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WMD
10-15-2008, 11:30 PM
Who is worse? I would like to compare the starters from both teams but I'm not quite sure who the Dolphins started for most of the season last year. I think the Lions have a good chance of going 0-16 or 1-15 this season, so I'm curious as to who the masses feel is the worse team.

Compare the players.. Cleo Lemon vs. Dan Orlovsky, etc etc.

Who ya got?

Dr. Gonzo
10-15-2008, 11:36 PM
If we are talking about the Dolphins with Ronnie Brown they win in a landslide. If we are talking about the Dolphins after Brown went down it is much close but I still think I would take the Dolphins.

AntoinCD
10-16-2008, 08:51 AM
Calvin Johnson, Roy Williams, Ernie Sims. The Dolphins didn't have anyone near that good last year with Brown being hurt.

Brent
10-16-2008, 09:50 AM
Werent the Dolphins at least competitive in some of their games?

AntoinCD
10-16-2008, 09:53 AM
Werent the Dolphins at least competitive in some of their games?

Detroit Lions 10-12 Minnesota Vikings?

And despite giving up a 21 point lead to Green Bay they came back to lead before throwing it away

illmatic74
10-16-2008, 10:36 AM
The lions don't have Cleo Lemon so they are better.

Twiddler
10-16-2008, 10:54 AM
Werent the Dolphins at least competitive in some of their games?

Scorewise, they actually had many close games. They lost six games by 3 points and had a few other close games. I'm not sure how close their games were in reality though.

As for the question, its really close but I think I would go with Miami as far as who is worse. Its almost a draw in my mind.

Menardo75
10-16-2008, 11:45 AM
Yeah way too tough of a question lol. A healthy Dolphins team I think would beat this years Lions team.

WMD
10-16-2008, 03:52 PM
Calvin Johnson, Roy Williams, Ernie Sims. The Dolphins didn't have anyone near that good last year with Brown being hurt.

Well, they had Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas who are better than anyone on the Lions.

ChezPower4
10-16-2008, 03:55 PM
With Kitna as the starting QB or not?

Prowler
10-16-2008, 03:57 PM
yeah, the dolphins actually had a defense and with the exception of that last minnesota game the lions have been absolutely blown out in every game this year. plus the lions finally started playing and now roy is traded. we have to be ahead early now to get a win, we'll see how hard they play the rest of the year.

619
10-16-2008, 03:58 PM
With Kitna as the starting QB or not?

Like it makes a difference ..

diabsoule
10-16-2008, 04:10 PM
Let's see: Lions have/had Roy Williams, Calvin Johnson, Shaun Rogers, Ernie Sims and that's about it.

Dolphins have/had: Jason Taylor, Zach Thomas, Ted Ginn Jr, Vernon Carey, Samson Satele, Channing Crowder, and Joey Porter.

The Great Jonathan Vilma
10-16-2008, 04:11 PM
Let's see: Lions have/had Roy Williams, Calvin Johnson, Shaun Rogers, Ernie Sims and that's about it.

Dolphins have/had: Jason Taylor, Zach Thomas, Ted Ginn Jr, Vernon Carey, Samson Satele, Channing Crowder, and Joey Porter.

Tedd Ginn is mention worthy now?

Shane P. Hallam
10-16-2008, 04:13 PM
Taking out Ronnie Brown and Roy Williams, I'd still take the Lions.

Gay Ork Wang
10-16-2008, 04:15 PM
Well, they had Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas who are better than anyone on the Lions.
Both Together > whole lions

Prowler
10-16-2008, 04:16 PM
Let's see: Lions have/had Roy Williams, Calvin Johnson, Shaun Rogers, Ernie Sims and that's about it.

Dolphins have/had: Jason Taylor, Zach Thomas, Ted Ginn Jr, Vernon Carey, Samson Satele, Channing Crowder, and Joey Porter.

replace shaun rogers with chartric darby

AntoinCD
10-16-2008, 05:25 PM
Well, they had Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas who are better than anyone on the Lions.

Zach Thomas missed a lot of time with a concussion and Taylor should not have made the pro bowl last year, his play has severely dropped.

regoob2
10-16-2008, 05:33 PM
This 0-5 Lions team just lost it best player. Lions get my vote.

Turtlepower
10-16-2008, 05:36 PM
Look at it this way, did the Dolphins have to put their not really injured starting QB on IR to then give a shot to a player who actually ran out the back of his endzone in a game they lost by 2 points.

I think a better comparison would be the 2008 Lions and the 1962 NY Mets.

WMD
10-16-2008, 06:17 PM
So you all think the 2008 Lions could reach "Worst of All Time" status?

Gay Ork Wang
10-16-2008, 06:25 PM
if they play like in the first 5 weeks, definitely

CC.SD
10-16-2008, 06:25 PM
Odd little parallel between the Dolphins sending Chris Chambers out of town, and the Lions dealing Roy Williams.

I've gotta take the Dolphins in this scenario, because they were powered purely by former Charger practice squad members; Jesse Chatman, Cleo Lemon, Greg Camarillo, Justin Peele...

Babylon
10-16-2008, 07:21 PM
Are we trying to say because they havent won that the Lions are the worst team in the league? I think a few others would dispute that.

Gay Ork Wang
10-16-2008, 07:25 PM
Are we trying to say because they havent won that the Lions are the worst team in the league? I think a few others would dispute that.
no because how they have played

EvilMonkey
10-16-2008, 08:02 PM
So you all think the 2008 Lions could reach "Worst of All Time" status?

if dan the man keeps running out of the back of the endzone, yes

Iamcanadian
10-16-2008, 10:11 PM
My only response to this poll is that the Lions will be doomed from 2008 till further notice while the Dolphins have made the necessary changes to become competitive. We had William Clay Ford long before Millen and we still have him as our owner = futility until he passes away or gives the team to his son. We are simply going nowhere any time soon so I'd take Miami's position every day of the year.

Paranoidmoonduck
10-16-2008, 11:28 PM
I would say that at each resective time, I think that Detroit has more talent to hope with heading into 2009 than Miami had heading into 2008. Then again, Miami has looked pretty good this season, that just goes to show you never know.

Detroit is fighting years of ineptitude and the moves they choose to remake that front office are going to be the single biggest factors.

Bruce Banner
10-16-2008, 11:30 PM
Wow. Reaaally close poll.

Brodeur
10-16-2008, 11:35 PM
While Cameron is a crappy head coach, he is a hell of a lot better than the moron currently coaching the Lions so they win by that technicality.

WMD
10-16-2008, 11:38 PM
While Cameron is a crappy head coach, he is a hell of a lot better than the moron currently coaching the Lions so they win by that technicality.

He actually played their rookies!

Just an update for everyone.. Gosder Cherilus is back on the bench. No other rookie is even playing.

Brodeur
10-16-2008, 11:39 PM
He actually played their rookies!

I think Avril saw like 20 plays this week so Dumbass is improving in that aspect.

djp
10-17-2008, 12:03 AM
I swear, against any other team last week the Vikings lose by 20+. They played sooooo poorly but the Lions were just awful.

Question though.

1-10, how funny would it have been if the ball was on the right hash instead of the left hash and Orlovsky would have ran into the goalpost on the safety?

Prowler
10-17-2008, 01:01 PM
everyone would have been in a state of shocked disbelief, then calmly walked out of the stadium. probably would have chuckled to themselves on the drive back home, wondering when they can finally return and watch competitive football.

keylime_5
10-17-2008, 01:12 PM
miami was worse i think. detroit will probably win 3 games.

ChezPower4
10-17-2008, 06:32 PM
miami was worse i think. detroit will probably win 3 games.

Not with Jon Kitna out

Brodeur
10-17-2008, 06:39 PM
miami was worse i think. detroit will probably win 3 games.

Have you seen Dan Orlovsky?

Brent
10-17-2008, 06:57 PM
So you all think the 2008 Lions could reach "Worst of All Time" status?
They would have to lose every game for like two years for me to think that (haha Tampa Bay).

Bruce Banner
10-17-2008, 06:58 PM
They would have to lose every game for like two years for me to think that (haha Tampa Bay).

Not good times. :(

Brent
10-17-2008, 07:09 PM
Not good times. :(
It's not like you were alive then, I wouldnt worry about it.

Bruce Banner
10-17-2008, 07:11 PM
It's not like you were alive then, I wouldnt worry about it.

Were you? If so, how bad were we? If not, why mention it?

Brent
10-17-2008, 07:15 PM
Were you? If so, how bad were we? If not, why mention it?
I was just being facetious, relax. Though I did see a thing on the NFL Network once about that team and it was hilarious when they showed footage of how awful they were.

Bruce Banner
10-17-2008, 07:16 PM
I was just being facetious, relax. Though I did see a thing on the NFL Network once about that team and it was hilarious when they showed footage of how awful they were.

At least our jerseys were sweet!

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/11/13/images/large/Sports_sp_rail_2226748.jpg

:(

Brent
10-17-2008, 07:19 PM
back in the day in madden, if I ever played with the Bucs in franchise mode, I would make the home/away version of that the standard uniform haha