2009 MLB Discussion Thread

[Brodeur]

Who the **** let Michael Young over Inge?

[draftguru151]

Hooray Ricky Nolasco is awesome again.

[djp]

wow saw on ESPNEWS that PIT/MIN are in trade talks for 2B Freedy Sanchez & 1B Adam LaRoche for SP Kevin Slowey

That can't be right. Slowey's our ace right now. Trading him would just open up another huge hole. Plus he just went onto the DL. Are you sure it wasn't Swarzak?

[aNYtitan]

******* stupid ****** saves stat snubbing James Phliip Howell.

HOW THE **** IS FUENTES BETTER.

I think he deserves a spot in the bullpen, but is he going to get any playing time when you think that Paps, Mo and Nathan are also going to be in the same bullpen?

[Tampa 2 4 life]

I think he deserves a spot in the bullpen, but is he going to get any playing time when you think that Paps, Mo and Nathan are also going to be in the same bullpen?

Remember last year?

[Xiomera]

Who the **** let Michael Young over Inge?

I smell a conspriacy. hahahahaha

[The Unseen]

Atleast Dan Uggla didn't make it this year

[draftguru151]

Atleast Dan Uggla didn't make it this year

Maybe he can flip it and have a good 2nd half this year. :D

Having a nice game today. Couple of nice plays on D.

[Giantsfan1080]

No suprise with the Mets All Stars. All 4 deserved to be there IMO.

[GB12]

Someone explain to me how the **** Jason Marquis is there over Gallardo

[Brodeur]

Someone explain to me how the **** Jason Marquis is there over Gallardo

For the same dumbass reason that Wakefield's old ass made it over Lee: Wins.

[Giantsfan1080]

Everyone always complains about the fan voting but they are usually more spot on than the coaches who pick the rest of the players.

[Giantsfan1080]

God we suck so bad right now.

[SuperKevin]

God we suck so bad right now.

Yeah we do. It's embarrassing

[Im_a_Romosexual]

Who the hell is going to catch Wakefield?

They don't have to use him, but if they do it could be disastrous.

[KCJ58]

Chase Utley yard

[SuperKevin]

Who the hell is going to catch Wakefield?

They don't have to use him, but if they do it could be disastrous.

Joe Mauer has experience catching for R.A. Dickey who is also a knuckleballer

[Brodeur]

Who the hell is going to catch Wakefield?

They don't have to use him, but if they do it could be disastrous.

He has no place in the all star game anyway.

[GB12]

There's the 239th bad defensive play by Soriano this series.

[Brodeur]

Nice throw Everett.

[Borat]

Pablo Sandoval didn't make the All-Star game?

W
T
F
?

[GB12]

Pablo Sandoval didn't make the All-Star game?

W
T
F
?
He still can and should with the final vote.

[SuperKevin]

Pablo Sandoval didn't make the All-Star game?

W
T
F
?

It was hard for him to make it with Zimmerman being the only player deserving of the Nationals spot.

[GB12]

It was hard for him to make it with Zimmerman being the only player deserving of the Nationals spot.
They should have taken him instead of Howard being a 4th 1B.

[djp]

How ******* good has Prince Fielder been this year? Jeeeeesus his stats are nuts right now

[Brodeur]

How ******* good has Prince Fielder been this year? Jeeeeesus his stats are nuts right now

Not Pujols good.

[aNYtitan]

Remember last year?

Yeah the one anomaly. IMO if a starter comes into a game, he should pitch 2 innings, unless he throws 25 or so pitches in his inning or is Tim Wakefield

[Borat]

They should have taken him instead of Howard being a 4th 1B.

Yep. Manuel took his own guy. I hate that ****. **** the all-star game anyway. The team should be made by someone not affiliated with any team. There shouldn't be any bias. Why does MLB continue to get this wrong every year?

[djp]

Not Pujols good.

Obviously... but for as good as PF has been, he sure isn't getting any attention

[djp]

Yep. Manuel took his own guy. I hate that ****. **** the all-star game anyway. The team should be made by someone not affiliated with any team. There shouldn't be any bias. Why does MLB continue to get this wrong every year?

Until they switch it, it's going to be the same. I take it with a grain of salt. We all know who deserves it and who doesn't.

[619]

I'd be disappointed if Lind doesn't get in on the final vote. His stats are easily the best of the group.

[T-RICH49]

book it Greinke will start for the AL

[KCJ58]

I'm voting for Ian Kinsler & Matt Kemp for the final vote

[Brodeur]

I'd be disappointed if Lind doesn't get in on the final vote. His stats are easily the best of the group.

But factoring in defense (which should be factored in), Inge has been the best. Plus Inge can play every position if absolutely necessary so if it goes to extras again that comes in handy.

[djp]

I can't believe how lucky Nick Blackburn has been this year. And our color commentators are calling him the ace of the staff. I know he's got a sub 3 era, but come on

[aNYtitan]

book it Greinke will start for the AL

Greinke v. Lincecum will be fun to watch

[GB12]

How ******* good has Prince Fielder been this year? Jeeeeesus his stats are nuts right now
Very good. Too bad Albert Pujols is...well Albert Pujols, or he'd be looking at an MVP.

4th(t) in NL in HR (Pujols)
2nd in NL in RBI (Pujols)
2nd in NL in OBP (Pujols)
3rd in NL in SLG (Pujols)
2nd in NL in OPS (Pujols)

[draftguru151]

Nolasco- 8 IP 3 hits, 2 BB, 12 ks, 0 ER. ERA around 1.5 since he's been back, 4-1.

[Stash]

Gio Gonzalez had his best start today, he looked like a different pitcher. 6 IP, 6 hits, 2 ER, 1 BB, 8 Ks. Hopefully with Outman out the A's will see more of this from Gio.

[djp]

Nolasco- 8 IP 3 hits, 2 BB, 12 ks, 0 ER. ERA around 1.5 since he's been back, 4-1.

No accomplishment means anything against the Pirates

[Boston]

I <3 the Brewers lack of starting pitching...

[T-RICH49]

Royals actually scored some runs

[draftguru151]

No accomplishment means anything against the Pirates

He gave up 5 ER last time he played them, I'll take 8 scoreless and 12 Ks. :p

[Brodeur]

**** you Nick Punto.

[iowatreat54]

Jake Fox is oh so very sexy.

[Boston]

Wow. Gallardo got ****** by the incompetence of the Rockies and the Cubs...

[Philliez01]

Gio Gonzalez had his best start today, he looked like a different pitcher. 6 IP, 6 hits, 2 ER, 1 BB, 8 Ks. Hopefully with Outman out the A's will see more of this from Gio.

Both ex-Phillies. Sigh.

Dang, Brad Lidge might be good again. Struck out the side, he got better-looking in my eyes with that performance.

Also, Phuture Phillies (the Phillies prospect site I frequent) mentioned that Mike Arbuckle of the Royals (and formerly of the Phillies) was at the Lehigh Valley game when Carrasco and Drew Carpenter were pitching. Lou Marson and Jason Donald (who was injured) are also on the IronPigs.

My own thought, not substantial in any regard, would be a Gil Meche trade? For Blanton, who's had some great games but still isn't a top-line starter, they had to trade Cardenas (I believe a top-75 prospect), Outman (a solid projected middle-of-the-rotation guy) and Matt Spencer (extra guy, marginal prospect at best).

On the other hand for Kyle Lohse they dealt Matt Maloney away.

Now I'm wondering if a trade of like Donald, Carpenter and say someone like Jeremy Slayden would fetch a Meche? Still not enough probably.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

No suprise with the Mets All Stars. All 4 deserved to be there IMO.


Santana probably doesn't.

[iowatreat54]

Wow. Gallardo got ****** by the incompetence of the Rockies and the Cubs...

Hmm explain...

[themaninblack]

Kind of surprised Cordero is our lone All Star. Not that he isn't deserving, but I figured Votto or Phillips would be there instead of him. Im cool with it though.

[GB12]

Hmm explain...
I'm guessing he's saying that since the Cubs have no one in their lineup worthy of being an Allstar, Ted Lilly took a pitching spot away from Gallardo.

Not sure how the Rockies fit into that though. Brad Hawpe already got in as the Rockies rep. Marquis was just a terrible choice.

Gallardo should be there over Santana, Billingsly, and Marquis. He's more deserving than Lilly too, but because of the one player per team rule you can't take Lilly out.

[Rob S]

This Yankees-Jays game is brutal.......

[Stash]

Russell Branyon and Choo should be All-Stars.

[iowatreat54]

I'm guessing he's saying that since the Cubs have no one in their lineup worthy of being an Allstar, Ted Lilly took a pitching spot away from Gallardo.

Not sure how the Rockies fit into that though. Brad Hawpe already got in as the Rockies rep. Marquis was just a terrible choice.

Gallardo should be there over Santana, Billingsly, and Marquis. He's more deserving than Lilly too, but because of the one player per team rule you can't take Lilly out.

Ah, makes sense. I just looked at the rosters, so I didn't know Lilly was our only one. So yea, we essentially screwed Gallardo. Go Cubs!

But yea, I don't know how you can blame the Rockies. Hawpe deserves to be there and it's not the Rockies fault the manager took Marquis.

[Boston]

Oh wow, I thought Marquis was the Rockies one player. That's just a horrible choice then...

[KCJ58]

Andre Ethier with only his 2nd HR on the road

[M.O.T.H.]

God damn Braves toying with my emotions. Back to 4 games back. ughhhhhhh. Lose 2 out of 3 against the Nats. This was expected. Ridiculous.

Anyway, Diaz started over Frenchy in right for the 2nd straight game. Going 2-4. That's 5 straight starts for Diaz and he's 13-21 in his last 6 games. Bringing his average to .320, just leave him in the damn lineup.

[T-RICH49]

Soria time.3 outs away from winning 2 in a row

[fenikz]

Mark Reynolds is on pace for

.270/.355 48 HR 122 RBI 106 Runs and of course 220 K

[KCJ58]

Mark Reynolds is on pace for

.270/.355 48 HR 122 RBI 106 Runs and of course 220 K

good thing you didn't forget that last thing

[fenikz]

good thing you didn't forget that last thing

strikes out every 3rd ab and homers every 12th

[KCJ58]

Chad Billingsley 1st Homerun

[Brodeur]

Matt Wieters says **** you Joe Saunders.

[eaglesalltheway]

Phils playing well at home= me shocked!

[Donno]

Wow Andrew Bailey is going to the All-Star game nice.

[fenikz]

Final 5 Voting for the NL

Matt Kemp
.301/.366 10 HR 44 RBI 43 Runs 19 SB

Christian Guzman
.318/.333 3 HR 21 RBI 41 Runs 1 SB

Mark Reynolds
.269/.354 24 HR 61 RBI 53 Runs 13 SB

Pablo Sandoval
.333/.388 12 HR 44 RBI 37 Runs 3 SB

Shane Victorino
.300/.363 5 HR 35 RBI 55 Runs 13 SB

[yo123]

Final 5 Voting for the NL

Matt Kemp
.301/.366 10 HR 44 RBI 43 Runs 19 SB

Christian Guzman
.318/.333 3 HR 21 RBI 41 Runs 1 SB

Mark Reynolds
.269/.354 24 HR 61 RBI 53 Runs 13 SB

Pablo Sandoval
.333/.388 12 HR 44 RBI 27 Runs 3 SB

Shane Victorino
.300/.363 5 HR 35 RBI 55 Runs 13 SB

I'll take Mr. Kemp.

And Hines I don't see anything anywhere about Slowey being involved in a Sanchez deal.

[fenikz]

Reynolds has the sexy stats but if its not him it should be Pablo

[Borat]

I'll take Mr. Kemp.



Kemp? Sandoval or Reynolds should go.

[yo123]

Kemp? Sandoval or Reynolds should go.


Kemp has been the 2nd best defensive center fielder in the league this year, with solid offensive numbers. He's not going to win unless Dodger fans stuff the ballot boxes, but he'd be my pick.

In order I'd go

1. Kemp
2. Sandoval
3. Reynolds
4. Victorino
5. Guzman

[fenikz]

Pablo is a great defender too, he can cover some space for a big man, plus he is basically a Molina, and its a fact that you need a Molina to win championships

[GB12]

It should be Sandoval and it's not even close.

[Brodeur]

It should be Sandoval and it's not even close.

With Kemp's superb defense, it should be Kemp.

[Hines]

I'll take Mr. Kemp.

And Hines I don't see anything anywhere about Slowey being involved in a Sanchez deal.

I didn't post it, KCJ did because he said he heard it on ESPN News.

[yo123]

Fair enough, I wouldn't do it but I don't think it would be as bad as some are making it out to be. I like Anthony Swarzak a lot and him taking Slowey's spot in the rotation wouldn't be the end of the world. Maybe this is just me never wanting to see Nick Punto try to play baseball again, I don't know.

[Brodeur]

Fair enough, I wouldn't do it but I don't think it would be as bad as some are making it out to be. I like Anthony Swarzak a lot and him taking Slowey's spot in the rotation wouldn't be the end of the world. Maybe this is just me never wanting to see Nick Punto try to play baseball again, I don't know.

I'd take Nick Punto.

[Smooth Criminal]

Idk how I would feel about that trade for the pirates. It would certainly help pitching and I'd love to see LaRocha go, but we really don't have another answer at 2nd other than Freddy. I don't think Young is good enough defensivly to be there everyday.

[yo123]

I'd take Nick Punto.

Well you can absolutely have him, he's the usual awful offensively and has fallen off a cliff defensively.

[djp]

Why would we trade for LaRoche anyways? We have Morneau and Kubel at 1B and DH... lol

[yo123]

Why would we trade for LaRoche anyways? We have Morneau and Kubel at 1B and DH... lol



Yeah, I didn't understand that part at all. Maybe we want him to play third after Crede leaves? I hope not, I want Danny Valencia there next year.

[Brodeur]

Well you can absolutely have him, he's the usual awful offensively and has fallen off a cliff defensively.

You can have Nate Robertson in the trade.

[KCJ58]

Dodger game is ******* ridiculous they give up 5 runs in the 9th & now were going into extra innings

[yodapoop]

Someone explain to me how the **** Jason Marquis is there over Gallardo

I was actually more suprised about Franklin over Hoffman. I love Franklin and has done a trmendous job, and is defntly deserving for consideration, but I have a feeling if this game wasn't in St. Louis, I think Hoffman woulda been there.

[GB12]

I was actually more suprised about Franklin over Hoffman. I love Franklin and has done a trmendous job, and is defntly deserving for consideration, but I have a feeling if this game wasn't in St. Louis, I think Hoffman woulda been there.
I don't have a problem with that one at all. Franklin has more saves and a lower ERA. Hoffman was perfect halfway through June, but then he slipped up just a little bit. He still has been damn good, but the other relievers all deserve to be there.

Gallardo on the other hand I'm pissed about. There are 4 starters less deserving than him that got in.

[yo123]

You can have Nate Robertson in the trade.

No thank you.

[Brodeur]

The Rangers feel they are above average at every position in the infield defensively? Michael Young is ******* abysmal at third.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

what the **** was that.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Navarro ***** this up in 3...2...1..

Edit: bring Jaso up.

[tjsunstein]

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[holt_bruce81]

Yovani Gallardo not in the All-Star game? what a disgrace!

[Borat]

Yeah, Gallardo not on the team is ******* ludicrous.

[T-RICH49]

I'd take Nick Punto.

get in line.I'd take Punto in a heartbeat over Louis Hernandez and Tony Pena Jr

[BuckNaked]

A's picked up Scott Hairston from San Diego.

[fischbowl]

Well you can absolutely have him, he's the usual awful offensively and has fallen off a cliff defensively.

I've always been a fan

[fischbowl]

A's picked up Scott Hairston from San Diego.

Padres raked in that deal. Italiano, despite his mis-successes this year, has always been a favourite of mine and Webb could contribute right away in the pen.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

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Congratulations Phillies. With Beltran down now as well, I'm declaring the NL East yours.

Come on now. I gave it to you guys a couple weeks back. I wouldn't be too happy about beating an AAA team.

[DHVF]

Well it looks like the Twins are out on Sano
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/07/twins-no-longer-pursuing-sano.html
Sad :(

[Stash]

A's picked up Scott Hairston from San Diego.
I'm surprised that the A's are acquiring players at this point instead of selling. Looking at Hairston's stats, he instantly becomes the best hitter on the team (.307/.364/.547) and he's a righty which is something we need. I never would have guessed Hairston had an OPS over .900, but his BABIP is pretty high. I hope he doesn't crash too hard.

Losing Webb and Italiano doesn't really concern me, I've read that neither one looks like a future starter. I don't mind parting with a couple of relievers especially with all the young pitching in our system. Hopefully the PTBNL is a nobody.

[Smooth Criminal]

Well it looks like the Twins are out on Sano
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/07/twins-no-longer-pursuing-sano.html
Sad :(


I really hope the Pirates get Sano. It will finally be a sign that the team is actually going to start investing in players. It'll be nice to see them atleast try to put a winner on the field.

[holt_bruce81]

I really hope the Pirates get Sano. It will finally be a sign that the team is actually going to start investing in players. It'll be nice to see them atleast try to put a winner on the field.

Won't happen. I'm sorry.

[tjsunstein]

Come on now. I gave it to you guys a couple weeks back. I wouldn't be too happy about beating an AAA team.

The way we've been playing, I'm happy we beat anyone that counts towards our record and in division is twice as pleasing. I only posted the pictures for the many Mets fans here. I had to, JHG isn't here to do so.

[Borat]

Corey Brock of MLB.com tells us that Padres GM Kevin Towers "sounded excited" about the player to be named later, who will be one of two pitchers in the A's organization. One of these unnamed players reportedly has Major League service time.

Interesting. Any guesses?

[themaninblack]

well we really got destroyed today.

[Giantsfan1080]

The way we've been playing, I'm happy we beat anyone that counts towards our record and in division is twice as pleasing. I only posted the pictures for the many Mets fans here. I had to, JHG isn't here to do so.

I wouldn't be too excited as ATL said. Our team is plain terrible right now. I don't care how bad you've been playing because we've been worse.

[Hines]

Won't happen. I'm sorry.

2011 at the latest is when we will be contending for the division IMO.

[GB12]

2011 at the latest is when we will be contending for the division IMO.
You mean earliest?

EDIT: Even that's a big stretch.

[awfullyquiet]

You mean earliest?

EDIT: Even that's a big stretch.

true.

how to turn a triple AAA team into a big league contender. starring HWJ.

[Ravens1991]

that should be right around the time the Orioles start kicking butt 2.

[Borat]

Charlie Manuel, Shitbird:

“I chose Ryan Howard because I feel he deserves to go,” Manuel said. “And also I feel like he’s our player — my player. I feel like our players are the reason why I’m managing in the All-Star Game in the first place. We won the World Series. My players put me there.”

[GB12]

Does he realize it's the 2009 All Star game. It's for what the players have done in 2009, not 2008.

[Giantsfan1080]

Charlie Manuel, Shitbird:

Perfect reason why the commissioner's office should be picking the rosters.

[thetedginnshow]

That always happens though. Only one, glorious manager doesn't play favorites.

[Borat]

Does he realize it's the 2009 All Star game. It's for what the players have done in 2009, not 2008.

Apparently not.

Hey Charlie, what about Pedro Feliz and Jimmy Rollins? They were a part of the reason you're managing the ASG this year as well. What, does that ruin your lame reasoning?

[Brent]

Perfect reason why it should be player voting

fixed it for you

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Apparently not.

Hey Charlie, what about Pedro Feliz and Jimmy Rollins? They were a part of the reason you're managing the ASG this year as well. What, does that ruin your lame reasoning?

God, at least the homer choices maddon picked actually deserved it.

[Giantsfan1080]

fixed it for you

The players vote also and I'm sure they have tons of bias as well. Commisioner's office is the only way to go IMO.

[Boston]

Charlie Manuel, Shitbird:

http://www.quizlaw.com/blog/images/captain-obvious.jpg

[Brent]

The players vote also and I'm sure they have tons of bias as well. Commisioner's office is the only way to go IMO.
Players are often aware of who is doing well, regardless of media/fan recognition.

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Jeff Niemman gives up a lot of fly balls. And not a lot of home runs.

Chris Young 2007 29% GB, 5% HR/FB
Dallas Braden 2009 38% GB, 5.5% HR/FB
Tim Wakefield 2009 36% GB, 6.4% HR/FB
Edwin Jackson 2009 39% GB, 7.3% HR/FB
Daisuke Matzuaka 2008 39% GB, 7.5% HR/FB
For reference Niemann sits at 39% and 7.7 HR/FB.

League Average is like 11%

[tjsunstein]

I can't even defend Manuel's pick of Howard to the All Star Game.

Tim Lincecum's Week:
16 INN, 5 HA, 2 BBI, 17 K, 0.438 WHIP, 2 W
Plus, He has gone 18 consecutive innings without allowing a baserunner past second.

[dabears10]

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=4308751

Could be big news if the courts go through it quickly.

[T-RICH49]

Royals acquire Ryan Freel for cash and PTBNL

[bored of education]

Ryan Freel? CHAMPIONSHIP!

[Sniper]

Fantasy help, plz.

I give

Carl Crawford

I get

Zach Greinke
Nyjer Morgan

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Royals acquire Ryan Freel for cash and PTBNL

Moore has a type.

[djp]

Fantasy help, plz.

I give

Carl Crawford

I get

Zach Greinke
Nyjer Morgan

I wouldn't do it.

[tjsunstein]

Fantasy help, plz.

I give

Carl Crawford

I get

Zach Greinke
Nyjer Morgan

I wouldn't do it but depending on what type of league it is, roto or h2h, and how much you needs steals and runs compared to pitching then I would consider it.

[nobodyinparticular]

Interesting. Any guesses?

Most guesses are the two pitchers are James Simmons and Sean Gallagher. Sean Gallagher seems to be the one with the MLB service time of whom Towers is so excited. The reason he's a PTBNL is because he's injured. He should be back and pitching by the end of July which is when the trade will be completed.

[Stash]

I would be disappointed if it was either guy you mentioned NIP. I really had high hopes for Gallagher. He had some pretty nasty stuff last year, he just had some mechanics issues this year. I realized that we would be trading some of our young starters at some point because we have so many, but I was hoping they would be used to reel in someone better than a career 4th outfielder having a hot first half. I guess we'll have to wait and see who this PTBNL turns out to be.

[yo123]

I heard it was either Gallagher or Dana Eveland.

[Stash]

If it's Eveland I'll laugh my ass off and give the Pads GM a kiss, he sucks balls.

[RaiderNation]

Im excited to see Matt Cain pitch today. Hopefully we can bounce back after yesterday

[M.O.T.H.]

NL Home Run derby group is amazing.

Albert Pujols
Adrian Gonzalez
Ryan Howard
Prince Fielder

That's a sexy lineup.

[SuperKevin]

Im excited to see Matt Cain pitch today. Hopefully we can bounce back after yesterday

I'm glad to see Cain is getting some run support this year. I've thought he's been a top 10 pitcher in the NL for the past 2 seasons now

[fenikz]

NL Home Run derby group is amazing.

Albert Pujols
Adrian Gonzalez
Ryan Howard
Prince Fielder

That's a sexy lineup.

no Upton or Reynolds :(

if only the world knew their power

[M.O.T.H.]

Diaz starting in right again in place of Frenchy. This may be permanent. Fingers crossed.

[dabears10]

Aramis being back and Soriano not leading off makes this Cubs fan happy.

[M.O.T.H.]

This game is over already. We cant get 4 runs...let alone 5 to take a lead. Jair served a few up, yuck.

[Brodeur]

I thought Javy Vazquez made the all star team and I realized today he didn't. What the ****?

[M.O.T.H.]

Not at 5-7. He has been outstanding, though. This is probably the best season of his career but, our lineup doesnt do anything for him.

I'm going to be pissed if we trade him. But Olney keeps saying an Escobar or Vazquez deal is likely. To bring in a good hitting outfielder and a replacement short stop.

[Brodeur]

Not at 5-7. He has been outstanding, though. This is probably the best season of his career but, our lineup doesnt do anything for him.

I'm going to be pissed if we trade him. But Olney keeps saying an Escobar or Vazquez deal is likely. To bring in a good hitting outfielder and a replacement short stop.

He's been one of the best pitchers in baseball this year and deserves a place on the all star team, so it's a shame. And his value will probably never be higher but the Braves should not settle for anything less than a great hitting outfielder for Vazquez.

[Philliez01]

Phillies 11-1.

My mind is blown.

[RaiderNation]

I'm glad to see Cain is getting some run support this year. I've thought he's been a top 10 pitcher in the NL for the past 2 seasons now

No doubt, he has had a era in the 3's before this year but his records was 7-16 and 8-14. Now that our line up is actually decent, he gets to show how good he really is

[Philliez01]

Wow, ballgirl fields a fair ball off the bat of Victorino.

She was pretty cute so it's acceptable.

[GB12]

Haha, good job Fukudome

[T-RICH49]

haha Bloomquist with a solo HR

[senormysterioso]

Cueto with 9 earned runs in 2/3rds of an inning?!? congrats, you're off my fantasy team you BUM!!!

[tjsunstein]

Cueto with 9 earned runs in 2/3rds of an inning?!? congrats, you're off my fantasy team you BUM!!!

I'm sure someone else will gladly swoop him up because coming into the game he had something like a 2.86 era? Anyway, 22-1 Phils in the 8th. Werth just hit a Grand Slam moments ago.

[Hines]

These are the Pirates we all know and love. So far, 4 hits in two games. Awesome.

[Brodeur]

DeJesus/Pena team for some ugly looking defense.

Also, Zumaya/Rodney and I are going to have a talk.

[senormysterioso]

I'm sure someone else will gladly swoop him up because coming into the game he had something like a 2.86 era? Anyway, 22-1 Phils in the 8th. Werth just hit a Grand Slam moments ago.

I would keep him but I've got Josh Hamilton and Erik Bedard coming off the DL

[RaiderNation]

I hope the Giants pick up a bat soon. Theres been talk about Pirates 2B Freddy Sanchez coming here. Adding a .300 hitter to this line up would help alot

[T-RICH49]

Royals WIN!!!!!!!!!

[Stash]

Brett Anderson CG shutout: 2 hits, 9 K. That's the A's first CG of the season.

[RaiderNation]

Sweet Giants are up 1-0 in the 2nd. Sack fly by Schieholtz scores Molina

[draftguru151]

Sweet Giants are up 1-0 in the 2nd. Sack fly by Schieholtz scores Molina

Watching Molina run is hilarious.

[tjsunstein]

I would keep him but I've got Josh Hamilton and Erik Bedard coming off the DL

You didn't mention that part lol. Kind of a big deal.

Justin Upton strikes for the first time in about a month.

[Hurricanes25]

Jason Marquis, the pride of my HS, is working on another shutout.

[RaiderNation]

Watching Molina run is hilarious.

Lol it really is. Did you see the fan who caught that round rule double who got kicked out? That was funny

[fenikz]

You didn't mention that part lol. Kind of a big deal.

Justin Upton strikes for the first time in about a month.

its been 12 games

then 2 games before that

then 8 games before that

then 4 games before that

then 3 games before that

[draftguru151]

Lol it really is. Did you see the fan who caught that round rule double who got kicked out? That was funny

Then he started celebrating. Not sure what that dude was up to.

[draftguru151]

Stupid kung fu panda.

[Borat]

Pablo Sandoval = Grand Slam :D

[Hurricanes25]

Pablo Sandoval = Grand Slam :D

I am going to vote Pablo in for the All Star game. Pablo is just a man beast.

[Giantsfan1080]

Love the Kung Fu Panda.

[tjsunstein]

its been 12 games

then 2 games before that

then 8 games before that

then 4 games before that

then 3 games before that

Felt like a month. And Victorino over Reynolds as the 33rd. Sorry fenikz.

[tjsunstein]

I am going to vote Pablo in for the All Star game. Pablo is just a man beast.

No! Vote Victorino! 4-5, 0.800 BA, 2 2B, HR, 4 RBI, 5 R, BB. That was his day compared to a wittle grand slam.

[Hurricanes25]

No! Vote Victorino! 4-5, 0.800 BA, 2 2B, HR, 4 RBI, 5 R, BB. That was his day compared to a wittle grand slam.

Victorino had a great game today but Sandoval is having a better season.

[Giantsfan1080]

Sandoval and Inge for me in the vote.

[Borat]

+rep from me when you vote for Panda ... starting with you GF1080.

[RaiderNation]

Pablo is a boss

[KCJ58]

Matt Kemp > Pablo Sandavol

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Voted for Pablo/Pena for the all P vote in.

[Sniper]

Cole Hamels showing his all-around studliness.

2-4, 2 RBI, 2 R
7 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 2 K

John Smoltz rocked again. Super.

[Giantsfan1080]

I drafted Pablo in all my leagues this year thinking of him as a sleeper. Boy I'm glad I got that right.

[Borat]

I just dealt the fraud Matt Wieters for him.

[Brodeur]

I just dealt the fraud Matt Wieters for him.

You have no idea what you have just unleashed upon yourself.

[Giantsfan1080]

You have no idea what you have just unleashed upon yourself.

If it's not a keeper league then Borat is a big time winner.

[holt_bruce81]

I voted for Adam Lind and Pablo Sandavol

[Borat]

You have no idea what you have just unleashed upon yourself.

Bring it. ...

[Tampa 2 4 life]

You have no idea what you have just unleashed upon yourself.

Because he's been such a dominant force!

[Brodeur]

Bring it. ...

http://www.moongadget.com/origins/pix2/rancor.jpg

[Borat]

Because he's been such a dominant farce!

Oh no you did-ant.

[themaninblack]

So in the past two games we have been outscored 32-2. Great.

[RaiderNation]

Matt Kemp > Pablo Sandavol

Sandavol
13 HR 48 RBI .334 AVG .566 SLG .388 OBP .954 OPS
Kemp
10 HR 44 RBI .305 AVG .474 SLG .369 OBP .843 OPS

[Sniper]

So in the past two games we have been outscored 32-2. Great.

A healthy margin. I see that the Reds' defense is about on par with the Bengals' defense.

[Brodeur]

Sandavol
13 HR 48 RBI .334 AVG .566 SLG .388 OBP .954 OPS
Kemp
10 HR 44 RBI .305 AVG .474 SLG .369 OBP .843 OPS

It's all relative to position. Also, defensively Kemp has been elite while Pablo has been below average.

[fenikz]

Sandavol
13 HR 48 RBI .334 AVG .566 SLG .388 OBP .954 OPS
Kemp
10 HR 44 RBI .305 AVG .474 SLG .369 OBP .843 OPS

Reynolds 24 HR 61 RBI .267 BA .564 SLG .354 OBP .918 OPS

[Borat]

Sandoval
Reynolds
Kemp
Victorino
Guzman

[Giantsfan1080]

Reynolds 24 HR 61 RBI .267 BA .564 SLG .354 OBP .918 OPS

Based on those stats you proved why Sandoval should make it over Reynolds.

[KCJ58]

you forgot the 19 SB

[holt_bruce81]

Sandoval
Reynolds
Kemp
Victorino
Guzman

I would put Kemp ahead of Reynolds.

[thetedginnshow]

It depends on what they're looking for, but if they're trying to field a team to win, I'd go Victorino or Kemp. Sandoval IMO deserves it more than them though.

[RaiderNation]

you forgot the 19 SB

Pablo's speed is the greatest strength to his game, didnt want to compare his to Kemp

[Giantsfan1080]

Based on WAR Kemp>Sandoval>Reynolds

[fenikz]

Based on those stats you proved why Sandoval should make it over Reynolds.

I agree

but Kemp isnt even close

[Borat]

It's all relative to position.

Kemp
10 HR 44 RBI .305 AVG .474 SLG .369 OBP .843 OPS

Rowand
9 HR 37 RBI .299 AVG .480 SLG .361 OBP .841 OPS

He's barely better than Aaron Rowand, meanwhile

Wright
5 HR 42 RBI .326 AVG .470 SLG .414 OBP .884 OPS

Sandoval
13 HR 48 RBI .333 AVG .566 SLG .388 OBP .954 OPS

[Giantsfan1080]

I agree

but Kemp isnt even close

Based on a lot of SABR stats he actually is in the lead because his defense has been so great.

[tjsunstein]

So we aren't going to include Victorino in these stat comparisons because he's the closest call? What's the deal here? Get the man in this conversation.

55 Runs, 5 HR, 35 RBI, 13 SB, .300 avg, .363 obp, .447 slg before today.

[Borat]

Don't sweat it. Victorino is a lock because the NL outfield has a bunch of injuries.

[holt_bruce81]

The All-Star rules just piss me off. Every team shouldn't have to be represented, that's just a dumb rule. MLB is trying so hard to have the fans and players believe "This one counts"

If "this one counts" Managers shouldn't be worried about getting everyone in the game. Pitch Tim Lincecum 3-4 innings, he's the most dominating pitcher in baseball.

[josh07039]

The All-Star rules just piss me off. Every team shouldn't have to be represented, that's just a dumb rule. MLB is trying so hard to have the fans and players believe "This one counts"

If "this one counts" Managers shouldn't be worried about getting everyone in the game. Pitch Tim Lincecum 3-4 innings, he's the most dominating pitcher in baseball.
I agree. If the game is going to count, the best players need to play. That means no fan vote and no rule about every team being represented. All these espn guys talk about the game being for the fans. If that is the case, then it shouldn't count. Home field advantage is a big deal and it shouldn't be treated lightly.

The only thing I will say is that throwing a pitcher like Lincecum for a full game would be unfair to his team, so that despite the game being important, they really cant fully play the best pitchers. I do think that the position players should play the whole game.

[aNYtitan]

Went with Inge and Pablo on the final vote, very very respective numbers and you gotta love catchers/infielders

[RaiderNation]

Come on Wilson close the game

[Borat]

I hate Brian Wilson so damn much.

[RaiderNation]

**** come on Wilson

[draftguru151]

Good job not throwing home. :D

Why is Hanley not batting. :(

[Borat]

Brian Wilson is the biggest ******* ****** on the planet.

[Brodeur]

The female body builder strikes again. That's step one of the retribution for insulting Matthew Wieters.

[RaiderNation]

As long as we win im fine I guess

[draftguru151]

Gaaaaaah Bonifacio you bum.

[Borat]

Pablo Sandoval should be the closer.

[Borat]

VOTE FOR HIM!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a65/n8ball/vote-panda.jpg

[Brent]

Brian Wilson is the biggest ******* ****** on the planet.
but he had the save tonight...

BTW, Kung Fu Panda FTW.

[KCJ58]

Los Angeles Dodgers: 52-30
San Fransisco Giants: 45-37

[holt_bruce81]

VOTE FOR HIM!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a65/n8ball/vote-panda.jpg

He'll win. don't worry!

[Donno]

Brett Anderson: CG, 2 H, 2 BB, 9 K against the Red Sox.

[Borat]

SF Giants fans: Cool as ****
Dodger fans: Complete dickwads

[SuperKevin]

Someone tried to legitimately argue with me today that David Wright did not deserve to make the All Star team because in his words "batting average means nothing if you're not hitting home runs". I wanted to punch him in the kidneys.

[yo123]

Someone tried to legitimately argue with me today that David Wright did not deserve to make the All Star team because in his words "batting average means nothing if you're not hitting home runs". I wanted to punch him in the kidneys.



Welcome to the everyday life of a Twins fan. Seriously I've had this conversation so many times about Joe Mauer. It's infuriating.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Someone tried to legitimately argue with me today that David Wright did not deserve to make the All Star team because in his words "batting average means nothing if you're not hitting home runs". I wanted to punch him in the kidneys.

It could be a legitimate argument that Zimmerman and Sandoval deserve it more than he does. And his batting average has been falling, and will continue to, so it would be nice if he hit for power.

[tjsunstein]

Someone tried to legitimately argue with me today that David Wright did not deserve to make the All Star team because in his words "batting average means nothing if you're not hitting home runs". I wanted to punch him in the kidneys.

That's when you end the conversation and talk about the weather or something less complex.

Victorino for the 33rd!

[bored of education]

Seriously, is Pablo's nickname Kung Fu Panda?

HOLY ******* ****! THAT IS ******* AWESOME!

He is now my favorite player ever in the history of mankind.

[tjsunstein]

Seriously, is Pablo's nickname Kung Fu Panda?

HOLY ******* ****! THAT IS ******* AWESOME!

He is now my favorite player ever in the history of mankind.

But, but, but Flyin' Hawaiian? :(

[bored of education]

But, but, but Flyin' Hawaiian? :(

Thats pretty ******* ***

[tjsunstein]

Thats pretty ******* ***

That's not fair because you have a bias towards Pandas!

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Can I officially stop caring about Andrew Brackman now?

[Giantsfan1080]

Can I officially stop caring about Andrew Brackman now?

Did he get hurt again or something?

[Tampa 2 4 life]

Did he get hurt again or something?

Season Stats: 72IP, K/9 of 8.71, BB/9 of 6.47, FIP of 4.69 as a 23 year old in A ball.

[tjsunstein]

Season Stats: 72IP, K/9 of 8.71, BB/9 of 6.47, FIP of 4.69 as a 23 year old in A ball.

Impressive.

Brandon Webb wants to pitch this year.

[Giantsfan1080]

Season Stats: 72IP, K/9 of 8.71, BB/9 of 6.47, FIP of 4.69 as a 23 year old in A ball.

Ohh ok. I didn't think he was a good pick anyway so it's not a suprise.

[tjsunstein]

When will Clay Bucholz get a shot at the rotation for good?

[bored of education]

When will Clay Bucholz get a shot at the rotation for good?

If Smoltz shits the bed again. Seriously, who thought Smoltz was gonna do anything?

[Sniper]

When will Clay Bucholz get a shot at the rotation for good?

When he stops sucking.

[Malaka]

When he stops sucking.

Hey you can't talk like that he has a no hitter :P

[iowatreat54]

The Not-so-Top 10 with Mets 2009 season fielding blunders was amazing.

Daniel Murphy makes me happy to have Soriano in LF.

[holt_bruce81]

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/com...-headed-to-dl/

Mark DeRosa, whom the Cardinals acquired in a trade with Cleveland just more than two weeks ago, is headed to the 15-day disabled list with a left wrist strain. DeRosa, who played just three games with the Cardinals before injuring the wrist, was initially thought to be rejoining the Cardinals in Milwaukee tonight for the start of a three-game series. However, after an examination of the wrist on Monday, the team announced this afternoon that he will be moved to the disabled list, retroactive to July 1.
Way to lie to us and say he'll be back in a few games!

Anywho....great pitching match up tonight.

Wainwright vs Gallardo

[M.O.T.H.]

Braves/Brewers have discussed a Javy Vazquez deal. The Braves seem to want Mat Gamel or Alcides Escobar, though. So, nothing may come of it. Melvin said they didnt talk but, several sources say they were talking about it.

[tjsunstein]

The Blue Jays are shopping Halladay and the Philles seem to be a big player in it. I'm guessing they would require a Major League player like Victorino or Rollins and 2 top prospects. I'd be fine if we dealt away Rollins and anyone in the farm aside from Drabek and Taylor for the best pitcher in the MLB, assuming we would be able to resign him.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Braves/Brewers have discussed a Javy Vazquez deal. The Braves seem to want Mat Gamel or Alcides Escobar, though. So, nothing may come of it. Melvin said they didnt talk but, several sources say they were talking about it.


Would the Braves want to move Alcides or Yunel from short?

[M.O.T.H.]

Would the Braves want to move Alcides or Yunel from short?

They'd keep him there, I'm sure. He'd be Yunel's eventual replacement. Yunel probably doesnt have a future in Atlanta after this season. All-star caliber talent but, a real immature knuckle head. He has really fallen out of favor with Bobby Cox and the rest of the organization.

The last major incident for Yunel being...when he was given an error by the score keeper in a recent game. He then started staring up angerly at the box and cursing the score keeper to hell. And then he put his pouty face on and decided he was just going to stand there and not play defense because, he was given that error. He was swiftly benched right then by Cox. He's a baby w/ attitude problems. He only plays when he feels like it, especially on defense these days.

He constantly gets into arguments with umpires, he hams everything up, you cant get him to play hurt barely ever. If he's a little banged up and I mean a little, he doesnt want to play at all. If he doesnt feel like turning two, he just wont. Plenty of time, doesnt matter. I've seen him just step on second and not make the throw about 10 times this year, when he's had plenty of time to do so. Bobby Cox loves and hates him at the same time. But, it's pretty evident that he wont have a long term future with Atlanta.

I love his talent, he's a great player but, he just doesnt get it. His attitude and drive is just not what you want to see out of a player.

[T-RICH49]

They'd keep him there, I'm sure. He'd be Yunel's eventual replacement. Yunel probably doesnt have a future in Atlanta after this season. All-star caliber talent but, a real immature knuckle head. He has really fallen out of favor with Bobby Cox and the rest of the organization.

The last major incident for Yunel being...when he was given an error by the score keeper in a recent game. He then started staring up angerly at the box and cursing the score keeper to hell. lol. And then he put his pouty face on and decided he was just going to stand there and not play defense because, he was given that error. He was swiftly benched right then by Cox. He's a baby w/ attitude problems. He only plays when he feels like it, especially on defense these days.

He constantly gets into arguments with umpires, he hams everything up, you cant get him to play hurt barely ever. If he's a little banged up and I mean a little, he doesnt want to play at all. If he doesnt feel like turning two, he just wont. Plenty of time, doesnt matter. I've seen him just step on second and not make the throw about 10 times this year, when he's had plenty of time to do so. Bobby Cox loves and hates him at the same time, though. But, it's pretty evident that he wont have a long term future with Atlanta.


what would it take to get Yunel

[M.O.T.H.]

what would it take to get Yunel

Young good bats. So the Royals are out. :D

The Braves can get a great return for him. They're looking for just a great well rounded young hitter or even better, a power hitting outfielder. They would also want a replacement for him, though.

[djp]

Texas should make a run at Halladay. Feliz + top prospect + good prospect should get it done. God knows they have enough in the system. That division is waiting to be won.

[bored of education]

Texas should make a run at Halladay. Feliz + top prospect + good prospect should get it done. God knows they have enough in the system. That division is waiting to be won.

That was one of the 1st teams I thought of.

[bored of education]

My 1st half AL Awards:
Biggest Dissappointment: The Indians! ******* Suck!!
ROY : Ricky Romero very close 2nd Ricky Porcello
Coach: Ron Gardenheir (sp.)
CY Young: Zach Greinke
MVP : Justin Morneau

NL will be up laters

[djp]

My 1st half AL Awards:
Biggest Dissappointment: The Indians! ******* Suck!!
ROY : Ricky Romero very close 2nd Ricky Porcello
Coach: Ron Gardenheir (sp.)
CY Young: Zach Greinke
MVP : Justin Morneau

NL will be up laters

Gardenhire shouldn't get MOY by any means. AL should be Ron Washington right now

[Jughead10]

It could be a legitimate argument that Zimmerman and Sandoval deserve it more than he does. And his batting average has been falling, and will continue to, so it would be nice if he hit for power.

I feel the same way on this. I've thought Zimmerman should be starting. As a 3-4-5 hitter, you'd like Wright to hit for some more power. He isn't batting lead off or second.

[bored of education]

Gardenhire shouldn't get MOY by any means. AL should be Ron Washington right now

Ronny Wash has been butter this year.

[Philliez01]

Talking to myself here, but not withstanding three real good starts this year, I'm pretty freaked out about Cole Hamels.

Think of all the innings he pitched last year and while he did have a very abbreviated ST, he has been getting hit around pretty well and hasn't been striking out as many batters as he did last year. Minus the shut out, the 10 K performance against the Os and this past start; it's been a rough go for him.