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Brodeur
02-14-2009, 05:29 PM
Damnit, why are the Braves going to **** with Griffey to Seattle?
Because Seattle has no need for Griffey.
M.O.T.H.
02-14-2009, 05:32 PM
Griffey always wanted to play for the Braves so, I like the chances of this going down.
Hines
02-14-2009, 06:13 PM
Griffey needs to go back the Seattle so I can get his autograph this spring.
Tha Wootster
02-15-2009, 06:59 PM
http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/images/2009/02/15/cYXejMvC.jpg
He looks so good in this uni :)
ATLDirtyBirds
02-15-2009, 07:34 PM
http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/images/2009/02/15/cYXejMvC.jpg
He looks so good in this uni :)
JOE! How I miss you so. If he ever learns how to not get dead arm/get left handers out, he will be a machine.
Giantsfan1080
02-15-2009, 07:53 PM
JOE! How I miss you so. If he ever learns how to not get dead arm/get left handers out, he will be a machine.
He's awesome at what he does. It wasn't Joe's fault Willie doesn't know how to use guys in a situational role.
aNYtitan
02-15-2009, 09:49 PM
He's awesome at what he does. It wasn't Joe's fault Willie doesn't know how to use guys in a situational role.
Listen, it wasn't just Willie's mismanagement of the bullpen that caused the demise of the 2007 Mets. The the entire bullpen faltered down the stretch cause no one player was able to step up and solidify one role.
http://cdn0.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/32341/45079367.jpg
Sexiness, pure sexiness.
Giantsfan1080
02-15-2009, 10:00 PM
Listen, it wasn't just Willie's mismanagement of the bullpen that caused the demise of the 2007 Mets. The the entire bullpen faltered down the stretch cause no one player was able to step up and solidify one role.
Where did I say that had anything to do with the "demise" of the Mets. It was the 2008 Mets that had the terrible bullpen down the stretch by the way. In 2007 it was the starters that let us down.
fischbowl
02-15-2009, 10:02 PM
http://cdn0.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/32341/45079367.jpg
Sexiness, pure sexiness.
I saw this picture and I............
http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2008/12/AndySambergJizz.jpg
Brodeur
02-15-2009, 10:03 PM
http://cdn0.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/32341/45079367.jpg
Sexiness, pure sexiness.
Joe Mauer is ready to give up his best/sexiest catcher on the planet award.
yo123
02-15-2009, 10:10 PM
Joe Mauer is ready to give up his best/sexiest catcher on the planet award.
Never.
I thought I knew you.
Brodeur
02-15-2009, 10:31 PM
Never.
I thought I knew you.
Joe Mauer doesn't have Wieters power.
yo123
02-15-2009, 11:23 PM
Joe Mauer doesn't have Wieters power.
Wieters doesn't have Mauer's sideburns.
sbh15
02-16-2009, 08:45 AM
http://www.jason-varitek.com/articles/2005/img/questions.jpg
great catcher or greatest catcher?
Sniper
02-16-2009, 08:47 AM
http://www.jason-varitek.com/articles/2005/img/questions.jpg
great catcher or greatest catcher?
Ask me when his batting average goes over .220.
sbh15
02-16-2009, 08:47 AM
Ask me when his batting average goes over .220.
How dare you question Jason Varitek's perfectly well rounded offensive game.
Sniper
02-16-2009, 09:01 AM
How dare you question Jason Varitek's perfectly well rounded offensive game.
You're right. It's very well-rounded. He can go 0-4 with a K, groundout, flyout, and lineout four out of every five games.
themaninblack
02-16-2009, 09:08 AM
You're right. It's very well-rounded. He can go 0-4 with a K, groundout, flyout, and lineout four out of every five games.
But hes l33t at calling gamez!!
sbh15
02-16-2009, 09:08 AM
You're right. It's very well-rounded. He can go 0-4 with a K, groundout, flyout, and lineout four out of every five games.
What other MLB player can hit for the cycle like that night after night.
Sniper
02-16-2009, 09:10 AM
But hes l33t at calling gamez!!
He is. :D However, it's not worth paying him that much to be a one-dimensional catcher.
ATLDirtyBirds
02-16-2009, 09:34 AM
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02162009/photos/sports073a.jpg
Tampa 2 4 life
02-16-2009, 09:51 AM
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02162009/photos/sports073a.jpg
Since when has F-Rod been hanging out with Kazmir?
Hines
02-16-2009, 10:01 AM
http://cdn0.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/32341/45079367.jpg
Sexiness, pure sexiness.
Should've been a Pirate.........;(
MetSox17
02-16-2009, 10:22 AM
What other MLB player can hit for the cycle like that night after night.
Pokey Reese.
Im_a_Romosexual
02-16-2009, 02:15 PM
removing pic
great catcher or greatest catcher?
Good god man! Why did that picture have to pop up when I clicked the thread?!?!
http://i.pbase.com/o6/04/557904/1/71969755.CpG6BVfa.puke.gif
princefielder28
02-16-2009, 02:22 PM
Ahh I am bored so here's some season predictions
AL East :: New York Yankees
AL Central :: Cleveland Indians
AL West :: Oakland A's
AL Wild Card :: Tampa Bay Rays
NL East :: New York Mets
NL Central :: Chicago Cubs
NL West :: San Francisco Giants
NL Wild Card :: Atlanta Braves
World Series :: New York Yankees vs Chicago Cubs
WINNER
fischbowl
02-16-2009, 02:23 PM
Braves with the Wild Card, for real?
Tampa 2 4 life
02-16-2009, 03:29 PM
On how many people can fit in a hot tub at the Port Charlotte spring training facilities:
"At least six," J.P. Howell said. "If Percy's in there, we've got four, then."
Dear J.P., never leave. :<
Brodeur
02-16-2009, 04:08 PM
Dear Percival, leave. :<
There ya go.
the_legend_killer
02-16-2009, 04:18 PM
Ahh I am bored so here's some season predictions
AL East :: New York Yankees
AL Central :: Cleveland Indians
AL West :: Oakland A's
AL Wild Card :: Tampa Bay Rays
NL East :: New York Mets
NL Central :: Chicago Cubs
NL West :: San Francisco Giants
NL Wild Card :: Atlanta Braves
World Series :: New York Yankees vs Chicago Cubs
WINNER
Trying to jinx the Cubbies PF?
mqtirishfan
02-16-2009, 04:32 PM
Braves with the Wild Card, for real?
PECOTA > Your opinon.
PECOTA > Your opinon.
PECOTA also undervalued the Twins by about 25 wins last season
mqtirishfan
02-16-2009, 04:38 PM
PECOTA also undervalued the Twins by about 25 wins last season
I'm more than willing to ignore that, considering they (it?) like the Braves.
Tampa 2 4 life
02-16-2009, 04:50 PM
There ya go.
The DL is technically leaving, right?
Brodeur
02-16-2009, 04:54 PM
PECOTA also undervalued the Twins by about 25 wins last season
No one expected the Twins rotation to be that good, or the breakout of Span/Mauer being the best player in the AL/Gomez's defense being all world.
ATLDirtyBirds
02-16-2009, 05:10 PM
No one expected the Twins rotation to be that good, or the breakout of Span/Mauer being the best player in the AL/Gomez's defense being all world.
I could have told you Carlos Gomez was the ******* man
Brodeur
02-16-2009, 05:15 PM
I could have told you Carlos Gomez was the ******* man
He's still a lousy hitter with **** on base skills.
Tampa 2 4 life
02-16-2009, 05:16 PM
He's still a lousy hitter with **** on base skills.
The Mark Ellis school of baseball. THE D!!!!!!!
Brodeur
02-16-2009, 05:17 PM
The Mark Ellis school of baseball. THE D!!!!!!!
Ellis had a great offensive year in 2005.
Turtlepower
02-16-2009, 05:18 PM
Here is my projected Yankee line-up:
1. Johnny Damon, LF
2. Derek Jeter, SS (I hate you Brodeur.)
3. Mark Texeira, 1B
4. A-Rod, 3B
5. Jorge Posada, C
6. Hideki Matsui, DH
7. Nick Swisher, RF
8. Robinson Cano, 2B
9. Brett Gardner, CF (God I hope it isn't Melky who gets majority of the starts).
I think they Rotation is pretty obvious, but I'll post it anyway:
1. CC Sabathia
2. Chein Ming Wange
3. AJ Burnett
4. Joba Chamberlin
5. Andy Pettite (until he sucks some more and Phillip Hughes replaces him in June)
Yeah Spring Training!!!!!
Borat
02-16-2009, 05:19 PM
He's still a lousy hitter with **** on base skills.
As a rookie, yes. Sheesh. He's got plenty of time to develop.
Brodeur
02-16-2009, 05:22 PM
Here is my projected Yankee line-up:
1. Johnny Damon, LF
2. Derek Jeter, RF
3. Mark Texeira, 1B
4. A-Rod, 3B
5. Jorge Posada, C
6. Hideki Matsui, DH
7. Nick Swisher, RF
8. Robinson Cano, 2B
9. Brett Gardner, CF (God I hope it isn't Melky who gets majority of the starts).
I know A-Rod is one of the only two good defenders on that team, but expecting him to cover the entire left side of the field is a bit much. Granted A-Rod alone is pretty much equal to A-Rod/Jeter. And Andy Pettitte never sucked last year, so I don't know why you expect suck this year.
Quiet Borat.
Turtlepower
02-16-2009, 05:26 PM
I know A-Rod is one of the only two good defenders on that team, but expecting him to cover the entire left side of the field is a bit much. Granted A-Rod alone is pretty much equal to A-Rod/Jeter. And Andy Pettitte never sucked last year, so I don't know why you expect suck this year.
Quiet Borat.
June - 3.76 ERA
July - 4.74 ERA
August - 5.84 ERA
September - 4.77 ERA
Ever since he stopped taking HGH, he has gotten progressively worse as a player.
yodapoop
02-16-2009, 05:27 PM
Ahh I am bored so here's some season predictions
AL East :: New York Yankees
AL Central :: Cleveland Indians
AL West :: Oakland A's
AL Wild Card :: Tampa Bay Rays
NL East :: New York Mets
NL Central :: Chicago Cubs
NL West :: San Francisco Giants
NL Wild Card :: Atlanta Braves
World Series :: New York Yankees vs Chicago Cubs
WINNER
Cubs aren't going to win it this year. Cubs win the series=I retire from the site........that may make a lot more Cubs fans.
He's still a lousy hitter with **** on base skills.
he should have been in AAA last year.
I don't think he'll ever be a leadoff type hitter because his pitch recognition is absolute ****
Brodeur
02-16-2009, 05:28 PM
June - 3.76 ERA
July - 4.74 ERA
August - 5.84 ERA
September - 4.77 ERA
Ever since he stopped taking HGH, he has gotten progressively worse as a player.
It could be because he's becoming a pure groundball pitcher and having by far the worst defensive SS/2B combo is making his stats seem far worse than they should be. They're fine at the corners but that won't really help.
Turtlepower
02-16-2009, 05:32 PM
It could be because he's becoming a pure groundball pitcher and having by far the worst defensive SS/2B combo is making his stats seem far worse than they should be. They're fine at the corners but that won't really help.
His GO/AO ratio hasn't changed much the last few years (yeah I know your going to say he hasn't gotten many more GOs because of Jeter). Let's just go ahead and say he is old and his time has come. Also, I really want to see Hughes get some significant innings this year in the majors.
Tampa 2 4 life
02-16-2009, 05:33 PM
Anyway, My Guess:
1: CF Beej
2: LF CC
3: 1B Pena
4: 3B Longo
5: DH Burrell
6: RF Kapler/Gross(Platoon until Joyce)
7: C Navi
8: 2B Aki
9: SS Bartlett
Rotation
1. Shields
2. Kazmir
3. Garza
4. Sonnanstine
5. Price
Pen
CL(usterf*ck) Troy Percival
Relief Ace: Balfour
LOOGY: Shouse
MR: Howell(!)
MR: Wheeler
MR: Joe Nelson
LR: Niemman
WOOOOOOO 2nd place.
Tampa 2 4 life
02-16-2009, 05:34 PM
His GO/AO ratio hasn't changed much the last few years (yeah I know your going to say he hasn't gotten many more GOs because of Jeter). Let's just go ahead and say he is old and his time has come. Also, I really want to see Hughes get some significant innings this year in the majors.
GB%/FB% > GO/AO
Turtlepower
02-16-2009, 05:35 PM
GB%/FB% > GO/AO
I have on idea wtf that is, so I prefer GO/AO. =D
Tampa 2 4 life
02-16-2009, 05:36 PM
I have on idea wtf that is, so I prefer GO/AO. =D
Actual amount of groundballs, not just groundouts.
Brodeur
02-16-2009, 05:36 PM
His GO/AO ratio hasn't changed much the last few years (yeah I know your going to say he hasn't gotten many more GOs because of Jeter). Let's just go ahead and say he is old and his time has come. Also, I really want to see Hughes get some significant innings this year in the majors.
I said both Jeter and Cano's share fault. Hell just look at the difference between his stats as an Astro vs his stats as a Yank where he really hasn't declined in any of his peripherals. That is in large part because of the difference between Adam Everett and Jeter.
dabears10
02-16-2009, 05:38 PM
I have on idea wtf that is, so I prefer GO/AO. =D
I don't follow the sabers but I would imagine it's the amount groundballs hit into play over the fly balls into play. So instead of outs it is all of them. I think it is an attempt to get rid of defense in the statistics and the belief that the Ground ball> the Fly ball because no one hits a hr with a ground ball.
Tampa 2 4 life
02-16-2009, 05:42 PM
I don't follow the sabers but I would imagine it's the amount groundballs hit into play over the fly balls into play. So instead of outs it is all of them. I think it is an attempt to get rid of defense in the statistics and the belief that the Ground ball> the Fly ball because no one hits a hr with a ground ball.
This nails it exactly.
ATLDirtyBirds
02-16-2009, 06:41 PM
Mets Projected
1. SS Jose Reyes (Jerry, if you hit Castillo first, you die)
2. LF Daniel Murphy
3. 3B David Wright
4. 1B Carlos Delgado
5. CF Carlos Beltran
6. RF Ryan Church
7. 2B Luis Castillo (Just ugh.)
8. C Brian Schneider
9. P Johan Santana
Staff:
1. Johan Santana
2. Mike Pelfrey
3. Oliver Perez
4. John Maine
5. Freddy Garcia
Bench:
SS/2B Alex Cora
C Ramon Castro (At C vs. LHP)
1B Marlon Anderson
OF Jeremy Reed (I miss you Endy)
OF Fernando Tatis (Platoon with Murphy)
Pen:
CL Francisco Rodriguez
SU JJ Putz
RP Sean Green
RP Pedro Feliciano
RP Duaner Sanchez
RP Brian Stokes/Bobby Parnell
LRP Tim Redding
Philliez01
02-16-2009, 07:32 PM
My Phillies Projection:
Defense Alignment:
C: Carlos Ruiz
1B: Ryan Howard
2B: Chase ******* Utley
SS: Jimmy Rollins
3B: Pedro Feliz
LF: Raul Ibanez (that'll take some time adapting to that)
CF: Shane Victorino
RF: Jayson Werth
Bench:
Chris Coste (C), Eric Bruntlett (Utility), Greg Dobbs (3B/emerg. OF), Matt Stairs (PH), Geoff Jenkins (RF)
Starting Rotation:
Ace: Cole Hamels
2: Brett Myers
3: Jamie Moyer
4: Joe Blanton
5: Kyle Kendrick
---I fully expect Kendrick to win the spot but be demoted by May---
Bullpen:
Chad Durbin
Scott Eyre
Clay Condrey
Chan Ho Park
Ryan Madson
Brad Lidge
Anonymous Lefty until Romero returns.
A few options remain. I don't think Carrasco makes it but wows everyone and will be first in line for a promotion. JA Happ is sadly the odd man out, though I wouldn't put it past him to edge out K-squared either.
If Utley isn't ready by Opening Day, I'd expect Bruntlett to fill in and Miguel Cairo or Marcus Giles to back up until they get DFA'ed when Utley returns.
Marcus Giles...there's a person I had forgotten about. Too bad he basically fell off the map, he was pretty good for a few years with the Braves.
holt_bruce81
02-16-2009, 07:58 PM
Cardinals:
Line-Up
1. Skip Schumaker 2B
2. Colby Rasmus LF
3. Albert Pujols 1B
4. Ryan Ludwick RF
5. Rick Ankiel CF
6. Troy Glaus 3B
7. Yadier Molina C
8. Pitcher
9. Khalil Greene SS
Bench:
Jason Larue C
Chris Duncan OF
Joe Mather OF
Joe Thurston IF
David Freese 3B
Starting Rotation:
1. Chris Carpenter
2. Adam Wainwright
3. Kyle Lohse
4. Todd Wellemeyer
5. Joel Pineiro
Bullpen:
Brad Thompson
Kyle McClellan
Ryan Franklin
Josh Kinney
Trever Miller
Jason Motte
Chris Perez
the_legend_killer
02-16-2009, 08:04 PM
Brewers Lineup
Defense
C- Jason Kendall
1B- Prince Fielder
2B- Rickie Weeks
SS- J.J. Hardy
3B- Mike Lamb (v. RHP)
LF- Ryan Braun
CF- Mike Cameron
RF- Corey Hart
Bench
C- Mike Rivera
IF- Craig Counsell
IF- Bill Hall (v. LHP)
OF- Tony Gwynn Jr.
OF- Trot Nixon/Chris (Or Patrick) Duffy
Starting Rotation
SP- Yovani Gallardo
SP- Jeff Suppan
SP- Manny Parra
SP- Braden Looper
SP- Dave Bush
Bullpen
Closer- Trevor Hoffman
Set Up- Jorge Julio
RP- Carlos Villaneuva
RP- Mitch Stetter
RP- David Riske
RP- Seth McClung
RP- Todd Coffey
On the fringe- Mike DiFelice, Eduardo Morlan, R.J. Swindle, Tim Dillard
Im_a_Romosexual
02-16-2009, 08:09 PM
Boston Red Sox AKA the 2009 Champs ; )
<-Probably bat here/ IMO here ->
(8)C: Josh Bard (7)
(4)1B: Kevin Youkilis (3)
(2)2B: Dustin Pedroia (1)
(5)3B: Mike Lowell (5)
(9)SS: Jed Lowrie (8)
(7)LF: Jason Bay (6)
(1)CF: Jacoby Ellsbury (9)
(6)RF: JD Drew (2)
(3)DH: David Ortiz (4)
Bench:
IF: Julio Lugo
OF: Rocco Baldelli
OF: Mark Kotsay
C: ***** *******
Starters:
1 Josh Beckett
2 Jon Lester
3 Daisuke Matsuzaka
4 Tim Wakefield*
5 Brad Penny*
* John Smoltz when he is ready
Bullpen
CL Jonathan Papelbon
SU Hideki Okajima
SU Ramon Ramirez
SU Justin Masterson
SU Takashi Saito
SU Manny Delcarmen
Loogy Javier Lopez
Hines
02-16-2009, 08:59 PM
Pirates, Marlins, and Padres are the three teams that have offered a major league contract to Will Ohman. I hope we sign him. He would be a big boost to our bullpen. He is looking for a job with a contender, but they haven't offered and just in the talking stage.
Projected lineup/rotation:
1) Nyjer Morgan LF
2) Freddy Sanchez 2B
3) Nate McClouth CF
4) Adam Laroche 1B
5) Ryan Doumit C
6) Andy Laroche 3B
7) Brandon Moss RF
8) Jack Wilson SS
Bench:
Robinson Diaz C
Ramon Vasquez 2B/SS/3B
Steve Pearce 1B/OF
Eric Hinske OF
Rotation:
1. Paul Maholm L
2. Ian Snell R
3. Tom Gorzelanny L
4. Jeff Karstens R
5. Zach Duke L
Bullpen:
Craig Hansen R
Tyler Yates R
Evan Meek R
Sean Burnett L
Ross Ohlendorf R
Donald Veal L
John Grabow L
CL-Matt Capps R
Tha Wootster
02-16-2009, 09:02 PM
Craig Hansen is so bad.
Hines
02-16-2009, 09:09 PM
Craig Hansen is so bad.
Yes I know, but Huntington loves power arms.
Im_a_Romosexual
02-16-2009, 09:15 PM
Yes I know, but Huntington loves power arms.
97 going in 103 going out
Hansen is terrible
Hines
02-16-2009, 09:35 PM
97 going in 103 going out
Hansen is terrible
Like I said to Woot, I know Hansen is horrible, but with Huntington having a fettish for power arms, I don't think he will get cut.
Jughead10
02-16-2009, 09:35 PM
I said both Jeter and Cano's share fault. Hell just look at the difference between his stats as an Astro vs his stats as a Yank where he really hasn't declined in any of his peripherals. That is in large part because of the difference between Adam Everett and Jeter.
Andy was crap down the stretch last year. He even admits it. His shoulder went dead. He admitted it the other day that he was hurt and took the ball anyway, because we didn't have another choice. Jeter actually had a very good defensive year for him last year. Cano was garbage though, this is true. Although Cano could easily turn it around if he wasn't so lazy, he has the skills to do so.
Im_a_Romosexual
02-16-2009, 09:37 PM
Like I said to Woot, I know Hansen is horrible, but with Huntington having a fettish for power arms, I don't think he will get cut.
I wasn't trying to hate on the Pirates, but I needed to take a jab at Hansen. He has pretty good stuff, but is a headcase and always got shelled (it seemed)
Jughead10
02-16-2009, 09:49 PM
Here is my projected Yankee line-up:
1. Johnny Damon, LF
2. Derek Jeter, SS (I hate you Brodeur.)
3. Mark Texeira, 1B
4. A-Rod, 3B
5. Jorge Posada, C
6. Hideki Matsui, DH
7. Nick Swisher, RF
8. Robinson Cano, 2B
9. Brett Gardner, CF (God I hope it isn't Melky who gets majority of the starts).
I think they Rotation is pretty obvious, but I'll post it anyway:
1. CC Sabathia
2. Chein Ming Wange
3. AJ Burnett
4. Joba Chamberlin
5. Andy Pettite (until he sucks some more and Phillip Hughes replaces him in June)
Yeah Spring Training!!!!!
A few things. No Nady in RF? Or do you think he will be traded?
Also Pettite may be the #5 in all reality, but Joba will be in the 5th spot in the rotation so we can limit his starts and he can be skipped when there is a day off.
PACKmanN
02-16-2009, 10:01 PM
Toronto Blue Jays
SP: Roy Halladay
...
...
...
fenikz
02-16-2009, 10:16 PM
Arizona Diamondbacks
SP Brandon Webb R
SP Dan Haren R
SP Doug Davis L
SP Jon Garland R
SP Max Scherzer R
CL Chad Qualls
SU Tony Pena
SU Jon Rauch
RP Leo Rosales
RP Doug Slaten
RP Scot Schoeneweis
LRP Yusmeiro Petit
C Chris Synder / Miguel Montero
1B Chad Tracy / Conor Jackson
2B Felipe Lopez
SS Stephen Drew
3B Mark Reynolds
RF Justin Upton
CF Chris Young
LF Conor Jackson / Eric Byrnes
Jughead10
02-16-2009, 10:37 PM
I'd say the Yankees full roster will look like this.
1. Johnny Damon LF
2. Derek Jeter SS
3. Mark Tiexiera 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez 3B
5. Jorge Posada C
6. Hideki Matsui DH
7. Xavier Nady RF
8. Robinson Cano 2B
9. Brett Gardner CF (like Turtlepower, I hope it is him)
Bench:
Jose Molina C
Nick Swisher 1B/OF
Melky Cabrera OF
Cody Ransom/Angel Berroa UTIL (whoever wins this battle in ST)
Rotation:
1. CC Sabathia
2. Chien-Ming Wang
3. AJ Burnett
4. Andy Pettitte
5. Joba Chamberlain
Bullpen:
Mariano Rivera
Damaso Marte
Brian Bruney
Jose Veras
Edwar Ramirez
Alfredo Aceves
The last spot is probably a battle between 3 or 4 guys (Phil Coke, David Robertson, Jonathan Albaladejo, or maybe even Mark Melancon)
Turtlepower
02-16-2009, 10:45 PM
A few things. No Nady in RF? Or do you think he will be traded?
Also Pettite may be the #5 in all reality, but Joba will be in the 5th spot in the rotation so we can limit his starts and he can be skipped when there is a day off.
I really think that Swisher will beat him out for the position. Not only is Swisher an upgrade over Nady defensively in RF, but I think that Swisher will simply be better offensively. I really hope we can get Nady traded because we really have way too many OFs as is.
Yeah, that makes more sense what you are saying about Joba and Pettitte. I do think that just because Pettitte will struggle again this year that Joba will end up with quite a few more starts than Andy. It should be an interesting season for us to say the least. So many changes, it kind of reminds me of the 2001 and 2002 seasons.
fischbowl
02-16-2009, 10:48 PM
I'd say the Yankees full roster will look like this.
1. Johnny Damon LF
2. Derek Jeter SS
3. Mark Tiexiera 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez 3B
5. Jorge Posada C
6. Hideki Matsui DH
7. Xavier Nady RF
8. Robinson Cano 2B
9. Brett Gardner CF (like Turtlepower, I hope it is him)
Bench:
Jose Molina C
Nick Swisher 1B/OF
Melky Cabrera OF
Cody Ransom/Angel Berroa UTIL (whoever wins this battle in ST)
Rotation:
1. CC Sabathia
2. Chien-Ming Wang
3. AJ Burnett
4. Andy Pettitte
5. Joba Chamberlain
Bullpen:
Mariano Rivera
Damaso Marte
Brian Bruney
Jose Veras
Edwar Ramirez
Alfredo Aceves
The last spot is probably a battle between 3 or 4 guys (Phil Coke, David Robertson, Jonathan Albaladejo, or maybe even Mark Melancon)
Aside from Mariano that bullpen is disgusting
C Joe Mauer
1B Justin Morneau
2B Alexi Casilla
SS Nick Punto (shudder)
3B Brian Buscher/Brendan Harris
LF Delmon Young/Span
CF Carlos Gomez
RF Denard Span/Cuddyer
DH Jason Kubel
BN C Mike Redmond
BN OF Jason Pridie
BN UT Matt Tolbert
SP Scott Baker
SP Francisco Liriano
SP Nick Blackburn
SP Kevin Slowey
SP Glen Perkins
CP Joe Nathan
RP Jose Mijares
RP Boof Bonser
RP Phil Humber
RP Luis Ayala
RP Jesse Crain
RP Craig Breslow
That's my guess right now
Brodeur
02-16-2009, 10:52 PM
Aside from Mariano that bullpen is disgusting
Not really, just a bunch of unproven guys that could easily breakout. I don't think their bullpen is their biggest problem (still defense).
holt_bruce81
02-16-2009, 10:57 PM
Arizona Diamondbacks
SP Brandon Webb R
SP Dan Haren R
SP Doug Davis L
SP Jon Garland R
SP Max Scherzer R
CL Chad Qualls
SU Tony Pena
SU Jon Rauch
RP Leo Rosales
RP Doug Slaten
RP Scot Schoeneweis
LRP Yusmeiro Petit
C Chris Synder / Miguel Montero
1B Chad Tracy / Conor Jackson
2B Felipe Lopez
SS Stephen Drew
3B Mark Reynolds
RF Justin Upton
CF Chris Young
LF Conor Jackson / Eric Byrnes
Lovin that Rotation.....Max Scherzer is going to be beastly this season.
fischbowl
02-16-2009, 11:00 PM
Not really, just a bunch of unproven guys that could easily breakout. I don't think their bullpen is their biggest problem (still defense).
Just Edwar has that potential IMO. If J. Brent Cox wasn't injury prone, he'd be the setup man now. So much went wrong with major injuries in the minors for them. Granted Cox comes back and so does Alan Horne and Kevin Whelan, they'd have a nasty pen by next year
scottyboy
02-16-2009, 11:03 PM
Just Edwar has that potential IMO. If J. Brent Cox wasn't injury prone, he'd be the setup man now. So much went wrong with major injuries in the minors for them. Granted Cox comes back and so does Alan Horne and Kevin Whelan, they'd have a nasty pen by next year
marte bruney and veras all had their moments last year and have some potential. Marte is a distinguished lefty who actually was pretty off last year. If he can get back to his old form he could be very good for us. Veras may have been a fluke though but I'm holding out some hope for Bruney
yo123
02-16-2009, 11:07 PM
C Joe Mauer
1B Justin Morneau
2B Alexi Casilla
SS Nick Punto (shudder)
3B Brian Buscher/Brendan Harris
LF Delmon Young/Span
CF Carlos Gomez
RF Denard Span/Cuddyer
DH Jason Kubel
BN C Mike Redmond
BN OF Jason Pridie
BN UT Matt Tolbert
SP Scott Baker
SP Francisco Liriano
SP Nick Blackburn
SP Kevin Slowey
SP Glen Perkins
CP Joe Nathan
RP Jose Mijares
RP Boof Bonser
RP Phil Humber
RP Luis Ayala
RP Jesse Crain
RP Craig Breslow
That's my guess right now
I'm more happy about Punto at short than Buscher/Harris at 3B. And Span should be the everyday RF. **** Cuddyer.
Where is Guerrier?
fischbowl
02-16-2009, 11:09 PM
marte bruney and veras all had their moments last year and have some potential. Marte is a distinguished lefty who actually was pretty off last year. If he can get back to his old form he could be very good for us. Veras may have been a fluke though but I'm holding out some hope for Bruney
Lest you forget Bruney and Veres have both been around the block a few times. Bruney I do feel still has potential.
Dan Giese is another name to add into the hat. Interesting player
fischbowl
02-16-2009, 11:12 PM
I'm more happy about Punto at short than Buscher/Harris at 3B. And Span should be the everyday RF. **** Cuddyer.
I love Punto. In fact while I was in Minnesota I bought myself a Punto T-Shirt Jersey.
While not the best starter, he's a very hard nosed player who hustles all over the field. Loved that the Twins got him back.
scottyboy
02-16-2009, 11:13 PM
Lest you forget Bruney and Veres have both been around the block a few times. Bruney I do feel still has potential.
Dan Giese is another name to add into the hat. Interesting player
i LOOOOOOOOVE Dan Giese. he's that obscure guy who I love. He's the man, I hope we keep him to be a long relief guy in the pen.
I think Bruney can be good, and unfortunately, I think Veras may have been a fluke last year, but we'll see...
Giantsfan1080
02-16-2009, 11:28 PM
While the Yanks bullpen does have potential it also has the ability to flop big time. When you put together a team like the Yanks did do you really want a bunch of guys that might break out. It seems a little short sighted to me.
fischbowl
02-16-2009, 11:35 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Oil-Can-Boyd-wants-another-chance-at-the-bigs-at?urn=mlb,141780
Borat
02-16-2009, 11:37 PM
LOL. Dan Giese.
Giantsfan1080
02-16-2009, 11:38 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Oil-Can-Boyd-wants-another-chance-at-the-bigs-at?urn=mlb,141780
Haha. Him, Jesse Orosco, and Rickey Henderson can shop themselves as a group.
aNYtitan
02-16-2009, 11:42 PM
While the Yanks bullpen does have potential it also has the ability to flop big time. When you put together a team like the Yanks did do you really want a bunch of guys that might break out. It seems a little short sighted to me.
Listen, if the Yankees could they would go out and sign K-Rod and Fuentes and trade for J.J., but hey they arent that inconsiderate. Their bullpen is quite solid IMO, with Veras and Marte as the setup men with Edwar and Bruney playing middle relief. Coke I think has the potential to be a lock down LOOGY with Giese as the other long man. They have already broken out last season, what data do you have that they will all of a sudden falter?
fischbowl
02-16-2009, 11:44 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=502
Mariners, 1st Round Pick RHP Josh Fields agree to terms. And just like that the M's farm system got 5 times better
Giantsfan1080
02-16-2009, 11:48 PM
Listen, if the Yankees could they would go out and sign K-Rod and Fuentes and trade for J.J., but hey they arent that inconsiderate. Their bullpen is quite solid IMO, with Veras and Marte as the setup men with Edwar and Bruney playing middle relief. Coke I think has the potential to be a lock down LOOGY with Giese as the other long man. They have already broken out last season, what data do you have that they will all of a sudden falter?
Let's see them do it for a little more than a season before we consider them proven. Bullpens can go from great to terrible in one year and vice versa. Marte was pretty bad when he arrived from the Pirates last year and the other guys have only about a years experience. It's just too much of an unknown at this point.
Turtlepower
02-16-2009, 11:50 PM
Just gotta say, at least we don't have Joe Torre running our bullpen anymore. Poor Scott Proctor. =(
iowatreat54
02-16-2009, 11:51 PM
Just gotta say, at least we don't have Joe Torre running our bullpen anymore. Poor Scott Proctor. =(
At least you don't have Dusty Baker running your starting rotation.
If I'm a Reds fan, I'm scared to death for Volquez and Cueto.
Giantsfan1080
02-16-2009, 11:51 PM
Just gotta say, at least we don't have Joe Torre running our bullpen anymore. Poor Scott Proctor. =(
That's what really makes Mariano Rivera the greatest. He was amazing and survived Joe Torre. They should put that on his plaque in the HOF.
Turtlepower
02-16-2009, 11:55 PM
That's what really makes Mariano Rivera the greatest. He was amazing and survived Joe Torre. They should put that on his plaque in the HOF.
Scott Proctor, Paul Quantrill and Tanyon Sturtz all should sue Torre for worker's comp.
Borat
02-17-2009, 12:00 AM
I'd post a Giants lineup, but I don't know who the **** is playing third base. Oh and it's also slightly embarrassing.
Giantsfan1080
02-17-2009, 12:00 AM
I'd post a Giants lineup, but I don't know who the **** is playing third base. Oh and it's also slightly embarrassing.
Sign Crede already.
iowatreat54
02-17-2009, 12:03 AM
I'd post a Giants lineup, but I don't know who the **** is playing third base. Oh and it's also slightly embarrassing.
Lincecum will play all positions and bat 1-9. Done without embarrassment.
Borat
02-17-2009, 12:19 AM
Sign Crede already.
It doesn't seem like it's going to happen. This has been the strangest MLB offseason I've ever seen. Hell, ST is starting and Manny freakin Ramirez is unsigned.
I'm more happy about Punto at short than Buscher/Harris at 3B. And Span should be the everyday RF. **** Cuddyer.
Where is Guerrier?
Buscher/Harris platoon can put up league average numbers. Punto can't.
And I forgot Guerrier.
Stash
02-17-2009, 01:31 AM
I'd post a Giants lineup, but I don't know who the **** is playing third base. Oh and it's also slightly embarrassing.
Is Sandoval at 3rd?
A's Roster:
C Suzuki
1B Giambi
2B Ellis
SS Crosby
3B Chavez
LF Holliday
CF Sweeney
RF Buck/Cunningham
DH Cust
BN C Bowen
BN OF Cunningham/Buck
BN 3B Hannahan
BN UT Patterson
BN 1B Barton
(^I think I listed too many bench guys lol, oh well)
SP The Duke
SP Gallagher
SP Eveland
SP Braden
SP Gio/Outman
CL Devine
CL Ziegler (yeah, I know I listed 2 closers)
RP Springer
RP Wuertz
RP Casilla
RP Blevins
RP Outman/Gio
comahan
02-17-2009, 01:46 AM
Houston
C Humberto Quintero
1B Lance Berkman
2B Kazuo Matsui
SS Miguel Tejada
3B Geoff Blum
LF Carlos Lee
CF Michael Bourn
RF Hunter Pence
BN Toby Hall C
BN Aaron Boone 3B
BN Edwin Maysonet IF
BN Darin Erstad OF
BN Jason Michaels OF
(Marc Saccomanno, Drew Sutton, Tommy Manzella, Matt Kata, Reggie Abercrombie, Yordany Ramirez, Lou Palmisano)
1. Roy Oswalt
2. Wandy Rodruiguez
3. Brian Moehler
4. Mike Hampton
5. Brandon Backe
(Alberto Arias, Russ Ortiz, Jose Capellen, Bud Norris, Brad James)
CL Jose Valverde
RHP Doug Brocail
RHP Geoff Geary
LHP Wesley Wright
RHP Chris Sampson
LHP Tim Byrdak
RHP LaTroy Hawkins
(Gilbert De La Vera, Clay Hensley, Danny Graves, Polin Trinidad, Sammy Gervacio, Fernando Nieve, Felipe Paulino)
Hurricanes25
02-17-2009, 01:47 AM
Scott Proctor, Paul Quantrill and Tanyon Sturtz all should sue Torre for worker's comp.
Torre overworked these guys. They pitched like every night.
Should I even bother with posting the Jays team? Our rotation after Halladay is a huge mess. I'm not kidding either, at least until McGowan comes back in May.
Hurricanes25
02-17-2009, 01:55 AM
Should I even bother with posting the Jays team? Our rotation after Halladay is a huge mess. I'm not kidding either, at least until McGowan comes back in May.
Mcgowan is a beast. This guy has so much potential.
Mcgowan is a beast. This guy has so much potential.
Yeah, far too inconsistent even to this point in his career. I would like him to lock down the #2 spot in our rotation for the next few years, now that Burnett is gone.
Hurricanes25
02-17-2009, 02:02 AM
Yeah, far too inconsistent even to this point in his career. I would like him to lock down the #2 spot in our rotation for the next few years, now that Burnett is gone.
I hope he becomes more consistent. I plan on taking him in my fantasy baseball draft and I hope he puts up some big numbers.
nobodyinparticular
02-17-2009, 04:24 AM
I'd say the Yankees full roster will look like this.
1. Johnny Damon LF
2. Derek Jeter SS
3. Mark Tiexiera 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez 3B
5. Jorge Posada C
6. Hideki Matsui DH
7. Xavier Nady RF
8. Robinson Cano 2B
9. Brett Gardner CF (like Turtlepower, I hope it is him)
Bench:
Jose Molina C
Nick Swisher 1B/OF
Melky Cabrera OF
Cody Ransom/Angel Berroa UTIL (whoever wins this battle in ST)
Rotation:
1. CC Sabathia
2. Chien-Ming Wang
3. AJ Burnett
4. Andy Pettitte
5. Joba Chamberlain
Bullpen:
Mariano Rivera
Damaso Marte
Brian Bruney
Jose Veras
Edwar Ramirez
Alfredo Aceves
The last spot is probably a battle between 3 or 4 guys (Phil Coke, David Robertson, Jonathan Albaladejo, or maybe even Mark Melancon)
I bet that the Yankees will yo-yo Kennedy and Hughes this year with injuries throughout the year to Burnett, Pettitte and Chamberlain.
Scotty D
02-17-2009, 04:34 AM
Detroit Tigers!
C - Gerald Laird
1B- Miguel Cabrera
2B- Placido Polanco
SS- Adam Everett
3B- Brandon Inge
LF- Carlos Guillen
CF- Curtis Granderson
RF- Magglio Ordonez
DH- Gary Sheffield
BN- Matt Treanor
BN- Marcus Thames
BN- Ramon Santiago
BN- Clete Thomas
Rotation
1.Justin Verlander
2.Armando Galarraga
3.Jeremy Bonderman
4.Edwin Jackson
5.Dontrelle Willis
LR - Nate Roberston
RP - Zack Miner
RP - Fernando Rodney
RP - Joel Zumaya
LP - Bobby Seay
CL - Brandon Lyon
Tampa 2 4 life
02-17-2009, 08:03 AM
Rotation
1.Justin Verlander
2.Armando Galarraga
3.Jeremy Bonderman
4.Edwin Jackson
5.Dontrelle Willis
Here's a fun test:
Detroit Tiger Staff's war according to tRA(Last Year): 4.3
Derek Lowe: 6.1
I find it amusing that the 2nd best SP on FA this year is better than the entire Detroit rotation combined.
Basically, if you Put Derek lowe and 4 clones of Jeremy Sower on Detroit, they'd be expected to win 2 more games than otherwise.
tjsunstein
02-17-2009, 08:25 AM
My Phillies Projection:
Defense Alignment:
C: Carlos Ruiz
1B: Ryan Howard
2B: Chase ******* Utley
SS: Jimmy Rollins
3B: Pedro Feliz
LF: Raul Ibanez (that'll take some time adapting to that)
CF: Shane Victorino
RF: Jayson Werth
Bench:
Chris Coste (C), Eric Bruntlett (Utility), Greg Dobbs (3B/emerg. OF), Matt Stairs (PH), Geoff Jenkins (RF)
Starting Rotation:
Ace: Cole Hamels
2: Brett Myers
3: Jamie Moyer
4: Joe Blanton
5: Kyle Kendrick
---I fully expect Kendrick to win the spot but be demoted by May---
Bullpen:
Chad Durbin
Scott Eyre
Clay Condrey
Chan Ho Park
Ryan Madson
Brad Lidge
Anonymous Lefty until Romero returns.
A few options remain. I don't think Carrasco makes it but wows everyone and will be first in line for a promotion. JA Happ is sadly the odd man out, though I wouldn't put it past him to edge out K-squared either.
If Utley isn't ready by Opening Day, I'd expect Bruntlett to fill in and Miguel Cairo or Marcus Giles to back up until they get DFA'ed when Utley returns.
I agree with most of this. Pedro Feliz is 50/50 for opening day, so I think Bruntlett or Dobbs fills in for him. I actually think that Kendrick will be #5 but whoever is the odd man out, I wouldnt be surprised to see them traded even though Happ was at peak value last season. I'd also switch up Moyer and Blanton in the rotation even though it seems like the logical thing to go L, R, L, Moyer is going to need added rest. For the early call ups, I like Carassco, Mayberry, and Donald.
Where do we have Paulino playing as of right now??? On the official Phillies.com, it has him as the third catcher.
bored of education
02-17-2009, 08:55 AM
Tribe has Kerry Wood and Carl Pavano. Add that to some Grady Sizemore and you have the fomrula for a World Series Championship!
So who the hell would be Tribe starters 3-5? Laffey, Pavano, Ryes, Huff? Who the ****!?!?!?!?!?!
Jughead10
02-17-2009, 09:40 AM
Aside from Mariano that bullpen is disgusting
It is basically the same bullpen we had last year, which was excellent.
fischbowl
02-17-2009, 09:41 AM
Houston
C Humberto Quintero
1B Lance Berkman
2B Kazuo Matsui
SS Miguel Tejada
3B Geoff Blum
LF Carlos Lee
CF Michael Bourn
RF Hunter Pence
BN Toby Hall C
BN Aaron Boone 3B
BN Edwin Maysonet IF
BN Darin Erstad OF
BN Jason Michaels OF
(Marc Saccomanno, Drew Sutton, Tommy Manzella, Matt Kata, Reggie Abercrombie, Yordany Ramirez, Lou Palmisano)
1. Roy Oswalt
2. Wandy Rodruiguez
3. Brian Moehler
4. Mike Hampton
5. Brandon Backe
(Alberto Arias, Russ Ortiz, Jose Capellen, Bud Norris, Brad James)
CL Jose Valverde
RHP Doug Brocail
RHP Geoff Geary
LHP Wesley Wright
RHP Chris Sampson
LHP Tim Byrdak
RHP LaTroy Hawkins
(Gilbert De La Vera, Clay Hensley, Danny Graves, Polin Trinidad, Sammy Gervacio, Fernando Nieve, Felipe Paulino)
I'd love to see Saccomano/Tommy Manzella make the team. Sammy Gervacio has long been a favorite
Jughead10
02-17-2009, 09:44 AM
I bet that the Yankees will yo-yo Kennedy and Hughes this year with injuries throughout the year to Burnett, Pettitte and Chamberlain.
Yup, that seems to be the plan. Hughes will go to AAA so he can get some innings and constant work every five days. He'll get the call if or when someone gets hurt. I'd expect him to get 10 starts this year for the Yankees.
Sign Crede already.
From all indications, it seems like the Twins are really the only team still in the hunt for him.
Tampa 2 4 life
02-17-2009, 09:57 AM
It is basically the same bullpen we had last year, which was excellent.
Excellent is a bit strong, but it was at least average.
Jughead10
02-17-2009, 10:00 AM
Excellent is a bit strong, but it was at least average.
I don't know what the league numbers were at the end of the year. Marte actaully probably hurt our bullpens numbers when we traded for him. But for most of the season we were one of the best two bullpens in the league.
Hurricanes25
02-17-2009, 10:39 AM
The Yankees bullpen is very underrated.
Jughead10
02-17-2009, 10:52 AM
The Yankees bullpen is very underrated.
I'm just excited about hopefully have Bruney for the whole year. He seems to have really turned the corner last year, once he quit drinking and lost all that weight. I fully expect him to grab the 8th inning spot so Girardi can use Marte in more situational matchups.
Hurricanes25
02-17-2009, 10:56 AM
I'm just excited about hopefully have Bruney for the whole year. He seems to have really turned the corner last year, once he quit drinking and lost all that weight. I fully expect him to grab the 8th inning spot so Girardi can use Marte in more situational matchups.
I think Edwar Ramirez is going to have a big seson. Sometimes he looks unhittable but sometimes he is awful. If he gets some consistency he can become a set up man for us.
Jughead10
02-17-2009, 11:02 AM
I think Edwar Ramirez is going to have a big seson. Sometimes he looks unhittable but sometimes he is awful. If he gets some consistency he can become a set up man for us.
His numbers and strike out rates have always been great. But he is a prime example of a player whose numbers are deceiving. I fear players have caught up to him a bit. He pitches backwards. Gets his ordinary fastball by players because of his changeup. Makes AAA an AA hitters look absolutely foolish, but big leaguers have caught up to him a bit. I think he'll be a decent guy in the bullpen, but I don't think he'll ever grab one of the top three spots.
awfullyquiet
02-17-2009, 11:10 AM
The Yankees bullpen is very underrated.
Yankees are underrated in every facet of the game.
Except in defense. Their DEFENSE is so good. Especially that Jeter kid. He puts in a lot of hustle.
Jughead10
02-17-2009, 11:16 AM
Yankees are underrated in every facet of the game.
Except in defense. Their DEFENSE is so good. Especially that Jeter kid. He puts in a lot of hustle.
And even the defense will be improving with Tex and possibly a majority of the games in CF played by Gardner. And maybe or maybe not Cano might pull his head out of his ass.
Philliez01
02-17-2009, 11:17 AM
I agree with most of this. Pedro Feliz is 50/50 for opening day, so I think Bruntlett or Dobbs fills in for him. I actually think that Kendrick will be #5 but whoever is the odd man out, I wouldnt be surprised to see them traded even though Happ was at peak value last season. I'd also switch up Moyer and Blanton in the rotation even though it seems like the logical thing to go L, R, L, Moyer is going to need added rest. For the early call ups, I like Carassco, Mayberry, and Donald.
Where do we have Paulino playing as of right now??? On the official Phillies.com, it has him as the third catcher.
I think Paulino could edge out Coste for the backup C role, but I would think Coste would get the nod over him. It does suck for Happ though.
I do agree with your callups, Donald is so tempting to bring up but there would be no use wasting a call-up for a still-developing player for only a few games. Harman is more likely, though I hope Donald has the arm for 3B.
Hurricanes25
02-17-2009, 11:20 AM
And even the defense will be improving with Tex and possibly a majority of the games in CF played by Gardner. And maybe or maybe not Cano might pull his head out of his ass.
Once Cano pulls his head out of his ass, we are going to have a great player.
awfullyquiet
02-17-2009, 11:20 AM
And even the defense will be improving with Tex and possibly a majority of the games in CF played by Gardner. And maybe or maybe not Cano might pull his head out of his ass.
All remains be seen.
Especially since the yankees will probably end up in 3rd in the east again.
bored of education
02-17-2009, 11:25 AM
All remains be seen.
Especially since the yankees will probably end up in 3rd in the east again.
Who do you think wins the east, Red Sawx?
Giantsfan1080
02-17-2009, 11:29 AM
Once Cano pulls his head out of his ass, we are going to have a great player.
You mean if, not once.
Turtlepower
02-17-2009, 12:06 PM
A-Rod career lowlights: http://www.theonion.com/content/infograph/a_rods_career_lowlights
nobodyinparticular
02-17-2009, 12:22 PM
Quick and dirty A's lineup:
1. Ryan Sweeney/Travis Buck CF
2. Jack Cust/Travis Buck RF/DH
3. Matt Holliday LF
4. Jason Giambi DH/1B
5. Eric Chavez 3B
6. Kurt Suzuki C
7. Mark Ellis 2B
8. Daric Barton 1B
9. Bobby Crosby SS
Bench: Travis Buck RF/LF (will split time with Cust and Sweeney)
Bench: Cliff Pennington INF
Bench: Rajai Davis Speed
Bench: Rob Bowen C
1: Justin Duchscherer
2: Dana Eveland
3: Sean Gallagher
4: Dallas Braden
5: Gio Gonzalez
CL Joey Devine
CL Brad Zeigler
RP Josh Outman
RP Santiago Casilla
RP Russ Springer
RP Jerry Blevins
RP Michael Wuertz
Mid-season callups: Andrew Carignan (RP), Brett Anderson, Trevor Cahill, Aaron Cunningham, Gregorio Petit
Turtlepower
02-17-2009, 12:25 PM
Let's go Travis Buck. I hope to see another ASU player succeed in the big leagues (except Dustin Pedroia because he is kind of a douche).
Hines
02-17-2009, 12:28 PM
Quick and dirty A's lineup:
1. Ryan Sweeney/Travis Buck CF
2. Jack Cust/Travis Buck RF/DH
3. Matt Holliday LF
4. Jason Giambi DH/1B
5. Eric Chavez 3B
6. Kurt Suzuki C
7. Mark Ellis 2B
8. Daric Barton 1B
9. Bobby Crosby SS
Bench: Travis Buck RF/LF (will split time with Cust and Sweeney)
Bench: Cliff Pennington INF
Bench: Rajai Davis Speed
Bench: Rob Bowen C
1: Justin Duchscherer
2: Dana Eveland
3: Sean Gallagher
4: Dallas Braden
5: Gio Gonzalez
CL Joey Devine
CL Brad Zeigler
RP Josh Outman
RP Santiago Casilla
RP Russ Springer
RP Jerry Blevins
RP Michael Wuertz
Mid-season callups: Andrew Carignan (RP), Brett Anderson, Trevor Cahill, Aaron Cunningham, Gregorio Petit
I kind've miss Rajai Davis. I would rather have him over Nyjer Morgan.
VoteLynnSwan
02-17-2009, 01:14 PM
Cubs Roster and Lineup
C: Geovany Soto
1B: Derrek Lee
2B: Mike Fontenot
3B: Aramis Ramirez
SS: Ryan Theriot
LF: Alfonso Soriano
CF: Kosuke Fukudome
RF: Milton Bradley
Bench
1. Paul Bako C
2. Micah Hoffpauir 1B/OF
3. Aaron Miles IF
4. Reed Johnson OF
5. Joey Gathright OF
Starting Pitchers
1. Carlos Zambrano
2. Ryan Dempster
3. Ted Lilly
4. Rich Harden
5. Sean Marshall
Bullpen
LRP: Chad Gaudin
MRP: Angel Guzman
MRP: Aaron Heilman
LS: Neil Cotts
SU: Jeff Samardzija
SU: Kevin Gregg
CL: Carlos Marmol
Lineup
1. Alfonso Soriano R
2. Mike Fontenot L
3. Derrek Lee R
4. Aramis Ramirez R
5. Milton Bradley S
6. Geovany Soto R
7. Kosuke Fukudome L
8. Ryan Theriot R
I think we'll see something close to that as far as the lineup goes. It's really hard to say, but i don't really buy any of the talk of moving Soriano down in the order. It's not like we have a real leadoff hitter anyway. Theriot would be ok in that spot, but personal preference would have him batting 2nd, where he's perfect. I'd like to see Lee moved down in the order but i think that's unlikely. This lineup does at least give some good balance, something we haven't had in recent years.
The bullpen is a complete crapshoot... i think it could be a big issue for this team moving forward. The starting staff is good, but not nearly as good as it could be if we could manage to swing a deal for Peavy.
iowatreat54
02-17-2009, 01:51 PM
I love Theriot batting 2nd, and would actually prefer him leadoff. However, Soriano won't be moved down, so I think 8 is the best spot for him, especially when Z is pitching. Fontenot should be a good fit 2nd, though.
Also, I really hope Guzman can stay healthy. If he does, I think he will be our best reliever not named Marmol.
ATLDirtyBirds
02-17-2009, 01:55 PM
Haha. A-Rod's press conference was comical.
nobodyinparticular
02-17-2009, 02:09 PM
Let's go Travis Buck. I hope to see another ASU player succeed in the big leagues (except Dustin Pedroia because he is kind of a douche).
Yeah, I'm really rooting for him to succeed. He put up a 130 OPS+ in his rookie year. That's pretty freaking ridiculous. By comparison, Joe Mauer was 5th in the AL last year with a 137 OPS+. Vlad was 130 last year and Evan Almighty was only at 125. That's how good Buck was in 2007. After starting out with an abysmal line, Buck came back in the last two weeks of September to put up a line of .364/.415/.673/1.089 with 4 HRs (in 2 weeks). That was able to push his numbers from the beginning of the year to a season total of a nearly league average OPS+ of 95.
And on top of that UZR rates Buck as well above average in RF.
I would not be surprised to see the A's run an outfield of Cunningham/Sweeney/Buck in 2010. He's not a star, but I think that Buck has a very good shot at being a good major leaguer.
Stash
02-17-2009, 02:21 PM
Yeah, I'm really rooting for him to succeed. He put up a 130 OPS+ in his rookie year. That's pretty freaking ridiculous. By comparison, Joe Mauer was 5th in the AL last year with a 137 OPS+. Vlad was 130 last year and Evan Almighty was only at 125. That's how good Buck was in 2007. After starting out with an abysmal line, Buck came back in the last two weeks of September to put up a line of .364/.415/.673/1.089 with 4 HRs (in 2 weeks). That was able to push his numbers from the beginning of the year to a season total of a nearly league average OPS+ of 95.
And on top of that UZR rates Buck as well above average in RF.
I would not be surprised to see the A's run an outfield of Cunningham/Sweeney/Buck in 2010. He's not a star, but I think that Buck has a very good shot at being a good major leaguer.
He'd better succeed, I bought his T-shirt jersey before the 08 season and he totally let me down!
M.O.T.H.
02-17-2009, 02:26 PM
I've actually had some problems coming up with a realistic Braves lineup, especially if we add Griffey. We have a lot of lefties.
Lineup
1. Josh Anderson CF (L)
2. Yunel Escobar SS (R)
3. Chipper Jones 3B (S)
4. Brian Mccann C (L)
5. Ken Griffey Jr. LF (L)
6. Jeff Francoeur RF (R)
7. Kelly Johnson 2B (L)
8. Casey Kotchman 1B (L)
Bench
IF Martin Prado
IF/OF Omar Infante
OF Matt Diaz
OF Gregor Blanco
C Davis Ross
Rotation
1. Derek Lowe R
2. Jair Jurrjens R
3. Tom Glavine L
4. Javier Vasquez R
5. Kenshin Kawakami R
Pen
CL Mike Gonzalez
SU Rafael Soriano
RP Boone Logan/Jeff Ridgway
RP Blaine Boyer/Manny Acosta
RP Jorge Campillo
RP Jeff Bennett
RP Buddy Carlyle
It's tough this year...the OF positions could go a couple of ways, we have multiple lead off options, the bull pen is an open competition, and if Glavine struggles, that 5th spot could be wide open as well.
This doesnt include Timmy Hudson and Peter Moylan, who are due back later in the year.
Giantsfan1080
02-17-2009, 02:36 PM
Why do you have Diaz on the bench? Don't you think he could win a batting crown one day?
fischbowl
02-17-2009, 02:39 PM
Why do you have Diaz on the bench? Don't you think he could win a batting crown one day?
Because Griffey is in the lineup
Giantsfan1080
02-17-2009, 02:41 PM
Because Griffey is in the lineup
I really don't know they signed Griffey. He doesn't help much and he puts one of the Braves better hitters on the bench.
Brodeur
02-17-2009, 02:42 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/powerRankings
Some of my favorite bits:
Like the move to replace Pat Burrell with the more steady Raul Ibanez.
More steady Raul Ibanez? Both had pretty extreme Pre/Post splits if that's what he's trying to say here.
The Red Sox were reduced to taking stabs on pitchers like John Smoltz, Takashi Saito and Brad Penny, who are all coming off major injuries. Despite a truly disappointing offseason, the returning base remains among the league's best.
How was it disappointing? Sure they didn't get Tex, but he wasn't exactly needed. Plus, they upgraded the back end of their rotation and their bullpen significantly, which is what crippled them at points last season.
Instead of being complimentary players, Danks and Floyd now have to help Mark Buerhle carry the rotation.
Complimentary players? Danks was by far the best pitcher in that rotation last year.
Somebody tell the Giants they can't win every game 2-1. The offseason seemed simple -- add a power stick. Instead they bolstered the rotation and bullpen. The offense? It got Edgar Renteria on the downside of his career.
Blah blah blah Giants need offense blah blah ignore their developing players and great rotation.
M.O.T.H.
02-17-2009, 02:51 PM
I really don't know they signed Griffey. He doesn't help much and he puts one of the Braves better hitters on the bench.
haha...Diaz was on the fast track for greatness then, he forgot how to hit, I dont know what the hell happened to him but, his balance was all out of whack last year. Too many injuries didnt help either. He should bounce back. But anyway, we didnt sign Griffey yet but, it's real close. Jr hasnt been hitting lefties well at all these days so, he would be platooning w/ Diaz and just sticking to the right handed pitching. It could actually work out very well. Put Griffey and Diaz together and you'll have one very good bat in your lineup.
fischbowl
02-17-2009, 02:56 PM
I really don't know they signed Griffey. He doesn't help much and he puts one of the Braves better hitters on the bench.
They didn't yet but in that lineup Moth provided he is there
fischbowl
02-17-2009, 02:56 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/powerRankings
Some of my favorite bits:
More steady Raul Ibanez? Both had pretty extreme Pre/Post splits if that's what he's trying to say here.
How was it disappointing? Sure they didn't get Tex, but he wasn't exactly needed. Plus, they upgraded the back end of their rotation and their bullpen significantly, which is what crippled them at points last season.
Complimentary players? Danks was by far the best pitcher in that rotation last year.
Blah blah blah Giants need offense blah blah ignore their developing players and great rotation.
**** Fox Sports......
Giantsfan1080
02-17-2009, 03:03 PM
They didn't yet but in that lineup Moth provided he is there
I meant I really don't know why they signed Griffey. The Atlanta Journal Const is reporting it's done I thought.
fischbowl
02-17-2009, 03:05 PM
I meant I really don't know why they signed Griffey. The Atlanta Journal Const is reporting it's done I thought.
He denied that he chose the Braves as per a mlb.com report today
the_legend_killer
02-17-2009, 03:55 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/39739042.html
Milwaukee Brewers resign Eric Gagne to a minor league deal. It's a heck of a lot better than the 10 million from last year...
fischbowl
02-17-2009, 04:07 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/39739042.html
Milwaukee Brewers resign Eric Gagne to a minor league deal. It's a heck of a lot better than the 10 million from last year...
Good, I can't imagine the pain of having Jorge Julio as your setup man. Not that Gagne is much better
the_legend_killer
02-17-2009, 04:09 PM
Good, I can't imagine the pain of having Jorge Julio as your setup man. Not that Gagne is much better
Yeah, although I'd rather see Carlos Villaneuva just step up and beat them both, but I don't see it happening.
Hines
02-17-2009, 04:24 PM
MOTH, no Brandon Jones?
M.O.T.H.
02-17-2009, 04:29 PM
MOTH, no Brandon Jones?
Probably not if we get Griffey. I love Brandon Jones but, he's really streaky and his power isnt what many believed it would be by now. Griffey provides more pop in left right now. There is a chance Brandon could beat out Blanco as a 5th outfielder but, it's not guaranteed given his surprising defensive struggles...he'd have to man center. Brandon could benefit from more seasoning as well so, he may have to go back down...personally, I'd rather have him up than Blanco, though. He's still one of my favorites.
tjsunstein
02-17-2009, 04:37 PM
I think Paulino could edge out Coste for the backup C role, but I would think Coste would get the nod over him. It does suck for Happ though.
I do agree with your callups, Donald is so tempting to bring up but there would be no use wasting a call-up for a still-developing player for only a few games. Harman is more likely, though I hope Donald has the arm for 3B.
We've been teasing Donald for the last year and a half with a call up but never used it on him. I think we might this year. He has some pop for an infieder and could provide rest for both Rollins and Utley if it werent for Cairo and Giles. Im still confused about those signings, I doubt both of them make it out of the spring. Should be an interesting season. Im excited for it. Myers dropped 30 pounds and Howard lost 20, maybe that will help his fielding.
Philliez01
02-17-2009, 04:45 PM
We've been teasing Donald for the last year and a half with a call up but never used it on him. I think we might this year. He has some pop for an infieder and could provide rest for both Rollins and Utley if it werent for Cairo and Giles. Im still confused about those signings, I doubt both of them make it out of the spring. Should be an interesting season. Im excited for it. Myers dropped 30 pounds and Howard lost 20, maybe that will help his fielding.
Donald was in Lakewood/Clearwater in 2007 I think, but there are ALOT of good things about him. That's what sucks about him. He's a good, maybe even very good prospect, but there's that whole Utley being the best thing in his way. It'd be nice if he could play 3B.
Cairo and Giles were only ST invites if I remember correctly, but I hear you.
I am way too excited for ST, and it's an exciting one too.
Hines
02-17-2009, 04:50 PM
I think Paulino could edge out Coste for the backup C role, but I would think Coste would get the nod over him. It does suck for Happ though.
I do agree with your callups, Donald is so tempting to bring up but there would be no use wasting a call-up for a still-developing player for only a few games. Harman is more likely, though I hope Donald has the arm for 3B.
I wish you well with Paulino. If he gets motivated and gets in good shape, you guys have a good catcher. If not, well he will be a ***** to work with.
nobodyinparticular
02-17-2009, 06:38 PM
Donald was in Lakewood/Clearwater in 2007 I think, but there are ALOT of good things about him. That's what sucks about him. He's a good, maybe even very good prospect, but there's that whole Utley being the best thing in his way. It'd be nice if he could play 3B.
Cairo and Giles were only ST invites if I remember correctly, but I hear you.
I am way too excited for ST, and it's an exciting one too.
It's generally considered that an infielder who can play SS can play 3B even better. Normally one would shift from SS then to 2B and then to 3B if there are problems on defense. The only problem would be if he has a really awful arm.
tjsunstein
02-17-2009, 06:46 PM
Donald was in Lakewood/Clearwater in 2007 I think, but there are ALOT of good things about him. That's what sucks about him. He's a good, maybe even very good prospect, but there's that whole Utley being the best thing in his way. It'd be nice if he could play 3B.
Cairo and Giles were only ST invites if I remember correctly, but I hear you.
I am way too excited for ST, and it's an exciting one too.
Nice wouldnt be the word I would use if Donald could play third. Id be more enthusiastic such as a "******* sweet!"
Philliez01
02-17-2009, 06:56 PM
It's generally considered that an infielder who can play SS can play 3B even better. Normally one would shift from SS then to 2B and then to 3B if there are problems on defense. The only problem would be if he has a really awful arm.
That is true. I've only personally seen Donald about 3-4 times so I can't make a judgement on him (once in Olympics, a few times at Reading) or his arm other than scouting reports. I do believe Donald is a 2B/SS guy but maybe Philly is more hesitant given how awful Utley was when they tried this on him.
There was speculation, fan speculation mind you, that they'd try Cardenas at 3B but he had a noodle arm and not enough "power?". Well, Oakland should like him I think. I loved Cardenas.
And also tj, haha; too true. I love Mattair but I think he's a Kiel Fisher and just will never be able to advance past High A/AA.
tjsunstein
02-17-2009, 07:05 PM
That is true. I've only personally seen Donald about 3-4 times so I can't make a judgement on him (once in Olympics, a few times at Reading) or his arm other than scouting reports. I do believe Donald is a 2B/SS guy but maybe Philly is more hesitant given how awful Utley was when they tried this on him.
There was speculation, fan speculation mind you, that they'd try Cardenas at 3B but he had a noodle arm and not enough "power?". Well, Oakland should like him I think. I loved Cardenas.
And also tj, haha; too true. I love Mattair but I think he's a Kiel Fisher and just will never be able to advance past High A/AA.
I could see that. The problem with Cardenas was our starters were all stars. I liked him alot too. I still think we should have traded Donald if it could have netted up Halladay last deadline. The other part of the rumored deal was parting with Marson as well. Whatever, we won the WS... but Halladay would have still been amazing to watch. When are we gonna hire a hit on Adam Eaton?
Philliez01
02-17-2009, 07:20 PM
I could see that. The problem with Cardenas was our starters were all stars. I liked him alot too. I still think we should have traded Donald if it could have netted up Halladay last deadline. The other part of the rumored deal was parting with Marson as well. Whatever, we won the WS... but Halladay would have still been amazing to watch. When are we gonna hire a hit on Adam Eaton?
That day is coming soon.....very soon.
VoteLynnSwan
02-17-2009, 10:14 PM
I love Theriot batting 2nd, and would actually prefer him leadoff. However, Soriano won't be moved down, so I think 8 is the best spot for him, especially when Z is pitching. Fontenot should be a good fit 2nd, though.
Also, I really hope Guzman can stay healthy. If he does, I think he will be our best reliever not named Marmol.
Theriot is the perfect national league #2 hitter. I agree with you on Guzman. The guy has terrific stuff... just another Cubs pitching prospect in terms of injuries though.
Tampa 2 4 life
02-17-2009, 10:18 PM
Rays Sign Adam kennedy:
2008 Bartlett
BA 0.286
OBP 0.329
SLG 0.361
OPS 0.690
UZR 1.90
2008 Kennedy
BA 0.280
OBP 0.321
SLG 0.372
OPS 0.693
UZR10.6
WE HAVE A NEW SS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brodeur
02-17-2009, 10:34 PM
Rays Sign Adam kennedy:
2008 Bartlett
BA 0.286
OBP 0.329
SLG 0.361
OPS 0.690
UZR 1.90
2008 Kennedy
BA 0.280
OBP 0.321
SLG 0.372
OPS 0.693
UZR10.6
WE HAVE A NEW SS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Billy Beane Version 2 continues on his path.
Stash
02-18-2009, 01:09 PM
Rays Sign Adam kennedy:
2008 Bartlett
BA 0.286
OBP 0.329
SLG 0.361
OPS 0.690
UZR 1.90
2008 Kennedy
BA 0.280
OBP 0.321
SLG 0.372
OPS 0.693
UZR10.6
WE HAVE A NEW SS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you really think he can play SS or is that just anti-Bartlett optimism? I looked up his stats and he's only played 1 game there in his career.
Nitschke-Hawk
02-18-2009, 01:12 PM
can he steal 4 bases in one game?!
M.O.T.H.
02-18-2009, 08:05 PM
Just like Furcal, looks like Griffey flip-flopped at the last second and chose the Mariners. ugh.
Braves may turn to ole Garret Anderson now.
ATLDirtyBirds
02-18-2009, 08:07 PM
Just like Furcal, looks like Griffey flip-flopped at the last second and chose the Mariners. ugh.
Haha. Where are the Braves to say they will never negotiate with Griffey's agent either?
Brodeur
02-18-2009, 08:40 PM
Just like Furcal, looks like Griffey flip-flopped at the last second and chose the Mariners. ugh.
Braves may turn to ole Garret Anderson now.
I keep saying go after Marlon Byrd but no one listens to me.
Tampa 2 4 life
02-18-2009, 08:41 PM
Do you really think he can play SS or is that just anti-Bartlett optimism? I looked up his stats and he's only played 1 game there in his career.
Anti Bartlett optimism.
M.O.T.H.
02-18-2009, 08:45 PM
I keep saying go after Marlon Byrd but no one listens to me.
We're looking for a LF with power to start or platoon with Diaz. Frenchy is def. in right and we have an open position battle at CF with a couple of our young guys. No interest in Byrd.
Brodeur
02-18-2009, 08:52 PM
We're looking for a LF with power to start or platoon with Diaz. Frenchy is def. in right and we have an open position battle at CF with a couple of our young guys. No interest in Byrd.
Well considering that Byrd is a better offensive and defensive corner OF than Griffey or Anderson that's pretty ******* stupid.
M.O.T.H.
02-18-2009, 08:55 PM
They want power because, if you take a look at the current lineup. There isnt much power at all...all of our power is coming from a fragile 3B and a C. Could be a bit of problem.
Giantsfan1080
02-18-2009, 09:31 PM
They want power because, if you take a look at the current lineup. There isnt much power at all...all of our power is coming from a fragile 3B and a C. Could be a bit of problem.
Marlins>Braves
Brodeur
02-18-2009, 09:33 PM
They want power because, if you take a look at the current lineup. There isnt much power at all...all of our power is coming from a fragile 3B and a C. Could be a bit of problem.
The Rays made the WS last year and had three guys with more than twenty homers (and Hinske barely counts).
M.O.T.H.
02-18-2009, 09:40 PM
Braves are probably looking at two guys with twenty homers...and again one is the oft-injured Chipper and the other is Mccann who's always playing with some type of injury and only plays 130-140 games. And no one is mistaking the Braves for the Rays on the base paths. Obviously, home runs arent every thing but, one of Frank Wren's primary goals was to add some power to Left and to the middle of the order because, we are greatly lacking in that depratment.
Brodeur
02-18-2009, 09:53 PM
Braves are probably looking at two guys with twenty homers...and again one is the oft-injured Chipper and the other is Mccann who's always playing with some type of injury and only plays 130-140 games. And no one is mistaking the Braves for the Rays on the base paths. Obviously, home runs arent every thing but, one of Frank Wren's primary goals was to add some power to Left and to the middle of the order because, we are greatly lacking in that depratment.
They have 4 solid on base threats, and Byrd would give them 5 of 8. With a full season in the NL, I think Kotchman will give them one more so just CF and the other corner outfield spot would hinder them on base percentage wise.
Tampa 2 4 life
02-18-2009, 10:00 PM
Braves are probably looking at two guys with twenty homers...and again one is the oft-injured Chipper and the other is Mccann who's always playing with some type of injury and only plays 130-140 games. And no one is mistaking the Braves for the Rays on the base paths. Obviously, home runs arent every thing but, one of Frank Wren's primary goals was to add some power to Left and to the middle of the order because, we are greatly lacking in that depratment.
If you aren't counting steals, Rays were 5th to last in baserunning.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/2/18/762747/the-best-baserunners-of-20
D-Unit
02-18-2009, 10:00 PM
I keep saying go after Marlon Byrd but no one listens to me.
He's not even on the block is he???
I haven't heard of the Rangers shopping him.
M.O.T.H.
02-18-2009, 10:01 PM
lol...they have no interest in Byrd. Isnt he also coming off of microfracture surgery, anyway? Schafer has a legitimate shot to win the CF job this year. They're going to start rebuilding that outfield, through our system. It's time to see what Schafer, Jones, Anderson, and hell even Blanco can do. Heyward has the potential to be up as early as next year as well to possibly handle one of the corner outfield positions.
Tampa 2 4 life
02-18-2009, 10:02 PM
lol...they have no interest in Byrd. Isnt he also coming off of microfracture surgery, anyway? Schafer has a legitimate shot to win the CF job this year. They're going to start rebuilding that outfield, through our system. It's time to see what Schafer, Jones, Anderson, and hell even Blanco can do. Heyward has the potential to be up as early as next year as well to possibly handle one of the corner outfield positions.
Gabe Gross would make more sense for a trade than Byrd.
M.O.T.H.
02-18-2009, 10:02 PM
If you aren't counting steals, Rays were 5th to last in baserunning.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/2/18/762747/the-best-baserunners-of-20
I was counting steals more so than anything. The Braves dont run well at all. We have one projected starter that can even amass 20 steals and that is Anderson.
Giantsfan1080
02-18-2009, 10:03 PM
Any chance we see Heyward this year?
Brodeur
02-18-2009, 10:03 PM
He's not even on the block is he???
I haven't heard of the Rangers shopping him.
I'm just factoring in the Rangers surplus if Jones makes the team. They already have Cruz, Hamilton, and Murphy with Cats lousy contract making him stuck with the team as well as maybe Jones making the team, Boggs good enough to be a backup outfielder, and Borbo possibly ready this year. Plus maybe Golson.
Pretty sure that about covers it.
holt_bruce81
02-18-2009, 10:05 PM
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/commishs-hot-stove/commishs-hot-stove/cardinal-beat-updates/2009/02/heartbroken-pineiro-pulls-out-of-wbc-slams-oquendo/
JUPITER, FLA — Cardinals fifth starter Joel Pineiro this morning announced he will not play for Team Puerto Rico after its manager, Cardinals third-base coach Jose Oquendo, informed him he would not be part of his three-man rotation for next month’s World Baseball Classic.
Pineiro, who started for Oquendo’s overachieving national team during the inaugural ‘06 event, described himself as “heartbroken” over Oquendo’s decision, adding that pitching out of the bullpen would not make sense because it would disrupt his conditioning for the upcoming regular season.
“I was very disappointed, very heartbroken. I felt disrespected,”
Joel, get over it. Your not even that good!
M.O.T.H.
02-18-2009, 10:06 PM
Any chance we see Heyward this year?
I seriously doubt it...he is only 19 after all. Perhaps a late season call up but, I dont think they'll rush him, regardless of how well he does.
Brodeur
02-18-2009, 10:09 PM
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/commishs-hot-stove/commishs-hot-stove/cardinal-beat-updates/2009/02/heartbroken-pineiro-pulls-out-of-wbc-slams-oquendo/
Joel, get over it. Your not even that good!
I wasn't even aware he was Puerto Rican.
D-Unit
02-18-2009, 10:09 PM
I'm just factoring in the Rangers surplus if Jones makes the team. They already have Cruz, Hamilton, and Murphy with Cats lousy contract making him stuck with the team as well as maybe Jones making the team, Boggs good enough to be a backup outfielder, and Borbo possibly ready this year. Plus maybe Golson.
Pretty sure that about covers it.
You're pretty on it about the Rangers, eh?
fischbowl
02-18-2009, 10:10 PM
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/commishs-hot-stove/commishs-hot-stove/cardinal-beat-updates/2009/02/heartbroken-pineiro-pulls-out-of-wbc-slams-oquendo/
Joel, get over it. Your not even that good!
Yeah but to be literally cut by your own coach on your MLB squad.
Borat
02-18-2009, 10:12 PM
I'd be shocked if Heyward made an MLB debut this year. I mean, seriously, he's good but he's no Pablo Sandoval.
Brodeur
02-18-2009, 10:17 PM
You're pretty on it about the Rangers, eh?
I read an assload of baseball articles and a lot of them have focused on the Rangers this season because of their farm system.
As for Heyward, he could have a similar path to Maybin where he sits in high A for most of his second professional season and gets a random call-up later on in the season. And Borat, Pablo really needs to develop this thing called patience. It'll be a wonder if he does.
fischbowl
02-18-2009, 10:42 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090218&content_id=3846072&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
As if it wasnt expected
Borat
02-18-2009, 11:16 PM
As for Heyward, he could have a similar path to Maybin where he sits in high A for most of his second professional season and gets a random call-up later on in the season. And Borat, Pablo really needs to develop this thing called patience. It'll be a wonder if he does.
Bah. Who needs patience when you square-up every freakin pitch.
Giantsfan1080
02-18-2009, 11:31 PM
We'll finally see Fernando this year. Watch Out!!!
cdub11
02-19-2009, 12:17 AM
glad to see Griffey Jr. back with Mariners
GET LOOSE
02-19-2009, 12:26 AM
We'll finally see Fernando this year. Watch Out!!!
Frenando Martinez is the man. He should get a chance to play if he shows hes ready.
Todd Bertuzzi
02-19-2009, 04:07 PM
Not sure is this has been posted yet, but the new Yankees clubhouse is going to be 30 000 square feet. To put that into perspective, the average house is only 2200 square feet.
http://m.nypost.com/ms/p/nyp/nyp/view.m?id=23203&storyid=155515
Tha Wootster
02-19-2009, 04:31 PM
no more andy marte! yay!
bored of education
02-19-2009, 04:32 PM
no more andy marte! yay!
/me mounts wo_ot88
bored of education
02-19-2009, 05:44 PM
After three years in the outfield, Alfonso Soriano says that he'd move back to second base if the Cubs were able to sign free agent Manny Ramirez.
dabears10
02-19-2009, 05:48 PM
After three years in the outfield, Alfonso Soriano says that he'd move back to second base if the Cubs were able to sign free agent Manny Ramirez.
Awesome double the horrible defending!
ATLDirtyBirds
02-19-2009, 05:48 PM
Frenando Martinez is the man. He should get a chance to play if he shows hes ready.
FERNANDO!
http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/images/2008/02/19/KGuGiyM8.jpg
http://www.flushinguniversity.com/moxie/moxiepix/a452.jpg
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03202007/photos/mets076a.jpg
http://www.nysun.com/pics/5754.jpg
Beast. I just need the man to stay healthy.
Brodeur
02-19-2009, 05:54 PM
Christ Fernando Martinez is overrated by the Mets.
Tampa 2 4 life
02-19-2009, 06:09 PM
Christ Fernando Martinez is overrated by the Mets.
If he's actually 20 putting up a .346 wOBA in AA is impressive, unfortunately, he's probably not 20...
Christ Fernando Martinez is overrated by the Mets.
That's probably true. I think he's lost much of his lustre from a few years back.
Brodeur
02-19-2009, 06:29 PM
If he's actually 20 putting up a .346 wOBA in AA is impressive, unfortunately, he's probably not 20...
You think he Smiley Gonzalez'd the Mets?
Tampa 2 4 life
02-19-2009, 06:39 PM
You think he Smiley Gonzalez'd the Mets?
Not accusing him, just saying he's awfully productive/big for a 20 year old.
GET LOOSE
02-19-2009, 06:48 PM
In DR most are alot bigger then Americans. But he even looks young the man is 20 and hes going to be a monster!!
Brodeur
02-19-2009, 06:52 PM
Not accusing him, just saying he's awfully productive/big for a 20 year old.
His stats weren't that good last year.
Not accusing him, just saying he's awfully productive/big for a 20 year old.
I think we're starting to see players move through the system quicker than in the past imo. It's certainly possible. I just saw that the White Sox have a 19-year-old Cuban, Dayan Viciedo, in camp with a legitimate shot to make the team as well. I don't know what it is, but it's becoming much more common for sure, especially among Hispanic-born players. Unless you believe all the age conspiracies, lol.
Jughead10
02-19-2009, 07:06 PM
In DR most are alot bigger then Americans. But he even looks young the man is 20 and hes going to be a monster!!
In the DR most are a lot bigger than Americans? Is this some sort of fact? Haha.
He better be 20. Or he should have developed a bit more power by now.
Borat
02-19-2009, 07:08 PM
Martinez needs a real nickname. F-Mart is lame.
fenikz
02-19-2009, 07:09 PM
Not accusing him, just saying he's awfully productive/big for a 20 year old.
he looks puny compared to this one
http://i.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0803/mlb.draft.class.2005/images/justin-upton.jpg
GET LOOSE
02-19-2009, 07:11 PM
In the DR most are a lot bigger than Americans? Is this some sort of fact? Haha.
He better be 20. Or he should have developed a bit more power by now.
I meant height wise not weight wise. If you go there and see there players they are pretty tall.
Jughead10
02-19-2009, 07:12 PM
I meant height wise not weight wise. If you go there and see there players they are pretty tall.
Well that's really hard to prove one way or the other, but if I had to guess, I'd say it is actually the other way around.
GET LOOSE
02-19-2009, 07:15 PM
Well that's really hard to prove one way or the other, but if I had to guess, I'd say it is actually the other way around.
Well if you ever go you would probally change your mind. But anyway he doesnt look all that big to begin with. Hes going to be a very good player
Philliez01
02-19-2009, 07:15 PM
Random Musings:
As of right now, nothing substantial has happened. But just looking at how teams look right now, you can attempt to draw conclusions of some sort.
NL East:
I've talked about the Phillies numerous times so I'll just stop there. One thing I will mention about them though is their Rule 5 pick Robert Mosebach. I don't think he'll amount to anything, as his peripherals look like Eaton, but he does serve some decent ground balls. I really wished they could've kept Brett Harker though.
Oh, those NY Mets. One of their weaknesses was the backend of the bullpen with Wagner on the mend, and I think it's quite obvious they've bolstered that. If Oliver Perez can find some consistency, their rotation is pretty sound. Delgado's 2nd half was monstrous and if he can also keep that up, I like their infield. Reyes has his moments of head-scratching, that's for sure. Can Church stay healthy? Can Delgado keep his stroke?
The Braves may have met the end of their NL East dominance but they are still a team to be reckoned with. Derek Lowe was a very good signing and I do love Jair Jurrjens in his second full season. I'm very curious how their CF search will come along. Now their main issue may be health and consistency. McCann is a very good catcher to have behind the plate but Mike Gonzalez must stay healthy.
Florida Marlins have, like most of the East, a very nice IF. Cantu, Uggla and Hanley provide a very nice trio at the plate. Replacing Mike Jacobs though should be interesting. Hermida, Maybin, Andrew Miller, etc. are still developing which is the lone consistent piece to the Florida Marlins. Always getting younger and waiting for them to develop. They will have their noses in there.
....and those Washington Nationals...where to begin? Signing Adam Dunn is a very nice addition with his bat alone and him and Zimmerman will provide a nice 3-4 for most of the season. I'm really curious how Lastings Milledge does this year. I actually have some faith in him to have a good season with Dunn in there.
Overall, of the MLB in general, who's going to emerge? Who's going to have a Todd Hundley/Brady Anderson "holy ****!" year without the roids? Someone will.
ATLDirtyBirds
02-19-2009, 07:18 PM
Christ Fernando Martinez is overrated by the Mets.
Fernando is a machine. Just you watch. His stock has dropped because we've moved him quickly, and he doesn't have OMGZ stats due to it. I don't think he's adding much to the big club this year, but he's going to next season.
And suck on the wOBA Tampa posted, you douchebag.
GET LOOSE
02-19-2009, 07:19 PM
My Mets got the divison this year I can smell it. Nats will be in last but I do think they will show signs of life this year.
Brodeur
02-19-2009, 07:23 PM
I could go find a monkey and he'd be an adequate replacement for Mike Jacobs.
Philliez01
02-19-2009, 07:28 PM
I could go find a monkey and he'd be an adequate replacement for Mike Jacobs.
Just ask the NY Post.
That felt wrong.
Tampa 2 4 life
02-19-2009, 07:29 PM
In DR most are alot bigger then Americans. But he even looks young the man is 20 and hes going to be a monster!!
Dominicans are bigger than Americans? Well, this seems like a concrete fact.
Borat
02-19-2009, 07:30 PM
I could go find a monkey and he'd be an adequate replacement for Mike Jacobs.
If I see a picture of the "Rally Monkey", I'm going to drive to Los Angeles of Anaheim and stab that ***** with the sharp end of Sammy Sosa's corked bat.
M.O.T.H.
02-19-2009, 07:32 PM
It's difficult to predict the winner of the East...Other than the Nats, I wouldn't write any of them off. I'm not as high on the Braves as a lot of the media seems to be but, we'll see.
As for something else...I hope Bobby Cox will name Terry Pendleton his succesor sometime during the season.
Tampa 2 4 life
02-19-2009, 07:32 PM
I could go find a monkey and he'd be an adequate replacement for Mike Jacobs.
He's the very definition of "replaceable".
Well that's really hard to prove one way or the other, but if I had to guess, I'd say it is actually the other way around.
I'd tend to agree with you here. Either way there's no factual evidence to support any of this.
M.O.T.H.
02-19-2009, 07:33 PM
I could go find a monkey and he'd be an adequate replacement for Mike Jacobs.
Just imagine the Royals lineup if they pulled off one of those rumored deal for Frenchy. mmmmmm.
Brodeur
02-19-2009, 07:33 PM
Just ask the NY Post.
That felt wrong.
"I don’t walk a lot,” Jacobs said. “I believe that when you’re in the middle of the lineup, you’re in the middle of the lineup for a reason — to drive in runs and put the ball in play and try to do damage. I think I can truly be a .275, .280 hitter in the big leagues. And if I’m hitting .280 or .270 in the big leagues, my on-base percentage is going to be around .320.”
Jacobs is also about as smart as the average NY Post writer.
Tampa 2 4 life
02-19-2009, 07:34 PM
It's difficult to predict the winner of the East...Other than the Nats, I wouldn't write any of them off. I'm not as high on the Braves as a lot of the media seems to be but, we'll see.
As for something else...I hope Bobby Cox will name Terry Pendleton his succesor sometime during the season.
Just keep French off the field and the Braves are my dark horse.
Philliez01
02-19-2009, 07:34 PM
I wasn't talking exactly about Jacobs sterling .240 average as much as his HR total. Then again, that seems to be the only positive stat.
On a related note, who is going to be there 1B?
Tampa 2 4 life
02-19-2009, 07:34 PM
Just imagine the Royals lineup if they pulled off one of those rumored deal for Frenchy. mmmmmm.
Biggest Hitter on the team? Kyle Farnsworth.
Philliez01
02-19-2009, 07:36 PM
"I don’t walk a lot,” Jacobs said. “I believe that when you’re in the middle of the lineup, you’re in the middle of the lineup for a reason — to drive in runs and put the ball in play and try to do damage. I think I can truly be a .275, .280 hitter in the big leagues. And if I’m hitting .280 or .270 in the big leagues, my on-base percentage is going to be around .320.”
Jacobs is also about as smart as the average NY Post writer.
Somewhere out there, Russell Branyan nods furiously.
Brodeur
02-19-2009, 07:36 PM
I wasn't talking exactly about Jacobs sterling .240 average as much as his HR total. Then again, that seems to be the only positive stat.
On a related note, who is going to be there 1B?
Probably Cantu (another stupid movie) when they give the full time 3rd base job to McPherson, who will breakout this year.
GET LOOSE
02-19-2009, 07:40 PM
Somewhere out there, Russell Branyan nods furiously.
Haha its a shame to the MLB that his name appeared in an MLB forum
Brodeur
02-19-2009, 07:42 PM
Haha its a shame to the MLB that his name appeared in an MLB forum
He's a lot better player than Jacobs is. A guy with a sub .310 OBP who plays first with absolutely awful defense come in rare breeds.
ATLDirtyBirds
02-19-2009, 08:31 PM
Royals outfielder José Guillen expects to return to full-time drills, perhaps by this weekend, after easing the pain in his right big toe by yanking out a severely ingrown nail.
The nail was only a slight irritant Monday when Guillen reported to camp but soon worsened from the pounding caused by various workouts.
"The doctor saw me (Wednesday)," Guillen said, "and he said we’ll see how it feels in the morning. If it wasn't any better, he wanted me to have surgery. I thought, 'Whoaaa.'
"So I went on my own (Wednesday) to the pharmacy, got some tweezers, came home and pulled it out myself. Let me tell you, I cried. I had one tough hour. But I got it out."
Guillen said the nail had hooked and twisted deep into the skin.
"I reached in there (with the tweezers)," he said, "and poked around until I got the end of it. Then I counted one, two, three and just pulled …. Oh, my God. It came out, but tears were running down my cheeks."
Club officials weren't particularly pleased by the self-surgery but indicated the biggest concern now is avoiding an infection. Guillen is being treated with antibiotics but said his toe is already much better.
GET LOOSE
02-19-2009, 08:34 PM
Royals outfielder José Guillen expects to return to full-time drills, perhaps by this weekend, after easing the pain in his right big toe by yanking out a severely ingrown nail.
The nail was only a slight irritant Monday when Guillen reported to camp but soon worsened from the pounding caused by various workouts.
"The doctor saw me (Wednesday)," Guillen said, "and he said we’ll see how it feels in the morning. If it wasn't any better, he wanted me to have surgery. I thought, 'Whoaaa.'
"So I went on my own (Wednesday) to the pharmacy, got some tweezers, came home and pulled it out myself. Let me tell you, I cried. I had one tough hour. But I got it out."
Guillen said the nail had hooked and twisted deep into the skin.
"I reached in there (with the tweezers)," he said, "and poked around until I got the end of it. Then I counted one, two, three and just pulled …. Oh, my God. It came out, but tears were running down my cheeks."
Club officials weren't particularly pleased by the self-surgery but indicated the biggest concern now is avoiding an infection. Guillen is being treated with antibiotics but said his toe is already much better.
Lol now thats what im talking about. Be a man
M.O.T.H.
02-19-2009, 09:11 PM
Glavine and the Braves agreed to one year deal. He could make up to $4.5 million if he reaches all his incentives.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3920126
"Glavine will make a guaranteed $1 million, and an additional $1 million in his first day on the major league roster during the regular season. He'll be owed $1.25 million after 30 days, and an additional $1.25 million after 90 days, a source said."
Forenci
02-19-2009, 09:44 PM
Heh, anyone who thinks Jacobs will be anything more than an above average power hitter is just fooling themselves. He is like Adam Dunn without as much power or the ability to get on base.
mqtirishfan
02-20-2009, 12:51 AM
Just keep French off the field and the Braves are my dark horse.
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/baseball/mlb/06/11/draft.follow/t1_hayward.jpg
One more year, and Frenchy is no longer a problem.
M.O.T.H.
02-20-2009, 01:21 AM
Hopefully, Gorkys Hernandez has a quick rise as well. Sure would solve a lot of problems in that outfield...or maybe the light will turn on for Brandon Jones this year. It's nice to have a lot of talented young OFs, it just sucks that they're all a few years away...potentially even Heyward. Hopefully, he'll be ready to go by next year, though.
holt_bruce81
02-20-2009, 03:02 AM
Yeah but to be literally cut by your own coach on your MLB squad.
Joel wasn't cut, he was just told he'd be a reliever for the Puerto Rico team.
BigDawg819
02-20-2009, 11:42 AM
AFraud linked to Juan Gone's bag man. Why isn't he suspended yet?
bored of education
02-20-2009, 11:45 AM
AFraud linked to Juan Gone's bag man. Why isn't he suspended yet?
So is Ortiz and Pedro
Brodeur
02-20-2009, 11:58 AM
AFraud linked to Juan Gone's bag man. Why isn't he suspended yet?
Because suspending him would be ******* stupid and un-called for? And A-Fraud is really lame.
BigDawg819
02-20-2009, 12:02 PM
Because suspending him would be ******* stupid and un-called for? And A-Fraud is really lame.
The name fits because of his constant hypocrisy. And if further investigations prove continued PE use, then they better suspend him. Remember STEROIDS ARE ILLEGAL IN THE US, screw the suspension ARREST HIM!
Brodeur
02-20-2009, 12:06 PM
The name fits because of his constant hypocrisy. And if further investigations prove continued PE use, then they better suspend him. Remember STEROIDS ARE ILLEGAL IN THE US, screw the suspension ARREST HIM!
You do realize that he has only tested positive during a private test that was never supposed to get out in the first place, and is something he can absolutely not be suspended for? So what if he takes some random crap from a trainer in the world's most useless report? Half the people in the NBA, MLB, NFL, etc. all take something of some kind.
iowatreat54
02-20-2009, 12:30 PM
Yes, but the thing is he admitted to it. Admission of guilt > any stupid report. So it doesn't really matter what report says it, if Arod says that he took steroids, that is all the proof that is needed.
ATLDirtyBirds
02-20-2009, 03:16 PM
Dodgers steal Orlando Hudson.
fenikz
02-20-2009, 03:16 PM
Dodgers sign Orlando Hudson and send the #16/17 pick to the Diamondbacks
not a smart move on there part imo, Hudson is quickly declining and never healthy, and will only continue the Dodgers tradition of crippling their talented youth
1 year $3.4 Mil with $4.6 Mil in incentives
Brodeur
02-20-2009, 04:08 PM
Dodgers don't care about their non-pitching prospects anyway, so the first round pick is useless.
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