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Jughead10
10-08-2008, 07:11 PM
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/10/08/report-pacman-gets-in-a-fight/

Anyone else not suprised.

scottyboy
10-08-2008, 07:12 PM
just saw this on BBI, I'm betting you did too! haha

It IS pft, so I'm gonna wait before I believe it 100%, but no, I'm not surprised at all if true

yourfavestoner
10-08-2008, 07:14 PM
Meh...as long as charges aren't pressed then it doesn't really matter.

TitleTown088
10-08-2008, 07:35 PM
Meh...as long as charges aren't pressed then it doesn't really matter.

For Adam it does. You know Goodell is going to be irate. Pacman is just a damn fool.

Burns336
10-08-2008, 07:39 PM
**** me. ****.

princefielder28
10-08-2008, 07:40 PM
but he's a changed man........

M.O.T.H.
10-08-2008, 07:43 PM
just saw this on BBI, I'm betting you did too! haha

It IS pft, so I'm gonna wait before I believe it 100%, but no, I'm not surprised at all if true

I've seen multiple sources...someone posted it in the Cowboys forum a little while ago. No, I am not surprised. Luckily, we're prepared if something was to come of this. Nothing may come of it though, considering it was a scuffle w/ his own security.

Paul
10-08-2008, 07:43 PM
Right when he was starting to play well to.

FuzzyGopher
10-08-2008, 07:49 PM
Meh...as long as charges aren't pressed then it doesn't really matter.

Hasn't Goodell has suspended players in the past before charges are pressed? I'm pretty sure Pacman is on a short leash and there is zero tolerance regarding his bad behavior.

Burns336
10-08-2008, 07:50 PM
The hotel wont comment on the incident. Hopefully jerry puts them on the pay roll. We need this thug.

Number 10
10-08-2008, 08:06 PM
I don't think this is going to turn out to be anything.

bigbluedefense
10-08-2008, 08:06 PM
Its actually not as big of a deal as we think.

Afterall, isn't this why they drafted Mike Jenkins to begin with? Time to earn that paycheck young man.

As for Pacman...what can you say really?

Number 10
10-08-2008, 08:09 PM
And from what I have seen, Jones hasn't been playing all the great. A lot of missed tackles and he's been faked out on double routes routinely.

bigbluedefense
10-08-2008, 08:10 PM
And from what I have seen, Jones hasn't been playing all the great. A lot of missed tackles and he's been faked out on double routes routinely.

Some of that has got to be rust though. Im sure he'll improve steadily during the season, and will be a much better corner come playoff time.

M.O.T.H.
10-08-2008, 08:10 PM
And from what I have seen, Jones hasn't been playing all the great. A lot of missed tackles and he's been faked out on double routes routinely.

meh...it's been an up and down year. He did play great on Ocho Cinco and against the Bengals this past week, though. His best game yet. He's coming along, it's just going to take a while to shake off the rust...if he can stay on the field, that is.

Number 10
10-08-2008, 08:11 PM
Some of that has got to be rust though. Im sure he'll improve steadily during the season, and will be a much better corner come playoff time.

No doubt. It's just that the weaknesses in his game while in Tennessee are still there and I'm not sure he'll be the impact player they wanted. But hey, as a nickel back, you can't complain,

M.O.T.H.
10-08-2008, 08:13 PM
We should also be happy that he has been able to come in and start w/ Newman down. I didnt think he'd be ready for something like that but, he hasnt been killing us or anything and looks to be improving by the week. Hopefully, this turns out to be nothing.

bigbluedefense
10-08-2008, 08:14 PM
No doubt. It's just that the weaknesses in his game while in Tennessee are still there and I'm not sure he'll be the impact player they wanted. But hey, as a nickel back, you can't complain,

true.

I think Dallas fans have to be more worried about Wade Phillip's terrible coverages in his scheme more than anything else though.

Wade has always been great at creating pressure packages, but he's also always been terrible at drawing up coverages. You can have an all world secondary back there it wouldn't matter. Ask any Chargers fan.

You can pass on a Wade Phillips defense. Always have been able too. Unless the pass rush is ridiculous.

Number 10
10-08-2008, 08:17 PM
true.

I think Dallas fans have to be more worried about Wade Phillip's terrible coverages in his scheme more than anything else though.

Wade has always been great at creating pressure packages, but he's also always been terrible at drawing up coverages. You can have an all world secondary back there it wouldn't matter. Ask any Chargers fan.

You can pass on a Wade Phillips defense. Always have been able too. Unless the pass rush is ridiculous.

Their pass rush has been lacking as well, which is why I would be confident to play them right now. Ware has been his normal dominant self, but outside of him, nobody scares me. If you have a solid pass blocking line and receivers that get open, putting 24+ points on them should be easy. But that secondary is capable of making huge plays if QBs are forced into making tough, quick decisions.

Number 10
10-08-2008, 08:19 PM
For example...

BBD can you imagine the Giants had that secondary? Turnover central. But our secondary has lacked ball skills throughout the pass rush fest which has been the key reason they have stayed away from elite status as a whole.

bigbluedefense
10-08-2008, 08:20 PM
Their pass rush has been lacking as well, which is why I would be confident to play them right now. Ware has been his normal dominant self, but outside of him, nobody scares me. If you have a solid pass blocking line and receivers that get open, putting 24+ points on them should be easy. But that secondary is capable of making huge plays if QBs are forced into making tough, quick decisions.

I think Ware and Ratliff have been beastly. Everyone else though has been average at best in that front 7.

Ellis is getting older, but still reliable. Spencer is hurt. I think theyre better then theyre playing though, and expect them to turn it around sooner or later.

That defense is ranked 14th in the league I believe. Theyre better than that.

What surprises me about that defense is, theyve taken a step back this year stopping the run. Theyve always been a great run stuffing defense. This year, theyre ranked 10 in the league in rush defense. That is what surprises me more than anything. Ive always felt you can throw on that defense. But run on it? Im a little perplexed by that stat.

M.O.T.H.
10-08-2008, 08:20 PM
Ware hasnt been all that great this year actually...almost all of his sacks are coming in garbage time, when the outcome of the game has already been decided. Obviously, it's not all about sacks but, he hasnt been his usual dominant self in rushing the passer. It's been an inconsistant effort this season. He's been good but, not his normal self.

Number 10
10-08-2008, 08:22 PM
I think Ware and Ratliff have been beastly. Everyone else though has been average at best in that front 7.

Ellis is getting older, but still reliable. Spencer is hurt. I think theyre better then theyre playing though, and expect them to turn it around sooner or later.

That defense is ranked 14th in the league I believe. Theyre better than that.

What surprises me about that defense is, theyve taken a step back this year stopping the run. Theyve always been a great run stuffing defense. This year, theyre ranked 10 in the league in rush defense. That is what surprises me more than anything. Ive always felt you can throw on that defense. But run on it? Im a little perplexed by that stat.

It's the slanting scheme Phillips runs. High risk, high reward.

bigbluedefense
10-08-2008, 08:22 PM
For example...

BBD can you imagine the Giants had that secondary? Turnover central. But our secondary has lacked ball skills throughout the pass rush fest which has been the key reason they have stayed away from elite status as a whole.

Well, honestly, this year ive been very disappointed with our pass rush. It isn't nearly as good as last year. However, we've made up for it with much improved pass coverage.

They don't create turnovers, but they do a great job covering. Id put our secondary vs theirs quite honestly. I think Webster is playing on an elite level, and Ross is just as good if not better than Henry/Jones/Jenkins.

And if/when Terrell Thomas gets healthy, I pit him against their nickel CB as well. Phillips is doing great, the only duck is James Butler. But he can't be any worse than Roy Williams or Keith Davis/Pat Watkins.

bigbluedefense
10-08-2008, 08:23 PM
It's the slanting scheme Phillips runs. High risk, high reward.

you mean in terms of run stuffing?

Number 10
10-08-2008, 08:28 PM
you mean in terms of run stuffing?

Yup. I had my scouting mentor break it down for me. They, most of the time, have their down linemen slant into a gap and if that can be diagnosed before a play by a QB, they are screwed because of their momentum. Blockers just take them where they want to go and the RB knows exactly where the opportunity is going to be.

Number 10
10-08-2008, 08:29 PM
Well, honestly, this year ive been very disappointed with our pass rush. It isn't nearly as good as last year. However, we've made up for it with much improved pass coverage.

They don't create turnovers, but they do a great job covering. Id put our secondary vs theirs quite honestly. I think Webster is playing on an elite level, and Ross is just as good if not better than Henry/Jones/Jenkins.

And if/when Terrell Thomas gets healthy, I pit him against their nickel CB as well. Phillips is doing great, the only duck is James Butler. But he can't be any worse than Roy Williams or Keith Davis/Pat Watkins.

Really? Wow. I've loved the Giants pass rush, very disruptive. But we can discuss this another time before someone cries foul about talking about the Giants in this thread.

bigbluedefense
10-08-2008, 08:31 PM
Really? Wow. I've loved the Giants pass rush, very disruptive. But we can discuss this another time before someone cries foul about talking about the Giants in this thread.

yeah, we'll talk about it in the Giants team board.

Yup. I had my scouting mentor break it down for me. They, most of the time, have their down linemen slant into a gap and if that can be diagnosed before a play by a QB, they are screwed because of their momentum. Blockers just take them where they want to go and the RB knows exactly where the opportunity is going to be.

thats interesting. didn't know that.

CashmoneyDrew
10-08-2008, 08:59 PM
I'm so happy someone actually gave us a draft pick for this ass hole. Lavelle Hawkins baby!

21ST
10-08-2008, 09:04 PM
You can take the Pacman out of the strip club but you can’t take the strip club out of the Pacman.

So very very true

ChezPower4
10-08-2008, 09:06 PM
What a F*** up, some people just don't get it. At least this time it wasn't in a strip club. Maybe when he gets all loaded is when he starts to do stupid s***

LonghornsLegend
10-08-2008, 09:14 PM
At least that adds a 5th to us this up coming year from the Titans if he has to miss any time, so either way they are still the ones shafted in the deal, they have to pay for his screw ups, not us.

ChezPower4
10-08-2008, 09:23 PM
At least that adds a 5th to us this up coming year from the Titans if he has to miss any time, so either way they are still the ones shafted in the deal, they have to pay for his screw ups, not us.

But you still lose a good player, even though it doesn't hurt the cowboys that much because their very deep at CB

LonghornsLegend
10-08-2008, 09:26 PM
But you still lose a good player, even though it doesn't hurt the cowboys that much because their very deep at CB

Of course, and losing any good player would suck, but at least we would get something in return at their expense...Will hurt even worse with Newman having a sports hernia possibly, but if he wants to screw his life up you just have to move on, not gonna speculate what will or won't happen to him but it was still a good risk to take on him, especially since we had "insurance" in case something like this happened.

kwilk103
10-08-2008, 09:33 PM
big difference between hotel bodyguard and his personal bodyguard

holt_bruce81
10-08-2008, 09:37 PM
Does he get suspended? Roger Goodell is probably just a bit angry.

CashmoneyDrew
10-08-2008, 09:47 PM
Of course, and losing any good player would suck, but at least we would get something in return at their expense...Will hurt even worse with Newman having a sports hernia possibly, but if he wants to screw his life up you just have to move on, not gonna speculate what will or won't happen to him but it was still a good risk to take on him, especially since we had "insurance" in case something like this happened.

You're not gaining anything by pacman getting in trouble. You alreay paid a 4th to get him so it was like us trading a 4th rounder for a 5th rounder. We still come out on top.

ChezPower4
10-08-2008, 09:57 PM
You're not gaining anything by pacman getting in trouble. You alreay paid a 4th to get him so it was like us trading a 4th rounder for a 5th rounder. We still come out on top.

Dallas is still not out a draft pick, they just get a draft pick of lesser value

PackerLegend
10-08-2008, 10:56 PM
Hmmmm I remember in a previous thread someone trying to convine everyone Pacman had changed. While this incident isnt as bad, I said give Pacman time he will **** up again.

Turtlepower
10-08-2008, 11:22 PM
Goodell did say that he would punish teams that take players with character problems. I wouldn't be surprised if charges were filed that the Cowboys could lose a mid-round draft pick.

Burns336
10-09-2008, 12:09 AM
Even though we're deep, this hurts more than everyone on here seems to think.

The whole idea with having all these corners was that we were able to use some exotic coverages that now went out the window.

For example, we had been playing Pacman and Jenkins on the outside with newman in the slot and Henry covering the tight end while sometimes coming on a blitz.

Since Newman has been out, scandrick has taken over his slot role but Henry was still able to cover the TE.

I've even seen a package (maybe only 1 or 2 times all year) That had Newman, Henry, Pac, Jenkins, Scandrick, and Hamlin all on the field at once. I would assume if everyone was at 100% health we would see it more.

Newman is probably out 6 weeks with a sports hernia and if pacman gets suspended we go back to vanilla ********.

Basically we're facing the possibility of Henry and Jenkins on the outside with Scandrick in the slot. This means even bigger cushions than we've seen so far and more teams dinking and dunking their way down field on us at ease.

This can be a huge loss at this point. With the average pass rush and all of our pressure players coming down with I-cant-bring-down-the-qb-when-he's-in-my-hands-itis -- we could be shat on.

CashmoneyDrew
10-09-2008, 12:16 AM
Dallas is still not out a draft pick, they just get a draft pick of lesser value

I didn't say they were out of a draft pick. We were getting rid of Pacman no matter what, if we had to trade or cut him so we basically traded a 4th round pick for supposedly this 5th rounder we have to give them. I was only correcting the first poster about how he made it sound like Tennessee was the one that had to pay the price.

LonghornsLegend
10-09-2008, 12:27 AM
I didn't say they were out of a draft pick. We were getting rid of Pacman no matter what, if we had to trade or cut him so we basically traded a 4th round pick for supposedly this 5th rounder we have to give them. I was only correcting the first poster about how he made it sound like Tennessee was the one that had to pay the price.

My point is that we spent a 4th to get him, if he screws up we get a 5th this upcoming draft, who wouldn't take that deal? Yes we lose a round, but getting a 5th from Tenn for him screwing up on our team is still a steal, it's not like we spent a 4th and if he screws up we wasted a pick outright.

CashmoneyDrew
10-09-2008, 12:32 AM
My point is that we spent a 4th to get him, if he screws up we get a 5th this upcoming draft, who wouldn't take that deal? Yes we lose a round, but getting a 5th from Tenn for him screwing up on our team is still a steal, it's not like we spent a 4th and if he screws up we wasted a pick outright.

I'm just saying. You made it sound as if it was a lose, lose situation for the Titans. We got rid of Pacman and got a 4th too. If we have to give back a 5th, so be it...

DMWSackMachine
10-09-2008, 01:42 AM
This is nothing, people.

Obviously its not a good indication that he has truly "changed",.or what may you, but he certainly isn't going to be punished for getting into a little scuffle with his own bodyguard (at least that's how I've heard it reported).

More than likely, this will give Deion and Michael something to drive the message home with. This wasn't a brush with the law, no charges are being made, no law enforcement was involved, no strippers were involved and no drugs were involved.

Pacman is a dumbass, always has been, but this certainly can't be classified as a relapse into his previous ways.

All that said, is it a good sign? Definitely not.

DMWSackMachine
10-09-2008, 01:48 AM
A source close to Jones says the incident is being overblown, and that if there was a serious confrontation involving Jones causing police to be called to the scene surely an incident report would have been filed by the police department.



The Dallas Police Department said it needs a complainant to file an offense if an offense had occurred, but evidently after interviewing those involved in the incident there were no charges filed that would have led to an offense report. Evidently this is not the first time Jones has had differences with his body guard, who is charged with making sure Jones doesn’t go places he shouldn’t and keeping him out of confrontations with other people.



The NFL has had no comment on the report, but Jones’ timing was bad since NFL commissioner Roger Goodell was in town on Wednesday and even spoke to the entire Cowboys team following their afternoon practice.



Goodell did answer a question about Jones before news of the Tuesday night incident was reported, saying, “Adam knows how much emphasis I put on making good choices as he goes forward, that he avoids situations where he can reflect poorly on himself or the Cowboys or the NFL.”

http://www.truebluefanclub.com/blogs/writers_block.cfm?plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3a6f720d98-095f-4c2b-9bbb-88639ea813cbPost%3a76332648-a418-459e-aa5e-2a97b24b82bf&sid=sitelife.truebluefanclub.com


From the cowboys official site blog. Follow the link for the whole article. No big deal, though its interesting to hear that he has a body guard who is basically a baby sitter, :D.

Burns336
10-09-2008, 02:34 AM
"Someone from the business called police," Dallas police spokesman Cpl. Jerry Monreal told The Associated Press. "Police arrived and spoke to the parties after they had a verbal argument. Both parties agreed to leave, and they left."


So now the police are calling it a verbal argument.

Definitely not a good sign in terms of his longevity with the team, but sounds like this should be nothing.

Maybe a case of someone from the hotel looking for their 5 seconds of fame?

BlindSite
10-09-2008, 03:15 AM
Pacman was probably provoked by someone who wanted to brag they had a biffo with an NFL player, that being said, with his history he needs to keep his ass out of the clubs.

Hell, he's got millions, just have a big ass house party if you need to make it rain so bad, strippers can be available for private parties.

Brent
10-09-2008, 09:54 AM
The expectation is that Jones is likely to be called to New York to explain his conduct to Goodell, a source close to the player said. Jones' reinstatement is contingent upon his ability to conduct himself appropriately.
Doesnt matter if charges were filed. If Goodell think he did wrong, then he's going to get in trouble.

drowe
10-09-2008, 10:40 AM
damn. i think it's time the NFL just had him euthanized.

drowe
10-09-2008, 10:42 AM
..or, time to bring out the big guns



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/51/Pacman_title_na.png

PACKmanN
10-09-2008, 10:44 AM
Kind of defeats the reason of having a body guard....

LonghornsLegend
10-09-2008, 10:57 AM
Goodell did say that he would punish teams that take players with character problems. I wouldn't be surprised if charges were filed that the Cowboys could lose a mid-round draft pick.

The Bengals? Trust they would be first in line to lose any picks, they just recently resigned Chris Henry and Cedric Benson as well as everyone else in the past few years, nobody is going to get punished before them.

Burns336
10-09-2008, 12:26 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3634226



THANK GOD

Edit: Playfulness that turned into a brief scuffle, huh? I can see this cover up story was really well thought out.

Bengalsrocket
10-09-2008, 12:48 PM
The Bengals? Trust they would be first in line to lose any picks, they just recently resigned Chris Henry and Cedric Benson as well as everyone else in the past few years, nobody is going to get punished before them.

In the last two season no Bengals player has been involved in any incident that has resulted in a conviction. There has been 4 incidents involving players, and 3 of the 4 players no longer play for Cincinnati (Chris Henry being the only player here).

As far as Benson goes, well, the grand jury failed to indict Benson on both arrests. This is a pretty clear statement of innocence and the NFL said they won't discipline him.

Many teams have been far worse than the Bengals as of recent. I'm not saying we are the most clean team, far from it. But I doubt we get arbitrarily punished first.

kwilk103
10-09-2008, 02:06 PM
according to the police spokesperson on irvin's radio show:

1. fight was at 11 pm
2. fight was broken up before police got there
3. alcohol was involved, but not to the point of intoxication

thule
10-09-2008, 02:32 PM
Well being that Adam is over the age of 21...and wasn't intoxicated...it shouldn't be an issue

DMWSackMachine
10-09-2008, 03:01 PM
This is one of the most pathetic attempts to make a story out of nothing that I have ever seen. If anyone is interested, this unofficial team blog, which is very good and objective almost to a fault at times, had this commentary on the situation:


So Adam Jones had a fight with his bodyguard.

Sure.

So the local scribes are climbing over each other to see which can be more sanctimonious and sanctimonious first.

Whatever.

Life goes on. If it’s with Adam Jones, so be it. If it’s without him, so be it.

He’s been a steady cornerback, but life will go on. Terence Newman will return at some point this year. Orlando Scandrick has looked good. Mike Jenkins has taken his lumps but is on a rookie learning curve. They have a good secondary coach. The Cowboys will endure.

Somebody, likely the Pac, passed gas in the theater. It’s unpleasant, but ignore the idiots yelling “fire!” in your face. Resist the call to stampede. The smell will fade, and so, eventually, will the idiocy and mock outrage.

I’m just tired of the encompassing phoniness. We saw it in ‘06 when T.O. took the wrong supplements and spent a couple of hours in an altered state on his couch. His publicist had to milk it for her fifteen minutes, stepping in it so badly that T.O. had to take over her P.R. duties, which he did spectacularly, dousing a blowup with the Dallas P.D. that Simple Kim was intent on lighting.

And then there’s the Dallas P.D.

They must give leaking lessons with the basic training there. Nobody was arrested, but every last detail that can be dribbled out has been dribbled out. No charges will be filed, but Department sources will do their damnedest to make sure Jones is tried in the court of public opinion.

And, of course, the usual suspects in the Metroplex punditocracy, who no doubt have the squeakiest of clean pasts, deign to lecture the Cowboys and the rest of us on morals, ethics and public decorum.

Yawn.

Let me point out something to the younger, and perhaps the older hands here. When I lived in Wisconsin back in the mid-’90s, at the height of the Cowboys/Packers/49ers rivalries, no writer, not even one of the Packer-covering locals, was more popular among the Cheeseheads than Randy Galloway. Every time the Cowboys would trip up, or a player would do something stupid, he’d hammer out something venenous and predictable, in his inimitable one-sentence-per-paragraph sarcasm, and the national press would eat it up.

I had Packer-backer friends who loved to wave his screeds at me, saying “Randy Galloway is my favorite writer.” He and the Dales and Eds aren’t popular because they’re offering you any great insight as to why the team wins or loses. They’re popular because they’re useful idiots, whom the rest of the Cowboys-hating world runs to at moments like this because they’ll fling poo at Valley Ranch on cue.

Look at the headline on Pro Football Talk right now. It’s Mike Florio’s breathless “Randy Agrees With Me” pile on. This is exhibit A that men love melodrama just as much as women. The only difference is the type of romance novels we read. The ladies like theirs with busty, bodice-ripped damsels and ab-ripped heroes. The most inclined among us men folk love ours in column length, with musky, hypertrophied jock protagonists, who drive fast cars, date faster women and thumb their noses at the Commissioner.

This grocery store tabloid has too many fourth-rate divas, and a threadbare plot. It’s more like the typical four minute Saturday Night Live skit that’s being dragged out to 100 minutes for the multiplexes. And the principals are trying to convince us we should pay $8.50 to sit through this turkey.

I give it two thumbs down.

Now, back to the Cardinals. There’s an actual interesting football game coming up in three days.

That, my friends, is the real entertainment.

www.blueandsilverreport.com

I thought that summed it up nicely.

Geo
10-09-2008, 03:42 PM
Of course anything that this idiot does is going to get blown up by the media, especially after his ridiculous history and him now playing for the Cowboys of all teams. Come on, this can't be surprising in the least. Other than it took until Week 6, I guess.

Wade Phillips is melting at his presser now, wow.

Hey, you reap what you sow.

Modano
10-09-2008, 03:53 PM
This is one of the most pathetic attempts to make a story out of nothing that I have ever seen. If anyone is interested, this unofficial team blog, which is very good and objective almost to a fault at times, had this commentary on the situation:



www.blueandsilverreport.com

I thought that summed it up nicely.

Vela and Villaronga are back? I missed them so much. The DMN blog is garbage and also "Bloggin' the boys" has been bad recently.

LonghornsLegend
10-09-2008, 05:40 PM
In the last two season no Bengals player has been involved in any incident that has resulted in a conviction. There has been 4 incidents involving players, and 3 of the 4 players no longer play for Cincinnati (Chris Henry being the only player here).

As far as Benson goes, well, the grand jury failed to indict Benson on both arrests. This is a pretty clear statement of innocence and the NFL said they won't discipline him.

Many teams have been far worse than the Bengals as of recent. I'm not saying we are the most clean team, far from it. But I doubt we get arbitrarily punished first.

The subject at hand is punishing teams who sign troubled players, and you guys just signed Benson and Henry when at the time your team would probably be leading the pack in terms of players who have continually gotten in trouble with the law over the past 3 years...My point was that Cincy would be well in line to get something handed down before anyone else, I don't know why your surprised, when the GM continually drafts bad character players and continues to sign them thats the downside of it.

Turtlepower
10-09-2008, 05:42 PM
The subject at hand is punishing teams who sign troubled players, and you guys just signed Benson and Henry when at the time your team would probably be leading the pack in terms of players who have continually gotten in trouble with the law over the past 3 years...My point was that Cincy would be well in line to get something handed down before anyone else, I don't know why your surprised, when the GM continually drafts bad character players and continues to sign them thats the downside of it.

It isn't about signing troubled players, but it is about knowing the risk of troubled players, signing them and then they get into trouble. I agree that if Benson or Henry do some crazy stuff again, then the Bengals should get in trouble. At the moment, they haven't done anything since being signed. The same can be said possibly for the Vikings if Jared Allen ends up getting another DUI. Goodell is not punishing teams for the act of signing the players, but for the act of teams knowing the risks of signing the players and then those players screw up after they are signed.

aNYtitan
10-10-2008, 09:31 PM
Since he is no longer part of the Titans organization, I could care less what mess Pacman Jones brings upon himself. He obviously can't stay out of trouble, and doesn't understand the consequences of his actions.

ChezPower4
10-10-2008, 09:49 PM
Since he is no longer part of the Titans organization, I could care less what mess Pacman Jones brings upon himself. He obviously can't stay out of trouble, and doesn't understand the consequences of his actions.

I think that he can't stay sober

Bruce Banner
10-10-2008, 09:52 PM
I think that he can't stay sober

I think this is a case of "you can take the man out of the hood but you can't take the hood out of the man".

But in all seriousness, this will never end.

Being wheelchair bound wasn't enough.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0bPO4NA6tX5Ze/610x.jpg

Do the right thing Roger.