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Texas Homer
01-01-2009, 12:15 AM
Orakpo, Mays,Maualuga.

I like Michael Johnson as well, but I'd rather have Orakpo.

I think the Texans need to draft a DE first and foremost.

Orakpo is #1 on my board. Orakpo is a little undersized, but makes up for it with his power,motor, and strength. He has been injured a few times, but I still think he is the best DE available.

Michael Johnson; Man this guy is an athletic FREAK(like Orakpo), but in a different way. He is 6'7 and has a very athletic build. The reason that I like Orakpo more is that I think Orakpo would do better on the other side of Mario Williams. I think Orakpo has a higher motor than Johnson and think a high motor guy like Orakpo would do more destruction combined with Mario.

IceKubes
01-02-2009, 01:12 AM
Three spots I would like to see addressed early are DE, DT, and S. We need a compliment to Slaton and depth elsewhere but those are my top three. Once we get our new defensive coordinator perhaps we will be able to more accurately guess what areas we will target early in the draft and in FA. Can't wait!

America
01-07-2009, 06:58 PM
Brian Orakpo would be awesome. He's a machine. Maybe I'm a little bias but I think he's an incredible collegiate player and should be even better in the pro's when he develops a bigger arsenal of pass rush moves. He benches 515+...it's insane.

But I doubt he drops to our spot, and I don't think Taylor Mays will either.

HEISMANHERSCHEL
01-12-2009, 02:08 AM
Got to get another DE. Mario is the only one providing pressure. I would love Osackpo from Texas, but I cant think of a scenario where he makes it this far in the draft. I would think he would go quick...

I like the safety depth this year. I might trade down and take a safety and pick up some other picks. There will be quality safeties in the second round this year.

Runningbacks are a dime a dozen. Can get a good one in the third or fourth, I would think.

This is a HUGE year for Houston. To think, if Sage "Turnover machine" hadnt thrown those games, we might still be watching Texans football...

cunningham06
01-17-2009, 11:18 PM
1: William Moore, S Missouri
2: Victor Harris, CB Virginia Tech
3: Will Davis, DE Illinois
4: Antoine Caldwell, C Alabama
5: Tyronne Green, OG Auburn
6: Mitch King, DT Iowa


1: Everette Brown, DE Florida St.
2: Rashad Johnson, S Alabama
3: Fili Moala, DT USC
4: Domonique Johnson, CB Jackson St.
5: Bret Helms, C LSU

Ok here are two quick mocks I've done for our draft, which do you guys like better?

twelvegage
01-27-2009, 09:05 AM
1: William Moore, S Missouri
2: Victor Harris, CB Virginia Tech
3: Will Davis, DE Illinois
4: Antoine Caldwell, C Alabama
5: Tyronne Green, OG Auburn
6: Mitch King, DT Iowa


1: Everette Brown, DE Florida St.
2: Rashad Johnson, S Alabama
3: Fili Moala, DT USC
4: Domonique Johnson, CB Jackson St.
5: Bret Helms, C LSU

Ok here are two quick mocks I've done for our draft, which do you guys like better?

I most definitely like the second more. I think that'd be reaching for more at 15.

I think our best case scenario is we trade down and are able to get some real value with our pick.

I agree w/ the OP and while I'd love to see Orapko, I understand it's not likely he'll fall that far, but could you imagine? Or even Michael Johnson, two 6'7" freaks of nature coming off the edge? Sick.

cunningham06
01-27-2009, 11:54 PM
I most definitely like the second more. I think that'd be reaching for more at 15.

I think our best case scenario is we trade down and are able to get some real value with our pick.

I agree w/ the OP and while I'd love to see Orapko, I understand it's not likely he'll fall that far, but could you imagine? Or even Michael Johnson, two 6'7" freaks of nature coming off the edge? Sick.

Orakpo's workout numbers are gonna be insane, he's gonna go in the top 10. Michael Johnson is a situational pass rusher in the NFL I expect. He is AWFUL against the run, and even his pass rush production in college was nothing special.

Fuzzy Dunlop
01-28-2009, 10:50 AM
I've seen so many mocks having Houston taking a DE with their first. I just want to know, do Texans fans really want another DE? It would give them a great pass-rush, but where would he play? If you get a guy like Everette Brown, does Williams play the strong End? I think he's much more effective rushing from the weak side. It would just seem to leave the line pretty vulnerable against the run, in my opinion. I think they would be much better off getting a playmaker at DB (which is looking more and more like CB, since no S has mid-1st value right now) and getting a bigger DE, who can stop the run first and rush the passer second, later in the draft. Is there something I'm missing?

BlueGoldGreen
01-28-2009, 12:52 PM
I've seen so many mocks having Houston taking a DE with their first. I just want to know, do Texans fans really want another DE? It would give them a great pass-rush, but where would he play? If you get a guy like Everette Brown, does Williams play the strong End? I think he's much more effective rushing from the weak side. It would just seem to leave the line pretty vulnerable against the run, in my opinion. I think they would be much better off getting a playmaker at DB (which is looking more and more like CB, since no S has mid-1st value right now) and getting a bigger DE, who can stop the run first and rush the passer second, later in the draft. Is there something I'm missing?


Mario Williams is definately a Strongside end, and he actually would probably be a better 3-4 end. He is a freak and is probably top 10 run-stuffing DE in the league, while being a great pass rusher. They definately need a weakside DE that pretty much is a pass rush specialist to take pressure off the rest of the 1st round picks on the d-line.

cunningham06
01-28-2009, 04:46 PM
Mario Williams is definately a Strongside end, and he actually would probably be a better 3-4 end. He is a freak and is probably top 10 run-stuffing DE in the league, while being a great pass rusher. They definately need a weakside DE that pretty much is a pass rush specialist to take pressure off the rest of the 1st round picks on the d-line.

It would be a waste to put Mario in as a 3-4 end. He is perfect as a 4-3 DE, and would be wasted at a position where the end essentially ties up offensive linemen to allow the linebackers to make the play. Mario is a beast off the edge, take the Jacksonville game for example. When the Texans had the lead and forced Jacksonville to pass, play after play Mario was getting tons of pressure/ getting knockdowns on the qb. Mario is doing very well, and shouldn't be tampered with right now due to the success he's having.

While we need a pass rusher across from him, it needs to be someone who isn't a liability against the run, because that is a big weak spot. A DE who is good against the run is huge for a defense, and whoever we get to take the other DE spot across from Mario needs to be somewhat adept at stopping the run. That is why I don't like Michael Johnson, I don't see him doing anything but getting pancaked or run outside of plays.

cunningham06
01-28-2009, 04:55 PM
I've seen so many mocks having Houston taking a DE with their first. I just want to know, do Texans fans really want another DE? It would give them a great pass-rush, but where would he play? If you get a guy like Everette Brown, does Williams play the strong End? I think he's much more effective rushing from the weak side. It would just seem to leave the line pretty vulnerable against the run, in my opinion. I think they would be much better off getting a playmaker at DB (which is looking more and more like CB, since no S has mid-1st value right now) and getting a bigger DE, who can stop the run first and rush the passer second, later in the draft. Is there something I'm missing?

A big DE isn't really much of a need because that's exactly what Anthony Weaver is. He is really a DT playing DE, HE DIDN'T HAVE A SINGLE SACK AND STARTED 16 GAMES. God does he frustrate me, I don't understand how he is so poor at pass rushing. We don't need a great run stuffer who can't pass rush, or a great pass rusher who gets run over. Someone inbetween is what we need. Everette Brown seems like he would fit the bill. Anyway we don't run a strongside/weakside DE system all that often, we move Mario around a good amount, but for the most part Mario plays the right side.

jjmt2500
01-28-2009, 06:22 PM
I've seen so many mocks having Houston taking a DE with their first. I just want to know, do Texans fans really want another DE? It would give them a great pass-rush, but where would he play? If you get a guy like Everette Brown, does Williams play the strong End? I think he's much more effective rushing from the weak side. It would just seem to leave the line pretty vulnerable against the run, in my opinion. I think they would be much better off getting a playmaker at DB (which is looking more and more like CB, since no S has mid-1st value right now) and getting a bigger DE, who can stop the run first and rush the passer second, later in the draft. Is there something I'm missing?

Unless we can get a great CB in free agency i dont see them adding a CB. Daunta will be healthy and much better next season(I dont see rick smith letting him get away in free agency) and i still think Bennett can be a good corner. When a QB has all day to throw(which almost every QB we played did), they will make any backfield look bad. We need someone else who can get to the QB. We have no clue what Mario is capable of because we havent seen him with any help. Look at how much better Andre is now that we have other offensive weapons to go along with him. If we dont take a DE with the first pick i would be very suprised, then maybe a playmaker at S in the second round.

Congrats to Owen Daniels for getting to the pro bowl. He should of been in without someone having to drop out.

IceKubes
01-30-2009, 09:00 PM
I've seen so many mocks having Houston taking a DE with their first. I just want to know, do Texans fans really want another DE? It would give them a great pass-rush, but where would he play? If you get a guy like Everette Brown, does Williams play the strong End? I think he's much more effective rushing from the weak side. It would just seem to leave the line pretty vulnerable against the run, in my opinion. I think they would be much better off getting a playmaker at DB (which is looking more and more like CB, since no S has mid-1st value right now) and getting a bigger DE, who can stop the run first and rush the passer second, later in the draft. Is there something I'm missing?

Mario is not strictly a weakside DE for us, he rotates between RE and LE. Having watched every snap of his since he was a rookie I would say he is arguably better on the strongside. It seems like every time he is lined up against RTs he blows right by them, and he makes an impact against the run from either position. The reason most knowledgeable fans would welcome a DE despite all the high draft picks/money already invested on the line is because right now the simple fact is that we have 1 pass rusher on our roster. Anthony Weaver is a 3-4 end playing out of position for us and it hurts the pass rush bad. Okoye has the potential to be a good pass rushing DT but he needs to step up. I don't think getting a 1st round DE will take the pressure off of Mario but all we need is someone that can win some of those 1 on 1 situations they will be in because of all the attention Mario gets because no one on our roster has shown he is capable of doing that with much consistency.

As for the DBs, while we have no one of Mario's calibur, I would argue that our 2nd, 3rd, and 4th string CBs are better (and have more upside) than their conterparts at DE. So if we draft a CB in round 1 that would certainly be an upgrade, just not as large an upgrade as that DE opposite Mario. Fact is that if the value is right the Texans could take just about any position on defense and it would help out, but if there are multiple value picks, and one of those picks happens to be at DE, bet your bottom dollar he will be the pick.

foozball
02-01-2009, 01:33 PM
Robert Ayers or Paul Kruger in the 2nd

both are big enough to handle LDE at 273lbs and 265lbs respectively. Kruger is a beast against the run and is very stout. Ayers is the better athlete and has more upside as a pass rusher, but is a good run defender in his own right.

jayceheathman
02-02-2009, 01:12 AM
One pick I would like but I dont think will happen would be BJ Raji. I love him as a player and him next to Omobi Okoye would be sweet. Granted, Anthony Weaver is bad at DE and would be better suited at DT. Another pick that I like that everyone seems to hate is Vontae Davis. Everyone liked him until Scott mentioned he can be hard to work with at times.

HEISMANHERSCHEL
02-05-2009, 12:34 AM
I agree with everything Cunningham said. Williams is fine where he is, and is a perfect fit for a 4-3 defense.

And as for Cunningham's two mock drafts, the second is far superior. Safeties are not an impact position. There are safeties in the NFL that are game changers, but they are few and far between. Your chances of drafting an Ed Reed-type player are slim and none.

I would without a doubt draft a defensive end in the first round. The more tape I watch, the more confident I feel in saying this. I think there will be starting calibre safties in the second round, but maybe not defensive ends.

One more note, and I hope this gets out before it becomes common knowledge, Johnson from Georgie Tech is a waste. He is an amazing athelete, and I wouldn't dispute that. His physical ability may not be matched by anyone coming out at any position. But his motor is HORRIBLE. If the top two defensive ends are gone when the Texans' first round pick comes up, I would trade down. There will be plenty of safties and outside linebackers to chose from.

Once again***** Buyer be ware on Johnson*****. Don't be tricked by his size/speed ratio. He doesn't play like he wants to win.

J-Hype
02-12-2009, 05:57 PM
what about okam is he any good ?

datchapin
02-16-2009, 04:51 PM
what about okam is he any good ?

Nope. Its a shame how far he fell, I remember if he had come out 1 yr. earlier he was considered a first rounder, then he waited a yr. dropped to the fifth and now he's a fringe player in danger of getting cut if he doesn't shape up.

thenewfeature06
02-16-2009, 09:16 PM
d.j. moore or any other physical type corner

America
02-16-2009, 11:57 PM
Nope. Its a shame how far he fell, I remember if he had come out 1 yr. earlier he was considered a first rounder, then he waited a yr. dropped to the fifth and now he's a fringe player in danger of getting cut if he doesn't shape up.

Is he really in danger of getting cut. His senior year at Texas was his best. He was never going to get drafted in the 1st. He just had first round potential, that's why he was a 5 star and an All American high school player. He never played up to his ability and people always thought he'd take that next step and emerge as a 1st rounder though. He's a smart guy, I think he'll stick around.

jjmt2500
02-17-2009, 10:44 PM
Nope. Its a shame how far he fell, I remember if he had come out 1 yr. earlier he was considered a first rounder, then he waited a yr. dropped to the fifth and now he's a fringe player in danger of getting cut if he doesn't shape up.

it was just his first year and he was injuried at one point. D line men take time to develop. hopefully the new d line coach and bush can get the most out of our d line. i think okam can develop into a solid player, give him more time.

datchapin
02-21-2009, 04:37 PM
Okay, maybe I jumped the gun. Our d-line wasn't that aggressive in playcalling, but as far as our guys performances I hope he steps up. He's got the bulk I just think he should have had a better impact against the run.

datchapin
02-21-2009, 04:54 PM
Well, I think we're gonna land a good player that'll help us defensively regardless of how the draft unfolds. Our defense is good enough that I think we can take BPA. I don't think there's any DE that'll be available at 15 worth the pick. Brown and Orakpo will be gone. DT Raji will most likely be gone, Jerry would be a good addition, but really.... I want a linebacker. There are alot of good ones this yr. and I would hope to see on in our uniform. Cushing, Mauluga, or Lauranitis would be cool. I'm not saying move Demeco, but both Ray and james got the speed to rush the passer from outside. They would give us more versatility and solidify our Linebacking core. Diles is coming off an injury, Adibi was plaugued by injuries and Greenwood was cut. Our other backups are capable, but getting on in age, adding some youth would be to our benefit. my 2 pesos.

jjmt2500
02-21-2009, 08:18 PM
It is starting to look more and more like we will be taking a OLB. The three big name DE are all probably better in a 3-4(plus as datchapin pointed out they will probably be gone), in a 4-3 they are all RDE, so is Mario, and i know that Mario can play LDE but he should play the side he is more comfortable. Right now I think it will be between Cushing and Matthews.

BlueGoldGreen
02-22-2009, 10:33 PM
I kind of hope we take Rey Maualuga, move DeMeco to the outside, and pick up a WDE or S in round 2

cunningham06
02-22-2009, 10:38 PM
If we take a LB in round one I will be very surprised. FA will present the opportunity for us to sign a good FA LB. Two notable ones are Angelo Crowell and Channing Crowder. There are plenty of good depth guys available too. DE and Safety are just such huge needs for us I would be very surprised if we didn't address either of those positions in the first round.

jjmt2500
02-24-2009, 05:55 AM
i really thought they were going to target a OLB in the 1st round of the draft. Now that they cut Weaver and dont have anyone worth starting they must of been really impressed with the DEs at the combine, unless they have someone in mind in free agency.

thank god sage is going to be gone. everytime he would come in the game i just knew he would blow the game with ints. not sure who they plan on getting to back up Matt.

HindSight
02-24-2009, 02:09 PM
Hi guys. I'm not a Texans fan, but I picked them to do a mock just to help out. Here's what I have so far...and I'm pretty pleased with myself. I wanted to come over here to see how actual fans of the teams feel about my picks.

Rd 1: Everette Brown, DE, Florida State
Rd 2: William Moore, S, Missouri
Rd 3: Marcus Freeman, OLB, Ohio State
Rd 4: Donald Brown, RB, UConn


Also, this is an ongoing draft, so regardless of how you like or dislike my picks so far...who would you want to finish out the draft (people or positions)?

cunningham06
02-24-2009, 02:24 PM
True but if we had traded him at the beginning of the season, we would have gotten a third round pick or maybe even a second... DAMN...

I could see us trading down and taking Everette Brown. The FA DE market is not very good since teams put such a premium on pass rushers, so I doubt we adequately address that position during FA.

jjmt2500
02-24-2009, 04:04 PM
The one thing that worries me about Brown is that the last time we took a D lineman from FSU in the 1st round it didnt work out to well.....

TexasKing007
02-25-2009, 02:20 PM
If Donald Brown is around in the 4th round then I'll eat my shorts.

I will guarantee that he doesn't make it out of the 2nd.

2nd & 3rd round picks are good.

I'm not that high on Brown. Depending on who is available, I feel like the Texans have to try to trade back and get an extra mid round pick.

HindSight
02-26-2009, 12:28 PM
Agreed on Donald Brown. I was shocked to see him still there.

Glad you like the middle picks. Those were the ones I was unsure of.

datchapin
02-27-2009, 03:26 PM
JJMT They signed Patrick Ramsey to back up Matt.

I actually like Bulman, and see they're targeting Antonio Smith of the Cards. If we get Smith it will give us the best ability to take BPA when we pick which I think will be OLB. The talent of the DE's after Brown and Orakpo is comparable and I'm pretty sure that there'll be a good prospect in the second rd. (It feels great to see a second rd. pick again!) at DE. Unless Johnson blew people away in the interview I don't think we would take him in the first.

Texas Homer
02-27-2009, 09:26 PM
JJMT They signed Patrick Ramsey to back up Matt.

I actually like Bulman, and see they're targeting Antonio Smith of the Cards. If we get Smith it will give us the best ability to take BPA when we pick which I think will be OLB. The talent of the DE's after Brown and Orakpo is comparable and I'm pretty sure that there'll be a good prospect in the second rd. (It feels great to see a second rd. pick again!) at DE. Unless Johnson blew people away in the interview I don't think we would take him in the first.
Like you said, if we sign Smith, then we will most likely draft OLB.

Cushing might be available at #15.

We could trade up to get Curry, but I hope we don't

We could trade down and maybe get Mathews Jr. That is an interesting possibility.

Texas Homer
02-27-2009, 09:32 PM
Hi guys. I'm not a Texans fan, but I picked them to do a mock just to help out. Here's what I have so far...and I'm pretty pleased with myself. I wanted to come over here to see how actual fans of the teams feel about my picks.

Rd 1: Everette Brown, DE, Florida State
Rd 2: William Moore, S, Missouri
Rd 3: Marcus Freeman, OLB, Ohio State
Rd 4: Donald Brown, RB, UConn


Also, this is an ongoing draft, so regardless of how you like or dislike my picks so far...who would you want to finish out the draft (people or positions)?
I like it.

I'd rather have Orakpo if he fell to #15.

Moore would be a great 2nd round pick.

Freeman is under rated.

Brown would be good. I like RB Cedric Peerman from Virginia as well.

Since we have another 4th, I'd take DB Donald Washington from Ohio st. if he was still available.

5th Roy Miller/Captain Munnerlyn.......Whichever one is available(???If either of them is available???Both could be long gone by the 5th. I have no idea.)

6th Alex Boone

7th QB Todd Boeckman Ohio st.

IceKubes
02-27-2009, 11:17 PM
I agree with both of you. If we can sign Smith OLB becomes the odds on favorite in the first round. That sounds good to me because I imagine that a linebacker will be able to contribute nicely from day one. Looking forward to seeing what this defense can do next season with more talent and under different leadership.

jjmt2500
02-28-2009, 04:21 PM
JJMT They signed Patrick Ramsey to back up Matt.

I actually like Bulman, and see they're targeting Antonio Smith of the Cards. If we get Smith it will give us the best ability to take BPA when we pick which I think will be OLB. The talent of the DE's after Brown and Orakpo is comparable and I'm pretty sure that there'll be a good prospect in the second rd. (It feels great to see a second rd. pick again!) at DE. Unless Johnson blew people away in the interview I don't think we would take him in the first.

Im pretty sure that Ramsey left without a contract offer... They are bringing in Orlovsky for a 2 day visit. I would rather have Orlovsky over Ramsey but would like to see them brings Simms in for a visit.

The signing of Smith i guess puts us back at OLB in the draft. With us hiring Bruce Matthews as a assistant coach, it would be kinda cool to see us trade back a little bit and take his nephew.

gpngc
02-28-2009, 04:23 PM
Wait, what? What about safety?

When you signed A. Smith the first thing I thought of was using your 2nd to move up for Malcolm Jenkins.

IceKubes
02-28-2009, 04:32 PM
Wait, what? What about safety?

When you signed A. Smith the first thing I thought of was using your 2nd to move up for Malcolm Jenkins.

Eugene Wilson played well for us last year and the FO seems content without elite talent at the S position. I also seriously doubt we move up in the draft. Now someone like Patrick Chung in the 2nd to pair with Wilson would be great. If Jenkins fell to 15 I wouldn't rule him out but which one of the two plays strong safety? OLB has a better chance to have good value at 15 than safety IMO.

jjmt2500
02-28-2009, 06:12 PM
Wait, what? What about safety?

When you signed A. Smith the first thing I thought of was using your 2nd to move up for Malcolm Jenkins.

Going 2 years in a row without a 2nd round pick, i dont think there is anyway we trade it away this year. Besides the Texans just dont trade up.

gpngc
02-28-2009, 06:14 PM
So what about the possibility of Chris Wells at #15.

Rey Maualuga and move Ryans outside?

So it's Cushing, Sintim, or Maybin then?

jjmt2500
02-28-2009, 08:54 PM
So what about the possibility of Chris Wells at #15.

Rey Maualuga and move Ryans outside?

So it's Cushing, Sintim, or Maybin then?

No chance Kubs would take a RB in the first round. I do believe one of our 4th round picks will be used for a RB.

I would leave Ryans where he is.

RedLionAle
03-01-2009, 01:41 PM
With Bruce Matthews being signed to the staff, I can see Clay Matthews become a clearer and clearer possibility...

America
03-01-2009, 10:08 PM
With Antonio Smith on board, that takes out DE as a 1st round choice. Maybe we take Malcolm Jenkins and start him at Safety?

Texas Homer
03-01-2009, 11:53 PM
With Antonio Smith on board, that takes out DE as a 1st round choice. Maybe we take Malcolm Jenkins and start him at Safety?

Jenkins would be an excellent pick if he is still there at #15.

HorusKing
03-02-2009, 10:05 AM
The Texans will probably go Defensive Back or OLB in the first round and then it all depends on who else we sign in free agency.

1. OLB - Brian Cushing - USC
2. DE - Connor Barwin (http://hou.scout.com/a.z?s=116&p=8&c=1&nid=3681814&yr=2009) - UC
3. Safety - Chris Clemons (http://hou.scout.com/a.z?s=116&p=8&c=1&nid=3676422&yr=2009) - Clemson
4. DT - Roy Miller (http://hou.scout.com/a.z?s=116&p=8&c=1&nid=3625441&yr=2009) - Texas
4. WR - Demetrius Byrd (http://hou.scout.com/a.z?s=116&p=8&c=1&nid=3627815&yr=2009) - LSU
5. QB - Stephen McGee (http://hou.scout.com/a.z?s=116&p=8&c=1&nid=3571382&yr=2009) - Texas A&M
6. DE - Phillip Hunt (http://hou.scout.com/a.z?s=116&p=8&c=1&nid=3699181&yr=2009) - UH
7. OL - Louis Vasquez (http://hou.scout.com/a.z?s=116&p=8&c=1&nid=3749410&yr=2009) - TT

HindSight
03-02-2009, 11:30 AM
Thanks for the replies.

- Orakpo was gone before the pick got to me. I was hoping I could make that home town pick.
- The first round pick was made on Feb 9th. I think Smith signed a couple days ago? Not sure. Agree that a re-do would result in a different position for Rd 1.
- TH, you really like those Buckeyes don't you :)?

Texas Homer
03-03-2009, 01:25 AM
I'd be fine if we took Cushing at #15.

I'd be cool too if the Texans traded down and took OLB Clay Matthews.

Heck, it would be fine if the Texans took Maualuga and moved Ryans to OLB.

roscoesdad27
03-06-2009, 01:52 PM
1) B. Cushing olb usc
versatile l.b. can play the strong or weakside...great in coverage, aggrssive on blitzes and strong in run support...your front 7 is becoming one of the best in the league but another playmaker is needed at linebacker to help ryans.

2) R. Johnson s alabama
athletic playmaker with great ballskills and hands is prime to take advantage of the mistakes the new look front 7 is sure to create...your defense is becoming scary good.

3) S. Greene r.b. iowa
rugged r.b. would be a great compliment to slaton and give the texans a great young thunder/lightning backfield.

complete mock here
http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1533596&posted=1#post1533596

thoughts?

HEISMANHERSCHEL
03-07-2009, 01:04 AM
I read yall were bringing in kevin burnett for a picnic. I would sign him in a heartbeat. I love that guy. He made lots of plays. He does get dinged up fairly often, but when he is on...he is on.

If he signs, I would draft best player available or trade down. The Texans have really addressed their holes this year with solid players.

I am really excited about where this team is headed.

BurgerTime09
03-07-2009, 02:30 PM
First post....

Well i was pretty ticked off when I found out that Mays was returning for his senior season at USC. So im just gonna agree with everyone else and say that with the 1st pick its either Orakpo, Johnson, or the best linebacker available. I dont think any DB's would be worth the pick since Jenkins will be long gone. But next year definately we need to go for a big time playmaker DB. But hey, maybe we would get roy williams in free agency? :)

jayceheathman
03-16-2009, 01:29 AM
I want the pick to be Peria Jerry. Mario Williams, Amobi Okoye, Peria Jerry, and Antonio Smith would be epic! :)

comahan
03-16-2009, 01:36 AM
Id like Jerry, Cushing, or a trade down for Matthews.

jayceheathman
03-16-2009, 02:02 AM
Id like Jerry, Cushing, or a trade down for Matthews.

I am slowly starting to like Clint Sintim more than Cushing and Matthews for some reason. I think he has more upside than both of them.

Beanie and Slaton would be sweet and Percy/DHB with Andre would be awesome as well but I doubt we go offense in the first round.

cunningham06
03-30-2009, 02:20 AM
A linebacker we haven't really brought up yet that I would love for us to get is Danell Ellerbe. He is really athletic, fast, and most importantly blows people up. Thomas Davis laid huge hits when he was at UGA too, and Ellerbe's game is similarly ferocious.

jjmt2500
04-01-2009, 06:01 PM
The Texans were one of two teams that didnt show up for the USC pro day. I am really suprised since with the off season moves we have made points to us looking at linebacker in the draft.

HEISMANHERSCHEL
04-01-2009, 11:48 PM
It really surprised me, too. Maybe that is a sign they are gonna trade down.

619
04-01-2009, 11:55 PM
The Texans were one of two teams that didnt show up for the USC pro day. I am really suprised since with the off season moves we have made points to us looking at linebacker in the draft.

It's that time of year, smokescreen!

Paranoidmoonduck
04-01-2009, 11:56 PM
It's that time of year, smokescreen!

It's not like showing up would have indicated anything in particular if almost all the other teams were there as well.

619
04-02-2009, 12:03 AM
It's not like showing up would have indicated anything in particular if almost all the other teams were there as well.

Yes, but the point being we shouldn't look much into the absence as a sign of things to come. I fully expect them to take one of the Trojan LBs (Cushing, Matthews).

HEISMANHERSCHEL
04-02-2009, 12:06 AM
You may have a point, 619. But what is the harm of showing up when EVERYONE wants to watch the LB's of USC workout?

I sure hope the texans are gonna trade down...

619
04-02-2009, 12:28 AM
Cushing and Matthews have been widely speculated to Houston for a while now. There may not be any harm in showing up, however, by not showing up it could send wrong signals to the rest of the league. Especially, in the case where another team, for example, considers trading in front of them for Cushing, let's say.

That or they believe Cushing will be off the board and are no longer considering Matthews that high, while turning their full attention to other first round targets. Also could mean the increasing likelihood of a trade down as already pointed out.

cunningham06
04-02-2009, 03:03 AM
I'd prefer Clay Matthews over Cushing at this point. If Cushing wasn't on the field on third down in college I don't see how he's going to be in the NFL.

HEISMANHERSCHEL
04-04-2009, 03:22 AM
I think I like Mathews over Cushing too, even though Cushing looks like he blows up anyone that is carrying the ball.

But I think the value in this draft is in the late first, early second picks. I would love to see a trade down.

I trust the Texan's drafting abilities, though. Based on the last few years...

jjmt2500
04-05-2009, 11:31 AM
Now that we have signed Buster Davis and Cato June we have a ton of linebackers. Right now we have Buster Davis, Cato June, DeMeco Ryans, Xavier Adibi, Zac Diles, Kevin Bentley, Chaun Thompson, and Kevis Coley(I would be suprised if Coley makes the team). Are the Texans still looking at LB in the draft?? I have a feeling the Texans will do like last year and make a pick that no one had them taking....

cunningham06
04-05-2009, 01:11 PM
We should take Jarrett Dillard! Seriously though, I wouldn't be surprised to see us take a DE in the first round. I know we got Antonio Smith, but he is not yet a proven entity. Sure he played great in the playoffs, but he was really nothing special during the regular season.

And as teams like the Giants and the Eagles have proven, you can't have enough pass-rushers.

I see the probability of us taking a DE such as Aaron Maybin being pretty high unless we trade down.

America
04-06-2009, 08:45 PM
I second Jarret Dillard

Texas Homer
04-12-2009, 04:40 PM
1st) Trade down maybe......,Malcolm Jenkins if he is available(Which I doubt). Maybe Raji if he is at #15(Which I really doubt).

Likely Cushing, Matthews or Vontae Davis.

2nd) I'm really really hoping Delmas is there when the Texans pick. If not him, maybe William Moore, maybe Ziggy Hood.

3rd)??RB Andre Brown NCST., RB Cedric Peerman Virgina or S Rashad Johnson(If he is available there).

4th)Roy Miller or Henry Melton...maybe OT Alex Boone

5th)CB Captain Munnerlyn

cunningham06
04-13-2009, 12:23 AM
1st) Trade down maybe......,Malcolm Jenkins if he is available(Which I doubt). Maybe Raji if he is at #15(Which I really doubt).

Likely Cushing, Matthews or Vontae Davis.

2nd) I'm really really hoping Delmas is there when the Texans pick. If not him, maybe William Moore, maybe Ziggy Hood.

3rd)??RB Andre Brown NCST., RB Cedric Peerman Virgina or S Rashad Johnson(If he is available there).

4th)Roy Miller or Henry Melton...maybe OT Alex Boone

5th)CB Captain Munnerlyn

I don't really like Vontae Davis, I just can't see him as a safety for some reason, and I would not want him as a corner. Delmas would be awesome, as would Ziggy, both are players I really like.

Rashad Johnson will most likely be gone by then, but if not that's a must pick. We need two good young safeties, and Delmas and Rashad Johnson would be a great tandem.

I'd like Henry Melton in the 4th, he has so much athletic ability. He would be a project for sure, but he's pretty versatile. I'm not too big a Boone fan, I think at tackle we just need to wait and see how Duane Brown progresses this year then decide what to do next year. We've got enough guys to back him up, so I say we wait and decide if we should invest a pick on an elite talent at OT.

America
04-13-2009, 02:36 PM
I'm a big fan of Miller and Melton, but if we go d-line, it's gonna be for a rush specialist. The paper talked about it this morning, 12 of our 25 sacks were from Mario...

IceKubes
04-13-2009, 10:20 PM
1st) Trade down maybe......,Malcolm Jenkins if he is available(Which I doubt). Maybe Raji if he is at #15(Which I really doubt).

Likely Cushing, Matthews or Vontae Davis.

2nd) I'm really really hoping Delmas is there when the Texans pick. If not him, maybe William Moore, maybe Ziggy Hood.

3rd)??RB Andre Brown NCST., RB Cedric Peerman Virgina or S Rashad Johnson(If he is available there).

4th)Roy Miller or Henry Melton...maybe OT Alex Boone

5th)CB Captain Munnerlyn

Thats a nice selection of guys that have a solid chance of being available where you listed them. I agree with you on Delmas, would really like to see him there for our 2nd. Andre Brown might not last till the third but I could see us grabbing Peerman there and I wouldn't complain. Miller in the 4th is solid and you didn't even list the 2nd 4th from Minnesota. Draft can't get here soon enough.