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kwilk103
11-20-2008, 01:28 AM
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/nov/19/usfs-grothe-checking-nfl-draft-possibilities/


If Grothe is projected to be selected in the first four rounds, he said he "probably would go" to the NFL and not return for his senior season.

"I might as well [check]; it can't hurt anything," Grothe said. "If I was drafted by the third or fourth round, I would go."



dont think he will get picked that early

Zyro_1014
11-20-2008, 01:31 AM
Not setting his goals that high lol.

i think hes in a situation tho that he might as well get into the NFL as soon as he can and start learning early.

....kinda what i think tebow should do...but just my opinion

diabsoule
11-20-2008, 01:31 AM
He has horrid arm strength.

Menardo75
11-20-2008, 01:31 AM
Not as a QB he won't.

Not setting his goals that high lol.

i think hes in a situation tho that he might as well get into the NFL as soon as he can and start learning early.

....kinda what i think tebow should do...but just my opinion

I definitley agree with you on Tebow.

SuperKevin
11-20-2008, 01:34 AM
I think Grothe knows he has no chance at going top 4 rounds but is saying this simply to get his name out there on people's lips. It makes him seem like a more intriguing prospect if he claims he's considering declaring.

With that said given this senior class he might be drafted higher this year than he would next year. That shows how weak this class really is

ElectricEye
11-20-2008, 01:34 AM
Not sure he could get drafted there even if he stayed for his senior year. If he came out this year, he would be lucky to get drafted. It'll probably be the same next year...so yeah. Kinda pointless of him to even do.

Bruce Banner
11-20-2008, 01:37 AM
Bigger future NFL failure/CFL or AFL all-star.

Chase Daniel or Matt Grothe?

Zyro_1014
11-20-2008, 01:38 AM
Bigger future NFL failure/CFL or AFL all-star.

Chase Daniel or Matt Grothe?

i think Daniel would be unreal in the Arena league.

Menardo75
11-20-2008, 01:39 AM
Where would Groothe play in the pros if he was not a QB. WR?

SuperKevin
11-20-2008, 01:39 AM
Bigger future NFL failure/CFL or AFL all-star.

Chase Daniel or Matt Grothe?

Is it me or do all the AFL QBs come out of like the FCS and D2 though?

SuperKevin
11-20-2008, 01:40 AM
Where would Groothe play in the pros if he was not a QB. WR?

nowhere. He doesn't have the speed nor the raw athletic ability to make the switch in the pros.

Bruce Banner
11-20-2008, 01:41 AM
Is it me or do all the AFL QBs come out of like the FCS and D2 though?

You're probably right. I just figure both aren't skilled enough to even be third string QBs.

ElectricEye
11-20-2008, 01:42 AM
Where would Groothe play in the pros if he was not a QB. WR?

Nowhere near capable of handling the position athletically. I don't think he'll get a chance in the NFL. I really hate to take such a negative stance on a guy...but he's terrible. He's a good enough athlete and tough enough to run the ball a little in college, but his actual abilities as a quarterback are quite poor. He's left without a position. No real use for him at the next level.

Menardo75
11-20-2008, 01:43 AM
Safety sounds pretty good.

Zyro_1014
11-20-2008, 01:44 AM
Safety sounds pretty good.

that fool would get jacked up my friend. it takes some freaky people to play safety these days

Bruce Banner
11-20-2008, 01:44 AM
Well, Juice Williams could play DE or a 3-4 OLB. ;)

ElectricEye
11-20-2008, 01:45 AM
Not athletic enough to play there either. How many 5'10 205 4.7 safeties with no experience playing the position do you see running around? He plays really tough and with a lot of effort...but that's pretty much all he has going for him.

Menardo75
11-20-2008, 01:45 AM
that fool would get jacked up my friend. it takes some freaky people to play safety these days

Have you seen him run. Thats too bad there really are no spots for him huh. How about Cody Pickett type deal play special teams and backup QB.

SuperKevin
11-20-2008, 01:45 AM
Safety sounds pretty good.

He doesn't have the instincts. It's really hard for a player to change positions with no experience at the highest level of competition. Factor in that he's really only a slightly above average athlete at the college level and you have no chance of converting him to another position

Zyro_1014
11-20-2008, 01:45 AM
Well, Juice Williams could play DE or a 3-4 OLB. ;)

yeah or ILB....Rey Rey gave him some notes in that Rose Bowl last year lol

SuperKevin
11-20-2008, 01:46 AM
Have you seen him run.

It's one thing for him to run over a 180 lb 20 year old sophomore. It's a whole another thing for him to try to run over a 230 lb NFL RB

ElectricEye
11-20-2008, 01:47 AM
It wouldn't even be worth it. I mean, I hate to just tear into the guy, but there's superior athletes that have actual experience at the position who won't get a shot.

Bruce Banner
11-20-2008, 01:47 AM
Supposedly Jake Locker could play safety at a high level.

but that is for another thread.

ElectricEye
11-20-2008, 01:48 AM
Supposedly Jake Locker could play safety at a high level.

but that is for another thread.

Jake Locker is about ten times the athletic specimen that Grothe is...and I have a hard time even seeing him doing it. You're right though. For another thread.

Zyro_1014
11-20-2008, 01:48 AM
Supposedly Jake Locker could play safety at a high level.

but that is for another thread.

thats very true, also turned down a couple mill for a fastball that got up to 95. i played against him....ridiculous.

SuperKevin
11-20-2008, 01:48 AM
Supposedly Jake Locker could play safety at a high level.

but that is for another thread.

FWIW the guy was a high level safety prospect in high school in addition to being a QB.

Menardo75
11-20-2008, 01:48 AM
Gunner it's settled. :)

Bruce Banner
11-20-2008, 01:51 AM
I obviously wasn't comparing Locker to Grothe, I was just sayin'.

Carry on.

Zyro_1014
11-20-2008, 01:52 AM
Gunner it's settled. :)

oh wow...weve gotten to this? lol

Menardo75
11-20-2008, 01:52 AM
Follow Cody Picketts great example.

Zyro_1014
11-20-2008, 01:53 AM
Follow Cody Picketts great example.

Pickett!? no way! some Idaho pride! lol

Menardo75
11-20-2008, 01:54 AM
Pickett!? no way! some Idaho pride! lol

Thats right brotha!

captainjack27
11-20-2008, 02:29 AM
Have you seen him run. Thats too bad there really are no spots for him huh. How about Cody Pickett type deal play special teams and backup QB.

No way he'll make it as a safety...no way. Maybe a Cody Pickett deal...but ehhhhh.

djp
11-20-2008, 03:49 AM
Grothe might be the worst pro prospect in college football that's a good college player.

He literally has zero skills that translate to the NFL. He's just lucky they play in the Big East.

Ozzy
11-20-2008, 08:08 AM
Like most others have said, it is a joke to think Grothe would be drafted, much less drafted that high. Again, like others have said his throwing arm is pathetic.

DeathbyStat
11-20-2008, 08:20 AM
5-7th round if drafted at all..dude should just stay

ChezPower4
11-20-2008, 08:57 AM
As a quarterback if your not going to be a top 10 ten pick, I think your decision is a no brainer... you go back to school for another year and get better

Mr. Offseason
11-20-2008, 01:42 PM
Not setting his goals that high lol.

i think hes in a situation tho that he might as well get into the NFL as soon as he can and start learning early.

....kinda what i think tebow should do...but just my opinion

i think that makes some sense for tebow but he has some skills that might translate to the nfl. i really dont see anything grothe has that projects well to the nfl. average height, above average athleticism, piss-poor arm strength, average accuracy... i think hes bound for the CFL/Arena league to be honest.

i think Daniel would be unreal in the Arena league.

jeez me too. i mean thats not what he would want to hear right now but i definately think he could tear it up there. i think some of the spread offense qbs would be fantastic in that league.

Grothe might be the worst pro prospect in college football that's a good college player.

He literally has zero skills that translate to the NFL. He's just lucky they play in the Big East.

it sounds harsh but it might be true. and i have to agree with you about having so little talent that projects to the NFL. its funny how that happens sometimes.

Canadian_kid16
11-20-2008, 05:16 PM
Grothe might be the worst pro prospect in college football that's a good college player.

He literally has zero skills that translate to the NFL. He's just lucky they play in the Big East.

Matt Grothe isn't a good college player. At least not this season he hasn't been. He has flashes, but he's way too inconsistent

Tampa 2 4 life
11-20-2008, 05:23 PM
Leave you *******, we all hate you anyway. You're like Brett Favre without the good.

Smokey Joe
11-20-2008, 07:05 PM
He'd be stupid to leave. He is receiving a free education and is probably a bit of a celebrity around the school. The amount of fun he'd have trying to sign with some NFL team after the draft is no where the amount he'd have with another year of college.

CashmoneyDrew
11-20-2008, 07:58 PM
I think I've got a better shot at being drafted than Matt Grothe.

bigsargefc
11-21-2008, 05:40 AM
Bigger future NFL failure/CFL or AFL all-star.

Chase Daniel or Matt Grothe?

Daniel will be the bigger failure. He's more hyped, and Grothe has a better arm and better mobility.

SuperKevin
11-21-2008, 02:55 PM
Daniel will be the bigger failure. He's more hyped, and Grothe has a better arm and better mobility.

Grothe's arm is better than nobody

Mr. Offseason
11-21-2008, 03:06 PM
Daniel will be the bigger failure. He's more hyped, and Grothe has a better arm and better mobility.

i disagree completely. daniel will be better in the AFL or something, but he is not hyped up as a NFL prospect. he is a 7th rounder if that, so his expectations in the NFL are not high.

the same can probably be said for grothe to be honest.

ElectricEye
11-21-2008, 03:10 PM
Except the expectations are even lower for Grothe.

Daniel has the type of game that really translates well to the CFL IMO. I think he'll get some time with the big boys first, but that's probably where he'll end up eventually and he should be dominant once he gets there.

....Grothe will probably end up outside of football.

josh07039
11-21-2008, 10:14 PM
Grothe's arm is better than nobody
He admits he can't even throw fifty yards even if he tries to gun it. Also even short passes of 10-15 yards have no zip. He would get picked every single play in the pros.

gameplaya2435
11-22-2008, 10:13 AM
I think I've got a better shot at being drafted than Matt Grothe.

Andy Reid would probably draft you 3rd-4th Round to become our Fullback!