Relationship Advice Thread

[BigDawg819]

Besides "girls like guys with money" could you make a statement that applies to more than 60% of girls? (or besides obvious things like "girls have vjays")

If you can make a girl laugh you have the key "in" to her heart.

[thefalconer]

no matter what a girl says, guys with a bad streak/demeanor has an advantage over a genuine sweetheart kind of a guy.

[Brent]

no matter what a girl says, guys with a bad streak/demeanor has an advantage over a genuine sweetheart kind of a guy.
be the alpha male.

best advice right there.

['cuse-213]

If you can make a girl laugh you have the key "in" to her heart.

Definitely agree with this.


A while back I was asking how I should go about rejecting a senior ball invite from a girl. Well it was last night and I ended up having a great time. And me and the girl are really close. So I guess some advice would be to take risks, get out of your comfort zone. Girls will notice the confidence and be drawn to it.

[JF4]

no matter what a girl says, guys with a bad streak/demeanor has an advantage over a genuine sweetheart kind of a guy.

All depends how you play it my friend. Both have their advantages and disadvantages.

[SwagU]

If you can make a girl laugh you have the key "in" to her heart.

Definitely agree with this. Every girl that has ever liked me or gone for me always says I like you because you make me laugh. Girls won't care about it when they just wan't took hook up, but for a girl looking for more then a one day thing it is gold.

[Vikes99ej]

Going to a bar with someone who is just as scared of women as you are is a recipe for disaster.

[StickSkills]

http://www.laddertheory.com/

I find this read to be very insightful.

[Ness]

no matter what a girl says, guys with a bad streak/demeanor has an advantage over a genuine sweetheart kind of a guy.

Perhaps. Just because it gives off the vibe of being confident.

I've flat out gone "all in" with a girl twice. Big fat 0 for 2. It makes them uncomfortable bc you're being too direct and are putting them on the spot. It's easier to succeed when you essentially convince them that it's their idea to hook up. I'm usually much more direct and honest, and I've had problems getting and keeping girls bc of that. Once I toned it down, it worked out much better for me.

Well if you hang out with a girl a few times, it's a lot easier to ask them out. If you don't know the girl very well, then it's going to be awkward.

[Brent]

Well if you hang out with a girl a few times, it's a lot easier to ask them out. If you don't know the girl very well, then it's going to be awkward.
when I refer to "going all in" with a girl, I mean basically asking her if you want to go fool around or whatever. not asking her out.

[bsaza2358]

When I refer to "going all in", I mean being direct and telling the girl that you're interested and want to move the friendship into a relationship. Making a move to ask a girl out or asking her back to your place doesn't count in that context.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

I don't know, maybe I should try the all in method out this weekend. The one thing that I seem to struggle with is escalating to the point where I want to have some sort of sexual contact. I have no problem approaching, talking, etc. but I feel as if I could be stronger in the escalation process. Any tips?

[JF4]

When I refer to "going all in", I mean being direct and telling the girl that you're interested and want to move the friendship into a relationship. Making a move to ask a girl out or asking her back to your place doesn't count in that context.

Well then. Retract what I said earlier about going all in.

I thought the same thing as Brent.

[Ness]

when I refer to "going all in" with a girl, I mean basically asking her if you want to go fool around or whatever. not asking her out.

Seems very anti-romantic. You should never have to ask.

When I refer to "going all in", I mean being direct and telling the girl that you're interested and want to move the friendship into a relationship. Making a move to ask a girl out or asking her back to your place doesn't count in that context.

These things usually fall into place on their own. If the girl is genuinely interested in you, you probably shouldn't have to ask if you want to move on to the next step. There are signs that you're "getting close" with a girl. Hugging, cuddling, etc. Depends on how well you know the person and if they've comfortable in their position....and of course if they like you enough...which you can usually tell by the signs.

[Brent]

Seems very anti-romantic. You should never have to ask
well, that isnt something you pull with a stranger. and, often, large quantities of alcohol are part of the equation.

[bsaza2358]

I don't know, maybe I should try the all in method out this weekend. The one thing that I seem to struggle with is escalating to the point where I want to have some sort of sexual contact. I have no problem approaching, talking, etc. but I feel as if I could be stronger in the escalation process. Any tips?

Are you saying you have trouble communicating to the girls that you want to bang? You're not over there talking to them in order to get to know them. You're looking for something, just like they are.

Easiest way to handle this situation is to pick your spot and just go for it. If you're talking to a girl for about 15 or so mins, and it's going well, ask what she and her friends are up to later, then have some sort of other plans to pry her away. Also, have a reason to go back to your place. If she mentions a movie, say you have a DVD by the same director at your place. If she hasn't heard this band you mention, you have the CD. If she loves red wine, you have a Malbec at your place. (Side note: Malbec is money wine with the ladies. Good investment.)

You just need to steer the convo in such a way that you have a way to get her away from her c blocking friends and into your place. If you don't think she's going to go home with you tonight, just pull the # and meet up with her for a drink a few days later.

[Brent]

If you don't think she's going to go home with you tonight, just pull the # and meet up with her for a drink a few days later.
Also, don't act like it's a big deal if she doesn't want to go with you.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Getting the number or something like that isn't a problem. I'm more less talking about in a party type of setting where I'm looking to do **** right there at the moment. Whether it be anywhere from making out to flat out ******* in the nearest open bedroom.

I'm thinking I should perhaps be more direct with touching and stuff like that to get a feel instead of trying to talk my way in.

[OSUGiants17]

Ok, I have moved on bsaza, and now I need help with another girl. There is a girl I like and we have 2 classes together and both run track. We talk in classes and at track only. We kinda flirt with eachother. But, there are 3 problems:
1. She is going to senior prom with another guy. They aren't going out, just going to prom together. She is in my grade(sophmore) btw.
2. If we went out, it would be one of the most awkward couples in the school cause she is so much more popular than me.
3. I don't really have much confidence or game(as a result of problem 2)

Help me please.

[molenguinurtle]

Ok, I have moved on bsaza, and now I need help with another girl. There is a girl I like and we have 2 classes together and both run track. We talk in classes and at track only. We kinda flirt with eachother. But, there are 3 problems:
1. She is going to senior prom with another guy. They aren't going out, just going to prom together. She is in my grade(sophmore) btw.
2. If we went out, it would be one of the most awkward couples in the school cause she is so much more popular than me.
3. I don't really have much confidence or game(as a result of problem 2)

Help me please.

Work on #3 and everything else will take care of itself.

[OSUGiants17]

I have been trying to work on it for years and I'm just way to nervous around girls

[yourfavestoner]

Ok, I have moved on bsaza, and now I need help with another girl. There is a girl I like and we have 2 classes together and both run track. We talk in classes and at track only. We kinda flirt with eachother. But, there are 3 problems:
1. She is going to senior prom with another guy. They aren't going out, just going to prom together. She is in my grade(sophmore) btw.
2. If we went out, it would be one of the most awkward couples in the school cause she is so much more popular than me.
3. I don't really have much confidence or game(as a result of problem 2)

Help me please.

http://www.laddertheory.com/

Read it. Know it. Live by it.

[molenguinurtle]

^^^ That is quality stuff btw. Read it last night. Pretty much agree with everything the man said.

[TitanHope]

OSUGiants, you need to smash da homies.

[OSUGiants17]

that laddertheory didn't help me much.

care to explain TH? I don't get it, lol

[OSUGiants17]

nvm, I read figured it out TH, and no I will not have sex with her friends if that's what you're getting at

[TitanHope]

Naw, I was gonna say beat up her boyfriend or your other male competition.

But getting with her friend sounds like a better idea! :cool:


Seriously though, the friend zone is like an alternate dimension. To get out of it, you have to do something drastic to create a worm hole to get your ass out. Getting with her friend is a little drastic, but has the chick ever seen you with another girl who you weren't friends with? There's a reason why it's odd that opportunities present themselves more often to guys who are already with girls as opposed to single guys.

I got with a girl who was out of my league this way. I had a fling with one of her friends who was in my league (didn't have sex, but went on a few dates/makeout sessions). She kind've thought I was cute, but it wasn't until she saw me with another girl that she got jealous. After her friend and I ended our thing, she texted me out of the blue and we started talking. After a week or so of texting and hanging out in group settings, I asked her out. While we were dating, she told me that seeing me with another girl kind've lit a fire under her and she wanted me more.

So I'm not saying you should sleep with her friend, cause you don't seem like an insensitive type of guy. But for me, the best way to get out of the friend zone is to have her see you with another girl. You don't have to completely cut off communication either, since in some cases still being her friend and talking with her is just fine since she knows you're possible b/f material since you have a g/f (and in one case I've had, she builds feelings for you and gets the "I'm better for him than she is..." attitude, which can and will explode gloriously in your face). If she gets aggressive and pursues you, then congrats. If it doesn't affect her, then she probably doesn't have interest in ya. That's harsh, but everyone strikes out.

Anyway, not meaning to give you false hope. Just saying focusing on other girls is best for you no matter what, and if you still want to be more with this girl, it could indirectly lead to something down the line. Plus, getting experience with another girl and building confidence will help you a lot with the next girl, whether it's your crush or not.

[OSUGiants17]

ugh, but this girl is a girl that I am using to get another girl's attention or to move on from another girl who's already in a relationship. I don't wanna juggle 3 girls, lol. Any other advice TH?

[yourfavestoner]

ugh, but this girl is a girl that I am using to get another girl's attention or to move on from another girl who's already in a relationship. I don't wanna juggle 3 girls, lol. Any other advice TH?

Well, you haven't hooked up with any of them yet, so how about you try it our way instead of your way? Trust me, we've all been there before. Your way will not work. I know every high school thinks that they are different and their friends are different and the girls are different. The only difference is that you've got it even easier than any of us, because girls are putting out more often and more casually at a much younger age. I thought girls were ***** when I was in school, I couldn't believe some of the **** I'd hear from the high school kids I was coaching last year.

[OSUGiants17]

Ok, but there is still one problem, all of her friends are in relationships, she's the only single one in her group of friends. FML

[yourfavestoner]

Ok, but there is still one problem, all of her friends are in relationships, she's the only single one in her group of friends. FML

That should make it even easier, since she likely yearns to be in a relationship because all of her friends are doing it.

I mean, it's like you're asking us "tell me how to get her to like me." That's impossible. We don't know anything about you, your personality, nothing. You know you. So be confident being yourself, don't make yourself TOO available/desperate, and make it known that you aren't interested in being just friends. Everything else will fall into place.

[OSUGiants17]

ok, tomorow I begin my journey, lol. wish me luck boys

[TitanHope]

Ok, I have moved on bsaza, and now I need help with another girl. There is a girl I like and we have 2 classes together and both run track. We talk in classes and at track only. We kinda flirt with eachother. But, there are 3 problems:
1. She is going to senior prom with another guy. They aren't going out, just going to prom together. She is in my grade(sophmore) btw.
2. If we went out, it would be one of the most awkward couples in the school cause she is so much more popular than me.
3. I don't really have much confidence or game(as a result of problem 2)

Help me please.

Ok, this is your most recent post on your situation. I agree that juggling 3 girls is a hassle, but the goal is to just focus on one. If you've got your heart, emotions, and focus on multiple girls, you'll get stressed out and, I promise you, will not be successful. The goal is to be laid back, confident, and just rolling with the punches. Completely move on from the first girl, and if she tries to initiate something on her own, then cool. If not, let her be and focus on this girl.

So 1st girl = out of the picture.

Now, you're down to the track girl. The first thing isn't much of a problem. Prom sounds glamorous, but if a guy who's wanting to be romantic doesn't manage it perfectly for the girl, then it can backfire on an unsuspecting guy. Going in groups is easier, but takes the romance out of it for a guy trying to woo a girl. So don't worry about that.

#2 shouldn't a problem as long as you don't carry yourself as a dork or a jerk. If you're easy to talk, confident, and just a cool, chill guy, then social stature shouldn't be a big deterrant for her. If it is, then she's an immature girl and you're better off without the materialistic chick.

#3 is EASY! Just be approachable. Don't walk around with a blank or unhappy look, so smile a good bit and look straight ahead as you walk (ie. not down at your feet). Crack jokes to her and try to make her laugh, even if it gets you in trouble for talking in class or something. If ya'll make eye contact, smile or make her laugh by crossing your eyes, but whatever you do, do not look away quickly or try to pretend you weren't looking at her. Don't try to be the "mysterious" guy, cause you'll just look creepy, unapproachable, and awkward in the process. "Just be yourself" is cliche and isn't the right way to do things, cause it's hard to act natural in front of someone you want to impress. What I try to advise is to convince yourself that you don't have to impress this girl. That leads to you being more relaxed and less awkward, allowing you to then be your natural self. You have to make it so it's enjoyable to be around you, which will make her open to hanging out with you.

You also have an "in" since ya'll run track. Just get a group of your friends, who you're comfortable around so you'll cut up and be yourself with, and ask her if she wants to come with ya'll after a track meet to grab a bite to eat or something like that.

You have to work fairly quickly to avoid the friend zone in this case too. If you don't, you're screwed again. Listen to YFS and Bsaza's advice too, cause I agree with everything they've said.

[OSUGiants17]

Ok, thanks for the help TH.

Also, I know this is gonna sound wierd, but I had a dream last night that me and her where talking in history class(one of the two classes we have together) and it looked just like our normal discussions in class. The only part of the dream I remember is her saying something along the lines of "I don't care what other will people will think, I wanna go out with you." then we kissed and the dream ended.

[TitanHope]

It depends on how you interpret dreams.

I think most everyone would see that as a good omen, in one way or another depending on your religious/spiritual beliefs, but it's probably your subconscious acting out your inner most desire.

Either way, use that to your advantage. You've seen it happen in your mind, so use that to visualize obtaining what you want and take confidence from that. Who knows? Maybe you just had a vision of the future. I've heard a lot of people say that they believe (though their religious/spiritual beliefs) that deja vu is what happens when people are given visions through their dreams, but they don't remember the dream and aren't reminded of it until the actual act happens - thus the feeling you get like the event had happened before.

[OSUGiants17]

Let's hope I was seeing the future

[TitanHope]

http://technologizer.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/richter.jpg

The future, OSUGiants?

[Brent]

The future, OSUGiants?
The future, TH!

IN THE YEAR TWO THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAND

[OSUGiants17]

Lol, well if I did, it was the not so distant future, cause we only have 9 classes left in history.

[thefalconer]

ladder theory and a bunch of the advice here is legit for the vast majority of chicks grown and raised in american society but asian girls are a whole new animal to figure out. sigh.

[OSUGiants17]

There's like 1 month left of school tho for me to get her

[KCJ58]

There's like 1 month left of school tho for me to get her


this is my dilemma as well but instead of 1 month i got less than 2 weeks

[BigJohn98]

Ok, so here's this little situation I'm in.

My buddy texted me about 2 and a half weeks ago saying his gf had a friend who wants to meet me.

So we made plans to all go to the beach together, and she bailed and never showed up for that.

Then last Friday night we were supposed to meet and chill together at the beach. Me, my buddy, and his gf were at Chick-Fil-A, and his gf gets a text from her friend saying she's not going. Said she was doing some application stuff for college.

So my question is, should I even bother meeting her? Part of me wants to but part of me is saying "this b**ch can't even follow through with plans, so why bother?"

[OSUGiants17]

Ok, so here's this little situation I'm in.

My buddy texted me about 2 and a half weeks ago saying his gf had a friend who wants to meet me.

So we made plans to all go to the beach together, and she bailed and never showed up for that.

Then last Friday night we were supposed to meet and chill together at the beach. Me, my buddy, and his gf were at Chick-Fil-A, and his gf gets a text from her friend saying she's not going. Said she was doing some application stuff for college.

So my question is, should I even bother meeting her? Part of me wants to but part of me is saying "this b**ch can't even follow through with plans, so why bother?"

I'm starting to get the feeling you're buddy or his gf began thinking of you as a 3rd wheel and just tried to set you up with her single friend or she said to your buddy "Hey BigJohn is single right, I have friend who just got out of a bad breakup and could use a date to get over him, maybe we could hook them up." and the gf's friend doesn't wanna get over him so she cancels plans

[TitanHope]

I've stopped pursuing a girl because she was a flake.

If you're really interested, try getting her number and initiating something yourself. If she's really hot, go for it. My girl was nice, but she wasn't worth the hassle and frustration for me.

[VoteLynnSwan]

Ok, so here's this little situation I'm in.

My buddy texted me about 2 and a half weeks ago saying his gf had a friend who wants to meet me.

So we made plans to all go to the beach together, and she bailed and never showed up for that.

Then last Friday night we were supposed to meet and chill together at the beach. Me, my buddy, and his gf were at Chick-Fil-A, and his gf gets a text from her friend saying she's not going. Said she was doing some application stuff for college.

So my question is, should I even bother meeting her? Part of me wants to but part of me is saying "this b**ch can't even follow through with plans, so why bother?"

it's not like it hurts anything to actually go out with her. I wouldn't go out of my way with a girl like this, but you never know, it's worth a shot.

[StickSkills]

So last night I was at the volleyball game at my school getting photos for the volleyball coach and stuff. Anyways, that girl shows up with her boyfriend and I was just kinda like, "oh dear..." but then during the game she would text me and ish. I was like, "god damn it, I'm trying to not talk to you... especially when you're next to your boyfriend."

Then she made it a point to say good-bye to me on her way out. As I was walking to my car, i realized that they were like 150 feet in front of me with their arms around each other as they walked to her car... which she parked right next to me.

Throw that on top of my dad getting a notice by PSU saying that he's done with them after next year, meaning that I lose the discount that was going to pay for my room and board and i had a pretty s****y day.

[Brent]

So last night I was at the volleyball game at my school getting photos for the volleyball coach and stuff. Anyways, that girl shows up with her boyfriend and I was just kinda like, "oh dear..." but then during the game she would text me and ish. I was like, "god damn it, I'm trying to not talk to you... especially when you're next to your boyfriend."

Then she made it a point to say good-bye to me on her way out. As I was walking to my car, i realized that they were like 150 feet in front of me with their arms around each other as they walked to her car... which she parked right next to me.

Throw that on top of my dad getting a notice by PSU saying that he's done with them after next year, meaning that I lose the discount that was going to pay for my room and board and i had a pretty s****y day.
only one thing can be said:

dSJxvi767kQ

[yourfavestoner]

Lol, well if I did, it was the not so distant future, cause we only have 9 classes left in history.

I want you to know too that ladder theory will only help you in the opening stages of getting to know the girl. If you want a relationship with her, you'll have to strike a good balance of not being too available, yet making sure she knows you're interested. Eventually you'll grow closer, and (if you both feel you're compatible) talk about making more of a commitment to each other.

Just be careful, because at your age, you're bound to start feeling really intense feelings to any girl who shows interest back to you. Just realize that this period of your life is all about learning, and I promise that you will eventually break up. You're figuring out who you are still, so just keep learning from your mistakes.

[bsaza2358]

Ok, I have moved on bsaza, and now I need help with another girl. There is a girl I like and we have 2 classes together and both run track. We talk in classes and at track only. We kinda flirt with eachother. But, there are 3 problems:
1. She is going to senior prom with another guy. They aren't going out, just going to prom together. She is in my grade(sophmore) btw.
2. If we went out, it would be one of the most awkward couples in the school cause she is so much more popular than me.
3. I don't really have much confidence or game(as a result of problem 2)

Help me please.

Who are you to say it would be awkward? The girl is popular, but so what? If you make her happy, you make her happy. All of your problems stem from #3. Why not have confidence? The popular chick is flirting with you. You can handle this situation. Just have to believe in yourself and not give yourself any excuses. When you say "I don't have any game" or "I'm not popular enough", that's just you setting yourself up to handle failure. If you think this way, you have little chance of succeeding.

[bsaza2358]

Ok, so here's this little situation I'm in.

My buddy texted me about 2 and a half weeks ago saying his gf had a friend who wants to meet me.

So we made plans to all go to the beach together, and she bailed and never showed up for that.

Then last Friday night we were supposed to meet and chill together at the beach. Me, my buddy, and his gf were at Chick-Fil-A, and his gf gets a text from her friend saying she's not going. Said she was doing some application stuff for college.

So my question is, should I even bother meeting her? Part of me wants to but part of me is saying "this b**ch can't even follow through with plans, so why bother?"

I would say keep the situation open, but don't count on her at this stage. It's possible that when your buddy said she wanted to meet you, he was overselling her actual level of interest. Not to say she didn't want to meet you, but if she had other things come up, she wasn't going to change plans to meet you. Don't read too much into it. She doesn't know you yet. Keep an open mind, keep having fun, keep meeting chicks, and whatever happens will happen. I'm sure this girl is missing out.

When you do meet her, don't throw any of it in her face. Make a joke out of it like, "I know I'm super good looking and all, but were you so intimidated that you chickened out before?"... Acting casual even though you think this girl is playing you is probably the best way to go. There's nothing to be gained from being a jerk about it. People have other things going on in their lives. For instance, my current gf canceled our third date twice, claiming she had to be out of town with her sick father. I was understanding and flexible. Turns out he really was sick and eventually passed away a few weeks back. However, my being understanding made it possible for her to trust me, and now things are good.

[OSUGiants17]

good news today:
- talked to her in the 1 class we had
- I got some confidence, I walked with a little swag in my step today and I was smiling. We smiled at eachother once in the hallway.

[jballa838]

good news today:
- talked to her in the 1 class we had
- I got some confidence, I walked with a little swag in my step today and I was smiling. We smiled at eachother once in the hallway.
ahhh the middle school days...

[OSUGiants17]

try sophmore in highschool, lol.

[The Unseen]

try sophmore in highschool, lol.

ahhh the sophomore in highschool days...

[DeepThreat]

ahhh the sophomore in highschool days...

I find this offensive. Most sophomores aren't nearly that cheesy.

[bored of education]

I think I may have a problem:

Everytime I meet a female, I first think would I fornicate her? I allow that to determine the type of relationship I will have with her. Someone help me

[OSUGiants17]

b.o.e that's called being in your 20's and having a ****

[OSUGiants17]

I find this offensive. Most sophomores aren't nearly that cheesy.

hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it aint easay bein cheesay!

besides, I am not this cheesy in person

[bored of education]

b.o.e that's called being in your 20's and having a ****

no you dont understand. i will say hi nice to meet you im boe. if shes not hot i just turn around walk away. if shes hot im like hi im boe..lets bone. its the first thing i think everrry time i meet a broad

[OSUGiants17]

do you say it to her or just think it? Cause I'm pretty sure a lot of people think it, lol

[Vikes99ej]

How to approach a group of 4 to 6 girls at a bar or club? I'm usually with my buddy, and damn that's so intimidating

[YAYareaRB]

Act like you're interested in all of them.

[The Unseen]

when in doubt, whip it out









i mean your credit card, oh you thought I meant ohhhh hahahaha yeah you'd lose.

[TitanHope]

How to approach a group of 4 to 6 girls at a bar or club? I'm usually with my buddy, and damn that's so intimidating

Wait til they go to the bathroom or something. The group will halve during bathroom breaks, leaving fewer girls at the table. I wouldn't just wander aimlessly over wanting to start something. Make sure to make the eye contact or across the floor/room smile before hand, then once the herd thins, you and your buddy head over to the girl's table. Maybe buy them a drink or ask if they wanna dance. "Mind if we keep ya'll company til your friend get back?" is always good too. Gets your interest in them across without being too forward, and leaving an exit that isn't awkward.

If there's ever a huge group, you're right. Just way too hard to get an entry point without luck or just a really aggressive chick.

Also, female wingmen are aces.

[Ravens1991]

OK I am a tough situation w/ my friends relationship. He has been whipped for 2 years by this chick. Well finally this girl says to him "You put your friends, college wrestling and school ahead of me" This is completely BS because I am his only friend left in his home town because he is so whipped. She put a ultimatum on him, either she is #1 or its done. He told me this and I hope they break up (she is really disrespectful to me and my parents, I could make a long list of why I dislike her).

Now I am hesitant to say how she treats him like **** and he should run off as far as possible because if they get back together and he knows I think of his girl like that our friendship will be hurt. I just said to him the best relationships are all about compromises and you are only young once you will find someone fine if they break up.

Would you tell him how you really feel about her or what? Me and all his friends at college dislike her but we dont know exactly what we should do.

[yourfavestoner]

OK I am a tough situation w/ my friends relationship. He has been whipped for 2 years by this chick. Well finally this girl says to him "You put your friends, college wrestling and school ahead of me" This is completely BS because I am his only friend left in his home town because he is so whipped. She put a ultimatum on him, either she is #1 or its done. He told me this and I hope they break up (she is really disrespectful to me and my parents, I could make a long list of why I dislike her).

Now I am hesitant to say how she treats him like **** and he should run off as far as possible because if they get back together and he knows I think of his girl like that our friendship will be hurt. I just said to him the best relationships are all about compromises and you are only young once you will find someone fine if they break up.

Would you tell him how you really feel about her or what? Me and all his friends at college dislike her but we dont know exactly what we should do.

You need to tell your friend how incredibly selfish it is for his gf to ask that of him. Like seriously, he needs to run as far as possible.

We've all had friends in this situation. It'll be tough though because everything she says is going to mean 932485093458 times more than anything you say, because she's sucking his dick and you're not.

Really you need to stress to him that any chick worth being with would never ask him to blindly devote himself to her at the risk of everything else that makes him happy in his life.

[Ravens1991]

yeah I want to tell him that, but I am nervous they just get back together. He was home schooled until HS so he is still a little socially awkward, I just hope he can figure it all out.

[bsaza2358]

OK I am a tough situation w/ my friends relationship. He has been whipped for 2 years by this chick. Well finally this girl says to him "You put your friends, college wrestling and school ahead of me" This is completely BS because I am his only friend left in his home town because he is so whipped. She put a ultimatum on him, either she is #1 or its done. He told me this and I hope they break up (she is really disrespectful to me and my parents, I could make a long list of why I dislike her).

Now I am hesitant to say how she treats him like **** and he should run off as far as possible because if they get back together and he knows I think of his girl like that our friendship will be hurt. I just said to him the best relationships are all about compromises and you are only young once you will find someone fine if they break up.

Would you tell him how you really feel about her or what? Me and all his friends at college dislike her but we dont know exactly what we should do.

Your buddy is pretty whipped, and he’s with a control freak who defines her own happiness by her own “empire”. She perceives anything that isn’t her as a “threat”, and she has battled hard to get him to cut everything else out. It’s almost like he’s been abused for so long, he considers the abuse “normal”. There is no way for you to combat it because she has conditioned him to think about her happiness and perceived needs ahead of his own. The problem with that situation is that once he cuts off all of his friends and activities to make her happy, she’s still going to be finding things to whine about and make him give up. He’s essentially addicted to her codependence and some sort of ego boost he thinks he gets from being with her. He hasn’t hit bottom yet, but it’s coming at some point.

I don’t think you have a chance to break him of her right now. He still thinks he’s happy. You can’t talk trash about her because that will be counterproductive. I think the appropriate way to go is to sit him down for a heart-to-heart. Tell him: “If this is what you think you have to do to make yourself happy, go for it. I’ll be here if you ever need me.” At the same time, point out that your friendships are so important to you, you’d never give them up just because someone asked you to. You can say that you’re upset that he has to choose between you and her, but you understand.

You essentially have to let your boy make his own mistakes. Your tactics here have to be very low impact, but what you say has to be high impact. Essentially make sure that he absolutely wants to choose her and only her. If that’s what he wants, you have to let him go. If he says it’s not what he wants, ask him why he’s considering it. Tell him the truth without talking badly about her. Tell him you miss having him around, that it would suck if you couldn’t hang out anymore. If he asks your advice, say that you wouldn’t allow someone to ask you to make that choice. You can’t tell him what to do. You can only express disappointment that your friendship is kind of taking a hiatus without bashing her.

It will take a great deal of self control to accomplish this, and you have to go in realizing that you’re likely going to not be close friends for a few months at least. If he’s a real friend, when he comes to you for help in the future, don’t turn him away. Just hope that he has enough strength to get out of that situation before it’s too late. However, you can’t force him. If you get too aggressive, it’s just going to push him further away. You have to let him come to that realization on his own.

[yourfavestoner]

^^^ Absolutely perfect way to handle it.

[YAYareaRB]

Just tell him ..

Je8K_hCej3s

In all seriousness though, I've been in the situation before and there's no real way to go about it. Even if you sit down and have a heart-to-heart, there's no changing his mind about the girl. My whipped friend is still whipped, but he was my friend before he was my whipped friend so I'll continue to be his friend.. no point in leaving him high and dry now.

No right way to deal with the control freak GFs either. They are the type of people who always think they're right and like to dominate arguments and conversations. So when they get into relationships with guys who aren't so confrontational and loud, being "whipped" occurs.

But I do think your best bet is to sit down and talk.. ALONE! at a bar or something. Advise him to think and ponder on his priorities.

[Brent]

You essentially have to let your boy make his own mistakes.
The last/only long-term relationship I've ever had was basically me being whipped. I've got a very nonchalant personality, and she was a bit controlling. I just kind of went with whatever, because she would still want to do **** with my friends, that is, until she was bored. Eventually she will grow tired of the guy, or he will wise up. Regardless, it's going to end. Just give it time, let him know that you miss hanging out with him and say nothing bad about her.

Once she is gone and he's over it. Then you can tell him how she was not good for him at all.

[SickwithIt1010]

good news today:
- talked to her in the 1 class we had
- I got some confidence, I walked with a little swag in my step today and I was smiling. We smiled at eachother once in the hallway.

sorry but it sounds a little mclovin-ish to me.

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[ATLDirtyBirds]

How to approach a group of 4 to 6 girls at a bar or club? I'm usually with my buddy, and damn that's so intimidating


It's a little tougher if you are split close to even on the girls being attractive/ugly, but you can make it work. Just walk up to them with your friend so you aren't just some idiot who is going to get laughed at. When you approach the table say something like, "How's it going? I couldn't miss this chance to come over and talk to this little gang we've got going on here." Smile, take note of the reaction and go for the kill on whichever one you want most or get the best vibe from.


That's my main advice. Unless you've got a hideous set of teeth always drop a smile in there even if you are playing the asshole card like a frequently do.

[Finz99]

I broke up with my girlfriend of a year yesterday. Ughhh it's rough breaking up with someone.

[OSUGiants17]

Ok, more good news, we walked together to the two classes and talked the whole time, and cracked jokes with eachother

[BuckeyeDan17]

Why is it so rough Finz? Why did you leave her?

[Finz99]

Why is it so rough Finz? Why did you leave her?

I left her because we began to fight more and more over the past couple months and I started to not give 100% in the relationship anymore, and it just wasn't fair to her.

and I've never broken up with someone before, and to break up with someone who was so attached to me, and so genuinely nice and caring to me was really hard to do. I felt like a horrible person after. Breaking up sucks.

[BuckeyeDan17]

My girlfriend and I had a rough few months, and we split because of it. Back together after spring break though. Surprisingly, things got better and have stayed better. Neither here nor there though. It seems like you did it for the right reasons, and I commend you on being so respectful to her. Wish I was like that.

Enjoy being single though.

[TitanHope]

Ok, more good news, we walked together to the two classes and talked the whole time, and cracked jokes with eachother

Good start! How's her body language while she's walking with you, and what are ya'll talking about? Can you kinda tell if she likes you back?

Also, this just kinda came to me that I didn't think of before. Popularity means zilch over the summer. If ya'll date through the summer, then it won't be awkward when ya'll first come back to school. Plus, she'll know your friends, and you'll know hers, so it won't be having to meet new people on the go.

[OSUGiants17]

We just talk about track, what we're doing over the summer, school, poke fun at eachother. She looks at me when we talk and doesn't look away, which shows that she's interested in what I have to say. At one point she walked ahead of me to get to her locker and when she walked away, she started to walk all sexy and strut her stuff showing off her ass. I gotta get her # though If I wanna stay in touch over the summer. Any advice on how to get it? Do I just say something like "Hey I gotta new phone, what's your # again? I'm pretty sure I had it on my old phone, but I lost all my numbers."?

[Ravens1991]

Your buddy is pretty whipped, and he’s with a control freak who defines her own happiness by her own “empire”. She perceives anything that isn’t her as a “threat”, and she has battled hard to get him to cut everything else out. It’s almost like he’s been abused for so long, he considers the abuse “normal”. There is no way for you to combat it because she has conditioned him to think about her happiness and perceived needs ahead of his own. The problem with that situation is that once he cuts off all of his friends and activities to make her happy, she’s still going to be finding things to whine about and make him give up. He’s essentially addicted to her codependence and some sort of ego boost he thinks he gets from being with her. He hasn’t hit bottom yet, but it’s coming at some point.

I don’t think you have a chance to break him of her right now. He still thinks he’s happy. You can’t talk trash about her because that will be counterproductive. I think the appropriate way to go is to sit him down for a heart-to-heart. Tell him: “If this is what you think you have to do to make yourself happy, go for it. I’ll be here if you ever need me.” At the same time, point out that your friendships are so important to you, you’d never give them up just because someone asked you to. You can say that you’re upset that he has to choose between you and her, but you understand.

You essentially have to let your boy make his own mistakes. Your tactics here have to be very low impact, but what you say has to be high impact. Essentially make sure that he absolutely wants to choose her and only her. If that’s what he wants, you have to let him go. If he says it’s not what he wants, ask him why he’s considering it. Tell him the truth without talking badly about her. Tell him you miss having him around, that it would suck if you couldn’t hang out anymore. If he asks your advice, say that you wouldn’t allow someone to ask you to make that choice. You can’t tell him what to do. You can only express disappointment that your friendship is kind of taking a hiatus without bashing her.

It will take a great deal of self control to accomplish this, and you have to go in realizing that you’re likely going to not be close friends for a few months at least. If he’s a real friend, when he comes to you for help in the future, don’t turn him away. Just hope that he has enough strength to get out of that situation before it’s too late. However, you can’t force him. If you get too aggressive, it’s just going to push him further away. You have to let him come to that realization on his own.

Great way to andle it, I am away for my sisters graduation but I texted him just saying "how is everything going" but he didnt respond so who knows whats going on.





Also OSUGiants you can just say to her whats your # we should hang out this summer or something like that. Or say you need it just in case you have questions about any track meets.

[thefalconer]

We just talk about track, what we're doing over the summer, school, poke fun at eachother. She looks at me when we talk and doesn't look away, which shows that she's interested in what I have to say. At one point she walked ahead of me to get to her locker and when she walked away, she started to walk all sexy and strut her stuff showing off her ass. I gotta get her # though If I wanna stay in touch over the summer. Any advice on how to get it? Do I just say something like "Hey I gotta new phone, what's your # again? I'm pretty sure I had it on my old phone, but I lost all my numbers."?

be direct and say you wanna hang out over the summer and you're gonna need her number. confidence son.

[yourfavestoner]

be direct and say you wanna hang out over the summer and you're gonna need her number. confidence son.

This. Don't ask her. Be assertive.

[TitanHope]

We just talk about track, what we're doing over the summer, school, poke fun at eachother. She looks at me when we talk and doesn't look away, which shows that she's interested in what I have to say. At one point she walked ahead of me to get to her locker and when she walked away, she started to walk all sexy and strut her stuff showing off her ass. I gotta get her # though If I wanna stay in touch over the summer. Any advice on how to get it? Do I just say something like "Hey I gotta new phone, what's your # again? I'm pretty sure I had it on my old phone, but I lost all my numbers."?

She have a facebook? Friend request her, and see if she put her # on her profile. If you ask one of her friends, the friend will tell her you asked so it's better to just ask her yourself, y'know, that way you don't look like a puss. :D

But yeah, just like Ravens said. Just one day like today where ya had a good time with her, ask her if you could get her #. Sometimes it's better to just ask if she wants to hang out this summer, and if she says yes, then exchange numbers then. Being direct with her will earn confidence points with her.

Also, pool parties over the summer in high school were awesome. No girl (hell, no person) turns down a pool party. If you're not sure on an activity or something, use a pool party or swimming. DO NOT USE TRACK AS AN EXCUSE TO GET HER # OR HANG OUT! Saying, "I need a track partner" or something like that is a quick way to the friend zone. That's something you do with buddies. You do that after you've spent time with her and ya'll are talking/dating since it's a common interest, not beforehand.

[OSUGiants17]

We already are friends on facebook and no, it's not on there. I will try and get her # soon.

[BigJohn98]

Just be yourself, man. Joke with her, make her laugh. If there are any school functions like plays or some **** like that left before you get out of school, invite her to go with you to one of those. Or just ask one day if she wants to hang out, get food, or w/e, then ask her for her number.

[YAYareaRB]

I love that you pointed out her changed walk when she walked in front of you. In every case that I've seen a girl watching me look at her, they always strut.

It reminds me of this one time in HS, I was driving around with a friend going to lunch and this girl I dated before was in the car in front of us. I told my friend "Watch I'm gonna call her once and she's gonna ignore me but then she's gonna tie up her hair and look in the mirror and drive slow so I can notice her." Sure enough she did it.

I dunno what it is but I think all girls do it if they sense that you're attracted to them

[OSUGiants17]

lol, I think you're right YAY

[TitanHope]

This is long but I talk about boobs, so read it!

It's still a good sign for them to want to show off to you. I was talking to this girl once in high school, and we were out one night with our youth group. We went out to eat and I was sitting directly across from her at the table, with the guys on my side and the girls on her side. Now, she was only a sophomore, but she was developed for her age. I think she was a 36C cup, and she was proud of her assets. So at one point, my attention turned away from her and towards the guys, so what does she do? She moves her arms forward in the way that it made her boobs perk up higher and she was wearing a farily low cut shirt (about as low as you can tastefully wear on a church youth outing, lol) so her cleavage was like WHABAM! Needless to say, she got my attention back. Even one of my friendgirls who was sitting next to her looked over and saw what she was doing and went, "Dang Leah!" She just started laughing, and kinda gave me a look that basically gave me the full green light. We went out for like a year and a half.

She was out of my league too. We went to a small Christian high school, and our entire school totalled about 80 people. So it wasn't that big of a deal since everyone knew everyone, plus I was an upperclassman. But she was the hottest sophomore girl in the school, by a large margin, and I didn't think I had a chance with her when I first met her cause every guy in the school wanted her as soon as she stepped on campus. I've got confidence because I think I'm handsome, funny, smart, and am a southern gent, but I'm also really short (5'5), I can't do sports because I'm a cancer survivor which has caused me to have too many surgeries and health stuff (chemotherapy caused my growth to be stunted, which is why I'm only 5'5), and it's a tough job being involved with someone with health issues. So for a girl like her to pick me over the countless other guys really impressed me and proved to me that Ms. Popular isn't always shallow.

So yeah, that's why I asked about her body language. The booty walk is pretty instinctive, but they know they're doing it so it's a good sign that she's not just humoring you or something. Watch her wardrobe, and see if she starts wearing hotter outfits that accentuate the parts of her body she wants to. Try to compliment her outfit if you see them getting nicer, but do so in a noncreeper and nongay way. Don't say she looks cute, cause that's kind of a *** or friend comment. Get creative with your compliments and open your vocabulary. Stunning, enchanting, enamored, scintillating, etc. "You look stunning today," "I never noticed how enchanting your eyes are until now. I'm enamored by them." "That shirt is absolutely scintillating. You trying to impress somebody? /wink." Those leave twice as big of an impression on the girl than saying some generic, "You look pretty," or "Your shirt is cute." Also, only compliment things you know she's proud of. For example, if you think she's self-conscious about her smile, don't go out of your way to say she has a nice smile. She'll think you're just saying that to make her less self-conscious, even if you're sincere. If you think she's proud of her eyes or hair, then compliment those. She'll take those as genuine comments and be happy they're about the features she likes about herself, which will mean more.

I wanna hear about this girl we're trying to help ya with, OSUG! What'd you rate her on a scale of 1-10? What's her appearance look like? Inquiring pervy minds would like to know! :D

[OSUGiants17]

Thanks for the help man, I will start to find a way to complement her without being a creeper.

7, she is kinda short(about 5'5-5'6), she has a tight, thin body, small boobs, great ass, brunette. IDK what else to say.

[TitanHope]

It can just be kind've awkward after you compliment a girl, which is why I said creeper (I guess awkward of sketchy would've been better, but you get it).

You: "You have pretty eyes."
Her: "Thanks..."
Background: *crickets*

So timing it right and making it impactful is the way to go. You want to leave her with nothing to say, not the other way around. That is, if she's one of those girls who denies every. single. compliment. you. make. I pseudo-dated a girl like that. She thought she was fat, and while she wasn't skinny, she wasn't big at all. She ate well and exercised (played volleyball), so she was just fine. I thought she was beautiful anyway. Well, everytime I called her pretty or something, she disregared it. Then she'd turn around and fish for compliments by saying she was fat, wasn't pretty enough, whatever. It got sooo annoying. One of the most annoying thing a girl can do, for me at least. /rant

But yeah, she sounds nice. Doesn't sound like she's out of your league. She's probably self-conscious about her boob size, body size (whether height or weight), and a number of other miniscule faults she finds that you easily look past or are just nonexistant. Add in all her friends have BF's, and she could be eager to find someone. You got this in the bag mate!

[Vikes99ej]

My advice is do something right now. Don't wait for anything or anyone. The longer you wait, the deeper into the friend zone you go.

[Vikes99ej]

It's a little tougher if you are split close to even on the girls being attractive/ugly, but you can make it work. Just walk up to them with your friend so you aren't just some idiot who is going to get laughed at. When you approach the table say something like, "How's it going? I couldn't miss this chance to come over and talk to this little gang we've got going on here." Smile, take note of the reaction and go for the kill on whichever one you want most or get the best vibe from.


That's my main advice. Unless you've got a hideous set of teeth always drop a smile in there even if you are playing the asshole card like a frequently do.

Yeah well my teeth kinda suck so I'm S.O.L.

Going out again tonight. Give me something motivational, people!

[OSUGiants17]

I just can't **** it up and gotta make sure to stay in touch over summer.

[Vikes99ej]

I just can't **** it up and gotta make sure to stay in touch over summer.

Yes, you can **** it up. Still in high school, aren't you? Christ, I'm sure there are girls everywhere. You can always **** it up.

[OSUGiants17]

yeah I'm in HS, so it there are plenty others, but I got confidence and I no longer think she is out of my league, or too popular, that's just me putting myself down. I gotta step up and be the big man. I have been more aggresive talking to her lately, pulluing her away from a convo with another guy when I see she isn't interested and keeps looking away and pausing before a response.

[OSUGiants17]

Yes, you can **** it up. Still in high school, aren't you? Christ, I'm sure there are girls everywhere. You can always **** it up.

also, this is the complete opposite of advice, lol. You're kinda making things worse. But whatever, I don't really care if there are other girls, she's the one I want and when I set out to do something I do it.

[Vikes99ej]

yeah I'm in HS, so it there are plenty others, but I got confidence and I no longer think she is out of my league, or too popular, that's just me putting myself down. I gotta step up and be the big man. I have been more aggresive talking to her lately, pulluing her away from a convo with another guy when I see she isn't interested and keeps looking away and pausing before a response.

Go in for the kill then. Just be smooth, but make your intentions known.

[OSUGiants17]

Go in for the kill then. Just be smooth, but make your intentions known.

I can't go in for the kill just yet.

[yourfavestoner]

I've actually got a good feeling in regards to your situation OSU.

[OSUGiants17]

Thanks yfs. I really hope it works out. I got a good feeling about it too.

P.s. I'm so happy youre back in the off-topic thread. I legit signed that petition like 9 times.

[OSUGiants17]

I think I just got a good idea. Our school is having culture week soon and if I setup a table I get extra credit in Spanish. My Spanish teacher is Italian and so is the girl I like. I might ask the girl if she is seting up a table(almost all the teachers offer it as extra help) and if she says yes ask her if I can help cause I need the extracred, and if she says no, ask her if she can help me set up the Italy table.

[molenguinurtle]

This thread needs to be renamed to "OSUGiants17's Relationship Advice Thread." I really hope this ish works out for you man. Just go hard.

[OSUGiants17]

lol, I really didn't start asking for advice until this week. And thanks man, I hope it does too

[ATLDirtyBirds]

OSU, go after it on this situation. However, as a High School Soph. don't be overly concentrated with the friend zone. You have to draw a line on some cases, but be satisfied with a couple of girl friends. Someone you can just be easy and cool with. Don't hang all over her but just have someone you can chat with and learn to be more comfortable around girls. Find out what works, what they like, etc. Girls generally have similar mindsets on things.

[OSUGiants17]

I have a few girl friends, and I know exactly what you mean man. Thanks for the help guys, I will keep ya'll updated

[BuckeyeDan17]

I'm starting to think my girlfriend is a delusional person. It's like she feels her opinions are facts. I just give up on fighting with her sometimes. She has no ******* respect for logic and rationality. This kind of stuff doesn't make me feel guilty for my infidelity.

End rant.

[JF4]

I'm starting to think my girlfriend is a delusional person. It's like she feels her opinions are facts. I just give up on fighting with her sometimes. She has no ******* respect for logic and rationality. This kind of stuff doesn't make me feel guilty for my infidelity.

End rant.

That pretty much sums up 90% of girls.

My advice, laugh it off and know that this will bite her in the ass later in life.

[Brent]

You: "You have pretty eyes."
Her: "Thanks..."
Background: *crickets*
why would you compliment something she cannot control?

[StickSkills]

Is the idea of instead of just having the female footstool there but instead to start going after that too a bad idea?

[OSUGiants17]

why would you compliment something she cannot control?

Lol, very true. I will stay away from the eye and smile compliments(for now)

[TitanHope]

why would you compliment something she cannot control?

Why wouldn't you compliment something she cannot control?

[OSUGiants17]

Well the only time I should complement something she can't control is if she is self consious about it

[TitanHope]

Well the only time I should complement something she can't control is if she is self consious about it

No, you shouldn't compliment those things, cause she'll think you're just saying things to be nice or to try to make her not be self-conscious. But no matter what you say about the traits about her you like but she doesn't like, it won't change the way she feels about herself.

If you're wanting to truly compliment her to make her feel better about herself, not use them as a way to show that you look past what faults she has, then complimenting something about her that she likes about herself or is proud of is the way to go. If you're still wanting her to feel good about herself, being subtle about the things she isn't happy about works better than putting it under a microscope.

For example, say you're a boob guy and not an ass man, but the girl you're dating is rockin' a small B-cup and an awesome butt. She knows you like boobs more and is self-conscious, but you like her boobs anyway. Even if you like them and want her to know that, don't waste your time acknowledging how great you think they are. She'd rather know you like her butt, since it's what she's proudest of. Her being able to turn you from a boob guy to an ass man would be the highest compliment to her back end, haha.

That's all further along in the relationship when you actually know what her body looks like though. Compliments are never a bad thing. That's just how they work. And like everything else in a relationship, there's a fine line with them. Too much will make you look needy, and too little will make you look inconsiderate. So if you had a hypothetical compliment quota, using them to boost the stuff she wants to flaunt would be the most effective use of them - I guess that's what I'm trying to say.

[Brent]

Lol, very true. I will stay away from the eye and smile compliments(for now)
There is a way to phrase them, which might sound cheesy but can work. See below,

Why wouldn't you compliment something she cannot control?
I'm not saying that he shouldnt entirely, forgive the lack of explanation. If I were to compliment something about her genetics (eyes, natural hair color, whatever) then I say it like this (in the right moment): "forgive me if I stare but there is something about your eyes that draws me in." Now, I dont have the time or energy to explain the few situations where **** like that is gold but I think most of you get what I am trying to communicate.

[BuckeyeDan17]

How come it's so flattering to me then when girls tell me I have beautiful eyes?

Am I just easily flattered? :(

Interesting.

[OSUGiants17]

No, you shouldn't compliment those things, cause she'll think you're just saying things to be nice or to try to make her not be self-conscious. But no matter what you say about the traits about her you like but she doesn't like, it won't change the way she feels about herself.

If you're wanting to truly compliment her to make her feel better about herself, not use them as a way to show that you look past what faults she has, then complimenting something about her that she likes about herself or is proud of is the way to go. If you're still wanting her to feel good about herself, being subtle about the things she isn't happy about works better than putting it under a microscope.

For example, say you're a boob guy and not an ass man, but the girl you're dating is rockin' a small B-cup and an awesome butt. She knows you like boobs more and is self-conscious, but you like her boobs anyway. Even if you like them and want her to know that, don't waste your time acknowledging how great you think they are. She'd rather know you like her butt, since it's what she's proudest of. Her being able to turn you from a boob guy to an ass man would be the highest compliment to her back end, haha.

That's all further along in the relationship when you actually know what her body looks like though. Compliments are never a bad thing. That's just how they work. And like everything else in a relationship, there's a fine line with them. Too much will make you look needy, and too little will make you look inconsiderate. So if you had a hypothetical compliment quota, using them to boost the stuff she wants to flaunt would be the most effective use of them - I guess that's what I'm trying to say.

Ok, I get it now. Complement what she feels are her best attributes

[Brent]

How come it's so flattering to me then when girls tell me I have beautiful eyes?
because you want to insert your phallus into her vaginus

[Sniper]

For example, say you're a boob guy and not an ass man

Well, that's the first mistake.

[TitanHope]

How come it's so flattering to me then when girls tell me I have beautiful eyes?

Am I just easily flattered? :(

Interesting.

No, it's just guys take compliments much better than girls do and like Brent said, being told something about you is attractive to a girl makes you glad because it could lead to other stuff.

I also think girls are more immune to compliments. Cause I mean, think about it. How often do girls compliment one another. Go to any girl you know's facebook pictures, and just look through some of them. How many times do you see, "OMGGG! You're so pretttty!!!" or something like them commented below it by one of her friends? Even if girls don't like each other, they have no problem telling one another that they're pretty or something. So it's easy to just shrug them off.

As for guys, how many times do guys tell each other how handsome the other guy is? It's just not gonna happen. And like the ladder theory says, everything leads to sex when it comes to girls. So a girl saying that implies interest which makes you happy (and by you, I mean your dick), you're not used to being BS'ed or battered with meaningless compliments which makes you surprised, and there's a chance you like your eyes which appeals to your ego.

Well, that's the first mistake.

Nonsense!

There is a way to phrase them, which might sound cheesy but can work. See below,


I'm not saying that he shouldnt entirely, forgive the lack of explanation. If I were to compliment something about her genetics (eyes, natural hair color, whatever) then I say it like this (in the right moment): "forgive me if I stare but there is something about your eyes that draws me in." Now, I dont have the time or energy to explain the few situations where **** like that is gold but I think most of you get what I am trying to communicate.

At any points leading up to, during, or after kissing, cuddling or other frisky endeavors are involved.

[OSUGiants17]

Well, that's the first mistake.

I agree, I am a huge assman

[StickSkills]

As for guys, how many times do guys tell each other how handsome the other guy is? It's just not gonna happen. And like the ladder theory says, everything leads to sex when it comes to girls. So a girl saying that implies interest which makes you happy (and by you, I mean your dick), you're not used to being BS'ed or battered with meaningless compliments which makes you surprised, and there's a chance you like your eyes which appeals to your ego.


Sadly though, even if a girl gives you a compliment about how you smell good, are a good dancer, or how you look nice (on a random day when you're not even dressed up or anything) does not always mean she has interest...

[BuckeyeDan17]

Titan. Excellent insight. Never thought of it that way. If some dude told me I was handsome I would be like dude, are you serious?

Do you feel like girls for the most part give guys compliments to provide their display of interest? Or just being nice? I feel like it depends on the context of the situation. Not sure.

[TitanHope]

Titan. Excellent insight. Never thought of it that way. If some dude told me I was handsome I would be like dude, are you serious?

Do you feel like girls for the most part give guys compliments to provide their display of interest? Or just being nice? I feel like it depends on the context of the situation. Not sure.

It's impossible to tell. A lot of girls are just flirty. You have to see how she acts and what she says around other guys, not just yourself. If a non-friend zone girl is really flirty with you, but isn't that way to other guys, then there could be interest, but I don't necessarily see it as indicative. Unless it's brutally honest like she's hitting on you, then personally, I don't ever see flirting or compliments as a sign that she wants to be more than friends. Cause like I said, girls can just dish them out.

Like you said, sometimes it depends on the girl, the context of the situation, and combine it with exactly what she says. For some girls, openly complimenting a guy could be a sign he's definitely in the friend zone. For some, maybe it means something completely different. Most of the time, I'd say she's just being nice.

What she compliments you on is important as well, but that depends on the guy and his traits. I have natural, dark, curly hair, and I get compliments on it all the time from girls. So a girl complimenting my hair doesn't phase me. If she were to compliment my eyes or smile though, it'd make me think twice.

This could be a Bsaza topic, lol, but I'd love to hear other guys' opinions on this. I think they'd agree that it doesn't mean much though. Girls' minds just think differently than ours, so what we perceive is often much different than what they're meaning.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

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[BuckeyeDan17]

GF and I finally split, about damn time.

So ******* relieved, now I don't have to feel bad for ******* who I want.

Offically single :)

[StickSkills]

Alright guys, I haven't talked to that girl as much recently and didn't hang out with her at all this weekend. I'm taking your advice. I gotta say though, it's weird.

EDIT:
I post this then she texts me...

Either way, thanks for helping me realize whats up.

[OSUGiants17]

talked some more today, one of the classes we share has a state test at the end of the year(the other is an elective) so I might ask her when we get closer to the test if she wants to study together and I could also use that as a way to get her #

[kalbears13]

first date ideas, anyone?

[OSUGiants17]

Casual date or looking to score date?

[yourfavestoner]

GF and I finally split, about damn time.

So ******* relieved, now I don't have to feel bad for ******* who I want.

Offically single :)
You should have done it a long time ago, but good for you.

[Brent]

first date ideas, anyone?
what city are you in? that helps

[kalbears13]

Casual (but it can't be interpreted as a just friends kind of date) & Pomona

[bsaza2358]

Ugh. The girl doesn't know it's a date, so you have to send that message? First dates need to be lower impact. Go mini golfing and for ice cream. Bowling. Pool. Go to the bar. Go to a game. If the girl is a friend, you should have asked her out to begin with. If it's in limbo, you need to make your intentions known.

[yourfavestoner]

Casual (but it can't be interpreted as a just friends kind of date) & Pomona

Where in Pomona? I really suggest you just hop on the 71 and go to the Shoppes in Chino Hills. There's a bunch of cool stores and **** and a TON of bars posing as restaraunts.

I still think that's so funny....the City Council in Chino Hills is uber-conservative and getting bars cleared through them was a nightmare (we had only one true bar in the city). So when they really started turning this city into a suburban shopper's paradise, they put HUGE bars in every restaraunt (RA sushi, Roscoe's Deli, Yardhouse Brewery). Anyways, I'm going off on a tangent, but there's a ton of really cool places to drink out here now.

[kalbears13]

Ugh. The girl doesn't know it's a date, so you have to send that message? First dates need to be lower impact. Go mini golfing and for ice cream. Bowling. Pool. Go to the bar. Go to a game. If the girl is a friend, you should have asked her out to begin with. If it's in limbo, you need to make your intentions known.

I really didn't start talking to her until this past weekend. I'm just trying to make sure she knows my intentions because she has turned down a lot of guys because she has thought of them as friends. She's one of those girls who takes a while to warm up to a guy.

Where in Pomona? I really suggest you just hop on the 71 and go to the Shoppes in Chino Hills. There's a bunch of cool stores and **** and a TON of bars posing as restaraunts.

I still think that's so funny....the City Council in Chino Hills is uber-conservative and getting bars cleared through them was a nightmare (we had only one true bar in the city). So when they really started turning this city into a suburban shopper's paradise, they put HUGE bars in every restaraunt (RA sushi, Roscoe's Deli, Yardhouse Brewery). Anyways, I'm going off on a tangent, but there's a ton of really cool places to drink out here now.

I'm 20 so I can't go to bars and I go to CPP.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

What's a solid response to a girl saying something like "You're so mean to me" or "You are such an asshole!"

Note: She's pretty much right on both accounts, but still laughs at most everything I say and still talks to me so I'm just looking for something solid to reply with or to do.

[BigJohn98]

Finally hung out with that girl. Saturday me, her, and a couple other friends went to Mellow Mushroom, then went out and chilled at the beach. I asked her to take a walk with me on the beach and we got to know each other a little bit. Would have made a move but had to work early, and if I did, we would have been there all night.

Hung out with her and some friends again at the beach today and scored her number before we left.

[mqtirishfan]

Need a judgment call. I'm the other guy for a girl's relationship and she's probably breaking up with her boyfriend for me. But, she moved back home for the summer and hasn't done the breaking up part yet. Meanwhile, I'm stuck in town alone and waiting. Should I go for it with other girls in the mean-time, or wait for this other girl to come back?

[Brent]

What's a solid response to a girl saying something like "You're so mean to me" or "You are such an asshole!"

Note: She's pretty much right on both accounts, but still laughs at most everything I say and still talks to me so I'm just looking for something solid to reply with or to do.
I get that a lot, typically, from what I can see, it means that you are doing something right. Keep flirting, I suppose.

[yourfavestoner]

Need a judgment call. I'm the other guy for a girl's relationship and she's probably breaking up with her boyfriend for me. But, she moved back home for the summer and hasn't done the breaking up part yet. Meanwhile, I'm stuck in town alone and waiting. Should I go for it with other girls in the mean-time, or wait for this other girl to come back?

You're going to be faithful and wait for a girl who is cheating already (even if its not on you, she's still showing that it's not a problem for her)? Bad idea.

[mqtirishfan]

You're going to be faithful and wait for a girl who is cheating already (even if its not on you, she's still showing that it's not a problem for her)? Bad idea.

Eh, sort have already been slightly unfaithful to her the night she left to go back downstate.

[The Unseen]

what is sorta

[yourfavestoner]

I think you should mostly forget about her until she's back around.

[molenguinurtle]

what is sorta

He got dome.

[The Unseen]

He got dome.

that was my guess, but just making out can qualify.

[Brent]

once a cheater, always a cheater.

I wouldn't bother with girls like that

[yourfavestoner]

once a cheater, always a cheater.

I wouldn't bother with girls like that

I'm pretty much with this. Especially when it comes to girls.

Girls really aren't that hard to make happy in a relationship. For the most part as long as you're loyal to them and give them attention, they will bend over backwards for you. They're just wired that way. If a girl is a cheater, it's usually because she has a ridiculous need for attention that cannot be fulfilled by one boy, and this isn't a problem that's going to magically go away.

That's just from my experience anyway.

[Brent]

For the most part as long as you're loyal to them and give them attention, they will bend over backwards for you.
Unless they have daddy issues. I find the best girls are ones that arent only children. Something about having a brother/sister tends to make a person better in relationships. Maybe it has to do with growing up and sharing with your siblings or something like that... at least that's been my experience.

[SuperMcgee]

Need a judgment call. I'm the other guy for a girl's relationship and she's probably breaking up with her boyfriend for me. But, she moved back home for the summer and hasn't done the breaking up part yet. Meanwhile, I'm stuck in town alone and waiting. Should I go for it with other girls in the mean-time, or wait for this other girl to come back?

I wouldn't be surprised (from a complete outsider's perspective) if she never even broke up with him. I obviously don't know this girl, but there are a lot of girls who live away from their boyfriends, maybe even talk about breaking up with them or how the boyfriend himself cheats on her, but are completely fine keeping their relationship intact while they do whatever.

Unless they have daddy issues. I find the best girls are ones that arent only children. Something about having a brother/sister tends to make a person better in relationships. Maybe it has to do with growing up and sharing with your siblings or something like that... at least that's been my experience.

I agree with this. I think having a sibling of the opposite sex, especially, can make you much better in a relationship, be you a guy or a girl.

[bsaza2358]

What's a solid response to a girl saying something like "You're so mean to me" or "You are such an asshole!"

Note: She's pretty much right on both accounts, but still laughs at most everything I say and still talks to me so I'm just looking for something solid to reply with or to do.

I would go with "clearly I'm not so bad, or you wouldn't bother hanging out with me..."

[bsaza2358]

Need a judgment call. I'm the other guy for a girl's relationship and she's probably breaking up with her boyfriend for me. But, she moved back home for the summer and hasn't done the breaking up part yet. Meanwhile, I'm stuck in town alone and waiting. Should I go for it with other girls in the mean-time, or wait for this other girl to come back?

The girl isn't yours until she ends it. You're not beholden to her in any way and shouldn't expect her to follow through. Remember, she didn't fulfill her part of her last relationship. There is a pattern of her doing what's best for her and not her partner. I would keep things casual.

[OSUGiants17]

FML. You know the girl I have been asking about? Well I went on facebook today and I see this: "Nicole changed her relationship status from 'Single' to 'In a relationship'". My heart sank. Apparently he asked her out two days ago. This sucks too cause I felt we where getting closer each day since I posted. We talked and joked for a while today before I found out. Good news is tho, the guy is a senior(both me and the girl are sophmores) and will be going to college 5 hours away and the school year ends in less then 2 weeks. So do I keep this friendship going but don't get to attached to get stuck in the friend zone knowing they will become less distant once he goes to school and will most likely cheat on her? Please help.

[molenguinurtle]

I mean you can keep the friendship going, but honestly bruh, with him being older and her being so young, she's gonna be completely wrapped around his finger. It's best you stop worrying about her as anything more than a friend, and get your eyes on someone else. Just my opinion though from my experience.

[BigJohn98]

FML. You know the girl I have been asking about? Well I went on facebook today and I see this: "Nicole changed her relationship status from 'Single' to 'In a relationship'". My heart sank. Apparently he asked her out two days ago. This sucks too cause I felt we where getting closer each day since I posted. We talked and joked for a while today before I found out. Good news is tho, the guy is a senior(both me and the girl are sophmores) and will be going to college 5 hours away and the school year ends in less then 2 weeks. So do I keep this friendship going but don't get to attached to get stuck in the friend zone knowing they will become less distant once he goes to school and will most likely cheat on her? Please help.

Move on. There's plenty more girls out there. No need getting hurt seeing her with some other dude.

[yourfavestoner]

FML. You know the girl I have been asking about? Well I went on facebook today and I see this: "Nicole changed her relationship status from 'Single' to 'In a relationship'". My heart sank. Apparently he asked her out two days ago. This sucks too cause I felt we where getting closer each day since I posted. We talked and joked for a while today before I found out. Good news is tho, the guy is a senior(both me and the girl are sophmores) and will be going to college 5 hours away and the school year ends in less then 2 weeks. So do I keep this friendship going but don't get to attached to get stuck in the friend zone knowing they will become less distant once he goes to school and will most likely cheat on her? Please help.

Time to move on to greener pastures bud. IF she does have any feelings for you, then sticking by her during this time will only prolong a potential breakup between them. You'll be making yourself an intellectual ***** for her - as in she knows you'll be there for emotional support and all that other **** (especially when/if her BF is bad to her) without getting anything back in return except a big hug at the end of the night.

Break things off for awhile and pursue other girls. I'm not saying to completely ignore her. Be cordial and friendly still, but don't go out of your way whatsoever to give her attention. If, in a couple weeks (or after her BF moves - it might take that long depending how much she likes him) she starts asking why you haven't been talking or hanging out, you'll have a better idea how much she's interested.

As of right now, though, I'd say things are effectively dead for awhile. You're not prying a sophomore girl away from a guy that can drive her around, take her places, and is going to be ******* her every day until he leaves for college. It's just not gonna happen.

[OSUGiants17]

I see where you guys are coming from, it just sucks that I was working hard to get with her and just as things start to pick up she gets in a relationship. Hopefully with summer coming up and never actually getting with her it will be easy to get over her and move on.

[BigJohn98]

I see where you guys are coming from, it just sucks that I was working hard to get with her and just as things start to pick up she gets in a relationship. Hopefully with summer coming up and never actually getting with her it will be easy to get over her and move on.

Once you stop seeing her on a regular basis, you'll get over her. Same thing happened to me back in 8th grade. I was CRAZY about this girl. I was in like 4 classes with her. Talked to her all the time at lunch, on AIM, etc. She liked and was dating one of my friends. **** drove me insane. I was so hurt because obviously I felt like I was the one for her, not him.

Then we went on our 8th grade field trip to Universal Studios. Our class was divided up into like 5 groups of 6-7 people and with my luck, those two are in my group. It sucked. It hurt seeing them walking hand and hand and **** like that. Once summer came and I stopped seeing her daily, I dropped all feelings.

[Brent]

and is going to be ******* her every day until he leaves for college.
man, I wish I could have had that.

[yourfavestoner]

man, I wish I could have had that.

It's the only reason I got in a relationship halfway through my senior year. Really, senior year I think is a great time to get into a relationship. You're older so it's not hard at all to pull a hot younger chick (especially if you drive and she doesn't). It'll help you figure out who you're developing into as a person and what you like/don't like in the opposite sex. And you get laid consistently - which is a problem for ANY high school kid no matter how good looking you may be or how much game you have.

Suffice to say, though, the relationship ended not long after I moved to San Diego.

[BigJohn98]

When you guys are talking to a girl, what do you guys usually ask to get to know them better? I'm talking with this girl and I feel like I've run out of questions.

[CJSchneider]

What are you going to want for breakfast tomorrow morning?

[thefalconer]

how do i get my girlfriend to stop holding out without making myself seem like a horny mchorn horn?

[VoteLynnSwan]

When you guys are talking to a girl, what do you guys usually ask to get to know them better? I'm talking with this girl and I feel like I've run out of questions.

ask her about random celebrities you either love/hate to gauge her reaction. Then dump her if she says she likes Lady Gaga.

[StickSkills]

That girl messaged me today and was talking to me while I was watching The Mystery Team. Anyways, she was like, " i haven't had any deep conversations with you lately" and ish like that and then was saying how she wanted to hang out again soon and then was reminding me that we have that movie list to watch together. I figured with her boyfriend being back in town that she wouldn't need her cuddle b**** anymore.

So do I keep on slowing conversation down and slowly fade away guys?

[Brent]

So do I keep on slowing conversation down and slowly fade away guys?
Yes. When she calls again, talk but say that you are in the middle of something and you can't talk for long, or don't answer but reply with a short text essentially saying the same thing. Your conversing for that day should end there. Eventually, just stop answering her garbage. She'll figure it out eventually.

[The Unseen]

ask her about random celebrities you either love/hate to gauge her reaction. Then dump her if she says she likes Lady Gaga.

and if she says Megan Fox, be sure to check her thumbs

[CJSchneider]

So do I keep on slowing conversation down and slowly fade away guys?

You did tap this already, correct? Always tap before you fade.

[bsaza2358]

FML. You know the girl I have been asking about? Well I went on facebook today and I see this: "Nicole changed her relationship status from 'Single' to 'In a relationship'". My heart sank. Apparently he asked her out two days ago. This sucks too cause I felt we where getting closer each day since I posted. We talked and joked for a while today before I found out. Good news is tho, the guy is a senior(both me and the girl are sophmores) and will be going to college 5 hours away and the school year ends in less then 2 weeks. So do I keep this friendship going but don't get to attached to get stuck in the friend zone knowing they will become less distant once he goes to school and will most likely cheat on her? Please help.

This is a pretty clear pattern, dude. You are going after girls who are unavailable for a reason. You knew she was dating someone, and you tried to worm your way in there. If her guy found out, he might beat the crap out of you, and I wouldn’t blame him. Find a single girl, see if you can talk to her in a fun and flirt way (like you have been practicing with the last 2 girls), then ask her out.

I believe that subconsciously, you are petrified of getting rejected, so you are protecting yourself by going after a girl who is kind of available, but probably isn’t. The common denominator here is you. You are picking the wrong girls. You are not making your move soon enough. You have some issues that you have to work out. The great news is that you’re 16. Everyone gets crushed like this. I made the same mistake at least twice in HS and once in college. You have time to figure things out.

There is nothing to be scared of. However, you have to let go pronto. Let her come to you. Don’t be so available. Start finding someone who is new and available.

[bsaza2358]

how do i get my girlfriend to stop holding out without making myself seem like a horny mchorn horn?

This is a tougher one. Fact is that girls are emotional beings in addition to being sexual beings. Men are rational and sexual beings. If your girl has been burned in the past, she is going to be reticent to give it up. If she is a virgin, it’s going to be a while. The key is to make her comfortable. Putting pressure in any way isn’t going to get her to give it up if she hasn’t already. If you pressure her before she’s ready, and she gives in, she’s going to feel guilty and hate you.

You need to convince her that it’s her idea to have sex. You need to be attentive and fun without pushing her for sex. She is probably just as horny, but she has a mental block about it. Your job is to build her trust and make her want it and to ask you for it. If you put the time in, she will come along at her own pace.

Frankly, though,if you’re just looking for sex, don’t put yourself in a relationship. The good girls aren’t going to give it up easily. If you want a good girl, be prepared to work for it.

[OSUGiants17]

This is a pretty clear pattern, dude. You are going after girls who are unavailable for a reason. You knew she was dating someone, and you tried to worm your way in there. If her guy found out, he might beat the crap out of you, and I wouldn’t blame him. Find a single girl, see if you can talk to her in a fun and flirt way (like you have been practicing with the last 2 girls), then ask her out.

I believe that subconsciously, you are petrified of getting rejected, so you are protecting yourself by going after a girl who is kind of available, but probably isn’t. The common denominator here is you. You are picking the wrong girls. You are not making your move soon enough. You have some issues that you have to work out. The great news is that you’re 16. Everyone gets crushed like this. I made the same mistake at least twice in HS and once in college. You have time to figure things out.

There is nothing to be scared of. However, you have to let go pronto. Let her come to you. Don’t be so available. Start finding someone who is new and available.
I didnt actually know this one was in a relationship til yesterday and that was two weeks after I asked for advice and started to flirt. I tried to avoid her today, but she approached me today in one of the classes to joke around with me, I tried not to show interest but I didnt wanna be a complete asshole so I just talked for a little then said I had to get back to work. If she does the same thing tomorow, she has gotta have some interest. Whatever, summer is almost here and it shouldnt be hard to forget her. If I havent completely forgotten by next year and she is single again I might try, but only under thos circumstances.

[yourfavestoner]

I didnt actually know this one was in a relationship til yesterday and that was two weeks after I asked for advice and started to flirt. I tried to avoid her today, but she approached me today in one of the classes to joke around with me, I tried not to show interest but I didnt wanna be a complete asshole so I just talked for a little then said I had to get back to work. If she does the same thing tomorow, she has gotta have some interest. Whatever, summer is almost here and it shouldnt be hard to forget her. If I havent completely forgotten by next year and she is single again I might try, but only under thos circumstances.

Negative. A need for attention does not equal interest.

[OSUGiants17]

Huh? I am confused now. When I asked questions earlier you guys said stay away and if she really does have some interest she will come to you.

[CC.SD]

Negative. A need for attention does not equal interest.

This is oh so true.

[molenguinurtle]

Huh? I am confused now. When I asked questions earlier you guys said stay away and if she really does have some interest she will come to you.

If you had applied ladder theory to this situation it would make sense. She wants you to be her intellectual *****. She's in a relationship bruh. Let it go. She does not want you. Her talking to you in class or whatever does not equal wanting you. At all.

[yourfavestoner]

Huh? I am confused now. When I asked questions earlier you guys said stay away and if she really does have some interest she will come to you.

That's because you don't understand the difference between someone who is interested and somebody who just wants/needs attention. She's not going to just magically stop talking to you just because she has a bf now. I dunno how to make this sound nice, but you're either
a) solidly in the "friend" zone
or
b) she likes the attention you give her more than she likes you

Time to move on until they break up. It's a high school relationship and he's moving away to college. They will. Unless she's stupid enough to fall for the "long-distance relationship" thing. If that happens avoid this girl at all costs, because you'll end up her intellectual *****/cuddle ***** while he's screwing different girls during the week and still getting her on the weekend. Meanwhile you're left playing Dr. Phil for her and getting a hug and a kiss on the cheek at the end of the day.

[Vikes99ej]

This is what happens when you don't act right away! I should know.

[bsaza2358]

You guys have pretty much said what I was going to say. Well done, fellas!

[Vikes99ej]

From what I've heard, waiting and delaying is the worst thing you can do as a single man looking for a girl.

[Brent]

waiting and delaying
Yes. Step up or step away.

OSU, if you share a class, don't bother saying hello or any of that **** unless she approaches you. Then use your tactic of playing nice for a few seconds before pulling the "I'm busy" line. I like that tactic because you are indirectly saying that whatever you are busy with is more important to you than her. So, it would work better if you were talking to another girl, now that I think about it. Give the attention you normally would give her to another girl (ONE WHO IS SINGLE, even if she is uglier than the other girl) and she'll be jealous. That way you are talking to a single girl and making the other jealous for using you as an IW.

[OSUGiants17]

K, thanks for all the help guys. I get it now and I'm am 110% ready to move on

[yourfavestoner]

So this girl that I'm semi-interested in (first one in awhile) slapped me last Friday and punched me in the jaw last night. I think she likes me.

Hot. What did you do to precipitate the striking?

Well, she's got a guy that she's "seeing." I don't think of that as any more than a speedbump on my way to the finish line, but this guy is a douche on top of it. And he was with her at the place we were at Friday night. Everyone was really drunk, and she was being super flirty with me all night so I guess I tried to hook up with her twice right in front of him. That initiated the slaps.

Last night we were all at a bar. Somebody in our party dipped out on the tab. She says: "I bet it was you that didn't pay, d1ck."
"**** you, b1tch. I paid. My card is right there, so give it back to me."
"Don't call me b1tch, you ******* d1ck."
"Why not b1tch? You're the one who keeps calling me d1ck and accused me of not paying for a bill that I very clearly paid for?"
"Why not? You wanna ******* see why not?"
"Yeah b1tch. I'd like to see why not."
And then she socked me in the face in the middle of the bar.

She's a feisty redhead, and I've always been a sucker for those.
I actually think she might like you. Crazy as it sounds.

I think so too. I don't think I'd attract that much attention from her (even if it's negative attention) if she didn't. I'm pretty much just waiting for the chump to get dumped, but that shouldn't take too long anyways. This guy is notorious for pulling really hot girls and then getting dumped by them because they end up thinking he's *** or really annoying or both.

Well, I would think that when it finally goes down, it's going to be crazy aggressive. Back scratched and everything. Probably pretty impromptu as well. I'm not sure how you can necessarily push the angle, but wait out the other dude and pounce when he dumps her.

Normally I'd never pursue another man's woman, but this guy was a notorious Rudy Cool. Like I predicted, they broke up like two weeks later.

Over a year later, and we're still going on strong. :)

[YAYareaRB]

It's always the pretty ones that punch the hardest. I know from experience.

[yourfavestoner]

I still give her **** for it. All the time.

[YAYareaRB]

I still give her **** for it. All the time.

That's cool. I ended up having a kid with the girl who punched me the hardest. We're still together.

Kids.. lesson from the day is.. go after the girl that can kick your ass.

[thefalconer]

This is a tougher one. Fact is that girls are emotional beings in addition to being sexual beings. Men are rational and sexual beings. If your girl has been burned in the past, she is going to be reticent to give it up. If she is a virgin, it’s going to be a while. The key is to make her comfortable. Putting pressure in any way isn’t going to get her to give it up if she hasn’t already. If you pressure her before she’s ready, and she gives in, she’s going to feel guilty and hate you.

You need to convince her that it’s her idea to have sex. You need to be attentive and fun without pushing her for sex. She is probably just as horny, but she has a mental block about it. Your job is to build her trust and make her want it and to ask you for it. If you put the time in, she will come along at her own pace.

Frankly, though,if you’re just looking for sex, don’t put yourself in a relationship. The good girls aren’t going to give it up easily. If you want a good girl, be prepared to work for it.

all very true. last relationship i definitely pushed it and she felt guilty and hated me for it. its not that i'm in this relationship for the sex but i wanna get it eventually, sooner rather than later.

seriously though, i think there's validity in the statement that the longer a girl holds out on a guy, the longer the guy stays with the girl. it's all about the chase. for me at least.

[BlindSite]

Humor is the way there, people feel at ease if you can get them to laugh and you never want sex to be at the foreground of conversation unless you're dealing with a huge ****.

[StickSkills]

Drove to the district volleyball game today. Had a girl in the front seat and my friend (guy) and another girl in the back. On the way home we played p-diddle and everyone was naked, except for me since I was driving. However, to make people feel more comfortable, i did take my pants off, and yes, the girl in the front seat definitely checked me out.

Anyways, it was funny because by the time I was close to getting back, the girl in the front seat had her bra and thong on and was like, "lets just drive around some" so I did...

Anyways, I thought it was a funny story.

[fischbowl]

Please give me advice as to how to handle my long distance relationship with my girlfriend 500 miles away. Mind you it's her job to disrobe for various gentlemen all day

[CJSchneider]

When you say disrobe.....what is her job exactly?

[fischbowl]

She's a stripper

[CJSchneider]

Is this relationship making you happy or is it hurting you and/or your ability to be happy?

[fischbowl]

Is this relationship making you happy or is it hurting you and/or your ability to be happy?

Who the **** knows. I just manage to drink myself into a stupor regardless.

We talk everyday, I just miss being her. The thought of her crowds and frankly plagues my mind everyday, to the point where it is a distraction.

I don't want to necessarily say that I'm unhappy

[Brent]

Please give me advice as to how to handle my long distance relationship with my girlfriend 500 miles away. Mind you it's her job to disrobe for various gentlemen all day
wait wait wait, so I guess this means that stripper you were all about ended up with you? that is awesome.

[CJSchneider]

Well I won't lie to you. Saying I dated a stripper is one of those items I will never get to scratch off my "To Do" list and although I'm a bit jealous of you for it (in a good way of course) the answer to that question is paramount. Does either fact that she is 500 miles away and that she is a stripper bother you?

[fischbowl]

wait wait wait, so I guess this means that stripper you were all about ended up with you? that is awesome.

Yes, even through all the travails and stumbles in the somewhat courtship, we're together. She's amazing, truly, I've never felt anything for anyone like I've felt for her.

Well I won't lie to you. Saying I dated a stripper is one of those items I will never get to scratch off my "To Do" list and although I'm a bit jealous of you for it (in a good way of course) the answer to that question is paramount. Does either fact that she is 500 miles away and that she is a stripper bother you?

I guess the more bothersome of the two would be the fact that she is so far away. She's up in Niagara Falls and I'm down here in New York, and the fact that I rarely see her is troublesome. I've learned to cope with her profession, I realize her business is just flattery anyways.

[CJSchneider]

I guess the more bothersome of the two would be the fact that she is so far away.

Have you expressed this to her and if so, how did she respond?

[SuperMcgee]

If me taking frequent trips to Lundy Lane can be at all helpful, just let me know.

[fischbowl]

Have you expressed this to her and if so, how did she respond?

I haven't broached the subject quite yet, I'll be back home in a week and seeing her, so maybe then.

If me taking frequent trips to Lundy Lane can be at all helpful, just let me know.

McGee, as my Queen City brethren and internet comandante, your help is much appreciated, however I'll pass for now

[StickSkills]

Ok, so I've found this girl that is single... yet she went through a really tough break up with this guy a little over a year ago and is now basically afraid of relationships. (She's plain out said that before). Thoughts? Don't even try, or worth trying?

[prock]

Ok, so I've found this girl that is single... yet she went through a really tough break up with this guy a little over a year ago and is now basically afraid of relationships. (She's plain out said that before). Thoughts? Don't even try, or worth trying?

I find anything is worth trying because girls make no sense ever, so when you finally think you got them nailed down, they will do something completely ****** up. So logic tells you not to try, but she is still a woman so it is definitely worth trying. I know the type of girl you are talking about, and that girl never worked out for me, but good luck.

[Brent]

afraid of relationships
no commitment, no problem

[bsaza2358]

Ok, so I've found this girl that is single... yet she went through a really tough break up with this guy a little over a year ago and is now basically afraid of relationships. (She's plain out said that before). Thoughts? Don't even try, or worth trying?

Is she afraid of relationships or afraid of commitment or afraid of dudes? All of those things have different ways to approach. If she's afraid of relationships/commitment, yet still likes guys, you're in there like swimwear. If she's afraid of dudes, you have to be patient and sensitive and crap. Please expound.

[bsaza2358]

Re: Fisch...

Any relationship, regardless of profession, involves open and honest communication. If you're struggling with the distance at this point, you may need to consider some sort of overall adjustment in the arrangement. You need to really call out what is bothering you. Is it that you don't have control of the situation because of the distance? Is it because you don't see her enough and you miss her? Or is it that you want to end it, and you feel guilty? It could be one of those suggestions or something completely different.

No matter what, you need to figure out why you're not doing well and derive an appropriate solution. That could include you getting over whatever issues you have and just being happy with the present. If you want to hash this out further, I (and the rest) can help you work on how to get your mind straight.

[mellojello]

Yes, even through all the travails and stumbles in the somewhat courtship, we're together. She's amazing, truly, I've never felt anything for anyone like I've felt for her.



I guess the more bothersome of the two would be the fact that she is so far away. She's up in Niagara Falls and I'm down here in New York, and the fact that I rarely see her is troublesome. I've learned to cope with her profession, I realize her business is just flattery anyways.If she's as amazing as you say she is, you need to man up and get a job good enough that she doesn't have to do that, or at least put a plan into motion - if there's a real window of opportunity for the two of you, it won't stay open forever.

If you're simply infatuated with her, date someone on the side.

[mellojello]

Ok, so I've found this girl that is single... yet she went through a really tough break up with this guy a little over a year ago and is now basically afraid of relationships. (She's plain out said that before). Thoughts? Don't even try, or worth trying?The best advice I can give you is, take what the defense gives you.

If this girl is telling you she's afraid of relationships, that means she's not interested in a relationship with YOU.

If there's some girl out there that has expressed interest in you, but may not be everything you want, just date her until someone better comes along. You learn a lot in those relationships where you have emotional control, are treated better, etc. When you're chasing, you just learn bad relationship habits and that ends up weakening yourself.

[Malaka]

Okay so, I haven't needed help in awhile but once again I come here for some much needed advice.

So there's a new girl in my school, well she was new a couple of months ago lol, anyway I didn't talk to her or care for her much at first, as the school year began to end we began talking more and more. Then I asked why she moved here blah blah, and then we started talking about hooking up, not us but in general. Then she started talking about her fantasies and then, I just blurt out that's it give me your number I am taking you out on date this weekend, in a funny/smirking but serious way. With a quick glance to her friend and a smile from her friend she gives me the number. She never said yes or no, just game me the number and I can't exactly remember what happened after, I think too many guys came and I just left and sat somewhere else.

Now we come to my predicament, this incident was yesterday, and it is wednesday now. No, I am not asking if I should text her, and no I haven't yet, she still doesn't have my number. My problem is whether or not she actually does want to go out with me this weekend, strangely enough. I didn't see her today but I see her in class tomorrow, clock is obviously ticking on school only 5 days left.

How can I like know for sure if we are going out this weekend, an odd question, but what could I say or do. 2 of her friends really like me, 1 I have flirted with since the beginning of the year, but I was thinking to just going up to her in lunch talking a little then just confidently mentioning it and make a joke idk... lol, that's all I got. Advice, tips, anything would be appreciated. I am not afraid to lose, but it would be nice to win over this girl haha.

[CJSchneider]

You asked for her number and she gave it to you. The ball is in your court on this one. Be a man and tell her where you are going and what time to be ready.

[Brent]

How can I like know for sure if we are going out this weekend, an odd question, but what could I say or do. 2 of her friends really like me, 1 I have flirted with since the beginning of the year, but I was thinking to just going up to her in lunch talking a little then just confidently mentioning it and make a joke idk... lol, that's all I got. Advice, tips, anything would be appreciated. I am not afraid to lose, but it would be nice to win over this girl haha.
Why do you just talk to her? Call her, ******.

[Malaka]

Why do you just talk to her? Call her, ******.

Lmao I got her number yesterday, calling her just seems weirds the very next day lol. But I like your honesty Brent, maybe I am being scared.

[Brent]

Lmao I got her number yesterday, calling her just seems weirds the very next day lol. But I like your honesty Brent, maybe I am being scared.
or talk to her tomorrow. you are reading way too much into it. now that I think about it, you're actually as young as the kids I teach. with that in mind: it's ******* high school; you should be attempting to **** her and all her friends. while I wouldnt tell a student at my school that, I can tell you that from the perspective of someone who was once in HS.

[Malaka]

or talk to her tomorrow. you are reading way too much into it. now that I think about it, you're actually as young as the kids I teach. with that in mind: it's ******* high school; you should be attempting to **** her and all her friends. while I wouldnt tell a student at my school that, I can tell you that from the perspective of someone who was once in HS.

Very obvious... lol I am simply asking what way to go about it.

[yourfavestoner]

Brent is right dude, you're way overanalyzing this.

Don't ask her if you're still going out this weekend. Tell her where you two are going.

[Malaka]

Brent is right dude, you're way overanalyzing this.

I guess, but I do that with everything lol. Whatever, I'll just talk to her tomorrow, simple as that.

EDIT: Will do YFS.

[fischbowl]

Re: Fisch...

Any relationship, regardless of profession, involves open and honest communication. If you're struggling with the distance at this point, you may need to consider some sort of overall adjustment in the arrangement. You need to really call out what is bothering you. Is it that you don't have control of the situation because of the distance? Is it because you don't see her enough and you miss her? Or is it that you want to end it, and you feel guilty? It could be one of those suggestions or something completely different.

No matter what, you need to figure out why you're not doing well and derive an appropriate solution. That could include you getting over whatever issues you have and just being happy with the present. If you want to hash this out further, I (and the rest) can help you work on how to get your mind straight.

I don't feel as if the distance is hindering my control over whats going on, I just miss hear dearly. Also I have to learn to cope with her job, its still bothersome at this point. To reference a movie, Made, I feel like I'm becoming Jon Favreau's character, jealous boyfriend of a stripper except there is no daughter or punching involved. I see a lot in her, is this love, I don't know? It doesn't help that this is my 2nd relationship, the first being three years ago and purely conjugal.

If she's as amazing as you say she is, you need to man up and get a job good enough that she doesn't have to do that, or at least put a plan into motion - if there's a real window of opportunity for the two of you, it won't stay open forever.

If you're simply infatuated with her, date someone on the side.

Unfortunately, money is tight, so even if this was in the question, I doubt it'd be feasible. I work and am currently working my way up in the industry I love while working on my degree at one of the most expensive schools in the country. I live by myself in New York, with little outside help and I struggle with alcoholism and depression. Perhaps this relationship could provide myself with an opportunity for self-examination. I'd love to take advantage of this window, I realize I have to act fast.

[yourfavestoner]

I don't feel as if the distance is hindering my control over whats going on, I just miss hear dearly. Also I have to learn to cope with her job, its still bothersome at this point. To reference a movie, Made, I feel like I'm becoming Jon Favreau's character, jealous boyfriend of a stripper except there is no daughter or punching involved. I see a lot in her, is this love, I don't know? It doesn't help that this is my 2nd relationship, the first being three years ago and purely conjugal.



Unfortunately, money is tight, so even if this was in the question, I doubt it'd be feasible. I work and am currently working my way up in the industry I love while working on my degree at one of the most expensive schools in the country. I live by myself in New York, with little outside help and I struggle with alcoholism and depression. Perhaps this relationship could provide myself with an opportunity for self-examination. I'd love to take advantage of this window, I realize I have to act fast.

So you're in a long-distance relationship, and the girl whom you're in a long-distance relationship with is a stripper? Why would you even put yourself through that?

[fischbowl]

So you're in a long-distance relationship, and the girl whom you're in a long-distance relationship with is a stripper? Why would you even put yourself through that?

I can't help myself as a naturally tragic being. One would think this is a recipe for disaster, however, I'm optimistic that we could work this out. I'd hate to sound ahead of myself but I really think I love this girl.

[yourfavestoner]

I can't help myself as a naturally tragic being. One would think this is a recipe for disaster, however, I'm optimistic that we could work this out. I'd hate to sound ahead of myself but I really think I love this girl.

Well, as long as you know that the odds are stacked against you on this turning into anything other than a complete disaster. And I think that you know that, but you're predisposed to a self-destructive mindset so I'm not sure there's anything anybody on here can do to help you.

Knowing as little as I do about your situation, I don't think you love her. I think you're in love with the idea of her and things succeeding against all odds. All I can say is that you're likely just going to end up hurting yourself.

Don't worry, be happy. **** bitches, get money.

[bsaza2358]

I actually think that he's in love with the idea of saving her from whatever because it helps distract himself from dealing with his own problems. Fisch admitted issues with alcohol and depression. It appears he's trying to use the idea of this relationship as an excuse to be depressed, which then enables his alcohol use.

Fisch, you really have to take the time to understand why you're in this situation. You have the power to control all of this, but you need to really process your own issues. The relationship is a symptom of yourself, not the cause of your problems.

[mellojello]

I see a lot in her, is this love, I don't know? It doesn't help that this is my 2nd relationship, the first being three years ago and purely conjugal.

Unfortunately, money is tight, so even if this was in the question, I doubt it'd be feasible. I work and am currently working my way up in the industry I love while working on my degree at one of the most expensive schools in the country. I live by myself in New York, with little outside help and I struggle with alcoholism and depression. Perhaps this relationship could provide myself with an opportunity for self-examination. I'd love to take advantage of this window, I realize I have to act fast.First, I have no doubt your feelings are genuine. Love though, is when you're feeling what you're feeling and the other person is feeling the same thing. It's reciprocal and both of you see a lot in each other. When one person has the feelings you describe and it is not reciprocated, it's called something else, but it's not called love.

As far as your struggles, understand that you are not alone. Everybody struggles. Even the guy that is born with a silver spoon in his mouth is the same guy that blows his own head off with a silver bullet. When I went to Cal, I too felt the weight of the world on my shoulders, no longer being the top of my class, being at such a large school, and being surrounded by so many that seemed to transition so much better than myself. And I didn't have the financial pressure as my parents were supporting me. I was depressed probably a good 5 - 6 years even after college.

I had an experience with being infatuated with a stripper, someone I dated briefly. Fortunately, I was able to snoop through one of her diaries to find out that she was making 10k to 15k per month, cash. While I know that she wasn't your typical stripper (she's a 9 out of 10), I've never looked at those girls the same way. Basically understand that these girls don't need to be saved. It's messed up, but working in that environment really jades the way they look at men.

My best advice is to keep going, keep moving forward, even if it is very slowly. I'm not talking about the girl, I'm talking about your career and your education. If she's the one for you, then she'll recognize the value of what you're doing, what you're trying to accomplish - it's an admirable path that not everyone can or will pursue. In the meantime though, focus on your own priorities. Alcoholism and depression, those problems slowly go away as you begin actualizing the life you envision for yourself, but if you have high expectations for yourself, it can take time.

Good luck bud.

[fischbowl]

I'd like to thank you all for your input. I find them all to be excellent and valid points and obviously I have a lot of thinking to do over the next few days. I was supposed to go home and see her this week but those plans got ****** and I believe this is among the reasons why she has been on the forefront of my mind this week.

[ShutDwn]

Ok, so I've found this girl that is single... yet she went through a really tough break up with this guy a little over a year ago and is now basically afraid of relationships. (She's plain out said that before). Thoughts? Don't even try, or worth trying?

A year ago? I mean I don't know the details but I went through something similar only I met her within a week of her breakup and she told me from the beggining she thinks relationships only end badly. It can work out, but only if you don't invest yourself in it. She doesn't trust, which means you could be the best to her and she can view it as making you a bigger threat.

She'll probably be down for the physical but when make or break comes I have to think most (in that situation) break it off.

[nepg]

I just read OSUGiants17's saga. Classic! Man, that was good times.

You need to read all of your posts and see exactly what not to do, man. Relationships are not forged by being good classmates.

Also, it seems like you were considered an afterthought...which makes a lot of the things you did seem borderline creeper. Rule #1: Don't be a creeper.

[Brent]

rule two, dont use the word 'creeper'

[BuckeyeDan17]

Dude, my ex just asked me if I wanted to have casual sex until we start screwing other people, how sweet is that?!?!

Or maybe it's not, think it's a bad idea?

[princefielder28]

Dude, my ex just asked me if I wanted to have casual sex until we start screwing other people, how sweet is that?!?!

Or maybe it's not, think it's a bad idea?

ummmm go for it!

[BuckeyeDan17]

Yeah the thing is, I already am 'seeing' a new jewish chick I met a few days ago. Here's the thing, I don't miss my ex, just her sex. I'm afraid that if we starting having sex, it's going to play with her emotions and I don't want to be mean to her about it or anything or hurt her feelings.

Not sure EXACTLY how to handle this. Def a good dilemma regardless though, lol

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Who gives a **** about her feelings?

[BuckeyeDan17]

And here I thought all along I was the only insensative person on this board, that's a huge relief. I'm going to keep screwing the jewish chick for now and I will go ahead and do my ex. I'm only doing it cause I have no more attachments to her.

Boom baby.

Sorry for my rants guys, should I stop with them since I'm not actually in a relationship?

Also, I need to share this, I have never been so shocked in my life.

I'm foreplaying with this girl I met at a small get together, I didn't sense any interest from her than entire night, but whatever right?

Anyway, I undo her belt, take off her pants, start motioning my hand towards the dungeon and she says this, verbatim: "Finger me like you wanna **** me *****"

Thoughts? hahahaha

[Brent]

And here I thought all along I was the only insensative person on this board, that's a huge relief.
That's rather gullible of you.

Anyway, I undo her belt, take off her pants, start motioning my hand towards the dungeon and she says this, verbatim: "Finger me like you wanna **** me *****"
If that is shocking to you, then your sexual encounters are rather tame.

[BuckeyeDan17]

So, a girl says that to you when you had only met her a couple hours ago, and you're not the least bit surprised?

So because me saying this surprised me, it's fair to assume all of my sexual encounters are dull? Want to elaborate on that or should I just not pay any attention next time?

[Brent]

So, a girl says that to you when you had only met her a couple hours ago, and you're not the least bit surprised?
No, people say crap like that when they are down to ****.

So because me saying this surprised me, it's fair to assume all of my sexual encounters are dull? Want to elaborate on that or should I just not pay any attention next time?
No, I'm just joking with you (sadly, there is no sarcasm font). You seem defensive.

[BuckeyeDan17]

Sorry if you sensed hostility, I didn't mean to come off like that. And I am sorry I seemed like I was being defensive, these were not my intentions nor was I offended or anything, because I shouldn't have been, lol.

Anyway, given her behavior and attractiveness, (proper, mature, kinda shy and quiet) I no way foresaw it. And to hear that come out of her mouth, with a straight face, was just something else to me. In retrospect, I don't think it's that big of a deal but you gotta see where I'm coming from in the context of the situation. It was really hard not to laugh.

[yourfavestoner]

Dude, my ex just asked me if I wanted to have casual sex until we start screwing other people, how sweet is that?!?!

Or maybe it's not, think it's a bad idea?

She wants to get back with you and is going to try to lure you into it with sex. At this point, you aren't together, and her feelings aren't your problem. Once she tries to make them your problem, you tell her what's up and cut her loose. Do not, do not, do not get emotionally invested in this chick again. Like I said, as soon as she starts acting like a ******** girl (because she will) you bounce.

Keep your options open and don't get involved seriously with a girl. You're not at a place in your life where you need to be tying yourself down to a specific girl's needs. Also, if you do start getting seriously with a girl, your ex will likely try to sabotage it, and that's not a situation that you're going to want to deal with. At all.

[BuckeyeDan17]

I was hoping you would weigh in on this stoner. Here's the thing, she says she can't handle the stress of a relationship right now ( which is what, 99 percent of the time?) which is fine, I don't care. But her life really isn't going that well right now quick hits: Her mom frequently has new bruises since she has been seeing her new bf, her grandma who pretty much raised her just had a heart attack, etc.

Anyway, I sort of believe her. While I agree with you stoner, what about this..

Could she just be horny, and since we're on good terms, she figures it might as well be me so she won't feel slutty for ******* a random person just for a quick fix? I feel like it's almost guaranteed she's going to get emotional. I'm afraid of her telling me she loves me, because I'm not going to say it back.

And yeah, her feelings aren't my ******* problem anymore, I just want to scream that at her.. But, I don't have the balls yet I guess. Jesus why do I analyze this crap so much?

Just say the words guys and I won't talk about this crap anymore, I just like your guys' insight.

[CJSchneider]

I've been in a situation where the girl feels I am the only stable part of her life. I can tell you from experience, if you aren't in this for the long haul, get out fast.

[TitanHope]

Dude, my ex just asked me if I wanted to have casual sex until we start screwing other people, how sweet is that?!?!

Or maybe it's not, think it's a bad idea?

Horrible idea. There's no such thing as "casual sex" with someone you've just had a previous romantic relationship with, IMO. You may be able to take the relationship for what it's worth, but I doubt she will. Take YFS's advice.

Also, this chick sounds damaged.

[BuckeyeDan17]

How's that Titan? With what I described? That's just the tip of iceberg man.

The more I contemplate, the more I ask myself why I ever bothered. But I don't regret out relationship, never have, never will. Maybe I ought to tell her that I'm talking to two girls right now and then she will really back off..since well, I am. I don't know.

As for becoming emotionally attached again, that's out of the question because it simply will not happen. She's a totally different story though.

[TitanHope]

She comes from a broken home, is asking for casual sex with a guy who just dumped her ass, and seems emotionally unstable and possibly depressed. She's not wanting just sex to help her rub one out whenever she gets randy. She wants sex because it's a way to be close to you. She must desire you as a figure in her life, for whatever emotional reason whether it's a need for attention, desire for an escape from her home problems, or whatever, and using sex, which is hard for a guy to turn down from a girl, is her way to get her foot back in the door to your life.

If you allow her to get her foot in, then she'll try to then work her knee in. Then work her arm in. And soon enough, she'll want to walk through completely. That is unless another guy replaces the hole she's trying to fill with you (Heyo!).

You see, it's not about your intentions or your feelings. You understand your stance. What you can't control are her feelings, which is the key because she's the one proposing this. If you knowingly see all of this as the "in" she's wanting and still agree to screw her, then that's just cruel because it'll be near torture in her mind. Plus it's stupid, seeing as the only benefit in this is the sex, which you can get else where. Rewards don't outweigh the risk at all.

[Brent]

the relationship ended for a reason, I would stay away.

[BuckeyeDan17]

Well she doesn't live at home, we both go to IU together. Besides the point though. She's been diagnosed a manic depressant, was on lexapro the first two weeks I dated her, etc. Jesus Christ dude why does I ALWAYS stumble across the ones that are bonkers??

She's at her home town now, but she wants to come today to see me..

And here I thought she has no intention of getting back together, but ****, she's driving 40 minutes just to come **** me? no way. Also, I think she's trying to keep me from seeing other girls (which simply will not happen).

**** SHE'S TRYING TO BAIT ME IN lol.

I'm going to tell her to stay in that trash producing town of hers.

You're right Titan, she is damaged, and you don't even know the half of it with her. My god. I gave the girl who works at my apartment complex's leasing office my number, and surprisingly, she's been hitting me up and the first one said "hey sexy." Boom. There's the other jewish girl I mentioned..So I have options, but why the hell am I wasting my time talking to the ex?! Why haven't I brushed her off?! ****

[JF4]

Without reading much into this. I say keep banging her.

**** why not if you like it as much as you say. I mean as long as you're prepared to deal with her wanting to cut you're balls off when she finds out that all you care about is the sex. As long as you're comfortable with what you're doing and are not willing to get attached again then banging her is the only situation that will maximize your pleasure for the longest period of time. Isnt that what we all want anyways.

So just maximize pleasure till it blows up in your face then be prepared to file a restraining order and everything will turn out gravy.

[CJSchneider]

...She's been diagnosed a manic depressant, was on lexapro the first two weeks I dated her, etc.


That first part really should be enough for you to make a decision with, but I must admit, I really want to know what "etc" entails.



So just maximize pleasure till it blows up in your face then be prepared to file a restraining order and everything will turn out gravy.

This is clearly the "thinking with your dick" answer. I'm not knocking it and by no means am I above it, but just so you know, it has a tendency to end with broken windows and slashed tires.



In all honesty, it's probably the course I would take.




That may or may not be helpful.

[Brent]

In all honesty, it's probably the course I would take.
That's the sociopath in you talking.

[CJSchneider]

Once upon a time, I was one to live dangerously.

[TitanHope]

It's all fun and games until she lops off your dick and you have to spend half an hour looking for it on the side of the interstate.

[Brent]

It's all fun and games until she lops off your dick and you have to spend half an hour looking for it on the side of the interstate.
but then you get to do porn later, purely because people know who you are.

[CJSchneider]

If Screech from Saved by the Bell can do porn, clearly there is a route to the porn industry that involves not risking my genitalia.

[BigDawg819]

If Screech from Saved by the Bell can do porn, clearly there is a route to the porn industry that involves not risking my genitalia.

He learned from Zack and Slater, so he obviously had inside knowledge