Jingle Bell, Jingle Bell, Jingle Bell Mock

[CJSchneider]

Sorry, no explanations, but I wanted to get this up before I find another excuse to wait. I'll answer questions though. A few "out there" ideas went into this, I'll admit, but I think it will be good food for thought in some cases.

As always there are a few trades and disclaimers

Chad Ocho Cinco traded to Tampa Bay for 2nd
Terrell Suggs signs with Arizona
Channing Crowder signs with Dallas


Sam Bradford and Colt McCoy do not declare.
Myrone Rolle opts to go to Oxford.



Patriots trade 1st rounder #18, 3rd rounder #82
for
Saints #15


Broncos trade 1st rounder #20
for
Indianapolis 1st rounder #26, 3rd rounder #90 and 4th rounder in 2010

1. Detroit - Matt Stafford QB Georgia

2 Cincinnati - Chris Wells RB Ohio

3.Kansas City - Andre Smith OT Alabama

4. St. Louis- Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia

5 Seattle- Micheal Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech

6Oakland -Micheal Oher OT Ole Miss

7 San Francisco- Brian Orakpo DE Texas

8 San Diego- Rey Maualuga ILB USC

9 Jacksonville- William Moore S Missouri

10 Cleveland- Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St.

11 Green Bay- Everett Brown DE Florida St.

12 Houston- Aaron Curry OLB Wake Forest

13 Buffalo- Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma

14 Chicago- Jeremy- Maclin WR Missouri

15New England (from New Orleans) James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio St.

16Philadelphia- Sergio Kindle LB Texas

17 Miami- Vontae Davis CB Illinois

18 New Orleans (from New England ) Brian Cushing OLB USC

19Washington- Greg Hardy DE Ole Miss

20 Indianapolis (from Denver) San’Derrick Marks DT Auburn

21 Minnesota- Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest

22 Arizona- Knoshon Moreno RB Georgia

23 Atlanta- Peria Jerry DT Mississippi

24 Baltimore WR Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland

25 Detroit (from Dallas) Tyson Jackson DE LSU

26Denver (from Indianapolis)Taylor Mays S USC

27 New York Jets- DJ Moore CB Vanderbilt

28 Tampa Bay- B.J. Raji DT Boston College

29 Philadelphia- (from Carolina) Jason Smith OT Baylor

30 Pittsburgh- Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma

31Tennessee- George Selvie DE South Florida

32 New York Giants- Percy Harvin WR Florida

[CashmoneyDrew]

You have D.J. Moore going four spots too high.

[giantsfan]

Do you expect us not to re-sign Webster? Because that's the only way I could see a corner making sense for us since ROss and Webster are playing well as the starters and TT looks like a stud as the Nickelback as long as he doesn't have the injuries he had at USC.

Some general thoughts:
you don't think Andre Smith declares? I understand having Britton not coming out but Andre SMith? he's a top 5 lock and isn't going to get any taller.

it's Sergio Kindle

And You have Jason Smith going awefully low. I like him more than Monroe in some a lot of situations. He's my number fourth after Andre Smith and Oher/Britton.

[wicket]

As a saints fan this makes me happy :)

[CJSchneider]

Do you expect us not to re-sign Webster? Because that's the only way I could see a corner making sense for us since ROss and Webster are playing well as the starters and TT looks like a stud as the Nickelback as long as he doesn't have the injuries he had at USC.

Some general thoughts:
you don't think Andre Smith declares? I understand having Britton not coming out but Andre SMith? he's a top 5 lock and isn't going to get any taller.

it's Sergio Kindle

And You have Jason Smith going awefully low. I like him more than Monroe in some a lot of situations. He's my number fourth after Andre Smith and Oher/Britton.

I knew I had something off when I came up short at the end. I'm gonna fix that and have you take another over all look. That will fix the Giants pick also.

[CJSchneider]

As a saints fan this makes me happy :)

I know I've said all along that NO will trade down further then that, but when I started putting all the pieces in, that was the only one that made sense from both sides (Hey, I want to be right but not at the expense of being illogical).
It may be a bit of a reach for Cushing, but it does afford us another pick.

[RaiderNation]

Good raider pick

[Turtlepower]

I knew I had something off when I came up short at the end. I'm gonna fix that and have you take another over all look. That will fix the Giants pick also.

We don't need a slot receiver because we have that with Smith at the moment. I'd prefer Vince Ogbosese (or however the hell you spell his name).

[Zyro_1014]

Not too sure about the Kindle pick quite yet,

but i do like the Jason Smith pick.

[giantsfan]

We don't need a slot receiver because we have that with Smith at the moment. I'd prefer Vince Ogbosese (or however the hell you spell his name).

If one of the top DEs, OTs, Ss or DHB isn't at our pick I want us to go with Vince Oghobaase. I only mention OTs because htis draft has about 5 franchise caliber LTs if britton declares and while I love Diehl I'd love diehl even more at RT with someone like Jason SMith or Eugen Monroe opposite him at LT.

[Sniper]

Holy **** I almost peed myself when I saw Sergio Kindle to the Eagles. A new SAM backer would be so glorious. It'd never happen because the Eagles love them some Chris Gocong, but it's still ******* sweet!

I'm meh on Smith, but everyone seems to like him, so fine.

[woodnick]

I dont think the Lions would draft Tyson Jackson when Jason Smith is still on the board. IMO, Jackson is more of a 3-4 DE or a DE/DT tweener in a cover 2 and we already have a couple there in IAF, Redding, and Cohen.

Nice draft though, the trade really made a lot of sense to me and I dont say that very often. Not many people truly understand the thought of jumping ahead of a team or 2 to get a postion that that team may take.

[CJSchneider]

We don't need a slot receiver because we have that with Smith at the moment. I'd prefer Vince Ogbosese (or however the hell you spell his name).

My thoughts on that were that:
1. I have no idea about the future of Plax with his recent target practice mis-hap.
2. Oghobaase has a shot at being there at pick #47 [Giants via New Orleans] but Harvin won't be.

[CJSchneider]

I dont think the Lions would draft Tyson Jackson when Jason Smith is still on the board.

Being from Louisiana and seeing more than a few LSU games, I'll admit, I may be a bit higher on Jackson than your average fan.

[Turtlepower]

My thoughts on that were that:
1. I have no idea about the future of Plax with his recent target practice mis-hap.
2. Oghobaase has a shot at being there at pick #47 [Giants via New Orleans] but Harvin won't be.

Yeah, but even if we wanted to draft a WR to replace Plax, it wouldn't make any sense to draft a shifty receiver, which we already have 2 of on the roster (I'm sure we're going to resign Moss for a minimal contract cause no one else will).

[T-RICH49]

I'd prefer Orakpo

[giantsfan]

We're going to miss plax in the redzone, harvin doesn't help our redzone offense at all. I like Percy a lot and wouldn't mind the pick as a fan but I don't think it's a very good fit. We'd look for a guy like Britt slipping to the saints pick or a later round big guy like Mitchell. That said if we have a shot at DHB we can't pass, but other than I don't see a WR who'd bring something to our WR corps that's worth a first round pick.

[Don Vito]

I wouldn't be happy if the Pats traded up for Laurinitis. Vontae Davis would be ideal there, you have him on the board still. I would love if we had Kindle too.

[Gay Ork Wang]

holy **** why dont people get it?

[Turtlepower]

holy **** why dont people get it?

I would've given the Bears Brian Brohm.

[princefielder28]

Brown is gonna be a better fit in a 3-4, not a 4-3

[jCut]

Great Denver pick and trade.

[Gay Ork Wang]

I would've given the Bears Brian Brohm.
haha funny how everyone was bashing the bears for not picking him but Forte

[Babylon]

The consensus pick for Seattle, works for me.

[bored of education]

Andre Smith and Branden Albert=Jamaal Charles 19000 yards in week 1 next year.

[Matthew Jones]

If I was the Patriots I'd rather just take Mays or Selvie than trade up.

[thebow305]

Vontae is a nice Phins pick, but Michael Johnson would be nicer. :)

[PACKmanN]

I really doubt Bill lets Channing Crowder go.

[CJSchneider]

If I were Miami, who Crowder plays for, I'd tell the Bills to mind their own business.

Edit: I just re-read that. Oops - funny response though

[DiG]

hardy is a good pick for the skins. would consider jerry, marks, and jason smith there too.

[vidae]

Decent KC pick. I would prefer Orakpo there though. Our pass rush is so bad.

[marshallb]

I like the Vikings pick, but I like Moore better than Smith.

[tjsunstein]

Andre Smith and Branden Albert=Jamaal Charles 19000 yards in week 1 next year.

But they would still find a way to lose.. :)

Everette Brown like mentioned above is better fit for a 3-4 but I like him as a prospect.

[CJSchneider]

Decent KC pick. I would prefer Orakpo there though. Our pass rush is so bad.

I strongly considered that. So much so that it was at the expense of one of my teams, the 49ers.

[indyfan1985]

Dont like the Colts trading up when there are quality players at the 26th spot. I would MUCH rather have them stay put and draft DJ Moore. CB is a big need for us as well as DT and Moore could be a stud at the next level and he also helps us in the return game.

2nd round we could then target DT with someone like Evander Hood.

[TitleTown088]

I am really starting to warm up to the Brown pick for Green bay. I like it.

[BeerBaron]

CJ....NOOOO!!!

I always take your advice in my mocks...even had the Saints trade down!!

But Maclin to the Bears...its simply unforgivable!! noooooooooooo!!!!!

Hardy or even Duke or even Mays.....just no more Maclin!

[CJSchneider]

Hold up..so I can sig quote this...are you saying the Bears do not need a receiver? That the Chicago Bears, who have Devin Hester leading their team with 442 Yards Receiving after 12 games do not need a receiver? That the "Monsters of the Midway" who have Matt Forte, a Running Back, leading the team with 4 Receiving TD's do not need a receiver?

[BeerBaron]

Hold up..so I can sig quote this...are you saying the Bears do not need a receiver? That the Chicago Bears, who have Devin Hester leading their team with 442 Yards Receiving after 12 games do not need a receiver? That the "Monsters of the Midway" who have Matt Forte, a Running Back, leading the team with 4 Receiving TD's do not need a receiver?

Check just lower in my quote. Yeah, a receiver would be real nice, but we go so long between getting sacks on defense that we sometimes forget that its actually legal to tackle the opposing team's QB before he throws the ball....

Also, the receiver does no good when our o-line is as crap as it is. Williams should slot in at LT starting next year at least, so that should help, but we could use new starting guards and a new RT....

and if we must go WR, lets take someone with a little size to them. Maclin and Harvin as just such big no-no's here....they're basically what we already have in Hester but....even more raw. So take Hester and say he's one keeper....and lets add in Earl Bennett who cost us a 3rd rounder just last year, and we're good on the smallish receivers.

We're craving someone with some size...someone who can actually run a route over the middle without making everyone watching cringe just waiting for him to get pasted and busted in half. DHB and Crabtree are the only WR's to look at in the first round.

And even if you want to go the return ability route, save it. Hester hasn't been producing this year but even so, behind him we've got Dan Manning, Garrett Wolfe, Rashied Davis, Earl Bennett....probably a few others....who've all got return experience with us.

Maclin and Harvin simply wouldn't fill a need.

[diabsoule]

I know I've said all along that NO will trade down further then that, but when I started putting all the pieces in, that was the only one that made sense from both sides (Hey, I want to be right but not at the expense of being illogical).
It may be a bit of a reach for Cushing, but it does afford us another pick.

I love the trade but I'd rather Taylor Mays than Cushing.

[CJSchneider]

I love the trade but I'd rather Taylor Mays than Cushing. yeah, Taylor would be less of a reach, but OLB is our biggest need and Cushing IMO is worth it.

[regoob2]

Can you walk me throught the Maclin decission?

[BeerBaron]

Can you walk me throught the Maclin decission?

well, the following wasn't taken into consideration I guess: (;))

Check just lower in my quote. Yeah, a receiver would be real nice, but we go so long between getting sacks on defense that we sometimes forget that its actually legal to tackle the opposing team's QB before he throws the ball....

Also, the receiver does no good when our o-line is as crap as it is. Williams should slot in at LT starting next year at least, so that should help, but we could use new starting guards and a new RT....

and if we must go WR, lets take someone with a little size to them. Maclin and Harvin as just such big no-no's here....they're basically what we already have in Hester but....even more raw. So take Hester and say he's one keeper....and lets add in Earl Bennett who cost us a 3rd rounder just last year, and we're good on the smallish receivers.

We're craving someone with some size...someone who can actually run a route over the middle without making everyone watching cringe just waiting for him to get pasted and busted in half. DHB and Crabtree are the only WR's to look at in the first round.

And even if you want to go the return ability route, save it. Hester hasn't been producing this year but even so, behind him we've got Dan Manning, Garrett Wolfe, Rashied Davis, Earl Bennett....probably a few others....who've all got return experience with us.

Maclin and Harvin simply wouldn't fill a need.

[regoob2]

Hold up..so I can sig quote this...are you saying the Bears do not need a receiver? That the Chicago Bears, who have Devin Hester leading their team with 442 Yards Receiving after 12 games do not need a receiver? That the "Monsters of the Midway" who have Matt Forte, a Running Back, leading the team with 4 Receiving TD's do not need a receiver?
I love how people assume all WRs are the same.

[BeerBaron]

I love how people assume all WRs are the same.

or anyone who plays any position for that matter.....

[jackson34]

I would be very happy with Oher!

[diabsoule]

yeah, Taylor would be less of a reach, but OLB is our biggest need and Cushing IMO is worth it.

Really? I think S is far and away our biggest need.

[Menardo75]

I can't believe I am seeing you give us anything, but an OT.

[CJSchneider]

Well, I think it all hinges on what KC does. If they take Orakpo, we'll get a OT for sure. If they select an OT, I think we will grab the BPA rather then reach for an OT, unless between now and the draft there emerges a real solid 4th guy.