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WMD
12-21-2008, 09:04 PM
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2008/12/21/rob-parker-rips-rod-marinelli-for-hiring-his-son-in-law-as-defen/

Ouch, Rob.. ouch! Don't think that was very necessary..

Addict
12-21-2008, 09:21 PM
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2008/12/21/rob-parker-rips-rod-marinelli-for-hiring-his-son-in-law-as-defen/

Ouch, Rob.. ouch! Don't think that was very necessary..

if you don't wan't things to get personal, then don't hire your own family. Rod could have expected someone to get bitter and just flat-out ask him. It seems that inadequate people keep their positions for strange reasons these days (Matt Millen anyone?). I mean, we have been the absolute bottom feeder of the NFL defensively, how does this guy still have a job?

In short, no I don't think the question was out of line, simply because you can't expect everyone to stay calm and cool when their favourite team (I'm assuming that the reporters of the Detroit News are fans of the Lions) is 0-15 and on route to the first 0-16 in NFL history. Especially when that team is being ran by a bunch of inept jackasses who can't seem to lose their job no matter what the hell they do.

SINCE1978
12-21-2008, 10:14 PM
Hey Terry Bradshaw you are the pot. Meet kettle, it's black too ....

And Terry, next time you do a business seminar talk for 5 figures don't show up half in the bag and fall asleep before the introduction as key note speaker. This is a true story, DOW Chemical had him in once and that is what happened ... YES, Parker was out of line talking about captain masticolli's family in the presser but how's this for judgement. Terry Bradshaw, let's rewind the 2008 season and YOU cover the Lion's. Every post game, every Monday presser, every article (if you can even write?) You would be just as frustrated as Parker, Kowalski, Wojonowski, Karsh, Album etc I have rarely heard another coach in all of sports history who can fill the air with words but never say anything like Rod ... some of my favorites: "sharpening the shovel", "my will is outstanding", "it's like elevator music, I just tune it out when I leave here" ...
come on .. we don't care about pad level and tape and china packages and explosion plays! The media is just as sick of the same lines of crap as us fans. Here's a great example of how terrible this staff is all around: how do you come out of half time and get a penalty for 12 men on the field on the first play on D????

the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

1-22 in last 23 games.
22 point avg loss at home this year

How can one continue asking "real" questions about that?
What is there to "report" about that?

Sorry for the rant. 0-16 is not even going to get this thing blown up to start over again. WCF is going to have to ride the ol' Mustang into the sky for us to see a winner in the D fellas;o)

DoWnThEfiElD
12-21-2008, 11:07 PM
Parker = Joke

That was pathetic. We get it the Lions are terrible. It isn't just because of a defensive coordinator. The guy was acting like we just got bounced from playoff contention. News flash Parker, been bad all year... No excuse to ever be that unprofessional and make it personal. Say what you want about the guy as a head coach, but he still is a good person. Nobody deserves to be treated with that little class.

weasel
12-21-2008, 11:35 PM
Problem is you guys pay attention. When Robbie Parker starts speaking or writing that is time to stop listening or reading. He lives to foment discord. Farking idiot. Any attack on Joe Barry and Rod would have been fine. The attack on Marinelli's daughter and the fact he even brought her into it shows absolutely no professionalism. Maybe Marinelli should be canned. Barry has to go. But , in reality, the only thing Parker showed was why he should be in the unemployment line. If he wanted to question the coach's relationship with his son-in-law that's inbounds but to even mention his daughter is totally unethical. Parker deserves to be fired. The Lions deserve to be covered by a professional.

Notredameleo
12-22-2008, 12:16 AM
There are some things that we are all thinking, but some not everyone is a big enough jerk to say it. It was totally classless and he should get fired.

WMD
12-22-2008, 01:17 AM
I'm just glad Marinelli said "Next Question". I'm sure Parker didn't mean for it to be taken seriously like that, but you just don't need to say it. Rob Parker was probably expecting some laughs and I doubt he was trying to offend Marinelli.

Ward
12-22-2008, 02:29 AM
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Ward
12-22-2008, 02:31 AM
I thought it's what any one of us on the board could have been saying/thinking (if we cared), and it's hilarious that he had the balls to say it to his face. Nepotism should be questioned.

LonghornsLegend
12-22-2008, 02:51 AM
if you don't wan't things to get personal, then don't hire your own family. Rod could have expected someone to get bitter and just flat-out ask him. It seems that inadequate people keep their positions for strange reasons these days (Matt Millen anyone?). I mean, we have been the absolute bottom feeder of the NFL defensively, how does this guy still have a job?

In short, no I don't think the question was out of line, simply because you can't expect everyone to stay calm and cool when their favourite team (I'm assuming that the reporters of the Detroit News are fans of the Lions) is 0-15 and on route to the first 0-16 in NFL history. Especially when that team is being ran by a bunch of inept jackasses who can't seem to lose their job no matter what the hell they do.


Losing or not that still doesn't give him the reason to be a ******** about the way he asked him the question...Why not just ask if he wishes he hired a better D-coordinator, or if he wishes he didn't hire someone within the family, asking "does he wish his sister married a better defensive coordinator" is just an ******* comment...He's not asking it to get insight, he's asking it to piss off Marinelli who has been about as classy as you can be in this situation.


He is taking all the shots and criticism, yet it was Millen who consistently brought in lackluster talent, Marinelli is having to work with the results of that now, it's not like he was handed a playoff caliber team that hasn't produced...The teams lone best defensive player was also traded for picks, he's doing the best he can but the context the question was asked in was pretty dick.

Addict
12-22-2008, 03:02 AM
Losing or not that still doesn't give him the reason to be a ******** about the way he asked him the question...Why not just ask if he wishes he hired a better D-coordinator, or if he wishes he didn't hire someone within the family, asking "does he wish his sister married a better defensive coordinator" is just an ******* comment...He's not asking it to get insight, he's asking it to piss off Marinelli who has been about as classy as you can be in this situation.


He is taking all the shots and criticism, yet it was Millen who consistently brought in lackluster talent, Marinelli is having to work with the results of that now, it's not like he was handed a playoff caliber team that hasn't produced...The teams lone best defensive player was also traded for picks, he's doing the best he can but the context the question was asked in was pretty dick.

tl;dr... but poit taken, I guess

D-Unit
12-22-2008, 03:17 AM
I hope Santa puts coals in Parker's stocking.

Ward
12-22-2008, 03:20 AM
Nepotism is the showing of favoritism toward relatives and friends, based upon that relationship, rather than on an objective evaluation of ability, meritocracy, or suitability. For instance, offering employment to a relative, despite the fact that there are others who are better qualified and willing to perform the job. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism)

A journalist has every right to ask questions about it. The way he worded his must have been the only way he thought he'd get an honest reaction. It's definitely not his job to be nice to Rod Marinelli. If Howard Stern said this you'd all think it was the funniest NFL joke ever.

The Great Jonathan Vilma
12-22-2008, 09:14 AM
Stupid comment Ward and i disagree entirely. He worded it that way assuming it was the only way to get an 'honest reaction'? I guess that depends what type of reaction you classify as 'honest'. I'd suddenly think it was funny if Howard Stern said it? If you say so. Regardless, Howard Stern and the person who asked it have different roles in what they are expected to cover and how they should be covering it. Point is, it was uncalled for and unprofessional. Leave the daughter out of it. You can ask that question a million ways, but he chose to include his daughter in the question. It was anything but necessary, and it was stupid. Can't be defended. Ask it in a professional way, use the word Nepotism to try and sound smart (the reporter, not Ward), throw out the family relationship that may have biased the selection, but don't bring in someone's daughter who has absolutely nothing to do with the Detroit Lions going 0-16.

Although you can obviously discuss Marinelli and whether he is a good coach and all those things (who he hired on his staff), lets not forget that this team was crap from the start. Matt Millen was the wrost GM in the history of sports, and assembled for the most part, a brutal team. Now just because he's gone, doesn't mean everything should go on Marinelli (although i believe he may/should be fired if for nothing more than to give this team a moving forward and fresh feeling). He was put into a bad spot, and although he has obviously contributed to the problem, he (and his daughter) don't deserve a stupid family question like that. Word it properly, be professional, or keep your mouth shut.

bored of education
12-22-2008, 09:46 AM
quote of the year. if you know how Parker is you will understand that it was a joke and him and Rob have these types or comments from time to time.

bearsfan_51
12-22-2008, 10:11 AM
Nepotism is the showing of favoritism toward relatives and friends, based upon that relationship, rather than on an objective evaluation of ability, meritocracy, or suitability. For instance, offering employment to a relative, despite the fact that there are others who are better qualified and willing to perform the job. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism)

A journalist has every right to ask questions about it. The way he worded his must have been the only way he thought he'd get an honest reaction. It's definitely not his job to be nice to Rod Marinelli. If Howard Stern said this you'd all think it was the funniest NFL joke ever.
Howard Stern is an assclown that should have been shot in the face 20 years ago. He's funny to 13 year olds and high school dropouts. I question anyone else that thinks he's clever.

As for the reporter, it was classless, but such is Detroit. I'm sure there's a market for that angst.

The Unseen
12-22-2008, 10:18 AM
I thought it's what any one of us on the board could have been saying/thinking (if we cared), and it's hilarious that he had the balls to say it to his face. Nepotism should be questioned.

Of course nepotism should be questioned, but this has NOTHING to do with his daughter. At all. It was a really stupid thing to say.

eazyb81
12-22-2008, 10:20 AM
Totally classless and I hope the paper takes some action against Parker. Questioning nepotism is fine, but not in the way he did it.

Parker was just on First Take acting like him and Marinelli are still cool....it seems like he realized he majorly F'd up and is trying to play damage control.

DoWnThEfiElD
12-22-2008, 10:24 AM
Classless. I promise you one defensive coordinator is not the reason why we are 0-15. Why didn't Rob have the balls to ask this question right away when the hire was made? Someone should have ask Rob that question. Real tough journalism asking it when the team just gives up 40 and is 0-15.

DoWnThEfiElD
12-22-2008, 10:24 AM
Totally classless and I hope the paper takes some action against Parker. Questioning nepotism is fine, but not in the way he did it.

Parker was just on First Take acting like him and Marinelli are still cool....it seems like he realized he majorly F'd up and is trying to play damage control.

Ya the Lions defense is almost as bad as watching him play with Skip on 1st and 10...

DoWnThEfiElD
12-22-2008, 10:30 AM
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081222/OPINION03/812220369/&imw=Y

Parker's attempt at downplaying this whole thing...

locseti
12-22-2008, 11:10 AM
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081222/OPINION03/812220369/&imw=Y

Parker's attempt at downplaying this whole thing...

what a bunch of ********, sounds like a high school essay about honor and his love for rod marinelli.

"Instead, Marinelli acted like he always does.

He took it and moved on.

For that, how can't you like that guy? I do. I really do. "

LonghornsLegend
12-22-2008, 11:29 AM
Howard Stern is an assclown that should have been shot in the face 20 years ago. He's funny to 13 year olds and high school dropouts. I question anyone else that thinks he's clever.

This is the greatest quote ever lol.

Xiomera
12-22-2008, 11:35 AM
I don't think he went too far personally. The studio analysts at FOX took the quote out of context. Parker's question followed a series of total deflections by Marinelli refusing to comment on Joe Barry at all. "It's on me." That's what he always says. ANSWER A ******* QUESTION MARINELLI! You can't employ a family member if you're unwilling to address major concerns over his competancy!

I'm a journalism major in college. And while I don't personally like Rob Parker, I can recognize that the exchange of words between he and Marinelli is a necessity of good news coverage. This question was clearly an attempt at humor following a heated debate. The questions have to be asked. He could have phrased them differently, but Joe Barry quite simply is still employed because of his relationship with Marinelli. And his defense ******* sucks.

bored of education
12-22-2008, 12:19 PM
I don't think he went too far personally. The studio analysts at FOX took the quote out of context. Parker's question followed a series of total deflections by Marinelli refusing to comment on Joe Barry at all. "It's on me." That's what he always says. ANSWER A ******* QUESTION MARINELLI! You can't employ a family member if you're unwilling to address major concerns over his competancy!

I'm a journalism major in college. And while I don't personally like Rob Parker, I can recognize that the exchange of words between he and Marinelli is a necessity of good news coverage. This question was clearly an attempt at humor following a heated debate. The questions have to be asked. He could have phrased them differently, but Joe Barry quite simply is still employed because of his relationship with Marinelli. And his defense ******* sucks.


parker is known to have those type of questions, he tries to make light of situations in hopes to solidifying his relationship with the coach for future interviews and questions etc.

Xiomera
12-22-2008, 12:23 PM
parker is known to have those type of questions, he tries to make light of situations in hopes to solidifying his relationship with the coach for future interviews and questions etc.

Exactly. You can argue he went about asking the question in the wrong way, but it's indisputable that it's a question that EVERYONE wants to know, and as a journalist, it's his job to get the answer. Rod Marinelli deflects, dodges, and flat refuses to answer tough questions. Not just this question, but every question.

Marinelli just says "It's on me."

The next question ought to be, "then why aren't you fired yet?"

Xiomera
12-22-2008, 12:55 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Detroit-columnist-mocks-Rod-Marinelli-during-pre?urn=nfl,130613

This is a better video link. It's got more of the questioning that led to the controversial comment. Marinelli is a buffoon.

And what I wanna know is when will the media stop praising Marinelli? Howie Long says he knew Rod when he was in Tampa. Well that's great! Now what does that have to do with his Head Coaching ability and job performance with the Lions?

Why do analysts always fall back on the stupid cliche of saying Rod is a great D-Line coach? What exactly has he done with Detroit's D-Line? He spends literally all of his time in practice with the D-Line, and yet I can't identify one single player that has become better as a result of Rod's coaching? It's so sad that people have to lessen the blow of saying he's a bad head coach by following it up that his "love for the game" and all these stupid intangibles are supposed to somehow make up for his complete ineptitude.

Make me sick.

The Great Jonathan Vilma
12-22-2008, 01:18 PM
I don't defend him based on his coaching, but when asking the question the line between work and family should not be crossed (including the daughter did that). Ask about the defensive coordinator directly, not by going through the daughter.

How crappy Marinelli is not what is in question. He's coaching a 0-15 team, he's obviously nothing special. However, it was a stupid question. How he is as a person and with his family, is something seperate than his coaching ability, and therefore that line shouldn't have been broken

Xiomera
12-22-2008, 01:34 PM
I don't defend him based on his coaching, but when asking the question the line between work and family should not be crossed (including the daughter did that). Ask about the defensive coordinator directly, not by going through the daughter.

How crappy Marinelli is not what is in question. He's coaching a 0-15 team, he's obviously nothing special. However, it was a stupid question. How he is as a person and with his family, is something seperate than his coaching ability, and therefore that line shouldn't have been broken

Yes and no. I don't think it's fair for people outside of Mchigan who aren't familiar with the Detroit media's relationship with Marinelli. Terry Bradshaw and Michael Strahan are ignorant. The rest of the country jumps on the bandwaggon and starts defending Marinelli as a result. This man can't be let off the hook.

And if you watch the entire press conference (and every preceeding interview with Rod this season), you'll see him flatly refuse to discuss his coaching staff. All this on the worst team in NFL history. That's unacceptable.

Ward
12-22-2008, 01:54 PM
Exactly. You can argue he went about asking the question in the wrong way, but it's indisputable that it's a question that EVERYONE wants to know, and as a journalist, it's his job to get the answer. Rod Marinelli deflects, dodges, and flat refuses to answer tough questions. Not just this question, but every question.

Marinelli just says "It's on me."

The next question ought to be, "then why aren't you fired yet?"

It's nice to see someone who understands how the media works, and what a journalist's job is like. All these 13 year old kids don't get it, and are strangely defending the coach of the losingest single season team in history.

When you are failing at your job in a multi-billion dollar industry such as the NFL, you will face difficult questions. If you, as several have pointed out, constantly avoid such difficult questions in the face of extreme failure (which 0-15 certainly is) you deserve to be given a harder time than is normal. If you are the head coach of an 0-15 team, and your son-in-law is part of the coaching staff, you deserve to be questioned on that.

My favorite is that one of you told me I'm being stupid, but then went on to say how this guy is classless. No hypocrisy there!

Gay Ork Wang
12-22-2008, 01:58 PM
who cares, buuuuhhuuu go cry...win some games and there wont be those kind of questions. its like he is a kid and cant deal with that

Ward
12-22-2008, 02:01 PM
I don't defend him based on his coaching, but when asking the question the line between work and family should not be crossed (including the daughter did that). Ask about the defensive coordinator directly, not by going through the daughter.

How crappy Marinelli is not what is in question. He's coaching a 0-15 team, he's obviously nothing special. However, it was a stupid question. How he is as a person and with his family, is something seperate than his coaching ability, and therefore that line shouldn't have been broken

How long have you been a newspaper editor? Because it sounds like you have very strict standards on how you want reporters to behave. I am very curious to see how successful your paper is, so please share.

Ward
12-22-2008, 02:13 PM
I'll use a comparison that will definitely get me in trouble, but it makes my point perfectly so I'm going for it anyway.

If say a certain political leader was doing a very, very bad job (historically bad), would you be opposed to reporters asking him questions in this manner? Let's say this political leader has left the country much worse than he found it, has ruined America's worldwide reputation, has ruined our currency, and been apart of nationalizing both banks and the auto-industry, two failing industries. Doesn't this person deserve to be asked tough questions? If this person refuses to answer tough questions, at what point can a reporter just go for it? Knowing that he has refused to answer simple, easier questions, why not just go for the home run and call out the worst of the situation?

The Great Jonathan Vilma
12-22-2008, 02:49 PM
I didn't say you were stupid, i said it was a stupid comment. Smart people still can say stupid things....it wasn't that i said 'you' were entirely stupid. Just to clear things up with regards to that.

Obviously i don't fun a newspaper, but i fail to see what your point is with that. Please share with that.....or should i just say that i do run a paper and it does really well, maybe that is the better response. Regardless, did asking a question in that manner (it is the WORDING, not the question) get an answer? Did it have any more of a positive outcome than asking it a professional way would have? I don't believe it did. So I'm not sure what was gained...i guess his paper and column sold more, so it worked, but he didn't get an answer.

He hasn't discussed questions regarding his coaching staff because as far as i can see he's been willing to funnel all the blame to himself, not throwing other people under the bus. He hasn't fired people and all that stuff, instead showing loyalty to them. Whether that be stupidity or just him trying to follow through with the people he's hired, who knows, it isn't working, but he's taking the blame on himself. Sure you can ask him about his other coaches, but he's not required to answer to them, he can talk to the people who he reports to. Similarly, he doesn't have to answer some stupidly worded, and in a way, family insulting question, regardless of who the reporter is and whether he is doing his job. Lots of poeple are 'doing their jobs' but the manner in which they do them isn't always the 'right' way.

A coaching position isn't the same as a political leader. They aren't elected/hired in the same way, and the process in which they are fired isn't the same. I see wher eyou are coming from, but that isn't apples to apples.

steelernation77
12-22-2008, 03:20 PM
As a representative of the people of Detroit the reporter should question the continued employment of an underperforming coach who has ties to the head coach. He should have phrased his question in a more professional manner, but it's a legit question.

CC.SD
12-22-2008, 03:31 PM
The proper answer is: "Who cares, I am sooooooooo fired after next week."

wogitalia
12-22-2008, 06:45 PM
I guess there are 2 schools of thought on this.

1 school looks at the question, sees it is completely legit and accepts it.

The other school sees that it targets an area outside of football, is still completely legit, accepts it but thinks it could have been worded differently.

Basically he was asking how does the worst defensive coordinator in football still have a job, is it because he is your son-in-law?

Seriously though, if any member of the football department in Detroit still has a job next year, they should just fold or move or something. They actually make the raiders look well run right now, which is just scary.

bearsfan_51
12-22-2008, 07:04 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Detroit-columnist-mocks-Rod-Marinelli-during-pre?urn=nfl,130613

This is a better video link. It's got more of the questioning that led to the controversial comment. Marinelli is a buffoon.

And what I wanna know is when will the media stop praising Marinelli? Howie Long says he knew Rod when he was in Tampa. Well that's great! Now what does that have to do with his Head Coaching ability and job performance with the Lions?

Why do analysts always fall back on the stupid cliche of saying Rod is a great D-Line coach? What exactly has he done with Detroit's D-Line? He spends literally all of his time in practice with the D-Line, and yet I can't identify one single player that has become better as a result of Rod's coaching? It's so sad that people have to lessen the blow of saying he's a bad head coach by following it up that his "love for the game" and all these stupid intangibles are supposed to somehow make up for his complete ineptitude.

Make me sick.
In their defense, it's really not the national media's job to critique Marinelli's job as the Lions head coach. Everybody knows that he sucks, but nobody cares, because nobody cares about the Lions. The only reason the Lions are even mentioned is because they are historically awful. It's a story about comedy, not a story about football. In that sense, the reporter was in line, but if I were the Lions I'd cut his press access.

illmatic74
12-22-2008, 07:06 PM
Rob Parker is the only guy who makes Skip Bayless seem logical.

Xiomera
12-22-2008, 07:44 PM
In their defense, it's really not the national media's job to critique Marinelli's job as the Lions head coach. Everybody knows that he sucks, but nobody cares, because nobody cares about the Lions. The only reason the Lions are even mentioned is because they are historically awful. It's a story about comedy, not a story about football. In that sense, the reporter was in line, but if I were the Lions I'd cut his press access.

I think part of the problem is that Rob Parker has said and done some stupid things in the past. Most notably the recent false accusations of the Michigan State QB.

If a less prominant member of the media (or at least one that wasn't controversial by nature) had asked that question, I don't think the outcry would be as bad. People know Parker's reputation. He may conduct himself in a way that may be deemed unprofessional, but the irrefutable truth is that the question he asked is fair. His intention wasn't to make any sort of comment about Marinelli's daughter.

To me it was clear that after asking the question the same way several times, he was just rephrasing it in a way that may elicit an actual response from Rod.

The Unseen
12-22-2008, 10:23 PM
I think those who are defending Rob here are overthinking it. If anyone says something in this situation, it's uncalled for. There's a better way to get a coach to not deflect you. Ask "Why aren't you being accountable?" Or heck, "Why do you refuse to answer questions about the coaching staff?"

Bottom line, his daughter has nothing to do with this. Cheap comment. Rob shouldn't be fired. Rod will. Let's move on.

The Unseen
12-22-2008, 10:24 PM
I'll use a comparison that will definitely get me in trouble, but it makes my point perfectly so I'm going for it anyway.

If say a certain political leader was doing a very, very bad job (historically bad), would you be opposed to reporters asking him questions in this manner? Let's say this political leader has left the country much worse than he found it, has ruined America's worldwide reputation, has ruined our currency, and been apart of nationalizing both banks and the auto-industry, two failing industries. Doesn't this person deserve to be asked tough questions? If this person refuses to answer tough questions, at what point can a reporter just go for it? Knowing that he has refused to answer simple, easier questions, why not just go for the home run and call out the worst of the situation?

Someone tried that, and the certain political leader ducked.

bearsfan_51
12-22-2008, 10:26 PM
Someone tried that, and the certain political leader ducked.

Just to be clear we're talking about Gerald Ford right?

The Unseen
12-22-2008, 10:31 PM
Just to be clear we're talking about Gerald Ford right?

Martin Van Buren, actually.

Modano
12-23-2008, 02:03 AM
I agree with Ward. Nepotism is a cancer. Maybe the reporter should have asked the question in a more polite way but he's basically asking "did you choose your defensive coordinator because you thought he was good or because he married your daughter?"
And it's a legit question. The Lions are probably the worst team in NFL history so it's clear that no one is doing his job: the owner, the president, the GM. Now, why do this people have a job? Why were they hired? Because they had the potential to be good coaches or because, and that's Joe Barry's case, they married the right woman?

Twiddler
12-23-2008, 02:09 AM
I agree with Ward. Nepotism is a cancer. Maybe the reporter should have asked the question in a more polite way but he's basically asking "did you choose your defensive coordinator because you thought he was good or because he married your daughter?"
And it's a legit question. The Lions are probably the worst team in NFL history so it's clear that no one is doing his job: the owner, the president, the GM. Now, why do this people have a job? Why were they hired? Because they had the potential to be good coaches or because, and that's Joe Barry's case, they married the right woman?

I agree, it probably could have been rephrased in a much nicer way but oh well. And like some others have said, when his son in law is working under him on such an important job, most people would question the decision.

Prowler
12-23-2008, 01:26 PM
put me down for 'good job bringing it to people's attention but it should have stayed in the editorial section of the paper instead of a postgame conference after losing to become arguably the worst team in the history of the league'. that being said, there's no need for the guy to be fired or even apologize. the comment was about marinelli's loyalty to barry hindering this team.

that being said. marinelli is a loser. joe barry is a loser. they aren't my father, my friend, or my total strangers. they are coaches for a professional football team. and the saints were 11 for 11 on third downs....how the hell does that happen? was that in the gameplan? i don't care if the have high school athletes, these guys deserve to be fired and it's obvious that the organization doesn't want a new coach to be tainted with the stench of this year so they are letting these guys get blasted. this will all be over after next week.

CC.SD
12-23-2008, 02:48 PM
The saints were really 11/11? Wow, talk about no mercy.

Xiomera
12-23-2008, 02:52 PM
The saints were really 11/11? Wow, talk about no mercy.

No, they were officially 11/12, with the one failed attempt being a QB kneel down to end the game.

Please give the Lions credit where it's due. We stopped them once. http://draftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

Menardo75
12-23-2008, 03:01 PM
That was ridiculous he should be fired, you don't make questions personal unless the guy you are questioning makes it that way.

steelernation77
12-23-2008, 03:54 PM
That was ridiculous he should be fired, you don't make questions personal unless the guy you are questioning makes it that way.

by hiring his son-in-law...

Xiomera
12-23-2008, 04:01 PM
This is quite the devisive issue . . . maybe we should make it a poll.

MetSox17
12-23-2008, 04:14 PM
I was completely okay with it. Didn't think it was that big a deal. Thought it was quite funny, actually.

Go_Eagles77
12-23-2008, 04:17 PM
I liked how Marinelli said "yeah" after he asked it.

CC.SD
12-23-2008, 04:47 PM
This just in: This is still pretty funny.

Brodeur
12-23-2008, 05:43 PM
I hate Rob Parker because he's a moron and a lousy journalist, but I found it moderately funny and I don't give a crap if Marinelli is offended. The guy has never answered a goddamn question and he's a horrid coach.