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jkb528
11-30-2008, 10:13 PM
Who are your favorite players that were good at some point, but eventually fell off the face of the planet for one reason or another?

I'd say Domanick Davis (aka Domanick Williams). The guy is actually the Texans all-time leading rusher. Also, add Anthony "A-Train" Thomas, and David Boston to the list. Boston actually signed with the Argos this season, but had surgery for a stress fracture after the first game.

http://www.femmefan.com/site/images/lookerspics/lookers6/DavidBoston.jpg

The Unseen
11-30-2008, 10:14 PM
oh yeah, I forgot about Domanick Davis...

yo123
11-30-2008, 10:14 PM
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Matthew Hatchette

Bruce Banner
11-30-2008, 10:16 PM
King

http://stillfootball.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/king1.jpg

Twiddler
11-30-2008, 10:18 PM
Oh man, forgot about David Boston. Another one that I remember is Oronde Gadsden. I just remember reading an ESPN article about him and something about his hands being really soft from washing a lot of dishes. Wow, talk about random.

jkb528
11-30-2008, 10:18 PM
Shaun King doesn't count, he's on ESPN!

Pokeys
11-30-2008, 10:20 PM
Derrick Ross.... Troy Hambrick, a couple of legendary cowboys.

yo123
11-30-2008, 10:23 PM
Leroy Hoard

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/images/football/nfl/players/817.jpg


If you need 3 yards he can get you 3. If you need 10 yards he can get you 3.

Bruce Banner
11-30-2008, 10:26 PM
Not really a favorite.

http://www.mikedesimone.com/mpix98/akdf2.jpg
http://images.townnews.com/bgdailynews.com/content/articles/2007/11/20/sports/sports7.jpg

PACKmanN
11-30-2008, 10:27 PM
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tjsunstein
11-30-2008, 10:27 PM
I dont know if he dissapeared but Javon Walker. I loved him in Green Bay.

tjsunstein
11-30-2008, 10:29 PM
Samkon Gado
Vonnie Holliday

Hawk
11-30-2008, 10:42 PM
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Matthew Hatchette


Currently, Matthew lives in Los Angeles and has a promising acting career. He has been in several films. Recently he released "The Take" staring John Leguizamo, Rosie Perez, & Tyrese Gibson, which he executive produced and appears in, under his film production company Hatchet Films.per Wikipedia

I vaguely remember him on the Vikings. Lol he's on IMDB with some glamour shots.

TitanHope
11-30-2008, 10:42 PM
Vonnie Holiday

I think Vonnie Holiday is playing for Arizona...

GB12
11-30-2008, 10:44 PM
Leroy Hoard

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/images/football/nfl/players/817.jpg


If you need 3 yards he can get you 3. If you need 10 yards he can get you 3.
Wow that is a great line.


Samkon Gado
Eww. At the game today I saw a guy wearing a Gado jersey. I laughed my ass off.

the_legend_killer
11-30-2008, 11:01 PM
Jarious Jackson

tjsunstein
11-30-2008, 11:05 PM
I think Vonnie Holiday is playing for Arizona...
haha that's news to me. I think he was in KC last time I heard his name.

Eww. At the game today I saw a guy wearing a Gado jersey. I laughed my ass off.
He was so clutch for us that one year.

holt_bruce81
11-30-2008, 11:07 PM
Peerless Price

Not a favorite, his name just popped into my head when I read this thread......

MetSox17
11-30-2008, 11:17 PM
Derrick Ross.... Troy Hambrick, a couple of legendary cowboys.

Derek Ross was the first name that popped to my head when i read the title of the thread. He played awesome his rookie year, then fell off the map.

Woody Dantzler.
Antonio Bryant.

GB12
11-30-2008, 11:19 PM
He was so clutch for us that one year.
I don't think clutch is the right word. He was a nice little surprise with a great story, that's all.

Pokeys
11-30-2008, 11:19 PM
Ken Yon Rambo.... Norman Hand... Quincy Carter... Clint Stoerner! Anthony Fasano. Mario Edwards.

AllanO444
11-30-2008, 11:20 PM
Amos Zereoue

First name I thought of...

the_legend_killer
11-30-2008, 11:20 PM
He was so clutch for us that one year.

Wasn't that the year the Pack went 4-12?

619
11-30-2008, 11:21 PM
Let's just call this the ex-NFL / CFL player appreciation thread.

Vox Populi
11-30-2008, 11:24 PM
Vonnie Holliday has been playing in Miami as a starter the past couple years. Surprised you guys don't know that... as for Ken Yon Rambo, he was the CFL leader in receiving yards this year on the Calgary Stampeders (team that won the Grey Cup)

tjsunstein
11-30-2008, 11:41 PM
I don't think clutch is the right word. He was a nice little surprise with a great story, that's all.
Clutch. Definitely. lol. I agree with you though. I forgot the little sarcasm in the post.

Wasn't that the year the Pack went 4-12?
Damn you for catching on.

iBoldin
12-01-2008, 12:19 AM
Jarious Jackson? Rockin' the CFL right now. He's done surprisingly well, absolute rocket for an arm.

Menardo75
12-01-2008, 12:24 AM
Rod Smart "He hate me" laughs at all of your favorites.

Zyro_1014
12-01-2008, 12:28 AM
Amos Zereoue

First name I thought of...

oh wow! totally fogot about him, i was always a fan of his too.

tjsunstein
12-01-2008, 12:28 AM
Rod Smart "He hate me" laughs at all of your favorites.

XFL represent.

MetSox17
12-01-2008, 12:28 AM
Rod Smart "He hate me" laughs at all of your favorites.

"7 awareness points separate me and the living embodiment of the perfect oxymoron".

- Ethan Albright

PoopSandwich
12-01-2008, 12:31 AM
Ben *** was a favorite of mine just because when I was a kid I thought it was a hilarious last name.

Also, can't forget Lee Suggs!

Menardo75
12-01-2008, 12:34 AM
Cody Pickett.

locseti
12-01-2008, 12:44 AM
William Green. I thought he was gonna be a beast.

diabsoule
12-01-2008, 12:45 AM
Chris Fuamatu-Ma'afala

MetSox17
12-01-2008, 12:50 AM
William Green. I thought he was gonna be a beast.

Poor Cleveland. Two promising young guys close to each other as far as age (Suggs), and neither of them panned out.

fenikz
12-01-2008, 01:02 AM
Kwame Lassiter
David Boston
Fred Wakefield

YAYareaRB
12-01-2008, 01:11 AM
Robert Smith

http://espn.go.com/media/nfl/2000/0110/photo/a_robert.jpg

nobodyinparticular
12-01-2008, 01:17 AM
Some of these are really good--Troy Hambrick, Amos Zereoue, William Green, A-Train, Domanick Davis is one that I thought of earlier today (ironic that he was the first guy mentioned).

A few others--Cade McNown, Chad Hutchinson, Jon Ritchie (miss that guy...), Deltha O'Neal, Tory James, Reuben Droughns, Brett Favre...

MetSox17
12-01-2008, 01:29 AM
Mr. Whizzinator, AKA Onterrio Smith

Vox Populi
12-01-2008, 01:34 AM
Nice one there NIP

trkaline
12-01-2008, 01:42 AM
Ladanian Tomlinson....

nobodyinparticular
12-01-2008, 01:51 AM
Nice one there NIP

I know that last one was really obscure, but I just miss hearing about him so much...

Turtlepower
12-01-2008, 01:53 AM
Kareem Abdul-Jabar

nobodyinparticular
12-01-2008, 02:36 AM
Remember when Eddie Drummond was the "better" version of Dante Hall? Or when Jerome Mathis was the "better" version of Eddie Drummond? Yeah. All 3 of those guys fell of the face of the earth. (I know that Hall is with the Rams and Drummond is somewhere (Steelers?)... Mathis is just out of sight though... Justin Miller got similar props from ESPN--he's with the Raiders now, but he's nowhere near the threat that he was that one year. So many of these return guys are like that--Hall probably had the best longevity, but that was, what? 3 years? 4 years that he was feared?

That's partially why I'm not too hot into the Devin Hester and Ted Ginn Jr. return-only guys because they'll likely come down to earth (or fall off the face of it) after a couple years. Guys like Hester and Ginn need to find a place outside of special teams if they want a prolonged career in the NFL.

D-Unit
12-01-2008, 02:44 AM
I was a huge Chad Jackson fan.

DMWSackMachine
12-01-2008, 02:46 AM
Great topic. Gonna go real old school on this one:

Gaston Green, RB, Denver:
Had a very nice year for the Broncos back in the early 90s. As my Boys were just climbing back up from the cellar at the time, I had sort of been watching other teams a lot and picked up on a few favs. I was a pseudo Bronco fan at the time because I loved Elway. Anyhow, the guy tore it up for a stretch, everyone thought they had found their RB of the future and then like that!...he's gone.

Reggie Cobb, RB Tampa Bay:
Little bit of the same story, but this time my interest stemmed from an irrational premonition that the guy was going to be great, leading me to start collecting his football cards. Still have them to this day....two whole pages of Reggie frickin Cobb.

Germane Crowell, WR, Detroit:
Dude had one HUGE season for the Lions, causing my friend, who is like a Lion-fan-in-hiding to go out and buy his jersey....don't know what happened to him, but he was out of the league before long.

Tim Harris, DE, GB/SF:
This guy came on the scene during the heated SF/Dal rivalry of the early 90s. Got traded from GB to SF for some reason that I can't remember, but I think he was a headcase of some sort. He had one HUUUUUUGEEEEEE season for the Niners, I think he might have even led the league in sacks. He used to do this pistol dance after every sack he got. My bro--huge Niner fan--used to rave about him being their Reggie White. Lmao. Never had another season like it, and I think he even got cut/traded within a year or two.

Barry Foster, RB, Pitt:
The ultimate one year wonder. I'm sure all Cowboy and Steeler fans remember the magical 1992 race for the rushing crown. It came down to the last week of the season, with Emmitt narrowly edging out Barry for the title. I still (and probably always will) have the exact numbers committed to memory. Emmitt finished with 1713, while Foster ended with 1690. This led to all of the ill-fated "guess the Lions don't even have the best Barry in the league" jokes from some quarters. In hindsight? Not so much.

Bobby Humphrey, RB, Denver:
I promise its the last Bronco RB on my list. The dude was awesome for two consecutive years. 88 and 89, iirc, but it could have been 89 and 90. Either way, everyone thought he was going to be a great one, and he inexplicably fell apart. Still crushing to the Bronco fans who went through it.

Pat Swilling, LB, NO:
Might not deserve to be on this list, but was an unstoppable force coming off the edge in the old Saint 3-4 defense. The guy was DeMarcus Ware before there was a DeMarcus Ware. To be fair, he had several unbelievable seasons before getting traded to Detroit. And since we all know that Detroit is where all good players go to die......


I could go on all day, but these are the first that came to mind. Great stuff so far, btw, to everyone.

nobodyinparticular
12-01-2008, 02:47 AM
I was a huge Chad Jackson fan.

I remember. ;)

nobodyinparticular
12-01-2008, 02:53 AM
Great topic. Gonna go real old school on this one:

Gaston Green, RB, Denver:
Had a very nice year for the Broncos back in the early 90s. As my Boys were just climbing back up from the cellar at the time, I had sort of been watching other teams a lot and picked up on a few favs. I was a pseudo Bronco fan at the time because I loved Elway. Anyhow, the guy tore it up for a stretch, everyone thought they had found their RB of the future and then like that!...he's gone.

Reggie Cobb, RB Tampa Bay:
Little bit of the same story, but this time my interest stemmed from an irrational premonition that the guy was going to be great, leading me to start collecting his football cards. Still have them to this day....two whole pages of Reggie frickin Cobb.

Germane Crowell, WR, Detroit:
Dude had one HUGE season for the Lions, causing my friend, who is like a Lion-fan-in-hiding to go out and buy his jersey....don't know what happened to him, but he was out of the league before long.

Tim Harris, DE, GB/SF:
This guy came on the scene during the heated SF/Dal rivalry of the early 90s. Got traded from GB to SF for some reason that I can't remember, but I think he was a headcase of some sort. He had one HUUUUUUGEEEEEE season for the Niners, I think he might have even led the league in sacks. He used to do this pistol dance after every sack he got. My bro--huge Niner fan--used to rave about him being their Reggie White. Lmao. Never had another season like it, and I think he even got cut/traded within a year or two.

Barry Foster, RB, Pitt:
The ultimate one year wonder. I'm sure all Cowboy and Steeler fans remember the magical 1992 race for the rushing crown. It came down to the last week of the season, with Emmitt narrowly edging out Barry for the title. I still (and probably always will) have the exact numbers committed to memory. Emmitt finished with 1713, while Foster ended with 1690. This led to all of the ill-fated "guess the Lions don't even have the best Barry in the league" jokes from some quarters. In hindsight? Not so much.

Bobby Humphrey, RB, Denver:
I promise its the last Bronco RB on my list. The dude was awesome for two consecutive years. 88 and 89, iirc, but it could have been 89 and 90. Either way, everyone thought he was going to be a great one, and he inexplicably fell apart. Still crushing to the Bronco fans who went through it.

Pat Swilling, LB, NO:
Might not deserve to be on this list, but was an unstoppable force coming off the edge in the old Saint 3-4 defense. The guy was DeMarcus Ware before there was a DeMarcus Ware. To be fair, he had several unbelievable seasons before getting traded to Detroit. And since we all know that Detroit is where all good players go to die......


I could go on all day, but these are the first that came to mind. Great stuff so far, btw, to everyone.

I remember most of these guys. Cobb, Foster, Harris and of course Swilling for sure. Swilling came back from the dead (also known as two years in Detroit) and put up 13 sacks in '95 with the Raiders. After that, he had 8 more sacks from '96-'98. But I certainly remember that good year with the Raiders.

Menardo75
12-01-2008, 02:57 AM
K-jana Carter.

DMWSackMachine
12-01-2008, 03:14 AM
Swilling played for the Raiders? Wow...didn't know that. Seems like I would have known about that one....wtf? He was unbelievable. That LB corps of the Saints was as good as I have ever seen. Him, Sam Mills, Ricky Jackson and Vaughn Johnson. Whoah. Those four guys carried that entire team to the playoffs one year. They were, literally, mediocre or worse at every other position on the team and they still made the playoffs. And you never hear about them. Its amazing how stories like this get lost in the flow of time. Sad.

Makes you wonder which players/units/teams from today's game are going to be shafted by history.

niel89
12-01-2008, 03:46 AM
Clarence Moore. His only redeeming quality is that he is 6'6". Some times I fire up an old game of madden just to throw him jump balls. He doesnt catch them in the game either.

here is clarence moore getting out jumped by champ in the endzone.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/06yC4kc2kHeux/340x.jpg
http://www.pe.com/imagesdaily/2006/10-10/ravens_broncos_football_300.jpg

kalbears13
12-01-2008, 03:47 AM
Soon to be Troy Smith.

locseti
12-01-2008, 03:48 AM
Swillinnnggg peep the sig, he was decent in Detroit though, he didn't really fall off like a lot of these guys. Speaking of Tampa Bay though, who remembers Eric Rhett? Dude was a hog. he kinda makes this list.

Bruce Banner
12-01-2008, 03:51 AM
Swillinnnggg peep the sig, he was decent in Detroit though, he didn't really fall off like a lot of these guys. Speaking of Tampa Bay though, who remembers Eric Rhett? Dude was a hog. he kinda makes this list.

HAHA, Eric Rhett!

The Unseen
12-01-2008, 08:28 AM
Chris Fuamatu-Ma'afala

a-freakin'-men.

Gay Ork Wang
12-01-2008, 08:30 AM
Derek anderson

The Unseen
12-01-2008, 08:59 AM
Also, Tom Brady

tjsunstein
12-01-2008, 09:03 AM
Eric Crouch
Ryan Leaf
Jason White

Edit: I lied, I never like Ryan Leaf. Therefore, he should be banished from this post.

rockio42
12-01-2008, 09:12 AM
Demetrius Williams had a great rookie year with the Ravens in like 2006 after being a 5th round pick but hasnt done much since

BeerBaron
12-01-2008, 09:57 AM
Rosevelt Colvin...He was Urlacher's Briggs before Urlacher had Briggs, then he went to the Pats, seemed to be hurt all the time, and now he's disappeared entirely.

Warrick Holdman was another one. That looked to be a hell of a linebacker corps but now 2 have vanished completely....

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-1447619.html

619
12-01-2008, 10:41 AM
Some of these are really good--Troy Hambrick, Amos Zereoue, William Green, A-Train, Domanick Davis is one that I thought of earlier today (ironic that he was the first guy mentioned).

A few others--Cade McNown, Chad Hutchinson, Jon Ritchie (miss that guy...), Deltha O'Neal, Tory James, Reuben Droughns, Brett Favre...

Damn, he's one of the first Raiders to come to mind .. also Zack Crockett, James Jett, Charlie Garner, Barret Robbins, John Parrella, Eric Allen, Doug Jolley, Phillip Buchanan, Napolean Harris, etc, etc .. haha

cdub11
12-01-2008, 11:17 AM
Darnell Autry
Rashaan Salaam
Peter Warrick

Maybe Next Year Millen2
12-01-2008, 11:38 AM
The Lions pre Millen

sbh15
12-01-2008, 11:40 AM
Jason Gesser from WSU. If only he were around... WSU might be in the glory days where USC had legitimate competition in the Pac-10.

Dam8610
12-01-2008, 12:20 PM
Chris Fuamatu-Ma'afala

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

I was looking for this one before I posted it, not really a favorite player (no Steeler ever will be), I just really enjoyed the name, kind of like former Rams and current Chargers TE Brandon Manumaleuna.

bigbluedefense
12-01-2008, 12:26 PM
I remember Kameron Wimbley.

bored of education
12-01-2008, 12:27 PM
Olandis Gary and any other solid Denver RB :(

BeerBaron
12-01-2008, 12:29 PM
Olandis Gary and any other solid Denver RB :(

Gary went to Detroit.......and proved why Denver RB's are Denver RB's...

umphrey
12-01-2008, 01:07 PM
Ron Dayne, and then he went to the NFL :(

Menardo75
12-01-2008, 01:42 PM
Marion Butts I miss that guy.

NY+Giants=NYG
12-01-2008, 01:45 PM
I will ignore the favorite part. But I wonder where Barrett Green, Carlos Emmons, and Chad Morton are. Where is Will Demps?

portermvp84
12-01-2008, 01:46 PM
charlie garner

BeerBaron
12-01-2008, 01:48 PM
I will ignore the favorite part. But I wonder where Barrett Green, Carlos Emmons, and Chad Morton are. Where is Will Demps?

I actually think that he's still starting for the Texans. Was a pro bowl alternate like just last year actually....

Damix
12-01-2008, 01:56 PM
Willie Ponder
EJ Underwood

jkpigskin
12-01-2008, 01:59 PM
Darnell Autry
Rashaan Salaam
Peter Warrick

warrick is a good one
i was a fan of his at FSU

justin miller - pro bowler 2-3 years ago
ed hartwell - left bmore and was never the same player. was a total scheme player
eddie kennison - where did he go? he was always a steady reciever

and i didnt really forget about him... but shaun alexander... how the mighty fall hard

Hawk
12-01-2008, 02:04 PM
Marc Boerichter

nobodyinparticular
12-01-2008, 02:15 PM
warrick is a good one
i was a fan of his at FSU

justin miller - pro bowler 2-3 years ago
ed hartwell - left bmore and was never the same player. was a total scheme player
eddie kennison - where did he go? he was always a steady reciever

and i didnt really forget about him... but shaun alexander... how the mighty fall hard

There's a good one!

BuckNaked
12-01-2008, 02:28 PM
Jake Plummer, Stephen Davis, Jamie Sharper, Tommy Maddox, Jay Fiedler, Duce Staley, James Stewart, Eric Moulds, Curtis Conway

nobodyinparticular
12-01-2008, 02:30 PM
Jake Plummer, Stephen Davis, Jamie Sharper, Tommy Maddox, Jay Fiedler, Duce Staley, James Stewart, Eric Moulds, Curtis Conway

Stephen Davis and Duce Staley are two more good ones. So good that I had forgotten than I had forgotten them.

MetSox17
12-01-2008, 02:32 PM
Antonio Freeman!

nobodyinparticular
12-01-2008, 02:36 PM
How about this one? Natrone Means. Remember that guys in the mid-90s with the Chargers? Great season in '94 and then just mediocre for a few more years.

Continuing on with the one-year wonders at RB--Jamal Anderson. That dude was dope in '98. And then those 410 carries killed his career. I LOVED that guy in '98 though.

Moving to WR--Yancey Thigpen. Two great sandwich years in '94 and '96. Nothing else the rest of his career.

bigbluedefense
12-01-2008, 02:38 PM
Tyrone Wheately FTW!

nobodyinparticular
12-01-2008, 02:39 PM
Antonio Freeman!

True statement.

Brent
12-01-2008, 02:42 PM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/25/49886430_f414900fa8.jpg

"Real Deal"

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/cal/galleries/m_footbl_091005b/cal-wash5-lg.jpg

Joe Ayoob

nobodyinparticular
12-01-2008, 03:06 PM
Another playoff WR--Kevin Dyson. Remember him? Remember the stretch?

And from the same game, different team--Aeneas Williams.

kalbears13
12-01-2008, 03:18 PM
Marcus Vick

MetSox17
12-01-2008, 03:19 PM
Another playoff WR--Kevin Dyson. Remember him? Remember the stretch?

And from the same game, different team--Aeneas Williams.

Haha, i remember Aeneas Williams.

Aaron Brooks.

tjsunstein
12-01-2008, 03:21 PM
Marc Boerichter

Antonio Freeman!

And boom goes the dynamite. These two have to top the list.

SuperMcGee
12-01-2008, 03:33 PM
Jake Plummer, Stephen Davis, Jamie Sharper, Tommy Maddox, Jay Fiedler, Duce Staley, James Stewart, Eric Moulds, Curtis Conway

Moulds just punched some guy in the face at the club yesterday.

My answer is Germane Crowell. And Bill Schroeder.

GB12
12-01-2008, 03:49 PM
Remember when Eddie Drummond was the "better" version of Dante Hall? Or when Jerome Mathis was the "better" version of Eddie Drummond? Yeah. All 3 of those guys fell of the face of the earth. (I know that Hall is with the Rams and Drummond is somewhere (Steelers?)... Mathis is just out of sight though... Justin Miller got similar props from ESPN--he's with the Raiders now, but he's nowhere near the threat that he was that one year. So many of these return guys are like that--Hall probably had the best longevity, but that was, what? 3 years? 4 years that he was feared?

That's partially why I'm not too hot into the Devin Hester and Ted Ginn Jr. return-only guys because they'll likely come down to earth (or fall off the face of it) after a couple years. Guys like Hester and Ginn need to find a place outside of special teams if they want a prolonged career in the NFL.
Yep. People got way too excited over Hester. He is Dante Hall 2. Not that it's a bad thing for a returner to be called, but people actually thought he would be putting up 5 return TDs a season though and that was crazy. Great returners are great for 4 years at the most. Dante Hall started losing it when he was 26/27. Hester is already 26.

Zyro_1014
12-01-2008, 04:18 PM
Jason Gesser from WSU. If only he were around... WSU might be in the glory days where USC had legitimate competition in the Pac-10.

he was hella good for a couple years, a legit heisman contender in one of his seasons.

he was one of fav's because we always went to the Wazzu games.

Zyro_1014
12-01-2008, 04:20 PM
Antonio Freeman!

still always think about that SICK catch he had against Minny.

Pokeys
12-01-2008, 04:22 PM
Ed Hartwell was weird cause he fit in in Baltimore and looked like a good player but then he goes to Atlanta and it killed his career. He was out of the league after a season there.

Hawk
12-01-2008, 04:25 PM
Bill Schroeder, Keith McKenzie, Travis Jervey, Brett Conway, Lamont Hollinquist, George Koonce, Dorsey Levens, Jon Michels, Ryan Grant, Fred Vinson, and Craig Newsome.

What happened?

RaiderNation
12-01-2008, 04:27 PM
Zach Crockett,Tyrone Wheatley, Greg Biekert, John Ritchie, Charlie Garner

tjsunstein
12-01-2008, 04:31 PM
Dorsey Levens

Zyro_1014
12-01-2008, 04:35 PM
Zach Crockett,Tyrone Wheatley, Greg Biekert, John Ritchie, Charlie Garner


Loved Charlie, he was legit!

Brent
12-01-2008, 04:40 PM
http://www.miamidolphins.com/images/pressbox/pressreleases/extraphotos/prextra14985.jpg

Dave Ragone

nobodyinparticular
12-01-2008, 04:51 PM
Bill Schroeder, Keith McKenzie, Travis Jervey, Brett Conway, Lamont Hollinquist, George Koonce, Dorsey Levens, Jon Michels, Ryan Grant, Fred Vinson, and Craig Newsome.

What happened?

Dorsey Levens

Yes sirs. I was trying to remember another mid-late 90s back who fit the profile. Dorsey Levens is the man I was trying to remember.

jkpigskin
12-01-2008, 04:56 PM
Haha, i remember Aeneas Williams.

Aaron Brooks.

yeaaa... what happened to brooks?!?

and a lot of these are good but many are old and retired so it makes sense that you dont hear of them

BeerBaron
12-01-2008, 04:57 PM
yeaaa... what happened to brooks?!?

and a lot of these are good but many are old and retired so it makes sense that you dont hear of them

He went to the Raiders and then......end of story.

neko4
12-01-2008, 05:08 PM
yeaaa... what happened to brooks?!?

and a lot of these are good but many are old and retired so it makes sense that you dont hear of them

Aaron Brooks is working as a real estate agent in my area.


Earlier in 2008, he announced plans to invest in Southeast Commerce Center, a redevelopment project his hometown of Newport News (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport_News,_Virginia). In a story published in the New Orleans Times-Picayune (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans_Times-Picayune) newspaper in July 2008, he said there are plans in store for him and some partners to redevelop part of downtown Newport News, a city that shares many of the same social problems that plague New Orleans. [5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Brooks_(American_football)#cite_note-4) The multimillion-dollar investment will be a mixed-use development between Jefferson and Terminal avenues and 33rd and 29th streets in the economically depressed East End (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_End_(Newport_News)) area. [6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Brooks_(American_football)#cite_note-5) The project is planned to be a mixed-use residential community with 190 town houses, a grocery store and retail offerings. [4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Brooks_(American_football)#cite_note-dailypress.com-3) Vice Mayor Charles Allen, who has represented the district for 16 years on the Newport News City Council, stated to the Newport News Daily Press (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Press) that it was "significant that one of our own has taken his resources and other resources to show us that we can do it. It's a good day. It's a good day for our community." [7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Brooks_(American_football)#cite_note-6)
Brooks commented to the Daily Press: "It's a great opportunity to give back to the community and at the same time let retailers know we don't just have the stigma of being 'bad news,' ... a lot of hard-working, middle-class people that live in the area. I'm just trying to make the area better for them."[ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Brooks_(American_football)#cite_note-dailypress.com-3)

Jerome Mathis anyone?

Hampton University

4.28 forty

MetSox17
12-01-2008, 05:20 PM
He went to the Raiders and then......end of story.

He played horrible in New Orleans for a year or two before going to Oakland though.

gsorace
12-01-2008, 05:58 PM
Az-Zahir Hakim

tjsunstein
12-01-2008, 06:04 PM
Sam Adams
Joe Horn
La'Roi Glover
Dan Morgan
Jeremiah Trotter
Al Wilson
Stephen Davis
Jerry Azumah
Kendrell Bell
Jermaine Lewis

Now reminisce.

CashmoneyDrew
12-01-2008, 06:10 PM
Napoleon Kaufman and Skip Hicks were a couple of RB's I really liked that fell off the face of the earth.

captainjack27
12-01-2008, 06:11 PM
Sam Adams
Joe Horn
La'Roi Glover
Dan Morgan
Jeremiah Trotter
Al Wilson
Stephen Davis
Jerry Azumah
Kendrell Bell
Jermaine Lewis

Now reminisce.

career ended way to early :(

TimD
12-01-2008, 06:21 PM
andre wadsworth

captainjack27
12-01-2008, 06:22 PM
Chris Fuamatu-Ma'afala

http://www.steelertribute.com/fuma003.jpg

Brent
12-01-2008, 06:26 PM
Jerome Mathis
Beat his pregnant wife, so the Texans cut him.

MetSox17
12-01-2008, 06:30 PM
Can't believe no one has mentioned him yet..

LaVar Arrington!

dabears10
12-01-2008, 06:40 PM
career ended way to early :(

Zoom Zoom does post games for the bears now and even has a segment called, Bears GQ where he picks which player is best dressed.

nobodyinparticular
12-01-2008, 06:53 PM
Sam Adams
Joe Horn
La'Roi Glover
Dan Morgan
Jeremiah Trotter
Al Wilson
Stephen Davis
Jerry Azumah
Kendrell Bell
Jermaine Lewis

Now reminisce.

I'll see your Jeremiah Trotter and raise you a Hugh Douglas.

Ooooohhh, that reminded me of another former Eagle... Corey Simon just fell of the face of the earth too.

How about some obscure guys? Courtney Anderson and Teyo Johnson. Together with Doug Jolley, they were supposed to present the unique problem of 3 TEs (all with different skillsets) that could be starters. I believe it was 2005 that the question was which one would end up be the best starter. Just a few years later they are all either out of the league or barely hanging on.

Zyro_1014
12-01-2008, 06:53 PM
Can't believe no one has mentioned him yet..

LaVar Arrington!

WOW i was just on my way to posting that!...

....beat me to it my friend.

nobodyinparticular
12-01-2008, 06:54 PM
Jerome Mathis anyone?

Hampton University

4.28 forty

I already mentioned him on page 1 or 2.

WMD
12-01-2008, 07:06 PM
Not a favorite of mine.. but.. whatever happened to Peerless Price?

MetSox17
12-01-2008, 07:09 PM
George Teague

tjsunstein
12-01-2008, 07:12 PM
I'll see your Jeremiah Trotter and raise you a Hugh Douglas.

Ooooohhh, that reminded me of another former Eagle... Corey Simon just fell of the face of the earth too.

How about some obscure guys? Courtney Anderson and Teyo Johnson. Together with Doug Jolley, they were supposed to present the unique problem of 3 TEs (all with different skillsets) that could be starters. I believe it was 2005 that the question was which one would end up be the best starter. Just a few years later they are all either out of the league or barely hanging on.

Speaking of DTs.. Trevor Pryce. These guys aren't even my favorite anymore, just guys that fell off the face of the earth.

Jason Gildon. Didnt he have like 12 sacks one year?
Troy Vincent.
Marco Coleman.
Luther Elliss.
Edgerrin James.
Eddie George.
Soon to be Torry Holt.

B-Dawk
12-01-2008, 07:15 PM
Sam Adams
Joe Horn
La'Roi Glover
Dan Morgan
Jeremiah Trotter
Al Wilson
Stephen Davis
Jerry Azumah
Kendrell Bell
Jermaine Lewis

Now reminisce.

oh wow, i really liked him when he was with pitt

tjsunstein
12-01-2008, 07:20 PM
Speaking of Pitt.. haha how about Tommy Maddox

captainjack27
12-01-2008, 07:21 PM
Zoom Zoom does post games for the bears now and even has a segment called, Bears GQ where he picks which player is best dressed.

lol, what ended his career? Didn't he have a knee injury?

Beans
12-01-2008, 07:36 PM
Trung Candidate

MetSox17
12-01-2008, 07:38 PM
lamar gordon.

if i remember correctly, the dolphins traded a third rounder for him? or was it a second?

BeerBaron
12-01-2008, 07:40 PM
lol, what ended his career? Didn't he have a knee injury?

I believe it was a neck or a hip.....and not long after that, I remember reading that he got robbed.

That really sucked....but the Bears just seem to pull corners from out of nowhere. First there was RW and Azumah, then Tillman and Vasher, and now Corey Graham has come in out of practically no where....

Go_Eagles77
12-01-2008, 07:53 PM
I'm afraid if no one picks him up Tony Hunt may be the next "what ever happened to..." player.

Mr. Stiller
12-01-2008, 08:04 PM
Speaking of Pitt.. haha how about Tommy Maddox

Tommy Maddox did 1 great thing in Pittsburgh.

Stop Kordell from Being the QB and forced us to finally draft a Legit QB.

Thinking of other players that came through here...

Kent Graham, Amos Zerououe, Chris Fu'amatu(One bad) Ma'afala, Duce Staley..

You Mentioned Gildon. He had 13.5 Sacks in 2000.

bantx
12-01-2008, 08:09 PM
Mike Alstott

steelernation77
12-01-2008, 08:12 PM
Tommy Maddox did 1 great thing in Pittsburgh.

Stop Kordell from Being the QB and forced us to finally draft a Legit QB.

Thinking of other players that came through here...

Kent Graham, Amos Zerououe, Chris Fu'amatu(One bad) Ma'afala, Duce Staley..

You Mentioned Gildon. He had 13.5 Sacks in 2000.

Still wear my "One BAAAAAAAAAAAAD Ma'afala" shirt regularly.

sodar21
12-01-2008, 08:52 PM
Vince Young

Brent
12-01-2008, 08:56 PM
Brock Huard

619
12-01-2008, 08:59 PM
The heir apparent to Marino, JAY FIEDLER FTW !

Mr. Stiller
12-01-2008, 09:02 PM
The heir apparent to Marino, JAY FIEDLER FTW !

Tim Rattay the guy SF thought was "Superior" to Jeff Garcia. They've been Bunk and going downhill fast ever since they let Garcia go for Rattay.

tjsunstein
12-01-2008, 09:20 PM
Josh McCown
Musa Smith
Onterrio Smith - May have been mentioned.
Brian Brohm
AJ Feeley
Charlie Batch
Brian Calhoun
Michael Bennett
Kevan Barlow
Antowain Smith
Doug Gabriel
David Terrell
Freddie Mitchell
TIM DWIGHT!!!!!!!!!

BeerBaron
12-01-2008, 09:20 PM
Tim Rattay the guy SF thought was "Superior" to Jeff Garcia. They've been Bunk and going downhill fast ever since they let Garcia go for Rattay.

I had a 49ers friend who refused to call him anything but "Tim Ratcrap."

And he hated Ken Dorsey....blamed him entirely for getting the 49ers only shutout in like what, 30 years?

Brent
12-01-2008, 09:21 PM
Tim Rattay the guy SF thought was "Superior" to Jeff Garcia. They've been Bunk and going downhill fast ever since they let Garcia go for Rattay.
You must not pay close attention to the Niners. They didnt have the cap room to match Cleveland's offer when Garcia hit free agency because they were still getting out of cap hell.

captainjack27
12-01-2008, 09:30 PM
The heir apparent to Marino, JAY FIEDLER FTW !

FTW indeed hahahah

Staubach12
12-01-2008, 09:38 PM
Woah, what ever did happen to Michael Bennett?

And what a blast from the past, Domanick Davis... Wow. He was actually good.

BeerBaron
12-01-2008, 09:47 PM
And what a blast from the past, Domanick Davis... Wow. He was actually good.

Its the guys like Davis, who go from 1000+ yard seasons to nowhere in like a years time that really have you scratching your head.

Its one thing if a guy is really good, then tails off into mediocrity for a few years before failing out of football, but they go from actually good to nowhere...its puzzling.

skinzzfan25
12-01-2008, 09:54 PM
I remember Maurice Clarett.

The Unseen
12-01-2008, 10:23 PM
every player on the Jacksonville Jaguars

Turtlepower
12-01-2008, 10:24 PM
The heir apparent to Marino, JAY FIEDLER FTW !

Rock the Jew!!!!

Brent
12-01-2008, 11:27 PM
Tai Streets haha

Zyro_1014
12-01-2008, 11:37 PM
Ricky Watters!

Brodeur
12-01-2008, 11:51 PM
Bill Schroeder, Keith McKenzie, Travis Jervey, Brett Conway, Lamont Hollinquist, George Koonce, Dorsey Levens, Jon Michels, Ryan Grant, Fred Vinson, and Craig Newsome.

What happened?

He apparently lost the use of his hands. As for my choice, I'll go with Mike McMahon. Everyone knows he was going to rule the league if given the time.

Rayray52
12-02-2008, 12:13 AM
Broncos LB John Mobley, he was in some 989 football commercials had a great year but was never the same after an injury

Sam Gash FB Great for the Ravens never heard much after the SB season

Peter Boulware LB Dude fell off so bad after leaving Baltimore

Tony Bosseli T Could never stay healthy

Dexter Coakley LB

Dimitrius Underwood DT

dabears10
12-02-2008, 12:16 AM
I don't think he was anyone's favorite, but FredEX.

CashmoneyDrew
12-02-2008, 12:21 AM
Trung Candidate is another RB I haven't seen mentioned.

PACKmanN
12-02-2008, 12:24 AM
I remember Maurice Clarett.

I remember Mike Hass

BeerBaron
12-02-2008, 12:40 AM
He apparently lost the use of his hands. As for my choice, I'll go with Mike McMahon. Everyone knows he was going to rule the league if given the time.

McMahon was the best Madden QB there was pre-vision cone.....I had this perfect roll out PA pass. Fake the hand off, role out right, look for Berrian deep (yeah, I brought him to the Bears.) If Berrian was covered, dump it off short to the FB like 4 yards away and always pick up the first down. Perfection incarnate.

It eventually got the point where I wouldn't use that play because it was just unfair....and no one without Mike McMahon could do it just right.

MarioPalmer
12-02-2008, 12:44 AM
http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s327/gsus8091/016235851.jpg

Marcus Tubbs was a beast and he had the potential to turn around the Seahawks. The year they went to the Super Bowl was on the back of Tubbs and that defense. That was Tubbs'only full healthy season and he still missed time. After he was selected in the 1rst round he had family issues and missed most of his rookie training camp and I think even part of the season. He never had much of an impact during his 1rst year. But then he exploded onto the scene during his second year and was quickly rising as one of the more talented DT's in the NFL. He was a force in the run game and even had a push to collapse the pocket in the passing game. He made the Seahwak D a powerful machine. In his 3rd year the injuries started to happen more frequently and more serious. Countless kneee injuries finally forced Seattle to cut him after he failed his physical. He is since out of football.

Once a player with a huge amount of potential and a steal for a player that was picked in the latter part of the 1rst round. He was part of that phenom 2004 NFL Draft class that had the likes of Eli Manning, Larry Fitzgerald, Philip Rivers, Sean Taylor, Kellen Winslow Jr., Roy Williams, DeAngelo Hall, Dunta Robinson, Ben Rothlisberger, Jonathan Vilma, Lee, Evans, Tommie Harris, Shawn Andrews, D.J. Williams, Will Smith, Vernon Carey, Vince Wilfork, Steven Jackson, Chris Gamble and Ben Watson.

Marcus Tubbs was in the same class as all these players out of that 1rst round, but because of his injuries he will be mentioned with the likes of Robert Gallery, Reggie Williams, Michael Clayton, Kenechi Udeze, J.P. Losman, Ahmad Carroll, Chris Perry, Jason Babin, Michael Jenkins, Kevin Jones and Rashaun Woods. Not a great list to be associated with.

Tubbs had "it", to bad "it" did want him.

tjsunstein
12-02-2008, 01:06 AM
Anthony Becht??
Tommy Polley
Grant Wistrom
Kyle Turley

locseti
12-02-2008, 02:45 AM
JJ Stokes

and all the 'scat backs'

Eric Bienemy
Tim Biakabatuka
Amp Lee

ChiFan24
12-02-2008, 05:04 AM
How about

Stephen Boyd
Keith Mitchell
Kelly Holcomb (cerca 2002)
Jamir Miller
Bobby Taylor
Dat Nguyen
Darnay Scott
Marcus Robinson
Jim Miller
Mark Chmura
Bobby Hoying
Moe Williams
Steve Foley
Donnie Abraham
Earthwind Moreland
Larry Whigham
Rabih Abdullah
Detron Smith
Joe Johnson
Sam Cowart
Kevin Hardy

bored of education
12-02-2008, 07:58 AM
Mark Chmura was banging underaged chicks or something.

bored of education
12-02-2008, 07:59 AM
what happened to Rae Carruth :(

rchrd
12-02-2008, 08:58 AM
Devonte Edwards only because of his pick 6 at Green Bay his rookie year. Broke an arm or something? Havent heard from him since, I thought he was in KC but honestly have no idea.

Hawk
12-02-2008, 10:59 AM
Mark Chmura was banging underaged chicks or something.

What a shame.

http://www2.jsonline.com/news/wauk/chmura/images/chmura2-0127.jpg

XxXdragonXxX
12-02-2008, 12:39 PM
Anthony Simmons, dude was an absolute monster for 2 years.

D.J. Hackett.

49ersfan_87
12-02-2008, 02:11 PM
Not my favorites, but whatever happened to..

Paul Edinger
Ricky Manning Jr.
Drew Bledsoe
Corey Dillon
Eric Johnson
Koy Detmer

And my favorite old player i never hear about anymore..

Eric Metcalf

I used to play with him all the time in Madden 95. I think he was a part of that big Ryan Leaf trade up.

Mr. Stiller
12-02-2008, 02:26 PM
I miss Robert Porcher. Yeah DE Lions. The guy was just insane.

Herman Moore was also a favorite of mine.. but these guys are a bit older.

captainjack27
12-02-2008, 02:30 PM
Michael "Beer Man" Lewis

Don Vito
12-02-2008, 03:02 PM
Bobby Taylor was one of my favorite players and he kind of fell off the face of the earth. I was always a fan of the bigger corners, even guys who never panned out in the NFL like Brandon Browner or Jimmy Williams. I remember they were both potential first rounders at one point with Williams even being considered as a top 10 guy at one point.

Some others:

-Tebucky Jones
-Peter Warrick
-Antowain Smith
-Bryan Cox
-Duce Staley
-Bobby Hamilton
-Jermaine Wiggins
-Robert Porcher
-Bethel Johnson

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
12-02-2008, 03:28 PM
what happened to Rae Carruth :(

Spending his days at Nash Correctional Institution in North Carolina. I hope that someone has turned him into a nice girlfriend. Maybe that will teach him to respect and appreciate women. What a ******* asshole Carruth is, to have your pregnant girlfriend murdered is just unreal.

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
12-02-2008, 03:30 PM
Mark Chmura was banging underaged chicks or something.

Mark Chmura = Pedo Bear

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
12-02-2008, 03:44 PM
Here are a few

Andy Katzenmoyer
Sylvester Morris
Giovanni Carmazzi
Snoop Minnis
Roosevelt Williams
Michael Haynes
Stefan LeFors
Kurt Kittner
Charles Rogers
Kenechi Udeze
Erasmus James
Craig Krenzel
Andy Hall
Omar Jacobs
Mike Williams
Shaun Cody
Dan Cody
Vernand Morency

Brent
12-02-2008, 04:23 PM
Giovanni Carmazzi
After the Niners made the awful mistake of drafting him, he faded into obscurity/practice squad/NFL Europe. Also, his drafting pissed off Tom Brady (life long Niner fan and CA native) so when he was taken in the 6th by the Pats he swore to himself to get back at the Niners every time they face a team he starts for.

tjsunstein
12-02-2008, 05:19 PM
Bruce Gradkowski....












wait.... he's on the Browns? As of today? Sucks for him.

Malaka
12-02-2008, 05:23 PM
Omar Jacobs


Yeah where is this guy now? I liked watching him in college and remember last year starting a franchise with him in madden 08, I signed him as a developmental QB and got him to like an 88 or something, then in an update he disappeared.

russie
12-02-2008, 06:12 PM
Here are a few
Kenechi Udeze
Erasmus James


kenechi has/had lukemia and is intending on making a return next year. james ended up with the redskins and i dont know what happened after he signed there

Go_Eagles77
12-02-2008, 06:49 PM
Corey Simon

D-Unit
12-02-2008, 06:52 PM
JJ Stokes

and all the 'scat backs'

Eric Bienemy
Tim Biakabatuka
Amp Lee

Amp Lee!!! +rep comin'!

D-Unit
12-02-2008, 06:55 PM
Peter Warrick... Damn... He was the man. Funny how Laverneous Coles made it and he didn't.

bored of education
12-02-2008, 07:06 PM
TAMMARICK VANOVER sick return guy for KC

i think mispelled his 1st name though

D-Unit
12-02-2008, 07:14 PM
What about Casey Weldon? hahaha! He was the MAN!

tjsunstein
12-02-2008, 07:31 PM
Mark Brunell
Sam Gash
Garrison Hearst
Jessie Tuggle
Jessie Armstead
Chad Brown
Stephen Alexander
Sam Cowart

TACKLE
12-02-2008, 07:35 PM
http://www.sportable.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/jakeplummermustache.jpg

scottyboy
12-02-2008, 07:37 PM
Jessie Armstead


my favorite player of all time. Currently coaching the Giants LBs

GB12
12-02-2008, 07:37 PM
Marviel Underwood

bored of education
12-02-2008, 07:39 PM
Andy Roidzenmoyer

TimD
12-02-2008, 07:41 PM
Andy Roidzenmoyer

LOL who?! idk him haha

bored of education
12-02-2008, 07:44 PM
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0608/10.greatest.freshmen/images/Katzenmoyer_AP.jpg
http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/1998/0831_large.jpg
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/09/09/gallery.ohiotexas/katzenmoyer.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/ChadFinn/more%20pics%201/katzenmoyer.jpg
that friggen guy

he could shed blocks!~

niel89
12-02-2008, 07:47 PM
Here are a few

Dan Cody

he got hurt every damn year. it a shame too because he had talent but he spent more time on IR then the field.

niel89
12-02-2008, 07:48 PM
http://www.sportable.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/jakeplummermustache.jpg

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/10/plummerhandball.jpg

Scotty D
12-02-2008, 08:18 PM
Gilbert Brown

ImBrotherCain
12-02-2008, 08:30 PM
I hate to say it being a Tech fan and all but if Deangelo Hall keeps his **** up i can see him on this list. Alot of these players bounced around from team to team quite fast and Hall has done that.

Granted i dont know how hes doing on the Skins but i could see him falling hard and fast

Xiomera
12-02-2008, 08:39 PM
I love how half the players mentioned were Lions at one point, haha.

Here's a few more ex-Lions who faded into oblivion . . .

James Stewart
Ron Rivers (the heir to the Barry Sanders throne)
Tracy Scroggins
Terry Fair
Mikael Ricks
Kywin Supernaw
John Jett
Stoney Case
Tommy Vardell
Scotty Anderson
Scottie Vines
Tony Semple (this weekends honorary Lions captain, haha)
Juan Roque
Brock Olivo
Sedrick Irvin
Walter Rasby
Jeff Gooch
John Joseph "Piano Man" Harrington III

Mr. Stiller
12-02-2008, 08:42 PM
Yeah where is this guy now? I liked watching him in college and remember last year starting a franchise with him in madden 08, I signed him as a developmental QB and got him to like an 88 or something, then in an update he disappeared.

Pittsburgh Drafted him in 06, then Roethlisberger had his accident, and we had to cut him in favor Of Brian St. Suckierre.

I still maintain Jacobs would be in the NFL if Roethlisberger didn't wreck. He had beautiful touch on his passes, but with some work on his mechanics he could've had a ton more velocity. He really didnt' get much PT in the pre-season that year but he looked very good. Then he went on to Philly's PS and just disappeared.

Malaka
12-02-2008, 09:36 PM
Pittsburgh Drafted him in 06, then Roethlisberger had his accident, and we had to cut him in favor Of Brian St. Suckierre.

I still maintain Jacobs would be in the NFL if Roethlisberger didn't wreck. He had beautiful touch on his passes, but with some work on his mechanics he could've had a ton more velocity. He really didnt' get much PT in the pre-season that year but he looked very good. Then he went on to Philly's PS and just disappeared.

Damn, I always liked playing with him in madden :(

But why did St. Pierre make it over Omar if he looked as promising as you say?

tjsunstein
12-02-2008, 09:38 PM
Damn, I always liked playing with him in madden :(

But why did St. Pierre make it over Omar if he looked as promising as you say?

St. Pierre was more ready for PT than Jacobs who would have needed atleast a year of coaching.

mpt117
12-02-2008, 11:46 PM
no safeties gettin love, here are some throwbacks:

Carnell Lake
LeRoy Butler
Orlando Thomas
Robert Griffith
Blaine Bishop
and my favorite

MERTON HANKS

with his dance move known as: the funky chicken, the duck, the waddle, the rag doll, and the rubberneck among others. haha, this guy is the man

some WRs:
James Jett
Qadry Ismail
Rocket Ismail
Irving Fryar

Borat
12-02-2008, 11:49 PM
MERTON HANKS

He's now the guy that hands out the hats to the 1st round draft picks as they make their way onto the stage at the draft. LOL.

mpt117
12-02-2008, 11:52 PM
hahah now that is hilarious...merton givin out hats to the 1st round picks while he is doin the funky chicken

Pokeys
12-02-2008, 11:53 PM
Jessie Tuggle was great.

MetSox17
12-03-2008, 12:02 AM
Drew Henson.

My blind fan-hood at the time made me believe he was gonna be a half decent quarterback. HE BEAT THE BEARS!! :(

Mr. Stiller
12-03-2008, 12:06 AM
Damn, I always liked playing with him in madden :(

But why did St. Pierre make it over Omar if he looked as promising as you say?

He was promising in the fact his touch on passes was perfect, but he struggled a bit with the playbook as a rookie.

Pierre was kept for the sheer fact that he was with the team for 3 years and knew the playbook that if it came down to Ben's injury holding him out that he would be the first guy off the PS ( I Believe that season we went in with Charlie Batch the #1, Tommy Maddox the #2 and Pierre the #3).

What irritates me the most is the fact that Pierre never saw the field and with Maddox there Jacobs should've had time to develop.

locseti
12-03-2008, 12:44 AM
I love how half the players mentioned were Lions at one point, haha.

Here's a few more ex-Lions who faded into oblivion . . .

James Stewart
Ron Rivers (the heir to the Barry Sanders throne)
Tracy Scroggins
Terry Fair
Mikael Ricks
Kywin Supernaw
John Jett
Stoney Case
Tommy Vardell
Scotty Anderson
Scottie Vines
Tony Semple (this weekends honorary Lions captain, haha)
Juan Roque
Brock Olivo
Sedrick Irvin
Walter Rasby
Jeff Gooch
John Joseph "Piano Man" Harrington III

The only guy missing on this Lions list is Mel Gray.

locseti
12-03-2008, 12:48 AM
I've got the one that takes the cake - Carlester Crumpler. I believe Alge's older brother. Maybe the greatest name for a TE ever. Was a terror for a few years.

Shane P. Hallam
12-03-2008, 12:53 AM
Yancy Thigpen, Troy Edwards, and Craig Nall.

Mr. Stiller
12-03-2008, 01:00 AM
Yancy Thigpen, Troy Edwards, and Craig Nall.

I miss Yancey, I can't believe you liked Edwards.

I'd add:

Greg Lloyd, Levon Kirkland, Carlos Emmons, Bam Morris, Eric Pegram, Tunch Ilkin, Craig Wolfley, Dirt Dawson(Should get in the HOF soon).

I even Miss Jerome Bettis.

Matthew Jones
12-03-2008, 01:26 AM
Giovanni Carmazzi
Major Applewhite
Quentin Griffin
Cam Cleeland - wrecked his hands (and thus career) rescuing someone from a fire
Earthwind Moreland
Gilbert Brown

Tshimanga "Tim" Biakabutuka

Ness
12-03-2008, 01:30 AM
Lance Schulters. We haven't had a good free safety since he was here.

Bruce Banner
12-03-2008, 01:44 AM
ness sighting!

get back to the thread!

CroomDawgs
12-03-2008, 01:46 AM
Shaun Alexander
Kevin Greene
Stephen Davis

locseti
12-03-2008, 02:17 AM
Tony Parrish fell off so quick. and I think somebody mentioned these guys, but those early 90's Bills LB's, Cornelius Bennett and Daryl Talley. Also wonder what happened to Bryan Cox. Those Miami/Buffalo games were awesome.

the_legend_killer
12-03-2008, 07:39 AM
Terrell Fletcher

FloridaSkinzFan
12-03-2008, 11:10 AM
LaVar Arrington?

Best OLB in the league his first 3 seasons, then all the sudden he hurts his knee and gregg williams says he sucks because all he does is freelance. next thing i know hes on the giants and now doing nothing?...

ER.

umphrey
12-03-2008, 11:37 AM
Stephen Davis, LaVar Arrington good calls

I'm an admitted Samkon Gado fan. I didn't think he would evolve into a true starter or anything but he was my favorite player to watch that year.

bored of education
12-03-2008, 11:40 AM
I heard Samkon Gado is a pirate for some northwestern african country

umphrey
12-03-2008, 11:43 AM
I heard Samkon Gado is a pirate for some northwestern african country

Then he would still be my favorite player

I think he does missionary/medical work in Nigeria, he was really religious and into medicine

bored of education
12-03-2008, 11:44 AM
aka pirating booty

OSUGiants17
12-03-2008, 02:22 PM
Joe Horn
La'Roi Glover
Dan Morgan
Al Wilson
Stephen Davis
Kendrell Bell
Aeneas Williams
Zack Crocket
Ike Hilliard
Joe Jurevicius
LaVar Arrington
Jim Finn
Carlos Emmons
Edgerin James(sp?)
Drew Bledsoe
Wayne Cherbet
Vinny Testaverde
Dante Hall
Dante Culpepper
Odell Thurman
Priest Holmes
Nick Greisen
Marshall Faulk
Eddie George
Tommy Madox
Adam Vinateri
Marvin Harrison
Tony Parrish
Junior Seau
Jason Taylor
Shaun Alexander
Jerome Bettis
Na'il Diggs
Napoleon Harris
Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila
Dat Nguyen

StripedWalrus
12-03-2008, 03:05 PM
Joe Horn
La'Roi Glover
Dan Morgan
Al Wilson
Stephen Davis
Kendrell Bell
Aeneas Williams
Zack Crocket
Ike Hilliard
Joe Jurevicius
LaVar Arrington
Jim Finn
Carlos Emmons
Edgerin James(sp?)
Drew Bledsoe
Wayne Cherbet
Vinny Testaverde
Dante Hall
Dante Culpepper
Odell Thurman
Priest Holmes
Nick Greisen
Marshall Faulk
Eddie George
Tommy Madox
Adam Vinateri
Marvin Harrison
Tony Parrish
Junior Seau
Jason Taylor
Shaun Alexander
Jerome Bettis
Na'il Diggs
Napoleon Harris
Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila
Dat Nguyen

The title of the thread is Favorite players that disappeared, not Favorite players that had long or successful careers and then decided to retire, or players that moved to different teams and you stopped following them.

Some of the players on your list are still playing football at reasonable level of decency.

And everyone knows where Vinny Testerverde is. He will never dissapear.

tjsunstein
12-03-2008, 03:39 PM
no safeties gettin love, here are some throwbacks:

Carnell Lake
LeRoy Butler
Orlando Thomas
Robert Griffith
Blaine Bishop
and my favorite

MERTON HANKS

with his dance move known as: the funky chicken, the duck, the waddle, the rag doll, and the rubberneck among others. haha, this guy is the man

some WRs:
James Jett
Qadry Ismail
Rocket Ismail
Irving Fryar

Half of these guys retired at one point and you apparently missed it. LeRoy Butler didnt dissapear at all by the way.

The title of the thread is Favorite players that disappeared, not Favorite players that had long or successful careers and then decided to retire, or players that moved to different teams and you stopped following them.

Some of the players on your list are still playing football at reasonable level of decency.

And everyone knows where Vinny Testerverde is. He will never dissapear.

My thoughts exactly.

Hawk
12-03-2008, 04:42 PM
Giovanni Carmazzi
Major Applewhite
Quentin Griffin
Cam Cleeland - wrecked his hands (and thus career) rescuing someone from a fire
Earthwind Moreland
Gilbert Brown

Tshimanga "Tim" Biakabutuka

I don't remember even hearing him burning his hands. I know the story but thought he only suffered from some smoke inhalation.

SubNoize
12-03-2008, 05:44 PM
RB JR Redmond
TE Ethan Horton
RB ReShard Lee
LB/S Darnell Bing
DE Tony Bryant
WR Mervyn Fernandez
LB James Folston
LB Rob Fredrickson
DE/LB DeLawerence Grant
T Chad Slaughter
DB James Trapp
WR John Stone

juiceman32
12-03-2008, 06:07 PM
Levar Fisher- OLB Cardinals... I thought he was such a beast coming out of college and then he had a couple of good years and disappeared

R Jay Soward- WR Jaguars... Went from my favorite college team to my then favorite NFL team and I was young and thought he would be a superstar. Never happened, I don't even know if he lasted a season.

Kevin Hardy- OLB Jaguars... Was amazing for several seasons. One of my all-time favorite players, but he faded quickly.

I'll post some others later these are 3 quickies that popped into my head.

bearfan
12-03-2008, 06:08 PM
I dont know if its been said, but Onterrio Smith RB Vikings. Loved him, but off the field incidents limited his career in the NFL

Malaka
12-03-2008, 06:14 PM
I remember some... Chris Claiborne, w/e happened to him, he was one of those famed #55 Trojan Linebackers, was a pretty good LB prospect, and had a couple of good years with the Vikings got cut, signed on with Giants as a back-up and now I guess is out of the league.

Peter Boulware, the linebacker for the Ravens during their Super Bowl win? I loved that guy even though they beat the Giants... what happened to him? I remember him as an FA in like Madden 07 with like a 72 overall.

zCaddyz
12-03-2008, 07:08 PM
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/The-Prince_2007/spikes.jpg comeback 06!......................wait

Sniper
12-03-2008, 07:25 PM
Tshimanga "Tim" Biakabutuka

JebemqUKRwA

313 yards. What a ******* sex panther.

Hawk
12-03-2008, 07:28 PM
Ernest Shazor haha

HawkeyeFan
12-03-2008, 07:32 PM
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAGN009~Aeneas-Williams-2004-Action-Posters.jpg

bored of education
12-03-2008, 07:38 PM
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAGN009~Aeneas-Williams-2004-Action-Posters.jpg


A top 10 CB of all time IMO. one of my favorite players ever. I loved watching him play. Since 1988 only Primetime and Champ were better at CB.

Brodeur
12-03-2008, 07:52 PM
Why do people keep listeing Aeneas Williams? He was 36 when he retired and stopped playing after a fairly successful move to free safety...

HawkeyeFan
12-03-2008, 07:58 PM
Why do people keep listeing Aeneas Williams? He was 36 when he retired and stopped playing after a fairly successful move to free safety...

He didn't offically retire yet.

StripedWalrus
12-03-2008, 09:58 PM
JebemqUKRwA

313 yards. What a ******* sex panther.

That was all Oline. Did you see those gaps the Oline was opening!!!!???! He was getting 10 yards without even being touched!

LonghornsLegend
12-03-2008, 10:56 PM
Everytime one of these threads come up, this is instantly the first guy that comes to mind:

http://www.theraiderzone.com/photos/kaufman03.jpg


Napoleon Kaufman, maybe he just retired or got old but seems like he had one very good year then disappeared.

*10 pages are too much to see if he's been mentioned*

aNYtitan
12-03-2008, 11:27 PM
Eddie George walked right off into the sunset after getting his body pounded for the Titans/Oilers organization. He was the man though, before 2 RB systems, when a team could rely on on feature back and we had a guy who never went down and always gave us 300 caries

CashmoneyDrew
12-03-2008, 11:33 PM
Everytime one of these threads come up, this is instantly the first guy that comes to mind:

http://www.theraiderzone.com/photos/kaufman03.jpg


Napoleon Kaufman, maybe he just retired or got old but seems like he had one very good year then disappeared.

*10 pages are too much to see if he's been mentioned*

I did! Woot!

Sniper
12-04-2008, 07:30 AM
That was all Oline. Did you see those gaps the Oline was opening!!!!???! He was getting 10 yards without even being touched!

Are you talking down to Mr. 313?

nobodyinparticular
12-04-2008, 08:33 AM
Everytime one of these threads come up, this is instantly the first guy that comes to mind:

http://www.theraiderzone.com/photos/kaufman03.jpg


Napoleon Kaufman, maybe he just retired or got old but seems like he had one very good year then disappeared.

*10 pages are too much to see if he's been mentioned*

He retired really early (27 or 28?) to be a preacher in the Bay Area. He comes around training camp every once in a while and his church is on TV in NorCal.

619
12-04-2008, 08:39 AM
Everytime one of these threads come up, this is instantly the first guy that comes to mind:

http://www.theraiderzone.com/photos/kaufman03.jpg


Napoleon Kaufman, maybe he just retired or got old but seems like he had one very good year then disappeared.

*10 pages are too much to see if he's been mentioned*

That reminds me of this man !

http://www.buccaneers.com/media/photos/misc/Wheatley07_19_06_1_b.jpg

Tyrone Wheatley :D

CroomDawgs
12-04-2008, 09:06 AM
Brock Forsey lol

suposed2bsweated
12-04-2008, 12:19 PM
Has Antonio Langham been mentioned? Him and Craig Newsome were a couple of my favorite cornerbacks.. Both went the way of the dinosaur

tjsunstein
12-04-2008, 12:42 PM
....Olindo Mare? haha

M.O.T.H.
12-04-2008, 01:09 PM
Derrick Ross.... Troy Hambrick, a couple of legendary cowboys.

Two complete morons but, two of my favorite Cowboys at the time.

M.O.T.H.
12-04-2008, 01:12 PM
Derek Ross was the first name that popped to my head when i read the title of the thread. He played awesome his rookie year, then fell off the map.

Woody Dantzler.
Antonio Bryant.

Wrecked his knee and was some kind of gang banger in his spare time. Just like Hambrick, I'm pretty sure Ross is in jail right now. I know he's been arrested a good three times or so since his NFL career ended.

M.O.T.H.
12-04-2008, 01:21 PM
Some of my other favorites, dont ask me why.

Aaron Gibson
Kareem Larrimore
John Avery
Randal Williams
Avion Black
Reggie Swinton
Willie Middlebrooks
Daylon Mccutcheon
Michael Bishop
Az Hakim
Alonzo Spellman's crazy ass
Napoleon Kaufman
Sherman Williams
Stepfret Williams
my boy Kevin Smith
Billy Davis
Wane "mother flippin" Mcgarity
Scottie Montgomery
Tim Dwight
Brock Huard
Chris Warren

#1chiefs_fan
12-04-2008, 01:26 PM
cb gary baxter. he was really good on the ravens.

MetSox17
12-04-2008, 02:26 PM
Randal Williams
Reggie Swinton


I remember Randal. Everyone always raved about his blazing speed, lol. The only good thing that guy ever did was stick it to Andy Reid when he got cute and tried an onside kick at the beginning of the game and Randal took it to the house, haha.

Reggie Swinton was one of my favs as well.

Edit - Aveion Cason anyone?

The only good thing i ever remember him doing is taking an option pitch from Richie Anderson to the house against Detroit, i believe.

d34ng3l021
12-04-2008, 02:51 PM
Who was that Hambrick guy from the Cowboys? He was SO good in Madden.

M.O.T.H.
12-04-2008, 02:55 PM
Yeah, Randal was the prototypical workout warrior w/ no game type. That 4.18 speed, that he rarely got to show off and the 40+ inch vert. Geez. All wrapped into a 6'3 220+ lb frame. Too bad he couldnt run a god damn route or consistantly catch a football. Damn tease.

M.O.T.H.
12-04-2008, 02:56 PM
Who was that Hambrick guy from the Cowboys? He was SO good in Madden.

Linebacker or runningback? There was Darren the LB and Troy the RB.

I loved using Troy in Madden...he was seriously my favorite Cowboy for years and now he's in jail for selling crack.

His story is rather depressing really. He was an excellent back up to Emmitt and pretty much was the reason Emmitt was kicked to the curb, that and Emmitt was terrible at the end of his career...but anway...in the most important off-season of Troy's life, he gorged himself on his mother's fine southern cooking. no joke. So he puts on about 25 pounds of pure fat. Instantly getting on, then new, Bill Parcells' bad side. I'll always remember him calling out Hambrick the first day they met. "My runningback's a whale" was one of my favorite lines. But yeah, he pretty much blew it. Had a couple good games, including one of the best rushing performances in team history when he ran for 189 against the Skins but, was fairly mediocre and still fat for the season and eventually was replaced by Julius Jones and he went on to bounce around to the Cards and Raiders. Then he attempted his comeback in arena football...got cut for selling drugs...and then he got arrested for battery and then finally he was arrested for selling unreal amounts of crack and is currently in jail.

The end.

YAYareaRB
12-04-2008, 03:03 PM
Jose Cortez

http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/fortyniners/2005/11/26/sp_49erscortez.jpg

M.O.T.H.
12-04-2008, 03:25 PM
I remember Danny Kight...

http://www.cheddarheads.co.uk/hof/danny3.jpg

Greatest kick off specialist ever?

CroomDawgs
12-04-2008, 03:35 PM
Props to whoever said Chris Warren. He was pretty good in seattle then disappeared

Im_a_Romosexual
12-04-2008, 04:05 PM
Jose Cortez

http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/fortyniners/2005/11/26/sp_49erscortez.jpg

I think Larry Allen killed him

MetSox17
12-04-2008, 04:41 PM
I think Larry Allen ate him

Fixed. tenchar

619
12-04-2008, 04:47 PM
JORDYZZZ before JORDYZZZZZZ

http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2006-06/23728529.jpg