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The Legend
12-10-2008, 04:32 AM
Kurt Warner is a free agent at the end of the year.
Do you think he will get franchised tag?

If not I could see him making tons of money.
That much money will make him leave the Cardinals.

Bengalsrocket
12-10-2008, 04:39 AM
Isn't he 37 right now? I guess Favre is living proof that Warner is still worth paying though (not because of skill necessarily, but age).

The Legend
12-10-2008, 05:16 AM
He took his team to the playoffs. He is projected for 5000 yards and 30+TDs.
100.0 QB Ratings, 69% Compilation, 600+ Passing Attempts.
His age will get him less money but I can still see him getting a big contract.
I think he could get 15 Millions / 2 Years or 24 Millions / 3 Years.

Yatta!
12-10-2008, 06:00 AM
Anyone think he might retire? If the Cards have a playoff run or he wins the MVP then he might wanna leave on a high.

Shane P. Hallam
12-10-2008, 06:26 AM
From his comments, I doubt it.

Smooth Criminal
12-10-2008, 09:48 AM
I can see him getting a big money deal for 2-3 years somewhere.

Arizona won't pay him. They'll turn to Leinart

Geo
12-10-2008, 09:49 AM
I expect Warner to sign a very lucrative two or three-year deal, keeping him with in Arizona for the remainder of his career.

Matt Leinart is signed through 2011, it will be interesting to see what becomes of him.

Turtlepower
12-10-2008, 09:53 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if he retires. He has always been a family man first and I know that he has been very close to leaving the game for years.

EarthWindandFire
12-10-2008, 10:38 AM
If Arizona is smart (which theyv'e shown time and time again they aren't) they'll keep Warner in the desert until the end of his career. Matt Leinart, for all his talent, still isn't 100% committed in my opinion. They have a good young team with a veteran, accomplished quarterback who can play with ANYONE when he's given time and weapons. Now knowing Arizona they'll let Warner walk, trade Boldin, Leinart will flop, and Fitz will stuck in hell for the next 7 or 8 years. Let's hope for their sake they do the righ thing.

fenikz
12-10-2008, 11:12 AM
Warner will either sign the 2 Year offer that is on the table or retire, I think a lot of it will depend on Leinart and how we perform in the playoffs this year. As TP said he is a family man and in the end what ever his family thinks is best he will do.

And no Boldin is not getting traded unless its for a Franchise LT and a 1st rounder, Cards would much rather have him just play out his contract then have the backlash of the fans, he will be 32 at the end and with his style of play it hard to say if he will even be effective at the end of this contract

Menardo75
12-10-2008, 11:36 AM
It sounded like we was seriously going to consider retiring after the year and that wouldn't suprise me.

ChezPower4
12-10-2008, 01:14 PM
I can't see Arizona letting Warner go after what he's done there that last season and half. I don't think that Matt is ready to step up and be the #1 guy yet. Further more I think that the Cards coaching staff don't have as much faith in Matt as they are leading on the media.

SchizophrenicBatman
12-10-2008, 02:15 PM
I've heard and seen nothing from Ken Whisenhunt that suggests he wants Leinart QBing his team. It's not his guy, never has been, and never will be

Menardo75
12-10-2008, 03:52 PM
Not to mention Wisenhunt is not connected to Lienart.

yodabear
12-11-2008, 12:20 AM
Come back, come back, back to Jamaica, or actually St. Louis. End ur career where it started, come back and win another super bowl. VICTORY!!!!

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
12-11-2008, 12:26 AM
I expect Warner to sign a very lucrative two or three-year deal, keeping him with in Arizona for the remainder of his career.

Matt Leinart is signed through 2011, it will be interesting to see what becomes of him.
maybe leinart becomes the new Aaron rogers

stephenson86
12-11-2008, 06:21 AM
didnt he say this was his last year?

tjsunstein
12-11-2008, 09:18 AM
I think he retires after next year. By the sounds of it he wants to be in Arizona to end his career and the team pretty much has to attempt to bring him back after this year unless Leinart has shown something behind the scenes.

CashmoneyDrew
12-11-2008, 09:33 AM
Come back, come back, back to Jamaica, or actually St. Louis. End ur career where it started, come back and win another super bowl. VICTORY!!!!

He'd literally die on the field behind that offensive line.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
12-11-2008, 10:11 AM
He'd literally die on the field behind that offensive line.

yea kurt warner would look like joey harrington on the lions hit every play

Addict
12-11-2008, 10:33 AM
maybe leinart becomes the new Aaron rogers

except Rodgers was stuck behind a future hall of famer, three time MVP, team monument and a legend of the game, while Leinart is stuck behind Kurt Warner, who won 2 mvp awards because he was QB for the Greatest Show on Turf.

It's really not the same thing, and I'm trying to see your logic since I really liked Leinart coming out.

MarioPalmer
12-11-2008, 12:30 PM
My question is this, if he does leave Arizona how well will he play well away from one of the most talented offensive groups in the NFL? If he goes to say the Chiefs, just for argument sake, will he be anywhere near as good production wise as he was this year?

I say no, no way in hell does he put up any where near the same numbers. Boldin and Fitz YAC has been 1000 yards of his passing while Boldin's YAC is 54% of his total receiving yards and Fitz' is 34% of his total yards. Not to mention that the O-Line has become an incrediable strong suit, while Tim Hightower has become one of the biggest steals in the 2008 draft. And let's not forget about a defense that can keep the Cards in games.

Warner, to me, is finished, this is his last horah. I don't get the hype and love for him other than that he still fits the "underdog" storyline. Against good defenses he has been shredded. The Jets and Giants games along with games like the 49ers have made Warner look like the Warner we all know he really is behind that awesome talent in Arizona.

I'm not saying the Cards should say Leinart is their guy, because I don't have much confidence in him, but for Warner to leave Arizona for anywhere else would seem like a suicide attempt. He doesn't have, nor did he ever have the physical skills and total confidence when things got rough to carry a struggling or up and coming franchise. Once the pressure gets to him he falls apart, just like his last 2 years in St.Louis and his year in New York. And in St.Louis they went to the NFC Championship just 2 years later, so it wasn't them being bad that made Warner bad. He totally fell apart and now you think he will get this large lucrative contract that would suggest that a NFL team would rely on him?

We have to remember that the NFL is the NFL, this is the same league that will cut a MVP player 2 years after he won it, the same league that won't resign a MVDP like Haynesworth when he was widely considered the best defensive player in the league, the same league that won't resign guys like Asante Samuel or out right cut guys like Keyshawn Johnson. This league is always and always has been ahead of the curve, just because Warner puts up Pro-Bowl numbers this year doesn't mean he will next season.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
12-11-2008, 12:35 PM
except Rodgers was stuck behind a future hall of famer, three time MVP, team monument and a legend of the game, while Leinart is stuck behind Kurt Warner, who won 2 mvp awards because he was QB for the Greatest Show on Turf.

It's really not the same thing, and I'm trying to see your logic since I really liked Leinart coming out.

yea i did not believe what i said i was just throwing it out there lol

Brodeur
12-11-2008, 12:45 PM
maybe leinart becomes the new Aaron rogers

Maybe if Leinart gets Tommy John surgery.

CC.SD
12-11-2008, 01:20 PM
except Rodgers was stuck behind a future hall of famer, three time MVP, team monument and a legend of the game, while Leinart is stuck behind Kurt Warner, who won 2 mvp awards because he was QB for the Greatest Show on Turf.

It's really not the same thing, and I'm trying to see your logic since I really liked Leinart coming out.

I liked Matty a lot coming out too (trojan alum) but I still can't let this Warner dis pass. Kurt wasn't just coincidentally the QB for the greatest show on turf...he and Martz built the thing from the ground up! His skills and production as a QB aren't random. Going from grocery bagman to Hall of Famer (yes, he'll make it) qualifies him as a legend of the game IMO and Matt needs to spend his off time recapturing his dedication (and a tight spiral) if he wants to be the next Aaron Rodgers.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
12-11-2008, 01:31 PM
I liked Matty a lot coming out too (trojan alum) but I still can't let this Warner dis pass. Kurt wasn't just coincidentally the QB for the greatest show on turf...he and Martz built the thing from the ground up! His skills and production as a QB aren't random. Going from grocery bagman to Hall of Famer (yes, he'll make it) qualifies him as a legend of the game IMO and Matt needs to spend his off time recapturing his dedication (and a tight spiral) if he wants to be the next Aaron Rodgers.

yea leinart wants to be a diva but he needs to be how ryan is a gym junkie. he also needs to start brown nosing warner so he can get some tips its good to sit behind a vet QB but if you are not attempting to learn anything its just a waste of time

MarioPalmer
12-11-2008, 02:13 PM
I liked Matty a lot coming out too (trojan alum) but I still can't let this Warner dis pass. Kurt wasn't just coincidentally the QB for the greatest show on turf...he and Martz built the thing from the ground up! His skills and production as a QB aren't random. Going from grocery bagman to Hall of Famer (yes, he'll make it) qualifies him as a legend of the game IMO and Matt needs to spend his off time recapturing his dedication (and a tight spiral) if he wants to be the next Aaron Rodgers.

No, actually Martz didn't build that, Saunders did, Martz was the second OC and the most valuable players on the Rams were, Faulk, Pace, Bruce, Holt, Bly, Winstrom, Carter then Warner. The same team with Trent Green would have done the samething. No doubt, so please don't say that Warner built this offense, he fell into it, and when he was asked to lead an up and coming group he failed, the Gaints experiment was a diasaster just like the last 2 years he was with the Rams. He didn't have the same impactful players on the team like he did during the "The Show" years and the team relyed on him much more, yet he fell apart and was a complete bust as a high price resignee.

When the Rams lost Bly, Fletcher, Carter and the bad 3 years of draft picks it made Warner have to be a franchise QB able to take control of a situation and succeed. Yet he couldn't, and was finally cut for a 6th rounder who the Rams had traded for with the Saints, and Marc Bulger, who was always favored over Warner by Martz, led that same group of players that Warner couldn't lead back to the NFC Championship.

Warner is an excellent situation for a QB, could you imagine if Palmer, Rothlisberger, Cutler, Manning and Brady were in his shoes? The stats would be outragous. So let's not make Warner some type of hero just because he fell into another great situation. During his days in St.Louis he had 4 Hall of Fame players on his side of the ball. Holt, Bruce, Faulk and Pace were all the real heavy lifters of the Greatest Show on Turf, not Warner. I have hard time believing that if he were in Carolina, Tampa Bay, Tennessee, Baltimore, or Chicago I have a hard time believing he would be anywhere near as efficient and succesful.

TheGM
12-24-2008, 08:49 PM
Kurt Warner is a hall of famer. I'm not saying he is the greatest to ever play the game but show some respect he won a supper bowl and has put up awesome numbers of the course of his career. His performance this year put him over the top IMO. As fas as his future is concerned he will retire he has nothing left to prove. In addition I think the Cards are going to get Matt Cassel, he is young, has starting experience, and couldn't have been coached any better.

Splat
02-20-2009, 07:32 PM
Warner to return in 2009 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txcardinalswarner&prov=st&type=lgns)

Menardo75
02-28-2009, 01:56 AM
Rumors of him ending up with us I doubt it happens though.