephen Garcia
USCarolina Right Tackle

Sniper
10-23-2008, 11:58 AM
Brandon Minor: 23 carries, 117 yards, 5.1 ypc, 2 TD against Penn State this past weekend. He's a pretty good pass protector as well. The only drawback is he fumbles too much. However, he's still averaging 5.6 ypc this year.

keylime_5
10-23-2008, 12:07 PM
Lawrence Wilson - Really sucks to be him. I think he will still get picked up late, but I can't help but feel bad for a guy who had two back-to-back season ending injuries (of a different variety, so that helps his stock a bit).


at least lawrence will have another season of college football to improve his stock. Sucks to break your left leg one year then tear your right acl the next though for any player. If he has a good year in 2009 I think he could be a late round pick.

eaglesalltheway
10-23-2008, 02:43 PM
Brandon Minor: 23 carries, 117 yards, 5.1 ypc, 2 TD against Penn State this past weekend. He's a pretty good pass protector as well. The only drawback is he fumbles too much. However, he's still averaging 5.6 ypc this year.

Your always good for at least one Michigan reference Sniper. He was ripping PSU's D apart pretty good last weekend.

Sniper
10-23-2008, 02:45 PM
Your always good for at least one Michigan reference Sniper. He was ripping PSU's D apart pretty good last weekend.

Your/you're. Work on it.

The only reason I mentioned Minor is because he was carving up PSU's D ;) Damn shame they stopped giving him the rock.

BUTerriers
10-26-2008, 08:23 PM
What do people think about DeAndre Brown, freshman WR at Southern Miss? Caught part of the game against Memphis at a bar last night, and he looked very good and very quick for a 6-6 guy. Could we be talking about him as the next Calvin Johnson in 2-3 years? Or is more similar to guys like Dwayne Jarrett?

Sniper
10-26-2008, 08:24 PM
What do people think about DeAndre Brown, freshman WR at Southern Miss? Caught part of the game against Memphis at a bar last night, and he looked very good and very quick for a 6-6 guy. Could we be talking about him as the next Calvin Johnson in 2-3 years? Or is more similar to guys like Dwayne Jarrett?

College Dwayne Jarrett or pro Dwayne Jarrett?

MaxV
10-26-2008, 08:29 PM
Has Stefen Wisniewski been mentioned here yet?

He could very well be the top rated OG prospect in a couple of years.

Sniper
10-26-2008, 08:35 PM
Has Stefen Wisniewski been mentioned here yet?

He could very well be the top rated OG prospect in a couple of years.

A.Q Shipley is a bossman.

P-L
10-26-2008, 08:43 PM
Brandon Graham was awesome this week. He was the only U-M player who showed up to play.

5 tackles, 3 sacks, 3.5 TFL

He would've had a fourth sack but he was tossed to the ground by the right tackle, who was called for holding.

BamaFalcon59
10-26-2008, 08:55 PM
B.J. Raji SR NT Boston College: Kind of disappeared last year because of injuries, but he is back at full force now, simply is a fine player and has been good for a very long time. Big huge man, plays with great quickness, can really eat up blockers and make plays behind the line of scrimmage. He will be one of the better DTs taken in the draft.

He was academically ineligible last year.

Ozzy
10-26-2008, 09:37 PM
He was academically ineligible last year.I get it, my error.

Ozzy
10-28-2008, 08:22 AM
Week 9 prospect standouts
Navorro Bowman SOPH RS OLB Penn State: Wow, this kid will be the next great Penn State linebacker, what a wonderful looking athlete. Really stays off of blocks, his physically built and runs well in the open field. Best of all he is a redshirt freshman, and in the future should be an absolute stud OLB prospect.


Josh Freeman JR QB Kansas State: Big time game against a big time team, anyone that watched the game will remember him running for a first down, carrying three or four defenders along the way. If he keeps showing that kind of passion and leadership his stock will greatly increase.


Joe Burnett SR CB UCF: Very nice corn prospect and had a good game against a great QB at Tulsa. Plays with great quickness, has fine speed, plays the ball really well and can double as a return man. Do not be surprised if his stock greatly increases, do not forget he is one of the best corners in the upcoming draft.


David Johnson SR QB Tulsa: How did this guy not play over Paul Smith, I liked Smith but this guy has an absolute cannon for an arm. He moves in the pocket really well, has what appears to be wonderful balls skills and can simply fling that ball with the best of them. Dare I say, he might be the first senior QB taken?


Eric Berry SOPH S Tennessee: What a game he had against Alabama, what an amazing prospect, and I stand corrected, Berry would be the 1st defensive back taken even in this years draft.


Robert Ayers SR DE Tennessee: Had a great game against some fine offensive lineman, with his size, strength and ability to rush the passer his stock is flying high right now. He is easily a top 5 pure defensive end. He is having a wonderful senior season.


Brian Robiskie SR WR Ohio State: I liked how he played against Penn State, he was aggressive, attacked the ball and went up in the air making plays. Hopefully for his sake he plays with that same aggressiveness the rest of the season.


Thaddeus Gibson SOPH DE Ohio State: Finally Ohio State and their defensive line played well, Gibson should be a main stay now on that front, fine looking speed rusher than really caused problems at times during that game. Nice looking player and will see more and more of him from now on.


Javier Arenas JR CB Alabama: Played a great game, he has always been a real big time return man, but now he is also becoming a big time coverage corner. Love his commitment to tackling as well, his stock is greatly increasing.


Cameron Heyward SOPH DE Ohio State: Another relative enigma that played great, huge man and has a wonderful frame to build on. Hopefully he does not follow in the footsteps of Lawrence Wilson.


Jermale Hines SOPH S Ohio State: Big tall safety, played great in that game and is a fine looking young prospect. He will really push for playing time the rest of the season and next year, got to love his size and athletic ability.


Gerald Cadogan SR OT Penn State: I really like this guy at OT, he has very quick feet and hands, moves really well and knows how to stay in front of his man. Is a little light in his base, not a thick man for his size but overall should get a long look come draft time.


Mike Neal JR DT Purdue: Huge man, love his physical strength, does not always show up in the games but is one to keep an eye on. Just has to be consistently giving effort play in and play out.


Jared Odrick JR DT Penn State: Had a real sound game, however it did come against a freshman center, nonetheless is a tough tackle, plays with good intensity.


Kyle Theret SOPH S Minnesota: Tough player, makes tackles all over the field and is just simply solid, is one to watch.


Marcus Sherels JR CB Minnesota: Solid looking cover corner, makes plays, is smart and still has a ways to go but he has talent.


Brandon Green FR WR Minnesota: Showed small flashes, basically has taken the spot from Spry from now on, good quick and fast young receiver.


Sean Glennon SR QB Virginia Tech: Will get a look in the NFL, not a great prospect but throws the ball well down field, can take a hit and has good pocket presence.


Trae Johnson SOPH WR Tulsa: Nice looking young prospect, very fast with explosive athletic ability.


Damaris Johnson FR WR Tulsa: Great looking freshman, really small but really fast, has wonderful quickness and should be a big time playmaker for a long time on Tulsa.


Lydell Sargeant SR CB Penn State: Have never really been impressed with him as a corner, but he does stay in position well and is having a good year, might get a look in the NFL possibly.

Sniper
10-28-2008, 08:26 AM
Brandon Graham: 3 sacks and almost hawked Javon Ringer on a long TD run. Dude can move.

Ozzy
10-29-2008, 09:31 AM
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Navorro Bowman, redshirt sophomore OLB Penn State:

Next great linebacker at Penn State, how this kid is not being talked about more amazes me. Then again he is a young player so people do not seem to care as much. Obvious comparison would be to Arrington, not that elite of an athlete but Bowman is more stocky now than Arrington was his last year in college.

SuperKevin
10-29-2008, 10:18 AM
Just to let you know the major knock on Joe Burnett is timed speed. Most scouts see him as a 4.6 guy who is more "quick" then fast. He's got a shot at carving out a niche as a kick returner and as a zone corner.

Ozzy
10-29-2008, 10:45 AM
Just to let you know the major knock on Joe Burnett is timed speed. Most scouts see him as a 4.6 guy who is more "quick" then fast. He's got a shot at carving out a niche as a kick returner and as a zone corner.Statistics are important, 40 time is important but it is not everything. I think Burnett plays very fast Dwight Lowery's slow 40 time does not seem to be hurting him that much at corner for the Jets. Honestly I rarely read what other "scouts" say about prospects, maybe that is a fault but I am too stubborn to do anything other than make up my own opinion. Because if not, then one is just kind of throwing up what others said.

SuperKevin
10-29-2008, 10:52 AM
Statistics are important, 40 time is important but it is not everything. I think Burnett plays very fast Dwight Lowery's slow 40 time does not seem to be hurting him that much at corner for the Jets. Honestly I rarely read what other "scouts" say about prospects, maybe that is a fault but I am too stubborn to do anything other than make up my own opinion. Because if not, then one is just kind of throwing up what others said.

Really statistics aren't that important. Some players are put in situations where they can accumulate better stats and others aren't.

Unless you intend on going to individual practices with a stop watch you have no real idea of a player's timed speed. Like I said he's more "quick" than fast

MaxV
10-29-2008, 11:11 AM
Bowman is a stud, but he's actually a redshirt sophomore.

He'll already be draft-eligible.

Ozzy
10-29-2008, 12:09 PM
Bowman is a stud, but he's actually a redshirt sophomore.

He'll already be draft-eligible.Oh yeah, thank you for clearing that up. Honestly hate these sites that label the class of the prospect incorrectly.

http://gopsusports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/bowman_navorro00.html


With that being the case, I would have him a top 5 OLB prospect in the upcoming draft easily. Hope he stays another year though, he could be picked even higher and be possibly the #1 OLB.

LonghornsLegend
10-29-2008, 12:37 PM
Brandon Graham: 3 sacks and almost hawked Javon Ringer on a long TD run. Dude can move.

Donovan Warren has been catching my eye quite a bit, he might not be making alot of noise but he has the tools to be a very good prospect, him, Joe Haden, and Chykie Brown are some of my top sophmore corners.

Sniper
10-29-2008, 12:59 PM
Donovan Warren has been catching my eye quite a bit, he might not be making alot of noise but he has the tools to be a very good prospect, him, Joe Haden, and Chykie Brown are some of my top sophmore corners.

He's been hobbled by nagging injuries lately, which make him look crappy. When he's healthy, he's a phenomenal cover corner. He's never going to get a lot of INTs because teams don't throw much his way.

Ozzy
10-29-2008, 01:20 PM
Donovan Warren has been catching my eye quite a bit, he might not be making alot of noise but he has the tools to be a very good prospect, him, Joe Haden, and Chykie Brown are some of my top sophmore corners.Oh heck yeah, he is a real standout corner, you just look at him and he looks like a player. Physical, tall and should be a star in the future. Marlin Jackson was not overly productive on Michigan always, thought he kind of underachieved there and I had him the #1 CB for awhile but never actually got to that level. But now in the NFL he is playing outstanding and that size really helps. Look at what Talib is doing, size at corner can not be understated.

Sniper
10-29-2008, 01:23 PM
Oh heck yeah, he is a real standout corner, you just look at him and he looks like a player. Physical, tall and should be a star in the future. Marlin Jackson was not overly productive on Michigan always, thought he kind of underachieved there and I had him the #1 CB for awhile but never actually got to that level. But now in the NFL he is playing outstanding and that size really helps. Look at what Talib is doing, size at corner can not be understated.

There's a big difference though. Warren is built nothing like Jackson and Talib. He's a solid six feet, but he's maybe 180 pounds soaking wet and needs to bulk up. His tackling is mediocre (though it's much improved since last year), but man, he can cover. Warren's really not that physical either.

Ozzy
11-03-2008, 05:51 PM
Weekly 10 prospect standouts
Morgan Burnett SOPH S Georgia Tech: Outstanding young safety prospect, second only to Eric Berry at his position in his class. Had an out of this world game against Florida State, shows wonderful closing speed and brings a punch when he arrives to the ball carrier.


Corey Wootton JR DE Northwestern: What a great looking defensive end, finally putting it all together and is playing like a monster let loose on the field. Has ideal size for a defensive end, shows good quickness and has power. Could be a top notch defensive end prospect even in this years draft, he is a 1st round talent especially if he stays for his senior season.


Captain Munnerlyn JR CB South Carolina: Had a marvelous game against Tennessee, made some very impressive tackles in the open field and as usual made great plays on the football in the passing game. Should be a 1st round pick and might go a lot higher than some think if he comes out early.


Greg Romeus RS SOPH DE Pitt: Still pretty raw as a defensive end, does not always get pressure and at times is too easy to block. Nonetheless, physically he is an impressive looking player and could become very good in a few years.


Prince Kwateng SR OLB Northwestern: Impressed with the speed at which he plays the game at linebacker, runs around well and makes plays, is stocky and quick. Should be a great sleeper prospect at linebacker in the upcoming draft.


Connor Barwin SR OLB Cincinnati: Project prospect, but is having a great year, is a very impressive athlete that has great quickness and speed as an edge rusher. Would not be surprised to see him get picked up in the later rounds.


Nick Claytor RS FR OT Georgia Tech: Very impressive looking young OT, has great size and is hard to get around, as a freshman he has no where to go but up, is one to keep an eye on.


Tony Pike JR QB Cincinnati: Real sleeper quarterback here, has a great arm, throws a lovely deep ball and has ideal height at 6-6. Not a very physically gifted kid, is a little skinny but still could develop into a great senior QB prospect next season. Seems to get better week after week and he has a great upside.


Wesley Saunders SOPH TE South Carolina: Massive man, has good hands and is surprisingly athletic. With more playing time and more conditioning, he could be a very solid tight end prospect as a senior.

themaninblack
11-03-2008, 08:19 PM
Weekly 10 prospect standouts
Connor Barwin SR OLB Cincinnati: Project prospect, but is having a great year, is a very impressive athlete that has great quickness and speed as an edge rusher. Would not be surprised to see him get picked up in the later rounds.


Barwin was also on UC's basketball team for two years and even saw some minutes. He was asked to join the team because of the amount of injuries that occurred. He's a really impressive athlete and he was originally a TE.

Ozzy
11-03-2008, 08:23 PM
Barwin was also on UC's basketball team for two years and even saw some minutes. He was asked to join the team because of the amount of injuries that occurred. He's a really impressive athlete and he was originally a TE.Yeah I heard that during the game, and basically almost every football player that has played some basketball is usually quite talented, or at least it seems to be. Few come to mind, Moss, Owens, Gonzalez, Gates, Randle El and to a lesser extent, Martellus Bennett, Justin Gage and Lebron James, oh wait;)

Barwin even has caught a few touchdowns this season for Cincy, and who knows he could even be a TE prospect as well, depends on where people want him a rush OLB or TE. Regardless, a big time sleeper prospect who will certainly get a look come draft time.

BuddyCHRIST
11-03-2008, 08:29 PM
Graham Gano is the best kicker in the country. He was injured at the beginning of the year so he was a little limited, and now even coming back from a strained hammy he is 15/16 with his only miss being a 50 yarder in his first attempt of the season, 2 games before scheduled to return from injury. He's hit a long of 53, and hit a 50 yarder in 4 straight games. With all this, he's been FSU's punter the past few years but earlier this year he's been limited due to the Hammy but has returned to the job and kickoff duties and is a stud at both. He's a legit draftable prospect.

Ozzy
11-03-2008, 09:36 PM
Graham Gano is the best kicker in the country. He was injured at the beginning of the year so he was a little limited, and now even coming back from a strained hammy he is 15/16 with his only miss being a 50 yarder in his first attempt of the season, 2 games before scheduled to return from injury. He's hit a long of 53, and hit a 50 yarder in 4 straight games. With all this, he's been FSU's punter the past few years but earlier this year he's been limited due to the Hammy but has returned to the job and kickoff duties and is a stud at both. He's a legit draftable prospect.Totally agree, there are not many standout senior kickers anyway, and he should get drafted come draft day. Not amazingly talented like say a Mason Crosby, but not bad either.

sodar21
11-03-2008, 10:02 PM
Weekly 10 prospect standouts
Morgan Burnett SOPH S Georgia Tech: Outstanding young safety prospect, second only to Eric Berry at his position in his class. Had an out of this world game against Florida State, shows wonderful closing speed and brings a punch when he arrives to the ball carrier.


Corey Wootton JR DE Northwestern: What a great looking defensive end, finally putting it all together and is playing like a monster let loose on the field. Has ideal size for a defensive end, shows good quickness and has power. Could be a top notch defensive end prospect even in this years draft, he is a 1st round talent especially if he stays for his senior season.


Captain Munnerlyn JR CB South Carolina: Had a marvelous game against Tennessee, made some very impressive tackles in the open field and as usual made great plays on the football in the passing game. Should be a 1st round pick and might go a lot higher than some think if he comes out early.


Greg Romeus RS SOPH DE Pitt: Still pretty raw as a defensive end, does not always get pressure and at times is too easy to block. Nonetheless, physically he is an impressive looking player and could become very good in a few years.


Prince Kwateng SR OLB Northwestern: Impressed with the speed at which he plays the game at linebacker, runs around well and makes plays, is stocky and quick. Should be a great sleeper prospect at linebacker in the upcoming draft.


Connor Barwin SR OLB Cincinnati: Project prospect, but is having a great year, is a very impressive athlete that has great quickness and speed as an edge rusher. Would not be surprised to see him get picked up in the later rounds.


Nick Claytor RS FR OT Georgia Tech: Very impressive looking young OT, has great size and is hard to get around, as a freshman he has no where to go but up, is one to keep an eye on.


Tony Pike JR QB Cincinnati: Real sleeper quarterback here, has a great arm, throws a lovely deep ball and has ideal height at 6-6. Not a very physically gifted kid, is a little skinny but still could develop into a great senior QB prospect next season. Seems to get better week after week and he has a great upside.


Wesley Saunders SOPH TE South Carolina: Massive man, has good hands and is surprisingly athletic. With more playing time and more conditioning, he could be a very solid tight end prospect as a senior.

Thanks for mentioning Wootton. I was curious if anyone else was high on him. He has great size and good production. I'm not sure how his other measurables will stand but he should certainly get some serious attention.

Ozzy
11-04-2008, 11:41 AM
Thanks for mentioning Wootton. I was curious if anyone else was high on him. He has great size and good production. I'm not sure how his other measurables will stand but he should certainly get some serious attention.Wootton is as good as any defensive end prospect in the country. He could easily come out early and be a high pick, but again if he stays watch out, he could be a monster much like Gaines Adams was as a senior.

Vox Populi
11-04-2008, 12:35 PM
How can Michael Crabtree only be a RS Soph? WTF!!!! MY HEAD IS EXPLODING!!!

This kid is ridiculous, that game against UT was the first time I'd seen him live and it prompted me to watch all the other games hes played in this year or as much of them as I could get my hands on (Missed a couple quarters from the first four games). If he busts in the NFL it will have to be because someone shot his knees out or something. I honestly think hes one of the best receiver prospects this decade ranking somewhere in there with Fitz and Andre Johnson and behind Calvin Johnson. System or not, this guy is going to be legit in the NFL.

Ozzy
11-04-2008, 12:37 PM
This kid is ridiculous, that game against UT was the first time I'd seen him live and it prompted me to watch all the other games hes played in this year or as much of them as I could get my hands on (Missed a couple quarters from the first four games). If he busts in the NFL it will have to be because someone shot his knees out or something. I honestly think hes one of the best receiver prospects this decade ranking somewhere in there with Fitz and Andre Johnson and behind Calvin Johnson. System or not, this guy is going to be legit in the NFL.I agree Jay;) I am more and more impressed with his quickness and the speed at which he runs routes. Most think for his size he is just a big receiver and will be a bust like Mike Williams or Dwayne Jarrett have been. Crabtree seems to be much faster than those players, and the quickness is not even comparable. He is physically more athletic than Fitzgerald but Fitzgerald was a better jump ball receiver and overall was more polished. Not to mention played for a MUCH worse team with bad quarterbacks.

Race for the Heisman
11-04-2008, 03:35 PM
I'm in absolute agreement. I can't decide whether he's my number one or number two overall prospect (with Malcolm Jenkins being the other).

themaninblack
11-04-2008, 05:54 PM
Yeah I heard that during the game, and basically almost every football player that has played some basketball is usually quite talented, or at least it seems to be. Few come to mind, Moss, Owens, Gonzalez, Gates, Randle El and to a lesser extent, Martellus Bennett, Justin Gage and Lebron James, oh wait;)

Barwin even has caught a few touchdowns this season for Cincy, and who knows he could even be a TE prospect as well, depends on where people want him a rush OLB or TE. Regardless, a big time sleeper prospect who will certainly get a look come draft time.

Ya he's definitely a good athlete but will probably need a few years to develop in the right system to be effective.

Ozzy
11-04-2008, 10:28 PM
Week 10 prospect standouts
Malcolm Williams FR WR Texas: Flat out exploded against Texas Tech, two absolute burns against the Red Raider defense. Clearly has some speed and size, but also that was horrible coverage. Nonetheless, clearly could be a star and showed some amazing athletic potential


Traye Simmons JR CB Minnesota: Had a great game against Northwestern, is really climbing the charts, is easily one of the best corners in the Big Ten, can tackle and make plays on the football.


Dan Buckner FR WR Texas: Big physical kid, one of two large imposing young receivers on Texas, could be a good one, needs to work on his route running though.


Brandon Williams JR DE Texas Tech: Kid is getting better and better, is showing he might be one of the elite edge speed rushers in college football. Played another great game against a quality offensive line.


Patrick Robinson JR CB Florida St: Love this kids potential, now he is getting to play a lot more and made a real high light catch on one interception he had. However he did get into some trouble that had him suspended the first three games of the year though.


Deon Beasley JR CB Texas: Not overly impressed with him but he moved really well on the field, is very weak tackling however, but is a long athletic kid.


Foswhitt Whittaker FR RB Texas: Showed a few flashes, clearly has good open field speed, but never did like Charles at Texas and hopefully Whittaker is not a clone of him. Need some toughness in the NFL, cannot run by everyone.


Edward Britton JR WR Texas Tech: Shows great speed and change of direction ability, interesting prospect to watch out for.


Graham Harrell SR QB Texas Tech: Amazing how beating a highly ranked team can make any quarterback look good. He does throw a fast football, not all that impressed with how he throws a deep ball but at least he is under control, manages the game well and is smart.


Colby Whitlock SOPH DT Texas Tech: Tough little tackle, plays with intensity on the field and is one to keep an eye on.

jbooshey
11-04-2008, 10:32 PM
Not a lot of knowledge on the Wisconsin boys...they are having an awful season, but that typically isn't the case.

To shore up a previous error...Zach Brown the RB is still on the team and a 3rd down back...Lance Smith was dismissed from the team before the season started.

David Gilreath is not a Sr. WR but a true Sophomore...he will NOT get a look from the pros after this season.

Draft Eligible Badgers the NFL will consider:

Jonathan Casillas LB- He is smaller, but VERY fast and he makes plays. Should get drafted in the mid-late rounds.

Travis Beckum H-Back- Will be a first day draft pick assuming he can work out at the combine.

DeAndre Levy LB- Underrated, and loves to play physical. Should workout pretty well.

Jay Valai SS- He is in the Bob Sanders mold (poorman). He is a RsSoph and should improve every year enough to get a strong look from the scouts. Hardest Hitter on the team.

Allen Langford CB- A slow corner but he has solid technique. I don't think he'll be drafted, but he may have a shot in the 7th because he has had a very solid season.

Shane Carter FS- Overrated and should not be drafted.

PJ Hill RB- Could be a solid 3rd down back. I wouldn't touch him until the last two rounds.

Chris Pressley FB- Chris is a beast, but not the most versatile FB out there.

Kraig Urbik OG- Most versatile OL on the team.

Gabe Carimi LT- Should be a 1st round prospect when he enters. He is a rsSoph.

Eric Vandenhuevel RT- Strong as an ox and very big.

Andy Kemp OG- Long time starter but has marginal tools.

Lance Kendricks H-Back- You'll learn his name in a couple years. He is a rsSoph.

Garrett Grahamn TE- Best receiving TE that you may not have heard of.

Matt Shaughnessy DE- Undersized but not fluid enough to be an OLB. Has had a pretty good season and will likely get drafted this year.

O'Brien Schofield DE- Will translate to an OLB and will be a workout FREAK next year.

Underclassmen whose names you should learn if interested:

Louis Nzegwu DE
David Gilreath WR
Jake Byrne TE
John Moffit OC
Josh Oglesby OL
John Clay RB
Mario Goins CB
Marcus Cromartie CB
Aaron Henry CB
Philip Welch K
Curt Phillips QB????
Nick Toon WR

Ozzy
11-04-2008, 10:45 PM
David Gilreath is not a Sr. WR but a true Sophomore...he will NOT get a look from the pros after this season.Thank you for the correction, I have a magazine that lists him as a senior, thanks Sporting News. That is great for Gilreath though.


Jonathan Casillas LB- He is smaller, but VERY fast and he makes plays. Should get drafted in the mid-late rounds.Scary prospect, some teams might love him but small linebackers, yikes. Beau Bell hit like a ton of bricks, but was a smallish linebacker and really dropped in the draft. Casillas does not hit as hard as some smaller linebackers that have been drafted in the past

DeAndre Levy LB- Underrated, and loves to play physical. Should workout pretty well.Agreed, he is a good player and a fine athlete

Allen Langford CB- A slow corner but he has solid technique. I don't think he'll be drafted, but he may have a shot in the 7th because he has had a very solid season.Good point, I loved him as a sophomore but he has consistently got worse and worse.

Shane Carter FS- Overrated and should not be drafted.Starting to agree with you there, best thing he has going for him is he is Chris Carter's brother

PJ Hill RB- Could be a solid 3rd down back. I wouldn't touch him until the last two rounds.Agree, he is so damn slow and fat, Clay is a much more promising prospect. Hill was a beast as a freshman but has in a way got worse

Chris Pressley FB- Chris is a beast, but not the most versatile FB out there.
Yeah great blocking back and has been for awhile, however Bernstein was a beast but see how far that got him

Gabe Carimi LT- Should be a 1st round prospect when he enters. He is a rsSoph.

Garrett Grahamn TE- Best receiving TE that you may not have heard of.Oh I have heard of him, and agree he is pretty good that is for sure, a little weak and not very physical though.

O'Brien Schofield DE- Will translate to an OLB and will be a workout FREAK next year.Agree, he is a very promising looking young player

That offensive line is really talented though, totally have a few stars up front. Speaking of stars, Clay will be a big time star, could be one of the most talented running backs at that school in a very very long time.



Why is Aaron Henry not getting more playing time I wonder?


I have to be honest, I love that Wisconsin is bad this year. Being a Minnesota guy I hate them! :eek:

eaglesalltheway
11-05-2008, 06:44 AM
Colby Whitlock SOPH DT Texas Tech: Tough little tackle, plays with intensity on the field and is one to keep an eye on.

I'm glad you did one on him, to be honest, with how he played on Saturday, I was expecting you to do one on him. I was watching the game with a friend of mine, who is a Texas fan, and about midway through the second quarter, I said to my friend that He was everywhere on that defnese, and he continued to bring that the rest of the game. He made almost every type of play imaginable for a DT. He had the safety, took part in a sack or two, had tipped balls, and made tackels over a wide rtange of the field. I play a lot like this kid does, and I really like watching guys that are similar to me. The major difference being that they are soooo much better than I am.

jbooshey
11-05-2008, 09:58 PM
That offensive line is really talented though, totally have a few stars up front. Speaking of stars, Clay will be a big time star, could be one of the most talented running backs at that school in a very very long time.



Why is Aaron Henry not getting more playing time I wonder?


I have to be honest, I love that Wisconsin is bad this year. Being a Minnesota guy I hate them! :eek:



John Clay will be a very common name once he gets in the spotlight. He has some Beanie Wells in him. A very solid North/South Runner.


Aaron Henry is redshirting this year. Blew the ACL.

I'm really looking forward to the Axe Battle this year...it should have a lot of meaning for both UW and UM (more than usual at least). UW is looking to be bowl eligible (even if it is a crap bowl, those bowl practices are excellent for the youth) and Minny is looking to cap off a dream 2nd season under Brewster.

Ozzy
11-06-2008, 08:12 AM
Week 11 prospect standouts
Nate Davis JR QB Ball State: Wow that kid is impressive, he is energetic as a leader, extremely mobile in the pocket, has a great arm even if he throws the ball like a baseball, and is a fine ball handler as well in terms of play fakes and pump fakes. Hard not to be impressed with that kid, I only wish he played against a little better competition, because really their entire schedule is full of a lot of untalented defenses. Nonetheless, amazing looking young prospect and could argue the point he should be above Tebow in the JR QB rankings.


Andre Ramsey SR OT Ball State: Certainly looks the part, is a big kid, very top heavy but provides good push in the run game and decent athletic ability for a man his size. Might get a look in the draft possibly.


Darius Hill SR TE Ball State: Listing him at TE is ridiculous, he is clearly a receiver and the cliche comparison will be Marques Colston. Still a nice looking prospect, obviously has great height, pretty good hand eye coordination and is a fluid athlete. He will get drafted for sure by some organization.


Larry English SR DE Northern Illinois: Almost common knowledge around here that this kid is a player. I really doubt he plays DE in the NFL, seems like a perfect OLB. Has great speed, really is consistent and relentless in his pass rush. He could go on the first day possibly.



I'm really looking forward to the Axe Battle this year...it should have a lot of meaning for both UW and UM (more than usual at least). UW is looking to be bowl eligible (even if it is a crap bowl, those bowl practices are excellent for the youth) and Minny is looking to cap off a dream 2nd season under Brewster.Exactly, and once we get that stadium finished there is no more stealing our good players, for football and basketball!

SuperKevin
11-06-2008, 08:33 AM
[b]Larry English SR DE Northern Illinois: Almost common knowledge around here that this kid is a player. I really doubt he plays DE in the NFL, seems like a perfect OLB. Has great speed, really is consistent and relentless in his pass rush. He could go on the first day possibly.

I think English will stay at DE because teams are looking more and more for that ssituational speed rusher ala Robert Mathis and Trent Cole. The guy is quick but he's also got good enough technique and strength to stay on the line should a team want him there. I also think it's hard to project so many players at OLB given that only a handful of teams actually play the 3-4 now.

Ozzy
11-06-2008, 09:27 AM
I think English will stay at DE because teams are looking more and more for that ssituational speed rusher ala Robert Mathis and Trent Cole. The guy is quick but he's also got good enough technique and strength to stay on the line should a team want him there. I also think it's hard to project so many players at OLB given that only a handful of teams actually play the 3-4 now.Very true, and he does have the technique down for sure. However looking around, guys like Rosevelt Colvin, Shaun Phillips, Chris Gocong, Napolean Harris, Kylie Wong, Manny Lawson, Quentin Moses, Chike Okeafor, Adalius Thomas and Demorrio Williams who were all mostly pass rushers in college have made good transitions to LB in the NFL, even though more than half of them do play in a 3/4 type defense. But guys like Adalius Thomas is good enough in coverage he could easily play in a 4/3, and Demorrio Williams does play in a 4/3 and does quite well, even though at Nebraska he was not a down DE but still was basically a pass rusher.

It is true though, everyone is like he would be a great 3/4 OLB, well yeah not many teams play that style of defense. And guys like Selive, Orakpo and Hardy could all easily play in a 4/3. However a guy like Michael Johnson, would be harder to make that case since he is so skinny at what 240. Still like you said he could be a situational guy, Bobby McCray did it.

jbooshey
11-06-2008, 05:42 PM
Week 11 prospect standouts

Exactly, and once we get that stadium finished there is no more stealing our good players, for football and basketball!



I disagree...partially at least. You are going to have to keep Brewster to keep UW football out of Minny and Bo has had and is going to have too much success with the Minny's to keep them from coming. Jordan Taylor is going to be a STUD...this kid is the strongest freshman pg I've ever seen. I love Jon Leuer also. Kam Taylor was alright. I enjoy plucking them out of Minny and would love to see it continue!

LonghornsLegend
11-06-2008, 09:05 PM
Week 10 prospect standouts
Malcolm Williams FR WR Texas: Flat out exploded against Texas Tech, two absolute burns against the Red Raider defense. Clearly has some speed and size, but also that was horrible coverage. Nonetheless, clearly could be a star and showed some amazing athletic potential



Dan Buckner FR WR Texas: Big physical kid, one of two large imposing young receivers on Texas, could be a good one, needs to work on his route running though.


I really like Malcolm, he's a big guy with great size that has some play-making ability to him...He's shown the flashes you want to see, and at his frame and speed I think he will be a go to guy once Cosby leaves.


Buckner is still raw but he's gonna be the next big WR in line for UT and a great red zone threat...He really impressed me in the Under Armour All-American game and I think he's a player, I'm not expecting alot until his junior year and surprised we didn't red-shirt him, and I don't think he will be the explosive WR that Williams will be but he knows how to use his size to come down with the ball and will remind alot of people of Limas Sweed.

SuperKevin
11-07-2008, 06:47 PM
Jonathan Casillas LB- He is smaller, but VERY fast and he makes plays. Should get drafted in the mid-late rounds.Scary prospect, some teams might love him but small linebackers, yikes. Beau Bell hit like a ton of bricks, but was a smallish linebacker and really dropped in the draft. Casillas does not hit as hard as some smaller linebackers that have been drafted in the past


Beau Bell was 6'2" 248 lbs at the Combine. How is that small for a MLB?

Cigaro
11-07-2008, 06:50 PM
Wesley Saunders SOPH TE South Carolina: Massive man, has good hands and is surprisingly athletic. With more playing time and more conditioning, he could be a very solid tight end prospect as a senior.

It's Weslye, and he's the only 280 pound tight end I've seen who can't block well.

Ozzy
11-10-2008, 03:40 PM
I disagree...partially at least. You are going to have to keep Brewster to keep UW football out of Minny and Bo has had and is going to have too much success with the Minny's to keep them from coming. Jordan Taylor is going to be a STUD...this kid is the strongest freshman pg I've ever seen. I love Jon Leuer also. Kam Taylor was alright. I enjoy plucking them out of Minny and would love to see it continue!I know that all too well, I saw a lot of Taylor as a sophomore in Minnesota, then he was the best PG in the state and it held true his JR and SR seasons. He is much better than Al Nolan because Taylor can flat out score the ball, sadly, but again the days of Wisconsin taking out best players is over. Just look at basketball now we got Rodney Williams and Royce White already locked up. However still, Wisconsin needs to recruit Minnesota in both sports because they are kind of suspect in terms of producing quality athletes ;)

I really like Malcolm, he's a big guy with great size that has some play-making ability to him...He's shown the flashes you want to see, and at his frame and speed I think he will be a go to guy once Cosby leaves.True, Cosby and Shipley get all the balls, and really if Cosby was not injured against Texas Tech Williams would not have been able to have the game he had.

DragonFireKai
11-10-2008, 03:53 PM
Jacquizz Rodgers - Fr. RB, Oregon State. Rushed for 144 yards against UCLA. Currently sitting at 1,084 yards rushing, leadin the Pac 10, and setting the Pac 10 record for most rushing yards by a freshman. Think Darren Sproles, only stronger.

Ozzy
11-10-2008, 04:01 PM
Week 11 prospect standouts

James Michael Johnson FR RS LB Nevada: Damn this kid showed up a lot against Fresno. He played extremely fast, making plays all over the field. Was very nice in coverage, has good closing speed and has great reaction time. Not a wuss tackling either, can make a big hit when he needs too. Do not be surprised if he potentially is a star Tampa 2 LB prospect in two or three years.


Kevin Basped SOPH RS DE Nevada: Another real standout potential star on the Nevada defense. Basped is the classic tall lengthy pass rusher. Does not really have many pass rush moves but is strong despite being relatively small for a DE, and he gets great push in the pocket. If he works on a few more pass rush moves he could be an absolute terror off the edge.


Moises Fokou SR OLB Maryland: Talked about him earlier in the year, and impresses me still. Wonderful looking athlete, very built in the upper body, and appears to be a standout pass rusher. I would not be shocked if he goes on the 1st day of the draft.


AJ Jefferson JR kick/punt returner Fresno State: Quite possibly the best return man in the nation. Has flat out speed in the open field and is not a smurf like many other great return men in college.


Brandon Graham JR DE Michigan: Like many have already said previously this kid could be a star. Really stout defensive end, built like a rock and gets just wonderful push off the edge. Playing so well coming out early might not be a bad idea.


Rashad Johnson SR S Alabama: Seems to play better and better every week. Is very solid in coverage, makes plays on the football in the air and is a stone cold tackler in the open field. Is quickly becoming one of the best FS prospects in the upcoming draft.


Kyle Calloway JR OT Iowa: Very nice looking OT, love his athletic ability. Knows how to hold his block and has good technique.


Darren Evans FR RS Virginia Tech: Talk about a breakout game, always showed flashes of being a good runner but really busted out against Maryland. Always have liked his size and quick feet, now put on some speed and the Hokies might have themselves a star RB for years to come.


Uche Anyanwu SR S Nevada: Physically fits the part, I like how he makes tackles in the open field and should get picked up by some team next year. He is a talented looking young prospect.


Greg Boone JR TE Virginia Tech: Real coming out party for him, and he did almost nothing at TE as a receiver. However he did play some QB, made some good strong runs showing great toughness and the ability to be a physical football player. Also made some good blocks and at his size he is one to watch out for at TE. Rare to find TEs that big and that athletic.


Vai Taua SOPH RB Nevada: Playing a horrible run defense, but the kid simply knows how to keep moving forward. Has wonderful vision in the open field, knows when to make his cut and can take a big hit and keep running hard. Should be a fine prospect in a few years.


Colin Kaepernick SOPH QB Nevada: Loved him as a freshman and still impressed with him now. He looks like even a better athlete than he did last year. Very quick kid, obviously has ideal height and can clearly throw a football. Still quite raw but even if QB does not workout for him WR could easily be in his future.


Quinn Johnson SR FB LSU: A tank of a FB, real beast of a blocker and will get picked up by someone in the draft. Arguably is the best run blocking FB in the draft, just wish he showed more versatility catching the football.


Jai Eugene SOPH CB LSU: Really like him as a CB prospect, can tackle really well in the open field, has a closing speed about him other corners do not have. Should be a star in the near future.


Joe Pawelek JR LB Baylor: Very nice looking LB prospect, can seriously make some plays in pass coverage. Is very aware on the field and knows how to play in space and read the QB. Wish he would make more plays against the run and show a little more intensity at times. Still a fine looking prospect to watch out for next year.


Chris Hawkins JR CB LSU: Tall kid, shows great ball skills and anticipation, needs more experience but has great potential.


Morgan Trent SR CB Michigan: Played a great game, can up and tackled receivers when he could and showed very good coverage ability. He will be a sleeper CB prospect in the draft but whatever team picks him up will be pleasantly surprised.


Terrell Skinner JR S Maryland: Physically fits the part, really impressive young safety. Can make tackles in the box but needs to improve his coverage. Nonetheless he could be a rising star his senior season potentially.





Note: Terrence Cody does not look like the same playing coming back off of his injury. So the days of him being a sleeper 1st round pick are over if he physically looks the way he did against LSU. Still a great talent and a interesting prospect but simply did not have the same power, strength and quickness he showed earlier in the year. Hopefully he can get back to 100% at some point and get back to that same level of play.

Ozzy
11-10-2008, 04:04 PM
Jacquizz Rodgers - Fr. RB, Oregon State. Rushed for 144 yards against UCLA. Currently sitting at 1,084 yards rushing, leadin the Pac 10, and setting the Pac 10 record for most rushing yards by a freshman. Think Darren Sproles, only stronger.Page 4 of this thread, but yeah I totally agree, he can flat out play and toughness at his size is absolutely not a question at all.

MaxV
11-10-2008, 04:08 PM
You should also mention Iowa's DT Mitch King. He practically won the game for them.

The guy was unblockable on Saturday.

BamaFalcon59
11-10-2008, 04:13 PM
Jacquizz Rodgers - Fr. RB, Oregon State. Rushed for 144 yards against UCLA. Currently sitting at 1,084 yards rushing, leadin the Pac 10, and setting the Pac 10 record for most rushing yards by a freshman. Think Darren Sproles, only stronger.

Umm, what? Sproles was pretty strong in college.

Also, I don't think Rodgers has near Sproles speed. He has a longest run of 33 yards on the year. Averaging 129 yards per game over the past eight games though, very impressive. The amount of carries he gets is worrisome, though.

BamaFalcon59
11-10-2008, 04:53 PM
I got my final rep bar.

Yay!

keylime_5
11-10-2008, 05:07 PM
Beau Bell was 6'2" 248 lbs at the Combine. How is that small for a MLB?

yeah, Bell is big for a linebacker, not small. He fell from the 2nd round where he probably should've went into the 4th round b/c he was injured at workouts time and had an injury history.

Ozzy
11-10-2008, 06:08 PM
You should also mention Iowa's DT Mitch King. He practically won the game for them.

The guy was unblockable on Saturday.Totally agree, just watched some of that Iowa game on tape, very impressive kid and has been giving consistent pressure from the middle for a undersized DT for a very long time. Could be a perfect DE in a 3/4 defense, Steelers have signed him already it seems.

As for Beau Bell, bad example, my apologizes. Let us say then fellow Wisconsin star Dontez Sanders, great player but as a small LB he dropped like a rock. Then you have Mike Okwo and the classic Karlos Dansby. And do not give me that bull that Dansby is 250 now because in college he was a stick and I think when he was drafted he was 230.

Babylon
11-10-2008, 06:24 PM
Really impressed with Mohammed Massaquoi this year. (as long as he can hold on to the ball). Doesnt seem like a deep year for receivers so he could be in for a good size payday.

DragonFireKai
11-10-2008, 06:28 PM
Page 4 of this thread, but yeah I totally agree, he can flat out play and toughness at his size is absolutely not a question at all.

After that amazing run against ASU that got called back, he deserves to be on every page of every thread.

Ozzy
11-11-2008, 11:54 AM
Week 11 prospect standouts
Mark Herzlich JR OLB Boston College: He impresses more and more every week. The guy is a terror as a pass rusher, he can play really well in space and forget the ¾ OLB, he could play in a 4/3 easily. Kid is a potential star and could be a 1st round pick this year in the draft if he comes out.


B.J. Raji SR NT Boston College: Flat out was amazing against Notre Dame, with his increasingly good play he could play himself into the 1st round if a team is in need of a good solid NT. Kid has been good for a long time, and is one of the best interior defensive lineman in the draft easily.


Shonn Greene JR RB Iowa: Saw him play for the first time this season, impressive but not all that impressive. He is stout, can move the chains, is consistent and very built. Could be a great situational RB in the NFL but his lack of breakaway speed could be a major issue. Still very sound prospect and I see why he gets the interest he does.


Mike McLaughlin JR ILB Boston College: Very impressive linebacker prospect, has great speed, very fast to the ball and is relentless, not afraid to put his body in harms way to make a play.


Donnie Fletcher FR CB Boston College: Very good young CB, shows good tackling ability in the open field and seems to have good quickness, is one to keep an eye on.


Harrison Smith SOPH S Notre Dame: Really playing well, despite not playing an ideal SS position, is more of a OLB at this point but makes plays around the line of scrimmage and is a very sound tackler. Will be interesting to watch him develop.


Ricky Stanzi SOPH QB Iowa: Interesting young QB prospect, wonderful at throwing the football on the run and have to love his ability to get out of the pocket and make plays.


Bryan Bulaga SOPH OT Iowa: Just as good as the other standout OT on Iowa, very technically sound and is a tough run blocker.


Jacody Coleman SOPH ILB Iowa: Stud linebacker in the middle, really stops the run well, was a standout freshman last year and should be a constant playmaker on Iowa for the next two years.


Travis McCall SR TE Alabama: As a blocking tight end he has a chance, very good blocker and considering most tight ends do not even block anymore, he could have a shot at making a NFL team.


Brandon Robinson SR WR Boston College: Not a flashy receiver but is a smooth route runner with very solid hands, could be a sleeper receiver prospect in the draft.

Sniper
11-11-2008, 11:59 AM
Morgan Trent SR CB Michigan: Played a great game, can up and tackled receivers when he could and showed very good coverage ability. He will be a sleeper CB prospect in the draft but whatever team picks him up will be pleasantly surprised.


Morgan Trent is an embarrassing joke of a cornerback. He blows at coverage, has zero awareness, and basically just fails at life.

Ozzy
11-11-2008, 12:01 PM
Morgan Trent is an embarrassing joke of a cornerback. He blows at coverage, has zero awareness, and basically just fails at life.You can have your opinion, I hated Trent a few years ago, but the kid does have decent speed, is improving as a tackler and does make good plays on the football from time to time. Think someone is a little spoiled at Michigan. A bad cornerback is not Morgan Trent, it is Trumaine Banks thank you very much. Thank is what is called a joke of a cornerback.

SuperKevin
11-11-2008, 12:03 PM
I'm rewatching the Tulane/Houston game and I'm very impressed with Phillip Hunt. He is reminding me a lot of Elvis Dumervil. He's a smaller DE with no real signature pass rush moves who is able to find his way into the back field with ease. So far he's abused Tulane's best pro prospect OT Troy Kropog. I don't know if Hunt has the lateral quickness to play OLB but he could be an excellent situational pass rusher at the next level with the potential to be a starter in the right scheme

Sniper
11-11-2008, 12:09 PM
You can have your opinion, I hated Trent a few years ago, but the kid does have decent speed, is improving as a tackler and does make good plays on the football from time to time. Think someone is a little spoiled at Michigan. A bad cornerback is not Morgan Trent, it is Trumaine Banks thank you very much. Thank is what is called a joke of a cornerback.

I'm sorry. I watch this clown every week. Trust me when I say, he's not good. He sucks in coverage. What am I spoiled by? A 3-7 season? Trent didn't get the name "Morgan ******* Trent" by accident.

P-L
11-11-2008, 12:39 PM
Trent has excellent speed and is good in run support, but he can't cover all that well. He has improved as the season has gone on, but that isn't saying much. He should still get drafted in rounds 4-6 because of his speed.

Ozzy
11-11-2008, 12:44 PM
I have hit a new low, I posted a prospect video on youtube...haha The quality is stellar;) Anyway, a marvelous play but a really talented young defensive lineman. I have never seen this before, he literally tackles the Notre Dame RB with a Notre Dame OG.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAs7UtO5-S4

doingthisinsteadofwork
11-11-2008, 12:57 PM
Trent has excellent speed and is good in run support, but he can't cover all that well. He has improved as the season has gone on, but that isn't saying much. He should still get drafted in rounds 4-6 because of his speed.
He's probably gonna be picked by Al Davis.

SuperKevin
11-11-2008, 12:58 PM
He's probably gonna be picked by Al Davis.

He doesn't have that much speed. Davis won't draft anyone slower than 4.4 flat at CB

SeanTaylorRIP
11-11-2008, 02:15 PM
Brandon Pettigrew further impresses me. He had a costly fumble but I still believe he's the only TE worth near a first round grade. Personally I think I'd take him with a top 20 pick. Unlike all these Hybrid TE/WR's, he's no faker. He may not be an incredible pass catching threat but he is more than adequate. Can find the holes in the zone, strong hands, with deceptive speed. Most importantly though which impresses me most is him as a blocker. He's basically like a 3rd OT when he is run blocking. I think he will be one of the most complete TE's in the NFL. I see pro bowl written all over him.

Ozzy
11-11-2008, 02:33 PM
Brandon Pettigrew further impresses me. He had a costly fumble but I still believe he's the only TE worth near a first round grade. Personally I think I'd take him with a top 20 pick. Unlike all these Hybrid TE/WR's, he's no faker. He may not be an incredible pass catching threat but he is more than adequate. Can find the holes in the zone, strong hands, with deceptive speed. Most importantly though which impresses me most is him as a blocker. He's basically like a 3rd OT when he is run blocking. I think he will be one of the most complete TE's in the NFL. I see pro bowl written all over him.I agree, he is a standout physically as a prospect. There is no way though that if Jermaine Gresham of Oklahoma comes out early as a JR he will not be a 1st round pick. Pettigrew has been disappointing on the field though this year, not nearly the pass catcher as a tight end that he has the potential to be. Do not forget the banner year Chase Coffman is having though, even if he cannot block, he can flat out catch the football and stretch the field.

Race for the Heisman
11-11-2008, 03:12 PM
I think you could make an argument for Pettigrew to be drafted late as on offensive tackle this year; his blocking is that impressive. At the same time, he has great hands and body control as well as excellent athletic ability. On the other hand his character really should drop him a bit. If you need an immediate impact (closing window), then Pettigrew is easily the best choice. If your offense is still growing there's no reason your tight end can't grow with it, in which case getting a guy without all the baggage is more desirable.

SuperKevin
11-11-2008, 03:15 PM
I think you could make an argument for Pettigrew to be drafted late as on offensive tackle this year; his blocking is that impressive. At the same time, he has great hands and body control as well as excellent athletic ability. On the other hand his character really should drop him a bit. If you need an immediate impact (closing window), then Pettigrew is easily the best choice. If your offense is still growing there's no reason your tight end can't grow with it, in which case getting a guy without all the baggage is more desirable.

Are you suggesting that Pettigrew be moved to OT? That may be officially the most ridiculous post in this thread. Ozzy you should send Race a thank you card

Wootylicous
11-11-2008, 03:57 PM
I think you could make an argument for Pettigrew to be drafted late as on offensive tackle this year; his blocking is that impressive. At the same time, he has great hands and body control as well as excellent athletic ability. On the other hand his character really should drop him a bit. If you need an immediate impact (closing window), then Pettigrew is easily the best choice. If your offense is still growing there's no reason your tight end can't grow with it, in which case getting a guy without all the baggage is more desirable.

that is the most ridiculous thing I ever read.

Gay Ork Wang
11-11-2008, 03:58 PM
that is the most ridiculous thing I ever read.
I hope he is joking at least for ur sake

iowatreat54
11-11-2008, 04:20 PM
on the Iowa players from this week

Bulaga is much better than Calloway, and is easily our best OL plus he is LT...and he is only a true Soph, so he has a lot of time/room to grow

this is Stanzi's first year starting, and while he has shown some promise, he is much better on the run than in the pocket, which has its positives and negatives...he is also not great at making his reads yet, and often stares down receivers horribly, as was shown on his pick in the PSU game...but I think a lot of this will be improved as he gets more experience

P-L
11-11-2008, 04:25 PM
Gresham certainly is no slouch when it comes to blocking ability. People just don't notice his blocking because Oklahoma rarely asks him to block.

LonghornsLegend
11-11-2008, 05:52 PM
Pettigrew is a beast of a blocker, but he can really catch and stretch the field better then people assume, he reminds me of Jason Witten and it's almost like people saying Witten can't catch as good as Winslow or Gates because he's a great blocker...Pettigrew will be a great downfield weapon for any team, he might not offer the versatility that Gresham does but I could still see him becoming the best TE from this class.


Asking him to be a lineman is insane, and not even worth disputing...His character concerns will knock him below Gresham in the draft but I like what he brings to the table and he's my favorite TE, I watched him a few times this year and he's a beast in the passing game or on the line.

Ozzy
11-11-2008, 08:33 PM
Jason Peters is the obvious player that has made a wonderfully successful transition from TE to OT, he was a real talented big man as a TE on Arkansas and anyone that did not see his potential did not watch him enough. Then you have Eric Winston who played TE his freshman year at Miami, and made the transition in college too OT and is now in the NFL. Now Pettigrew, it could work but why when he is good enough in the passing game? Now Greg Boone is a different story, Pettigrew just is not big enough and honestly why move him when he could be a great TE and an above average blocker.

Race for the Heisman, Nice thinking out of the box and projecting though, something few do to be honest with you. The transition can be done, but again I doubt Pettigrew does it because he is a good enough TE and can be good in both areas of the game, blocking and in pass catching.

gator3guy
11-11-2008, 08:53 PM
Yeah I heard that during the game, and basically almost every football player that has played some basketball is usually quite talented, or at least it seems to be. Few come to mind, Moss, Owens, Gonzalez, Gates, Randle El and to a lesser extent, Martellus Bennett, Justin Gage and Lebron James, oh wait;)

Barwin even has caught a few touchdowns this season for Cincy, and who knows he could even be a TE prospect as well, depends on where people want him a rush OLB or TE. Regardless, a big time sleeper prospect who will certainly get a look come draft time.

Yea I like this kid as a project as well. He looks well put together. Only seen him play once so I don't know what kind of speed he has, but he really caught my eye on that TD reception.

Ozzy
11-11-2008, 08:54 PM
on the Iowa players from this week

Bulaga is much better than Calloway, and is easily our best OL plus he is LT...and he is only a true Soph, so he has a lot of time/room to grow

this is Stanzi's first year starting, and while he has shown some promise, he is much better on the run than in the pocket, which has its positives and negatives...he is also not great at making his reads yet, and often stares down receivers horribly, as was shown on his pick in the PSU game...but I think a lot of this will be improved as he gets more experienceBulaga and Calloway have their strengths, Calloway seems to be better at pass blocking and Bulaga is better in run blocking. Both are young and so talented though, are more than half the reason why Iowa is good on offense. As for Stanzi, just got to love how he can make plays out of the pocket, sure has to get better in the pocket but the kid throws a nice touch ball and is clearly athletic and can move around and still make plays down the field. Will be very interesting to watch him develop.

SuperKevin
11-11-2008, 08:56 PM
Jason Peters is the obvious player that has made a wonderfully successful transition from TE to OT, he was a real talented big man as a TE on Arkansas and anyone that did not see his potential did not watch him enough. Then you have Eric Winston who played TE his freshman year at Miami, and made the transition in college too OT and is now in the NFL. Now Pettigrew, it could work but why when he is good enough in the passing game? Now Greg Boone is a different story, Pettigrew just is not big enough and honestly why move him when he could be a great TE and an above average blocker.

Race for the Heisman, Nice thinking out of the box and projecting though, something few do to be honest with you. The transition can be done, but again I doubt Pettigrew does it because he is a good enough TE and can be good in both areas of the game, blocking and in pass catching.

Jason Peters was also a 310 lb TE in college. Not too hard to transition to the OL. Pettigrew would have to gain like 40 lbs.

illmatic74
11-11-2008, 08:58 PM
Jason Peters is the obvious player that has made a wonderfully successful transition from TE to OT, he was a real talented big man as a TE on Arkansas and anyone that did not see his potential did not watch him enough. Then you have Eric Winston who played TE his freshman year at Miami, and made the transition in college too OT and is now in the NFL. Now Pettigrew, it could work but why when he is good enough in the passing game? Now Greg Boone is a different story, Pettigrew just is not big enough and honestly why move him when he could be a great TE and an above average blocker.

Race for the Heisman, Nice thinking out of the box and projecting though, something few do to be honest with you. The transition can be done, but again I doubt Pettigrew does it because he is a good enough TE and can be good in both areas of the game, blocking and in pass catching.Are you serious? Brandon Pettigerew the best senior TE moving him to OT really?

Ozzy
11-11-2008, 09:07 PM
edit: Are you serious? Brandon Pettigerew the best senior TE moving him to OT really?Might have to read what I said again.

SuperKevin
11-11-2008, 09:09 PM
I said he should more to OT where in my post? Like to argue much do you? Clearly he is not going to need to make that switch and will not.

Just explaining why Peters was able to successfully make the transition

illmatic74
11-11-2008, 09:14 PM
Might have to read what I said again.My bad it kind of sounded like you said that its all good.

Race for the Heisman
11-12-2008, 12:30 AM
Are you suggesting that Pettigrew be moved to OT? That may be officially the most ridiculous post in this thread. Ozzy you should send Race a thank you card

that is the most ridiculous thing I ever read.


Asking him to be a lineman is insane, and not even worth disputing...His character concerns will knock him below Gresham in the draft but I like what he brings to the table and he's my favorite TE, I watched him a few times this year and he's a beast in the passing game or on the line.

Are you serious? Brandon Pettigerew the best senior TE moving him to OT really?

For everyone that is questioning my sanity, I am NOT suggesting he move to offensive tackle. That would be stupid, as you have all so bluntly pointed out. I was merely stating that his blocking ability is at a level where, if he were not a tight end, you could make a case for drafting him as a tackle. Obviously tight end is his best fit. He has fantastic hands and great athleticism, which I alluded to. I was only playing up his blocking ability, nothing more.

Ozzy
11-12-2008, 08:57 AM
Nate Davis JR QB Ball State: Again, the kid flat out amazes, played another great game. Only real negative is the touch on his passes is a little off at times, he needs to control how he throws the ball a little more. Nonetheless, I say again he is probably the best ball handling QB I have seen this year. Does wonderful play fakes and pump fakes. Carries a good confidence about him on the field and I would love to see him play in the Senior Bowl against the other prospects in the nation. Sadly I bet he could easily go out early in this years draft and be drafted quite high. Who would not take the kid? Only insult to him outside of his lack of control throwing at times is the competition he plays. Then again you put him at QB on a big time school and he would most likely be better than one third of the starters out there.


MiQuale Lewis JR RB Ball State: Impressed again at RB, I like how he has strong legs and is able to squeeze through small holes in the line. Not a great prospect but is someone to watch.


Cory Sykes FR RB Ball State: Clearly got a system down now, they look for small running backs that are quick, and they run behind their big offensive line. Seems to work well in that conference and they have another RB just like Lewis waiting in the wings.

Ozzy
11-13-2008, 08:53 AM
USC vs. Cal game week 11


Kevin Thomas JR CB USC: He is playing wonderful CB on USC, his tackling ability is flat out impressive, he rarely lets any play get beyond him and always seems to be in the right position. He has so greatly improve over last year, does not even look like the same player.

Josh Pinkard SR CB USC: Flat out impressive, coming off of two seasons being injured. He is starting at CB and doing wonderful things. He is so stout in run defense, really packs a big punch, and with Thomas opposite him it makes USC almost impossible to run on with their overall team speed. Pinkard’s stock is really increasing and his versatility teams will love come draft day.

Cary Harris SR CB USC: Another USC corner who has so improved his game, he is playing the ball really well, showing a good break on the football and is slightly improving as a tackler. Was always talented but is having a solid senior season.

Will Harris JR SS USC: Back from the brink, playing wonderful SS for them. Really blitzing well, looks a lot more physically strong and is tackling much better. Watch out for him next year, could be a real good SS.

Anthony McCoy JR TE USC: Physically he is so impressive, such a big large man that is very fluid on the football field and runs well. Does not get the ball much but is a very impressive TE target.

Stafon Johnson JR RB USC: All this talk about Shonn Greene, when Johnson is the exact same player and is arguably faster and more versatile. He is just as stout, just as tough and really stronger than Greene is. If Johnson got Greene’s carries he would be right up there with him. Taking nothing away from Greene, but still Johnson needs more credit.

Christian Tupou SOPH DT USC: Nice looking young lineman, will make tackles away from the heart of the line of scrimmage. Moves well and could develop into something great.

Brian Cushing SR OLB USC: Love this kid, can literally do it all at linebacker and those that say he cannot blitz need to watch more closely. Nothing this kid cannot do at linebacker.




Cameron Morrah JR TE Cal: Very impressive athlete at TE, moves really well and always seems to find the open area on the field. If he had better QBs he would be having a much better season. Great looking young pass catching TE.

Nyan Boateng Cal JR WR Cal: Really starting to line his toughness, very good possession WR and he is not afraid to get hit, but he usually still holds onto the ball. Really starting to like this kid.
Darian Hagan SOPH CB Cal: Nothing amazing, but does show some promise and has good size and long arms as a corner. One to watch develop down the line.

Ryan Theimer FR Punter Cal: A young kicker to keep and eye on, he can really boom that ball.

Michael Mohamed SOPH ILB 6-3 225: Really fine young LB at Cal, will really shine next year when he is the man, he is fast, runs well and has good size.

Rulon Davis Cal SR DE 6-4 281: Physically impressive, powerful defensive end that is strong at the point of attack, could be a sleeper pick in the draft for sure.

ToldLikeItIs
11-13-2008, 09:10 PM
On Iowa players

Mitch King is the same player Jonathon Babineaux was, I think you'll see him drop 15 lbs to about 260, and split out to end, where he will be very good in a 4-3, and only a 4-3.

Bryan Bulaga wasn't named the only mid-season All-American Sophomore OL for nothing. He's a FOOTBALL player with great size and ability. Ran a 4.7 forty in HS at 270.

Jacody Coleman doesn't even start, Pat Angerer is the guy there. Coleman has some ability, but really struggles against the pass. Calling him a stud is a little premature.

Rob Bruggeman, our Center, is one to watch. Kyle Calloway played really well against Aaron Maybin, and certainly has size, but is very inconsistent.

It's way too early to talk about Stanzi, but he has stones, and forgets easily when things go bad.

Ozzy
11-19-2008, 12:33 PM
Week 12 prospect standouts

Brandon Hicks SOPH LB Florida: Really impressive against South Carolina, a long athletic linebacker, obviously undersized but showed some real playmaking ability and explosiveness. Should be seeing much more time on the field from now on.


Michael McAdoo FR DE UNC: Physical he is the ideal DE prospect, young, tall and quick. Watch out for him, he could be a star if he gets physically stronger and maintains his quickness off the edge.


Ahmad Black SOPH S Florida: Physically is a small safety but clearly makes plays all over the field, has great speed and is an athletic cover man.


Marcus Robinson FR DE Miami FL: Really broke out against Virginia Tech, clearly has great quickness off the edge and is built low to the ground but plays with surprising power. With the fact they are stacked at linebacker, he should develop into a fine speed rusher in the future.


Montel Harris FR RB Boston College: Nothing amazing as a running back, just gets the job done and knows how to break out into the open field and find holes. However I must admit, that offensive line is far more impressive than he is as a running back.


JoJo Nicolas SOPH S Miami FL: Nothing amazing but made some good physical plays this weekend. Filled the holes quickly and was a standup tackler. Physically looks built as well, and he is one to watch develop down the line.


Javarris James JR RB Miami FL: Great to see him back on the field, made some real nice plays down the field catching the football. Wish he ran the ball a little more but nice to see him back and looking forward to seeing what he can do on the field.


Reggie Youngblood SR OT Miami FL: Athletic lineman, has played a lot of football and will be a very solid pickup in the later rounds of the draft. A fine offensive tackle for any team to get.


Orlando Franklin SOPH OG Miami FL: Love this guys size and physical run blocking ability, moves really well for a man his size and should be an absolute beast when he becomes a senior, that is if he continues to improve and develop his game.


Cody Grimm JR LB/S Virginia Tech: Makes a lot of plays and is always around the football, plays linebacker however, but could possibly project to being a SS. Nonetheless, his coverage ability is still in question, he makes plays and will be interesting to watch him develop.


Donsay Hardeman JR S Illinois: Good physical safety, nice size and is a decent tackler. Is just a mold right now, could develop into a fine player but right now it is just he fits the mold, he just needs to fill it out more and play better.


Max Suter SOPH Return man Syracuse: Return guy, nothing amazing but did some great things last year as a freshman and is one to watch. However he clearly has many opportunities to return kicks because Syracuse is getting beat on the scoreboard so often.

Race for the Heisman
11-19-2008, 01:17 PM
A guy who really impressed me when I was watching Herzlich against BC was McLaughlin, the middle linebacker. I don't know if that game was a top performance from him, but he was only a tad less impressive than Herzlich, who looked pretty darn good.

Ozzy
11-19-2008, 01:42 PM
A guy who really impressed me when I was watching Herzlich against BC was McLaughlin, the middle linebacker. I don't know if that game was a top performance from him, but he was only a tad less impressive than Herzlich, who looked pretty darn good.Totally agree, I noticed that last week as well. McLaughlin is rock solid, he is fast, takes on blocks well and reads plays.

Herzlich, is just a stud, but one has to possibly realize that those two linebackers are playing so great because of Brace and Raji taking up the blockers. Still both linebackers are very good prospects.

Race for the Heisman
11-19-2008, 05:19 PM
Totally agree, I noticed that last week as well. McLaughlin is rock solid, he is fast, takes on blocks well and reads plays.

Herzlich, is just a stud, but one has to possibly realize that those two linebackers are playing so great because of Brace and Raji taking up the blockers. Still both linebackers are very good prospects.

What impressed me most though was not how they played in the run game, but how both seemed very effective in the passing game. McLaughlin especially had a few plays that looked like Cover 2 where he shadowed the guy close as he came into his zone and then stuck with him until the end of the play or the throw had been made. The way he (and Herzlich) just fly to the receiver in pass coverage was something I noticed, too; very aggressive pass defenders, and Herzlich is obviously quite powerful when attacking downfield to tackle.

Raji I just don't know. He'll have plays like the one against Notre Dame (I think?) where he'll push the guard back so far into the backfield the play is just dead, but other times it looks like he has no push, moreso in the passing game than in the running game. That could be playing disciplined against an athletic quarterback (I specifically noticed this against FSU) or it could be a so-so motor.

Ozzy
11-20-2008, 09:33 AM
Ball State vs. Central Michigan

Bryan Anderson JR WR Central Michigan: I need to watch a lot more of him, but he physically impresses with his great size, is a massive target and seems to be quite athletic.

Dan LeFevour JR QB Central Michigan: Honestly at times he looks more impressive than Tim Tebow at times because he actually gets the opportunity to throw. He does not seem like a run first QB, he seems like a pass first QB that just runs when he has too. His arm is nothing amazing but he clearly can pass the football and could potentially get better at it over time.

Antonio Brown SOPH WR Central Michigan: Tagged him last year and continues to improve and impress, he is a NFL prospect without question with his speed and big play potential.

Brandon Crawford JR DE Ball State: Real shame he is so old, physically he is very impressive, built like a rock and makes plays all over the field, is strong against the run and he finishes plays strong. Who knows, but I would be a lot more excited about him if he was younger. Then again their are former Marines in the NFL, so it still might be a possibility for him.

Nate Davis JR QB Ball State: Just continues to impress, sure he is not accurate 100% of the time but when he is on he is just wonderful. Quick release, like I said before, amazing ball handler and is a solid athlete. This kid can play QB, flat out.

georgiafan
11-20-2008, 10:05 AM
I wasn't impress with Lefevour espically his arm alot of his passes seemed to have a ton of air under them.

Ozzy
11-20-2008, 10:11 AM
I wasn't impress with Lefevour espically his arm alot of his passes seemed to have a ton of air under them.True, but that is kind of what happens when one plays in an offense like that, they do not develop the pro style passing ability early on and have to develop it actually in the NFL. As a overall prospect though there are a lot of things to like about him.

You have a guy like Nate Davis making pro throws and playing in a more pro style offense. Then you have a guy like LeFevour who plays in a trick play, misdirection and shotgun option offense. Sure it gets them wins in college but really hurts them in the NFL because it takes longer for them to develop.

DiG
11-20-2008, 11:31 AM
ozzy what do you think of the terps d'arel scott? he looks like he could have the tools for the nfl game. good size, blazing speed, north south runner that cuts well. he looked good in that unc game.

Ozzy
11-20-2008, 12:31 PM
ozzy what do you think of the terps d'arel scott? he looks like he could have the tools for the nfl game. good size, blazing speed, north south runner that cuts well. he looked good in that unc game.Oh yeah, of course, he is totally a NFL prospect. Like you said, nice size, good open field speed and has big play ability. I have him near the top of the pack with a great group of SOPH running backs this season. And considering three of them could leave early for the draft, next year Scott could potentially be a top 4 RB in what would be the 2010 JR RB class. He is really why Maryland is actually good this year, they finally have a legit RB, something they have not had for quite a long time, what since Jordan or something. Perry was good but not great and Lattimore was just ok.


Watching a little of that Ohio State vs. Illinois game...


Alex Boone SR OT Ohio State: People are going to sleep on this kid, he is a standout run blocker, needs to improve pass blocking but as a run blocker he blocks down field well, is quite chippy on the field and will be nasty at times. Could possibly play guard if need be I think. Sure might drop into the 2nd round probably but he is a 1st round talent. Just the fact he had so much promise, could be the next Orlando Pace, but since he has not lived up to that one almost assumes he is not that good when he actually is, just not when you compare him to one of the best OTs ever. Or at least that is what I did early on.

Jake Ballard JR TE Ohio State: Wonderful blocking TE, wow he is quite good at that, needs some work in the passing game but quite a nice looking blocking TE. And has just wonderful size at TE.

SuperKevin
11-20-2008, 12:40 PM
Alex Boone SR OT Ohio State: People are going to sleep on this kid, he is a standout run blocker, needs to improve pass blocking but as a run blocker he blocks down field well, is quite chippy on the field and will be nasty at times. Could possibly play guard if need be I think. Sure might drop into the 2nd round probably but he is a 1st round talent. Just the fact he had so much promise, could be the next Orlando Pace, but since he has not lived up to that one almost assumes he is not that good when he actually is, just not when you compare him to one of the best OTs ever. Or at least that is what I did early on.


Alex Boone could be a really nasty RT in the NFL but I have very little confidence in his ability to play LT. He's going to be abused by the speed rush in the NFL. Let him stay on the right and use his strengths at run blocking to your advantage