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CashmoneyDrew
12-13-2008, 07:28 PM
I figured that this thread worked out really well this time last year, so why not have another? I've already seen a couple of threads on guys who have declared that didn't really deserve their own threads. This is a great way to make sure that the draft sub-forum isn't flooded with these types of threads for the next month.

So if you have an official link to a player declaring for the draft, post it here. I'll try to keep the main post updated with every player that declares. If you see that I'm missing anyone, just let me know.

Quarterback
-Josh Freeman, Kansas State- http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3804400
-Matt Stafford, Georgia- http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=3815504
-Nate Davis, Ball State- http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=3830190
-Mark Sanchez, USC- http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,1474049.story

Runningback
-Shonn Greene, Iowa- http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=290012294
-Donald Brown, Connecticut- http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/11220288
-Knowshon Moreno, Georgia- http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=3815504
-P.J. Hill, Wisconsin- http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/article/20090108/WDH0101/90108091/1981
-Chris Wells, Ohio State- http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=3819447
-Lesean McCoy, Pittsburgh- http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/college/s_606286.html
-Glen Coffee, Alabama- http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2009/01/...e_to_ente.html
-Mike Goodson, Texas A&M- http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true
-Asaph Schwapp, Notre Dame- http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/2009_nfl_draft_early_entry_update.html
-Ernest Robinson, Virginia Union- http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/2009_nfl_draft_early_entry_update.html

Wide Receiver
-Kenny Britt, Rutgers- http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2009/01/rutgers_wr_kenny_britt.html
-Hakeem Nicks, North Carolina- http://www2.journalnow.com/content/2009/jan/05/nicks-leaving-unc-enter-nfl-draft/
-Kevin Ogletree, Virginia- http://www.dailyprogress.com/cdp/spo...al_year/33756/
-Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland- http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=3816764
-Austin Collie, BYU- http://www.sltrib.com/sports/ci_11411777
-Jeremy Maclin, Missouri- http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2009/...uri-Maclin.php
-Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech- http://www.redraiders.com/2009/01/09/techs-crabtree-to-enter-nfl-draft/
-Andrew Means, Indiana- http://blogs.heraldtimesonline.com/iusp/?p=2836
-Jeremy Childs, Boise State- http://www.2news.tv/news/37530514.html
-Brian Hartline, Ohio State- http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html
-Percy Harvin, Florida- http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3835065
-T.J. Williams, Valdosta State- http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/2009_nfl_draft_early_entry_update.html
-John Halman, Concordia- http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/2009_nfl_draft_early_entry_update.html

Tight End
-Andrew Davie, Arkansas- http://nwanews.com/nwat/Sports/72005/
-James Casey, Rice- http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6195366.html
-Jared Cook, South Carolina- http://www.thestate.com/gogamecocks/story/642823.html
-Richard Quinn, North Carolina- http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Extras/2008/early010509.htm
-Carson Butler, Michigan- http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true
-Cameron Morrah, California- http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true

Offensive Tackle
-Eben Britton, Arizona- http://www.azstarnet.com/sports/274344
-Andre Smith, Alabama- http://www.wsfa.com/Global/story.asp?S=9612638&nav=menu33_2

Offensive Guard
-Greg Isdaner, West Virginia- http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09009/940875-100.stm
-Cameron Young, Tyler JC- http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/2009_nfl_draft_early_entry_update.html

Defensive Tackle
-Sen'Derrick Marks, Auburn- http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3799449
-Ricky Jean-Francois, LSU- http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3804487
-Chris Baker, Hampton- http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/2009_nfl_draft_early_entry_update.html
-Vaughn Martin, Western Ontario- http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/2009_nfl_draft_early_entry_update.html
-J.D. Skoltnisky, James Madison- http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/2009_nfl_draft_early_entry_update.html

Defensive End
-Everette Brown, Florida State- http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...e=NFLHeadlines
-Aaron Maybin, Penn State- http://pennstate.scout.com/2/828762.html
-Paul Kruger, Utah- http://www.standard.net/live/news/161077/
-Brandon Williams, Texas Tech- http://www.redraiders.com/2009/01/12...t-preparation/
-Maurice Evans, Penn State- http://pennstate.scout.com/2/829852.html

Linebacker
-Gerald McRath, Southern Mississippi- http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/2009_nfl_draft_early_entry_update.html

Cornerback
-Vontae Davis, Illinois- http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=3787263
-D.J. Moore, Vanderbilt- http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090101/SPORTS0602/901010355/1002
-Captain Munnerlyn, South Carolina- http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3804333
-James Williams, Southern Connecticut- http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Extras/2008/early010509.htm
-Jerraud Powers, Auburn- http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2009/01/...s_says_he.html
-Sean Smith, Utah- http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?se...CF&eid=3828057
-Asher Allen, Georgia- http://georgia.scout.com/2/829910.html
-Donald Washington, Ohio State- http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/Vie...ATCLID=3647173
-Jairus Byrd, Oregon- http://myespn.go.com/blogs/pac10/0-6...NFL-draft.html
-Braelon Davis, West Texas A&M- http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/2009_nfl_draft_early_entry_update.html
-Tupo Fuaau, Washington State- http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/2009_nfl_draft_early_entry_update.html

Safety
-Emanuel Cook, South Carolina- http://www.thestate.com/591/story/637589.html
-Brandon Echols, Georgia Southern- http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/2009_nfl_draft_early_entry_update.html

Kicker
-Merf Trout, Graceland Iowa- http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/2009_nfl_draft_early_entry_update.html

Hines
12-16-2008, 10:56 PM
South Carolina safety Emmanuel Cook is expected to declare.

http://www.thestate.com/591/story/623553.html

Turtlepower
12-16-2008, 10:57 PM
Is this the beginning of South Carolina losing its entire defense?

Hines
12-16-2008, 11:02 PM
Is this the beginning of South Carolina losing its entire defense?

I would think so. Munnerlyn, Cook, Brinkley, and Norwood. South Carolina is losing a lot of talent this year if the underclassman decide to come out. But, they will be getting even more talent in their recruiting class.

Turtlepower
12-16-2008, 11:04 PM
I would think so. Munnerlyn, Cook, Brinkley, and Norwood. South Carolina is losing a lot of talent this year if the underclassman decide to come out. But, they will be getting even more talent in their recruiting class.

Spurrier has done a pretty crappy job in developing that talent...

CashmoneyDrew
12-17-2008, 12:19 AM
I'll add Cook when it's 100% official. Same thing with Carson Butler.

Cigaro
12-17-2008, 04:09 PM
I would think so. Munnerlyn, Cook, Brinkley, and Norwood. South Carolina is losing a lot of talent this year if the underclassman decide to come out. But, they will be getting even more talent in their recruiting class.

Norwood's staying. Brinkley is a sure gone, and Cook and Munnerlyn are bound to follow.

I'll add Cook when it's 100% official. Same thing with Carson Butler.

He hasn't been to class for weeks. What else do you need?

CashmoneyDrew
12-17-2008, 05:02 PM
He hasn't been to class for weeks. What else do you need?

A link that says he's officially declared, not probably.

jnew76
12-17-2008, 05:09 PM
A link that says he's officially declared, not probably.

Not 100%, but Spurrier is quoted as saying Cook has likely played his last game at South Carolina.

http://www.thestate.com/591/story/623553.html

CashmoneyDrew
12-17-2008, 05:10 PM
Not 100%, but Spurrier is quoted as saying Cook has likely played his last game at South Carolina.

http://www.thestate.com/591/story/623553.html

See, that's why I'm not putting him in yet. Anything can happen.

Cigaro
12-17-2008, 05:41 PM
See, that's why I'm not putting him in yet. Anything can happen.

Well if he doesn't declare, he's basically been kicked off the team and won't be academically eligible for next year unless the administration can pull a rabbit out of a hat.

M.O.T.H.
12-18-2008, 03:32 PM
Norwood's staying. Brinkley is a sure gone, and Cook and Munnerlyn are bound to follow.

Norwood may go, depends on the grade he gets back obviously but, there is a chance he may be gone as well.

Cap and the Cooks' are surely gone.

Captain should come back, though if he was smart.

SuperKevin
12-19-2008, 08:07 AM
Nothings official but the following underclassmen are said to be leaning heavily towards declaring

CJ Spiller RB Clemson
Andre Smith OT Alabama
Josh Freeman QB Kansas State
Shonn Greene RB Iowa
Percy Harvin WR Florida
Brandon Spikes MLB Florida
Jermaine Cunningham DE Florida
Everette Brown DE Florida State
Vontae Davis CB Illinois
Rico McCoy LB Tennessee
Dan Williams DT Tennessee
Taylor Mays S USC
Sen'Derrick Marks DT Auburn
Captain Munnerlyn CB South Carolina
Jared Cook TE South Carolina
Emmanuel Cook S South Carolina

Geo
12-19-2008, 10:00 AM
Makes a lot of sense for Marks, he's been a three-year starter at Auburn and doesn't have any hope for an SEC championship to come back to given the current state of the team.

I know Geno Atkins is probably a 2nd round pick at this point, but is it really worth it to go back to Georgia? Yes, he'll play alongside Jeff Owens again, but with Stafford and Moreno both likely to declare, and Massaquoi graduating, that offense is going to be bad next year - which really hurts his chances of working himself up to a first round tackle.

MaxV
12-19-2008, 10:45 AM
Where would you guys project Tennessee's DT Dan Williams, if he does declare?

princefielder28
12-19-2008, 10:52 AM
Where would you guys project Tennessee's DT Dan Williams, if he does declare?

He's a mid round round prospect at this point. He should return to school and see if he can excel in Lane's, or Monte's, defense and raise his stock.

CashmoneyDrew
12-19-2008, 10:53 AM
Rico McCoy and Dan Williams need to stay. They could heavily improve their stock with another year IMO.

MaxV, I'd say Dan Williams is probably a mid-3rd to mid-4th rounder at this point. He's not the biggest guy, but he's a constant disruptor and is stout against the run and can get after the quarterback fairly well. He's also blocked a few kicks on special teams the past couple of years.

SuperKevin
12-19-2008, 10:54 AM
Where would you guys project Tennessee's DT Dan Williams, if he does declare?

I think he'll declare because the Senior talent at DT is pretty weak. With that said I think he'll slide in somewhere around the 4th or 5th DT spot behind Jerry, Raji, Sen'Derrick Marks(if he declares), and possibly Fili Moala. That would probably put him around the mid/late round 2 area.

Scott Wright
12-19-2008, 12:20 PM
Nothings official but the following underclassmen are said to be leaning heavily towards declaring

CJ Spiller RB Clemson
Andre Smith OT Alabama
Josh Freeman QB Kansas State
Shonn Greene RB Iowa
Percy Harvin WR Florida
Brandon Spikes MLB Florida
Jermaine Cunningham DE Florida
Everette Brown DE Florida State
Vontae Davis CB Illinois
Rico McCoy LB Tennessee
Dan Williams DT Tennessee
Taylor Mays S USC
Sen'Derrick Marks DT Auburn
Captain Munnerlyn CB South Carolina
Jared Cook TE South Carolina
Emmanuel Cook S South Carolina

The source on this is my buddies over at DraftDaddy.com

SuperKevin
12-19-2008, 12:21 PM
The source on this is my buddies over at DraftDaddy.com

Yeah the only reason I left that out was i wasn't sure if it violated the rules here

Jonny
12-20-2008, 01:40 AM
I'm surprised that list didn't include Kenny Britt. He's 99% certain to declare.

Awesome player too. I hope people keep overlooking him because he'd be perfect on the Giants.

Smokey Joe
12-20-2008, 12:22 PM
Kenny Britt is the man. I think he will jump up to top 20 after his combine/pro day. Some team is bound to fall in love with him.

619
12-20-2008, 12:34 PM
I feel the same way for Raji although I think he's probably already worked his way into the top 20. I was kinda hoping one of Raji or Britt would be available in the early second once the Raiders are on the clock but it's looking less likely now.

Jonny
12-20-2008, 05:45 PM
Yeah, Raji's awesome too, not sure why so many don't see him as a first. He's a senior though.

Hines
12-21-2008, 11:44 AM
http://voipservices.tmcnet.com/news/2008/12/20/3870870.htm

CJ Gable is considering and should come out for the draft.

CashmoneyDrew
12-21-2008, 11:48 AM
http://voipservices.tmcnet.com/news/2008/12/20/3870870.htm

CJ Gable is considering and should come out for the draft.

If he does come out, I hope for his sake that he runs better than that 4.65 that guy posted earlier.

Smokey Joe
12-21-2008, 01:03 PM
One of CJ Gable or Stafon Johnson will come out, IMO.

Menardo75
12-21-2008, 07:43 PM
Gable needs to stay and play safety. Johnson should probably stay too depending on who comes out in the draft.

JRTPlaya21
12-22-2008, 11:24 AM
Vontae Davis to declare.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=3787263

drowe
12-22-2008, 12:03 PM
Vontae Davis to declare.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=3787263

awesome! the first significant early entry declaration. fun time of year.

bulldog0123
12-22-2008, 12:34 PM
vontae davis is severely overrated

iBoldin
12-22-2008, 12:41 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=3787263

Illinois junior cornerback Vontae Davis will forgo his final year of eligibility and enter the 2009 NFL draft.

The two-time first-team All-Big Ten selection could be the first cornerback selected in April's draft. Davis' older brother, Vernon, plays tight end for the San Francisco 49ers.

OneToughGame
12-22-2008, 12:44 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=3787263

I'm sure everyone knew this was coming. He'll be a 1st round pick so why not declare now lol.

bulldog0123
12-22-2008, 12:45 PM
like i said in the other thread vontae is way overrated

Babylon
12-22-2008, 12:46 PM
Shocker. I wonder if his brother's less than stellar career so far will influence scouts at all? shouldn't.

Vikes99ej
12-22-2008, 12:47 PM
http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27823

SeanTaylorRIP
12-22-2008, 12:50 PM
I still think Vontae will be a big time corner.

sbh15
12-22-2008, 01:35 PM
I didn't know Vernon was his brother... that's one hell of a talented football family.

And yeah, there's zero surprise here. He could be a top ten pick when all is said and done, depending on where Malcolm Jenkins goes, so this is a good move.

Don Vito
12-22-2008, 01:37 PM
Vontae Davis needs to fall to the Pats.

CashmoneyDrew
12-22-2008, 02:45 PM
vontae davis is severely overrated

like i said in the other thread vontae is way overrated

What are you talking about? This is the same thread.

JRTPlaya21
12-22-2008, 02:58 PM
What are you talking about? This is the same thread.

He wrote the same comment in both the early entires thread and the Vontae Davis declare thread.

SuperKevin
12-22-2008, 03:23 PM
I think he'll test off the charts at the Combine but I think he has at least 2 years of nickel/dime CB work before he'll be ready to step into the starting lineup. I feel if you force him into the starting lineup as a rookie you'll have another Ahmad Carroll

Matthew Jones
12-22-2008, 05:35 PM
The Patriots shouldn't draft Vontae Davis. He's a great talent but he wasn't even in the starting lineup all year for Illinois - he got benched because he couldn't produce (or rather, keep wide receivers from producing, I guess.) They have four young corners in Hobbs, Wheatley, Wilhite, and Richardson that have varying degrees of promise and cornerbacks seem to be pretty easy to find later on. They've had success getting defensive backs in the middle rounds (Samuel, Hobbs, Sanders, etc.), so why not go that route again? I'd prefer something else in the draft.

Hines
12-22-2008, 06:04 PM
If Davis fell to Pittsburgh, I would use a first rounder on him in a heart beat. He has shut down ability. He is the perfect fit for Pittsburgh if we lose McFadden. He is inconsistant, but I think he quit after he found out his team wasnt going anywhere and he didnt want to risk his pro stock by getting hurt.

JRTPlaya21
12-22-2008, 11:36 PM
Vince Oghobaase to return

http://duke.scout.com/2/823920.html

Geo
12-22-2008, 11:42 PM
I wish him a great season and look forward to seeing him eligible in the '10 Draft.

JRTPlaya21
12-23-2008, 01:29 PM
Arthur Jones to return

http://www.suathletics.com/News/Football/2008/12/23/fbjonesreturns.asp?path=football

SuperKevin
12-23-2008, 01:30 PM
Arthur Jones to return

http://www.suathletics.com/News/Football/2008/12/23/fbjonesreturns.asp?path=football

That's really shocking to me as he was probably a fringe 1st rounder despite playing at Syracuse. He must have really loved what Doug Marrone is selling

JRTPlaya21
12-25-2008, 01:25 PM
Garrett Graham to return

http://www.bigtennetwork.com/sports/football/story.asp?list_id=12&story_id=3182560

Race for the Heisman
12-25-2008, 02:20 PM
Garrett Graham to return

http://www.bigtennetwork.com/sports/football/story.asp?list_id=12&story_id=3182560

He would have been a fourth round steal had he come out.

SuperKevin
12-26-2008, 12:38 PM
LSU WR Brandon LaFell got a 1st/2nd round projection. I bet he comes out now

Scott Wright
12-26-2008, 12:53 PM
LSU WR Brandon LaFell got a 1st/2nd round projection. I bet he comes out now

I really like LaFell. The Dwayne Bowe comparisons are right on.

Cigaro
12-26-2008, 01:14 PM
1st/2nd round projection- does that mean late first, early second round pick, or you could end up anywhere in those rounds ranging from first overall to sixty fourth?

Scott Wright
12-26-2008, 01:53 PM
The panel is usually pretty conservative with their projections so if he got a 1 / 2 grade that is pretty good.

I would probably put him in that same range this year.

CashmoneyDrew
12-26-2008, 02:12 PM
A new guy for the Titans to get in mocks instead of Harvin possibly?

Race for the Heisman
12-26-2008, 03:51 PM
A new guy for the Titans to get in mocks instead of Harvin possibly?

Him or Britt. They're fighting for the that fourth/fifth receiver sport after Crabtree, Maclin, and DHB.

Cigaro
12-26-2008, 04:02 PM
Nah, it's still likely going to be Harvin, primarily because of his combine.

SuperKevin
12-26-2008, 04:08 PM
NC State RS Soph LB Nate Irving is very strongly considering declaring for the draft for family reasons. Probably no higher than a 3rd round pick but seems like he needs the money
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/story/436365.html

Cigaro
12-26-2008, 04:17 PM
Nate Irving is a rising star. Won't be picked high if he does declare this season, but will be a good player in my opinion. If the Panthers didn't have 5000 linebackers, I'd want him here.

The article did say Tom O'Brien didn't report him as asking for a draft grade, though.

Hines
12-26-2008, 11:25 PM
Tomorrow might be Hakeem Nicks' last game at North Carolina:

http://www.gastongazette.com/sports/nicks_28605___article.html/charlotte_dunk.html


I like his triangle numbers. If he runs well at the combine, could he jump into the first round status?

CashmoneyDrew
12-26-2008, 11:39 PM
Tomorrow might be Hakeem Nicks' last game at North Carolina:

http://www.gastongazette.com/sports/nicks_28605___article.html/charlotte_dunk.html


I like his triangle numbers. If he runs well at the combine, could he jump into the first round status?

Well the Titans will hopefully take a long hard look at him.

Cigaro
12-26-2008, 11:44 PM
Tomorrow might be Hakeem Nicks' last game at North Carolina:

http://www.gastongazette.com/sports/nicks_28605___article.html/charlotte_dunk.html


I like his triangle numbers. If he runs well at the combine, could he jump into the first round status?

Status yes, but he'll still likely end up a second rounder. I really like though, and if he'd stay, he's a guaranteed first rounder in my opinion.

etk
12-27-2008, 10:05 AM
NC State RS Soph LB Nate Irving is very strongly considering declaring for the draft for family reasons. Probably no higher than a 3rd round pick but seems like he needs the money
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/story/436365.html

That one tackle he made where he ragdolled the guy 15 yards was ridiculous. He can add a lot to his frame too.

Tomorrow might be Hakeem Nicks' last game at North Carolina:

http://www.gastongazette.com/sports/nicks_28605___article.html/charlotte_dunk.html


I like his triangle numbers. If he runs well at the combine, could he jump into the first round status?

If all the underclassmen come out, I'll probably have him at #3/4 on my rankings. I like him a lot better than DHB.

Cigaro
12-27-2008, 12:05 PM
South Carolina junior cornerback Captain Munnerlyn is leaning toward leaving school early for the NFL, sources familiar with his situation are saying. "I don't know what he's going to do," said USC cornerbacks coach Shane Beamer, who's trying, for now, to keep Munnerlyn focused on Outback Bowl opponent Iowa and not the pros. "At the proper time, if he wants to explore his options, we'll help him and give him the best information we can. We'll help him come to a good decision."

Really stupid move on his part, at least in my opinion. He already had knocks on his size, he's got cramping problems because he loves fried chicken, and he was thrown to, with success, all season long, and can often lose his composure.

etk
12-27-2008, 02:55 PM
Really stupid move on his part, at least in my opinion. He already had knocks on his size, he's got cramping problems because he loves fried chicken, and he was thrown to, with success, all season long, and can often lose his composure.

Seriously, i lol'd.

Size knocks? Size is overrated for a CB, and he's well built and strong. Height is a nice thing to have, but the reality is that taller corners are usually less quick and explosive.

Race for the Heisman
12-27-2008, 04:36 PM
Seriously, i lol'd.

Size knocks? Size is overrated for a CB, and he's well built and strong. Height is a nice thing to have, but the reality is that taller corners are usually less quick and explosive.

I agree, he's what 5'9-ish? That's fine by me.

Cigaro
12-27-2008, 06:34 PM
Seriously, i lol'd.

Size knocks? Size is overrated for a CB, and he's well built and strong. Height is a nice thing to have, but the reality is that taller corners are usually less quick and explosive.

Well he's about 5-9, probably 180. Not the greatest. He is quite fast though.

But as the story goes, sometime after he returned from Chicago where he had been told that his cramping problem (he cramped nearly every game) was caused by eating lots of fried food, he was caught in the locker room with one of those bowls of fried chicken.

Smokey Joe
12-27-2008, 06:37 PM
Really stupid move on his part, at least in my opinion. He already had knocks on his size, he's got cramping problems because he loves fried chicken, and he was thrown to, with success, all season long, and can often lose his composure.
Honestly, who doesn't?

etk
12-27-2008, 10:25 PM
Well he's about 5-9, probably 180. Not the greatest. He is quite fast though.

But as the story goes, sometime after he returned from Chicago where he had been told that his cramping problem (he cramped nearly every game) was caused by eating lots of fried food, he was caught in the locker room with one of those bowls of fried chicken.

Cramping is usually caused by lack of hydration in the days prior to the game. I know I used to cramp all the time during games in the summer, but not in the past 2 years when I took hydration more seriously.

Cigaro
12-27-2008, 10:28 PM
Cramping is usually caused by lack of hydration in the days prior to the game. I know I used to cramp all the time during games in the summer, but not in the past 2 years when I took hydration more seriously.

Well wherever he went in Chicago determined it was the high amount of fried foods that was his specific problem.

etk
12-27-2008, 10:37 PM
I'll trust those doctors over the trainers I've dealt with, but that's an interesting idea. I'm gonna ask about that next time. Fried foods aren't good for anybody, but how do they affect cramping? I'd like to find out.

draftguru151
12-27-2008, 10:43 PM
High amounts of salt is the only thing I can think of.

foozball
12-27-2008, 10:54 PM
you have to excrete those salts...when salt leaves the body, water is soon to follow. hence you have dehydration

Geo
12-30-2008, 01:56 AM
Auburn defensive lineman Sen'Derrick Marks will enter the Draft. (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3799449)

Good move, he's proven himself as a three-year starter at Auburn. Although I think his height (and maybe even his weight in tandem) will hurt him a bit, it is what it is though so he might as well come out now.

Race for the Heisman
12-30-2008, 02:09 AM
Auburn defensive lineman Sen'Derrick Marks will enter the Draft. (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3799449)

Good move, he's proven himself as a three-year starter at Auburn. Although I think his height (and maybe even his weight in tandem) will hurt him a bit, it is what it is though so he might as well come out now.

I wonder if his declaration will have any impact on Antonio Coleman.

ThePudge
12-30-2008, 02:12 AM
Nice to see Marks throw his hat into the ring. One of the top DT prospects in this draft, should make things more interesting.

wicket
12-30-2008, 03:35 AM
is there a site where you can see the draft stock advisory commitee's projections on prospects? (sorry sniper there is bound to be a spelling error in there somewhere ;))

Geo
12-30-2008, 09:54 AM
I don't believe there is such a site/collection of what's been publically confirmed through the year about advisory grades. That info is usually known by only the player or by the player and his college coach(es), so it's not often disclosed to the media - especially when the grade isn't very high.

I wonder if his declaration will have any impact on Antonio Coleman.
The last part of that article:

Marks said junior defensive lineman Antonio Coleman might be following him to the NFL. He said he was told that Coleman will hold his own new conference at his high school later in the week.

Race for the Heisman
12-30-2008, 11:09 AM
I don't believe there is such a site/collection of what's been publically confirmed through the year about advisory grades. That info is usually known by only the player or by the player and his college coach(es), so it's not often disclosed to the media - especially when the grade isn't very high.


The last part of that article:

Alright, maybe next time I'll actually read the article. I just kind of assumed it would be an thing saying he formally declared, some kind of projection, and a mention of past honors/statistics.

Geo
12-30-2008, 02:27 PM
Marks said he believed he would be a Day 1 pick, but acknowledged that he was making his decision before receiving any feedback from the NFL advisory committee.link (http://blog.al.com/auburnbeat/2008/12/family_prayer_convinces_marks.html)

I'd agree with that assessment.

jnew76
12-30-2008, 02:59 PM
A couple of other draft sites are confirming Andre Smith has officially signed with an agent and will announce his intentions to go pro very soon. Will not link the articles, as they are from other sites. Should be on a sports site shortly.

Hines
12-30-2008, 03:01 PM
A couple of other draft sites are confirming Andre Smith has officially signed with an agent and will announce his intentions to go pro very soon. Will not link the articles, as they are from other sites. Should be on a sports site shortly.

DraftDaddy.com has it, so in that case, it is ok to post it.

underscore
12-30-2008, 04:23 PM
There are strong ruminations that both of PSU's starting DEs, Maurice Evans (great soph season, but off the field issues this year) and Aaron Maybin (classic tweener at this stage) are both going to declare after the Rose Bowl

Hines
12-30-2008, 04:26 PM
There are strong ruminations that both of PSU's starting DEs, Maurice Evans (great soph season, but off the field issues this year) and Aaron Maybin (classic tweener at this stage) are both going to declare after the Rose Bowl

Link please.

underscore
12-30-2008, 05:05 PM
http://pennstate.scout.com/2/825770.html

http://www.altoonamirror.com/page/content.detail/id/514634.html

Both links show evasive answers about the draft. Both have had run-ins with Paterno. Also other non-linkable stuff I've heard as well.

SuperKevin
12-30-2008, 05:08 PM
There are strong ruminations that both of PSU's starting DEs, Maurice Evans (great soph season, but off the field issues this year) and Aaron Maybin (classic tweener at this stage) are both going to declare after the Rose Bowl

If thats true then Penn State should enjoy their Big 10 title while it lasts because it won't happen again in 2009

Scott Wright
12-30-2008, 09:49 PM
Maybin is a first rounder if he comes out but Evans...

Let's just say Maurice should call up Justin King and get some advice.

Matthew Jones
12-30-2008, 09:55 PM
Could Andre Smith have been suspended for signing with an agent?

SuperKevin
12-30-2008, 09:57 PM
Could Andre Smith have been suspended for signing with an agent?

We already learned that yesterday

Cigaro
12-31-2008, 06:08 PM
D.J. Moore declares via interview with ESPN reporter at end of Music City Bowl.

coordinator0
12-31-2008, 06:09 PM
D.J. Moore declares via interview with ESPN reporter at end of Music City Bowl.

You beat me too it lol. I kinda like it, this gives the Ravens more options at the end of the first round...

Hines
12-31-2008, 06:20 PM
Munneryln was told that he would be drafted in the first 3 rounds if he came out.

keylime_5
12-31-2008, 06:23 PM
Some say DJ Moore will be the 2nd corner drafted.

Cigaro
12-31-2008, 06:26 PM
Supposedly Munnerlyn has had second thoughts about declaring. He was a practical lock after the Clemson lost, but apparently he has talked to his dad and is considering coming back.

If he got that grade, however, I don't see him staying.

Turtlepower
01-01-2009, 10:55 AM
Some say DJ Moore will be the 2nd corner drafted.

He should be, but he probably won't measure out like some of the other CBs, so it could slide him to the early part of round 2.

SuperKevin
01-01-2009, 01:43 PM
Former Penn State and current Hampton DT Chris Baker got a 4th round grade and is going to make a decision about coming out in a few days

SuperKevin
01-01-2009, 01:45 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=290012294

Early in the article it says Iowa RB Shonn Greene told Joe Schad he's declaring for the draft

CashmoneyDrew
01-01-2009, 01:50 PM
1st page has been updated with Shonn Greene and a link for D.J. Moore.

MaxV
01-01-2009, 01:54 PM
Former Penn State and current Hampton DT Chris Baker got a 4th round grade and is going to make a decision about coming out in a few days

Off-field problems will knock his stock down significantly.

SuperKevin
01-01-2009, 01:56 PM
Off-field problems will knock his stock down significantly.

It's probably why he got a 4th round grade. The projections are coming from scouts who take that stuff into account

keylime_5
01-01-2009, 02:21 PM
Shonn Greene declares for the draft after the Outback Bowl beating of the Gamecocks per the ESPN ticker....What a year he had, 100+ yds every game. I would love to have him in round 2 or so.

MaxV
01-01-2009, 02:32 PM
It's probably why he got a 4th round grade. The projections are coming from scouts who take that stuff into account

I'm not sure if Baker would've been a Day 1 pick before the off-field trouble.

draftcutlermiami730
01-01-2009, 03:01 PM
Eric Norwood and Captain Munnerlyn have declared

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3804333

Race for the Heisman
01-01-2009, 03:05 PM
Eric Norwood and Captain Munnerlyn have declared

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3804333

Steals for someone since neither will go that high.

Hines
01-01-2009, 03:41 PM
I love Norwood and think he would fit well in Pittsburgh since we love short, stocky type OLBs.

adschofield
01-01-2009, 03:47 PM
Josh Freeman to declare for Draft per ESPN

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3804400

Got a early 2nd round projection...

Cigaro
01-01-2009, 03:51 PM
Eric Norwood and Captain Munnerlyn have declared

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3804333

Good for both. They don't deserve to be put through this **** that Spurrier has defacated onto the program.

SC's defense:

http://heavenawaits.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/nuclear-bomb-explosion.jpg

CashmoneyDrew
01-01-2009, 03:52 PM
He's going to need to learn on the bench for a couple of years but I think this was the right move for him.

M.O.T.H.
01-01-2009, 03:52 PM
Steals for someone since neither will go that high.

Both may go fairly high actually. Both are bound to test out exceptionally...Cap should have stayed for one more year, though. He had a really up and down year and was still limping around on that ankle he broke last year.

More than likely, neither will go in the 1st round...but, they have about 2nd round ceilings. If Cap stays another year, I think he goes in the 1st round. As a sophomore, pre-injury, he was one of the best corners in the nation.

bearsfan_51
01-01-2009, 04:59 PM
Freeman will probably find his way into the 1st round. Given Angelo's comments on Orton it wouldn't surprise me to see the Bears take a look at 18. That's where Joe Flacco went last year.

draftguru151
01-01-2009, 05:02 PM
Lions should take him with their 2nd pick and stay away from Stafford. :)

sbh15
01-01-2009, 05:03 PM
Lions should take him with their 2nd pick and stay away from Stafford. :)

After today's second half performance that might be hard to do.

adschofield
01-01-2009, 05:07 PM
I hate Freeman as a prospect...He's got all the tools, but he does absolutely nothing in the last three years in terms of production...I really doubt his ability to run a NFL offense and read NFL defenses regardless if he sits on the bench for the first few years.

iBoldin
01-01-2009, 05:47 PM
According to sources, Ricky Jean-Francois is going to declare. Stupid decision, imo.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3804487

Scott Wright
01-01-2009, 05:51 PM
Lions should take him with their 2nd pick and stay away from Stafford. :)

This perhaps gives the Lions the option of passing on Stafford at #1 if they can get Freeman later in round one or at the top of round two.

Scott Wright
01-01-2009, 05:52 PM
According to sources, Ricky Jean-Francois is going to declare. Stupid decision, imo.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3804487

He has character issues and really bought into his own hype.

Hines
01-01-2009, 05:53 PM
According to sources, Ricky Jean-Francois is going to declare. Stupid decision, imo.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3804487

Al Woods is the guy I wished would come out.

bearsfan_51
01-01-2009, 06:01 PM
To be clear, I'm not very high on Freeman, but I think someone else will be (considering he got a high 2nd grade from the conservative review committee agrees as well). I would put Freeman with Nate Davis as 2nd/3rd types below Stafford, Bradford, and Sanchez.

I think the idea of passing on an elite talent like Stafford to take a huge risk like Freeman is crazy. Then again, this is the Lions.

keylime_5
01-01-2009, 06:08 PM
Freeman in late round one/early round two isn't worth it to me. Either you're gonna be a great QB or you're not worth taking that high. If Detroit wants a young QB take Stafford #1, if they want to build their lines first them do it and forget QB in the draft, get a guy like Cassel.

CashmoneyDrew
01-01-2009, 06:09 PM
Al Woods is the guy I wished would come out.

I know the guy is huge, but has he even done anything on the field to be considered draftable yet?

diabsoule
01-01-2009, 06:10 PM
To be clear, I'm not very high on Freeman, but I think someone else will be (considering he got a high 2nd grade from the conservative review committee agrees as well). I would put Freeman with Nate Davis as 2nd/3rd types below Stafford, Bradford, and Sanchez.

I think the idea of passing on an elite talent like Stafford to take a huge risk like Freeman is crazy. Then again, this is the Lions.

Agree completely with you. If I was the Lions I'd rather draft someone like Stafford and get an OT or best defensive player with their other 1st round pick than take a project like Josh Freeman.

Cigaro
01-01-2009, 07:06 PM
Scott might have to take Munnerlyn off the list;

"I really don't know right now," Munnerlyn said. "I'm going to sit down and talk with my mom, make the best decision."

"It will make it tempting, because I didn't have a great year this year," he said. "Teams kind of threw away from me and I didn't make the plays that I did my sophomore year."

Hines
01-01-2009, 07:08 PM
Didn't you post that a couple days ago?

Cigaro
01-01-2009, 07:16 PM
Didn't you post that a couple days ago?

He said something similar, but those quotes were from after the Outback Bowl. Another quote from the same article(it's a premium Rivals.com one, so I can't post the entire thing);

A report filed by ESPN's Joe Schad quoted Munnerlyn as saying he was ready to go pro, although Munnerlyn told reporters afterward he wasn't sure. The report also said Norwood said he was ready for the pro game. Those reports had not been confirmed at press time.

diabsoule
01-01-2009, 07:35 PM
According to sources, Ricky Jean-Francois is going to declare. Stupid decision, imo.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3804487

Get that bum off the team. He's done nothing impressive this year.

Sniper
01-01-2009, 07:36 PM
Get that bum off the team. He's done nothing impressive this year.

Some 3-4 team is going to be very lucky if he reaches his full potential.

Geo
01-01-2009, 09:04 PM
RJF coming out is a laugh, I wouldn't touch the guy in the first four rounds. Maybe in the 5th or 6th.

bearsfan_51
01-01-2009, 09:14 PM
I don't think it's a reach to say that RJF could go in the 3rd round. Lack of production this year will certainly hurt him, but not that much.

Sniper
01-01-2009, 09:17 PM
RJF should test very well which will help his cause.

Big_Pete
01-01-2009, 09:32 PM
kffl is reporting that Emanuel Cook will declare

NFL | Cook to enter 2009 NFL Draft
Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:25:16 -0800

J.J. Pesavento, of Next Level Scouting, reports South Carolina S Emanuel Cook will forego his senior season with the school and enter the 2009 NFL Draft.

no great surprise with his academic ineligibility

rockio42
01-01-2009, 09:41 PM
get I get some info on Eric Norwood??

Big_Pete
01-01-2009, 11:13 PM
get I get some info on Eric Norwood??

His college bio lists him at 6-1, 253, I have seen him listed up to 6-0, 270. I would imagine he is somewhere around 6'0"-6'1", 255-265 lbs and a 4.70-4.75 40 time.

He has been fairly productive, he gets into the backfield and causes mayhem

His 2008 stats:
13 GP, 75 tackles (49 solo, 26 assists), 14.5 TFL (74 yards), 9.0 sacks (63 yards), 1 PBU, 9 QBH, 2 FR (28 yds), 1 FF

I think his is probably limited to 3-4 OLB or 4-3 SLB; he is going to have a tough time with all the quality DEs and 3-4 OLBs in the draft. I would guess he is in the 2nd-3rd round range at this stage.

rockio42
01-02-2009, 01:05 AM
His college bio lists him at 6-1, 253, I have seen him listed up to 6-0, 270. I would imagine he is somewhere around 6'0"-6'1", 255-265 lbs and a 4.70-4.75 40 time.

He has been fairly productive, he gets into the backfield and causes mayhem

His 2008 stats:
13 GP, 75 tackles (49 solo, 26 assists), 14.5 TFL (74 yards), 9.0 sacks (63 yards), 1 PBU, 9 QBH, 2 FR (28 yds), 1 FF

I think his is probably limited to 3-4 OLB or 4-3 SLB; he is going to have a tough time with all the quality DEs and 3-4 OLBs in the draft. I would guess he is in the 2nd-3rd round range at this stage.

so in the Clint Sintim mold or is he more of a 3-4 OLB than Sintim (who I see as more of a 4-3 SLB)

Cigaro
01-02-2009, 01:07 AM
Will be a solid 3-4 OLB. Isn't an athletic freak like a Merriman, but still gets the job done day in and day out, and shouldn't stop in the NFL.

JRTPlaya21
01-02-2009, 11:18 PM
Chris Baker expected to enter

http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Small-School-Spotlight/breaking_news_hampton_dt_to_enter_draft.html

TACKLE
01-02-2009, 11:23 PM
Norwood shouldn't have declared. He's been productive in college but with his lack of size and with no freak athletic ability to compensate, he's probably peaked in college and should have stayed in school for his senior year.

Jonny
01-02-2009, 11:55 PM
Kenny Britt will declare today.

Big_Pete
01-03-2009, 12:38 AM
Kenny Britt will declare today.

Do you have a link?

sf25
01-03-2009, 02:51 AM
Didn't see it posted in the thread, but U. of Arizona Junior OT Eben Britton has declared for the draft. Should be a good choice for someone on day 1.

Link:
http://www.azstarnet.com/sports/274344

SuperKevin
01-03-2009, 04:13 AM
Didn't see it posted in the thread, but U. of Arizona Junior OT Eben Britton has declared for the draft. Should be a good choice for someone on day 1.

Link:
http://www.azstarnet.com/sports/274344

I think he'll be a mid-late 1st rounder. He's my favorite OT in the draft now

SuperKevin
01-03-2009, 04:29 AM
It's still very early but already the draft is much stronger with the players who have declared

Jonny
01-03-2009, 05:32 AM
Do you have a link?

They only announced that he is holding a press conference. But he will declare, 100% chance of it.

underscore
01-03-2009, 10:53 AM
Maybin is a first rounder if he comes out

Why do you think he's a first rounder? He's a 235lb DE right now with no LB experience and limited effectiveness with any inside move. He'd get eaten alive for the first year or two till he bulks up.

Mo Evans is just disgruntled with the PSU program. Him coming out will be similar to King coming out early, though King's disgruntlement was more warranted.

scottyboy
01-03-2009, 10:58 AM
guys, after Britt's press conference prepare for a tearful goodbye post from me... :(

ManOverboard
01-03-2009, 11:15 AM
Kenny Britt declares.

http://rutgers.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=642&tid=119512635&mid=119512635&sid=988&style=2

Geo
01-03-2009, 11:22 AM
Story with quotes from Britt, and a draft projection. (http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2009/01/rutgers_wr_kenny_britt.html)

bearsfan_51
01-03-2009, 11:25 AM
He won't fall to the 3rd, not unless he runs a 4.6 or something awful. He'll probably need a sub 4.5 to get into the 1st (which, unfortunately, is unlikely), but someone will get a steal in the 2nd.

ManOverboard
01-03-2009, 11:32 AM
He won't fall to the 3rd, not unless he runs a 4.6 or something awful. He'll probably need a sub 4.5 to get into the 1st (which, unfortunately, is unlikely), but someone will get a steal in the 2nd.

He will run a sub 4.5.

He will also measure out AT LEAST at 6'4"

CashmoneyDrew
01-03-2009, 11:33 AM
First page updated. Tally is at 13 declared so far.

scottyboy
01-03-2009, 11:39 AM
http://scarletknights.com/football/images/2007/navy/britt_navTC0933.jpg

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/09/13/sports/14araton.650.1.jpg

http://www.rutgersfootball.com/images/navy2007/kbitt.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0dq3efr0867P8/610x.jpg

I miss him already :(

ManOverboard
01-03-2009, 11:42 AM
Seems like just yesterday he caught that ball right in front of my section at Pandemonium in Piscataway. He almost went the distance but got stripped but had the presence of mind to fall on it and that led to a very important Ray Rice (I believe) TD.

He was just a freshman then too.

bearsfan_51
01-03-2009, 11:43 AM
He will run a sub 4.5.
Maybe at his proday, but I really doubt it at the combine.

Geo
01-03-2009, 11:45 AM
He will run a sub 4.5.

He will also measure out AT LEAST at 6'4"
The 40-time, I think he just might. He plays with good speed, I would say around 4.47-4.48ish if he practices well for the Combine (Ray Rice did a great job with this). Like I've said, although he's much bigger than their prototype, he reminds me of a Colts receiver in how he plays. Well, he needs to catch the ball with his hands a little better imo, and I think that can/will be addressed with further coaching and technique work.

And speaking of the Colts, I wouldn't be surprised if they drafted him in the late 1st.

As for the height, I'm not as sure. He could easily come in a little less than 6' 4" , and that's just fine. He's a taller guy regardless, and his game isn't limited to jump balls.

scottyboy
01-03-2009, 11:48 AM
The 40-time, I think he just might. He plays with good speed, I would say around 4.47-4.48ish if he practices well for the Combine (Ray Rice did a great job with this). Like I've said, although he's much bigger than their prototype, he reminds me of a Colts receiver in how he plays. Well, he needs to catch the ball with his hands a little better imo, and I think that can/will be addressed with further coaching and technique work.

And speaking of the Colts, I wouldn't be surprised if they drafted him in the late 1st.

As for the height, I'm not as sure. He could easily come in a little less than 6' 4" , and that's just fine. He's a taller guy regardless, and his game isn't limited to jump balls.

NO! you already have 2 Rutgers players! stop being greedy!!! He MUST become a Giant!!

ManOverboard
01-03-2009, 11:49 AM
Maybe at his proday, but I really doubt it at the combine.

4.47 in the combine is my honest prediction.

ManOverboard
01-03-2009, 11:50 AM
The 40-time, I think he just might. He plays with good speed, I would say around 4.47-4.48ish if he practices well for the Combine (Ray Rice did a great job with this). Like I've said, although he's much bigger than their prototype, he reminds me of a Colts receiver in how he plays. Well, he needs to catch the ball with his hands a little better imo, and I think that can/will be addressed with further coaching and technique work.

And speaking of the Colts, I wouldn't be surprised if they drafted him in the late 1st.

As for the height, I'm not as sure. He could easily come in a little less than 6' 4" , and that's just fine. He's a taller guy regardless, and his game isn't limited to jump balls.


The thing is I'm 6'5" everytime I go to the doctors and they measure me and when I stand with KB he's actually taller than me, so I'm interested to see. Either he's 6'5" or I'm just really 6'3" and my doctor needs a new measuring device.

ManOverboard
01-03-2009, 12:03 PM
Press conference up:

Right hand side. (http://scarletknights.com/)

Giantsfan1080
01-03-2009, 12:04 PM
As my sig says I believe Britt will end up in the first round. Teams are really going to fall in love with him at the combine. I don't know if its true or not but apparently Britt is going to be a top priority for the Giants.

ManOverboard
01-03-2009, 12:10 PM
As my sig says I believe Britt will end up in the first round. Teams are really going to fall in love with him at the combine. I don't know if its true or not but apparently Britt is going to be a top priority for the Giants.

Perfect Plax long term replacement. Hope the Jets scoop him first however.

JRTPlaya21
01-03-2009, 12:39 PM
Kam Chancellor to return!

http://www.roanoke.com/sports/vtfootball/wb/189856

Greg Hardy expected to declare

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/jan/03/no-headline---2009-01-02-231902114651/

Young Legend
01-03-2009, 01:05 PM
http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/274344

Eben Britton

AkiliSmith
01-03-2009, 01:06 PM
Per Draft Daddy Brandon Spikes and C.J. Spiller are very likely to declare. Spikes received a first round grade and Spiller a second round grade from NFL scouts.

DcmRulz
01-03-2009, 03:45 PM
Sportsline.com says that Donald Brown of UConn is going to go pro this year.

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/11220288

Race for the Heisman
01-03-2009, 04:44 PM
Sportsline.com says that Donald Brown of UConn is going to go pro this year.

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/11220288

Edit: I have no clue what just happened.

BeeKay415
01-03-2009, 04:44 PM
Here it is, this one should work

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/11220288

CashmoneyDrew
01-03-2009, 04:47 PM
You can always check the updated front page for names of players who've declared and links. If anyone could provide a real link for Emanuel Cook it would be much appreciated.

Smokey Joe
01-03-2009, 04:58 PM
For cook, this is the best I could find. Should be solid as the coach does say he will turn pro and he pretty much dropped out of school.

http://www.thestate.com/591/story/637589.html

Also, Mike Goodson is likely gonna declare:

http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/35613654.html

You probably want more confirmation though.

CashmoneyDrew
01-03-2009, 05:04 PM
Also, Mike Goodson is likely gonna declare:

http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/35613654.html

You probably want more confirmation though.

Yeah, guys like Goodson, Butler and Hardy have had articles saying they are likely going to declare but I'm going to wait to put them in after seeing a definitive article.

JRTPlaya21
01-03-2009, 05:06 PM
Antonio Coleman to return

http://blog.al.com/live/2009/01/antonio_coleman_will_return_to.html

CashmoneyDrew
01-03-2009, 05:09 PM
Antonio Coleman to return

http://blog.al.com/live/2009/01/antonio_coleman_will_return_to.html

Kind of a surprising choice. Seemed like he was set to declare with Sen'Derrick Marks. Not a bad choice though probably considering he can improve his stock a bit more.

illmatic74
01-03-2009, 10:45 PM
Andre Smith is official http://www.wsfa.com/Global/story.asp?S=9612638&nav=menu33_2

RaiderNation
01-04-2009, 12:56 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3808765

another link saying andre smith declares

PACKmanN
01-04-2009, 11:35 AM
wow, this has to be the most talented draft in a long time. It has the depth and talent across the draft.

CantStopGregJones
01-04-2009, 11:45 AM
Why is Eric Norwood being ranked so low and why are so many draft sites claiming it was a bad move on his part to leave early? This 4th-6th round stuff I'm reading is a load of garbage. He is a bad ass football player who is going to make an NFL team very happy.

Smokey Joe
01-04-2009, 12:42 PM
If Baker interviews well with teams, I could see him go in the 2nd. Could be a beast UT for a cover 2 team.

mpt117
01-04-2009, 03:32 PM
wow, this has to be the most talented draft in a long time. It has the depth and talent across the draft.

2004-2007 were all quality drafts in terms of prospects and depth and what they have done in the league so far. the 04 and 06 class stick out and 07 is starting to come around. last year was a down year in terms of overall talent. if it werent for the underclassmen, this years draft would be nothing to write about

keylime_5
01-04-2009, 03:34 PM
the 2007 draft had some really elite guys at the top but a huge dropoff, especially on the second day. Very top heavy draft in 2007. I think 2008 is gonna be right around where 2006 was but still not as good as 2004. Maybe the best OT class in a while though if we have Smith, Smith, Monroe, Oher, Britton, and if Okung and/or Williams declare.

Race for the Heisman
01-04-2009, 04:47 PM
I think you guys are selling 2008 short a little bit. Even though they're rookies there have been players making impacts at nearly every position.

Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco look like franchise quarterbacks.

Oodles of running backs have been good, notably Chris Johnson, Matt Forte, Jonathan Stewart, and Steve Slaton, but there are guys like Darren McFadden, Ray Rice, and Rashard Mendenhall who all have flashed potential and will get chances, and that doesn't even include guys like Tashard Choice who were selected late.

Eddie Royal, Donnie Avery, and DeSean Jackson have been the standout rookies, but there are a lot of other guys who look like they could be good.

Dustin Keller and John Carlson have made immediate impacts. Martellus Bennett is one of the other notables.

I don't really feel like going position by position, but I would say about three quarters of the first day picks have made impacts for their franchise.

Players who have become starters or played key roles while playing well: Jake Long, Chris Long, Matt Ryan, Jerod Mayo, Ryan Clady, Jonathan Stewart, Brandon Albert, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Joe Flacco, Jeff Otah, Aqib Talib, Chris Johnson, Antoine Cason, Dustin Keller, Kenny Phillips, Donnie Avery, Brandon Flowers, John Carlson, Tracy Porter, Eddie Royal, Matt Forte, DeSean Jackson, Jason Jones, Ray Rice, Mike Pollak. That's about half the first round and a quarter of the second which I think is pretty good compared to the norm.

That doesn't even include players who have become starters and struggled either simply as rookie or with injuries: Glenn Dorsey, Sedrick Ellis, Derrick Harvey, Keith Rivers, etc.

Smokey Joe
01-04-2009, 07:26 PM
Deadline is Jan. 15, right?

JRTPlaya21
01-04-2009, 07:27 PM
Yup. January 15

DcmRulz
01-04-2009, 08:59 PM
Linebacker Gerald McRath of Southern Mississippi declares

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3810338

princefielder28
01-04-2009, 09:03 PM
Linebacker Gerald McRath of Southern Mississippi declares

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3810338

He'll be my #3 LB behind Curry and Sintim

bored of education
01-04-2009, 09:17 PM
Linebacker Gerald McRath of Southern Mississippi declares

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3810338

I want him in KC as the MLB please!

keylime_5
01-04-2009, 10:32 PM
He's fast, and is better suited as a WLB. This LB class is gonna be stacked:
1-Curry
2-Spikes
3-Maualuga
4-Cushing
5-Laurinaitis
6-Sintim
7-McRath

bearsfan_51
01-04-2009, 10:44 PM
Yeah McRath is definately a WILL, probably the best pure WLB in the draft.

SuperKevin
01-04-2009, 10:59 PM
Shouldn't Myron Rolle be on the list? He declared like a month and a half ago

giantsfan
01-04-2009, 11:09 PM
He's fast, and is better suited as a WLB. This LB class is gonna be stacked:
1-Curry
2-Spikes
3-Maualuga
4-Cushing
5-Laurinaitis
6-Sintim
7-McRath

And Herzlich could still come out and push Spikes for the number 2 spot.

foozball
01-04-2009, 11:10 PM
Shouldn't Myron Rolle be on the list? He declared like a month and a half ago

i wouldnt say he declared for the draft though. he just wont be playing ncaa foozball no more

Big_Pete
01-04-2009, 11:11 PM
Shouldn't Myron Rolle be on the list? He declared like a month and a half ago

As far as I know he has only declared that he isn't going back to college

he hasn't declared whether he is going to oxford or entering in the draft.


I would assume that he hasn't declared himself eligible for the 2009 draft and will go to oxford instead. It means he will likely be in the 2010 draft.

Big_Pete
01-04-2009, 11:24 PM
He's fast, and is better suited as a WLB. This LB class is gonna be stacked:
1-Curry
2-Spikes
3-Maualuga
4-Cushing
5-Laurinaitis
6-Sintim
7-McRath

and then you add guys like

Weatherspoon (maybe)
Freeman
Beckwith
Brinkley
Ellerbe
Mckenzie
Matthews
Norwood

and if you are 3-4 team there are plenty of DEs who are also excellent OLB options such as

Orakpo
Maybin (maybe)
Selvie (maybe)
Johnson
E. Brown
Barwin
C. Brown
English
Wilson

of course the depth also may not help as teams could decide to wait a little to fill their LB and take advantage of the depth of talent

SuperKevin
01-04-2009, 11:26 PM
It sure is bad to be a veteran backup right now. This new UFL could be huge for these guys who are being pushed out of the league by younger, cheaper, more talented players.

Unbiased
01-04-2009, 11:41 PM
Brandon Mason declares

http://www.prlog.org/10154043-attorney-brandon-mason-declares-for-the-2009-nfl-draft.html

bearsfan_51
01-04-2009, 11:47 PM
I thought Mason was a senior? It even says he graduated from college in December.

Either way, he probably won't be drafted.

Unbiased
01-04-2009, 11:50 PM
I thought Mason was a senior? It even says he graduated from college in December.

Either way, he probably won't be drafted.

Well, if he transferred, he would have had to sit out a year, therefore saving a year of eligibility without missing a year of classes. Almost like a redshirt.

Big_Pete
01-04-2009, 11:52 PM
I thought Mason was a senior? It even says he graduated from college in December.

Either way, he probably won't be drafted.


I am not so sure, if he can repeat or improve on his 2008 proday numbers (from the linked article):

Pro-Day 2008 statistics:

Position: running back; h-back

Age: 22; Ht: 62; Weight: 225

Time in the 40: 4.5

Vertical jump: 37

Broad jump: 103

Shuttle time: 4.15

225 pd. bench press: 24


he could be a mid/late round pick. Particularly when most of the senior RB class lack size or speed and the RB class as a whole is rather thin with decent talent.

SuperKevin
01-05-2009, 12:08 AM
Second best player on Stony Brook behind former Michigan CB Chris Richards

Scott Wright
01-05-2009, 12:13 AM
Shouldn't Myron Rolle be on the list? He declared like a month and a half ago

I don't believe he declared for the draft...

He isn't going to be at Florida St. next season, he will either be at Oxford in the NFL. However, he hasn't decided between the two yet and if he opts to head overseas he probably won't declare himself eligible for the 2009 NFL Draft. Last I heard he was leaning towards taking advantage of that Rhodes Scholarship.

Yatta!
01-05-2009, 05:16 AM
Last I heard about Rolle was that he was gonna come to England but was hoping to go to the Combine and his Proday etc in order to explore his NFL prospects. I suppose someone could draft him and he'd arrive in a couple of years like the academy prospects.

I'll try and find the link.

Chachi
01-05-2009, 10:02 AM
http://www2.journalnow.com/content/2009/jan/05/nicks-leaving-unc-enter-nfl-draft/

Hakeem Nicks enters NFL draft

SuperKevin
01-05-2009, 10:04 AM
Wow. With Nicks and Britt already in I wonder if a guy like Percy Harvin might be scared into returning for his senior season

Chachi
01-05-2009, 10:32 AM
Looks like Crabtree to enter, not official

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/01/top-college-receiver-to-declare-for-draft/

thebow305
01-05-2009, 10:51 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=3810999

Eric Norwood has decided to return to school and will not enter the draft after all.

DAMN! I wanted this guy!

SuperKevin
01-05-2009, 10:55 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=3810999

Eric Norwood has decided to return to school and will not enter the draft after all.

DAMN! I wanted this guy!

Smart move in my opinion. Really isn't a huge name yet in most draft circles and likely could have fallen to the mid second-early third round areas.

Number 10
01-05-2009, 11:15 AM
Any word on Maybin? Everette Brown?

Both should go back to school.

hockey619
01-05-2009, 11:19 AM
Hakeem Nicks declares.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=3811083

etk
01-05-2009, 01:15 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=3810999

Eric Norwood has decided to return to school and will not enter the draft after all.

DAMN! I wanted this guy!

I haven't seen someone do that since Colt Brennan, maybe I'm wrong. As experienced as Norwood is, he could use the extra year to continue to work on his versatility. I'd like to see him at 270-275 to play LDE. He's not at his best standing up.

illmatic74
01-05-2009, 01:16 PM
I haven't seen someone do that since Colt Brennan, maybe I'm wrong. As experienced as Norwood is, he could use the extra year to continue to work on his versatility. I'd like to see him at 270-275 to play LDE. He's not at his best standing up.Chase Daniel did it last year.

Habibi
01-05-2009, 01:31 PM
Any word on Maybin? Everette Brown?

Both should go back to school.

Maybe Maybin, but Everette Brown should definitely declare.

Number 10
01-05-2009, 02:03 PM
Maybe Maybin, but Everette Brown should definitely declare.

I disagree. Both need another year.

Babylon
01-05-2009, 02:04 PM
Any word on Maybin? Everette Brown?

Both should go back to school.

Gut feeling Brown leaves Maybin stays. Also i hear that Ciron Black is leaning towards going pro.

SuperKevin
01-05-2009, 02:43 PM
I haven't seen someone do that since Colt Brennan, maybe I'm wrong. As experienced as Norwood is, he could use the extra year to continue to work on his versatility. I'd like to see him at 270-275 to play LDE. He's not at his best standing up.

Patrick Chung did it last year

Flyboy
01-05-2009, 02:46 PM
Looks like Crabtree to enter, not official

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/01/top-college-receiver-to-declare-for-draft/

w00tw00t! My favorite prospect in the draft, without question.

SuperKevin
01-05-2009, 03:00 PM
Southern Connecticut DB James Williams declared for the draft. I don't know who he is or why he'd do this other than school being too hard for him. Draft Daddy claims he sent them an e-mail and a YouTube link. I'm at work so I can't see the YouTube.

kwilk103
01-05-2009, 03:59 PM
http://www.postgazette.com/pg/09005/939744-142.stm

lasean mccoy coming back

cant say i agree (maybe im biased though); likely 1st round pick, had a bad leg injury in high school, no chance at the NC, no qb so another year of 8-9 man fronts

IceKubes
01-05-2009, 04:47 PM
Per the radio here in Houston Rice TE James Casey is declaring for the draft. When I find a link I will post it unless someone beats me to it. I'll miss watching this guy, he was probably nipping on Owen Daniels heels as the best TE in town and I love Owen Daniels.

princefielder28
01-05-2009, 04:49 PM
Per the radio here in Houston Rice TE James Casey is declaring for the draft. When I find a link I will post it unless someone beats me to it. I'll miss watching this guy, he was probably nipping on Owen Daniels heels as the best TE in town and I love Owen Daniels.

Makes sense, he had a great season and is already 24.

CashmoneyDrew
01-05-2009, 04:50 PM
As soon as a link is posted I'll edit him into the front page.

Big_Pete
01-05-2009, 05:29 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=3810999

Eric Norwood has decided to return to school and will not enter the draft after all.

DAMN! I wanted this guy!

I don't see this as a good move for him actually.

It is hard to see how his draft stock will rise with another year. His main issues are a lacks of height, genuine speed and athleticism. Production wise he is right up there.

Plus SC's defense is being decimated this offseason.

And Spurrier has issues with the draft eligible underclassmen who 'switced off' that very likely includes Norwood.

I think he would be better coming out and making an impact on whichever team drafts him.

I think he got a little scared by the "draft experts" putting him lower than he thought he would be, so he has chosen the comfort of the system he knows.

CashmoneyDrew
01-05-2009, 05:30 PM
I don't see this as a good move for him actually.

It is hard to see how his draft stock will rise with another year. His main issues are a lacks of height, genuine speed and athleticism. Production wise he is right up there.

Plus SC's defense is being decimated this offseason.

And Spurrier has issues with the draft eligible underclassmen who 'switced off' that very likely includes Norwood.

I think he would be better coming out and making an impact on whichever team drafts him.

I think he got a little scared by the "draft experts" putting him lower than he thought he would be, so he has chosen the comfort of the system he knows.

Totally agreed.

JRTPlaya21
01-05-2009, 05:31 PM
James Casey

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6195366.html

JRTPlaya21
01-05-2009, 05:36 PM
Linebacker Gerald McRath of Southern Mississippi declares

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3810338

McRath projected draft grade

http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20090105/SPORTS030104/90105025

etk
01-05-2009, 06:44 PM
I disagree. Both need another year.

If you're gonna make a comment like that, at least back it up with support.

Patrick Chung did it last year

Yeah you're right. Completely forgot.

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/09005/939744-142.stm

lasean mccoy coming back

cant say i agree (maybe im biased though); likely 1st round pick, had a bad leg injury in high school, no chance at the NC, no qb so another year of 8-9 man fronts

Really bad decision. Another year of trying to dance around stacked boxes will do him no good. He needs to get to the NFL and improve his running style under a good staff.

Babylon
01-05-2009, 06:51 PM
James Casey

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6195366.html


he could surprise some people if he gets to the combine, he's 24 and i think he played defense until this year but the guy is an athlete.

Smokey Joe
01-05-2009, 06:56 PM
James Casey

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6195366.html
Make that now two ex White Sox prospects now draft prospects...

TE, WR, or H-Back in the NFL?

Smokey Joe
01-05-2009, 07:20 PM
If Jeff Jagodzinski does get fired, which it looks like he will... will that possibly prompt Herzlich and possibly others to reconsider staying at BC?

SuperKevin
01-05-2009, 07:21 PM
Make that now two ex White Sox prospects now draft prospects...

TE, WR, or H-Back in the NFL?

Whatever position Dallas Clark plays

bearsfan_51
01-05-2009, 11:16 PM
McRath projected draft grade

http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20090105/SPORTS030104/90105025
That's surprising. Kid looks like a 1st day player to me. Then again, 4-3 linebackers aren't worth much nowadays.

Scott Wright
01-05-2009, 11:34 PM
If Jeff Jagodzinski does get fired, which it looks like he will... will that possibly prompt Herzlich and possibly others to reconsider staying at BC?

You probably couldn't rule it out but it sounds like BC plans to promote from within if they do make a change so my guess is Herzlich will stay.

CashmoneyDrew
01-05-2009, 11:39 PM
Hey Scott. I was just wondering how come you haven't added Andre Smith and Donald Brown to the front page of the site's underclassmen section? Brandon Mason is also missing but I could understand that considering he's a lesser prospect. Not criticizing, just wondering.

Babylon
01-05-2009, 11:43 PM
If Jeff Jagodzinski does get fired, which it looks like he will... will that possibly prompt Herzlich and possibly others to reconsider staying at BC?

One can only hope.

Scott Wright
01-05-2009, 11:45 PM
Hey Scott. I was just wondering how come you haven't added Andre Smith and Donald Brown to the front page of the site's underclassmen section? Brandon Mason is also missing but I could understand that considering he's a lesser prospect. Not criticizing, just wondering.

Wow, thanks for pointing that out. I could have SWORE I added them!

As for Mason, I believe he is a senior...?

M.O.T.H.
01-05-2009, 11:55 PM
Ha, Brandon Mason...went to high school and played football w/ him, and his grandparents or aunt/auncle, w/e were my next door neighbors back in the day. Great football player, god awful basketball player. Just a random note, ha.

CashmoneyDrew
01-05-2009, 11:56 PM
Wow, thanks for pointing that out. I could have SWORE I added them!

As for Mason, I believe he is a senior...?

That question was raised earlier as well. The link I have next to his name reported that he was giving up eligibility to go pro though so it's a weird situation right now I guess.

Bengals78
01-05-2009, 11:59 PM
Any word on Matt Stafford or Knowshon?

CashmoneyDrew
01-06-2009, 12:01 AM
Any word on Matt Stafford or Knowshon?

Not yet that I know of.

Also Scott, one other thing I noticed, and it's kind of nit picky, is you have James Casey listed as a JR and the article that had him declaring says he's a sophomore.

Babylon
01-06-2009, 12:02 AM
Any word on Matt Stafford or Knowshon?

With some of the hits Stafford took this year if he doesnt come out i have to seriously question his mental capacity.

CashmoneyDrew
01-06-2009, 12:04 AM
With some of the hits Stafford took this year if he doesnt come out i have to seriously question his mental capacity.

Like he's not going to get killed in Detroit? lol

Babylon
01-06-2009, 12:09 AM
Like he's not going to get killed in Detroit? lol

If i'm going to get beat up i want to get paid for it. (you knew that was coming)

CashmoneyDrew
01-06-2009, 12:11 AM
True, but Georgia's O-line will probably be a lot better next year.

Babylon
01-06-2009, 12:15 AM
True, but Georgia's O-line will probably be a lot better next year.

I'd be shocked actually if he went back.

Hines
01-06-2009, 12:48 AM
Rice's utility back, James Casey, entering the NFL Draft.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6195366.html

Probably wont play rb in the NFL, but could play LB or maybe safety. He is 24 years old.

Sniper
01-06-2009, 12:49 AM
Rice's utility back, James Casey, entering the NFL Draft.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6195366.html

Probably wont play rb in the NFL, but could play LB or maybe safety. He is 24 years old.

You're so last page.

Babylon
01-06-2009, 12:54 AM
Rice's utility back, James Casey, entering the NFL Draft.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6195366.html

Probably wont play rb in the NFL, but could play LB or maybe safety. He is 24 years old.

Or maybe play the position he played this year to the tune of 111 receptions (TE).

Hines
01-06-2009, 12:58 AM
You're so last page.

I know, I know. I just saw it on the last page too. I hate myself.

Oh, and Kyle Wilson, cornerback from Boise State, is rumored to be declaring early.

Chachi
01-06-2009, 11:19 AM
McCoy waiting for NFL report

By Kevin Gorman, TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Tuesday, January 6, 2009

Pitt football coach Dave Wannstedt said he had conversations with LeSean McCoy and star tailback's parents before and after the Sun Bowl, and Wannstedt believes the McCoy will bypass the NFL Draft and return for his junior season.

"He's excited to come back for another year," Wannstedt said. "LeSean believes, and his mom and dad believe, that he's excited about being here, and we all believe that this next year will do nothing but enhance his opportunities for the National Football League."

But McCoy's mother said Monday that the family is awaiting a report from the NFL Draft Advisory Board before making a final decision.

"LeSean does love being there. He loves Pitt and loves the football team. I know he wants to be there," Daphne McCoy said. "But he's 20. At 20 years old, you don't always know what's good for you.

"For right now, it looks like he'll be back next year. If the report tells us anything different, we'll see if he should come out at this time."

McCoy is eligible to declare hardship for the draft because he's three years removed from high school. He previously said he "definitely" plans to return.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/college/s_605801.html?source=rss&feed=15

SuperKevin
01-06-2009, 12:29 PM
http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2009/01/auburns_jerraud_powers_says_he.html

Auburn junior CB Jerraud Powers declares. Don't know much about him though

critesy
01-06-2009, 12:42 PM
powers is a beauty, he is good in man to man coverage and can come up and lay a hit on people. he is probably at most 2nd but will probably be taken in the 3rd or 4th.

Unbiased
01-06-2009, 12:43 PM
http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2009/01/auburns_jerraud_powers_says_he.html

Auburn junior CB Jerraud Powers declares. Don't know much about him though

Auburn fans I've talked to say he's pretty small and didn't have a great year. One said late round to undrafted.

Unbiased
01-06-2009, 12:44 PM
powers is a beauty, he is good in man to man coverage and can come up and lay a hit on people. he is probably at most 2nd but will probably be taken in the 3rd or 4th.

Hmmm, maybe the Auburn fans I talked to were just pissed that he was leaving.

gpngc
01-06-2009, 12:50 PM
Powers is the all-time NCAA leader in in-game dog attacks.