BeerBaron's Quick Mock

[BeerBaron]

Bored on a Saturday afternoon....so here's a quickie little one rounder:

1.) Detroit Lions – QB Matt Stafford, Georgia
After a miserable season, the Lions find themselves faced with a major rebuilding project, likely at the hands of a new GM and coach. Bringing in a guy who has franchise QB potential gives them a piece to build around for years to come.

2.) Cincinnati Bengals – MLB Rey Maualuga, USC
The Bengals find themselves with a lot of options here but finding someone to build around in the middle of their defense comes first and foremost here. This pick reunites Maualuga with fellow Trojan Keith Rivers to hopefully give the Bungles some punch on defense.

3.) Kansas City Chiefs – QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
Bradford elects to take advantage of the weak QB crop and leaves while his stock is high. Well, it pays off for him and the team that takes him. The Chiefs find themselves a QB who some think may rival or even surpass Stafford to move forward with.

4.) Seattle Seahawks – WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
Jim Mora Jr. replaces Holmgren as head coach after a disastrous season for the Seahawks who have dominated their division for years now. A lot of their struggles can be attributed to a lack of weapons on offense and Mora grabs one here. He has a past of going for big WR’s as he took Michael Jenkins and Roddy White while at Atlanta and finds a nifty weapon in Crabtree.

5.) Miami Dolphins – CB Vontae Davis, Illinois
After seeing Maualuga go a few picks earlier, Miami finds themselves deciding between the top CB and top pass rusher of the draft and ultimately elect to go with the talented Davis, though Orakpo would certainly garner much interest as well…

6.) Oakland Raiders – OT Michael Oher, Ole Miss
Oakland finds a much needed LT with their first pick in the draft. He’s certainly an immediate upgrade over….anyone on their roster really, and should be able to protect Russell and open holes for McFadden helping out whatever coach risks his career in that disaster of a franchise under Al Davis next.

7.) Houston Texans – RB Chris Wells, Ohio State
The Texans could go in a number of directions here including S and DE but elect to bring in a playmaker at the RB spot. Steve Slaton has looked decent, but he probably shouldn’t be a full time back in the NFL and Ahman Green hasn’t been good since 2003….Wells can be a key cog in their offense and give them another weapon to go with Andre Johnson.

8.) Minnesota Vikings – DE Brian Orakpo, Texas
Well, there aren’t any QBs worth the spot, sorry Vikings fans. But what can be addressed is their pass defense woes. Jared Allen has helped a lot, but theres still a lot of work to be done. Orakpo is the top DE after some great workouts and could have easily gone sooner than this. A d-line of Orakpo-Williams-Williams-Allen looks beastly.

9.) San Francisco 49ers – OT Andre Smith, Alabama
Whether its Singletary or a new coach, San Fran needs help in a bunch of spots on offense. With no QB to be had, a WR like DHB or Maclin is tempting but when your o-line is playing poorly, nothing goes well. That’s where Smith fits in to sure up that line for whoever is playing QB.

10.) St. Louis Rams – OT Eugene Monroe, Virginia
Another team with o-line issues, the Rams find their future replacement for Pace in Monroe.

11.) Cleveland Browns – CB Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State
Many expected the Browns to step forward this year into the NFL’s elite teams but so far, no dice. They still have a lot of talent on offense but they need to sure up their defense in order to advance. Jenkins gives them a stud at one CB spot to help slow down the pass.

12.) Denver Broncos – LB Aaron Curry, Wake Forrest
The Broncos started out hot and guys like Cutler and Marshall look like real studs, but they can’t stop anyone on defense. DT might be a way to go, but with few worth the spot here, they take Curry to pair with DJ Williams to hopefully stop the run.

13.) New Orleans Saints – S William Moore, Mizzou
The Saints probably just saw their dream pick in Curry go one spot ahead of them, but they grab some secondary help here instead with Moore.

14.) NY Jets – RB Knowshon Moreno, Georgia
Despite spending a **** ton of money on FA’s and trading for Favre, the Jets haven’t been able to break into the elite team mold in the league. T-Jones is a nice runner but isn’t the youngest player in the world anymore and Moreno can give some spark to their offense to help them compete.

15.) Baltimore Ravens – WR Jeremy Maclin, Mizzou
Joe Flacco looks like a keeper at QB but many of his weapons on offense are aging. Maclin gives them an instant playmaker who can help to phase out Derek Mason long term as the favored target of Flacco.

16.) Detroit Lions (From Dallas) – DE Greg Hardy, Ole Miss
After getting their future franchise signal caller with their first pick, the Lions come back here and get some much needed defensive help in the for of a passer rusher in Hardy. OT is thought about but that defense really needs help….

17.) Green Bay Packers – OT Jason Smith, Baylor
The Packers are probably pretty happy with either Hardy or Smith here, whoever the Lions didn’t choose in front of them. Smith gives them some great depth and can be developed to replace one of their aging OTs down the road.

18.) Indianapolis Colts – DT Peria Jerry, Ole Miss
The Colts are back to their old ways of letting teams run all up and down their defense. In order to help stop that bleeding, the Colts grab the top DT in the class here.

19.) Philly Eagles (From Carolina) – TE Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma
The Eagles stubbornly refuse to ever run the ball consistently or get McNabb some real targets at WR. Well, here, they at least help the latter problem by getting McNabb a nice TE to throw to.

20.) Atlanta Falcons – WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland
A TE like Gresham might have been nice but since that option is out here, the Falcons get Matt Ryan another top flight WR to pair with Roddy White headed into the future. Secondary help is also considered.

21.) Philly Eagles – S Taylor Mays, USC
Brian Dawkins is a great safety, but he’s no spring chicken anymore so the Eagles nab his eventual replacement in the talented Mays.

22.) New England Pats – LB James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
Currently, many have him as an elite talent but I think come draft time, when he starts to be analyzed plenty, he will fall. The Pats could use some youth and help all over their defense, and find the future replacement of Bruschi here. Laurinaitis looks to pair nicely with last years pick Jerod Mayo to be the centerpieces of that defense.

23.) San Diego Chargers – OG Duke Robinson, Oklahoma
With Mike Goff getting towards the end of his playing days, the Chargers bring in his replacement in the best OG in the draft class. Robinson looks to slot right in and give San Diego one of the nastier o-lines in football.

24.) Chicago Bears – DE Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech
Well ****, I’m pissed on draft day after the Chargers steal my Duke Robinson. But the Bears do get their hands on an incredibly talented player in Johnson who has a lot of potential. Lack of production knocks him down draft boards but hopefully Lovie will find a way to use him to the best of his abilities since Alex Brown and Ogunleye aren’t doing much this year.

25.) Jacksonville Jaguars – CB Alphonso Smith, Wake Forrest
The Jags have one of the better corners in the league in Rashean Mathis already, but when you have to see the Colts twice a year, you need to make sure you have another corner who can cover and that’s what they grab in Smith here.

26.) Arizona Cardinals – OLB George Selvie, USF
Kurt Warner’s resurgence has helped give the Cardinals one of their best seasons in years but it’s possible they lose Dansby to FA so some more help with the pass rush is a must. Selvie knows how to get after the passer and is a perfect fit.

27.) Tampa Bay Bucs – WR Percy Harvin, Florida
Joey Galloway is hardly a young man anymore and the rest of that WR corps would have trouble making the roster of just about any other NFL team. Harvin brings instant impact in the return game and gives them a big play threat for the future at WR.

28.) Washington Redskins – LB Brian Cushing, USC
Washington has surprised some people in their first year under Jim Zorn and could use help in a few spots to keep moving forward. One of those is Linebacker where they have one keeper in Rocky McIntosh, but also have London Fletcher and Marcus Washington who aren’t getting any younger.

29.) Buffalo Bills – TE Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma St.
Buffalo has made some great strides this season and Trent Edwards is looking like a real stud at QB. Resigning Lee Evans and Roscoe Parrish in recent years gives him some nice targets long term and the Bills add another one here in Pettigrew.

30.) Tennessee Titans – DE Tyson Jackson, LSU
The Titans have been a real force this season and a lot of the reason why is the great play of their defense. Losing Albert Haynesworth is a real possibility however so the Titans grab a versatile lineman in Jackson who can help out at DE and maybe kick inside on passing downs.

31.) Pittsburgh Steelers – OT Phil Loadholt, Oklahoma
The Steelers biggest weakness by far this season is their offensive line so they add a massive player with huge potential here. Loadholt will probably slot in at the weak RT spot for now and, if he ever develops his pass blocking, could move to LT in the future as well.

32.) NY Giants – DT Terrance Taylor, Michigan
The Giants D-line has been one of their greatest strengths of late so they add to it here by bringing in a big tackle in Taylor who can be the eventual replacement for the big Fred Robbins. I thought about Sen’Derrick Marks but he seems like a smaller DT like what they already have in Cofield and Alford.

[Canadian_draft_fan]

A good mock BB. Just a couple of comments:
1. Orakpo to Minny - I've seen a few mocks with this pick. Could happen I guess, but I think the Vikes go OT or CB if a top flight QB isn't available. Minny still has a suspect pass D and the theory that a improvement on their Dline would solve this problem hasn't panned out. I've heard grumblings from some Minny fans is that Giffith is under achieving.

2. Redskins - Cushing is a good pick. I consider CB, OLB, DT and possibly Center as the Skins biggest needs.

[MidwayMonster31]

Overall, nice job. I think that defensive end is the Bears primary end, even though their run blocking isn't that good, despite their production. This draft is also a really good scenario for the Lions. Great pick for the Rams, Dolphins and Browns as well. The needs were identified very well.
The Bengals have to go OT. They can't run the ball or protect the quarterback. I also think that Steve Slaton looks like the guy for Houston, so they have to fix their defense. I think that Atlanta should go with a DT or safety. Washington could also use a DT.

[619]

Oher may be starting to become one of my preferred picks for the Raiders at this point. He's an absolutely great fit for the ZBS with his quick feet / athleticism, imo. How long this current coaching staff will stay in place will have a lot of determination in which direction this franchise goes on draft day as well.

[BeerBaron]

A good mock BB. Just a couple of comments:
1. Orakpo to Minny - I've seen a few mocks with this pick. Could happen I guess, but I think the Vikes go OT or CB if a top flight QB isn't available. Minny still has a suspect pass D and the theory that a improvement on their Dline would solve this problem hasn't panned out. I've heard grumblings from some Minny fans is that Giffith is under achieving.

thank you sir. i've also seen some of the comments about griffin not doing so well, and it was a conisderation too. I felt that Orakpo would be the top DE and would probably hold more value than say, going Malcolm Jenkins there. Either would help i'm sure though

2. Redskins - Cushing is a good pick. I consider CB, OLB, DT and possibly Center as the Skins biggest needs.

Overall, nice job. I think that defensive end is the Bears primary end, even though their run blocking isn't that good, despite their production. This draft is also a really good scenario for the Lions. Great pick for the Rams, Dolphins and Browns as well. The needs were identified very well.
The Bengals have to go OT. They can't run the ball or protect the quarterback. I also think that Steve Slaton looks like the guy for Houston, so they have to fix their defense. I think that Atlanta should go with a DT or safety. Washington could also use a DT.

Aye, I agree more and more on the Bears top need being DE as teh days go by, but I think Robinson could be a pro bowl caliber guard. Imagine if he and a healthy Chris Williams made up the left side of our line....nice.

I know the Bengals have some issues at OT, and I thoght about it long and hard, but even when their offense is clicking, that defense still can't stop anybody.

And like I said, Slaton is looking good in Houston but it would probably be conductive to his career to keep him as part of a tandem. Wells is a great value at that spot imo, more so than any DE for instance oculd be.

[d34ng3l021]

Giving Ryan more weapons is cool, but I dont know if I would be down for a WR not named Crabtree (or Maclin maybe). Our WR corp is pretty solid but we have absolutely no TEs. If we go offense, I say we go TE. But defensive backfield help is needed.

[BeerBaron]

Giving Ryan more weapons is cool, but I dont know if I would be down for a WR not named Crabtree (or Maclin maybe). Our WR corp is pretty solid but we have absolutely no TEs. If we go offense, I say we go TE. But defensive backfield help is needed.

Aye, it was actually something by you i think in the Falcons forum that i read and gave me the WR idea. I saw you had written something like secondary help probably wasn't a first round need, and with the top TE gone, i went WR.

[Xiomera]

Stafford makes me cry. Hardy makes me smile. It's a wash. Would be nice to see us picking #16 with that Dallas pick though, haha.

[Turtlepower]

Marks all the way instead of Taylor. Taylor just isn't that great of a DT and is mostly just a big body. I'd much rather have a player that produces and plays the part of an NFL player rather than one that just looks the part.

[BeerBaron]

Stafford makes me cry. Hardy makes me smile. It's a wash. Would be nice to see us picking #16 with that Dallas pick though, haha.

it'd be nice to just grab an offensive tackle but breaking in a new coaching staff with Orlovsky at QB is probably a bad way to go......

Marks all the way instead of Taylor. Taylor just isn't that great of a DT and is mostly just a big body. I'd much rather have a player that produces and plays the part of an NFL player rather than one that just looks the part.

I see. Didn't know all that much about the DT when I started out, but like I said in there I went with Taylor over Marks since he was less like Cofield and Alford. I'll try to think of a better way to go next time around then.

[d34ng3l021]

Aye, it was actually something by you i think in the Falcons forum that i read and gave me the WR idea. I saw you had written something like secondary help probably wasn't a first round need, and with the top TE gone, i went WR.

I dont remember saying secondary help wasnt a first round need...hm. WR isnt necessarily a bad pick, but if Crabtree and Maclin are gone, I would rather go for DB or maybe DT. The players available at that moment aren't too great though, so with the situation at hand, DHB is not a bad pick.

[Xiomera]

it'd be nice to just grab an offensive tackle but breaking in a new coaching staff with Orlovsky at QB is probably a bad way to go......



I just don't like Stafford. I prefer Bradford.

The Lions can't and won't fix their team in one offseason. I say get the QB next year since it seems the crop will be better next year (I don't see Bradford coming out at this point).

[Turtlepower]

I see. Didn't know all that much about the DT when I started out, but like I said in there I went with Taylor over Marks since he was less like Cofield and Alford. I'll try to think of a better way to go next time around then.

I guess the more I've thought about it, the less I think that a true NT is needed in most 4-3 defenses. I'd much rather have 2 UTs that can generate pressure than a big-body who tries to get double-teams.

[Aftermath]

Aaron Curry plays for Wake Forest, not Vanderbilt.

No thanks on Maualuga. I figure we could get a good MLB later in the first day.

Give us Oher or Orakpo(ive got a mancrush on 'im.)

[BeerBaron]

I dont remember saying secondary help wasnt a first round need...hm. WR isnt necessarily a bad pick, but if Crabtree and Maclin are gone, I would rather go for DB or maybe DT. The players available at that moment aren't too great though, so with the situation at hand, DHB is not a bad pick.

sorry, it wasn't in the falcons forum and it was a long time ago, lol:

http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1133855&postcount=23

i imagine things have changed pretty well....i still think i read in the falcons formum some WR love though. I'll probably think about making it a CB next time since the DT class is pretty meh.

I just don't like Stafford. I prefer Bradford.

The Lions can't and won't fix their team in one offseason. I say get the QB next year since it seems the crop will be better next year (I don't see Bradford coming out at this point).

your right, they can't, but I strongly believe that team needs a t-total overhaul. drafting a LT and a DE in this instance would seem decent, but i think about 9/10 times, new coaches coming in like to get "their guy" in at QB. At this point, this far before the draft, the names of the players are fairly interchangeable so Bradford > Stafford or anything isn't a huge deal just yet. I do think though that at least 2 first round quality QBs will come out. Call it a hunch...idk. Theres a bunch of teams that will be picking in the top 10 who will be sure to look at QBs and the alure of being an instant millionnare in a weak class will draw somebody out.

I guess the more I've thought about it, the less I think that a true NT is needed in most 4-3 defenses. I'd much rather have 2 UTs that can generate pressure than a big-body who tries to get double-teams.

true. I know for the Bears though that having a bigger bodied guy in there like Dusty or Marcus Harrison has been a blessing for Tommie Harris though. I know the Giants aren't a cover two team with a strong need for that pass rusher inside, but having bodies in there who can draw blockers away from you ends is a big help too. Too bad the DT class is so weak....Like I said, I'll think about going in a different direction next time for them.

[BeerBaron]

Aaron Curry plays for Wake Forest, not Vanderbilt.

No thanks on Maualuga. I figure we could get a good MLB later in the first day.

Give us Oher or Orakpo(ive got a mancrush on 'im.)

Good catch on Curry.

I'll remember to go in a different direction next time for the Bengals though. Not sure what the MLB class looks like beyond the top 2 though

[TaylorMade]

Nice mock. I personally don't like Cushing as a prospect, but the pick makes sense and I can see it happening for sure.

[BeerBaron]

Nice mock. I personally don't like Cushing as a prospect, but the pick makes sense and I can see it happening for sure.

thanks. I made the pick based on seeing them play last week and seeing that Washington wasn't quite what he once was. Maybe you don't like Cushing, but I think some youth at the spot would be a big help.

[CashmoneyDrew]

If we don't resign Haynesworth I might kill myself.

[BeerBaron]

If we don't resign Haynesworth I might kill myself.

i couldn't remember if they said in his deal that he can't be re-franchise tagged or not.

if they did, uh-oh....

[CashmoneyDrew]

i couldn't remember if they said in his deal that he can't be re-franchise tagged or not.

if they did, uh-oh....

Nah. He can't be franchised again. **** my life.

[T-RICH49]

hooray for Bradford :)

[bantx]

If we don't resign Haynesworth I might kill myself.

could u imagine him in a chargers uni? :] i could

[CashmoneyDrew]

could u imagine him in a chargers uni? :] i could

Nothing but a Titans uniform baby.

[thebow305]

Nice Phins pick. I'm not sure Parcells will elect to go DB over all those talented pass rushers like Johnson, Orakpo, and Hardy, but it's a solid choice either way and a huge need.

[BeerBaron]

hooray for Bradford :)

your going to have to hope more than 1 of the great underclassmen QBs comes out or else you have to hope the Lions suddenly get better......

could u imagine him in a chargers uni? :] i could

I was honestly thinking that the Broncos would make sense. They have some nice pieces on offense....if they could just stop the run...hmm.....give your Chargers some problems with Haynesworth in there

Nice Phins pick. I'm not sure Parcells will elect to go DB over all those talented pass rushers like Johnson, Orakpo, and Hardy, but it's a solid choice either way and a huge need.

I thought about it and thought about it but I think theres going to be more pass rushers possibly hitting FA (Suggs, Dansby) than truly great corners. That threw me there.

[vidae]

Hooray for Bradford x2

[BeerBaron]

Hooray for Bradford x2

your going to have to hope more than 1 of the great underclassmen QBs comes out or else you have to hope the Lions suddenly get better...... x2 lol

[bantx]

I was honestly thinking that the Broncos would make sense. They have some nice pieces on offense....if they could just stop the run...hmm.....give your Chargers some problems with Haynesworth in there




With Igor Olshansky being a UFA this year i can see us going after some big named players and with all the big named players being a UFA too (Julius Peppers, Terrell Suggs, and Albert) im hoping we go after one of them.

[scottyboy]

tp, I agree but I don't. A big NT body inside would be pretty damn awesome. Robbins is pretty much a NT considering he's ******* HUGE! I'd have to see both guys play and read up on this DT class more

[BeerBaron]

With Igor Olshansky being a UFA this year i can see us going after some big named players and with all the big named players being a UFA too (Julius Peppers, Terrell Suggs, and Albert) im hoping we go after one of them.

Well, looking at who you have listed, I'm not so sure those guys would be great fits.

With Suggs, yeah, its always nice to have pass rushers but your already going to be paying for 3 good ones. Merrimen will be back to go with Tucker and Phillips. Paying Suggs bookoo bucks just wouldn't make sense to me.

Peppers and Haynesworth also don't really fit in the 3-4 imo. Peppers has the size but he's def better at getting after the passer than at absorbing blockers and stopping the run which he would be asked to do in a 3-4.

Then Haynesworth....I think it would be a waste of his talent to simply be a space eating 3-4 NT. Plus the amount of money it would take to get him just for that purpose wouldn't make it worth it imo.

So all 3 great players but two don't really fit the Chargers imo and one would be too expensive given who you already have there.

[bantx]

Haynesworth can play any position on the line in a 3-4, im looking to upgrade our run defense because its looking horrible this year and haynesworth would be great imo

[CincinnatiBengals15]

Nice Bengals pick

[giantsfan]

Aye, I agree more and more on the Bears top need being DE as teh days go by, but I think Robinson could be a pro bowl caliber guard. Imagine if he and a healthy Chris Williams made up the left side of our line....nice.

I know the Bengals have some issues at OT, and I thoght about it long and hard, but even when their offense is clicking, that defense still can't stop anybody.

And like I said, Slaton is looking good in Houston but it would probably be conductive to his career to keep him as part of a tandem. Wells is a great value at that spot imo, more so than any DE for instance oculd be.

Their Defense has actually been their strength by far this season. now I still think they need to add a DE, UT, S and 2 LBs, but that offensive line is a much bigger concern than a MLB like Rey Rey. One of the top OT to play RT and C in FA would turn that offense around really fast. The Defense is solid right now with a strong corner duo and safety, Peko in the middle of the dline clogging the run and Rivers roaming at LB. The need a DE or an OT with that first pick and unless the win too many games they should be in a great position to grab Monroe.

[CincinnatiBengals15]

Their Defense has actually been their strength by far this season. now I still think they need to add a DE, UT, S and 2 LBs, but that offensive line is a much bigger concern than a MLB like Rey Rey. One of the top OT to play RT and C in FA would turn that offense around really fast. The Defense is solid right now with a strong corner duo and safety, Peko in the middle of the dline clogging the run and Rivers roaming at LB. The need a DE or an OT with that first pick and unless the win too many games they should be in a great position to grab Monroe.


Dude do u know how much money they put in OL already Mike Brown would rather play MLB Salary then OT i know they need OL help but knowing mike brown they will go defense in the 1st round or Draft someone that is injury prone and he will end his season before Training Camp or 1st Preseason Game or will draft a thug Hear Me NOW THE BENGALS WILL NOT BE A GOOD TEAM TILL THEY GET A NEW OWNER WHO CARES ABOUT WINNING A REAL GM NOT A MATT MILLEN AND A HEAD COACH THAT TAKE HIS JOB SERIOUS AND SAYS WE ARE GETTING BETTER EVERYWEEK WHEN WE HAVE NOT WON A GAME AND LAUGHS OFF EVERYTHING SAID IN A PRESS CONFERENCE

[regoob2]

Really good mock nice Bears pick.

[BeerBaron]

Their Defense has actually been their strength by far this season. now I still think they need to add a DE, UT, S and 2 LBs, but that offensive line is a much bigger concern than a MLB like Rey Rey. One of the top OT to play RT and C in FA would turn that offense around really fast. The Defense is solid right now with a strong corner duo and safety, Peko in the middle of the dline clogging the run and Rivers roaming at LB. The need a DE or an OT with that first pick and unless the win too many games they should be in a great position to grab Monroe.

Dude do u know how much money they put in OL already Mike Brown would rather play MLB Salary then OT i know they need OL help but knowing mike brown they will go defense in the 1st round or Draft someone that is injury prone and he will end his season before Training Camp or 1st Preseason Game or will draft a thug Hear Me NOW THE BENGALS WILL NOT BE A GOOD TEAM TILL THEY GET A NEW OWNER WHO CARES ABOUT WINNING A REAL GM NOT A MATT MILLEN AND A HEAD COACH THAT TAKE HIS JOB SERIOUS AND SAYS WE ARE GETTING BETTER EVERYWEEK WHEN WE HAVE NOT WON A GAME AND LAUGHS OFF EVERYTHING SAID IN A PRESS CONFERENCE

That Bengals pick really shaped the rest of my mock. Defense has been their weakness for a long time now and you simply don't take a RT with the #2 overall pick. Rey would really sure up that defense (along with Rivers) and do more than a RT ever could.

Really good mock nice Bears pick.

thank you.

[giantsfan]

Dude do u know how much money they put in OL already Mike Brown would rather play MLB Salary then OT i know they need OL help but knowing mike brown they will go defense in the 1st round or Draft someone that is injury prone and he will end his season before Training Camp or 1st Preseason Game or will draft a thug Hear Me NOW THE BENGALS WILL NOT BE A GOOD TEAM TILL THEY GET A NEW OWNER WHO CARES ABOUT WINNING A REAL GM NOT A MATT MILLEN AND A HEAD COACH THAT TAKE HIS JOB SERIOUS AND SAYS WE ARE GETTING BETTER EVERYWEEK WHEN WE HAVE NOT WON A GAME AND LAUGHS OFF EVERYTHING SAID IN A PRESS CONFERENCE

Depends on whether or not Andrews is re-signed and if he gets a long term deal what's the rate going to be on that. Who's really getting paid on that Oline other than Levi and Andrews? IF Andrews is re-signed at more reasonable rate or he's not re-signed I don't see anything holding them back from Drafting Monroe to man the right tackle spot for a season or two before having him and levi swap, if levi's contract still isn't up by then. Whitworth and Andrews are your starting tackles and Collins a super utility sub who takes a starting position once Levi's gone. Add a day two center and that oline could actually be good and not to expensive for your cheap ass owner.

[giantsfan]

That Bengals pick really shaped the rest of my mock. Defense has been their weakness for a long time now and you simply don't take a RT with the #2 overall pick. Rey would really sure up that defense (along with Rivers) and do more than a RT ever could.



thank you.

Levi really hasn't been very good at LT lately and so I don't see him lasting much longer than 2 more seasons there. So while initially Monroe or Oher would be playing RT they'd be starting at LT once they've adjusted and are entering their primes. That offensive line is a major problem and the single biggest unit preventing that team's success.

Defensively they've actually been tough against the run and have a strong young secondary. They need to improve their pass rush and get more bodies at LB that don't suck. I really can't see them going Rey Rey over a guy like Orakpo if they're going to go defense, because their run D has actually been pretty solid with Lions Mane leading the way at NT. They have young guys along that dline that provide good depth and can play the run, what they need is someone who'll lead the pass rush and force QBs to make passes sooner so that secondary can make some plays against the pass.

If that team where to fix their oline and add an impact pass rusher they'd be back to being contenders with depth being the main thing preventing them from amongst the NFL's elite.

[CincinnatiBengals15]

Depends on whether or not Andrews is re-signed and if he gets a long term deal what's the rate going to be on that. Who's really getting paid on that Oline other than Levi and Andrews? IF Andrews is re-signed at more reasonable rate or he's not re-signed I don't see anything holding them back from Drafting Monroe to man the right tackle spot for a season or two before having him and levi swap, if levi's contract still isn't up by then. Whitworth and Andrews are your starting tackles and Collins a super utility sub who takes a starting position once Levi's gone. Add a day two center and that oline could actually be good and not to expensive for your cheap ass owner.


I think Collins is there LT of the future Whitworth is better at LG Williams at RG has been decent but not awesome we can resign Andrews or draft RT on second day C is really the only big need we need on OL but hopefully we can get Mack in 2nd round

By the way Whitworth just got a big contract Jones makes tons of money Williams has a pretty big deal for a RG And Andrew from the tag

[CJSchneider]

9.) San Francisco 49ers – OT Andre Smith, Alabama
Good pick, whether Smith or Monroe will be the best one to pick will be seen in time, but the positionis right. I'm still not gonna be suprised if they grab a WR though.


13.) New Orleans Saints – S William Moore, Mizzou
If Curry goes one slot above, belive me, they will trade down add picks and be happy getting Mays or Cushing. Not that S isn't a need, but what depth can you build with 3 picks?

[CincinnatiBengals15]

If that team where to fix their oline and add an impact pass rusher they'd be back to being contenders with depth being the main thing preventing them from amongst the NFL's elite

LOL that is funny we need a HC and Owner who care about winning before they can be elite again

The sad part is when they were hiring new HC i want Cofflin out of all the HC they interviewed

[giantsfan]

I think Collins is there LT of the future Whitworth is better at LG Williams at RG has been decent but not awesome we can resign Andrews or draft RT on second day C is really the only big need we need on OL but hopefully we can get Mack in 2nd round

By the way Whitworth just got a big contract Jones makes tons of money Williams has a pretty big deal for a RG And Andrew from the tag

I don't see Collins as LT, He'd be a better fit at RT or guard. As I see it Collins is your long term solution at RT, Whitworth the long term solution at LG, Andrews the long term fit at RG, Center and LT still need to be filled.

[CincinnatiBengals15]

I don't see Collins as LT, He'd be a better fit at RT or guard. As I see it Collins is your long term solution at RT, Whitworth the long term solution at LG, Andrews the long term fit at RG, Center and LT still need to be filled.


From what i saw of collins in training camp when i went i though he looked good at LT that being said we dont really have any elite or passing rushing DE for him to go up against so only time will tell but i think he can play LT and thats what alot of people said about Whitworth at LT that he is a better RT but he did pretty good at LT but i think G is a nautral fit for him

[BeerBaron]

9.) San Francisco 49ers – OT Andre Smith, Alabama
Good pick, whether Smith or Monroe will be the best one to pick will be seen in time, but the positionis right. I'm still not gonna be suprised if they grab a WR though.


13.) New Orleans Saints – S William Moore, Mizzou
If Curry goes one slot above, belive me, they will trade down add picks and be happy getting Mays or Cushing. Not that S isn't a need, but what depth can you build with 3 picks?

aye, i've seen you trumpeting the Curry to the Saints horn, and a trade down would be nice for them in that spot, but I wasn't doing trades this time around.

[DoWnThEfiElD]

Lions draft is awesome.

[TickOffOurBestPlayer]

Pathetic attempt at a Browns pick. I'm not even going to waste my time in explaining why because anyone who's just going to regurgitate what ever garbage the media spews doesn't deserve and explaination.

[regoob2]

Pathetic attempt at a Browns pick. I'm not even going to waste my time in explaining why because anyone who's just going to regurgitate what ever garbage the media spews doesn't deserve and explaination.
That's helpful. :rolleyes:

[TickOffOurBestPlayer]

That's helpful. :rolleyes:

Like I said anyone who is just going to regurgitate the garbage the media spews instead of thinking for themselves doesn't desreve help.

[Dam8610]

I've been seeing this pick a lot, and not having seen Peria Jerry play, it leads to a question for me: Is he that good, especially in a scenario where the Colts are picking in the Top 20? I'm not trying to single you out, just looking for some insight into his playing style.

[BeerBaron]

I've been seeing this pick a lot, and not having seen Peria Jerry play, it leads to a question for me: Is he that good, especially in a scenario where the Colts are picking in the Top 20? I'm not trying to single you out, just looking for some insight into his playing style.

Well, he's looking pretty solid all around but will need to beef himself up or get faster or something to really be worth it. As of right now, he's probably not worth the pick, but I know its a problem position for the Colts and this early in the process, its hard to go beyond just pinpointing needs to fit players to. If they can grab the top DT (and right now it looks like Jerry....could easily change though) they should probably do so.

[Babylon]

Like I said anyone who is just going to regurgitate the garbage the media spews instead of thinking for themselves doesn't desreve help.


Are you running for office or something?

[Babylon]

[QUOTE=Xiomera;1278250]I just don't like Stafford. I prefer Bradford.

Did you watch Lsu vs Georgia?

[BeerBaron]

[QUOTE=Xiomera;1278250]I just don't like Stafford. I prefer Bradford.

Did you watch Lsu vs Georgia?

To be fair, I did the first half of this written before Saturday's games. (Fair to myself I mean for calling it, lol, jk)

[scar988]

maybe it's just me, but Atlanta has no need for a WR. we have 1) much bigger holes, and 2) a capavle group right now. what we need is a NT, a pure CB, and a guy who can be a dominant S.

[BeerBaron]

maybe it's just me, but Atlanta has no need for a WR. we have 1) much bigger holes, and 2) a capavle group right now. what we need is a NT, a pure CB, and a guy who can be a dominant S.

No real NT's worth the pick and at the time, I read something from another Falcons fan that said secondary wasn't a first round need. That has been since pointed out as flawed by other Falcons fans, so I'll think about it going that direction next time.

[d34ng3l021]

I take that back. We might have to go WR in the first. We have no other targets than Roddy White! I was high on Laurent Robinson, but he seems as if he is never going to play because of a ***** injury. Harry Douglas, in my opinion, is not a number 2 guy, but a perfect slot guy. Finneran may come up big on 3rd downs, but continues to drop other key passes.

[iloxygenil]

For the Falcons I think you have to consider Brian Cushing, Taylor Mays, Alphonso Smith and many others before we get another WR, although I do like that guy...I just don't see Falcons going WR in the first round with that many talented defenders out there.

[BeerBaron]

Hmm....so maybe still WR to the falcons or maybe not next time around, lol.

Just like last year, they're gonna be a hard team to pinpoint (especially if they're picking the area i have them in.)

Although last year I did say Matt Ryan at the start, and then I let the Falcons fans convince me it wouldn't be, and then it was....

[d34ng3l021]

Matt Ryan was not a popular pick among the fans. That happens sometimes I guess.

Just look at value. If you think a WR at that point trumps a defensive guy, then we will take the WR.

[BeerBaron]

Matt Ryan was not a popular pick among the fans. That happens sometimes I guess.

Just look at value. If you think a WR at that point trumps a defensive guy, then we will take the WR.

Well, here it would have been looking at Mays or Smith. I know a lot of people question Mays.....then I felt that DHB was more valueablethan Smith there. My opinion though....

[Menardo75]

Love it :) perfect.

[eaglesalltheway]

Probably the best two picks for the Eagles in that situation. Watch for OL, we may go that way. I've heard Rumblings that Runyan may stick around, i don't know about Tra Thomas yet, but either way we will be looking OL early.

[scar988]

I take that back. We might have to go WR in the first. We have no other targets than Roddy White! I was high on Laurent Robinson, but he seems as if he is never going to play because of a ***** injury. Harry Douglas, in my opinion, is not a number 2 guy, but a perfect slot guy. Finneran may come up big on 3rd downs, but continues to drop other key passes.
Why hell would we go WR in the first? We would be better served going with a pure all around TE than a WR. it would help the offense AND RYAN more. plus you don't waste your first round pick on a #2 WR.

[regoob2]

Why hell would we go WR in the first? We would be better served going with a pure all around TE than a WR. it would help the offense AND RYAN more. plus you don't waste your first round pick on a #2 WR.
lol, I think i've seen 500+ posts where you say no WR in the first. I agree though.

[Gay Ork Wang]

Why hell would we go WR in the first? We would be better served going with a pure all around TE than a WR. it would help the offense AND RYAN more. plus you don't waste your first round pick on a #2 WR.
The lions do!

[scar988]

The lions do!

and look where it got them. I'm sick of seeing people saying a WR in the first is all the Falcons need. we have way too many needs to warrant taking a #2 WR i nthe first round of the NFL draft. especially since we have only hit on one of our 3 first rounders in Roddy White.

[BeerBaron]

and look where it got them. I'm sick of seeing people saying a WR in the first is all the Falcons need. we have way too many needs to warrant taking a #2 WR i nthe first round of the NFL draft. especially since we have only hit on one of our 3 first rounders in Roddy White.

well, like i pointed out some posts back, i was going off of some things where i read other falcons fans saying that DB wasn't a first round need and the top TE in my draft just went one pick before them.

So that was option 3 given that there aren't any real great NTs available.

[asmitty45]

I like the Stafford pick

[BeerBaron]

I like the Stafford pick

Cool. I really think they just need to start over...new GM, new coach, new quarterback.

Calvin's a hell of a weapon to have and if they can protect him at all, it would make sense for that franchise to try moving forward with the top QB of the class (whoever it is come draft time) and try to turn things around.

[sweds2135]

8.) Minnesota Vikings – DE Brian Orakpo, Texas
Well, there aren’t any QBs worth the spot, sorry Vikings fans. But what can be addressed is their pass defense woes. Jared Allen has helped a lot, but theres still a lot of work to be done. Orakpo is the top DE after some great workouts and could have easily gone sooner than this. A d-line of Orakpo-Williams-Williams-Allen looks beastly.

OT Andre Smith, Alabama

Well, I didn't see any Viking feedback, so I thought I'd join. Who knows, maybe I'll stay for a while... :)

So, I could definitely see this scenario where there aren't any QBs of value at the Vikes pick. That will be sad, but that's how the draft works sometimes. WIth that said, our pass defense woes are more attributed to #2 CB and poor safety play rather than our LE. Granted, Ray Edwards has done nothing all year, but I don't think this is a Top 10 need.

With this pick, I'd definitely take Andre Smith. With McKinnie's problems off the field and Ryan Cook's problems on the field, they desperately need an OT. I have no doubt Andre Smith can unseat Ryan Cook by Day 2 of training camp. Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked to see Smith eventually get moved to LT and have McKinnie at RT. Either way, I think OT has to be the pick there.

[BeerBaron]

Well, I didn't see any Viking feedback, so I thought I'd join. Who knows, maybe I'll stay for a while... :)

So, I could definitely see this scenario where there aren't any QBs of value at the Vikes pick. That will be sad, but that's how the draft works sometimes. WIth that said, our pass defense woes are more attributed to #2 CB and poor safety play rather than our LE. Granted, Ray Edwards has done nothing all year, but I don't think this is a Top 10 need.

With this pick, I'd definitely take Andre Smith. With McKinnie's problems off the field and Ryan Cook's problems on the field, they desperately need an OT. I have no doubt Andre Smith can unseat Ryan Cook by Day 2 of training camp. Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked to see Smith eventually get moved to LT and have McKinnie at RT. Either way, I think OT has to be the pick there.

Feedback for every team is always appreciated. :)

Now, QB would have been the main need had one of been there, but the only two I had entering this draft and worth the pick had already gone.

So then I had to look at the other options. I brought up their depth chart, and I did remember someone commenting on another mock that a #2 corner might be a top need like you say. Jenkins was there....I thought about it. But I had Orakpo as my top DE prospect in this thing and I felt that taking the top DE to add to the pass rush might do more than taking the 2nd rated corner in this.

Now, OT like you say....another good option. One I had thought about but it just seemed way too early to take a RT, which is what a player like Smith would be unless something were to happen to McKinnie again.

So after that much thought, I went for for the top DE over a CB or RT. Maybe I'll think about it more for my next one

[jCut]

Can Aaron Curry play MLB?

[BeerBaron]

Can Aaron Curry play MLB?

I've heard from several people that think he can play any LB position in either defense. Might be stretching it a little but you can't get much worse than whats in the middle of that Bronco's D right now....no offense.

I'd strongly consider a DT there if one were worth the pick but there aren't any great ones in this draft it seems.....

Any other suggestions would be helpful in future drafts if you have them.

[jCut]

I've heard from several people that think he can play any LB position in either defense. Might be stretching it a little but you can't get much worse than whats in the middle of that Bronco's D right now....no offense.

I'd strongly consider a DT there if one were worth the pick but there aren't any great ones in this draft it seems.....

Any other suggestions would be helpful in future drafts if you have them.

No offense taken. Curry is definitely good value there, and if he could make the switch to MLB it would be a great pick. We absolutely need a safety as well, but I'm not sold on Moore or Mays yet. DE would also be a consideration with our pass rush underachieving. Someone like Greg Hardy or Michael Johnson would be hard to pass up. I also noticed Laurinaitis dropped considerably in your draft.. Don't you think Laurinaitis as a true MLB, would be a better pickup than Curry, who would have to learn a new position?

[BeerBaron]

No offense taken. Curry is definitely good value there, and if he could make the switch to MLB it would be a great pick. We absolutely need a safety as well, but I'm not sold on Moore or Mays yet. DE would also be a consideration with our pass rush underachieving. Someone like Greg Hardy or Michael Johnson would be hard to pass up. I also noticed Laurinaitis dropped considerably in your draft.. Don't you think Laurinaitis as a true MLB, would be a better pickup than Curry, who would have to learn a new position?

Just my opinion from what i've seen and heard on Laurinaitis, I think he'll have to move outside in the pros.

Get one lineman on him blocking and he can't break it....I've also heard him called nothing more than a "pile jumper" who 'makes his big plays' piling on after someone else has made a great play.

I think he'll drop come draft time personally, but he may still be an option for you if he doesn't.

i'll also keep the safety and DE ideas in mind as well for future mocks, thanks for your thoughts man.

[jCut]

Just my opinion from what i've seen and heard on Laurinaitis, I think he'll have to move outside in the pros.

Get one lineman on him blocking and he can break it....I've also heard him called nothing more than a "pile jumper" who 'makes his big plays' piling on after someone else has made a great play.

I think he'll drop come draft time personally, but he may still be an option for you if he doesn't.

i'll also keep the safety and DE ideas in mind as well for future mocks, thanks for your thoughts man.

No problem.