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Geomar
10-10-2008, 08:24 PM
Not in order of who I think is best just listing them as I remember from my head.

Knowshon Moreno - Georgia - 5'11 207 - Currently Redshirt Soph
DeMarco Murray - Oklahoma - 6'1 205 - Currently Redshirt Soph
Noel Devine - West Virginia - 5'8 173 - Currently Soph
Graig Cooper - Miami - 6'0 205 - Currently Soph - went prep
LeSean McCoy - Pittsburgh - 5'11 210 - Currently Soph - went prep
Joe McKnight - USC - 6'0 200 - Currently Soph
Evan Royster - Penn State - 6'1 212 - Currently Redshirt Soph
Derrick Washington - Missouri - 5'11 215 - Currently Soph
Jahvid Best - Cal - 5'10 193 - Soph
CJ Gable - USC - 6'1 200 - Redshirt Soph.

If anyone has other prospects to add just post.

Anyone else think this is a loaded class?

underscore
10-10-2008, 08:38 PM
Evan Royster, 6'1, 212, R-So for Penn State.

No way McCoy waits till 2011 to go pro.

holt_bruce81
10-10-2008, 08:42 PM
Derrick Washington has to be on that list

67 attempts 500 yards 7.5 ypc, 10 TDs
9 catches 92 yards 2 TDs

CashmoneyDrew
10-10-2008, 08:47 PM
Lennon Creer if Fulmer would give him some damn carries.

619
10-10-2008, 08:50 PM
Close to all will declare ahead of time, imo. It's nice to think about it that way though.

Cigaro
10-10-2008, 08:51 PM
Maybe one will actually leave with the 2011 class.

Malaka
10-10-2008, 08:57 PM
Maybe one will actually leave with the 2011 class.

I think the only one that would actually leave with 2011 draft class would be Noel Devine, and that is it, I can't really see anyone else not coming out before 2011.

Geomar
10-10-2008, 08:59 PM
Alright Im going to add royster and washington to the prospect list.


also lennon creer doesnt make it to prospect list yet.

All he really did was just run over a weak UAB defense.

Staubach12
10-10-2008, 09:00 PM
I think the only one that would actually leave with 2011 draft class would be Noel Devine, and that is it, I can't really see anyone else not coming out before 2011.

I 100% agree. Devine is the only one staying for the whole ride, the rest jumping ship.

KCJ58
10-10-2008, 09:01 PM
Chances are most of them will be in the 2010 class

CashmoneyDrew
10-10-2008, 09:02 PM
Alright Im going to add royster and washington to the prospect list.


also lennon creer doesnt make it to prospect list yet.

All he really did was just run over a weak UAB defense.

Nah, you misunderstood me. I meant that Lennon Creer could be up there if Fulmer would give him some carries. Not that he should be up there.

M.O.T.H.
10-10-2008, 09:05 PM
Hopefully, SCAR's Brian Maddox pans out. I like him more than Baker but hey, I'd be happy if either breaks out. So far, neither has done all that much.

Geomar
10-10-2008, 09:05 PM
Nah, you misunderstood me. I meant that Lennon Creer could be up there if Fulmer would give him some carries. Not that he should be up there.

Ah. I catch your drift.

BamaFalcon59
10-10-2008, 09:38 PM
2012 redshirt freshman Darren Evans is a complete beast. He has average speed (4.55-4.60 right now, but that has time to improve), but good size (6'0" 215, will probablyget bigger), amazing vision, great power, amazing productivity. Over 60 TD as a senior in highschool, now this year he is getting the most carries on our team and the number of carries will only increase because our split starter tore his achilles. Has 8 touchdowns in 6 games, leading the ACC. Should be good for 1,000 yards and close to 20 touchdowns this season...as a redshirt freshman!

Im_a_Romosexual
10-10-2008, 11:03 PM
John Clay.

EDIT: apparently I cannot add and he wont be a senior, but he will be eligible

JeffSamardzijaIRISH
10-10-2008, 11:05 PM
Jahvid Best

Geomar
10-10-2008, 11:20 PM
John Clay and Darren Evans are for 2012 class. Their both RS Freshman.


jahvid best gets in my list but barely.

BamaFalcon59
10-10-2008, 11:38 PM
John Clay and Darren Evans are for 2012 class. Their both RS Freshman.


jahvid best gets in my list but barely.

It don't matter, Evans pwns all of them.

Geomar
10-10-2008, 11:42 PM
It don't matter, Evans pwns all of them.

VT Homer.

Evans cant hold the jock strap of any of the sophomore RB's at all.

Evans is good but he just doesnt touch them yet.

MarioPalmer
10-11-2008, 12:33 AM
C.J. Gable- 6'0 230lbs. USC *Soph.

Gable is currently 3rd on the depth chart because of the lovefest that is Joe McKnight and Stefon Johnson. Although I do like Stefon Johnson he is not quite the athlete and running force that he was made out to be when recruited. But Gable is something that I think NFL scouts are just falling in love with and I think that some GM's and scouts are hoping that he doesn't get the hype that other top athletic backs from there do and he sort of slips. But I see Gable going the Ronnie Brown route. He won't get nearly the amount of hype that his commrades will get, just as Ronnie did when playing next to Caddy Williams, but will have an enormous rise come pre draft workouts and interviews. This kid is special guys, I mean top 10 special. Watch him specifically if you can next time the Trojans play and he gets a chance to run. He is an excellent player. Big, powerful, great cuts and great patience is outstanding, a definite future feature NFL back.

If C.J. Gable decides to stay in school after next year it will be a huge surprise. He is a terrific RB and he has NFL skills written all over him.

Geomar
10-11-2008, 12:39 AM
C.J. Gable- 6'0 230lbs. USC *Soph.

Gable is currently 3rd on the depth chart because of the lovefest that is Joe McKnight and Stefon Johnson. Although I do like Stefon Johnson he is not quite the athlete and running force that he was made out to be when recruited. But Gable is something that I think NFL scouts are just falling in love with and I think that some GM's and scouts are hoping that he doesn't get the hype that other top athletic backs from there do and he sort of slips. But I see Gable going the Ronnie Brown route. He won't get nearly the amount of hype that his commrades will get, just as Ronnie did when playing next to Caddy Williams, but will have an enormous rise come pre draft workouts and interviews. This kid is special guys, I mean top 10 special. Watch him specifically if you can next time the Trojans play and he gets a chance to run. He is an excellent player. Big, powerful, great cuts and great patience is outstanding, a definite future feature NFL back.

If C.J. Gable decides to stay in school after next year it will be a huge surprise. He is a terrific RB and he has NFL skills written all over him.

Good propsect Ive seen him play this year. Seems to be more polished as a RB than Mcknight and Johnson at USC.

IDK why you listed him as 230? He's 200.

But I will add him to the prospect list. From the very few times he's had the ball he has been impressive. He doesnt touch the other sophomore RB's but he does have potential.

BamaFalcon59
10-11-2008, 12:42 AM
Orly?

Darren Evans
8 TD in 6 games (1.3 TD per game)
415 yards in 6 games (69 yards per game)

Knowshon Moreno
24 touchdowns in 18 games (1.3 TD per game)
1823 yards in 18 games (101 yards per game)

DeMarco Murray
18 TD in 17 games (1.05 TD per game)
1195 yards in 17 games (70 yards per game)

Noel Devine
7 TD in 17 games (.4 TD per game)
1081 yards in 17 games (63 yards per game)

Graig Cooper
7 TD in 16 games (.4 TD per game)
1004 yards in 16 games (63 yards per game)

LeSean McCoy
21 TD in 17 games (1.2 TD per game)
1861 yards in 17 games (109 yards per game)

Joe McKnight
3 TD in 17 games (1.8 TD per game)
742 yards in 17 games (44 yards per game)

Evan Royster
13 TD in 18 games (.72 TD per game)
1172 yards in 18 games (65 yards per game)

Derrick Washington
11 TD in 17 games (.65 TD per game)
684 yards in 17 games (40 yards per game)

Jahvid Best
6 TD in 14 games (.43 TD per game)
642 yards in 14 games (46 yards per game)


So, none of them average more touchdowns per game, and only 3 out of the 9 average more yards, one of them averaging only 1 more yard per game. So, two produce significantly more yards, and Evans produces more touchdowns than any of them besides Moreno, who he is tied with. At this point none of them, save Moreno and maybe McCoy, blow Evans out of the water.

BamaFalcon59
10-11-2008, 12:44 AM
Oh, and Evans is now becoming the starter, so his numbers will only go up.

Geomar
10-11-2008, 01:03 AM
Dont get me wrong Evans is good but he just doesnt touch the likes of Moreno, Murray, Cooper, McCoy.


I think Evans will make your team proud and be freshman all american. But dont get over your head.

Moreno has 589 all purpose yards and 10 total TD's this season. in 5 games
Moreno has carried the ball 78 times rushing.


Murray has 497 all purpose yards and 5 total TD's this season. in 5 games
Murray has carried the ball 85 times rushing.


Cooper has 499 all purpose yards (You dont get to see 81 of his yards because 81 were 2 punt returns with 1 TD) and 6 total TD's this season. in 5 games. Cooper has only carried the ball running 60 times this season.

McCoy has 559 all purpose yards and 7 total TD's this season. in 6 games McCoy has carried the ball 117 times rushing.

Darren Evans has 426 yards and 8 total TD's this season. in 6 games.
Evans has carried the ball 98 times rushing.

Evans is close, but lets see how he does with taking the starting job now.

What you did not factor in was carries and average per rush.

Also, maybe Evans is used more down at the goalline.

BamaFalcon59
10-11-2008, 01:17 AM
Of course his YPC will be lower and he is used down near the goalline, he is a power back in comparison to the other scat backs. That, IMO, is a boon more than anything. He can carry the load, he can be used down near the goal line. Unlike most of these backs Evans is a guy who can be the main guy rather than a scat back.

WMD
10-11-2008, 03:12 AM
Sam McGuffie!

DeathbyStat
10-11-2008, 01:55 PM
I like Royster alot hopefully he runs a decent forty time

619
10-11-2008, 02:01 PM
Sam McGuffie!

No, no, no it's SAM MCGUFFIEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

MarioPalmer
10-11-2008, 02:17 PM
Good propsect Ive seen him play this year. Seems to be more polished as a RB than Mcknight and Johnson at USC.

IDK why you listed him as 230? He's 200.

But I will add him to the prospect list. From the very few times he's had the ball he has been impressive. He doesnt touch the other sophomore RB's but he does have potential.

I know he is listed at 200, but he looks like he is 220-230lbs. and could probably play at that weight if he isn't. I love Gable, I think he is the best RB on that squad. I am just not sold on McKnight and Stefon has been nothing but huge dissapointment. I was really hyping him when he came into SC, but he hasn't lived up to the hype of being the #1 RB in his freshman class.

Zyro_1014
10-11-2008, 04:47 PM
I know he is listed at 200, but he looks like he is 220-230lbs. and could probably play at that weight if he isn't. I love Gable, I think he is the best RB on that squad. I am just not sold on McKnight and Stefon has been nothing but huge dissapointment. I was really hyping him when he came into SC, but he hasn't lived up to the hype of being the #1 RB in his freshman class.

Im sorry but if youre saying that Gable is better than Johnson i think youre mistaken. Johnson is the most pure runner of that group. Gable brings some things that i like to the offense, but Johnson WILL be something special when he gets to the pro game. That boy has it all the side to side game, jitterbug move and he can take it straight ahead.

do not take it as im dissing on Gable, i like Gable alot but i do not think he's quite the runner as Johnson. I believe hes a better pure runner than McKnight tho, Mcknight just has more of that BIG play potential.

Paranoidmoonduck
10-12-2008, 01:24 AM
I gotta say, when I look at the draft eligible players over the next two drafts I realize that if this draft ends up being weak overall (distinctly possible), the 2010 draft might be the best in recent memory in terms of depth and top level talent.

Mr. Stiller
10-14-2008, 01:55 AM
Wow Devine is going to be way smaller than his 5'8 IMO..

http://i4.tinypic.com/67ysjmr.jpg

Bruce Banner
10-14-2008, 02:01 AM
Wow Devine is going to be way smaller than his 5'8 IMO..

http://i4.tinypic.com/67ysjmr.jpg

The dude next to him is quite tall (6'8?) but I agree, not quite 5'8.

DragonFireKai
10-14-2008, 02:01 AM
Orly?

Darren Evans
8 TD in 6 games (1.3 TD per game)
415 yards in 6 games (69 yards per game)

Knowshon Moreno
24 touchdowns in 18 games (1.3 TD per game)
1823 yards in 18 games (101 yards per game)

DeMarco Murray
18 TD in 17 games (1.05 TD per game)
1195 yards in 17 games (70 yards per game)

Noel Devine
7 TD in 17 games (.4 TD per game)
1081 yards in 17 games (63 yards per game)

Graig Cooper
7 TD in 16 games (.4 TD per game)
1004 yards in 16 games (63 yards per game)

LeSean McCoy
21 TD in 17 games (1.2 TD per game)
1861 yards in 17 games (109 yards per game)

Joe McKnight
3 TD in 17 games (1.8 TD per game)
742 yards in 17 games (44 yards per game)

Evan Royster
13 TD in 18 games (.72 TD per game)
1172 yards in 18 games (65 yards per game)

Derrick Washington
11 TD in 17 games (.65 TD per game)
684 yards in 17 games (40 yards per game)

Jahvid Best
6 TD in 14 games (.43 TD per game)
642 yards in 14 games (46 yards per game)




Jaquizz Rodgers
8 TD in 6 games (1.3 TD per Game)
718 yards in 6 games (120 yards per game)

Mr. Stiller
10-14-2008, 02:04 AM
The dude next to him is quite tall (6'8?) but I agree, not quite 5'8.

He's labled 6'8 but he went to Woodlands Hills HS with my friend. He was 6'5 when he graduated.. said he grew, is about 6'7. He also met Devine and said he'd be surprised if Devine was 5'6 when the Combine rolls around.

Bruce Banner
10-14-2008, 02:08 AM
That's a low center of gravity right there. When does a disadvantage become an advantage?

Mr. Stiller
10-14-2008, 02:13 AM
That's a low center of gravity right there. When does a disadvantage become an advantage?

No idea, but a small frame would make it indefinitely harder to hold weight without it becoming a problem.... don't have enough weight and the build to withstand the hits of the NFL then I'd say the frame can be a problem.

Bruce Banner
10-14-2008, 02:18 AM
No idea, but a small frame would make it indefinitely harder to hold weight without it becoming a problem.... don't have enough weight and the build to withstand the hits of the NFL then I'd say the frame can be a problem.

Maybe an informed WV fan or Devine fan can chime in on his size. I'm not sure he needs to get bigger, he's put together like a tank, and he is already strong as hell. Taking hits? Seems fine thus far.

Mr. Stiller
10-14-2008, 02:41 AM
Maybe an informed WV fan or Devine fan can chime in on his size. I'm not sure he needs to get bigger, he's put together like a tank, and he is already strong as hell. Taking hits? Seems fine thus far.

Am I understanding this.. you're telling me only a fan can comment on him?

Bruce Banner
10-14-2008, 02:44 AM
Am I understanding this.. you're telling me only a fan can comment on him?

No, just someone that has seen a lot more of him than we have. I'd assume that a fan of him or WV has seen him a lot.

eaglesalltheway
10-14-2008, 06:26 AM
Orly?

Darren Evans
8 TD in 6 games (1.3 TD per game)
415 yards in 6 games (69 yards per game)

Knowshon Moreno
24 touchdowns in 18 games (1.3 TD per game)
1823 yards in 18 games (101 yards per game)

DeMarco Murray
18 TD in 17 games (1.05 TD per game)
1195 yards in 17 games (70 yards per game)

Noel Devine
7 TD in 17 games (.4 TD per game)
1081 yards in 17 games (63 yards per game)

Graig Cooper
7 TD in 16 games (.4 TD per game)
1004 yards in 16 games (63 yards per game)

LeSean McCoy
21 TD in 17 games (1.2 TD per game)
1861 yards in 17 games (109 yards per game)

Joe McKnight
3 TD in 17 games (1.8 TD per game)
742 yards in 17 games (44 yards per game)

Evan Royster
13 TD in 18 games (.72 TD per game)
1172 yards in 18 games (65 yards per game)

Derrick Washington
11 TD in 17 games (.65 TD per game)
684 yards in 17 games (40 yards per game)

Jahvid Best
6 TD in 14 games (.43 TD per game)
642 yards in 14 games (46 yards per game)


So, none of them average more touchdowns per game, and only 3 out of the 9 average more yards, one of them averaging only 1 more yard per game. So, two produce significantly more yards, and Evans produces more touchdowns than any of them besides Moreno, who he is tied with. At this point none of them, save Moreno and maybe McCoy, blow Evans out of the water.

That isn't the whole story there though. For Royster, this is his first year as a starter, and as such, he is averaging over 100 yards per game and had a TD-Game ratio over one. Both of his first two games this year he had 3 TDs, and he has reached the endzone a few times after that as well. Will check back with that number. I'm sure the numbers for those other guys are scewed as well, as they may have similar situations.

Edit: 9 TDs in 7 games, that is a ratio of 1.29 TD/game.

ironman4579
10-14-2008, 10:12 AM
No, no, no it's SAM MCGUFFIEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Thread over. Although you forgot to add in a ZOMGZZZZ and !!!11!!1!! somwhere.