BCS Poll of 9/11/08

[Iamcanadian]

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/bcs


Interesting that the human voters have Alabama #1 while the computers like Texas Tech.

[BeerBaron]

11/9?

but yeah. Alabama, TT and Florida all control their destinies. Any of them win out, they'll make the title game. (Alabama and Florida play in the SEC championship, so one will knock off the other)

[MetSox17]

I'm glad the BCS has it right, not like the dumb AP.

Texas' only loss was @ #6 Texas Tech, while Florida loses to Ole Miss at home, yet they feel they should be 3rd. Pfft.

It's gonna get very interesting should Oklahoma beat Tech.

[Iamcanadian]

11/9?

but yeah. Alabama, TT and Florida all control their destinies. Any of them win out, they'll make the title game. (Alabama and Florida play in the SEC championship, so one will knock off the other)

Actually it is quite possible that Oklahoma and USC meet in the NC game. If Oklahoma beats Texas Tech they probably skip past Texas into the #2 spot.
Florida still has to play Florida St. at State and that won't be a cakewalk. If they lose to Florida St. and then beat Alabama, USC will get in the NC game against Oklahoma, and with Stoops's record in Bowl games USC could end up National Champion. Funny huh!

[MetSox17]

Actually it is quite possible that Oklahoma and USC meet in the NC game. If Oklahoma beats Texas Tech they probably skip past Texas into the #2 spot.
Florida still has to play Florida St. at State and that won't be a cakewalk. If they lose to Florida St. and then beat Alabama, USC will get in the NC game against Oklahoma, and with Stoops's record in Bowl games USC could end up National Champion. Funny huh!

There's no way Oklahoma leap frogs a team they lost to, when both their records are the same.

[BeerBaron]

There's no way Oklahoma leap frogs a team they lost to, when both their records are the same.

Doesn't matter who you lose to....matters when you lose. It sucks but them simply winning big after you could stump them past you. Sucks, but its how it is....

I'm hoping Tech can win. Would be real interesting to see them and Mike Leach and Crabtree in a championship game. I don't think theres anyone here who would miss that one.

[Iamcanadian]

There's no way Oklahoma leap frogs a team they lost to, when both their records are the same.

Sorry, but if Oklahoma beats Texas Tech soundly, they could easily leapfrog Texas. If past experiencve is any guide, winning at the end counts for a lot more than losing a few weeks ago. The human polls are notorious for giving a lot of weight to the latest game. It's only human nature. Yes, if only Oklahoma and Texas were involved Texas might hold on but in a 3 way tie, the last winner will take home the trophy.

[MetSox17]

Sorry, but if Oklahoma beats Texas Tech soundly, they could easily leapfrog Texas. If past experiencve is any guide, winning at the end counts for a lot more than losing a few weeks ago. The human polls are notorious for giving a lot of weight to the latest game. It's only human nature. Yes, if only Oklahoma and Texas were involved Texas might hold on but in a 3 way tie, the last winner will take home the trophy.

How will they easily leap frog Texas? They're ahead by a very comfortable margin in the BCS poll, you know, the one that ultimately decides? Texas most likely wont lose for the rest of the season, so it's hard for them to move down in the poll. If they're ranked ahead of both Tech and OU in the BCS, they go to the Big 12 title game, and one of Tech or OU goes crying all the way to the Cotton Bowl.

[Iamcanadian]

How will they easily leap frog Texas? They're ahead by a very comfortable margin in the BCS poll, you know, the one that ultimately decides? Texas most likely wont lose for the rest of the season, so it's hard for them to move down in the poll. If they're ranked ahead of both Tech and OU in the BCS, they go to the Big 12 title game, and one of Tech or OU goes crying all the way to the Cotton Bowl.

Excuse me but Texas leads Oklahoma by 44 points in the Harris Poll, already trails Oklahoma in the Coaches Poll and leads by 10 in the Computer Poll. If Oklahoma beats the #2 ranked team soundly they will blew past Texas quite easily. The human Polls will give them a substantial boost for beating Texas Tech and the Computer Poll will also easily more than make up 10 points for beating the #2 team.
Past experience clearly shows that whoever wins last almost always gets the nod. I'm not saying it's fair but that is the most likely scenerio.

[LonghornsLegend]

Excuse me but Texas leads Oklahoma by 44 points in the Harris Poll, already trails Oklahoma in the Coaches Poll and leads by 10 in the Computer Poll. If Oklahoma beats the #2 ranked team soundly they will blew past Texas quite easily. The human Polls will give them a substantial boost for beating Texas Tech and the Computer Poll will also easily more than make up 10 points for beating the #2 team.
Past experience clearly shows that whoever wins last almost always gets the nod. I'm not satying it's fair but that is the most likely scenerio.


I think your doing a great job of assuming and throwing the word "easily" around too much, the fact is you have no clue who will leapfrog who, for all we know Tech can lose and still win the 3 way tie breaker over OU and UT, we just don't know and neither do you.


Texas beat OU in a head to head matchup at a neutral site, alot of people who have votes in the process are ranking Texas ahead of OU for that reason, regardless of if OU beats Tech...OU didn't have a run of ranked games the way Texas did either which is something your forgetting to mention which voters haven't forgotten about.


I'd love to act like I knew who would win out, but you acting like you know for a fact OU will pass anyone is false.

[DragonFireKai]

There's no way Oklahoma leap frogs a team they lost to, when both their records are the same.

Kif, we have a conundrum!

If OU beats TT, and all three teams win out besides that. Then OU can't be ranked ahead of Texas, because they have the same record, and Texas beat them. But OU can't be ranked below TT, because they beat TT, and they have the same record. However, TT can't be ranked below Texas, because they beat Texas, and their records are the same. So OU can't be ranked below Texas, or above TT.

You can't put hard and fast rules based on what you think should happen. Past precedent shows that the end of the season is mre impactful on the standings than early or mid season. It's entirely possible that OU leaps Texas by putting a big win on their resume late in the season.

Personally, I think the Big XII's idea of linking their tie breaker to the BCS is what scientists would refer to as "Snookum Loopy". Division record, overall record, then point differential. It's not that hard. But the Big XII thought it'd be smart to link their conference's idiot money grab to a set of bastardized power rankings. Real bright boys. Real bright.

[Iamcanadian]

I think your doing a great job of assuming and throwing the word "easily" around too much, the fact is you have no clue who will leapfrog who, for all we know Tech can lose and still win the 3 way tie breaker over OU and UT, we just don't know and neither do you.


Texas beat OU in a head to head matchup at a neutral site, alot of people who have votes in the process are ranking Texas ahead of OU for that reason, regardless of if OU beats Tech...OU didn't have a run of ranked games the way Texas did either which is something your forgetting to mention which voters haven't forgotten about.


I'd love to act like I knew who would win out, but you acting like you know for a fact OU will pass anyone is false.


Look, I'd much rather see Texas in the NC game than Oklahoma given Stoops's record in Bowl Games. I think it would be a much better game.
However the fact is that Texas is barely ahead of Oklahoma right now, they are actually ranked ahead of Texas in the Coaches Poll, and should Oklahoma soundly beat Texas Tech, I seriously doubt they don't get the nod over Texas. That is just how it usually works out. People remember the last game played and Oklahoma will have to be quite impressive to soundly beat Texas Tech and that is going to swing a lot of voters their way.
If Oklahoma barely beats Texas Tech say by a FG or by 1 point, then Texas will remain in the picture and could finish ahead of Oklahoma but if it is a blow out, forget it.
Of course I don't know for sure what the results will be but after watching voting habits for 55 years of following college football, that is my best educated guess.

[LonghornsLegend]

It's not like I'm disagreeing with that theory, but if it was that easy OU would hold their own destiny, and even if they do beat Tech they still have to go to Stillwater and win a rivalry game.


There are alot of games to be played, but I don't think it's going to be as simple as you make it seem if OU does beat Tech by a few TD's...I think Tech slides to 3rd behind Texas and OU if they lose one game, especially if voters are trying to pick a potential National Champion, and if it comes down to Texas and the Sooners I don't think they get the nod, and like I said I've heard people that have votes in the process say the same thing.

[tjsunstein]

My Rankings:
#1 Alabama
#2 Texas Tech
#3 Utah
#4 Ball St.

But on a serious note who wants to see Utah in a BCS bowl? They would get killed.

[Shane P. Hallam]

Maybe BYU will beat them.

But I think if Texas wins out, and TT loses, Texas will go.