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The Dynasty
03-03-2007, 12:23 PM
I just saw it on Espn News Breaking News. This is heating up to be a strange thing in Tampa with 4 QB's.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
03-03-2007, 12:24 PM
Apparently Plummer is retiring, thus voiding the trade.

nyjets5125
03-03-2007, 12:27 PM
im soooo confused, i saw on espnnews that both garcia and plummer are goign to tampa, i dont think either of those qbs would want to do that, and i dont think the bucs will either because gruden still likes simms

Windy
03-03-2007, 12:27 PM
According to John Clayton he was traded. If he decides not to retire, the Broncos get a draft pick.

NGSeiler
03-03-2007, 12:29 PM
Yep, my understanding is it's an updated deal. Very interested considering the Jeff Garcia situation.

Komp
03-03-2007, 12:30 PM
how dysfunctional....

PalmerToCJ
03-03-2007, 12:32 PM
They've got a chance at Quinn with two below average starters at QB already.

So what do they do? Add two old (one obviously declining in Plummer) QB's.

I'm not so sure about this.

Chucky
03-03-2007, 12:33 PM
im confused

Chucky
03-03-2007, 12:33 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2785459

it says he is retiring

Windy
03-03-2007, 12:36 PM
Buccaneers | Team acquires Plummer
Sat, 3 Mar 2007 10:27:57 -0800

ESPNews reports the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have acquired QB Jake Plummer from the Denver Broncos for a conditional 2008 draft pick.

The Legend
03-03-2007, 12:37 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2785459

it says he is retiring

i think it means he Retired as a Bucc

Chucky
03-03-2007, 12:39 PM
heres a link http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2786694

jagsfreak27
03-03-2007, 12:41 PM
What? damn post length

Vince Lombardi
03-03-2007, 12:46 PM
Wow, this is a strange situation...

Maybe it's a deal where if Jake retires the trade is basically voided, but if he has a change of heart then Tampa will own his rights and Denver will get that pick. If so it's not too bad of a move by Tampa.

NGSeiler
03-03-2007, 12:58 PM
Wow, this is a strange situation...

Maybe it's a deal where if Jake retires the trade is basically voided, but if he has a change of heart then Tampa will own his rights and Denver will get that pick. If so it's not too bad of a move by Tampa.

That's pretty much how I understood the deal.

tjsunstein
03-03-2007, 01:01 PM
This doesnt make any sense though. Simms, Plummer, Garcia, Gradkowski? I would hope that they trade one of them.

Tampa 2 4 life
03-03-2007, 01:07 PM
The rumor is the bucs are gonna send Plummer to Houston.

ks_perfection
03-03-2007, 01:15 PM
If we somehow managed to trade for plummer and than ship him to the Texans for more than what we gave up to get him it would be a stroke of genius. If Gruden actually does keep him its aboslutly moronic, even if we didn't trade for him.

We'd end up spending close to the same amount Manning makes on our 3 medicore QBs combined.

Booger
03-03-2007, 01:18 PM
The Bucs would not keep Garcia, Plummer, and Simms. Pending the Plummer retirement, there has to be another trade in the works.

Simms perhaps???

ks_perfection
03-03-2007, 01:22 PM
If we got rid of Simms we'd be left with 2 medicore old QBs. We'd have to be in the market again for a young QB for the future. Unless there was a really good deal, it doens't make much sense to get rid of the young one and keep 2 older ones.

Vince Lombardi
03-03-2007, 01:24 PM
The Bucs would not keep Garcia, Plummer, and Simms. Pending the Plummer retirement, there has to be another trade in the works.

Simms perhaps???

You never know. Gruden loves to collect QB's. After it became obvious how poor they were at the position last year he might keep them around to raise the level of competition during training camp and then use the odd man out as trade bait if another team is in trouble at the beginning of the season.

Beans
03-03-2007, 01:29 PM
If we somehow managed to trade for plummer and than ship him to the Texans for more than what we gave up to get him it would be a stroke of genius.

Let's hope for that.

Stash
03-03-2007, 01:50 PM
Maybe the idea would be to trade Simms and then draft one of the top QB's in the first? I doubt this will actually happen, but I'm just throwing it out there.

cardsalltheway
03-03-2007, 01:56 PM
I think they're trying to do something like what the Jets did last year and get more than two guys in there to battle for the starting spot to make the other guys work harder.

Chucky
03-03-2007, 02:28 PM
heres a good article about it

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/03/03/garcia.bucs/index.html

mikehop05
03-03-2007, 02:39 PM
right now its speculated that plummer is going to oakland, via PFT

Merlin
03-03-2007, 02:50 PM
I think this is a great short term move, it's a conditional draft pick, (see the word conditional?) that means if jake decides to retire, then there is no pick.

Also, with us getting the RIGHTS to plummer, that keeps Oakland in the hunt for a QB in the draft, and it gives us a chance to TRADE Jake's rights to a team that he DOES want to play for (Houston?), assuming that he doesn't want to compete for his position here.

Ok, we'll probably be back to square one in a year or two, but a lot can happen in that time?

Caddy
03-03-2007, 03:55 PM
Sounds like Plummer to the Texans would be a good bet, provided he doesn't reitre.

ks_perfection
03-03-2007, 06:24 PM
I dont think we'll see a trade until draft day at the earliest. If Texans take day 1 QB they won't want Carr and will be happy to swap, if they don't take one its a little more up in the air.

locseti
03-03-2007, 06:37 PM
OK, Im confused. Garcia wouldnt sign with Oakland because they might draft a QB, but he'll go to Tampa where he'll have to win the QB job from Simms and/or Plummer? That doesen't make sense, I wonder what Gruden told Garica.

BlindSite
03-03-2007, 07:20 PM
Probably that the Buccs were taking Plummer to use as trade bait for the texans and that Simms hasn't exactly been spectacular in tampa.

Diehard
03-03-2007, 07:40 PM
Also, it's a lot easier to compete against the known than the unknown. If Garcia was starting in Oakland with the No. 1 overall pick of the draft sitting on the bench, you know the fans would to be screaming for the rookie to start the second the old guy had a bad game.