BeerBaron's 11/12 THREE rounder!

[BeerBaron]

It's really early on in the process, so I'll warn that everything after the first round was based off of what i thought would be projected needs, Scott's rankings, and what little I know about the players. So try and look more at the positions than the specific players in the 2nd and 3rd round....

Also, constructive criticism is always appreciated. If you just come in and tell me how stupid and wrong I am, then your not really helping me out very much.

I also like to hear from everyone. I like to try and get opinions from fans on each team, and multiple fans from teams if they wish. Some people have different ideas of what their team needs most and the fans of teh specific teams are probably more aware of those than I am.

I also incorporated one trade. Nothing huge, but I just wanted to make a point out of it. Possibly some mistakes, I was just bored and I find doing mock drafts fun. Let me know if you see any bad ones.

Also assume that if a top Junior prospect is missing, they didn't come out.

So let me know what you think (constructively please).

TRADE: Saints trade first rounder (#14 overall) to the Bears for their first (#22 overall), their third (#86 overall) and a 5th rounder.

1.) Detroit Lions – QB Matt Stafford, Georgia
The Lions need to clean house and start off fresh in the front office, in the coaching staff, and with their team. It’s probably a terrible idea to blow that fresh start with Daunte Culpepper or Dan Orlovsky as your QB. Remember last year when Falcons fans were swearing up and down that they weren’t going to draft a QB and that Chris Redman was their guy? How did that turn out for them? Stafford has all the tools to be a franchise QB in the NFL and with Calvin Johnson to work with, he looks like the best way to go for the Lions if they want to get out of this……half century funk that they’re in.

2.) Oakland Raiders – OT Andre Smith, Alabama
Ah the Raiders…..what poor soul will find himself throwing away his career to coach there next? Whoever it is has some talent to work with in a few spots. Russell, Fargas, McFadden….not awful. But I’m sure whoever it is won’t want Kwame Harris as their LT. In comes Andre Smith to watch Russell’s blindside and open holes in the running game.

3.) Cincinnati Bengals – OT Michael Oher, Ole Miss
Something always wants me to push defensive players on the Bengals. The fact that the defense has been their biggest problem area for Marvin Lewis’ entire tenure probably has something to do with that. Well, with no defenders quite worth the pick here, they decide to grab a guy in Oher who can keep Carson Palmer healthy and open some running lanes for whoever they find to tote the rock there.

4.) Kansas City Chiefs – QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
I don’t even want to hear Tyler Thigpen’s name right here. A 7th round pick from Coastal Carolina is very unlikely to be your franchise QB KC fans, I’m sorry but it’s just the truth. Maybe he works out a little well and can serve as a placeholder and backup, or maybe it works out really well and you end up with a Brees/Rivers or Anderson/Quinn situation. At any rate, Bradford looks like the real deal and with a guy who be your franchise QB brought in, your future looks a little brighter.

5.) San Francisco 49ers – OT Eugene Monroe, Virginia
Well, it doesn’t look like the 49ers land one of the top QBs of the class, but they do grab a guy who’ll help solidify their o-line and protect whoever it is they find to be their QB headed into the future.

6.) St. Louis Rams – CB Vontae Davis, Illinois
So the spark that Jim Haslett brought with him is gone and so are the elite OT’s. So next comes well….pretty much best defensive player available. The Jets lit up the Rams this past week and they could probably use an upgrade anywhere. In comes the very talented Davis who be just the stud cover man they need.

7.) Seattle Seahawks – WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech
Seattle needs some offensive weapons. Bad. I can’t even name some of the guys offhand who’ve been catching passes for this team. Also, Jim Mora Jr will likely be taking over at HC and he’s shown in the past that he likes to grab receivers early when he was in Atlanta. (Michael Jenkins and Roddy White in back to back years.) I think Crabtree has proven that he will be a surefire top 10 pick over the last few weeks with huge performances against big time competition.

8.) Cleveland Browns – DE/OLB Brian Orakpo, Texas
For having a defensive minded coach, that side of the ball hasn’t been doing particularly well in Cleveland. Even if its not Romeo who’s around to utilize him, Orakpo is an extremely talented pass rush who could play end in a 43 or OLB in a 34 and really help out this team no matter what direction they go in the offseason.

9.) Houston Texans – HB Beanie Wells, Ohio State
Wells is probably the top runner in this years draft and the Texans snap him up here to add another dimension to their offense. Steve Slaton has done well so far this year but as an every down back, I think he lives a little to be desired. He would provide some good lightning to Beanie’s thunder however as the Texans look to take that next step forward.

10.) Miami Dolphins – DE/OLB Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech
The Dolphins are a team on the rise making Parcells look like a genius for the way he put together this team and staff, but they still have some needs to fill before they can really move onward. Joey Porter has been great so far this season but he’s not the youngest guy around anymore and he would probably benefit from having another stud rusher on the team. Johnson brings more in terms of potential and physical gifts than he does in production, but if this coaching staff can get the most out of his talent then he could be a real stud for a very long time.

11.) Jacksonville Jaguars – CB Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State
Well, the Jaguars went from a superbowl caliber squad to one who’s can’t even beat the lowly Bengals. Rashean Mathis on one side of the secondary is a great corner but the other side could use an upgrade and Jenkins would certainly bring that.

12.) Green Bay Packers – OT Jason Smith, Baylor
Well, the Vikings d-line made a laughing stock out of the Packers o-line this past week and if they want to be a team who stays in contention, they need to keep Rodgers upright and healthy. That’s where Smith comes in to provide a shot of youth to the teams OTs who are getting a little over the hill.

13.) San Diego Chargers – LB Rey Maualuga, USC
Like the Jags and Packers, the Chargers are a team who has been having trouble finding the success of previous seasons. Losing Merrimen probably has a great deal to do with that, but he’ll be returning and in the meantime, the Bolts can grab a stud linebacker like Maualuga to man the interior of their defense.

14.) Chicago Bears (From NO) – DE Greg Hardy, Ole Miss
In an incredibly rare move, the Bears decide to trade up in order to fill what has become their biggest need. The Bears pass rush has been abysmal of late and with the stud pass rushers starting to go off the board (Orakpo, Johnson) the Bears climb up to grab a guy who will hopefully have a big impact on the weakest are of their defense.

15.) Tampa Bay Bucs – DT Sen’Derrick Marks, Auburn
Well, the defense the Bucs are sporting now certainly isn’t the elite unit of years past but giving a good coordinator like Monte Kiffin a talented DT like Marks will certainly help. It’s typically a bad thing when a guy like Chris Hovan still pays a prominent part in your defense…

16.) Buffalo Bills – DE George Selvie, USF
The Bills looked like a team early on in the year who was ready to take that next step and become serious contenders in the weakened AFC. They’ve recently begun to stall however and the lack of a pass rush is at least partly to blame. Selvie has been getting double teamed so far this year so his numbers are down but the ability to get after the passer is still there in this guy. He should provide an immediate upgrade over Schobel who is growing older and Kelsey who, according to some Bills fans I’ve read posts of, is terrible.

17.) Detroit Lions (from Dal) – LB Aaron Curry, Wake Forrest
With their 2nd pick of the first round, the Lions immediately need to upgrade their defense. Laurinaitis first came to mind with this pick, but I really like what Curry brings to the table in terms of all around ability and intensity. Outside of maybe Ernie Simms, there aren’t many players on that defense I would really want on my team, so Curry will bring an instant punch to the mix.

18.) Minnesota Vikings – CB Alphonso Smith, Wake Forrest
Back to back Wake Forrest picks in the first round? Boy how times have changed…Minny’s pass defense has still been struggling this season even with Jared Allen playing lights out, so that points to the coverage as the real problem. Smith isn’t some lights out, shut down corner but he has a nose for the ball and nice speed to boot.

19.) Philadelphia Eagles – S William Moore, Missouri
Brian Dawkins has been a great safety for years, but he’s not getting any younger and it might be time to bring in a long term replacement. Moore is a big kid and can mix it up from a physical standpoint while also still being a playmaker in the secondary.

20.) Indianapolis Colts – WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland
A WR? You kidding me? With their defensive struggles? You better believe it. Having a million weapons for Peyton Manning to work with has been a staple of this team for years now, and its starting to look like Marvin Harrison might finally be on his last legs after a great career. DHB might need some polishing at first to get the most out of his immense physical ability, but that offense would be a great place for him to learn while Reggie Wayne, Anthony Gonzalez and Dallas Clark provide the top weapons for Manning.

21.) Denver Broncos – MLB James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
Come draft time, I think Laurinatis will start to fall a little in the eyes of NFL teams. He is still a talented player however and will certainly be an upgrade over just about anyone else that Denver defense has playing for it now.
22.) New Orleans Saints (from Chicago) – LB Brian Cushing, USC
The Saints manage to trade down and still pick up a player that fills a great need for them. That defense still isn’t up to par with what Drew Brees can do on offense, and Cushing is a very talented player who will bring some strength to that defense.

23.) NY Jets – RB Knowshon Moreno, Georgia
Moreno is a popular pick to the Jets and perhaps rightfully so. Thomas Jones can still be a decent back in the league, but this team broke the bank in the offseason to try and compete with the Pats in the division. Who knows how long Favre will be around for them, so getting a stud tailback to bring another dimension to the offense is critical.

24.) Washington Redskins – C Alex Mack, Cal
The o-line for the Skins is a very veteran group with little depth. An injection of youth is just what the doctor ordered, and Mack can bring that. Whether its at his natural C spot or a move to G, he will help keep that offense humming while protecting Campbell and opening holes for Portis.

25.) Philadelphia Eagles (From Car) – OG Duke Robinson, Oklahoma
I’ve seen a number of mocks that are just torn to shreds when they give Loadholt to the Eagles. Well…how about his teammate Duke? I know its their tackles who need replaced, but I think that between Robinson, Gean-Gilles and Shaun Andrews, this team can fill both guard spots and at least one OT spot with some very big and very talented lineman.

26.) Baltimore Ravens – WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri
Joe Flacco is looking like a real keeper at QB and between McGahee, Rice and McClain, the run game should also be just fine. However, Mark Clayton doesn’t appear to be panning out at WR and Derek Mason isn’t getting any younger. Maclin will bring an instant impact on special teams while developing long term to be Flacco’s favorite target as they try and phase out Mason.

27.) Atlanta Falcons – S Taylor Mays, USC
WR is a popular pick for the Falcons but I’m going to try a different direction here. Atlanta has been blowing past all expectations for them this year but they could still use help in several areas, including at S. Mays may ultimately end up going much higher than this, but he would bring some punch to Atlanta’s defensive backfield that they haven’t really had in quite a while.

28.) New England Patriots – CB Darius Butler, UConn
After finally going for a youth movement in their linebacking corps last year with Mayo, Crable and Guyton, the Pats address their lackluster and beaten up secondary here with Butler. When your starting guys like Deltha O’Neal and Lewis Sanders, you know you’ve got a problem…

29.) Arizona Cardinals – RB CJ Spiller, Clemson
Kurt Warner has had a great resurgence in the dessert this year and Tim Hightower is looking like a good young running back for them as well. But with Edge likely on his way out, the Cards decide to bring in a speedier back to pair with Hightower for the future in Spiller.

30.) Pittsburgh Steelers – OT James Meredith, South Carolina
The Steelers o-line has been far and away their biggest problem this year and it doesn’t look any better moving forward with several key members hitting free agency. Meredith will hopefully provide them with a long term answer at LT that is better than Marvel Smith or Trai Essex…

31.) Tennessee Titans – DE/DT Tyson Jackson, LSU
The Titans have really been on a roll this year, thanks in large part o great play by both their offensive and defensive lines. However, losing Albert Haynesworth is a real possibility and even if he’s brought back, a versatile player like Jackson would provide them with some quality depth and talent along the defensive line.

32.) NY Giants – OLB Clint Sintim, Virginia
Even when Osi gets healthy, it looks like Kiwi will be kept at DE where he’s having excellent success this year. That leaves an opening at OLB where upgrades over Danny Clark and Gerris Wilkinson could be used. Sintim is a big guy and will give the Giants LB corps a real punch moving forward.

ROUND 2

33.) Detroit Lions – DE Everette Brown, Florida State
After grabbing a franchise QB and a stud LB already, the Lions look to address their pass rush here.

34.) Oakland Raiders – DT Peria Jerry, Ole Miss
Unless you’re a fan of the team, try naming a Raiders DT not named Tommy Kelly. Thought so…and even Kelly has been bad.

35.) Cincinnati Bengals – HB Javon Ringer, Michigan St.
Cedric Benson? Really? Ringer has shown he can handle the load and Cincy needs a real runner in the worst way.

36.) Kansas City Chiefs – OL Herman Johnson, LSU
Brandon Albert is looking good at LT I hear, but the rest of that o-line could use some work as well and keeping Bradford upright should be a top priority.

37.) San Francisco 49ers – WR Percy Harvin, Florida
Harvin falls a bit and the 49ers gladly snap him up. He instantly helps out the return game and gives whoever is at QB a playmaking option to go to.

38.) St. Louis Rams – TE Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma
Randy McMichael has been injured lately and the Rams just generally need more weapons. At this point, Gresham is too valueable to pass up here.

39.) Seattle Seahawks – S Patrick Chung, Oregon
An upgrade in the secondary is just what the doctor ordered after getting a bigtime weapon in the first round.

40.) Cleveland Browns – ILB Brandon Spikes, Florida
After getting some pass rush help in the first, the Browns go LB again in Spikes to provide some help in the middle of the defense.

41.) Houston Texans – WR Derrick Williams, Penn St.
An instant impact in the return game and hopefully another weapon for the offense to take pressure off of Andre Johnson.

42.) Miami Dolphins – NT BJ Raji, Boston College
A true NT to backup and eventually replace the aging Jason Fergusen to keep that 34 defense running strong.

43.) Jacksonville Jaguars – WR Brian Robiskie, Ohio St
Joey Porter? Matt Jones? Troy Williamson?? C’mon….a nicer weapon for Garrard.

44.) Green Bay Packers – DE Maurice Evans, Penn State
A talented player that falls a bit due to character concerns and adds great depth for the Packers d-line.

45.) New England Pats (from SD) – DE/OLB Cody Brown, UConn
With Vrabel and Thomas getting older, more help to the pass rush is just what the Pats need to keep their defense strong.

46.) NY Giants (from NO) – OL Max Unger, Oregon
The Giants o-line has been one of the best in football the past two seasons but they’re not the youngest group and at the least, depth is needed.

47.) Tampa Bay Bucs – TE Brandon Pettigrew, Ok St
Pettigrew is very talented and falls due to some character concerns. He should provide and instant upgrade for a team that keeps Jeremy Stevens around…

48.) Buffalo Bills – TE Chase Coffman, Missouri
The Bills bring in a TE to give Trent Edwards another weapon moving forward.

49.) Dallas Cowboys – OL Craig Urbik, Wisconsin
The Cowboys o-line is another veteran group but could use a bit of youth and depth.

50.) Minnesota Vikings – RT Phil Loadholt, Oklahoma
If I hear one more Vikings fan ***** about Ryan Cook….Loadholt might not be much as a pass blocker, but imagine McKinnie and Loadholt on both sides of that line? Sick…AP would run wild for years to come.

51.) Philly Eagles – CB Mike Mickens, Cincy
Asante and Sheldon Brown work well as starters, but I bet they try and trade Lito if they get a good offer. Depth would be fantastic.

52.) Indy Colts – DT Fili Moala, USC
After getting more for the already rich offense in the first round, the Colts grab a really talented player to plug into the middle of their defensive line here.

53.) Denver Broncos – RB James Davis, Clemson
After years and years of always producing quality running backs, the Broncos have had issues lately. Davis should jump near the top of their depth chart ahead of undrafted and late round pick nobodies.

54.) Chicago Bears – OG Tyronne Green, Auburn
Youth and talent are needed potentially at both G spots and Green will certainly be able to man one of them.

55.) NY Jets – CB Victor Harris, Virginia Tech
The Jets just cut Justin Miller in order to bring in Ty Law. Yeah…that looks real good for the future of their secondary….

56.) Miami Dolphins (from Wash) – CB Bruce Johnson, Miami
After getting some help for the front 7, the Dolphins grab some talent for their secondary with a local college kid.

57.) Carolina Panthers – OT Eben Britton, Arizona
If he comes out, he might actually go much higher than this, but for now, he helps out the Panthers who surely won’t be able to keep each of Gross, Peppers and Gamble.

58.) Baltimore Ravens – CB DeAngelo Smith, Cincy
Chris McAllister might be done in Baltimore plus youth and depth were needed to begin with.

59.) Atlanta Falcons – DT Terrance Taylor, Michigan
A big boy who looks to be the NT type DT in middle of their defense.

60.) New England Pats – ILB Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina
The Pats grab some more youth/depth for their defense as well as Teddy Bruschi’s future replacement here.

61.) Arizona Cardinals – DE/OLB Matt Shaughnessy, Wisconsin
A pass rushing OLB for their 34 defense to help with the possible loss of Dansby.

62.) Pittsburgh Steelers – DT/DE Vance Walker, Georgia Tech
Some depth for their d-line which proved to be lacking a year ago when Aaron Smith was injured.

63.) Tennessee Titans – WR Louis Murphy, Florida
This team’s biggest area of weakness may be its group of pass catchers so they nab one here to help out.

64.) NY Giants – DT Darryl Richard, Georgia Tech
The Giants bring in some depth for the…more neglected middle part of their d-line.

ROUND 3

65.) Detroit Lions – CB Dominique Johnson, Jackson St.
A talented small school prospect for the Lions to work with in their secondary.

66.) Oakland Raiders – WR Brandon Tate, North Carolina
Al Davis looks past the injury to pick up a talented receiver and return man here.

67.) Cincinnati Bengals – MLB Derry Beckwith, LSU
A MLB to pair with last years pick in Rivers to help replace Dhani Jones.

68.) Kansas City Chiefs – WR Juaquin Iglesias, Oklahoma
When your relying on Mark Bradley to be your #2 wideout…..ugh….you’ve got to get someone better to feed off the coverage Bowe will draw.

69.) San Fran 49ers – QB Hunter Cantwell, Louisville
Someone for whoever is coaching that team to develop behind O’Sullivan/Hill/whoever else they dig up.

70.) St. Louis Rams – RB Arian Foster, Tennessee
When S-Jax goes down, this team seems to struggle using guys like Kenneth Dary and Antonio Pittman. Whatever happened to Brian Leonard too? Foster should provide a talented backup.

71.) Seattle Seahawks – RB Reshad Jennings, Liberty
A small school running back who’s tearing up his level of play. Could be like Hightower is for the Cards for Seattle and should at least compete with guys like Morris and Jones.

72.) Dallas Cowboys (From Cle) – QB Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State
Brad Johnson? Brooks Bollinger? Dallas fans will be demanding a real backup to Tony Romo after this disastrous season. Who knows, with some development, Bomar could even end up giving the Cowboys a Matt Schaub type situation.

73.) Houston Texans – S Courtney Greene, Rutgers
Secondary help is always a must when you face the Colts twice a year.

74.) Miami Dolphins – WR Mohammed Massaquoi, Georgia
Some much needed help for a WR corps that currently sports the likes of Greg Camarillo and Ernest Wilford behind Tedd Ginn.

75.) Jacksonville Jags – OG Trevor Canfield, Cincy
It seems like the Jags lose a few OGs every game anymore…some depth there is greatly needed.

76.) Green Bay Packers – DT Alex McGee, Purdue
Some more depth for the d-line in case Harrell doesn’t get healthy or Jolly has legal issues.

77.) San Diego Chargers – RT Alex Boone, Ohio State
Some depth for the o-line and some help in case Clary isn’t the long term answer at RT.

78.) New Orleans – S David Bruton, Notre Dame
A pick to address the Saints 2nd biggest area of need after taking Cushing in the first.

79.) Tampa Bay – LB Marcus Freeman, Ohio State
Some depth and perhaps a long term plan in case Derrick Brooks should decide to hang it up.

80.) Buffalo Bills – MLB Dannell Ellerbe, Georgia
Doesn’t look like Crowell will be coming back and some depth is certainly needed.

81.) Detroit Lions (from Dal) – OT Troy Kropog, Tulana
Some depth for the o-line and perhaps a long term LT for behind Backus.

82.) Minnesota Vikings – QB Graham Harrell, Texas Tech
Tavaris Jackson? No… Gus Frerotte? No…. JDB? Maybe, but we have no idea…. Harrell is a great college QB and perhaps he can shed the “system” label on him.

83.) Philly Eagles – TE Travis Beckham, Wisconsin
LJ Smith always seems to have one foot out the door and Brent Celek has looked good at times…Beckham is talented but hurt, and the Eagles took a flier on another talented but injured Wisconsin player last year….

84.) Indy Colts – C Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas
Some depth and possibly an upgrade along the interior o-line.

85.) Denver Broncos – DT Roy Miller, Texas
More help for that Bronco’s D that has been abysmal this year.

86.) New Orleans Saints (From Chi) – CB Brandon Underwood, Cincy
Depth for their secondary which always seems to lose Mike McKenzie anymore…

87.) NY Jets – NT Ron Brace, Boston College
Kris Jenkins has made an incredible impact for their defense but he’s not the youngest person around and depth is fairly lacking.

88.) Washington Redskins – DE Stryker Sulak, Missouri
Some depth for behind the aging Jason Taylor. I also saw this guy compared to Jared Allen….if the Skins get half of Jared Allen out of this guy it would make it worth it.

89.) Carolina Panthers – DE Pannel Eghoh, Stanford
Could help with the potential loss of Peppers and just some depth in general.

90.) Baltimore Ravens – LB Scott McKillop, Pitt
Depth for their aging LB corps.

91.) Atlanta Falcons – WR Demtrius Byrd, LSU
A possible future #2 option to play across from Roddy White in the event that they lose Jenkins to FA.

92.) New England Pats – LB/S Nic Harris, Oklahoma
An incredibly versatile player who can help out that defense in a number of ways.

93.) Arizona Cardinals – OT Andrew Gardner, Georgia Tech
Mike Gandy is still this teams starting LT? Pick provides depth at least.

94.) Pittsburgh Steelers – C Eric Wood, Louisville
Depth for the interior part of their o-line.

95.) Tennessee Titans – CB Morgan Trent, Michigan
Depth for their secondary.

96.) NY Giants – RB Brandon Ore, West Liberty St.
Talented but with character concerns. Should help with the potential loss of Derrick Ward or Brandon Jacobs to keep their RB rotation strong.

[Young Legend]

I would go with Herman Johnson in the second and just continue to rebuild that offense line.

but good job.

[RaiderNation]

Solid raider draft there. IDK about the Tate pick since he tore his ACL.

1st great pick, Andre is going to be a top 5 LT I think
2nd nice value pick plus it fills a need. Harvin will be hard for Al to pass though
3rd IDK about the Tate pick since he tore his ACL. A DE,OLB and S are also possible.

[RaiderNation]

I would go with Herman Johnson in the second and just continue to rebuild that offense line.

but good job.

No need if we just drafted Andre Smith with the 1st. Our guards are playing pretty good. With Andre Smith at LT and Harris/Henderson at RT I think our oline will play alot better.

[BeerBaron]

I would go with Herman Johnson in the second and just continue to rebuild that offense line.

but good job.

Solid raider draft there. IDK about the Tate pick since he tore his ACL.

1st great pick, Andre is going to be a top 5 LT I think
2nd nice value pick plus it fills a need. Harvin will be hard for Al to pass though
3rd IDK about the Tate pick since he tore his ACL. A DE,OLB and S are also possible.

Cool, cool, good to hear. It's almost hard to go wrong with the Raiders picks though....they need so much help everywhere. Smith and Jerry I think will do wonders and if Tate is healthy, he should provide a dynamic weapon for them too.

[princefielder28]

I would like Eben Britton in round two for Green Bay. If it went Smith and Britton for the Packers then they'd have their future tackles set up and it would give them time before they'd have to step in and play.

[BeerBaron]

I would like Eben Britton in round two for Green Bay. If it went Smith and Britton for the Packers then they'd have their future tackles set up and it would give them time before they'd have to step in and play.

hmm...makes sense, makes sense. I'm usually wary of giving teams players at the same position in early rounds like that, but i could understand it if they went that way.

[T-RICH49]

why can't Thigpen be the guy.I mean not all great QB''s were 1st round picks(see Warner, Brady etc.) and have you seen Mark Bradley play?he has legitimized the #2 WR opposite Bowe.Love the Herman Johnson pick

[BeerBaron]

why can't Thigpen be the guy.I mean not all great QB''s were 1st round picks(see Warner, Brady etc.) and have you seen Mark Bradley play?he has legitimized the #2 WR opposite Bowe.Love the Herman Johnson pick

I always knew Bradley had talent, but he was always hurt in Chicago and was always in Lovie's doghouse for one reason or another....I wouldn't be too trusting of him.

And I know there are a few great QB's out there who came out of nowhere, but those guys are by a wide margin the exceptions and not the rules. A lot will be determined over the rest of this season about Thigpen, but unless the guy continues to be studly against better competition, I think it would be a huge mistake to pass on someone like Bradford for him.

[The Dynasty]

I havent been really been update with the prospects and how they are doing for the selected people, you have the vikings taking but The positions are all correct. Cedric Griffin is a good hitter but he cant cover people so we do need a better guy to help winfield. RT tackle is a concern as well because ryan cook is ryan cook. Then QB is also a concern as well, I sort of wish Gus was younger because he has done pretty well this year other than the turnovers. So I agree with you on all the positions you have the vikings taking.

[Babylon]

Really liked those first two picks for Seattle.

[BeerBaron]

I havent been really been update with the prospects and how they are doing for the selected people, you have the vikings taking but The positions are all correct. Cedric Griffin is a good hitter but he cant cover people so we do need a better guy to help winfield. RT tackle is a concern as well because ryan cook is ryan cook. Then QB is also a concern as well, I sort of wish Gus was younger because he has done pretty well this year other than the turnovers. So I agree with you on all the positions you have the vikings taking.

Cool. I know I've heard plenty of complaints about the Griffin and Cook, so replacements for them were musts in my mind. The I got to the 3rd round and thought that another QB could really help. JDB still hasn't seen the field, and as long as teh Vikings are winning, he probably won't which makes it hard to really evaluate the QB situation headed into next year.

Really liked those first two picks for Seattle.

Very cool. Crabtree is probably my favorite prospect in this year draft (see my sig) and is certainly very, very talented. Seattle seems like a good landing spot for a player of his qualities and should help rejuvenate Hasselbeck a bit I would hope.

[G-Men88]

Can't really complain with the Giants draft. If Taylor Mays falls into the 20's we would definitely trade up to get him though.

[abaddon41_80]

I love the 49er's first two picks, I would have an orgasm if Harvin falls to us, but I don't like the Cantwell pick at all. I could see the 49ers drafting a QB a little later to sit behind Hill/Smith but they desperately need a pass rusher that can make an immediate impact

[BeerBaron]

Can't really complain with the Giants draft. If Taylor Mays falls into the 20's we would definitely trade up to get him though.

Cool, good to hear. So a Mays-Phillips duo of safeties is what your looking for then? Interesting.

I love the 49er's first two picks, I would have an orgasm if Harvin falls to us, but I don't like the Cantwell pick at all. I could see the 49ers drafting a QB a little later to sit behind Hill/Smith but they desperately need a pass rusher that can make an immediate impact

Good to hear on teh first two picks, I'm just not sure that a pass rusher who can make an immediate impact available in the 3rd round though.

[derza222]

For the Jets, first of all it's hard to tell because they're conditional picks but I'm pretty sure the Packers have at least our third for Favre and it could be the second too if we make the playoffs, and we also have a pick from the Saints (probably a third, maybe a second) for Vilma.

For the picks they're alright but your reasoning is kind of off. I have never been a big fan of Moreno, simply because tailback is not an immediate need. Thomas Jones has been incredibly solid this year and really consistant, he's been the guy that makes our offense and passing game go. Leon Washington is one of the more underutilized playmakers in the game. So with Jones not falling off quite yet and having a solid backup that adds a different dimension with pass catching, quickness, and big play ability, where do Moreno's touches come from? I'd say we underutilize our backs now, imagine if we had three guys that deserve touches. When RB is an immediate need for the Jets, i.e. Jones is no longer a starting caliber back in the league, then yeah go take an RB in the first (although I'd personally rather build the line). But I really just don't see a "critical need" for a back. Given that's the case, I'd rather wait till the midrounds or another year. Beyond that if we go for a back I'd like to see a bigger guy that adds a different dimension to our offense.

Corner is probably a bit of a need, definitely moreso than it was earlier in the year. Safety was actually our big need early on in the season though if Abram Elam continues his solid play I don't think we address the position outside of the middle/late rounds especially because our depth is awful. Still with corner Ty Law probably wasn't brought in to start, more to mentor and probably help our slot/tight end coverage. Dwight Lowery has committed some penalties over the last few games and can get burnt deep but has been solid, made some big plays, and shows very good potential as a #2 CB across from Revis who is an absolute stud. Point being we do have a potential starter and a definite #1 as well so it's not exactly the need you make it out to be. Harris is a good player so given the values alright it's definitely not a bad pick but corner isn't nearly the need you make it out to be.

The third round pick is definitely my favorite, Jinx has been amazing but his health is a concern and depth is alright with Pouha but we could definitely get better at the position. Nice for the future and for now.

Needs that I'd prefer addressing over RB and CB that you made out to be large needs would be DE (Ellis is good but Coleman's an average starter and we have little youth at the position), ILB (Barton's been playing out of his mind and Harris is fantastic but Barton may not be around much longer and our depth at the position isn't great, David Bowens a more natural OLB in the 3-4 is our third ILB), WR (Coles is aging a little and we could use a little more playmaking ability and size in the receiving corps, plus they take awhile to develop so hopefully by the time LC retires whoever we draft would be ready to start, plus they could contribute early because we don't have a legit #3 wideout right now), and OL (can't hurt to have another good lineman in my eyes, plus Woody's not a great fit at RT and Moore could be upgraded at RG). Safety could be a pretty big need as well since the spot next to Rhodes was probably our weakest starting position when Eric Smith was starting. However as I said Elam's been holding it down well so if he continues to do so depth will be the only issue at safety.

[Menardo75]

Yeah pretty solid Niner draft. A safety in the third would not be bad either.

[BeerBaron]

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wow, good input. I'll definitely keep what you've said here in mind for next time around. thanks for the info.

Yeah pretty solid Niner draft. A safety in the third would not be bad either.

cool.

[Geo]

If you could just switch Heyward-Bey with Maclin, I would love that Colts' draft very much.

Excellent effort, BB.

[BeerBaron]

If you could just switch Heyward-Bey with Maclin, I would love that Colts' draft very much.

Excellent effort, BB.

DHB for Maclin eh? I'll keep that in mind. Have a real reason for your preference? I know both are excellent playmakers...just thought that DHB's size and potential made him a better prospect in my mind. Maclin does bring the whole return man thing though.....hmm

[CJSchneider]

TRADE: Saints trade first rounder (#14 overall) to the Bears for their first (#22 overall), their third (#86 overall) and a 5th rounder.

Sweet- I love it.

5.) San Francisco 49ers – OT Eugene Monroe, Virginia
Love the pick.

22.) New Orleans Saints (from Chicago) – LB Brian Cushing, USC
Someone has been listening - great trade and pick.

37.) San Francisco 49ers – WR Percy Harvin, Florida
Great pick. Bruce is on his way out and Battle is not good enough to be a #1 guy

69.) San Fran 49ers – QB Hunter Cantwell, Louisville
OK - Could see it. Rhett Bomar "Rhomar" could also be an option. Don't be shocked if they go with the best DE on the boards here either.

78.) New Orleans – S David Bruton, Notre Dame
A need pick for sure. I'd love to see them get Nic Harris, who I think you have going way too low.

86.) New Orleans Saints (From Chi) – CB Brandon Underwood, Cincy
I must admit, I haven't see a lot of this guy so I'm going to agree because the pick fits a need. Don't be surprised if we go with a DT to buddy up with Ellis.

Great mock.

[Geo]

My blind guess is that Maclin is more likely to be picked by the Colts if the two were somehow on the board. Plus as you said, he would cement the return man position as well.

[bored of education]

A+++ BB for KC's draft

I still beleive in the Golden Rule of Drafting Franchise signals callers. At this point you cannot legiamtely say Thigpen is the real deal hollyfield so drafting Bradford is the right answer.

Herman=BEAST

WR is a good call a number 2 WR is not bad esp with Mark B at number 2 for now. He is an injury liability and you cant ever have too many play makers!

[Matthew Jones]

28.) New England Patriots – CB Darius Butler, UConn
After finally going for a youth movement in their linebacking corps last year with Mayo, Crable and Guyton, the Pats address their lackluster and beaten up secondary here with Butler. When your starting guys like Deltha O’Neal and Lewis Sanders, you know you’ve got a problem…

I understand the secondary concerns, but we did also draft Wheatley in the second and when Bruschi retires we're going to be VERY thin at linebacker with some age/durability concerns from Vrabel/Thomas. I'd go with Brandon Spikes here. Butler isn't physical enough to be a good fit, even though as a UConn player I like him. Sintim, Everette are two other good options.

45.) New England Pats (from SD) – DE/OLB Cody Brown, UConn
With Vrabel and Thomas getting older, more help to the pass rush is just what the Pats need to keep their defense strong.

Again, we need secondary help but I don't think Brown would be a good pick. He's a bit raw as far as pass rushing goes and he doesn't have many moves. I have him in the third round or so and I think this represents a substantial reach. Mike Mickens is a better player, and if we had Spikes, Sintim, or Everette in the first, that would be amazing for the first two.

60.) New England Pats – ILB Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina
The Pats grab some more youth/depth for their defense as well as Teddy Bruschi’s future replacement here.

Honestly, this is a guy I could very easily see going undrafted. He has durability issues and he's also pretty slow. I would rather play a number of our young linebackers than Brinkley. I see Marcus Freeman as a much better linebacker.

92.) New England Pats – LB/S Nic Harris, Oklahoma
An incredibly versatile player who can help out that defense in a number of ways.

I actually like this pick, haha. Overall, it could use a lot of work but the effort is incredible. If I didn't just +rep you for helping in my mock draft, I would give you more here.

[Sniper]

Jesus H. Christ, let's make babies. You're dead-on about the guards and Loadholt. I'm a big believer in Andrews at RT, and you could also kick Herremans out to left tackle.

Herremans-Robinson-Jackson-MJG-Andrews.

Sexy.

For safety, either Moore or Mays would work. Personally, I'm a big Mays guy, but Moore is awesome too.

Mickens is another fine pick. I'm sure Lito is on the first plane out of town after the season, so a young NB would be nice.

Beckum is a good TE for this scheme. He's not a good blocker, but he just needs to catch the ball and get in the way of players during blocking.

[fenikz]

decent cardinals draft, seems we are reaching on all 3 picks which is unlikely with Graves as our GM but they are all positions of need

[Young Legend]

No need if we just drafted Andre Smith with the 1st. Our guards are playing pretty good. With Andre Smith at LT and Harris/Henderson at RT I think our oline will play alot better.

Carlisle is on the decline and will not survive in a man to man blocking system. You add H.Johnson at RG with Smith,gallery,grove,johnson,henderson talk about a much improved offense line.

[RaiderNation]

I was typing a 2 round mock draft.... was 3 picks away from finishing.... and my internet got unplugged some how :(

I say draft Demtrius Byrd in the 3rd, played with JaMarcus, has good size and speed.

[RaiderNation]

Carlisle is on the decline and will not survive in a man to man blocking system. You add H.Johnson at RG with Smith,gallery,grove,johnson,henderson talk about a much improved offense line.

That oline does sound pretty nasty, but I think a DT or WR is a bigger need for us to get better. I mean if u gave us the best OG in the league right now, not much would change. But give us Larry Fitz or Abert Haynsworth right now we might have a few more wins.

Plus we have Paul McQuistan coming back next year and he played decent before he got hurt

[TaylorMade]

The skins draft is fine. It's a tough pick to make, as there's no player that will come in and be an instant starter. I'm impressed that you stated Mack at guard because that's more than likely the position he'd battling for.

[indyfan1985]

Not so high on your Colts draft. Here is what I would change...

1st round- They are gonna target DT Sen'Derrick Marks, but if he isnt there, as you have in this scenario, they would go with WR Jeremy Macklin who is better than Hayword-Bay.

2nd round- Im not so high on Moali as others are. I think they will target either CB or OL in the 2nd and I like possibly Victor Harris in the 2nd for them. I would really like Asher Allen if he declares.

3rd round- There is no question on this one. If DT Roy Miller is there I REALLY want the Colts to take him. He can play both NT and UT spots for them.

[keylime_5]

that mock looks pretty darn good. I don't think Davis is gonna go higher than Jenkins, Malcolm's stock is sky high and he will run a between a 4.35 and 4.45 which I think will cement him as a higher pick.

[DiG]

loving the skins mock. id grade that out as an A.

[Yatta!]

I like Jason Smith but I think #12 is too high for him. I expect that we could trade down and still grab him but I'd prefer to get Hardy/Selvie and then Eben Britton in the 2nd as PF said.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Interesting and possible first rounder for the Titans. I think you have the positions right for the second and third rounders, but Louis Murphy and Morgan Trent that high makes me want to vomit. Good effort.

[GB12]

I like Jason Smith but I think #12 is too high for him. I expect that we could trade down and still grab him but I'd prefer to get Hardy/Selvie and then Eben Britton in the 2nd as PF said.
12 is kind of high for him, but a good pick when not paying attention to where we're selecting. I do not want to go DE in round 1. Only way I see us taking a DE is if we move Jenkins back to DT (which I'm strongly against) and then we'd need a complete DE, not a guy like Selvie. I'd be fine with Britton in the second, though I'd like to grab Pettigrew if he's sitting there at our second rounder.

EDIT: Also what about the Favre pick. He's likely already played over 50% of the snaps so It'd be a third already.

[Bengalsrocket]

<3 mocks that avoid Chris Wells for cinci. I feel like we're in a bad position because we're going to have to high of a draft pick to get a center and there won't be a MLB worthy of the 1-2-3rd overall pick which we likely will get it.

All 3 rounds were pretty solid choices I suppose for cinci, but I hope to god we can win our way out of the top 3 picks :(

[BeerBaron]

TRADE: Saints trade first rounder (#14 overall) to the Bears for their first (#22 overall), their third (#86 overall) and a 5th rounder.

Sweet- I love it.

5.) San Francisco 49ers – OT Eugene Monroe, Virginia
Love the pick.

22.) New Orleans Saints (from Chicago) – LB Brian Cushing, USC
Someone has been listening - great trade and pick.

37.) San Francisco 49ers – WR Percy Harvin, Florida
Great pick. Bruce is on his way out and Battle is not good enough to be a #1 guy

69.) San Fran 49ers – QB Hunter Cantwell, Louisville
OK - Could see it. Rhett Bomar "Rhomar" could also be an option. Don't be shocked if they go with the best DE on the boards here either.

78.) New Orleans – S David Bruton, Notre Dame
A need pick for sure. I'd love to see them get Nic Harris, who I think you have going way too low.

86.) New Orleans Saints (From Chi) – CB Brandon Underwood, Cincy
I must admit, I haven't see a lot of this guy so I'm going to agree because the pick fits a need. Don't be surprised if we go with a DT to buddy up with Ellis.

Great mock.

Sweet. I have been seeing you for a while pimping the trade down option for NO, and with my Bears badly needing a top pass rusher, the move made sense to me. Glad you like it

My blind guess is that Maclin is more likely to be picked by the Colts if the two were somehow on the board. Plus as you said, he would cement the return man position as well.

Indeed. Plus it seems like Indy likes having their receivers run great routes and be more quick than fast. I wouldn't call Harrison, Wayne or Gonzalez slow but none are really burners and Maclin would probably go right along with that given his return ability type quickness. It makes more sense now.

A+++ BB for KC's draft

I still beleive in the Golden Rule of Drafting Franchise signals callers. At this point you cannot legiamtely say Thigpen is the real deal hollyfield so drafting Bradford is the right answer.

Herman=BEAST

WR is a good call a number 2 WR is not bad esp with Mark B at number 2 for now. He is an injury liability and you cant ever have too many play makers!

Glad you like it! I know from experience that Bradley shouldn't really be trusted.....but even if he works out for ya, depth at WR could be used as well, so that pick makes sense from a couple fronts.

[BeerBaron]

28.) New England Patriots – CB Darius Butler, UConn
After finally going for a youth movement in their linebacking corps last year with Mayo, Crable and Guyton, the Pats address their lackluster and beaten up secondary here with Butler. When your starting guys like Deltha O’Neal and Lewis Sanders, you know you’ve got a problem…

I understand the secondary concerns, but we did also draft Wheatley in the second and when Bruschi retires we're going to be VERY thin at linebacker with some age/durability concerns from Vrabel/Thomas. I'd go with Brandon Spikes here. Butler isn't physical enough to be a good fit, even though as a UConn player I like him. Sintim, Everette are two other good options.

45.) New England Pats (from SD) – DE/OLB Cody Brown, UConn
With Vrabel and Thomas getting older, more help to the pass rush is just what the Pats need to keep their defense strong.

Again, we need secondary help but I don't think Brown would be a good pick. He's a bit raw as far as pass rushing goes and he doesn't have many moves. I have him in the third round or so and I think this represents a substantial reach. Mike Mickens is a better player, and if we had Spikes, Sintim, or Everette in the first, that would be amazing for the first two.

60.) New England Pats – ILB Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina
The Pats grab some more youth/depth for their defense as well as Teddy Bruschi’s future replacement here.

Honestly, this is a guy I could very easily see going undrafted. He has durability issues and he's also pretty slow. I would rather play a number of our young linebackers than Brinkley. I see Marcus Freeman as a much better linebacker.

92.) New England Pats – LB/S Nic Harris, Oklahoma
An incredibly versatile player who can help out that defense in a number of ways.

I actually like this pick, haha. Overall, it could use a lot of work but the effort is incredible. If I didn't just +rep you for helping in my mock draft, I would give you more here.

lol, alright thanks man. Looks like I got some need positions bolted down, but I may have scrambled them around a bit. Definitely things i'll keep in mind for my next mock.

Jesus H. Christ, let's make babies. You're dead-on about the guards and Loadholt. I'm a big believer in Andrews at RT, and you could also kick Herremans out to left tackle.

Herremans-Robinson-Jackson-MJG-Andrews.

Sexy.

For safety, either Moore or Mays would work. Personally, I'm a big Mays guy, but Moore is awesome too.

Mickens is another fine pick. I'm sure Lito is on the first plane out of town after the season, so a young NB would be nice.

Beckum is a good TE for this scheme. He's not a good blocker, but he just needs to catch the ball and get in the way of players during blocking.

Very cool. The Eagles were one of teams I was really questioning when I got done with my mock, so its relieving to hear i did some good, lol. The chance taken on Beckum I could see too since they just did it a year ago like I mentioned. He could be a real value that late if he gets healthy.

[BeerBaron]

decent cardinals draft, seems we are reaching on all 3 picks which is unlikely with Graves as our GM but they are all positions of need

Well, I was going a bit off of your sig so.....ya, lol

I was typing a 2 round mock draft.... was 3 picks away from finishing.... and my internet got unplugged some how :(

I say draft Demtrius Byrd in the 3rd, played with JaMarcus, has good size and speed.

Thats why I always type mine up in word and then copy/paste. CTRL + S ftw!

The skins draft is fine. It's a tough pick to make, as there's no player that will come in and be an instant starter. I'm impressed that you stated Mack at guard because that's more than likely the position he'd battling for.

Aye, thanks for the input. I think Mack will make a great interior lineman in the league, even if its not his natural center.

[BeerBaron]

Not so high on your Colts draft. Here is what I would change...

1st round- They are gonna target DT Sen'Derrick Marks, but if he isnt there, as you have in this scenario, they would go with WR Jeremy Macklin who is better than Hayword-Bay.

2nd round- Im not so high on Moali as others are. I think they will target either CB or OL in the 2nd and I like possibly Victor Harris in the 2nd for them. I would really like Asher Allen if he declares.

3rd round- There is no question on this one. If DT Roy Miller is there I REALLY want the Colts to take him. He can play both NT and UT spots for them.

Hmm...thanks for the input. I had seen some of Geo's comments around before, so I was using them as a basis, but its good to get another fan's perspective too.

that mock looks pretty darn good. I don't think Davis is gonna go higher than Jenkins, Malcolm's stock is sky high and he will run a between a 4.35 and 4.45 which I think will cement him as a higher pick.

Thank you sir, I'll keep in mind about Jenkins and Davis too. Just put a switcheroo on them where they go if you'd like, lol

loving the skins mock. id grade that out as an A.

Cool beans!

[BeerBaron]

I like Jason Smith but I think #12 is too high for him. I expect that we could trade down and still grab him but I'd prefer to get Hardy/Selvie and then Eben Britton in the 2nd as PF said.

12 is kind of high for him, but a good pick when not paying attention to where we're selecting. I do not want to go DE in round 1. Only way I see us taking a DE is if we move Jenkins back to DT (which I'm strongly against) and then we'd need a complete DE, not a guy like Selvie. I'd be fine with Britton in the second, though I'd like to grab Pettigrew if he's sitting there at our second rounder.

EDIT: Also what about the Favre pick. He's likely already played over 50% of the snaps so It'd be a third already.

Aye, good thoughts. I'm thinking Smith could pull a Chris Williams type rise from last year. He went from a 2nd-3rd round type to the middle of the first during the process.

and as for the Favre pick, I was going off of the draft pick trades Wikipedia had posted. not the greatest source I know, lol, but I'll try and remember it for next time

[BeerBaron]

Interesting and possible first rounder for the Titans. I think you have the positions right for the second and third rounders, but Louis Murphy and Morgan Trent that high makes me want to vomit. Good effort.

Good to hear I got teh positions at least, lol. Too early for me to figure out the best places for the prospects.....so I'll try and come up with better ones next time around

<3 mocks that avoid Chris Wells for cinci. I feel like we're in a bad position because we're going to have to high of a draft pick to get a center and there won't be a MLB worthy of the 1-2-3rd overall pick which we likely will get it.

All 3 rounds were pretty solid choices I suppose for cinci, but I hope to god we can win our way out of the top 3 picks :(

lol, I feel ya man. An OT is a wise spot to invest top 3 pick type money, so that may be a way to go regardless of real need. A defensinve player would be nice but like I said in there, it'll be hard to find one worthy of going that high...

[Sniper]

Very cool. The Eagles were one of teams I was really questioning when I got done with my mock, so its relieving to hear i did some good, lol. The chance taken on Beckum I could see too since they just did it a year ago like I mentioned. He could be a real value that late if he gets healthy.

Making picks for the Eagles is damn near impossible. They always think they're smarter than the rest of the league and will therefore ignore major needs because "well we saw something in this kid at position X where we're already set".

I blame that fat **** Andy Reid and that arrogant ************ Jeffrey Lurie.

[scottyboy]

giants first pick is awesome stylez. Sintim has been rising this year and we NEED an OLB. love the pick.

2nd round makes sense, bring in a young talented guy now to learn and perhaps take over for McKenzie in 2 or so years, and youth/talent/depth on the OL NEVER hurts.

Don't know much about Richard, but DT is a need, great work there as well.

and I love the fact someone gave us a RB, YAY! Ore is an intersting pick too. I liked him at VT, always thought he was very talented. I think we proved we don't care all too much about character concerns ala Manningham and Bradshaw, so it's sensible. Very excellent work my dear man.

[ViperVisor]

I hook you up with tightened up sig pic and you can't hook the 49ers
up with a top QB.
You have too much integrity.

[BeerBaron]

giants first pick is awesome stylez. Sintim has been rising this year and we NEED an OLB. love the pick.

2nd round makes sense, bring in a young talented guy now to learn and perhaps take over for McKenzie in 2 or so years, and youth/talent/depth on the OL NEVER hurts.

Don't know much about Richard, but DT is a need, great work there as well.

and I love the fact someone gave us a RB, YAY! Ore is an intersting pick too. I liked him at VT, always thought he was very talented. I think we proved we don't care all too much about character concerns ala Manningham and Bradshaw, so it's sensible. Very excellent work my dear man.

Those exact guys came to mind when I gave them Ore. Glad you liked it overall. I don't know a whole lot about a lot of the individual prospects either really, but I was looking at team needs and how Scott had them ranked to come up with some of the 2nd and 3rd rounders. If i can at least nail the positions this early on, I'll be happy.

I hook you up with tightened up sig pic and you can't hook the 49ers
up with a top QB.
You have too much integrity.

Ahh man.....It would be interesting if Sanchez came out too, but I'm just not sure. USC always has a chance at the National Title so he might be more inclined to stay once two other top prospects come out in Bradford and Stafford. (I suppose they have national title cracks too with their teams, but I think they've also proven a little more than Sanchez....i dunno.)

And I didn't think you'd be too thrilled with a Tebow or a Freeman that early on......pretty icky if you ask me.

Hope you liked it even without the QB though

[Vikes99ej]

**** Ryan Cook.

But I love the Vikings picks.

[BeerBaron]

**** Ryan Cook.

But I love the Vikings picks.

lol, Cook gets one more false start and the state of Minnesota may collapse in on itself with rage.

[Cigaro]

57.) Carolina Panthers – OT Eben Britton, Arizona
If he comes out, he might actually go much higher than this, but for now, he helps out the Panthers who surely won’t be able to keep each of Gross, Peppers and Gamble.

89.) Carolina Panthers – DE Pannel Eghoh, Stanford
Could help with the potential loss of Peppers and just some depth in general.



I honestly doubt we're going to let Peppers and Gross both go. It's more than likely that both will stay. And so I'm going to have to disagree with the picks in general.

Eben Britton, if as good as advertised, as I have yet to see him play, would be a good pick if we lost Gross. Egboh, however, wouldn't be if we lost Peppers. We already have a strongside end of the future in Charles Johnson, we need a pass rusher, which I'm sure isn't the strength of Egboh.

Saying we kept Gross and Peppers and lost Gamble here would be our likely draft day priorities;

1a. Guard
1b. Pass rushing defensive tackle
2. Cornerback
3. Wide Receiver
4. Quarterback

[BeerBaron]

I honestly doubt we're going to let Peppers and Gross both go. It's more than likely that both will stay. And so I'm going to have to disagree with the picks in general.

Eben Britton, if as good as advertised, as I have yet to see him play, would be a good pick if we lost Gross. Egboh, however, wouldn't be if we lost Peppers. We already have a strongside end of the future in Charles Johnson, we need a pass rusher, which I'm sure isn't the strength of Egboh.

Saying we kept Gross and Peppers and lost Gamble here would be our likely draft day priorities;

1a. Guard
1b. Pass rushing defensive tackle
2. Cornerback
3. Wide Receiver
4. Quarterback

Alright, well, I did a little research in the Panthers forum and I remember seeing a post where someone said they'd probably keep 2 out of the 3 of Gross, Peppers and Gamble. Peppers and Gamble were I believe the ones he said to keep....so I assumed that meant Gross was going buh-bye. I can try and find the post if you wish, but even in the event that Peppers is kept, some depth is going to be needed. You don't find many ready-to-start pass rushing DT's in the 3rd round...so I went with some depth at DE because right now, its still fairly possible that more than just Gross is lost if the allure of FA bucks draws Peppers or Gamble away.

[Smokey Joe]

The day Lovie and Jerry trade up is the day hell freezes over. I doubt there is any other GM in the league that values draft picks greater than Jerry.

Plus, I wouldn't trade up for Hardy. Orakpo, definitely, but not Hardy (or Johnson for that matter).

[BeerBaron]

The day Lovie and Jerry trade up is the day hell freezes over. I doubt there is any other GM in the league that values draft picks greater than Jerry.

Plus, I wouldn't trade up for Hardy. Orakpo, definitely, but not Hardy (or Johnson for that matter).

Yeah, I know.....thats why I called it a rare move.

But our pass rushing is ************* godawful. One of the most horrible efforts I've ever seen out of any unit in the entire time i've been watching football the past two weeks.

However, which freezes hell quicker:

Us trading up? or Us paying big bucks to a FA (Suggs)?

We need sooooo much help there.......

[Smokey Joe]

Yeah, I know.....thats why I called it a rare move.

But our pass rushing is ************* godawful. One of the most horrible efforts I've ever seen out of any unit in the entire time i've been watching football the past two weeks.

However, which freezes hell quicker:

Us trading up? or Us paying big bucks to a FA (Suggs)?

We need sooooo much help there.......
well, I'd just skip Hardy completely, I think he's got bust written all over him. As for Johnson, he hasn't a proven a damn thing. Orakpo is clearly the no. 1, but its also clear he's likely to go top 5-10.

I personally wouldn't mind going after someone like Philip Hunt or Larry English in round 3 or 4 to compete for the 3rd down pass rusher job with Anderson, Baldwin, and maybe some other decent DE we could bring in via FA. Perhaps finally with some competition, Anderson will show some new moves.

I also wouldn't mind adjusting our defensive scheme and turning the SAM into primarily a pass rushing linebacker like the Giants do. If we would do this, I would love to see us get Clay Matthews in perhaps the 4th round. Plus, Roach is decent and HH is over the hill, so SAM is bit of a need.

[BeerBaron]

well, I'd just skip Hardy completely, I think he's got bust written all over him. As for Johnson, he hasn't a proven a damn thing. Orakpo is clearly the no. 1, but its also clear he's likely to go top 5-10.

I personally wouldn't mind going after someone like Philip Hunt or Larry English in round 3 or 4 to compete for the 3rd down pass rusher job with Anderson, Baldwin, and maybe some other decent DE we could bring in via FA. Perhaps finally with some competition, Anderson will show some new moves.

I also wouldn't mind adjusting our defensive scheme and turning the SAM into primarily a pass rushing linebacker like the Giants do. If we would do this, I would love to see us get Clay Matthews in perhaps the 4th round. Plus, Roach is decent and HH is over the hill, so SAM is bit of a need.

Ah man....we need to do something. Simply changing up the scheme a little might help this season if our coaches would be willing. I think their 'defensive genius' hubris prevents that a little or something.......god its pathetic to watch our pass rush. I'm just getting sick of it........we need to do....something.

If we can fix it with a scheme change like you said, that'd be wonderful. We'd still probably need some new personnel but like you said, we could find guys int he 3rd/4th round range for that.

I just know that we need to do....something. Anything. When we can even take a breathe withing reach of Dan Orlovsky with that lousy Lions line or the statue Kerry Collins, we have a MAJOR problem to fix if we hope to be a playoff team this year or anytime int he future.

[ThePudge]

Bengals draft is a solid skeleton, though I could easily see it going other ways player-wise.

People keep giving Cedric Benson a hard time based on his status as one of the busts of the infamous 2005 Top 10. His last time out, against Jacksonville, he ran for over 100 yards. He has been a model citizen in the locker room and has tremendous chemistry with teammates. It's surprising really. The team plans to keep Benson in their long-term plans. It hurts to say he's been one of the few brighter spots for Cincinnati. His blocking hasn't been very good up the middle (Ghaiciuc) and he has been forced to run outside a bit too much. His 3.7 average would be 4.7 on a better team. He has played well and is a fresh face. It feels awkward typing these words, but the emergence of Benson has rendered Running Back a secondary or even tertiary need.

T.J. Houshmanzadeh is an unrestricted free agent, Stacy Andrews is an unrestricted free agent, but a long-term deal for Benson looks the most likely. If say, a change of pace back like LeSean McCoy or C.J. Spiller were unexpectedly available at the top of the second, there is a possibility, but reaching for a college workhorse back like Ringer there is unlikely. Running Back is beginning to look like more of a 4th Rd. type need rather than 1st/2nd Round.

As I said, that does feel awkward to type. Darry Beckwith doesn't seem to fit in Cincinnati either there, he just doesn't pass the eye test. Dhani Jones has been the team's defensive MVP this year (though Domata Peko could make his own case.) Jones, historically, has been mediocre so it's tough to see. However, he has been a great addition in Cincinnati's much maligned locker room. He is a veteran mentor on the young defense and is almost guaranteed another year in the starting lineup. I am partial to Dannell Ellerbe and I see him as the type of player that Marvin Lewis likes in the middle. His character issues bother me, especially because of his similarities to Odell Thurman, but with Jones as a mentor I have a bit more confidence. 3rd Round is the right area for a MLB, good work there, potentially 4th. Brandon Spikes at the top of the second works as well, as he fits and is a real Zimmer/Fitzgerald type LB. We could go all day on these thoughts, but Spikes in the 2nd and Ellerbe in the 4th fit best in terms of value. Middle Linebacker is a need, but it can wait for value seeing as any MLB will likely sit in 2009.

Oher works but I'm not convinced he's a Top 5 pick though we all have him pegged there. I am not pointing the finger at you, it just doesn't feel right. Levi Jones is only 29 and is bringing in big money, Andrew Whitworth can and has played Left Tackle, the team loves Anthony Collins. It's tough to project their pick there. Everything I told you makes it seem like they need nothing and are up and coming instead of down at 1-8.

I'll be honest, I don't see the Bengals having a need that would require a Top 5 pick in this draft. Center is their top need, Middle Linebacker, a change of pace RB, a pass-rushing DE, a nickelback... the Bengals could use all of them, but none of them require a Top 5 pick. It's a pick that will ruin mock drafts for the next five months.

Offensive Tackle may be the most likely at this point judging by the personnel available. Michael Johnson, though, is the player that fits the best and is the player that fits best into Marvin Lewis' ideas. The Bengals' 9 Sacks are 2nd worst in the NFL, five PLAYERS have more sacks. Antwan Odom is in Cincinnati for four more years, Robert Geathers is making big money. But in 2007 it was Jarvis Moss, in 2008 it was Derrick Harvey, in 2009 Michael Johnson?

A long, athletic Defensive End has been on the top of the Bengals wish list for years. Even with Odom in the fold the Bengals went after Derrick Harvey. The Broncos traded up in 07' to grab Jarvis Moss from the Bengals, the Jaguars in 08'. Michael Johnson could be next in line. Right now, Michael Johnson is a mid-late first round pick. With a strong finish in the next three games, a strong Senior Bowl, and impressive workouts Johnson could skyrocket. I expect this to happen to an extent and around draft day he'll be seen as 7th-15th pick or so. Still, he's exactly the type of player that catches Marvin Lewis' eye and with a trade back, it's a real possibility.

I'd like to see a Center in there, Jonathan Luigs or Eric Wood in the 3rd works. Max Unger's size & versatility make him the best fit, but he is unavilable here. Alex Mack in the 2nd would be the absolute perfect situation...

I'm not trying to bust your balls here, you did a nice job, I just wanted to both fill you in on a couple things and discuss a few ideas...

[Smokey Joe]

well, I think it's clear Tommie Harris isn't at 100% Hopefully by next year he will be, and then he'll return to the beast he once was. Having him being a stud again would greatly increase the pressure our Dline gets. Plus, Marcus Harrison is hopefully only going to get better.

[Paranoidmoonduck]

You know I love the Andre Smith pick, but I'm not sure I like the Jerry selection. Kelly hasn't really been all that bad this season (as Alan Faneca can probably tell you) and Jerry wouldn't bring anything that isn't already here. If Oakland takes a defensive tackle, it'll be to remove Terdell Sands from the starting rotation, so think big, strong, and good leverage. Moala or Raji would probably make more sense if you're sold on them going DT in the second round.

[thebow305]

I absolutely LOVE the first 2 picks for the Phins. The second two are pretty bad though. Bruce Johnson is an absolutely dreadful corner and that is coming from a HUGE Canes fan. Give us Smith or Dominique Johnson there instead. Also, I like Massoquoi, but I would MUCH rather have Byrd.

I know you said don't pay too much attention to the players, I just wanted to give my opinion of the picks. Nice work overally though on the 3 rounder!

[BeerBaron]

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That is a lot dude, thanks for the input. And yeah, the Bengals really are in a tough spot in the top 5 with needs that could be filled much later. Thats why I think OT makes the most sense. If your going to invest the immense money a top 5 selection gets in a position, you have to look at QB, LT, and the D-line. Not sure someone like Johnson should really be going top 5 overall though......so that leaves LT. It seems asinine to take a RT that early, but in this case, it might be best.

[BeerBaron]

well, I think it's clear Tommie Harris isn't at 100% Hopefully by next year he will be, and then he'll return to the beast he once was. Having him being a stud again would greatly increase the pressure our Dline gets. Plus, Marcus Harrison is hopefully only going to get better.

Agreed. Hopefully Tommie turns things around but in the last two games I saw, Idonije was clearly our best d-lineman. Not say much with how bad they've been looking, but its clear that Tommie hasn't been his disruptive self this eyar.

You know I love the Andre Smith pick, but I'm not sure I like the Jerry selection. Kelly hasn't really been all that bad this season (as Alan Faneca can probably tell you) and Jerry wouldn't bring anything that isn't already here. If Oakland takes a defensive tackle, it'll be to remove Terdell Sands from the starting rotation, so think big, strong, and good leverage. Moala or Raji would probably make more sense if you're sold on them going DT in the second round.

Alright dude. I'll keep that kind of stuff in mind for my next one. Thanks for the input.

I absolutely LOVE the first 2 picks for the Phins. The second two are pretty bad though. Bruce Johnson is an absolutely dreadful corner and that is coming from a HUGE Canes fan. Give us Smith or Dominique Johnson there instead. Also, I like Massoquoi, but I would MUCH rather have Byrd.

I know you said don't pay too much attention to the players, I just wanted to give my opinion of the picks. Nice work overally though on the 3 rounder!

Cool, glad you liked the first two at least. And glad to see I got close on the positions with the last two. Like I said, this is a little early for all but the most hardcore draftniks to really know about every prospect, so I'm always more worried about at least getting the positions of need. Thanks for the input.

[Spectre]

Solid Browns draft - you definitely have a handle on the dire need we have for multiple new linebackers.

[dunagan15]

Great Job Beer Baron.

Love the Falcons draft. A safety is definintly needed adn Im happy w/ Mays. We also got him very low in the draft, great value.

Round 2, Terrance Taylor. Have seen this guy play once and did a big write up on him and really liked the guy. Another great pick considering who all is available in your mock.

Third round, can't say I dont like the pick, Byrd has been a playmake and has pretty good size and could develop nicely. Overall solid.


For some other helpful opinion as a Falcons fan, OL depth is greatly needed. Maybe more than a DT, considering the DT class this yr is awful. Also, an upgrade at TE would be nice, so Gresham in round 1 would be good as well. In round 3, if he comes out Id like Hakeen Nicks from UNC.


Great job man + rep.

[Menardo75]

Hey thought I would give you a little more input on the Niners draft.

The Monroe pick is awesome OT is the biggest need on the team right now. Andre Smith is my top rated, but I would be happy with either of the top three, that being Andre Smith, Eugene Monroe, and Michael Oher. If those three are gone I would say the pick would probably be Orakpo since that need would be second on the list.

It is hard for me to not like the Harvin pick, since he would add a whole new wrinkle to the offense depending on how he is used. If Jason Hill, Josh Morgan, and even Dominique Zieglar continue to get more playing time and all improve Wr would become less of a need. So for now the pick is good, but depeing on how the young guys pan out that pick could get changed to a NT or DE/OLB.

Cantwell is a guy I really liked in the pre-season. He really has not done much this year though to get me excited about. The only senior QB I would want them to take a chance on is Bomar. Unless they have a shot at either Stafford, Sanchez, or Bradford I can't see them making a move for a Qb until the late mid-rounds. Grahm Harrell maybe. Thrid round pick though I think should be a safety for depth and also to push Goldson.

[diabsoule]

If that's how the draft pans out, give the Saints Taylor Mays in the first and Marcus Freeman in the 3rd.

[pete_norm]

lol, Cook gets one more false start and the state of Minnesota may collapse in on itself with rage.

If that's the case, get FEMA ready for Sunday at about 1:30 PM. Send them to the Minnessota boundary right now. They'll need them...


BTW. Nice mock for the Vikings.

[NGSeiler]

Your Rams draft started off well, but quickly went downhill in the second and third rounds. St. Louis has virtually no needs at running back and tight end - they like Antonio Pittman as a back-up and have Brian Leonard there as well, and at tight end, still have McMichael and Klopfenstein for the time being. Meanwhile their OL has been horrible for years now, making OL and specifically OT & C a priority, as is just about every position on defense - DT, LB, CB (which you addressed in Rd1), and SS.

[regoob2]

I would be ok with the trade up since Hardy is a beast and we could get an extra 3rd for Berrian but I dont like Green. He's a ZBS OG and I would prefer more of a run blocker. Green reminds me a bit of Beekman, I dont see a huge upgrade.

[BeerBaron]

Solid Browns draft - you definitely have a handle on the dire need we have for multiple new linebackers.

Cool, thanks for the input sir.

Great Job Beer Baron.

Love the Falcons draft. A safety is definintly needed adn Im happy w/ Mays. We also got him very low in the draft, great value.

Round 2, Terrance Taylor. Have seen this guy play once and did a big write up on him and really liked the guy. Another great pick considering who all is available in your mock.

Third round, can't say I dont like the pick, Byrd has been a playmake and has pretty good size and could develop nicely. Overall solid.


For some other helpful opinion as a Falcons fan, OL depth is greatly needed. Maybe more than a DT, considering the DT class this yr is awful. Also, an upgrade at TE would be nice, so Gresham in round 1 would be good as well. In round 3, if he comes out Id like Hakeen Nicks from UNC.


Great job man + rep.

Cool, thanks for the input man. Well put all, glad you liked the players too.

Hey thought I would give you a little more input on the Niners draft.

The Monroe pick is awesome OT is the biggest need on the team right now. Andre Smith is my top rated, but I would be happy with either of the top three, that being Andre Smith, Eugene Monroe, and Michael Oher. If those three are gone I would say the pick would probably be Orakpo since that need would be second on the list.

It is hard for me to not like the Harvin pick, since he would add a whole new wrinkle to the offense depending on how he is used. If Jason Hill, Josh Morgan, and even Dominique Zieglar continue to get more playing time and all improve Wr would become less of a need. So for now the pick is good, but depeing on how the young guys pan out that pick could get changed to a NT or DE/OLB.

Cantwell is a guy I really liked in the pre-season. He really has not done much this year though to get me excited about. The only senior QB I would want them to take a chance on is Bomar. Unless they have a shot at either Stafford, Sanchez, or Bradford I can't see them making a move for a Qb until the late mid-rounds. Grahm Harrell maybe. Thrid round pick though I think should be a safety for depth and also to push Goldson.

good input. Glad you liked the first two at least. What if going Cantwell were held off for a round perhaps? give you that safety you want right there.

[BeerBaron]

If that's how the draft pans out, give the Saints Taylor Mays in the first and Marcus Freeman in the 3rd.

Well....you don't really know whats going to be there in the 3rd, so switching like that kind of doesn't work. But I get our point at least. A lot of people want Mays if he falls like that, I might have to have him go a bit higher next time around.

If that's the case, get FEMA ready for Sunday at about 1:30 PM. Send them to the Minnessota boundary right now. They'll need them...


BTW. Nice mock for the Vikings.

haha, alright thanks man.

Your Rams draft started off well, but quickly went downhill in the second and third rounds. St. Louis has virtually no needs at running back and tight end - they like Antonio Pittman as a back-up and have Brian Leonard there as well, and at tight end, still have McMichael and Klopfenstein for the time being. Meanwhile their OL has been horrible for years now, making OL and specifically OT & C a priority, as is just about every position on defense - DT, LB, CB (which you addressed in Rd1), and SS.

Hmm i see. I know McMichael has been hurt this year and a lot of the TE's I had fall to the 2nd carried first round values, so I thought it might make sense there given that the quality of o-lineman starts going downhill. I'll keep it all in mind next time around.

[BeerBaron]

I would be ok with the trade up since Hardy is a beast and we could get an extra 3rd for Berrian but I dont like Green. He's a ZBS OG and I would prefer more of a run blocker. Green reminds me a bit of Beekman, I dont see a huge upgrade.

blegh. Can't please everyone, lol. And yeah, the 3rd rounder (which we had better ******* get for Berrian) makes up for it like you said. Prolly wouldn't have thought about the trade if we weren't likely to get that....

What other player would you prefer in the 2nd then? A lot of the o-line talent had started to go....

[rockio42]

First of all, props on three rounds because I know how stressful a multi-rounder at this point can be because not many people have been established past the early point of round 2 so good jobb

Ok onto the Rams draft

6 - Vontae Davis

ehhhhh, With Smith and Oher both gone (yes i just incinuate dthat the Rams should not take Monroe at this spot even if he is there) I don't hate it, but I rather have a guy in Malcolm Jenkins, sure Davis has more potential and so on but I don't want to risk taking a CB who is all workout number, so i would take Jenkins just because he has better on the field stats. On a side not I don't even know if CB should be the pick, I suggest fiddling around and looking at some other player (Aaron Curry, Rey Maualuga, or William Moore) and see how it works

38. Jermaine Gresham

AHHHH a CB in the first and a TE in the second, are you trying to kill me? (2006: 1st round - Tye Hill; 2nd round - Joe Klopfenstien) but all jokes aside I don't hate the pick and it's true even with McMichael we need a TE because Randy isn't all that great and is often injured. Also look at this point look at Max Unger, Mike Mickens (if we don' take Davis/Jenkins), or Brandon Spikes (if we don't take Curry or Maualuga).

70. Arain Foster

I don't like pick mainly because I don't like Foster but the explanation is damn true (Leonard is hurt again btw) but I would rather look at Courtney Green, Rhett Bomar (need a guy to follow up Bulger), Marcus Freeman (if we don't take Curry, Maualuga, or Spikes) or Alex Boone (because we NEED to take OL at least in the first three round, a better alternative would be in the first two

Once again great job and my comments are just something to think about

[Notredameleo]

Love the positions for the lions, the players in round 2-3 not so much, but good mock!! +rep

[OneToughGame]

I absolutely love the Seattle picks they are the exact players I want the Seahawks to get and I like that you see their needs especially at safety since Brian Russell is there :(

[jj45]

I like ur overall mock, I even can accept hardy to the bears but I think I am the only one we would really like to see mays in our secondary I think he will move up and since we aren't reciever unless crabtree and aren't grabing on of the top 3 tackles I think he will help our defense everyone says how our pass defense sucks because of our pass rush is lacking but I think it goes both ways look at the redskins a few years back they what people called a medicore pass rush but they had recievers scared to catch that ball. I know sean taylor forced that fear but look what they did the year before he pasted they got laron landry . Our best safety can hit like a brick I truely think when he is heathly he can rival bob sanders( they are very similar ) but imagine mays and brown they can help the pass rush out im fearful taking a end in the first because for every mario williams u get jarvis moss. I would rather have someone who can learn from a great safety. But I understand the hardy pick tho

[BeerBaron]

First of all, props on three rounds because I know how stressful a multi-rounder at this point can be because not many people have been established past the early point of round 2 so good jobb

Ok onto the Rams draft

6 - Vontae Davis

ehhhhh, With Smith and Oher both gone (yes i just incinuate dthat the Rams should not take Monroe at this spot even if he is there) I don't hate it, but I rather have a guy in Malcolm Jenkins, sure Davis has more potential and so on but I don't want to risk taking a CB who is all workout number, so i would take Jenkins just because he has better on the field stats. On a side not I don't even know if CB should be the pick, I suggest fiddling around and looking at some other player (Aaron Curry, Rey Maualuga, or William Moore) and see how it works

38. Jermaine Gresham

AHHHH a CB in the first and a TE in the second, are you trying to kill me? (2006: 1st round - Tye Hill; 2nd round - Joe Klopfenstien) but all jokes aside I don't hate the pick and it's true even with McMichael we need a TE because Randy isn't all that great and is often injured. Also look at this point look at Max Unger, Mike Mickens (if we don' take Davis/Jenkins), or Brandon Spikes (if we don't take Curry or Maualuga).

70. Arain Foster

I don't like pick mainly because I don't like Foster but the explanation is damn true (Leonard is hurt again btw) but I would rather look at Courtney Green, Rhett Bomar (need a guy to follow up Bulger), Marcus Freeman (if we don't take Curry, Maualuga, or Spikes) or Alex Boone (because we NEED to take OL at least in the first three round, a better alternative would be in the first two

Once again great job and my comments are just something to think about

Alright, cool. Well thanks for the input. Jenkins and Davis in my mind are really close at teh #1 corner spot and I can easily switch them around here imo. I'll definitely keep your suggestions for the other picks in mind as well too.

Love the positions for the lions, the players in round 2-3 not so much, but good mock!! +rep

lol, thanks. I'm glad I at least got the positions right which is more what I'm concerned about this early on anyway.

I absolutely love the Seattle picks they are the exact players I want the Seahawks to get and I like that you see their needs especially at safety since Brian Russell is there :(

Thanks for the input dude. Glad I was in the ballpark, lol

[BeerBaron]

I like ur overall mock, I even can accept hardy to the bears but I think I am the only one we would really like to see mays in our secondary I think he will move up and since we aren't reciever unless crabtree and aren't grabing on of the top 3 tackles I think he will help our defense everyone says how our pass defense sucks because of our pass rush is lacking but I think it goes both ways look at the redskins a few years back they what people called a medicore pass rush but they had recievers scared to catch that ball. I know sean taylor forced that fear but look what they did the year before he pasted they got laron landry . Our best safety can hit like a brick I truely think when he is heathly he can rival bob sanders( they are very similar ) but imagine mays and brown they can help the pass rush out im fearful taking a end in the first because for every mario williams u get jarvis moss. I would rather have someone who can learn from a great safety. But I understand the hardy pick tho

I can understand what your saying about the safeties but I think Payne has really looked good so far. Nothing spectacular but I think he's been a very good SS for our defense. I also think that Brown has been a bit rusty early on in the season but in recent games I liked what I saw from him. He's being used more near the line of scrimmage where he had great success earlier in this career.

But our pass rush really has been abysmal. Against the Titans...ok, they have a good line, fine. But the Lions the week before? Really? We need some big help there to make our style of defense work....in the Cover 2, we're supposed to pressure the QB so that he throws bad passes that our secondary can easily turn into picks. you lose the pass rush and suddenly it doesn't look like we can cover anybody....ugh....bad times.

[Menardo75]

good input. Glad you liked the first two at least. What if going Cantwell were held off for a round perhaps? give you that safety you want right there.

I would be fine with that if it were anywhere from 4-6. He has the talent and with a mid-rounder he would'nt be expected to play right away, and ge could sit and learn the system.

[PossumBoy9]

The Rams passing on Crabtree to allow Seattle to grab him would sure hurt.

[BeerBaron]

The Rams passing on Crabtree to allow Seattle to grab him would sure hurt.

I'm sure it would but that defense really needs help.....if you can't get the o-lineman that is needed badly too, i think it has to go defense, even if it means letting a real stud player go to seattle.

[regoob2]

blegh. Can't please everyone, lol. And yeah, the 3rd rounder (which we had better ******* get for Berrian) makes up for it like you said. Prolly wouldn't have thought about the trade if we weren't likely to get that....

What other player would you prefer in the 2nd then? A lot of the o-line talent had started to go....
Britton, Canfield and Boone Id prefer over him OL wise.

[BeerBaron]

Britton, Canfield and Boone Id prefer over him OL wise.

hmmm.....even that high in the 2nd? Britton I can see but i sort of forgot about him. Next time around he'll be gone before that. (I'm thinking if i coudl move him now, it'd be to the Rams earlier in the 2nd at least)

[Joker_232]

19.) Philadelphia Eagles – S William Moore, Missouri
Brian Dawkins has been a great safety for years, but he’s not getting any younger and it might be time to bring in a long term replacement. Moore is a big kid and can mix it up from a physical standpoint while also still being a playmaker in the secondary.


25.) Philadelphia Eagles (From Car) – OG Duke Robinson, Oklahoma
I’ve seen a number of mocks that are just torn to shreds when they give Loadholt to the Eagles. Well…how about his teammate Duke? I know its their tackles who need replaced, but I think that between Robinson, Gean-Gilles and Shaun Andrews, this team can fill both guard spots and at least one OT spot with some very big and very talented lineman.



51.) Philly Eagles – CB Mike Mickens, Cincy
Asante and Sheldon Brown work well as starters, but I bet they try and trade Lito if they get a good offer. Depth would be fantastic.




83.) Philly Eagles – TE Travis Beckham, Wisconsin
LJ Smith always seems to have one foot out the door and Brent Celek has looked good at times…Beckham is talented but hurt, and the Eagles took a flier on another talented but injured Wisconsin player last year….

.

absolutely love those picks. Love Moore and i think people are gonna kick theirselves when they pass on Beckum

[BeerBaron]

absolutely love those picks. Love Moore and i think people are gonna kick theirselves when they pass on Beckum

cool. like I said once earlier, the Eagles were a team i was feeling uneasy about the picks for but it looks like i've met some resounding success this time around. good to hear and thanks for hte input

[Zyro_1014]

cool. like I said once earlier, the Eagles were a team i was feeling uneasy about the picks for but it looks like i've met some resounding success this time around. good to hear and thanks for hte input

i think you did an awesome job with the Eagles picks. Moore could see some time right away, and hes also learning behind Dawkins who has been one of the best in league for years.

Beckum would be a steal there but i do believe a lot of teams are gonna pass on him due to his injury...but thats their loss. our gain

[PACKmanN]

Greg Hardy and Max Unger over the 2 guys you gave the Packers for the first and second round.

[BamaFalcon59]

I could definitely live with those Falcons picks.

Especially Taylor Mays.

[jCut]

I can't argue with the Denver draft, though I wish we could get a quality safety somewhere in the first three rounds. I love the James Davis pick.

[Bills2083]

Can Dannell Ellerbe be OLB?
Poz is our MLB, with Mitchell on the outside.

[BeerBaron]

Greg Hardy and Max Unger over the 2 guys you gave the Packers for the first and second round.

Duly noted. Thanks for the input.

I could definitely live with those Falcons picks.

Especially Taylor Mays.

Sweetness.

I can't argue with the Denver draft, though I wish we could get a quality safety somewhere in the first three rounds. I love the James Davis pick.

Cool. Ill try and work a safety in somewhere next time around. And I like the Davis pick too, lol. Last time Denver took a back that high was Portis right? And he worked out really well.....I know that system is supposed to be able to create great runners, but if you stick one in there who is pretty good to begin with, he should be all the better right?

Can Dannell Ellerbe be OLB?
Poz is our MLB, with Mitchell on the outside.

Ah, my mistake. I thought Crowell was your middle and Poz moved inside when he went down. I'll fix it up next time around. Thanks for the input.

[bspen4]

If Thigpen keeps playing well then there is no way the Chiefs can take a QB in the first round

[BeerBaron]

If Thigpen keeps playing well then there is no way the Chiefs can take a QB in the first round

see, thats why i wrote in there what i wrote in there. I also don't think he continues to play this way...

[foozball]

Yucky draft for the texans. We definitely dont need another WR with Andre Johnson, Kevin Walter, Andre Davis, and Jacoby Jones.

As for Beanie Wells, it's a good argument, but the Texans won't draft a RB in the 1st round with their draft strategy. Kubiak and Gibbs just don't believe in drafting RBs in round 1. There's a better chance they take Shonn Greene or Andre Brown a little later in the draft.

Yes we need a safety, but we dont need Courtney Greene. He's more of a strong safety. The Texans are in dire need of a ballhawk who can play centerfield.

We need a DE, FS, and C

Based on your draft rankings, I would say we go Hardy, Bruton, and Luigs

[BeerBaron]

Yucky draft for the texans. We definitely dont need another WR with Andre Johnson, Kevin Walter, Andre Davis, and Jacoby Jones.

As for Beanie Wells, it's a good argument, but the Texans won't draft a RB in the 1st round with their draft strategy. Kubiak and Gibbs just don't believe in drafting RBs in round 1. There's a better chance they take Shonn Greene or Andre Brown a little later in the draft.

Yes we need a safety, but we dont need Courtney Greene. He's more of a strong safety. The Texans are in dire need of a ballhawk who can play centerfield.

We need a DE, FS, and C

Based on your draft rankings, I would say we go Hardy, Bruton, and Luigs

Cool. Like I was saying about the Eagles, the Texans were another team I was struggling with. I guess with them, when in doubt, give them D-line in the first, lol. Seems to happen often enough....(Babin, Johnson, Williams, Okoye...) thanks for the input

[wicket]

TRADE: Saints trade first rounder (#14 overall) to the Bears for their first (#22 overall), their third (#86 overall) and a 5th rounder.
22.) New Orleans Saints (from Chicago) – LB Brian Cushing, USC
The Saints manage to trade down and still pick up a player that fills a great need for them. That defense still isn’t up to par with what Drew Brees can do on offense, and Cushing is a very talented player who will bring some strength to that defense.
pick and trade both work for me, I think Cushing is a better prospect than many give him credit for because the defense of usc is that good that it is harder than many places to get good numbers.
78.) New Orleans – S David Bruton, Notre Dame
A pick to address the Saints 2nd biggest area of need after taking Cushing in the first.

As a Notre Dame and Saints fan I'm really happy about the pick. Bruton is a game winner and game changer. He makes plays at the right time, has good coverage skills, hits hard, he really is a great prospect (underrated) in my mind and I've seen him play plenty of times. Besides that he'll be a nice guy for the defensive atmosphere as well.
86.) New Orleans Saints (From Chi) – CB Brandon Underwood, Cincy
Depth for their secondary which always seems to lose Mike McKenzie anymore
I haven't seen more than highlights from Cincy so I don't know how good this guy really is but from the things I've read about him and the situation he is in it seems like a fine pick.

Overall i really like the mock as a saints fan. good job

[BeerBaron]

pick and trade both work for me, I think Cushing is a better prospect than many give him credit for because the defense of usc is that good that it is harder than many places to get good numbers.

As a Notre Dame and Saints fan I'm really happy about the pick. Bruton is a game winner and game changer. He makes plays at the right time, has good coverage skills, hits hard, he really is a great prospect (underrated) in my mind and I've seen him play plenty of times. Besides that he'll be a nice guy for the defensive atmosphere as well.

I haven't seen more than highlights from Cincy so I don't know how good this guy really is but from the things I've read about him and the situation he is in it seems like a fine pick.

Overall i really like the mock as a saints fan. good job

good deal. Thanks for the comments.

[Monomach]

I have no problem sending a 3rd and 5th off to get Hardy, especially since it's looking like we'll get a third back from Berrian. Hardy is one of the three first-round DEs in this draft I could see working for our team (others are Orakpo and Johnson...well, and maybe Everette Brown).

That said, it's pretty unlikely to happen...and we'll probably have a top 15 pick without trading up.

[vidae]

I'm meh on the first pick but I love the Herman Johnson pick.

I would rather we address our pass rush (or lack thereof..) in the first with a guy like Orakpo or Hardy.

[BeerBaron]

I'm meh on the first pick but I love the Herman Johnson pick.

I would rather we address our pass rush (or lack thereof..) in the first with a guy like Orakpo or Hardy.

whats the rule.....don't pass on a franchise QB unless you have one? I guess we'll know in what is it.....6 more games if Thigpen is one, but for now, passing on a guy like Bradford in the top 5 would be a bad idea.

Remember last year when every Atlanta fan was swearing up and down that they wouldn't go QB, wanted Glenn Dorsey, Redman was their guy....how'd that go for em?

Glad you like Johnson at least.

[dbtb135]

15.) Tampa Bay Bucs – DT Sen’Derrick Marks, Auburn
Well, the defense the Bucs are sporting now certainly isn’t the elite unit of years past but giving a good coordinator like Monte Kiffin a talented DT like Marks will certainly help. It’s typically a bad thing when a guy like Chris Hovan still pays a prominent part in your defense…

Marks would be a godsend. We aren't really in the position to get him, but if we were to completely fall apart, he would be a great get.

But Hovan really isn't a bad player. He's a solid NT and a real find for our run defense which has been greatly improved since we got him. Also, Marks is the prototype Tampa 2 UT. Hovan plays NT. Marks wouldn't be replacing Hovan, he'd be playing alongside him.

47.) Tampa Bay Bucs – TE Brandon Pettigrew, Ok St
Pettigrew is very talented and falls due to some character concerns. He should provide and instant upgrade for a team that keeps Jeremy Stevens around…

48.) Buffalo Bills – TE Chase Coffman, Missouri
The Bills bring in a TE to give Trent Edwards another weapon moving forward.

Again, Stevens isn't really playing like crap. He's become a decent addition to the offense. Granted, he could be upgraded, it's not like he's playing like garbage. I think Coffman would be the preference of our offense though. We need Pettigrew's explosiveness more, but athletically Coffman isn't too far behind and he's a better blocker from what I've seen, and we do use that a lot. Solid pick either way.

79.) Tampa Bay – LB Marcus Freeman, Ohio State
Some depth and perhaps a long term plan in case Derrick Brooks should decide to hang it up.

We've got too much depth at LB right now, if anything. Brooks' replacement could be June for a while, or Hayes has been getting good reviews, or Black if he progresses down the line. I don't think we'll be investing more picks at LB, unless it's a late rounder to back-up Ruud. This pick would be better used at CB where Ronde is slowing at a ridiculous rate and Buchannon is a UFA after this season. Or possibly DE, where we are thin after Gaines and Greg White.

Very good overall.

[BeerBaron]

Marks would be a godsend. We aren't really in the position to get him, but if we were to completely fall apart, he would be a great get.

But Hovan really isn't a bad player. He's a solid NT and a real find for our run defense which has been greatly improved since we got him. Also, Marks is the prototype Tampa 2 UT. Hovan plays NT. Marks wouldn't be replacing Hovan, he'd be playing alongside him.



Again, Stevens isn't really playing like crap. He's become a decent addition to the offense. Granted, he could be upgraded, it's not like he's playing like garbage. I think Coffman would be the preference of our offense though. We need Pettigrew's explosiveness more, but athletically Coffman isn't too far behind and he's a better blocker from what I've seen, and we do use that a lot. Solid pick either way.



We've got too much depth at LB right now, if anything. Brooks' replacement could be June for a while, or Hayes has been getting good reviews, or Black if he progresses down the line. I don't think we'll be investing more picks at LB, unless it's a late rounder to back-up Ruud. This pick would be better used at CB where Ronde is slowing at a ridiculous rate and Buchannon is a UFA after this season. Or possibly DE, where we are thin after Gaines and Greg White.

Very good overall.

Cool yo. I'll keep your comments in mind, thanks

[georgiafan]

Great job with the falcons filling needs, I would take the draft today.

[BeerBaron]

Great job with the falcons filling needs, I would take the draft today.

Awesome. It seems like a lot of mock drafts I see struggle with the Falcons, so its good to know i hit it this time around

[giantsfan]

Again, Stevens isn't really playing like crap. He's become a decent addition to the offense. Granted, he could be upgraded, it's not like he's playing like garbage. I think Coffman would be the preference of our offense though. We need Pettigrew's explosiveness more, but athletically Coffman isn't too far behind and he's a better blocker from what I've seen, and we do use that a lot. Solid pick either way.

You seem to be mistaken about Pettigrew. He's a good athlete for his size true, and a strong pass catcher but he's also an exceptional blocking TE and really reminds me of Heath Miller.

[georgiafan]

Awesome. It seems like a lot of mock drafts I see struggle with the Falcons, so its good to know i hit it this time around

Here is my breakdown of the falcons needs for future refrence

CB - At the start of the season this was a major need since Brent Grimes was starting. Since that time Foxworth has moved into the starting role and done a nice job. Chevis Jackson has been getting more playing at the nickle spot and at worst should be depenable player. I'm not sold on Chris Houstin, but he still has some potential and is still young. Von Hutchins who was one of the big FA's signed will be back next year after being on IR the whole year.

S - Eric Coleman has been a solid starter, but Milloy is likely gone at the end of the year. There isn't any depth to speak about except for this years 3rd round pick Thomas Decoud. He hasn't got on the field alot so who knows what he is going to do

NT - As several other falcons fans have said the falcons need a NT not a UT. Babineux is a above average starter at UT and everyone expects him to get resigned to a long term deal. Grady Jackson starts at NT and he comes out on passing downs anyway. Grady is 35 so who knows if he will be back next year.

LB - Keith Brooking will likely be cut and most fans will tell you he is long past his prime. Stephen Nichols was drafted in the mid rounds two years ago and my guess he would start if Brooking is cut. Boley will probley be signed to a long term deal. A 2nd round pick was spent on Lofton and he looks like a star in the making. I expect the falcons to either sign or draft a LB just not in the first few rounds.

#2 WR - You would like to be able to resign Jenkins, but White's contract is up after next year. White will get about 10 million a year so they might not want to pay Jenkins big money to. I was hoping Laurent Robinson would step up, but he has been hurt and can't be counted on. Finneran is a possesion WR who is a good #5 WR to have on your team. Harry Douglas has his role which is the slot WR and return man. So if Jenkins leaves someone will be brought in to challenge Robinson for the #2 job.

TE - A lot of people have the falcons taking a TE early and that makes sense as it's a position that could use a upgrade. Ben Hartsock is a good blocker, but only has 3 catches on the year. Justin Pelle has been better then expected though he still isn't anything to get excited about. Thomas D said he would draft scheme specfic players and last year stuck with that. That tells me if a TE is drafted he must be able to block which knocks out half the people. Pettigrew has off the field problems so he is probley out.

DE - The key to BVG's defense is getting pressure with the front 4. John Abraham has had a fantastic year, but he is made of glass and could go down at any time. It's looking more and more like Jamal Anderson will be a bust. Chauncey Davis and Koy Bierman are decent backups just not long term answers to start. This might not be a need area now, but it could be the top need after the next season. A 5th DE was recently brought up to the 53 man roster which tells me they are worried about something.

OT - Sam Baker was considered a reach by alot of people with the amount the falcons gave up to get him. He looks like the LT of the future, but he has only played 5 games. So nobody knows for sure if he is a LT or RT. A upgrade could be hade over Tyson Clabo on the right side. Wayne Grady and Todd Wiener are past there prime.