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Ozzy
09-16-2008, 02:51 PM
Because of my looking back to find players that were great as FR and SOPH in college then disappeared. I thought why not make a thread talking about those great prospects that you saw in college football who never really seemed to work out in the NFL. No granted, you must analyze college football prospects year in an year out and you have to go back and look at those old lists from the 2002 combine. Quite a fun time though, but maybe I am the only one. haha...Enjoy



*Jamar Fletcher CB Wisconsin
http://www2.jsonline.com/badger/image/2000/102800/fletch1028.jpg
Is there a more entertaining CB prospect than Fletcher to come along in the past 8 years? The kid had what seems like a hundred interceptions. He was such a ball hawk, totally changed the game and was a true playmaker. Speaks to his pass coverage ability that he is still in the league despite not being able to tackle with his small size and strength.


*Zeke Moreno ILB USC
He was a nut case on the football field, and in a good way. What a player, ran all over the place making tackles anywhere on the field. Had a shot in the NFL just never really became a great NFL player.


*Saleem Rasheed ILB Alabama
http://www.prideofthetide.com/biophotos/saleem2.jpg
One of the all time busts as a prospect at ILB, he was just so amazingly talented as a freshman. Never really got bigger and stronger though and actually his play decrease the more he played. Showed such great quickness to the football but did not improve off of his wonderful freshman season.


*Cedric Cobbs RB Arkansas
Talk about a horse at RB, had some of the thickest thighs of any RB I have ever seen. Was a beast on the field but could never really put it all together in terms of his talent and actually being productive. Great prospect though, what he could have been.


*Michael Wiley RB Ohio State
http://tysonwalter.com/images/wiley-game5.jpg
Is there a cooler RB than Michael Wiley? Honestly the guy was the scizzit on Ohio State. He ran with such a cocky confidence on the field, was small but tough as can be and quick through the hole. Just overall not a great enough athlete and could not stick around in the NFL.


Nat Dorsey OT Georgia Tech
A Monster of a man, had amazing strength and such a wonderful upside. Came out early if I can remember, and I guess he just never really got it together. What a wonderful prospect as a large OT with such raw strength. Still missing something though upstairs obviously, be it work ethic or flat out intelligence in preparation.

Ozzy
09-16-2008, 02:58 PM
*Devard Darling WR Washington State
http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/wast/sports/m-footbl/auto_action/a-darling100502.jpg
Such a fine looking prospect, ran great routes, and what I loved most about him is that he could go up in the air and get the football. Now granted thankfully he is still currently in the NFL I believe. Still, he should have been so much better than he is, great talent and confident pass catcher on the field.


*Quinton Caver OLB Arkansas
Very athletic and fast linebacker, made big time plays and big time hits. Obviously did not work out in the NFL, maybe he was too small or something. Nonetheless he was a great prospect in my eyes.


*Robert Johnson TE Auburn
http://auburn.wickens.ws/vi01052003/pictures/robert_johnson102.jpg
What a waste, he was such a flat out beast at TE. Such a huge man and he was so athletic. I remember his play against USC back in the day, where he jumped over a defensive player, now how many TE’s do you see doing that? Awesome prospect too bad he did not turn out.


*Teyo Johnson TE Stanford
Amazing target as a possible TE, had such long arms and I find it hard to even think of a bigger pass catching than him in the last 10 or so years. Was athletic enough to stretch the field but obviously could never pull off the switch to TE.


*Maurice Clarett
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0608/10.greatest.freshmen/images/Clarett_AP.jpg
I hesitate putting him on here because he messed up mentally more than anything, physically he could do it but his character is just awful. Great looking prospect though, how could you not love a RB with his size, power and ability to not only block but catch passes in the backfield. He was a true leader on the field too bad it all literally went to his head.

djp
09-16-2008, 03:05 PM
http://www.nd.edu/~clarinet/pictures/Newspagepics/Nets_NDvsMSU.jpg







http://images.usatoday.com/sports/college/_photos/2003-12-30-williams.jpg

SeanTaylorRIP
09-16-2008, 03:10 PM
Wali Lundy. Before the draft I was pegging him the next Priest Holmes and he started to make me look like a genius his rookie season, then he disappeared.....

Ozzy
09-16-2008, 03:16 PM
Oh reach in that bag of tricks man, I am talking older school players that are less known, not top 15 pick busts. If that was the case it would all be about Courtney Brown, Peter Warrick,Tony Mandarich, Ryan Leaf and Lawrence Phillips....haha

Anyway post who you like not just the standard ones that are mentioned. Personally it is all about players that are almost unknown but had great potential when in college.

hockey619
09-16-2008, 03:47 PM
One guy that immediately jumped into my mind was Dan Orlovsky of UConn, who got drafted in like 05 i think. When he was coming out, i thought the potential was there for him to be serious sleeper. He has great size at 6-5 and could move around a bit. He was a great leader taking UConn from no one to a bowl game and winning it. He just needed some fine tuning, but it just never came together for him. Im trying to think of some more, like i thought Cedric Benson was gunna be an animal in the NFL, but that hasnt happened, but Ill get back at it later.

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
09-16-2008, 04:09 PM
http://www.maxwellfootballclub.org/content/awards/maxwell/2001/action_dorsey2.jpg

My man Ken Dorsey. I loved him when he was the QB at Miami. I really thought that he could be a good quarterback in the NFL, but he only started 3 games while in San Francisco. Now he is behind Anderson and Quinn in Cleveland, so their is potential for him to be the #2 guy when the Browns part ways with either of the two. For Dorsey's sake he is at least still collecting a pay check unlike many of the others listed.

Brent
09-16-2008, 04:59 PM
http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/pkg/05NFLdraft/250/9077.jpg http://www.kenrye.com/Images/Pictures/RashaunWoods.jpg

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/24/249242.jpg http://www.bqb-site.com/bnealey.jpg

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/_photos/2006-04-24-linfield.jpg http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/31/310985.jpg

There are countless others but thinking back at these is disappointing.

P-L
09-16-2008, 05:25 PM
I too was a fan of Reggie McNeal. I thought he got way too much **** on this site because Future Scout overhyped him. I didn't think he'd be great, but I thought he could be a starting quarterback in the NFL.

Wootylicous
09-16-2008, 05:36 PM
Zeke Moreno is a beast in the CFL :P

TimD
09-16-2008, 05:56 PM
John Navarre

http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/images/navarre-john-1.jpg

Drew Henson
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40569000/jpg/_40569133_drew_heskin_gett.jpg

BeerBaron
09-16-2008, 06:08 PM
I liked Brett Basenez and thought he could at least catch on as a quality backup somewhere in the league....I think he's still hanging on in Carolina but the outlook isn't too bright...

Tony Hunt was a guy I thought would really excel in Philly as the bigger "thunder" back to compliment Westbrook. But no...they instead resign Buckhalter and cram Hunt at FB. He was great at PSU and I thought he really had a pro future

regoob2
09-16-2008, 06:58 PM
Jimmy Williams VT, I thought he was gonna be good.

Turtlepower
09-16-2008, 06:59 PM
Adam Archuleta. =(

Matthew Jones
09-16-2008, 07:25 PM
Looking back at the past few drafts...here are my top five per year.

2004:

WR Rashaun Woods, Oklahoma St. - Super production and seemingly a lot of tools but was one of the least-effective first-round picks I can remember.

WR P.K. Sam, Florida St. - Thought he'd add a dimension to New England but never really caught on and was gone fairly soon after being drafted.

DE Marquise Hill, Louisiana St. - A prototype 3-4 end that I kept waiting for a breakout season from, but was buried on depth chart and sadly died. R.I.P.

NT Anthony Bryant, Alabama - '04 or '05? Either way, a massive space-eater who I really enjoyed watching play for Alabama, but he was just too lazy.

CB Derrick Strait, Oklahoma - Couldn't catch on but was super productive in college and I thought the Jets had a huge steal when they drafted him.

2005:

RB Cedric Benson, Texas - Reminded me a lot of Ricky Williams coming out, but didn't even have those few years of success before busting.

WR Mike Williams, Southern Cal - Got a bad deal coming out of the NCAA early, and possibly could have succeeded had he stayed (but not likely.)

OT Michael Munoz, Tennessee - Didn't think he'd be nearly as good as dad, but thought he could be a serviceable starter. Retired right after the draft.

ILB Robert McCune, Louisville - Really liked this guy, he had the speed, size, and strength, but never put it all together. Is he still around?

CB Brandon Browner, Oregon St. - Thought he'd become a corner like Cromartie, but he fell out of the entire draft and was never heard from again.

2006:

RB DonTrell Moore, New Mexico - Saw him as a solid value in the fourth round or so, great guy who was just too small and too slow to make it.

WR Mike Hass, Oregon St. - An amazing college player, I loved him for his toughness and hands. He was the original Jordy on here as well.

OLB Bobby Carpenter, Ohio St. - Still on Dallas, but has done nothing with his career. Was tough, productive, and athletic, I thought he'd be a star.

OLB Spencer Havner, U.C.L.A. - Didn't have the athleticism to stick around in the league, although he was a superb collegiate linebacker.

ILB Kai Parham, Virginia - Seemed to be an ideal fit in a 3-4 defense, but ran a miserable 40-yard dash and was never able to hold down a job.

2007:

QB Chris Leak, Florida - Overcame adversity all throughout his career, but never really got a fair shot in the NFL due to height/arm/system concerns.

DE Quentin Moses, Georgia - Was once considered an elite prospect in the '07 draft, but has bounced around in the NFL with no production.

DE Mkristo Bruce, Washington St. - Fell into the gray area between being a 4-3 defensive end and a 3-4 rush linebacker, wasn't good enough at either.

OLB Earl Everett, Florida - Best known for sacking Troy Smith without a helmet on, Everett sabotaged his career by running a bad 40-yard dash.

ILB Jon Abbate, Wake Forest - Super productive in college but was way too small and slow. His brother died and saved five(?) lives with his organs.

SeanTaylorRIP
09-16-2008, 07:30 PM
I loved Joe Hamilton and Woody Dantzler in college. Also coming out of NCState I thought Koren Robinson was going to be amazing as well as Rod Gardner.

boogeydown
09-16-2008, 08:19 PM
I gotta go with my boy Peter Warrick. I loved this guy at FSU but his teammate Laverneus Coles at FSU has done well in the NFL.

princefielder28
09-16-2008, 08:23 PM
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0518/ncf_g_dayne_300.jpg

On Wisconsin!

SuperKevin
09-16-2008, 08:30 PM
http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/md/sports/m-footbl/01-02action/a-perry092201.jpg

Bruce Perry. One of the most productive offensive players in Maryland history.

ImBrotherCain
09-16-2008, 08:37 PM
Jimmy Williams VT, I thought he was gonna be good.

I second that. He was one of my all time favorite Hokies and the verdict on Adibi is way to soon to even judge but where he was drafted was way lower than what i was expecting going in to his senior year.

Ozzy
09-16-2008, 08:52 PM
*Matt Grootegoed S USC
http://www.castefootball.us/images/temp/c321f443b68933ab3522ca8e7d0cb549.jpg
What a ball player, made plays all over the field but really did not have a position. Too small for LB, too slow for a safety, thought he could make it on special teams but did not. Great player and was so productive and smart on the field.


*Carlos Joseph OT Miami FL
Was expected to be the next Bryant McKinne, was a huge man, good feet and had obvious power. However he just never really developed and produced on the field and was obviously too big and slow.


*TA McClendon RB NC State
http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper920/stills/4192a3aa78e96-45-1.jpg
Great prospect, caught passes out of the backfield, had good size and quick feet. No idea what happened to him, he looked so good on the field at times. What a promising player but clearly was not as athletic as he should have been and injuries did hurt him.


*Brandon Kennedy DT North Texas
Was a beast, obviously short at 5-10, but was a monster inside and quite an impressive athlete. Guess he could never get the right leverage and got pushed around too much by bigger guards and centers in the NFL. Wish he would have turned out, would have been really fun to watch on the field.


*Kwame Cavil WR Texas
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_OK_yVgXvuPs/Rg1oP7GWsDI/AAAAAAAAD5M/zklc5bx_5JI/picturetue4.jpg
Great target, did not have very good speed but he had amazing hands and was a nice short range pass catcher. Wonderful body control as well, but in the end his lack of speed caught up to him.

Ozzy
09-16-2008, 09:00 PM
*Taylor Jacobs WR Florida
http://sports.espn.go.com/media/ncf/2002/0831/photo/a_jacobs_i.jpg
Was a awesome WR prospect, has good speed, awesome hands and runs perfect routes. Still in the league but never has been that dangerous or that productive.


*Ahmad Childress DT Alabama
Was a beast, huge man, just a giant. Looked very promising as a young player but obviously was just way to big and way to slow. Fun to watch him play in college though, he was a monster.


*Chris Simms QB Texas
http://www.aerojockey.com/fark/simms.jpg
He was really hated in college, I must admit but I always liked him. Loved his throwing arm and really he was a lot better college QB than most people think. Was a major sleeper in the NFL but honestly has never got his chance, has proven he can play on the Bucs but teams just do not take a chance on the kid.


*Ciatrick Fason RB Florida
Was a beast in college, most probably remember him. Tall RB, not the best from side to side but was speedy straight line as a runner, guess he was just too easy to tackle in the open field and was not shifty enough. Fine prospect though as a long tall RB.


*Andre Maddox S NC State
http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/21/217169.jpg
Was a real hit man in college, could really bring it to any receiver. Problem is that he was not great in pass coverage but his toughness and tackling ability is easily as good as some of the safeties in the NFL right now.

Ozzy
09-16-2008, 09:01 PM
*Shyrone Stith RB Virginia Tech
http://www.vtnetletter.vt.edu/sept99/a-stith-1128.jpg
Did a dumb thing and came out too early, was a aggressive strong little back with wonderful quickness. With another year in college he could have had the chance to learn the game more and possibly have more success in the league.


*Shannon Snell OG Florida
Guy was a best, huge man, very strong but just did not turn out. Was always ok and Florida but never great, used his size too much and never developed any skill to go along with it.


*Jabari Holloway TE Notre Dame
http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/nd/sports/m-footbl/99action/a-holloway-101699.jpg
What a great target, a huge man, ran good routes and had really soft hands. Was a real surprise that he did not turn out in the league. What a shame, he was quite the talent.


*Todd Watkins WR BYU
Had wonderful ball skills, great hands and could run perfect routes. Looked like a poor man's Larry Fitzgerald at times, however he never became that great. I assume it is because of his lack of speed and lack of ability to consistently go up in the air and come away with the football.


*Anttaj Hawthorne DT Wisconsin
http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/image/2004/11/06/017015467.jpg
What a waste, had major character issues. Overall though in college he was great, always got consistent pressure on the QB from the inside, was tough and nasty in the middle. Guess his character issues and short arms finally caught up to him.

Ozzy
09-16-2008, 09:16 PM
I too was a fan of Reggie McNeal. I thought he got way too much **** on this site because Future Scout overhyped him. I didn't think he'd be great, but I thought he could be a starting quarterback in the NFL.Totally agree, I loved him as a QB prospect. It was odd because he could really, really throw the football. I think if he was on a different team and had different coaches he had the arm strength and potential to be a great QB. However he was too good of an athlete and just never got it all together. Really one cannot be a great athlete and be a great QB, because one has to give and rarely will the great athlete stop using that athletic ability to focus on his pocket sense and looking down field. Awesome prospect though, but late in his college career it was clear he did not reach his potential and had troubles as a QB with his accuracy.


Bruce Perry. One of the most productive offensive players in Maryland history.Totally agree, loved him but then what he got injured or something and just totally lost his ability.


I gotta go with my boy Peter Warrick. I loved this guy at FSU but his teammate Laverneus Coles at FSU has done well in the NFL.Yeah he is one of the coolest college football players in college football history. Why he could not carry over his quickness and leadership to the NFL I still wonder about. He was ok for a little but just was not a real threat and did not make people miss like he did in college. However most could have been from all the FSU hype around him that possibly made him look better than he really was.

Ozzy
09-16-2008, 09:22 PM
DE Marquise Hill, Louisiana St. - A prototype 3-4 end that I kept waiting for a breakout season from, but was buried on depth chart and sadly died. R.I.P.
I disagree, he was a monster on New England and when he played he did just wonderful. If they would of had Seymour and Hill, wow what a pare of 3/4 DE's. Rest in piece, very sad that he passed away.

RB Cedric Benson, Texas - Reminded me a lot of Ricky Williams coming out, but didn't even have those few years of success before busting.
Honestly I hated him in college, always connected him with being a baseball player and being a wuss, turned out I was right...haha

DE Quentin Moses, Georgia - Was once considered an elite prospect in the '07 draft, but has bounced around in the NFL with no production.
Yeah I had him the top DE at one point, was a SOPH and JR he was amazing, then kind of tailed off then fell off. Lost his quickness and power it seems for some reason

ILB Jon Abbate, Wake Forest - Super productive in college but was way too small and slow. His brother died and saved five(?) lives with his organs.
Totally agree, I loved him in college ever since he was a FR. Great prospect and surprised he could not find his way into the NFL

SMoore
09-16-2008, 09:39 PM
http://ghostofhalas.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/kennedy_i.jpg
Jimmy Kennedy - Huge d-tackle part of a great Penn State defense. Never really caught on and plays for Jacksonville now.

http://images.sportinglife.com/07/10/330/330_Kevin_Jones_Detroit_Lions_587219.jpg
Kevin Jones - Big time recruit out of high school. Had a pretty good career at VA Tech. Looked like he was going to be a pretty good pro but is constantly injured and just can't stay on the field.

Ozzy
09-16-2008, 09:54 PM
*Will Derting ILB Washington State
http://media.scout.com/media/image/27/270930.jpg
Was a monster as a FR and SOPH, had wonderful power and speed despite being someone stocky. Never really played well later in his career though after showing great promise. Is really one of my favorite prospects because he was a farm kid, too bad his career did not end like it started.


*Trev Faulk ILB LSU
Great player, played along side Bradie James but never had the success in the NFL he did. Was a little undersized but made plays all over the field, just not athletic enough in the end though.


*Demetrius Summers RB South Carolina
http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper863/stills/42306ad473bd9-28-1.jpg
Other issues are at hand but I remember how great he looked as a FR. He was quick as could be and despite being very small ran really hard and could make people miss all over the field.


*Marcus Houston RB Colorado/ Colorado State
Amazing as a freshman on Colorado, but never reached his hype. Was quick and ran the ball very smooth but just was not the great athlete and was basically all hype. Just not a powerful and strong enough runner.


*Matt Ware S UCLA
http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper344/stills/r3rz8ys5.jpg
His size was impressive, wonderful prospect, even played CB at times which was flat out amazing to see a player his size do that. Never really turned out though, was not a powerful enough tackle and lack ball skills in pass coverage big time. As a young prospect though, wow was he so impressive!

DoWnThEfiElD
09-17-2008, 10:10 AM
http://www.mikedesimone.com/m03/illinois/dn07.jpg
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/statitudes/news/2000/12/31/heisman_bowls/salaam.jpg
http://hailtopurple.com/cde/rose1996autry.jpg

Brent
09-17-2008, 10:17 AM
Kevin Jones
when he came out he was Scott's number 1 RB, if I remember correctly.

Ozzy
09-17-2008, 10:28 AM
Ernest Shazor, wow that brings one back. He was a monster in college, guess he was just too slow to protect the pass. Was a big time hitter but that does not mean anything and could not make the change to LB like fellow star Michigan safeties did in Tommy Hendricks and Cato June.

http://www.mikedesimone.com/mpix99/nddn9.jpg
Which brings me to Hendricks, that guy was a freaking player, surprised he made the move ok to LB, but was never anything special on the Dolphins.

drowe
09-17-2008, 10:42 AM
Omar Jacobs. he was a first round prospect for about a minute and a half.

Sniper
09-17-2008, 10:56 AM
http://www.ontheclockdraft.com/images/profiles/DwayneJarrett1.jpg

USC WR Dwayne Jarrett. I give players three years before I consider them busts, but Jarrett isn't exactly lighting it up on a poor receiving corps. A possible college HOF, but right now, not much of an NFL player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JebemqUKRwA

Michigan RB Tim Biakabutuka. Still holds the record for most rushing yards in the Michigan/Ohio State game (313). ******* injuries

Two off the top of my head. I'll do more later.

Sniper
09-17-2008, 10:58 AM
Ernest Shazor, wow that brings one back. He was a monster in college, guess he was just too slow to protect the pass. Was a big time hitter but that does not mean anything and could not make the change to LB like fellow star Michigan safeties did in Tommy Hendricks and Cato June.

http://www.mikedesimone.com/mpix99/nddn9.jpg
Which brings me to Hendricks, that guy was a freaking player, surprised he made the move ok to LB, but was never anything special on the Dolphins.

Shazor refused to move to OLB.

king_of_all
09-17-2008, 11:10 AM
Alex Van Pelt QB Pitt

Was a very good QB, last a while in the NFL but never really lived up to the potential I thought he had.

Brent
09-18-2008, 12:25 PM
Omar Jacobs. he was a first round prospect for about a minute and a half.
Half this board was in love with him, myself included.

Fogartynyy2789
09-18-2008, 12:34 PM
Half this board was in love with him, myself included.

Myself included.

1. Chad Jackson WR Fla
2. Najeh Davenport RB/FB Mia
3. Shane Walton CB Notre Dame

jnew76
09-18-2008, 01:36 PM
http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper920/stills/410433b5a997c-13-1.jpg

Craphonso Thorpe was an incredibly gifted athlete with great size and incredible speed who was fast becoming a great WR at FSU before shredding his ankle. I think he is still in the league, but was never the same after the injury. I don't know what it was that I liked so much about C. Thorpe, but I was convinced he would be the next great NFL WR before he got hurt.


Also on Will Derting - I think he basically retired before the draft because his body was completely broken down from playing football. He decided to commit to the family farm instead of trying to make a go of it in the NFL and I think he made the right choice.

D-Unit
09-18-2008, 02:45 PM
ILB Kai Parham

http://www.nationalchamps.net/2005/sub/pics/small/virginia_kai_parham_sm.jpg

ILB Ahmad Brooks

http://www.nationalchamps.net/2005/sub/pics/small/virginia_ahmad_brooks_sm.jpg

So weird that Darryl Blackstock made it and these 2 didn't. That was one wicked LB Corps.

Brent
09-18-2008, 04:20 PM
So weird that Darryl Blackstock made it and these 2 didn't. That was one wicked LB Corps.
I remember in NCAA when the were all three like rated really high how hard they were to run against.

hellrazor
09-18-2008, 04:36 PM
anthony poindexter ss/uva
was an absolute beast at viriginia but torn acl ruined his career. should have came out after his junior year.

NIN1984
09-19-2008, 10:41 AM
Daryl Blackstock and Darnell Bing.

Paranoidmoonduck
09-19-2008, 11:07 AM
Not that I didn't see bust potential in Ahmad Brooks, but there was I time that I was convinced he was going to be a top 5 pick and a stellar linebacker in the NFL.

MetSox17
09-19-2008, 11:19 AM
Cedric Benson, Chris Simms, BJ Johnson, Travis Johnson, Ryan Moats, Mike Williams, Michael Boulware, AJ Nicholson, Boss Bailey, Batman Carroll, Onterrio Smith, Marcus Tubbs, Andre Woolfolk

scottyboy
09-19-2008, 11:23 AM
the Rams idiotic use of Leonard makes me cry on a daily basis.

Turtlepower
09-19-2008, 11:26 AM
David Pollack

http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/media_content/m-8315.jpg

Damn injuries ended his career waaaaaaaay too early. He could've been damn good. Sorry Bengals. =(

Brent
09-19-2008, 01:31 PM
Couple guys from 1-AA:
-Jamaal Branch (Colgate)
-Dustin Long (SHSU)
-Craig Ochs (Montana)
-Erik Meyer (Eastern Washington)

cdub11
09-19-2008, 02:05 PM
Andre Wadsworth

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/fsu/sports/m-footbl/auto_action/41374.jpeg

Woody56
09-19-2008, 02:42 PM
I thought of a few from the 04 draft

RB Joe Echemandu

RB Tatum Bell

WR Darius Watts

TE Ben Troupe

LB Teddy Lehman

DT Donnell Washington

CashmoneyDrew
09-19-2008, 03:06 PM
Cedric Benson, Chris Simms, BJ Johnson, Travis Johnson, Ryan Moats, Mike Williams, Michael Boulware, AJ Nicholson, Boss Bailey, Batman Carroll, Onterrio Smith, Marcus Tubbs, Andre Woolfolk

Don't remind me.

I thought of a few from the 04 draft

RB Joe Echemandu

RB Tatum Bell

WR Darius Watts

TE Ben Troupe

LB Teddy Lehman

DT Donnell Washington

Again, don't remind me.

Hokie_Pokie08
09-19-2008, 03:10 PM
ILB Kai Parham

I remember watching him in high school and thinking that there was no way that he wasn't going to make it to the NFL and succeed once he got there. He was a football that just didn't perform well in shorts and a t-shirt.

Staubach12
09-19-2008, 04:31 PM
I loved Reggie McNeal coming out. I also really liked Skyler Green. I thought he had the ability. There's tons more, but those were two of my favorites in '05. I've actually been pretty good in past years. Wanted Dallas to draft Cromartie and Bowe the year after that.

WildBill34a
09-20-2008, 10:23 AM
What was the big linebackers name that played for Oklahoma the year they won a national championship? They interviewed him at the end of the game,you couldn't understand a word he said! (Torrance Marshall?)

Cedric Cobbs-RB
Quentin Caver-LB
Ron Dayne-RB
Peter Warrick-WR
Dan Alexander-RB/FB
Rocky Calmus-LB
batman-CB
Brian Bosworth-LB
Robert Gallery-OL
Eric Crouch-QB
Mike Williams-OL
Ryan Nece-LB

ATLDirtyBirds
09-20-2008, 11:02 AM
I was a big Mike Williams fan.

SuperKevin
09-20-2008, 11:49 AM
I always liked Andy Katzenmoyer. Too bad he had a spinal injury that forced him out of the league after a year. The New York Times recently ran an article about him.

CashmoneyDrew
09-20-2008, 11:55 AM
Watching the N.C. St. game reminded me of T.A. McClendon. He had a hell of a freshman year but then fought injuries his sophomore and junior years. Came out as a junior and went undrafted. I thought he was going to be a player.

bspen4
09-20-2008, 08:09 PM
Quincy Morgan from KSU.

Sniper
09-20-2008, 08:18 PM
I was a big Mike Williams fan.

Huge BMW fan. Huge Dwayne Jarrett fan too.

BlindSite
09-20-2008, 08:36 PM
Dwayne Jarrett was just overwhelmed as a rookie. Last week against chicago Delhomme only had like 130 yards passing and the week before he played decently enough, almost had a touchdown, but got leveled in the endzone from behind.

He's coming along nicely. Next year when Muhammad drops off and Hackett's deal isn't re-newed he'll surprise people.

Sniper
09-20-2008, 08:43 PM
I hope so. I was touting Jarrett as the #2 WR behind Calvin Johnson.

MetSox17
09-20-2008, 09:02 PM
I'm a huge Jarrett fan as well. I was kinda upset when we didn't have a chance for him in the first round, then when the Panthers took him ahead of us in the second. Hopefully he pans out, he was an absolute beast in college.

JLaw45
09-21-2008, 03:40 AM
CB Brandon Browner, Oregon St. - Thought he'd become a corner like Cromartie, but he fell out of the entire draft and was never heard from again.



If anyone cares, Browner has been tearing up the CFL for a couple of years now.

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/sports/story.html?id=6b41ef3c-bfdb-41d4-a88f-c5a71ec1068d

P.K. Sam is up there to now.

Cribbs>Hester
09-21-2008, 07:13 AM
Since 1999 I have been doing a little thing I like to call "Super 6" and these are some of the biggest flops I've had since 1999. Some are unfair such as injury like Big Kat, Courtney Brown, David Pollack and Cadillac Williams and other are just too early to deam bust like Ronnie Brown, Manny Lawson, Bobby Carpenter and Robert Meachem, but each of these were part of my final Super 6 and have failed in the NFL:

Andy Katzenmoyer
Courtney Brown
Toniu Fonoti
Charles Rogers
Robert Gallary
David Pollack
Cadillac Williams
Ronnie Brown
Manny Lawson
Bobby Carpenter
Robert Meachem

703SKINS202
09-21-2008, 11:24 AM
http://www.centralohio.com/ohiostate/stories/20021002/football/205122-75378.jpg

By far Charles Rogers. He did things to me, I can't believe all his talent went to waste.

SuperKevin
09-21-2008, 11:34 AM
Since 1999 I have been doing a little thing I like to call "Super 6" and these are some of the biggest flops I've had since 1999. Some are unfair such as injury like Big Kat, Courtney Brown, David Pollack and Cadillac Williams and other are just too early to deam bust like Ronnie Brown, Manny Lawson, Bobby Carpenter and Robert Meachem, but each of these were part of my final Super 6 and have failed in the NFL:

Andy Katzenmoyer
Courtney Brown
Toniu Fonoti
Charles Rogers
Robert Gallary
David Pollack
Cadillac Williams
Ronnie Brown
Manny Lawson
Bobby Carpenter
Robert Meachem

Let Meachem get a chance to play before you deem him a bust. He was inactive all last year.

Ozzy
09-21-2008, 04:37 PM
Also on Will Derting - I think he basically retired before the draft because his body was completely broken down from playing football. He decided to commit to the family farm instead of trying to make a go of it in the NFL and I think he made the right choice.That is too bad, I loved that kid as a player but obviously just got worn down, too bad he was not able to get into the NFL though. Farming is just fine though and I bet he is having a blast.


Andy Katzenmoyer
Courtney Brown
Toniu Fonoti
Charles Rogers
Robert Gallary
David Pollack
Cadillac Williams
Ronnie Brown
Manny Lawson
Bobby Carpenter
Robert MeachemNot after today? haha However honestly though outside of a few of these guys, most might be busts draft wise but they are still in the NFL. The only guys who are not had injury issues. Oh and Ronnie Brown? Not after what he just did the Patriots, I say he is doing just fine.


What was the big linebackers name that played for Oklahoma the year they won a national championship? They interviewed him at the end of the game,you couldn't understand a word he said! (Torrance Marshall?)

Cedric Cobbs-RB
Quentin Caver-LB
Ron Dayne-RB
Peter Warrick-WR
Dan Alexander-RB/FB
Rocky Calmus-LB
batman-CB
Brian Bosworth-LB
Robert Gallery-OL
Eric Crouch-QB
Mike Williams-OL
Ryan Nece-LB
Glad to see someone else saw how wasted the talented of Cobbs and Caver was.

Agree on Alexander, that kid was a beast on Nebraska, good big back with ok speed but obviously is not a FB. However clearly was not fast enough for RB thus a classic tweener. Eric Crouch could have been fine in the NFL, but his obsession with playing QB hurt him, if he stood by just trying to make a team and play where they want he was athletic enough to be a fine safety or receiver.



And good call on Darnell Bing, that kid was awesome but obviously way too slow to play safety. I am scared that might be the same case for the brilliant (literally) Myron Rolle.

Don Vito
09-21-2008, 05:05 PM
I think Jarrett will be a solid player. I really wanted the Pats to pick him if we took a WR (before the draft day Moss trade).

Cribbs>Hester
09-21-2008, 05:08 PM
Since 1999 I have been doing a little thing I like to call "Super 6" and these are some of the biggest flops I've had since 1999. Some are unfair such as injury like Big Kat, Courtney Brown, David Pollack and Cadillac Williams and others are just too early to deam bust like Ronnie Brown, Manny Lawson, Bobby Carpenter and Robert Meachem, but each of these were part of my final Super 6 and have failed in the NFL:

Andy Katzenmoyer
Courtney Brown
Toniu Fonoti
Charles Rogers
Robert Gallary
David Pollack
Cadillac Williams
Ronnie Brown
Manny Lawson
Bobby Carpenter
Robert Meachem

Let Meachem get a chance to play before you deem him a bust. He was inactive all last year.


Apparently you missed this part of my post.

Xonraider
09-21-2008, 05:30 PM
Ahmad Brooks, ILB, Virginia.

I really liked him as a LB. I even wanted Oakland to take him. He then fell to the 4th round and got lost, and now I know nothing about him.

Ernest Shazor, S, Michigan.

I remember being very high on this guy, then he went undrafted, picked up by Arizona, then got lost.

Ozzy
09-21-2008, 05:44 PM
*David Terrell WR Michigan
http://www2.jsonline.com/packer/image/01draft/terrell.jpg
One of the biggest disappointments as a receiver I have seen. Wonderful college player, played with great grace and skill. Was amazing at getting jump balls, had great hands and made plays after the catch. Guess he was just not physically able to keep improving his strength and speed and became just an average athlete.


*Willie Middlebrooks CB Minnesota
Great big CB, was not an amazing ball skills player but he tackled well and came out early because of his potential. Could have been a fine, solid cover corner who was not flashy but was consistent but character issues destroyed all of that.


*Todd Husak QB Stanford
http://www.netitor.com/photos/schools/stan/sports/m-footbl/99-00action/a-husak-090499.jpg
I loved how he could throw a football, very nice smooth release, seemed to have good accuracy and a nice pocket sense. However things did not work out and he never really got his chance.


*Ronney Daniels WR Auburn
Made a dumb move and came out early, was a little slow but I always remember him killing Florida in the Swamp as a receiver on Auburn. Skilled player and could have used more time to work on his skills in college.


*Mike McMahon QB Rutgers
Was a fine prospect in college, became a joke in the NFL though. In college he showed great mobility in the pocket, had a good strong arm and was a confident player despite going through trouble at Rutgers. Was good enough to play and start for multiple teams but clearly things did not work out the way they could have for him.

saintsfan912
09-21-2008, 05:47 PM
Cecil Collins. Dude was beast mode at LSU then, just like a damn idiot, couldn't stay out of jail. Had all the talent in the world, just a ******** brain.

Ozzy
09-21-2008, 05:52 PM
*Greg Eslinger C Minnesota
http://espn.go.com/media/ncf/2005/0829/photo/eslinger_320.jpg
Still shocks me how he did not make the Broncos roster, one would think he is a perfect center for that offense. He is a great athlete, moves ridiculously well and was the main blocker for the one and only Marion Barber in college, oh and that other guy Maroney. Shocking how he did not make a zone blocking team, my guess is he could not hold up against the nose tackles in the NFL and got over powered because his natural weight is about 260-270.


*Ken Yon Rambo WR Ohio State
Was a great deep threat WR on Ohio State, I also loved how confident and cocky he was on the field. He would have been much better if he had better QB’s throwing him the ball in college which ultimately did not allow him to improve his skills.


*Drew Tate QB Iowa
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/mark_beech/09/21/inside.iowa/t1_tate.jpg
Loved him as a QB prospect, had a great arm, and was a intense competitive kid. Loved that about him, but his decision making his senior year was horrible, looked very promising as a younger player but did not improve and made too many mistakes. Oh and he was quite short and had a odd release. Great player to watch though in my opinion.


*Ike Charlton CB Virginia Tech
Big time CB, was great in coverage, hard tackler as well. Is a real shame he did not turn out, he had much more promise than Midget did on that Virginia Tech team. Would have loved to see him in college more though.


*Matt Bernstein FB Wisconsin
http://assets.espn.go.com/media/ncf/2004/0927/photo/a_bernstein_i.jpg
Was a beast blocker, was basically almost an offensive lineman. However guess he just did not have the speed to keep up to the NFL game and was not a good enough athlete.

Ozzy
09-21-2008, 05:58 PM
*Anthony Lucas WR Arkansas
http://www2.jsonline.com/packer/image/00draft/lucas.jpg
I liked his size as a receiver and he was very fluid on the field. Was a good athletic deep threat and always seemed to press the issue and get yards down field. Not sure why exactly he did not work out, too bad though I liked him as a player.


*Julian Battle CB Tennessee
Was a wonderful prospect, played some CB and S, was 6-2. Thought he would for sure be a fine CB. Had good pass coverage skills and tackled good enough in the open field. His early time in the league did not work out too well, got some player time but clearly did not impress enough.


*Gary Berry S Ohio State
http://www2.jsonline.com/packer/image/00draft/berry419.jpg
Awesome prospect, loved him as a hitter in the backfield, made tackles all over the field and was a good safety blanket. Loved watching him on the field, just was a playmaker.


*Terna Nande LB Miami Ohio
http://www.daytondailynews.com/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/sports/media/TernaNande.jpg
Loved him as a prospect, big thick, raw LB with wonderful strength and speed, did not have ideal height but he packed a big punch. Clearly is not really around anymore, a shame because he had some wonderful raw ability.

Ozzy
09-21-2008, 06:06 PM
*Major Applewhite QB Texas
http://lastrow.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/major.jpg
Wonderful on the field leader, just wonderful, he was a cocky aggressive quarterback that really knew how to play. His arm was quite strong for his size, obviously his height was an issue but still the kid could play and was totally worth being a backup longer than he was. Watch out, he will be the next Texas head coach.


*Bradley Jennings LB Florida State
Was a monster LB, I loved him and how he hit so hard when he tackled. My guess is though that he did not have the pass coverage skills to play in the league. Still a wonderful college player that hit like a ton of bricks.


*Wendell Bryant DT Wisconsin
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2002/draft/players/images/bryant_wendell.jpg
One of the few players I put on here that got drafted really had, but I just had too. His failure was injury related I believe. I loved him as a college player though, what a pass rusher from his DT spot. Was almost unable to block, destroyed offensive lineman, too bad he had to get injured.


*Jamaal Brimmer S UNLV
http://www.unlv.edu/webcgi/pd/thumbs/sports/jamaalBrimmer.jpg
A big tall safety, wonderful tackler, played all over the field. However he ran a horrible 40 at the combine and he must have just been too slow to play in pass coverage. Loved how he played against Wisconsin back in the day though, he was all over the field in that game.

JLaw45
09-22-2008, 07:06 PM
*Terna Nande LB Miami Ohio
http://www.daytondailynews.com/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/sports/media/TernaNande.jpg
Loved him as a prospect, big thick, raw LB with wonderful strength and speed, did not have ideal height but he packed a big punch. Clearly is not really around anymore, a shame because he had some wonderful raw ability.

Nande is hanging on just barely. The BC Lions of the CFL just signed him last week. There's a chance we could see him give the NFL a shot again, albeit a slim one.

http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/?id=3718409

Drew Tate and Ken-Yon Rambo are both in the CFL and Rambo has been a star up there for a while. Tate has been hanging around for two years as a 3rd stringer. Time will tell if he'll move up.

Speaking of college prospects in other leagues, does anyone remember Darian Durant?

http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/2002Preseason/pics/darian_durant.jpg

I loved him back at UNC. Glad to see he's making a mark up north.

Ozzy
09-22-2008, 07:28 PM
Drew Tate and Ken-Yon Rambo are both in the CFL and Rambo has been a star up there for a while. Tate has been hanging around for two years as a 3rd stringer. Time will tell if he'll move up.No offense but playing in the CFL is a failure in my book, who wants to be a star in a 2nd tear league? And I sure hope they will dominate in that league, but rarely will a player play well in the CFL then go to the NFL and be a star. Sure it can and has happened but very very rarely.

Ozzy
09-22-2008, 07:30 PM
Darian DurantOh yeah I remember that guy, not nearly as talented as Curry but he was a good solid QB, too bad that UNC team was not very talented.

ammandss
09-23-2008, 09:46 AM
My three are all Virginia players (obviously):

QB Matt Blundin - He had a strong arm and played both basketball and football just like one of my all-time favorites Terry Kirby. He did not throw an interception his entire senior regular season, which was a record at the time. I think Trent Dilfer did it the following year with more pass attempts. He was drafted in the 2nd round by the Chiefs and remained the backup to Joe Montana.

DB Anthony Poindexter - I loved him as a freshman and the diving play to stop Warrick Dunn at the one yard line endeared him in all Virginia fans' hearts. He was one of the hardest hitters in college football but also a ball-hawker. He was projected to be a first rounder as a junior but wanted to come back to Virginia to compete for a championship. Towards the end of the season he tore up his ACL, PCL and MCL and his football career was basically over. The Ravens took a chance on him by drafting him in the 7th round but he never stuck in the league. Interestingly, when Michael Vick declared for the NFL Draft he said one of the reasons for coming out is that he didn't want to get injured like Anthony Poindexter.

LB Kai Parham - (I know someone already mentioned him) He was a stud DE coming out of HS and played in the shadow of Ahmad Brooks. When Brooks went down in their junior year, Parham was a beast for Virginia. He is a super strong and bulky MLB and definitely needed to stay one more year at Virginia. He ran a 5.0 in the 40 and then improved to a 4.95 and killed his draft status. Dallas signed him as a free agent and I thought he'd stick since they play the 3-4 but it just never worked out.

Brent
09-23-2008, 11:44 AM
Ahmad Brooks, ILB, Virginia.

I really liked him as a LB. I even wanted Oakland to take him. He then fell to the 4th round and got lost, and now I know nothing about him.
Niner picked him up off waivers recently from the Bengals. He's been inactive as he's learning the defense.

DreadedDatSkinsFan
09-23-2008, 04:16 PM
Hands down...My favorite college player ever man....P-Dub

http://www2.jsonline.com/badger/image/other/pete104.jpg

Thought he was gonna have a Garry Clark typre career in the NFL...Still one of the greatest NCAA players ever IMO...

Derrick Gibson

http://news.technology.findlaw.com/legalnews/sports/images/floridastate/gibsontackle.jpg

Injuries ruined this guy...Was the "prototypical" safety like Sean Taylor...Troy P...and Taylor Mays

Martin Nance

http://www.checkoutmycards.com/CardImages/Cards/020/329/05b.jpg

Big Bens target...Had size and good hands

Rodrique Wright

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/26/263087.jpg

Should have left after his Junior year...Had so much damn talent!

DreadedDatSkinsFan
09-23-2008, 04:28 PM
Add R Jay Soward weedhead arse
Sylvester Morris
David Greene
Fred Gibson
Tay Cody
Kalimba Edwards
Darnell Bing
Abdul Hodge
Willie Reid
Chris Davis

Ozzy
09-23-2008, 08:37 PM
Rodrique WrightI loved him as well, what in the world happened to him? Did he get injured or something? Honestly that kid was a total baller, I agree I loved him as a prospect as well.

I also agree Peter Warrick was one of the coolest college football players ever. Just flat out the shizzit

neko4
09-23-2008, 09:03 PM
http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper872/stills/3f8b95118e273-43-1.jpg

Although I was pretty sure he wasnt going to be good

oldLibid21
09-23-2008, 09:09 PM
Marcus Vick... I was kinda excited to see how he would do in the NFL, but I wasn't a close follower of any type of college football when I was at that age. I was only starting to like football. So yeah... am I the only one surprised by how bad Marcus Vick was in the NFL?

http://www.virginiatechjersey.com/marcus_vick.jpg

draftguru151
09-23-2008, 09:18 PM
I loved him as well, what in the world happened to him? Did he get injured or something? Honestly that kid was a total baller, I agree I loved him as a prospect as well.

I also agree Peter Warrick was one of the coolest college football players ever. Just flat out the shizzit

He played with a shoulder injury his senior year that he had surgery on when he got to the Dolphins that caused him to miss his rookie season. He's been an ok 3-4 DE but nothing special. Decent back up guy at best at this point.

JLaw45
09-23-2008, 09:45 PM
No offense but playing in the CFL is a failure in my book, who wants to be a star in a 2nd tear league? And I sure hope they will dominate in that league, but rarely will a player play well in the CFL then go to the NFL and be a star. Sure it can and has happened but very very rarely.

I understand that it isn't the NFL, but I've personally always just been happy to see college stars who couldn't crack the NFL at least make an impact someplace, be it in the AFL or the CFL. It's just kind of a "feel good" thing to know that they got to suceed somewhere.
I really liked guys like Tate and Durant, but they barely got a shot in the NFL. At least we know they'll make a mark somewhere at the professional level, rather than just disappearing into complete obscurity.

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
09-23-2008, 10:43 PM
http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper872/stills/3f8b95118e273-43-1.jpg

Although I was pretty sure he wasnt going to be good


He is currently the backup to Ryan Dinwiddie on the Winnipeg Blue Bombers.

YAYareaRB
09-23-2008, 11:41 PM
QB - Eric Crouch

http://journalstar.com/content/articles/2007/05/02/sports/doc4637ef8c49a45254637952.jpg

Just one of my ALL TIME favorite players in CFB History. He was a playmaker in college and I think he never got a fair chance in the league. I swear he had an arm.. I SWEAR IT!!!

HB - Luke Staley

http://jarenwilkey.com/images/sportsGallery/LukeStaley_2001.jpg

Injuries are a b****..



More to come...

bigG
09-24-2008, 03:07 AM
Wow I saw that someone mentioned Will Derting. I remember one bowl game he shut down the other team basically by himself. When I was younger I thought Michael Bishop was the best QB in the country. He never really did anything in the league but played well in the CFL. Andy Katzenmoyer was probably the most athletic linebacker I have ever seen at the college level. Neck injuries ruined his career. My favorite player of all time though had to be David Pollack. I think he epitomizes this whole thread. He was an undersized highshcool legend that dominated with technique and heart. Injuries also ruined his NFL career, but I dont know if he ever was going to succeed at linebacker in a 4-3. I tried to emulate how he played.

ammandss
09-24-2008, 09:17 AM
He played with a shoulder injury his senior year that he had surgery on when he got to the Dolphins that caused him to miss his rookie season. He's been an ok 3-4 DE but nothing special. Decent back up guy at best at this point.

I think Tamarick Vanover goes along with Peter Warrick. I think Vanover average like 50 yards per kickoff return at least halfway through the season. I'm not sure what he finished the year at. I think Vanover got drafted by the Chiefs and then sucked.