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Cribbs>Hester
09-22-2008, 07:10 AM
*Trades and Sigings was all your idea CJS*
Noteable Players On The Move:
Chad Ocho Cinco traded to Tampa Bay for 2nd
Anquan Boldin traded to Dallas for 1st
Roy Williams signs with Minnesota
Jordan Gross signs with Kansas City
Stacy Andrews signs with Philadelphia
Terrell Suggs signs with Arizona
Albert Haynesworth signs with Kansas City
Karlos Dansby signs with Cleveland
Mike Perterson signs with Cincinnati
Bart Scott signs with New Orleans
Angelo Crowell signs with Indianapolis
Nnamdi Asomugha signs with New Orleans
Chris Gamble signs with Green Bay
Draft Day Trades:
Cleveland trades Derek Anderson and #4 to Chicago for 2nd and #10
New England trades #18 and 2nd to Seatle for #11
San Francisco trades # 19 and 2nd to New Orleans for #12
1. Kansas City 0-3 :: Matthew Stafford QB Georgia
2. St. Louis 0-3 :: Michael Oher OT Mississippi
3. Detroit 0-3 :: Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
4. Chicago(Cleveland) 0-3 :: Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri
5. Cincinnati 0-3 :: Rey Maualuga ILB USC
6. Houston 0-2 :: Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
7. Miami 1-2 :: George Selvie DE/OLB South Florida
8. Oakland 1-2 :: Andre Smith OT Alabama
9. New YorkJ 1-2* :: Chriw Wells RB Ohio State
10. Cleveland(Chicago) 1-2 :: Tyson Jackson DE LSU
11. New England(Seattle) 1-2 :: Vonte Davis CB Illinois
12. San Francisco(New Orleans) 1-2 :: Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma
13. Minnesota 1-2 :: Tim Tebow QB Florida
14. Jacksonville 1-2 :: Percy Harvin WR Florida
15. San Diego 1-2* :: William Moore S Missouri
16. Indianapolis 1-2 :: Vince Oghobaase DT Duke
17. Atlanta 2-1 :: Taylor Mays S USC
18. Seattle(San Francisco) 2-1 :: C.J. Spiller RB Clemson
19. New Orleans(New England) 2-1 :: Aaron Curry OLB Wake Forest
20. Tampa Bay 2-1 :: Fili Moala DT USC
21. Arizona 2-1 :: Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State
22. Washington 2-1 :: Darius Butler CB Connecticut
23. Philadelphia(Carolina) 2-1 :: Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
24. Pittsburgh 2-1 :: Antoine Caldwell C Alabama
25. Philadelphia 2-1 :: Ciron Black OT LSU
26. Green Bay 2-1 :: Duke RObinson OG Oklahoma
27. Baltimore 2-0 :: Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
28. Tennessee 3-0 :: Darius Heyward-Bay WR Maryland
29. Buffalo 3-0 :: James Laurinaitis LB Ohio State
30. New YorkG 3-0 :: Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma
31. Denver 3-0 :: Brandon Spikes ILB Florida
32. Arizona(Dallas) 3-0 :: LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh
33. Kansas City :: Kraig Urbik OG Wisconson
34. St. Louis :: Greg Hardy DE Mississippi
35. Detroit :: Victor Harris CB Virginia Tech
36. Cleveland :: Jason Smith OT Baylor
37. Cincinnati :: Jamon Meredith OT South Carolina
38. Houston :: Mike Mickens CB Cincinnati
39. Miami :: Patrick Chung S Oregon
40. Oakland :: DeMarcus Granger DT Oklahoma
41. New YorkJ :: Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest
42. Cleveland(Chicago) :: Charles Scott RB LSU
43. Seattle :: Travis Beckum TE Wisconson
44. New YorkG(New Orleans) :: Vance Walker DT Georgia Tech
45. Minnesota :: Joe Burnett CB Central Florida
46. Jacksonville :: Phil Loadholt RT Oklahoma
47. Seattle(NE through SD) :: Aaron Kelly WR Clemson
48. Indianapolis :: Darry Beckwith ILB LSU
49. Atlanta :: Brian Cushing OLB USC
50. New Orleans(San Francisco) :: Herman Johnson OG LSU
51. New England :: Everrette Brown DE/OLB Florida State
52. Cincinnati(Tampa Bay) :: Courtney Green S Rutgers
53. Arizona :: Derrick Williams WR Penn State
54. Miami(Washington) :: DeAngelo Smith CB Cincinnati
55. Carolina :: Peria Jerry DT Mississippi
56. Pittsburgh :: Brian Robiskie WR Ohio State
57. Philadelphia :: Arian Foster RB Tennessee
58. Green Bay :: Michael Hamlin S Clemson
59. Baltimore :: Brandon Lafell WR LSU
60. Tennessee :: B.J. Raji DT Boston College
61. Buffalo :: Alex Mack C California
62. New YorkG :: Brian Orakpo DE Texas
63. Denver :: Darryl Richard DT Georgia Tech
64. Dallas :: Max Unger OL Oregon
Cleveland:
1. Tyson Jackson DE LSU
2. Jason Smith OT Baylor
2. Charles Scott RB LSU
4. Otis Wiley FS Michigan State
6. Diyral Briggs DE/OLB Bowling Green
abaddon41_80
09-22-2008, 07:34 AM
I don't think the 49ers will be drafting a QB, let alone trading up for one, in the first couple of rounds if JTO keeps it up
Cribbs>Hester
09-22-2008, 07:38 AM
I don't think the 49ers will be drafting a QB, let alone trading up for one, in the first couple of rounds if JTO keeps it up
Look where it got us counting on a flash in the pan Derek Anderson? Not to mention that J.T. O'Sullivan is going to be 30 already at the start of next season.
eaglesalltheway
09-22-2008, 07:49 AM
Good for the Eagles, not stellar, but I wouldn't flip **** with that. Crabtree is good, and so is Black, but other positions to watch out for are TE and FS. RB isn't a huge need for the Eagles, and we tend to wait until the thrid round or later, but the Safety out of Clemson, Hamlin, could be a possible pick at the end of the second for the Eagles. Chase Coffman, the TE from Mizzou, would also be a possible second round option for the Eagles.
Cribbs>Hester
09-22-2008, 07:54 AM
Good for the Eagles, not stellar, but I wouldn't flip **** with that. Crabtree is good, and so is Black, but other positions to watch out for are TE and FS. RB isn't a huge need for the Eagles, and we tend to wait until the thrid round or later, but the Safety out of Clemson, Hamlin, could be a possible pick at the end of the second for the Eagles. Chase Coffman, the TE from Mizzou, would also be a possible second round option for the Eagles.
I was thinking about Coffman as well, but you have another eagles fan who tells me that Brent Celek is your future at TE.
BeerBaron
09-22-2008, 09:08 AM
alright......Bears aren't 0-3 for one, and I know I've said this to you before and I'm pretty sure other Bears fans have too, we won't trade for DA, especially not now that he's been terrible.
boo.
Cribbs>Hester
09-22-2008, 09:20 AM
alright......Bears aren't 0-3 for one, and I know I've said this to you before and I'm pretty sure other Bears fans have too, we won't trade for DA, especially not now that he's been terrible.
boo.
No, but you are 1-2 and that is exactly what I have you listed. Also you didn't really trade for Derek Anderson you traded from #10 overall to 4th overall for just a 2nd round pick. Derek Anderson was really just a freebe because I want that worthless punk out of here.
Seriously do you think I believe he has any value? Most other Browns fans have been saying we can get a 1st and 3rd, or 2nd at worst for him. What have I been saying? Yeah a 3rd and that is what I believed the best case senario would be.
So you don't even want Derek Anderson for free? I can always have us trade him somewhere else for a 5th or 6th then.
saintsfan912
09-22-2008, 09:24 AM
Dude if that offseason happened I would prob flip out. NA, Curry and Herman? Word to that. Don't really care about Bart Scott, guess he could be a reliable backup.
Cribbs>Hester
09-22-2008, 09:26 AM
Dude if that offseason happened I would prob flip out. NA, Curry and Herman? Word to that. Don't really care about Bart Scott, guess he could be a reliable backup.
Why wouldn't he start at SLB?
I was thinking a defense like this:
DE Will Smith
DT Sedrick Ellis
DT whoever
DE Charles Grant
SLB Bart Scott
MLB Jonathan Vilma
WLB Aaron Curry
CB Nnamdi Asomough
CB Tracy Porter
FS whoever
SS whoever
BeerBaron
09-22-2008, 09:27 AM
No, but you are 1-2 and that is exactly what I have you listed. Also you didn't really trade for Derek Anderson you traded from #10 overall to 4th overall for just a 2nd round pick. Derek Anderson was really just a freebe because I want that worthless punk out of here.
Seriously do you think I believe he has any value? Most other Browns fans have been saying we can get a 1st and 3rd, or 2nd at worst for him. What have I been saying? Yeah a 3rd and that is what I believed the best case senario would be.
So you don't even want Derek Anderson for free? I can always have us trade him somewhere else for a 5th or 6th then.
well then you browns fans are delusional. I don't think anyone would have given you a first and 3rd last year when he was coming off of a pro bowl. Right now I'd prefer to stick with KO than go DA...
and btw, that bolded part just signifies a terrible way to go about making mock drafts
saintsfan912
09-22-2008, 09:28 AM
Because Fujita is still a good starter and a fan favorite. He's always around the ball and think he would be a better starter than Scott. Especially when Fujita knows the defense and Scott doesn't.
Cribbs>Hester
09-22-2008, 09:31 AM
well then you browns fans are delusional. I don't think anyone would have given you a first and 3rd last year when he was coming off of a pro bowl. Right now I'd prefer to stick with KO than go DA...
and btw, that bolded part just signifies a terrible way to go about making mock drafts
Dude what are you talking about? Thanks for reading the whole post :rolleyes:
I never believed he was worth a 2nd let along 1st and 3rd. So "you Browns fans" is a little harsh.
You haven't payed attention to anything I said so far, so I'll make on last attemt. You traded up from #10 to #4 with that 2nd. You didn't trade for Derek Anderson, so me wanting that punk out of here has nothing to do with my mock draft. It would still be the same regardless.
Cribbs>Hester
09-22-2008, 09:33 AM
Because Fujita is still a good starter and a fan favorite. He's always around the ball and think he would be a better starter than Scott. Especially when Fujita knows the defense and Scott doesn't.
I don't know of any DT's or Saftey's available in free agency to give you instead. I do believe you guys have a lot of money to spend if Benson chooses to spend it. What does your saftey situation look like anyway? Is Bullocks a keeper or do you guys need two safteys?
I give you Nnamdi because I think Oakland and Davis pissed him off with the big contract for the lesser player in DeAngelo Hall and he's going to want to play for a winner now.
bored of education
09-22-2008, 09:36 AM
Tank and Dorsey are looking like a very solid duo at DT. Boone and Edwards are fine as fill ins. If the Chiefs sign anyone it will be a RT and an MLB. I like the Stafford pick and the Urbik pick. Do you have Gross playing RT for the chiefs? If so then I don't mind the signing.
saintsfan912
09-22-2008, 09:37 AM
I hope NA feels that way as well.
Our safeties BLOW! Bullocks is good in run support but never gives over the top help like he is supposed to. I love Harper as a run stopper too but he's a little slow in coverage. KK(White guy, don't know how to spell his weird name.) is a piece of ****.
BeerBaron
09-22-2008, 09:39 AM
Dude what are you talking about? Thanks for reading the whole post :rolleyes:
I read the whole post. :rolleyes:
I never believed he was worth a 2nd let along 1st and 3rd. So "you Browns fans" is a little harsh.
"You Browns fans" comes from where you said "most other browns fans." Even if you don't believe, it signifies to some degree that Browns fans must be delusional because no team, anywhere, ever would even think about giving a 1st or 3rd or a 2nd or anything combination of those picks for Derek Anderson now. Not even after last year was he worth that or some QB starved team might have given it up for a guy coming off of a pro bowl year. They all saw he was a one year wonder and he's proving that now...
You haven't payed attention to anything I said so far, so I'll make on last attemt. You traded up from #10 to #4 with that 2nd. You didn't trade for Derek Anderson, so me wanting that punk out of here has nothing to do with my mock draft. It would still be the same regardless.
I haven't paid attention to anything you've said so far? How about those times where you meandered on over to the Bears forum saying we should send out a 2nd rounder for a "proven commodity at QB" or however you worded that about DA. We shot it down, you didn't listen. Ok, Don't listen to the 10 or so people who frequent over there and know a lot lot LOT about the Bears. When you follow something religiously, you get a halfway decent idea of their tendencies and the things they'll do...
So lets just can it eh? Your the Browns and unless theres an immediate turnaround, your not doing any better headed into the future than you have for the past decade of existence.
Cribbs>Hester
09-22-2008, 09:41 AM
Tank and Dorsey are looking like a very solid duo at DT. Boone and Edwards are fine as fill ins. If the Chiefs sign anyone it will be a RT and an MLB. I like the Stafford pick and the Urbik pick. Do you have Gross playing RT for the chiefs? If so then I don't mind the signing.
Yep. Thats where Gross played most of his career in Carolina, so I figured he could go back there fairly easy. With Albert, Gross and Urbik Kansas City could get back to their custom power running and dominate Oline.
No offense, but you're sipping some funny juice if you'd rather have Tank than Albert Haynesworth. There are no good MLB's on the makert. Mike Peterson is old and busted, and Ray Lewis will retire a Raven.
Cribbs>Hester
09-22-2008, 09:44 AM
I read the whole post. :rolleyes:
"You Browns fans" comes from where you said "most other browns fans." Even if you don't believe, it signifies to some degree that Browns fans must be delusional because no team, anywhere, ever would even think about giving a 1st or 3rd or a 2nd or anything combination of those picks for Derek Anderson now. Not even after last year was he worth that or some QB starved team might have given it up for a guy coming off of a pro bowl year. They all saw he was a one year wonder and he's proving that now...
I haven't paid attention to anything you've said so far? How about those times where you meandered on over to the Bears forum saying we should send out a 2nd rounder for a "proven commodity at QB" or however you worded that about DA. We shot it down, you didn't listen. Ok, Don't listen to the 10 or so people who frequent over there and know a lot lot LOT about the Bears. When you follow something religiously, you get a halfway decent idea of their tendencies and the things they'll do...
So lets just can it eh? Your the Browns and unless theres an immediate turnaround, your not doing any better headed into the future than you have for the past decade of existence.
"You Browns fans" includes me which is a false statement.
2nd rounder? Quit putting words in my mouth for the last time. I've never asked more than a 3rd rounder that being the max I thought we'd get for him. Apparently you didn't read that part either instead just said you did.
bored of education
09-22-2008, 09:53 AM
Yep. Thats where Gross played most of his career in Carolina, so I figured he could go back there fairly easy. With Albert, Gross and Urbik Kansas City could get back to their custom power running and dominate Oline.
No offense, but you're sipping some funny juice if you'd rather have Tank than Albert Haynesworth. There are no good MLB's on the makert. Mike Peterson is old and busted, and Ray Lewis will retire a Raven.
Depending on who is in the front office next year and who is the HC will I think the Haynesworth deal happen. If its Peterson and Edwards: it won't happen since thye are in bed together and won't make any huge signings. They are revamping the entire organiation and won't go for any highly touted, large cap filling signings. If changes happen then I can see it happening. Give me Haynesworth over Tank any day, but from a philophical concept, it will only happen if Herm and Peterson are out of jobs.
T-RICH49
09-22-2008, 10:05 AM
Depending on who is in the front office next year and who is the HC will I think the Haynesworth deal happen. If its Peterson and Edwards: it won't happen since thye are in bed together and won't make any huge signings. They are revamping the entire organiation and won't go for any highly touted, large cap filling signings. If changes happen then I can see it happening. Give me Haynesworth over Tank any day, but from a philophical concept, it will only happen if Herm and Peterson are out of jobs.
which at this rate could very well happen
CJSchneider
09-22-2008, 10:06 AM
Ok, + rep for posting a mock with some trade predictions.
You really put it out there too making some bold ones. Now tell me it won't feel sweet when you rub in those predictions if in fact they do come to fruition.
Bart Scott signs with New Orleans
I can really see this one happening.
San Francisco trades # 19 and 2nd to New Orleans for #12
If the season ended today, NO would be the big winner here. I'll address the implications of this as I address the 49ers selections. This may be a poor trade for SF.
12. San Francisco(New Orleans) 1-2 :: Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma
With the book still open on JTO, they may not go 1st round QB here unless they can get Stafford or they see something special in Bradford (which could happen), thereby going with a WR. Harvin or Crabtree still being on your boards thats what I would do.
19. New Orleans(San Francisco) 2-1 :: Aaron Curry OLB Wake Forest
NO picks up another pick and gets a badly needed OLB, great selection.
50. New Orleans(San Francisco) : Herman Johnson OG LSU
Great pick and a great fit; and a Louisiana native. One needs to look no further than their loss to Denver yesterday to see that the picks you made for NO are both badly needed. Great job with your NO selections.
rockio42
09-22-2008, 10:07 AM
I can't argue with that draft for the Rams at all
CashmoneyDrew
09-22-2008, 12:13 PM
I don't think there's a shot in hell that the Titans let Albert Haynesworth walk after this season. They might make him the highest paid defender in the league after this season.
vidae
09-22-2008, 12:23 PM
The Chiefs really aren't ones to sign big name free agents. boe said it best, if Carl/Herm are here it probably will not happen, not to mention I don't see Gross leaving Carolina. As far as Haynesworth is concerned, he will command a lot of money. Not sure we'd go for that, though Dorsey, Haynesworth and Hali would be a very very disgusting dline.
With that being said, I like the Chiefs picks in your mock but anyone that thinks Herm deserves to be fired at this point really doesn't know what they're talking about.
Good mock.
edit: For future KC mocks, QB first is an absolute must at this point, but if there is a top LB who can play MLB in the NFL there in the second, think about giving them to us. MLB is a very big trouble spot for us right now.
Young Legend
09-22-2008, 12:34 PM
WR WR WR WR for the Raiders thats there biggest need Mario Henderson is doing a excellent job.
Babylon
09-22-2008, 02:11 PM
For Seattle i would go with Michael Crabtree rd 1 and Alex Mack in round 2 as opposed to CJ Spiller and Travis Beckum (seattle happy with John Carlson.
summond822
09-22-2008, 02:26 PM
18. Seattle(San Francisco) 2-1 :: C.J. Spiller RB Clemson
I don't like the Spiller pick. I know that RB is a position of need, but we're not going to be taking a guy like Spiller at the position. We need someone who can run in between the tackles, Spiller is more of a Bush-type back and I don't think that he would be a good fit in Seattle even under Mora.
A couple of players I think that we consider taking there are Aaron Curry, James Laurinitis, Malcom Jenkins, Crabtree, Heyward-Bey, or Duke Robinson.
I say Curry and Laurinitis b/c Leroy Hill is going to be a FA at the end of this season and he may get too expensive for them to bring back. He is a pro-bowl calibur player who is going to make big money this year and will finally be in the spotlight when he takes himself out of the shadow of Peterson and Tatupu.
Jenkins is just too much of a talent to pass up at that point.
Crabtree and Heyward-Bey would also add the explosiveness that Spiller does but they add depth to a position where we really don't know what we have anymore.
Robinson because we need depth at G and if he is actually worth a first round pick then he would be our G of the future and we might finally have a replacement for Hutchison.
43. Seattle :: Travis Beckum TE Wisconson
We picked a TE last year in the second. We're not going to take another one, especially as Carlson is emerging as Hasselbeck's go to target. He's leading the team in receiving. We don't go TE on the first day.
47. Seattle(NE through SD) :: Aaron Kelly WR Clemson
I don't really mind this pick, but if the Seahawks did actually draft Spiller in the first they would not take another player from the same school. It just goes against my instincts to see Spiller and Kelly tied together.
scottyboy
09-22-2008, 02:41 PM
Giants will not use a day one pick on a TE. Why should we? Boss' talent hasn't been in question by the Giants at all, he just hasn't been thrown to before last game. With bigger needs at safety, dt and olb, I don't see us picking a TE round one, or day one for that matter
eaglesalltheway
09-22-2008, 03:05 PM
I was thinking about Coffman as well, but you have another eagles fan who tells me that Brent Celek is your future at TE.
He hasn't shown enough, for me anyway, and I'm sure if Eagles fans would step back and look at things with normal eyesite, they would see that Celek just isn't there, at least not with what he's shown. He has the potential to be, but he does have great hands and is great with the ball in my hands. My thinking though is that if the organization viewed him as the future, he would at least be getting more playing time, no tto mention we franchise-tagged LJ Smith, which really makes me think that the organization doesn't see him as the future at TE. I just think that if we want an improvement over LJ at the TE position, we should look to draft a TE fairly early if the Eagles plan on doing that. Who was that Eagles fan, Sniper?
Cribbs>Hester
09-22-2008, 03:37 PM
Giants will not use a day one pick on a TE. Why should we? Boss' talent hasn't been in question by the Giants at all, he just hasn't been thrown to before last game. With bigger needs at safety, dt and olb, I don't see us picking a TE round one, or day one for that matter
I hate Giants and Eagles fans because one fans something and another fan says something else. I had you guys taking an OLB before, but one Giant fan said you guys didn't need a OLB.
scottyboy
09-22-2008, 03:41 PM
I hate Giants and Eagles fans because one fans something and another fan says something else. I had you guys taking an OLB before, but one Giant fan said you guys didn't need a OLB.
that was TP, he thinks we don't need one. It depends on how Wilk and Kehl preform, if Kiwi will move back etc. It's not a HUGE need, but I'd take one over a TE. The DT and DE are fine picks, we love pass rushers! :D
but I'm not a fan of the TE and think that could be used for a safety or even OL depth.
then again, thinking about it, we could grab the TE if he was BPA and use more 2 TE sets. idk, I'm so out of it today haha.
But I do feel a stud OLB would do wonders for our D instead of throwing Kawika Mitchells and Danny Clarks out every year
RaiderNation
09-22-2008, 03:50 PM
;1225500
Nnamdi Asomugha signs with New Orleans
NOOO!!!!! If we dont resign the best CB in the game, our defence will be worse than it allready is
scottyboy
09-22-2008, 03:55 PM
NOOO!!!!! If we dont resign the best CB in the game, our defence will be worse than it allready is
i didn't know you guys could somehow resigning Champ Bailey, damn.
RaiderNation
09-22-2008, 04:01 PM
i didn't know you guys could somehow resigning Champ Bailey, damn.
Champ did good last week when he got beat deep for a TD. Aso allowed 1 pass on him yesterday....... and he made the guy fumble
scottyboy
09-22-2008, 04:03 PM
Champ did good last week when he got beat deep for a TD. Aso allowed 1 pass on him yesterday....... and he made the guy fumble
..that's one game. Aso is excellent, just a superb CB, but Champ is the best in the league. One game doesn't change that.
pickles
09-22-2008, 04:36 PM
Look where it got us counting on a flash in the pan Derek Anderson? Not to mention that J.T. O'Sullivan is going to be 30 already at the start of next season.
FYI, Steve Young was 31 when he started his first full season with the 49ers.
That said, no JTO will never be a Steve Young but he should be good for at least a few seasons while we develop a QB that we draft in the 2nd or 3rd round. We can't keep drafting a Franchise QB every few years and pay premium $$$ for unproven talent and expect them to start day 1, our fan base is too impatient to allow a QB to develop on the field, I guess that's the down side of Montana and Young back to back.
princefielder28
09-22-2008, 05:12 PM
Go with Raji or Richard in round two for GB
Hines
09-22-2008, 06:47 PM
Hate to break it to you, but I think that is the worse Steeler mock I have seen. I like Caldwell, but if we were to go C in round 1, it will be Mack. Give us Black in that case. We just spent a second on a reciever last year. Add in Baker and Holmes and we have 3 WRs for the future. I do think we resign Nate. Give us Raji in that case.
Menardo75
09-22-2008, 07:02 PM
Look where it got us counting on a flash in the pan Derek Anderson? Not to mention that J.T. O'Sullivan is going to be 30 already at the start of next season.
Yeah but he does not have the wear and tear on him that most QBs do for his age. It won't happen and I doubt Bradford goes pro anyway.
Finsfan79
09-22-2008, 10:28 PM
miami has a crazy amount of money to spend next year for FA, I really see them signing someone with it
thebow305
09-23-2008, 12:24 AM
miami has a crazy amount of money to spend next year for FA, I really see them signing someone with it
Agreed. I know it's not BP's style to sign a lot of big name guys, but we have so much money it would just be foolish for him not to. I really hope Asomugha is one of them. If not NA, then hopefully at least Chris Gamble.
As for the mock, I LOVE the first round pick. If we don't sign one of those CB's, then Vontae will get some serious consideration there as well. I am not a big fan of the second round though. I don't know much about DeAngelo Smith, but I am not a fan of Chung AT ALL. I would much rather grab Alphonso Smith where you have Chung going, then grab Robiskie, Hamlin, or even Raji there over Deangelo.
How your mock played out, my favorite combo would be:
7) Vontae Davis
39) Brian Cushing
54) Brian Robiskie
BTW, keep the weekly mocks coming! I love this! Nice work again!
Hate the picks, but like the Gamble siging. We could finally correct the mistake of taking Carroll over him.
diabsoule
09-23-2008, 01:02 AM
First off, I love the signing of both Scott and NA. I hope that comes true, especially the signing of Scott, who I feel would be a very valuable addition to our LB's. I also love the trade w/ SF.
I would see him starting as our WLB which would give us a group of Fujita, Vilma, and Scott. Pretty formidable if you ask me.
I would then replace the selection of Aaron Curry (although I love it) with Fili Moala. He could then play alongside Sedrick Ellis giving us a great front 7. Grant, Ellis, Moala, Smith with Fujita, Vilma, and Scott.
Also, Herman Johnson is not a need in the 2nd Rd. for us, although I love big Herm. We drafted Carl Nicks last year and he looks like he will be taking over the LG spot sooner than later. Jahri Evans is a beast on the right side. Instead I'd go with either Alex Mack, Courtney Greene, Michael Hamlin, or Arian Foster.
BUSTKUNTLAWL
09-23-2008, 03:14 AM
That is just a brutal Bears pick.
Andre Smith, or Tebow make much more sense.
The Bears need a real wide out. Not a slot receiver & kick returner.
Cribbs>Hester
09-23-2008, 05:50 AM
That is just a brutal Bears pick.
Andre Smith, or Tebow make much more sense.
The Bears need a real wide out. Not a slot receiver & kick returner.
Jeremy Maclin is a real wide reciever. Hands down the best prospect at wide reciever in the last 2 years. Just because you're not 6'5 220 pounds and run a 4.4 doesn't mean you can't be a #1 get real...
Cribbs>Hester
09-23-2008, 05:51 AM
Hate to break it to you, but I think that is the worse Steeler mock I have seen. I like Caldwell, but if we were to go C in round 1, it will be Mack. Give us Black in that case. We just spent a second on a reciever last year. Add in Baker and Holmes and we have 3 WRs for the future. I do think we resign Nate. Give us Raji in that case.
Antoine Caldwell is soo much better than Alex Mack and Jonathan Luigs its quite disgusting. Antoine Caldwell also give far more versitility as he can play all three interior line spots where as Mack is a unknown.
Sniper
09-23-2008, 06:26 AM
Jeremy Maclin is a real wide reciever. Hands down the best prospect at wide reciever in the last 2 years.
No he's not. Michael Crabtree is a better prospect than Maclin.
Cribbs>Hester
09-23-2008, 06:33 AM
No he's not. Michael Crabtree is a better prospect than Maclin.
We'll see about that come sunday's.
Everyone wants to talk about Jeremy Maclin like he is Ted Ginn or something. I watched Ted Ginn every game of his career and he was never once the best wide reciever on the field. He couldn't break jams, Maclin can. He couldn't break tackles, Maclin can, He didn't go over the middle more than a handful of times his entire career, Maclin can handle the middle. Jeremy Maclin isn't just anything Ginn, Hester or Jackson. He's much better bulit physically for the game and he is still very fast.
Crabtree is a product of a great system. He's obviously the best talent they've ever had in their system, but non the less his starts are inflatted by that system. He's a 16-28 range prospect.
Cribbs>Hester
09-23-2008, 06:34 AM
NOOO!!!!! If we dont resign the best CB in the game, our defence will be worse than it allready is
Its not my fault Al Davis treated him like donkey dung.
Sniper
09-23-2008, 07:00 AM
We'll see about that come sunday's.
Sundays, not sunday's. You're from Ohio, it's understandable ;)
Crabtree is a product of a great system. He's obviously the best talent they've ever had in their system, but non the less his starts are inflatted by that system. He's a 16-28 range prospect.
He's still a better prospect than Maclin.
Cribbs>Hester
09-23-2008, 07:26 AM
For Seattle i would go with Michael Crabtree rd 1 and Alex Mack in round 2 as opposed to CJ Spiller and Travis Beckum (seattle happy with John Carlson.
Sorry Seattle fans. I forgot all about John Carlson.
Sniper, like I said we'll see about that. I'm going to hold it against you too. When Crabtree is sucking it up in the NFL and Maclin is making a huge impact I'll be sure to drop the "I told you so" bomb.
CJSchneider
09-23-2008, 08:12 AM
I would then replace the selection of Aaron Curry (although I love it) with Fili Moala. He could then play alongside Sedrick Ellis giving us a great front 7. Grant, Ellis, Moala, Smith with Fujita, Vilma, and Scott.
I like Moala also, I just think OLB is a bigger need on D then DT.
Also, Herman Johnson is not a need in the 2nd Rd. for us, although I love big Herm. We drafted Carl Nicks last year and he looks like he will be taking over the LG spot sooner than later. Jahri Evans is a beast on the right side. Instead I'd go with either Alex Mack, Courtney Greene, Michael Hamlin, or Arian Foster.
If not Herm Johnson, these two would be justa s good of a pick up , IMO
TitanHope
09-23-2008, 03:39 PM
I disagree that Haynesworth will be let go in FA, but he likely will be a FA come next offseason, so people are free to predict things. The thing is, Jim Schwartz is more likely to leave and become a head coach than Haynesworth signing somewhere else. That means that someone will become the new DC, and my instinct tells me it'll be Jim Washburn, the DL coach. With Fisher and Washburn at the helm, they'll do everything in their power to keep AH. The Titans are a contender after 3 years of rebuilding, and they can't stand to lose their best player. They have just as much cap room as anyone else, and will rival any contract offered. Besides, why would AH leave the team picking 28th for the team with the 1st overall pick when the amount of the contracts offered would be very close to each other?
As for the Titans picks, they're reasonable. Heyward-Bey, or anyone WR, is the predictable pick and has been for the past 2 drafts. B.J. Raji is the mountain DT that would replace Haynesworth, but the Titans DEF isn't a 2-gap scheme - ya gotsta run, run, run. They're not just gonna stick a fat guy in the middle to try to hold up 2 OL's. The NT has to be athletic, which is why AH is so very valuable and important. When Haynesworth comes out, a sub-300 pount DT comes out to take his place. In fact, Haynesworth, Tony Brown, and Jason Jones, the main rotation at DT, can all play DE as well. If B.J. Raji possesses that athleticism at his weight, then he'll be a steal at the end of the 2nd RD.
don5252
09-23-2008, 04:46 PM
i like the Bill's picks a lot but I dont know if Laurinaitis or Mack will fall that far. I think the Bills would be lucky if Mack was still on the board if they picked their
essential
09-24-2008, 11:38 AM
29. Buffalo 3-0 :: James Laurinaitis LB Ohio State
61. Buffalo :: Alex Mack C California
Now, I love the Alex Mack pick in the second. He is who I want with our first round pick, if we can get him in the second thats great even though I doubt he falls that far. As for Laurinaitis ... where would we play him? He is a pure MLB and I promise you that the Bills will never move Posluszny, they love him. Yes we need a OLB, but I don't think Laurinaitis can fill that role.
So you have the Panthers losing both Chris Gamble and Jordan Gross.
Without Gross, the Panthers are back to where they were last year before they acquired Otah in the draft after franchising Gross...one solid tackle but not much else at the position.
Without Gamble that means having to hold onto Ken Lucas, who has clearly lost a step (if not three), and hoping that they're able to re-sign Richard Marshall when he becomes a UFA the following year in what could be an uncapped year.
I could see them letting one walk since Peppers has to be re-signed as well, but if both walk I'll have lost all faith in the front office.
fenikz
09-24-2008, 01:50 PM
Cardinals will not trade Quan for anything but another franchise type player, we have him locked up until 2011
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