View Full Version : 3-4 DE's?

01-05-2009, 05:24 PM
Any help would be appreciated with this guys. Who projects best to 3-4 DE in this draft class, and what round grades do you have on them???

(i'd love to see Tyson Jackson in a Steelers uniform next year, but unless there is no value at all on the oline, i cant see them taking a DE in round 1. Any particular players that project well to Pittsburgh's style of the 3-4?)

Thanks peeps!

01-05-2009, 06:08 PM
Unless McCoy comes out...the only one with a first round grade might be Jackson.

Evander Hood would be a nice pick up in the 2nd or later.

I also like John Gill in the 3rd or later.

I really think Antonio Dixon from Miami is being ignored. I liked what I saw from him when I watched Miami play earlier this year a couple times. I think he can be a pretty good 3-4 NT.

The two GT DT's will be nice Day 2 pickups. Walker has the potential to go higher, and I guess be a little better.

Not really an exciting year for 3-4 DE prospects. Theres a few I didn't list, but thats cause from 2010 on we should see some nice ones. McCoy, Heyward, Austin, Oghobaase, Suh, and Jones are pretty nice names.

01-05-2009, 07:07 PM
If Jared Odrick declares, he would be ideal.

01-06-2009, 03:45 PM
Tyson Jackson is probably the best. Ziggy Hood could also be very productive in that system.

01-06-2009, 03:50 PM
altho he has the look of a 3-4 DE tyson jackson is more of an oversized 4-3 DE in LSU's system and that's probably how he will play in the pros

a boy named suh from nebraska could play 3-4 DE in a pinch


in general drafting 3-4 DE high is a bad idea b/c if they do their job they will never get enough production to statistically justify the selection.

obviously if you are NE and draft Seymour at 6, ty warren at 14 and win alot of super bowls it seems easy no brainer pick - most forget they took alot of heat for that Seymour pick at the time.

also why draft em when you can find em? take any undersized lanky DT with a high motor and he's a possible 3-4 DE gap plugger.

Peter Tverdov Rutgers type of guy.

01-06-2009, 03:50 PM
Fili Moala from USC would be perfect as a 3-4 DE

01-06-2009, 03:51 PM
Fili Moala from USC would be perfect as a 3-4 DE

Kyle Moore possibly.

01-06-2009, 03:53 PM
Kyle Moore possibly.

possibly, curious to see if hes physical enough.

01-06-2009, 04:09 PM
Kyle Moore seems more like a Trevor Pryce type of DE than an Aaron Smith...

01-06-2009, 04:19 PM
Suh and Oghobaase are far and way the 2 best, but they aren't declariong so that hurts the 34 draft.

Jarron Gilbert is a very impressive mid round option. He plays very light on his feets for his size and may actually be more of a Julius Peppers/Mario Williams type player who are just really big 43 DE's instead of 34 DE's.

He's got talent no doubt. It'll come down to his mental grasp of the game and whether he takes coaching well or not as well as if he gets good coaching or not.

01-06-2009, 06:57 PM
Its not so much a problem that they are big 4-3 ends, because they would likely only see time at weak DE for a year or two, and have time to gain strength and bulk before realistically taking over for Aaron Smith. And that is the kind of player the Steelers usually look for in the draft, both Brett Kiesel and Aaron Smith were both big 4-3 ends in college...Smith was 6'5", 270, and only repped 19 times at the combine. It took time for him to become the player he is today. Thats what makes me think Tyson Jackson is the perfect fit?

01-07-2009, 12:49 AM
Is Mitch King too small for a 3-4 DE at 6'3 290?

Fuzzy Dunlop
01-07-2009, 09:41 AM
No way Mitch King is 290 pounds.

01-07-2009, 12:02 PM
Is Mitch King too small for a 3-4 DE at 6'3 290?

6'-3" might be a bit short for a 3-4 DE, at least in the eyes of scouts.

I want the Colts to draft King. I think he's an excellent fit for a the 1-gap system, even if he's 280.