Relationship Advice Thread

[yourfavestoner]

I really just decided to do it out of the blue. It is our last semester in school and I am working 20 hours and taking 19 credits, so I will be busy this semester and might get frustrated at times. I really wanted to do something that would show that even though I have a lot of work on my plate, I will always put her in front of everything else. I also bought her a dozen white roses today.

And there is no order to them, but I will put the more memorable and special memories in the top-10.

this just made me sick to my stomach.

[bsaza2358]

As a joke: Turtle, did you also hide your testicles for her to find? hahahahaha

[someone447]

this just made me sick to my stomach.

Seconded. Too much dude, too much. Maybe as a marriage proposal, even then...

[Turtlepower]

Well, I'm happy with the way my life is and I love her, so I really don't care about my appearance.

[bsaza2358]

Hey, as long as she throws you a snarlin for being so thoughtful, it's all good. That one should be good for breakfast in bed with a happy ending.

[drowe]

Hey, as long as she throws you a snarlin for being so thoughtful, it's all good. That one should be good for breakfast in bed with a happy ending.

ok, i'll bite...what is a snarlin? sounds like a blumpkin with teeth.

[P-L]

ok, i'll bite...what is a snarlin? sounds like a blumpkin with teeth.
It's a b.j.

[bsaza2358]

ok, i'll bite...what is a snarlin? sounds like a blumpkin with teeth.

I snarlin is what you hope your daughter never ever does. ;)

[tjsunstein]

It's a b.j.

What's a b.j.?

[Xiomera]

What's a b.j.?

Raji. B.J. Raji.

Duh http://draftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif

[someone447]

Well, I'm happy with the way my life is and I love her, so I really don't care about my appearance.

Appearances is only part of it. But I'm a jaded asshole, so take it for what its worth.

[dabears10]

The only thing about doing something with a lot of thought, is that you have set a standard. That standard would be hard for some one like me to live up to.

[Brent]

The only thing about doing something with a lot of thought, is that you have set a standard. That standard would be hard for some one like me to live up to.
That's why you don't pull that **** out at the beginning of a relationship. Keep that in cache in case you screw up something.

[drowe]

That's why you don't pull that **** out at the beginning of a relationship. Keep that in cache in case you screw up something.

no kidding. PLUS, now that you said you'll always put her first, you have this conversation to look forward to:

you: sooo, i'm gonna watch football.
her: but.......i wanna spend some quality time with you.
you: yeah, totally. later. but, big game. kinda want to watch it.
her: remember when you said you'd always put me first? i guess that was a lie.

[Zyro_1014]

no kidding. PLUS, now that you said you'll always put her first, you have this conversation to look forward to:

you: sooo, i'm gonna watch football.
her: but.......i wanna spend some quality time with you.
you: yeah, totally. later. but, big game. kinda want to watch it.
her: remember when you said you'd always put me first? i guess that was a lie.

yeah ive had that one before....

**** my life....

[Sniper]

yeah ive had that one before....

**** my life....

So annoying. And mine always ******* knows how to pick the biggest games too.

[Zyro_1014]

So annoying. And mine always ******* knows how to pick the biggest games too.

yeah last year my gf tried to pull that **** on new years day during the rose bowl.

are you kidding me woman?

[Sniper]

yeah last year my gf tried to pull that **** on new years day during the rose bowl.

are you kidding me woman?

My girlfriend got mad at me because she asked me to go sledding 3 minutes before the NFC title game and I said no. This was after I warned her after the Eagles beat the Giants that I wasn't doing **** besides watching the game as of 3 p.m on Sunday.

[Zyro_1014]

My girlfriend got mad at me because she asked me to go sledding 3 minutes before the NFC title game and I said no. This was after I warned her after the Eagles beat the Giants that I wasn't doing **** besides watching the game as of 3 p.m on Sunday.

wow that girl has some guts lol.

how old are you/her?

[tjsunstein]

Raji. B.J. Raji.

Duh http://draftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif

So you get B.J. Raji for making little love notes to your girlfriend and hiding them around the house? Luckkkyyy

[Zyro_1014]

So you get B.J. Raji for making little love notes to your girlfriend and hiding them around the house? Luckkkyyy

B.J. Rajis are beautiful things....

[Sniper]

wow that girl has some guts lol.

how old are you/her?

We're both 21.

[BRAVEHEART]

If only it was that easy to get Bj Raji. :(

[Zyro_1014]

We're both 21.

a 21 year old girl should know better than that! lol

girls these days!

[Sniper]

a 21 year old girl should know better than that! lol

girls these days!

Been dating for over 5 years now. She still thinks she can get away with throwing hissy fits when I don't give her what she wants. ;)

[Zyro_1014]

Been dating for over 5 years now. She still thinks she can get away with throwing hissy fits when I don't give her what she wants. ;)

and youre just keepin your pimp hand strong lol.

jp, but thats impressive man. 5 years. atta boy

[Brent]

Been dating for over 5 years now. She still thinks she can get away with throwing hissy fits when I don't give her what she wants. ;)
Wow, when you are proposing?

[Sniper]

Wow, when you are proposing?

More than likely after I graduate college. I don't want to be engaged for long and I don't want to be married without a decent job first.

[Zyro_1014]

More than likely after I graduate college. I don't want to be engaged for long and I don't want to be married without a decent job first.

thats definately a good plan.

good thinkin my friend.

[Brent]

More than likely after I graduate college. I don't want to be engaged for long and I don't want to be married without a decent job first.
When do you graduate/you're at Michigan, right?

[Sniper]

When do you graduate/you're at Michigan, right?

December of '09, and no. West Chester University of PA. Didn't have the coin to go to UM and my grades (3.1, 1180 SAT) wouldn't have made the cut.

[Zyro_1014]

December of '09, and no. West Chester University of PA. Didn't have the coin to go to UM and my grades (3.1, 1180 SAT) wouldn't have made the cut.

i figured you were a wolverine for sure!

[Sniper]

i figured you were a wolverine for sure!

I probably could have been if I would have done something useful my first two years of HS. My junior + senior GPA hovered around a 3.8.

[BamaFalcon59]

That reminds me, I need straight As this semester or I won't have the required 3.5 GPA to get free tuition to UA or AU. Also need a 30 on the ACT, but that should be easier.

It would not be cool to get like a 3.4 and essentially lose out on a couple dozen grand.

[Sniper]

That reminds me, I need straight As this semester or I won't have the required 3.5 GPA to get free tuition to UA or AU. Also need a 30 on the ACT, but that should be easier.

It would not be cool to get like a 3.4 and essentially lose out on a couple dozen grand.

Which one leads for your services?

[BamaFalcon59]

I probably could have been if I would have done something useful my first two years of HS. My junior + senior GPA hovered around a 3.8.

Sounds like what I'm doing/ did, haha.

No effort plus Spanish wrecked my grade point average for my first two years. I should be over/ around 4.0 for my final two years, though.

[Zyro_1014]

I probably could have been if I would have done something useful my first two years of HS. My junior + senior GPA hovered around a 3.8.

haha same here....i screwed around too much my first 2 years of high school.

[BamaFalcon59]

Which one leads for your services?

IDK, I haven't got into it too much. Junior right now.

But I would say Bama. AU is more of a tech school and that's not really my thing.

[bsaza2358]

Relationship advice, not career discussion... haha. You guys in general have no mojo.

[MetSox17]

My University is FULL of beautiful women. When you're in orientation, the first thing they tell you is that the ratio of men to women is 1:3. It's amazing.

Thing is, i find amazingly beautiful women intimidating. And those are the ones i want.

[giantsfan]

My University is FULL of beautiful women. When you're in orientation, the first thing they tell you is that the ratio of men to women is 1:3. It's amazing.

Thing is, i find amazingly beautiful women intimidating. And those are the ones i want.

That's why you account for the fact that many of them are stupid, really helps with being intimidated if you expect stupidity and enjoy the pleasant surprise that occur when you meet one who isn't stupid, or is stupid but is also inebriated and has daddy issues.

[bsaza2358]

All women are crazy. You'll find that out as you live. There's just a matter of what kind of crazy and how well it suits your personality.

[someone447]

Wow, the misogyny on this thread is astounding.

bsaza, EVERYONE, not just women are crazy. Everyone has those skeletons in their closet. You are right when you say you need to find a crazy that suits your personality, but I would take it farther. You need to find a type of crazy that meshes with your type of crazy.

[bsaza2358]

I would tend to agree. I like to think that I'm relatively lucid, but I'm not "normal". I do all kinds of weird stuff, and I'm pretty one of a kind in terms of how I behave. At the same time, I am very self aware, so I'm not "crazy". I am in control of myself, but I like to have fun. There are plenty of people who have no control or who are not self aware, so they're much more unpredictable and ridiculous.

[bsaza2358]

I don't hate women at all. I love women as a group. They're just ridiculous in terms of their wants, needs, expectations, etc. of themselves and others. The lack of rationale from the women I know is outrageous.

[Brent]

expectations
That's what I have found to be the most difficult to deal with. You cant start out with doing awesome things for her and then not keep it up or top what you did.

[giantsfan]

I don't hate women at all. I love women as a group. They're just ridiculous in terms of their wants, needs, expectations, etc. of themselves and others. The lack of rationale from the women I know is outrageous.

I love women, but I've met very few women who weren't irrational or stupid, I mean some of the smartest girls I've met have been remarkably quick but crazier than bat **** sometimes. The only one who ever proved an exception made me realize men do have a friend ladder, we just never ever use it.

[someone447]

I love women, but I've met very few women who weren't irrational or stupid, I mean some of the smartest girls I've met have been remarkably quick but crazier than bat **** sometimes. The only one who ever proved an exception made me realize men do have a friend ladder, we just never ever use it.

I don't hate women at all. I love women as a group. They're just ridiculous in terms of their wants, needs, expectations, etc. of themselves and others. The lack of rationale from the women I know is outrageous.

Read your posts after the first sentence. Read them carefully. That is incredibly misogynistic. I'll be the first to admit, I am a misogynist. But I recognize that and am working on it. Really examine the way you think about women and the way you interact with them. You will notice you are misogynists too. Even 6 months ago I would have agreed with you 100%. Hell, look at some of my posts in relationship threads on this board.

I've met very few PEOPLE who aren't irrational and stupid. But I am also a misanthrope, so...

[giantsfan]

Read your posts after the first sentence. Read them carefully. That is incredibly misogynistic. I'll be the first to admit, I am a misogynist. But I recognize that and am working on it. Really examine the way you think about women and the way you interact with them. You will notice you are misogynists too. Even 6 months ago I would have agreed with you 100%. Hell, look at some of my posts in relationship threads on this board.

I've met very few PEOPLE who aren't irrational and stupid. But I am also a misanthrope, so...

I disagree, I'm just loathe certain aspects of most people's personalities, this hatred isn't gender specific, I could just as easily rail on men except the conversation was about women.

Plus I was just proposing a technique for Metsox that I know helps with problems of intimidation.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

no kidding. PLUS, now that you said you'll always put her first, you have this conversation to look forward to:

you: sooo, i'm gonna watch football.
her: but.......i wanna spend some quality time with you.
you: yeah, totally. later. but, big game. kinda want to watch it.
her: remember when you said you'd always put me first? i guess that was a lie.


Me: Little attitude I see. You march into that kitchen right now and make me a sandwich.

[Zyro_1014]

Me: Little attitude I see. You march into that kitchen right now and make me a sandwich.

i would envy you...

[bsaza2358]

Read your posts after the first sentence. Read them carefully. That is incredibly misogynistic. I'll be the first to admit, I am a misogynist. But I recognize that and am working on it. Really examine the way you think about women and the way you interact with them. You will notice you are misogynists too. Even 6 months ago I would have agreed with you 100%. Hell, look at some of my posts in relationship threads on this board.

I've met very few PEOPLE who aren't irrational and stupid. But I am also a misanthrope, so...

Oh, it's definitely a love/hate thing. I am tantalized by it, but I am constantly driven crazy by the hypocrisy. That's not to say that I don't act hypocritically, but I am constantly drawn to it, and I'm also annoyed. Perhaps I just haven't really found the woman that makes me perfectly miserable yet...

[someone447]

I disagree, I'm just loathe certain aspects of most people's personalities, this hatred isn't gender specific, I could just as easily rail on men except the conversation was about women.

Plus I was just proposing a technique for Metsox that I know helps with problems of intimidation.

You disagree because it is about you. Are you severely misogynistic? Probably not, but you do have a misogynistic streak in you. I would be willing to bet you are slightly younger than me(maybe around 20?), and that you somewhat recently got out of a bad relationship(or you have a bad relationship with your mom.) Everything you two have been saying is the exact same stuff I would be saying if this was a year ago.

A good barometer of how misogynistic you are: How many friends do you have that are girls. Not girls you are trying to ****, girls that you can call up and say, "Hey do you want to go see a movie?" And there is no expectation or hope of any sexual contact? I'm guessing not many, if at all. This isn't a judgment because i am the same way. But like I said, I've recognized it and I am doing my damnedest to work on it.

[BamaFalcon59]

What does misogynistic mean?

[Brent]

What does misogynistic mean?

www.justfuckinggoogleit.com

[someone447]

What does misogynistic mean?

A dislike or hatred of women.

[Zyro_1014]

A dislike or hatred of women.

oh wow, im definately NOT that lol

[someone447]

oh wow, im definately NOT that lol

It doesn't mean that you dislike every specific woman. It is that you dislike women as a whole. The idea "all women are whores" or "all women are crazy" etc are misogynistic ideas. For a long time I was on an all women are whores kick. So I treated them like whores. It's not a healthy way to be. I'm just finally starting to get over that.

I don't know about you, I haven't seen any posts that jumped out at me.

[619]

Wow, I was like that for the longest time too especially when I was a bit younger ..

I think as men you tend to get over that eventually.

[Zyro_1014]

It doesn't mean that you dislike every specific woman. It is that you dislike women as a whole. The idea "all women are whores" or "all women are crazy" etc are misogynistic ideas. For a long time I was on an all women are whores kick. So I treated them like whores. It's not a healthy way to be. I'm just finally starting to get over that.

I don't know about you, I haven't seen any posts that jumped out at me.

oh hmmm, well sometimes i think all women are crazy...so maybe i am??? lol

[MetSox17]

That's what I have found to be the most difficult to deal with. You cant start out with doing awesome things for her and then not keep it up or top what you did.

This is one of the things that helped kill my last relationship. For fear of my testacles, i will not go into detail on the things i did for her, but after two years, i just didn't feel the need to do those things anymore.

[someone447]

oh hmmm, well sometimes i think all women are crazy...so maybe i am??? lol

I doubt it, I'm guessing you are too young to really be misogynistic. For a lot of people it is after being cheated on or something like that. I can point to the exact place I started to be. It was freshman year of college when my gf of 3 years cheated on me. I made a thread about it a long time ago.

[Brent]

I doubt it, I'm guessing you are too young to really be misogynistic. For a lot of people it is after being cheated on or something like that. I can point to the exact place I started to be. It was freshman year of college when my gf of 3 years cheated on me. I made a thread about it a long time ago.
I remember that thread and yes, I think it's something that comes as you experience some ******** or whatever.

[yourfavestoner]

Read your posts after the first sentence. Read them carefully. That is incredibly misogynistic. I'll be the first to admit, I am a misogynist. But I recognize that and am working on it. Really examine the way you think about women and the way you interact with them. You will notice you are misogynists too. Even 6 months ago I would have agreed with you 100%. Hell, look at some of my posts in relationship threads on this board.

I've met very few PEOPLE who aren't irrational and stupid. But I am also a misanthrope, so...

Misogyny is just a branch of misanthropy anyways. The problem with guys and girls is that they simply cannot relate to each other at all. They're wired to think emotionally and we're wired to think logically. There are exceptions to every rule, as you will definitely find logical girls and guys who are sprung, over-emotional bitches, but for the most part the stereotype is true. In fact, stereotypes wouldn't exist if they weren't true.

[someone447]

I remember that thread and yes, I think it's something that comes as you experience some ******** or whatever.

It's either that or a ****** up mom. I just happy I realized what was going on. I recognized it and decided not to get in relationships until I got it fixed. I tend to walk all over people unless they stand up to me. So no more relationships for me until I get that fixed. No relationship>>>dysfunctional relationships.

[someone447]

Misogyny is just a branch of misanthropy anyways. The problem with guys and girls is that they simply cannot relate to each other at all. They're wired to think emotionally and we're wired to think logically. There are exceptions to every rule, as you will definitely find logical girls and guys who are sprung, over-emotional bitches, but for the most part the stereotype is true. In fact, stereotypes wouldn't exist if they weren't true.

I'm not arguing otherwise, men and women are different. There is no doubt about that. But to say that women can't think logically is incredibly misogynistic. That is essentially what the two of them are saying. I don't think the differences are as pronounced as it would seem, because society pushed men and women different directions.

[Brent]

you will definitely find logical girls
The problem is that they are already in a relationship 9 times out of 10.

[giantsfan]

You disagree because it is about you. Are you severely misogynistic? Probably not, but you do have a misogynistic streak in you. I would be willing to bet you are slightly younger than me(maybe around 20?), and that you somewhat recently got out of a bad relationship(or you have a bad relationship with your mom.) Everything you two have been saying is the exact same stuff I would be saying if this was a year ago.

A good barometer of how misogynistic you are: How many friends do you have that are girls. Not girls you are trying to ****, girls that you can call up and say, "Hey do you want to go see a movie?" And there is no expectation or hope of any sexual contact? I'm guessing not many, if at all. This isn't a judgment because i am the same way. But like I said, I've recognized it and I am doing my damnedest to work on it.

I feel misogyny is too restrictive, I don't just hate women, I hate most humans, regardless of gender, women are just happen to a sub-population of the human race. and hate is too strong a word, there's a lot that annoys and frustrates me that I'm calling hate here but that's not to say there aren't many redeeming qualities that I adore.

I'd have to say there are about 5 girls I'd consider friends with no sexual aspect attached and another 4 that are more acquaintances of the same nature. I will agree that my last relationship definitely qualifies as dysfunctional although that more supported my thoughts than jaded them. Mom's nuckin futs, but that's what happens when an extremely logical woman becomes successful and has t deal with idiots for a long period of time.

[giantsfan]

The problem is that they are already in a relationship 9 times out of 10.

Or are crazy OCD about a few things

[skinzzfan25]

Being in high school, girls are so annoying...

I was talking to this one girl from different school. She was giving me all the signs, flirting etc with me. We went out a few times and I took her to a couple parties. But then whenever I tried to get close with her she would turn me down. Later she was explaining in front of me how we were best friends and stuff. She even asked to bring her ex-boyfriend to my good friends party that we were throwing. I said whatever, accepted that I was in the friend zone and moved on.

So at that party I hooked up with her friend, and now the original girl isn't talking to me. Should I even try to talk to her?

[someone447]

Being in high school, girls are so annoying...

I was talking to this one girl from different school. She was giving me all the signs, flirting etc with me. We went out a few times and I took her to a couple parties. But then whenever I tried to get close with her she would turn me down. Later she was explaining in front of me how we were best friends and stuff. She even asked to bring her ex-boyfriend to my good friends party that we were throwing. I said whatever, accepted that I was in the friend zone and moved on.

So at that party I hooked up with her friend, and now the original girl isn't talking to me. Should I even try to talk to her?

No, girls who play mind games aren't worth it. There are plenty of good ones.

[Zyro_1014]

No, girls who play mind games aren't worth it. There are plenty of good ones.

i agree, it sounds like she kinda played you.

you have no reason to feel bad.

[BamaFalcon59]

www.justfuckinggoogleit.com

It's one of those things that I would be open to knowing but would rather not look it up.

[Brent]

Should I even try to talk to her?
if you hooked up with her, try communication. if you didnt hook up, screw it.

[MetSox17]

if you hooked up with her, try communication. if you didnt hook up, screw it.

He hooked up with the friend of the girl he liked, so the girl he liked is upset.

Tell the girl you liked to go F herself, you don't need to be putting up with that nonsense. Seriously, girls that do stupid $### like that deserve to be treated like crap.

[bsaza2358]

Being in high school, girls are so annoying...

I was talking to this one girl from different school. She was giving me all the signs, flirting etc with me. We went out a few times and I took her to a couple parties. But then whenever I tried to get close with her she would turn me down. Later she was explaining in front of me how we were best friends and stuff. She even asked to bring her ex-boyfriend to my good friends party that we were throwing. I said whatever, accepted that I was in the friend zone and moved on.

So at that party I hooked up with her friend, and now the original girl isn't talking to me. Should I even try to talk to her?

I think the "original" girl likes to play games. She played the game, you got with her friend after you tried multiple times to hit it. She obviously had zero respect for what you were trying to do because she brought her "ex" to the party and shut you down. She should eff off. If she wanted you, she should have taken you when she could. If you hooked up with her friend for revenge, bravo. If you hooked up with her friend because that's what you could get... bravo! This girl really doesn't seem to be your friend at all. At the same time, she is acting jealous because you're not blindly giving her the attention.

If you value her friendship, try to talk to her. If you just want to bang her, don't bother. She doesn't appear to be worth it based on your past results.

[drowe]

It doesn't mean that you dislike every specific woman. It is that you dislike women as a whole.



i love women as a hole.

[bsaza2358]

Including your daughter?

[someone447]

I think the "original" girl likes to play games. She played the game, you got with her friend after you tried multiple times to hit it. She obviously had zero respect for what you were trying to do because she brought her "ex" to the party and shut you down. She should eff off. If she wanted you, she should have taken you when she could. If you hooked up with her friend for revenge, bravo. If you hooked up with her friend because that's what you could get... bravo! This girl really doesn't seem to be your friend at all. At the same time, she is acting jealous because you're not blindly giving her the attention.

If you value her friendship, try to talk to her. If you just want to bang her, don't bother. She doesn't appear to be worth it based on your past results.

Useless to try to deny it now.

The rest of what he said is pretty much true. The only thing I disagree with is the if you value her friendship. She doesn't value the friendship, so you shouldn't either. There is absolutely no reason to keep talking to her. She is a *****, and there is no reason to keep people like that in your life.

[vikes_28]

ok i have a girlfriend who i have been dating for almost 6 months now. I am a senior in high school and she is a junior. I get a senior prom, and she gets a junior and senior prom.

Now...our proms fall on the same night. And she would rather go to her prom. Is it a dick move to tell her that i want to go to my prom rather than hers just because this will be my only senior prom ever AND she gets one HER senior year?

[bsaza2358]

Useless to try to deny it now.

The rest of what he said is pretty much true. The only thing I disagree with is the if you value her friendship. She doesn't value the friendship, so you shouldn't either. There is absolutely no reason to keep talking to her. She is a *****, and there is no reason to keep people like that in your life.

Well, he got something out of it, so that's a plus. I would recommend that he stop chasing her, but if he had any intention of doing so, he wouldn't have asked us about it. I predict that he will still go after her and get shut down.

[bsaza2358]

ok i have a girlfriend who i have been dating for almost 6 months now. I am a senior in high school and she is a junior. I get a senior prom, and she gets a junior and senior prom.

Now...our proms fall on the same night. And she would rather go to her prom. Is it a dick move to tell her that i want to go to my prom rather than hers just because this will be my only senior prom ever AND she gets one HER senior year?

I would propose a compromise where you guys do dinner with her friends, before, then switch to yours and do the after party with your boys. You're the senior, and she gets her senior prom, but you shouldn't be totally insensitive. The school is stupid to schedule both the same night.

[MetSox17]

I would propose a compromise where you guys do dinner with her friends, before, then switch to yours and do the after party with your boys. You're the senior, and she gets her senior prom, but you shouldn't be totally insensitive. The school is stupid to schedule both the same night.

I agree that it's very stupid to schedule both on the same night, but i think if she really likes you and appreciates you, she should understand that you deserve a completely dedicated to you, like she'll have the luxury of doing so next year. I don't think you sacrifice your senior prom just to go to hers.

[bsaza2358]

Also understand that if you were a junior and she was a senior, I'd say that you should go to her prom. Situations reversed, same recommendation.

[someone447]

Well, he got something out of it, so that's a plus. I would recommend that he stop chasing her, but if he had any intention of doing so, he wouldn't have asked us about it. I predict that he will still go after her and get shut down.

That's where we differ. If I am not getting something out of hanging out with a person, I just stop hanging out with them. They aren't worth my time. I will bet anything he keeps trying to go after her, he is in high school after all. High schoolers don't realize that one girl isn't ever special. There is always someone better(same goes for guys, you aren't as special as you think you are.)

[someone447]

I would propose a compromise where you guys do dinner with her friends, before, then switch to yours and do the after party with your boys. You're the senior, and she gets her senior prom, but you shouldn't be totally insensitive. The school is stupid to schedule both the same night.

Excellent advice. I would just add one more thing. Have her tell her friends to meet you and your boys out at whatever afterparty you are going to. I think it is strange that they have separate dances. Our school just had a Junior/Senior Prom. It is a horrible idea to have seperate ones on the same night, especially because so many juniors date seniors.

[bsaza2358]

That's where we differ. If I am not getting something out of hanging out with a person, I just stop hanging out with them. They aren't worth my time. I will bet anything he keeps trying to go after her, he is in high school after all. High schoolers don't realize that one girl isn't ever special. There is always someone better(same goes for guys, you aren't as special as you think you are.)

The something he got was the action from her friend. We are in agreement that he should just not talk to her. As I said before, he will continue to chase her because he's young and stupid.

[bsaza2358]

Excellent advice. I would just add one more thing. Have her tell her friends to meet you and your boys out at whatever afterparty you are going to. I think it is strange that they have separate dances. Our school just had a Junior/Senior Prom. It is a horrible idea to have seperate ones on the same night, especially because so many juniors date seniors.

My senior prom (almost 11 years ago) had a required after party at a local YMCA. We had the place all night with food and games and TV and movies and stuff. There were also huge door prizes like N-64, TV's, and a DVD player. Those were huge deals at the time. It was a ton of fun, but no booze. If there is an after party that doesn't involve that kind of school function, that is great advice.

[someone447]

My senior prom (almost 11 years ago) had a required after party at a local YMCA. We had the place all night with food and games and TV and movies and stuff. There were also huge door prizes like N-64, TV's, and a DVD player. Those were huge deals at the time. It was a ton of fun, but no booze. If there is an after party that doesn't involve that kind of school function, that is great advice.

We only had that after graduation, our Prom we had free reign afterwards.

[kalbears13]

Alright...preliminary question...

What are your views on going after a best friend's ex?

[skinzzfan25]

I think the "original" girl likes to play games. She played the game, you got with her friend after you tried multiple times to hit it. She obviously had zero respect for what you were trying to do because she brought her "ex" to the party and shut you down. She should eff off. If she wanted you, she should have taken you when she could. If you hooked up with her friend for revenge, bravo. If you hooked up with her friend because that's what you could get... bravo! This girl really doesn't seem to be your friend at all. At the same time, she is acting jealous because you're not blindly giving her the attention.

If you value her friendship, try to talk to her. If you just want to bang her, don't bother. She doesn't appear to be worth it based on your past results.

Yeah thanks. I agree with everything you said. Basically when I took the "original girl" home at 5 am (she doesn't have a license, and she's a senior...) I dropped her off and she didn't even give me a hug or show any signs that she gave a damn so I was pissed. Got back to my friends house, found her friend upstairs in the bed that I was in earlier, talked, got some, went to work at 7:30 am hahaha

I'm gonna see both of them tomorrow night at my friend's 18th birthday party. I'm probably not going to go out of my way to talk to either of them, but if anything goes down i'll give an update.

[bsaza2358]

Alright...preliminary question...

What are your views on going after a best friend's ex?

My policy is that I don't recycle girlfriends. If my friend hit it and quit it, I'll consider seconds after a reasonable period of time has passed. If there was an emotional relationship that lasted longer than 6 months, the girl is basically off limits to me. If I were going to pursue something with a best friends' ex, I'd better be damn sure that it's the real thing. I would never just sleep with the girl. It would have to be legit, and I'd ask permission.

[bsaza2358]

Yeah thanks. I agree with everything you said. Basically when I took the "original girl" home at 5 am (she doesn't have a license, and she's a senior...) I dropped her off and she didn't even give me a hug or show any signs that she gave a damn so I was pissed. Got back to my friends house, found her friend upstairs in the bed that I was in earlier, talked, got some, went to work at 7:30 am hahaha

I'm gonna see both of them tomorrow night at my friend's 18th birthday party. I'm probably not going to go out of my way to talk to either of them, but if anything goes down i'll give an update.

Girls have rules about hooking up just like guys do. Friends generally get "dibbs". If the first girl really wanted you, she would have locked you up in the first place. The fact that her friend got with you means that she's not interested. I think you just move on or just keep getting with the friend.

[MetSox17]

Alright...preliminary question...

What are your views on going after a best friend's ex?

Depends what you want her for. If you really and truly like the girl, and she likes you as well, then don't let anything get in your way.

If you just wanna smash it, but she was your good friends girlfriend for a while, and it was serious, it's waaay off limits.

If she's a skank, and your friend tapped it before, then it's at your discretion whether you wanna hit that as well.

It really all depends on how serious her and your friend were, and how much you get along with your friend.

[bsaza2358]

If she was a gf, you have to ask permission, or else he's gonna be really pissed. That could lead to a rift. Bros before hos.

[MetSox17]

If she was a gf, you have to ask permission, or else he's gonna be really pissed. That could lead to a rift. Bros before hos.

It depends how tight they were, really. If i know the guy, like i'll say hi to him if i see him, but we don't hangout, then in that instance i dont care. If it's one of my boys, we chill pretty often, then i'd back off, again depending on how serious they were.

[bsaza2358]

He said "best friend's". I'm going off that.

[MetSox17]

Oh wow, missed that part. Geez, best friends huh.. I don't know about that.

[sweetness34]

Yea best friends girl is off limits, at least for me. I value my friends over girls.

One of my best friends broke up with a girl recently (who is also a close friend of mine) and she is now dating one of his friends, in fact the guy she is dating now gave my buddy a tattoo recently and they party together. It's pretty damn awkward to see those three in the same room.

And I know he's pissed at the guy for making a move on her. There are so many girls out there that going after my best friends ex is just shallow as hell. I don't care how hot and cool she is, no way in hell.

[someone447]

Alright...preliminary question...

What are your views on going after a best friend's ex?

Just ask him... If he is fine with it, go for it. If he isn't then she is off limits. This isn't rocket science. If he is a good friend, he won't mind you asking. But if he says no, you stay the **** away from her. Hell, you don't even talk to her. So many problems can be avoided by just talking like adults.

The only hard and fast rule is if he says it is off limits it is off limits. If a buddy asked me if he could **** one of my exes, I would tell him to knock himself out.

Personally, I don't go after friends exes regardless. I won't even **** a girl my buddy has ******. I just don't like knowing that he was there before me. I don't care about guys I don't know, but not a buddy.

[giantsfan]

i love women as a hole.

as I'm sure we all do...

Alright...preliminary question...

What are your views on going after a best friend's ex?

If it was serious and ended ugly she's off limits and you've gotta talk to your buddy if it was serious at all. Now if she's a skank your buddy doesn't give two shits about anymore tap away. Either way unless she's a skank consult your buddy and get his permission.

[kalbears13]

It depends how tight they were, really. If i know the guy, like i'll say hi to him if i see him, but we don't hangout, then in that instance i dont care. If it's one of my boys, we chill pretty often, then i'd back off, again depending on how serious they were.

Alright, they went out for almost 2 years. As long as I had been friends with him they'd been together. They broke up like 4 months ago. He's been one of those friends who has never let you down and was a "bro". The girl and I didn't really become friends until last year. She was my cheer sister for football. This summer all three of us worked together but me and her worked exclusively together every day for 2 months for like 8 hours a day. Like a month before they broke up we started hanging out just us two, while he was in Australia. He knew so it wasn't like she was cheating. He now goes to school like a 3 hour drive away. I go to school like a 45 minute drive away and come home a lot. She still lives at home. We still hang out whenever I come home.

EDIT: She felt it was a more ugly break up than he did.

[giantsfan]

Alright, they went out for almost 2 years. As long as I had been friends with him they'd been together. They broke up like 4 months ago. He's been one of those friends who has never let you down and was a "bro". The girl and I didn't really become friends until last year. She was my cheer sister for football. This summer all three of us worked together but me and her worked exclusively together every day for 2 months for like 8 hours a day. Like a month before they broke up we started hanging out just us two, while he was in Australia. He knew so it wasn't like she was cheating. He now goes to school like a 3 hour drive away. I go to school like a 45 minute drive away and come home a lot. She still lives at home. We still hang out whenever I come home.

Get permission from your buddy, also did they end ugly? I mean is he/she still pissed at her/him or was it more of a mutual breakup?

[Ward]

If there's nothing shady going on, you should have no trouble telling your bro all about it. I'm not saying you need his approval, but you should fully disclose what's going on. So tell him, then bang her.

[MetSox17]

Alright, they went out for almost 2 years. As long as I had been friends with him they'd been together. They broke up like 4 months ago. He's been one of those friends who has never let you down and was a "bro". The girl and I didn't really become friends until last year. She was my cheer sister for football. This summer all three of us worked together but me and her worked exclusively together every day for 2 months for like 8 hours a day. Like a month before they broke up we started hanging out just us two, while he was in Australia. He knew so it wasn't like she was cheating. He now goes to school like a 3 hour drive away. I go to school like a 45 minute drive away and come home a lot. She still lives at home. We still hang out whenever I come home.

EDIT: She felt it was a more ugly break up than he did.

Well i'll tell you what, if you feel the girl is worth possibly damaging your relationship with your best friend, then i say go ahead. If what you look for her is something serious, and she wants the same (i can't stress enough how important it is for this to be mutual), then i guess you should talk to your friend and let him know that you have serious feelings for her.

If it's just a fling, don't even risk your relationship. Girls come and go.

[CJSchneider]

Never date an ex! Just say no.

[Bucs_Rule]

2 years? Thats really serious. Its really hard for their to be not hurt feelings, the only way I could see it is if he got really bored being around and was glad it ended, very unlikely. Only go out with her if you think she's worth ruining things with your bro. So pretty much no.

[tjsunstein]

Bang her and have a mutual agreement not to tell your friend. I've seen it happen before. Especially with him going to college so far away. It could work.

[bsaza2358]

Bang her and have a mutual agreement not to tell your friend. I've seen it happen before. Especially with him going to college so far away. It could work.

Idiotic. Why lie to your best friend about it? He had a 2 year relationship with this girl, and maybe some sort of relationship after. Just because you've seen it happen doesn't mean that's what he should do.

[Brent]

Never date an ex! Just say no.
Quoted for truth!

[ATLDirtyBirds]

It varies on every situation to me on what I'd do. If this guy is still your best friend, hold off.

[kalbears13]

It's definitely not a hit and quit thing. I don't know if it's mutual yet. If it isn't then the plan of action is obvious. Even when they were together, I considered her probably my next best friend.

[tjsunstein]

Idiotic. Why lie to your best friend about it? He had a 2 year relationship with this girl, and maybe some sort of relationship after. Just because you've seen it happen doesn't mean that's what he should do.

That is correct, just because I have seen it happen does not mean it is the thing to do. It's only done in situations like these because of risking a relationship with your best friend. Especially if he's uncertain if the 'serious' feelings are mutual. If it gets serious thats when you talk to him about it but if its just a 'fling' then you could probably get away with it without damaging your relationship with your best friend.

Edit: I don't recommend messing with your best friends ex at all nor do I recommend you take this route but its another option.

[Zyro_1014]

Ive gone through this situation before, One of my best friends broke up with a girl that he dated for a year and a half. Me and her knew each other pretty well and about 2 months after they broke up, me and her started talking and we hung out a couple times, i started to tell that me and her both liked each other quite a bit and thats when i decided to tell him.

I told him straight up "hey, we like each other and we both thought it would be best that ask what you think about it", and he was fine with it. Idk how this kid is, but just the thought of asking them usually makes them feel a little better.

[kalbears13]

Ive gone through this situation before, One of my best friends broke up with a girl that he dated for a year and a half. Me and her knew each other pretty well and about 2 months after they broke up, me and her started talking and we hung out a couple times, i started to tell that me and her both liked each other quite a bit and thats when i decided to tell him.

I told him straight up "hey, we like each other and we both thought it would be best that ask what you think about it", and he was fine with it. Idk how this kid is, but just the thought of asking them usually makes them feel a little better.


Yeah, if I were to find out it's mutual and we both want a relationship I would ask.

[someone447]

Yeah, if I were to find out it's mutual and we both want a relationship I would ask.

Better to ask now, you know that you are really starting to like her. It's better if you ask now, before you start to like her even more. Just being up front about it is the way to be.

[Zyro_1014]

Ok guys gonna ask you guys a question. Ive been asking some of my closest friends, and it hasnt been helping. Ive decided to bring it to SWDC and get the advice of some true experts ;)

So my ex GF and I dated for a year and a half, We broke up about a month before i left for school because she was so worried about trying to make it work while i was at school, and we had started to get into some little arguments here and there. Well now its half way through the school year, and she has started to talk to me again, and has brought up getting back together.

I have been seeing a girl while i have been here, nothing too serious. Its a fun little thing, but i do not feel half of what i felt for my ex. Obviously i still have feelings for my ex, but i really hadnt talked to her much until a couple weeks ago.

Get back together with the ex? or stay away from it?

[yourfavestoner]

It's definitely not a hit and quit thing. I don't know if it's mutual yet. If it isn't then the plan of action is obvious. Even when they were together, I considered her probably my next best friend.

There's your problem right there. It needs to be a hit it and quit it thing, because if it's not then you're basically empowering her over both of you.

Remember that women never ever ever ever ever ever EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER say or or do what they mean when it comes to guys. Assume that there is a hidden motive behind everything she says or does towards you. She went out with your friend for hella long and it ended messy? Yeah, she's probably got a few resentful feelings towards your boy, whether she admits it to you or not. For all you know, you could just be some pawn in a grand scheme for her to get back at him. Remember, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Don't fall in love and start catching feelings. Just flip her and have a sideshow in her *****.

[MetSox17]

There's your problem right there. It needs to be a hit it and quit it thing, because if it's not then you're basically empowering her over both of you.

Remember that women never ever ever ever ever ever EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER say or or do what they mean when it comes to guys. Assume that there is a hidden motive behind everything she says or does towards you. She went out with your friend for hella long and it ended messy? Yeah, she's probably got a few resentful feelings towards your boy, whether she admits it to you or not. For all you know, you could just be some pawn in a grand scheme for her to get back at him. Remember, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Don't fall in love and start catching feelings. Just flip her and have a sideshow in her *****.

If he does that, he loses his boy AND the girl. I'm not sure what the smart thing in doing that would be. You either get with it, or stay completely away.

[someone447]

Ok guys gonna ask you guys a question. Ive been asking some of my closest friends, and it hasnt been helping. Ive decided to bring it to SWDC and get the advice of some true experts ;)

So my ex GF and I dated for a year and a half, We broke up about a month before i left for school because she was so worried about trying to make it work while i was at school, and we had started to get into some little arguments here and there. Well now its half way through the school year, and she has started to talk to me again, and has brought up getting back together.

I have been seeing a girl while i have been here, nothing too serious. Its a fun little thing, but i do not feel half of what i felt for my ex. Obviously i still have feelings for my ex, but i really hadnt talked to her much until a couple weeks ago.

Get back together with the ex? or stay away from it?

You are in college, it ended for a reason. There will be plenty of others. There is no reason to get back with an ex. There is a reason it ended. Don't even consider it. You will find someone better. College is the time to have fun, there isn't a need to have a serious relationship. They don't work. You aren't going to marry this girl, so just get some strange. Have fun, don't worry about serious relationships. They will happen on accident, and when those do they are always the best ones.

JUST HAVE FUN.

[someone447]

If he does that, he loses his boy AND the girl. I'm not sure what the smart thing in doing that would be. You either get with it, or stay completely away.

Or C: none of the above. The ONLY thing you can do to make sure everything stays fine is to talk to your buddy. If he says no, you stay away. If he says don't date her, you just **** her. If he says, yeah, go for it. Then go for it. That way you don't lose your buddy, and it's always bros before hos.

[MetSox17]

Or C: none of the above. The ONLY thing you can do to make sure everything stays fine is to talk to your buddy. If he says no, you stay away. If he says don't date her, you just **** her. If he says, yeah, go for it. Then go for it. That way you don't lose your buddy, and it's always bros before hos.

If you don't feel it's worth it, why even bring it up to your friend? Who knows how he's gonna react, and if it'll change anything between you all. If you're gonna approach him about it, be ready to lose his friendship. That's worst case scenario, but it's very possible.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Ok guys gonna ask you guys a question. Ive been asking some of my closest friends, and it hasnt been helping. Ive decided to bring it to SWDC and get the advice of some true experts ;)

So my ex GF and I dated for a year and a half, We broke up about a month before i left for school because she was so worried about trying to make it work while i was at school, and we had started to get into some little arguments here and there. Well now its half way through the school year, and she has started to talk to me again, and has brought up getting back together.

I have been seeing a girl while i have been here, nothing too serious. Its a fun little thing, but i do not feel half of what i felt for my ex. Obviously i still have feelings for my ex, but i really hadnt talked to her much until a couple weeks ago.
?


Try and work it out with your ex, while maintaining what you already have at school.

[kalbears13]

There's your problem right there. It needs to be a hit it and quit it thing, because if it's not then you're basically empowering her over both of you.

Remember that women never ever ever ever ever ever EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER say or or do what they mean when it comes to guys. Assume that there is a hidden motive behind everything she says or does towards you. She went out with your friend for hella long and it ended messy? Yeah, she's probably got a few resentful feelings towards your boy, whether she admits it to you or not. For all you know, you could just be some pawn in a grand scheme for her to get back at him. Remember, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Don't fall in love and start catching feelings. Just flip her and have a sideshow in her *****.

Yeah, she told me she hates him. I always keep it in mind that she might want to do it for that reason but all signs point to that she's not.

[Zyro_1014]

Try and work it out with your ex, while maintaining what you already have at school.

now thats a little risky my friend, ive never been the type of guy to do somethin like that.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

now thats a little risky my friend, ive never been the type of guy to do somethin like that.


You've gotta take some risks. And it's nothing too serious. You just have to feel around where you are at with the ex. If it works out, ditch the current because you are more of a fan of the ex. If it doesn't work, you didn't burn a bridge with what you've got now.

[Zyro_1014]

You've gotta take some risks. And it's nothing too serious. You just have to feel around where you are at with the ex. If it works out, ditch the current because you are more of a fan of the ex. If it doesn't work, you didn't burn a bridge with what you've got now.

oooh ok, i see where youre goin with that.

I thought you were tellin me to get back together with my ex and keep the girl at school around.

Aight, i got ya ;)

[ATLDirtyBirds]

I thought you were tellin me to get back together with my ex and keep the girl at school around.


If they never know about each other... you could certainly pull that off. Especially if the girl at school is just for fun.

[Zyro_1014]

If they never know about each other... you could certainly pull that off. Especially if the girl at school is just for fun.

yea, well i know i could pull it off.

IDK if i have the balls to do that though.

[thecoolest]

Alright, one of my friends (not a best friend, but I've known him for a long time) is kind of going out with this girl that I've liked pretty much since I've known her. I don't really have many friends that are girls, but I'd consider her the closest one I have. Whenever I'm around her, I could just keep on talking and talking.

My friend is kind of a d-bag though, they're really on again/off again. Some days he'll be talking about how great she is and how much he likes her and other days he's talking about how he's not getting any action and how he wants to dump her. Obviously, hearing stuff like this from him annoys me, but I can't really say anything.

I've been trying to work up the courage to talk to him about how he shouldn't lead her on like that, and talking to her if there's any chance something could happen between us. Do you think it would be a good idea, or should I just stay away until they break up?

[Canadian_kid16]

damn coolest, the first paragraph sounded exactly like me...then it tailed off so I have no advice for you :(

Anyway, 5 months left to go for me in HS, should I "try" to get a g/f or jsut wait until university?

[Zyro_1014]

damn coolest, the first paragraph sounded exactly like me...then it tailed off so I have no advice for you :(

Anyway, 5 months left to go for me in HS, should I "try" to get a g/f or jsut wait until university?

I would say no, unless you find a girl that you think you could get into a serious relationship with, and have the possibility of going to the same school. If you guys havent been dating that long and you guys go off to different schools it will be really hard.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Anyway, 5 months left to go for me in HS, should I "try" to get a g/f or just wait until university?

I'd say take the "Superbad" approach and just try to get some practice in for college. You don't want college girls to know that "you suck dick at ******* *****."

[Zyro_1014]

I'd say take the "Superbad" approach and just try to get some practice in for college. You don't want college girls to know that "you suck dick at ******* *****."

good call! touche sir!

[Brent]

Do you think it would be a good idea, or should I just stay away until they break up?
I hate to say this but I bet you are 100% in the Friend Zone and thus don't have a shot. I could be wrong but I dont know the situation well enough. She keeps going back and forth with him because she's attached to him.

5 months left to go for me in HS, should I "try" to get a g/f or jsut wait until university?
As Drew pointed out, take the Superbad approach.

[d34ng3l021]

damn coolest, the first paragraph sounded exactly like me...then it tailed off so I have no advice for you :(

Anyway, 5 months left to go for me in HS, should I "try" to get a g/f or jsut wait until university?

Girls before going to college also wanna try new things. I think.

[someone447]

If you don't feel it's worth it, why even bring it up to your friend? Who knows how he's gonna react, and if it'll change anything between you all. If you're gonna approach him about it, be ready to lose his friendship. That's worst case scenario, but it's very possible.

Then he isn't a friend you want to keep anyway. If a friend of mine freaks out about asking about an ex, well he isn't worth the time anyway. But I try to only associate with mature people who tell talk through a problem. But I guess thats what growing up does, 3-4 years ago I was completely different.

[someone447]

yea, well i know i could pull it off.

IDK if i have the balls to do that though.

It's not about having balls, cheating is among the most cowardly things a person can do. It is possible to have an open relationship. If you are going to try to get back with your ex, make sure when you are at school you aren't tied down to her. Tell her that when you are back at home, you are with only her. But when you are at school, you aren't going to be tied down in a long distance relationship.

Honesty is always the best policy. Things don't blow up in your face.

[someone447]

damn coolest, the first paragraph sounded exactly like me...then it tailed off so I have no advice for you :(

Anyway, 5 months left to go for me in HS, should I "try" to get a g/f or jsut wait until university?

Sure, if you plan on breaking up before you go off to school. There is no reason to have a serious gf while in college. It is especially bad to go into college with a serious gf.

This is for everyone still in high school, as much as you think this relationship is meaningful and different, it isn't. High schoolers are not mature enough to handle a real relationship. Have fun and date while in high school, but end it before you go off to college. Then do the same thing in college, if you don't know yourself, a relationship won't work. And no one knows themselves until their mid 20s at the earliest. I feel like I am just beginning to learn who I am and what I like, and I am 22.

[skinzzfan25]

I guess this is a little followup to my previous story if anybody remembers lol.

Well I went to that party. The girl wasn't there, so I didn't have to talk to her which was pretty good. Her friends were there though and I said hi to them. As I was talking to this different girl that I had just met at the party, the owner of the house comes downstairs and yells COPSSSS.

The girl ran back deeper into the party and I just headed for the door lol. I think she had to find her ride or friend or something. Anyway I hopped two fences and ran through some backyards and got to my friends car that we parked like a half mile away to avoid this situation.

Then all of a sudden I hear a freaking helicopter over me. It circles the house and puts the spotlight in the woods that I had just sprinted through. I changed my hiding spot and found an open shed with a window further off in the distance. I waited about 20 minutes and met back up with some friends then drove off. When we passed the house, there were 3 dodge charger cop cars, a van/SWAT looking thing with freaking gate in it, and 3 regular cop cars.

That + a helicopter for a HIGHSCHOOL party. And I think they caught like 5/80 people. What a joke.

Anyway, I got that girls number and I called her later, we met up at the gas station to check on each other and stuff. I felt like an ass for kinda ditching her but she didn't care.

Crazy night o.O

EDIT: I know this isn't really relationship-ish but whatever haha

[bsaza2358]

I guess this is a little followup to my previous story if anybody remembers lol.

Well I went to that party. The girl wasn't there, so I didn't have to talk to her which was pretty good. Her friends were there though and I said hi to them. As I was talking to this different girl that I had just met at the party, the owner of the house comes downstairs and yells COPSSSS.

The girl ran back deeper into the party and I just headed for the door lol. I think she had to find her ride or friend or something. Anyway I hopped two fences and ran through some backyards and got to my friends car that we parked like a half mile away to avoid this situation.

Then all of a sudden I hear a freaking helicopter over me. It circles the house and puts the spotlight in the woods that I had just sprinted through. I changed my hiding spot and found an open shed with a window further off in the distance. I waited about 20 minutes and met back up with some friends then drove off. When we passed the house, there were 3 dodge charger cop cars, a van/SWAT looking thing with freaking gate in it, and 3 regular cop cars.

That + a helicopter for a HIGHSCHOOL party. And I think they caught like 5/80 people. What a joke.

Anyway, I got that girls number and I called her later, we met up at the gas station to check on each other and stuff. I felt like an ass for kinda ditching her but she didn't care.

Crazy night o.O

EDIT: I know this isn't really relationship-ish but whatever haha

Cool story, Hansel!

[ATLDirtyBirds]

I guess this is a little followup to my previous story if anybody remembers lol.

Well I went to that party. The girl wasn't there, so I didn't have to talk to her which was pretty good. Her friends were there though and I said hi to them. As I was talking to this different girl that I had just met at the party, the owner of the house comes downstairs and yells COPSSSS.

The girl ran back deeper into the party and I just headed for the door lol. I think she had to find her ride or friend or something. Anyway I hopped two fences and ran through some backyards and got to my friends car that we parked like a half mile away to avoid this situation.

Then all of a sudden I hear a freaking helicopter over me. It circles the house and puts the spotlight in the woods that I had just sprinted through. I changed my hiding spot and found an open shed with a window further off in the distance. I waited about 20 minutes and met back up with some friends then drove off. When we passed the house, there were 3 dodge charger cop cars, a van/SWAT looking thing with freaking gate in it, and 3 regular cop cars.

That + a helicopter for a HIGHSCHOOL party. And I think they caught like 5/80 people. What a joke.

Anyway, I got that girls number and I called her later, we met up at the gas station to check on each other and stuff. I felt like an ass for kinda ditching her but she didn't care.

Crazy night o.O

EDIT: I know this isn't really relationship-ish but whatever haha


What the ****?

[skinzzfan25]

Cool story, Hansel!

What the ****?

Bsaza, what does that mean? lol

And I know. I live in a pretty wealthy county with not too much crime. Cops have nothing better to do than crash high school parties.

Oh and I later found out that some kid narced and got the cops up in there. I don't know him, but he's probably gonna get owned.

[bsaza2358]

Skinzz probably lives in Montgomery or Fairfax counties. Very wealthy residential communities where a beer bust = big crime...

My comment was a Zoolander reference. Was mocking you a bit for the meandering story that didn't go anywhere.

[skinzzfan25]

Skinzz probably lives in Montgomery or Fairfax counties. Very wealthy residential communities where a beer bust = big crime...

My comment was a Zoolander reference. Was mocking you a bit for the meandering story that didn't go anywhere.

Oh, went right over my head. But yeah you're right lol.

And yup. MoCo but that party was in Howard.

[yourfavestoner]

You guys need to all stop acting like a bunch of pussies and let your nuts drop. Bunch of ******* girls on here, I swear.

[giantsfan]

Who the **** narcs on a party? And a chopper, seriously. What the **** does a police department in a rich ass county need with a chopper?

[bsaza2358]

I have no idea why MoCo has a chopper, but they have the highest per capita household income of any county in the country, and taxes aren't cheap there. I'd say they had the budget to buy it for whatever reason...

[bsaza2358]

But, Howard County is near Baltimore, and there's plenty of back roads and all kinds of stuff like that. They have a solid tax base and might have a need for it for real crime...

[giantsfan]

I have no idea why MoCo has a chopper, but they have the highest per capita household income of any county in the country, and taxes aren't cheap there. I'd say they had the budget to buy it for whatever reason...

I understand that the police will spend money if they have money to spend, but you'd think that the local gov spend it on something more useful than a chopper if all they're doing is busting high school parties with it.

[derza222]

Ok guys gonna ask you guys a question. Ive been asking some of my closest friends, and it hasnt been helping. Ive decided to bring it to SWDC and get the advice of some true experts ;)

So my ex GF and I dated for a year and a half, We broke up about a month before i left for school because she was so worried about trying to make it work while i was at school, and we had started to get into some little arguments here and there. Well now its half way through the school year, and she has started to talk to me again, and has brought up getting back together.

I have been seeing a girl while i have been here, nothing too serious. Its a fun little thing, but i do not feel half of what i felt for my ex. Obviously i still have feelings for my ex, but i really hadnt talked to her much until a couple weeks ago.

Get back together with the ex? or stay away from it?

I've been dating the same girl off and on for over 3 and a half years, about a year and a half of which have been at college. Went from a HS relationship that I wasn't sure was going to last for more than two weeks to something pretty serious, we started fighting a lot one summer and split, she told me she still had feelings for me and I decided to get back with her, and we had a week or two long split while I was at college.

I go to school around 2 hours away and she commutes to school so when I come home I can see her. I really care about her, but it's not easy by any stretch. Honestly unless your feelings for this girl are really strong I think you're better off having fun at college. Don't get me wrong I'm happy where I am but I absolutely sometimes wish I could be having more fun at school. I'd wait for more serious relationships to come down the road when you know yourself a little better. Now's the time to enjoy yourself, man, so take advantage.

[Brent]

I understand that the police will spend money if they have money to spend, but you'd think that the local gov spend it on something more useful than a chopper if all they're doing is busting high school parties with it.
Keep in mind that they might share it with other bordering counties. The suburb that my parent live in has a SWAT team. You think it's overkill but they work with all the area towns/cities because everyone was tired of calling out the SWAT team from DFW International or the SWAT teams from Dallas PD/Ft. Worth PD.

[awfullyquiet]

i'm back to break your balls.

[fischbowl]

How are the good ol' Afrikaans doing anyways?

[MetSox17]

i'm back to break your balls.

Back in the states?

[619]

i'm back to break your balls.

You just know you couldn't leave us (or me). ;)

[awfullyquiet]

Back in the states?

no. up early eating breakfast.

[Jakey]

no. up early eating breakfast.

I tried ringing the number in your sig. It didnt work. Im dissapointed AQ :(




;)

[awfullyquiet]

I tried ringing the number in your sig. It didnt work. Im dissapointed AQ :(




;)

you have to be an american i guess.

[Jakey]

you have to be an american i guess.

Tut tut.

I kinda miss posting in this thread, but my relatioship is going so well atm i have no need to :/

[awfullyquiet]

Tut tut.

I kinda miss posting in this thread, but my relatioship is going so well atm i have no need to :/

don't jinx it. that's a great thing! congrats. don't blow it.

[bsaza2358]

Ok guys gonna ask you guys a question. Ive been asking some of my closest friends, and it hasnt been helping. Ive decided to bring it to SWDC and get the advice of some true experts ;)

So my ex GF and I dated for a year and a half, We broke up about a month before i left for school because she was so worried about trying to make it work while i was at school, and we had started to get into some little arguments here and there. Well now its half way through the school year, and she has started to talk to me again, and has brought up getting back together.

I have been seeing a girl while i have been here, nothing too serious. Its a fun little thing, but i do not feel half of what i felt for my ex. Obviously i still have feelings for my ex, but i really hadnt talked to her much until a couple weeks ago.

Get back together with the ex? or stay away from it?

I think you guys broke it off because you didn't want to deal with the issues associated with long distance and the temptations associated with that. I think this is a case of absence making the heart grow fonder, but maybe you also lack a sense of closure from your ex. Like you're wondering what could have been. I wouldn't mess with a HS girl while I'm in college and all that. Just keep up the casual thing with your college lady and look for something better at school. Keep it local. When you're home for your next break, you can maybe rekindle with your ex, but I would caution against. It's just going to be a huge pain in the arse, and it's not even worth it, IMO.

I'm not saying the feelings that you're feeling here aren't real. Just that you shouldn't go backwards. Look forward. If it's meant to be long term, you'll reconnect in the future.

[bsaza2358]

Bump. Making sure this thread doesn't drown in the sea of idiotic other posts...

[Zyro_1014]

I think you guys broke it off because you didn't want to deal with the issues associated with long distance and the temptations associated with that. I think this is a case of absence making the heart grow fonder, but maybe you also lack a sense of closure from your ex. Like you're wondering what could have been. I wouldn't mess with a HS girl while I'm in college and all that. Just keep up the casual thing with your college lady and look for something better at school. Keep it local. When you're home for your next break, you can maybe rekindle with your ex, but I would caution against. It's just going to be a huge pain in the arse, and it's not even worth it, IMO.

I'm not saying the feelings that you're feeling here aren't real. Just that you shouldn't go backwards. Look forward. If it's meant to be long term, you'll reconnect in the future.

thanks man, im gettin some good advice from you guys.

[skinzzfan25]

Being in high school, girls are so annoying...

I was talking to this one girl from different school. She was giving me all the signs, flirting etc with me. We went out a few times and I took her to a couple parties. But then whenever I tried to get close with her she would turn me down. Later she was explaining in front of me how we were best friends and stuff. She even asked to bring her ex-boyfriend to my good friends party that we were throwing. I said whatever, accepted that I was in the friend zone and moved on.

So at that party I hooked up with her friend, and now the original girl isn't talking to me. Should I even try to talk to her?

Alright quoting myself here to bring back something. That girl is having a party this friday and invited all of my friends except me and another one of my close friends. I took her and her friends to 4-5 different parties and introduced them to my friends who did the same.

Should I crash this ****? I'm not gonna look for trouble, but I have no problem rolling up there and hanging with my friends.

[Zyro_1014]

Alright quoting myself here to bring back something. That girl is having a party this friday and invited all of my friends except me and another one of my close friends. I took her and her friends to 4-5 different parties and introduced them to my friends who did the same.

Should I crash this ****? I'm not gonna look for trouble, but I have no problem rolling up there and hanging with my friends.

you wouldnt be crashing the party, you would be bringin the party son. lol

party doesnt start till YOU get there ;)

[skinzzfan25]

you wouldnt be crashing the party, you would be bringin the party son. lol

party doesnt start till YOU get there ;)

Yeah I guess. I saw her friends at that crazy birthday party that got busted with the chopper and said hi to them.

Still haven't talked to her in about a month though. If she tries to throw me out I guess I'll just make a big scene and be a douche :)

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Alright quoting myself here to bring back something. That girl is having a party this friday and invited all of my friends except me and another one of my close friends. I took her and her friends to 4-5 different parties and introduced them to my friends who did the same.

Should I crash this ****? I'm not gonna look for trouble, but I have no problem rolling up there and hanging with my friends.



Go for it. The **** is she going to do about it?

[Philliez01]

Weird one here.

Me and this girl have been very close friends for a year now. It started off with us in a history class and we got to know each other so I asked her out. I got a "uh...not ready for a boyfriend" deal. The usual. Two months later she went out with this other guy and our friendship grew closer but I really only wanted to go out with her. The sad thing is though, I couldn't break the friendship though I knew it was wrong for me to be friends with her because of that.

So then she starts coming to me with all her problems and the more I get to know her and how she treats this boyfriend of hers, I start thinking that I should not want to go out with her regardless. I give token advice ("let things play out" yada yada yada) and then she breaks up with me.

Now she tells me via AIM that she broke up with him because she likes me and wants to basically do it. I get all happy because eh, it's 5:00pm and its a Saturday and Around the Horn isn't on and I could deal with that. She is a "rookie" too if you catch my drift. But I'm a dumbass. Instead of pouncing on the deal, I keep talking. Then I find out she wanted a relationship and she starts POOOOURRRRING her guts out to me. I say "I don't want a relationship" and she hasn't talked to me since.

It's been about a month and I don't miss her at all. But she did send me a text saying how inconsiderate, terrible and kniving I am.

Basically, did I pull a dick move?

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Weird one here.

Me and this girl have been very close friends for a year now. It started off with us in a history class and we got to know each other so I asked her out. I got a "uh...not ready for a boyfriend" deal. The usual. Two months later she went out with this other guy and our friendship grew closer but I really only wanted to go out with her. The sad thing is though, I couldn't break the friendship though I knew it was wrong for me to be friends with her because of that.

So then she starts coming to me with all her problems and the more I get to know her and how she treats this boyfriend of hers, I start thinking that I should not want to go out with her regardless. I give token advice ("let things play out" yada yada yada) and then she breaks up with me.

Now she tells me via AIM that she broke up with him because she likes me and wants to basically do it. I get all happy because eh, it's 5:00pm and its a Saturday and Around the Horn isn't on and I could deal with that. She is a "rookie" too if you catch my drift. But I'm a dumbass. Instead of pouncing on the deal, I keep talking. Then I find out she wanted a relationship and she starts POOOOURRRRING her guts out to me. I say "I don't want a relationship" and she hasn't talked to me since.

It's been about a month and I don't miss her at all. But she did send me a text saying how inconsiderate, terrible and kniving I am.

Basically, did I pull a dick move?

Nope. You are fine.

[derza222]

Nope. You are fine.

Yeah, I could see you maybe asking if you pulled a dick move if you did it with her and then pulled the I don't want a relationship out, but I see absolutely no issue there.

[skinzzfan25]

Weird one here.

Me and this girl have been very close friends for a year now. It started off with us in a history class and we got to know each other so I asked her out. I got a "uh...not ready for a boyfriend" deal. The usual. Two months later she went out with this other guy and our friendship grew closer but I really only wanted to go out with her. The sad thing is though, I couldn't break the friendship though I knew it was wrong for me to be friends with her because of that.

So then she starts coming to me with all her problems and the more I get to know her and how she treats this boyfriend of hers, I start thinking that I should not want to go out with her regardless. I give token advice ("let things play out" yada yada yada) and then she breaks up with me.

Now she tells me via AIM that she broke up with him because she likes me and wants to basically do it. I get all happy because eh, it's 5:00pm and its a Saturday and Around the Horn isn't on and I could deal with that. She is a "rookie" too if you catch my drift. But I'm a dumbass. Instead of pouncing on the deal, I keep talking. Then I find out she wanted a relationship and she starts POOOOURRRRING her guts out to me. I say "I don't want a relationship" and she hasn't talked to me since.

It's been about a month and I don't miss her at all. But she did send me a text saying how inconsiderate, terrible and kniving I am.

Basically, did I pull a dick move?

No, not at all. You put yourself out there to begin with and she said no, essentially the same way you just did now. Like derza said, if you smashed and quit it, dick move.

Otherwise let her figure out what she missed out on and keep on truckin.

[Philliez01]

Thanks ATL, derza and skinzz. I felt that I did the right thing, but still wanted someone besides myself telling me.

DC'ers win again!

[d34ng3l021]

Weird one here.

Me and this girl have been very close friends for a year now. It started off with us in a history class and we got to know each other so I asked her out. I got a "uh...not ready for a boyfriend" deal. The usual. Two months later she went out with this other guy and our friendship grew closer but I really only wanted to go out with her. The sad thing is though, I couldn't break the friendship though I knew it was wrong for me to be friends with her because of that.

So then she starts coming to me with all her problems and the more I get to know her and how she treats this boyfriend of hers, I start thinking that I should not want to go out with her regardless. I give token advice ("let things play out" yada yada yada) and then she breaks up with me.

Now she tells me via AIM that she broke up with him because she likes me and wants to basically do it. I get all happy because eh, it's 5:00pm and its a Saturday and Around the Horn isn't on and I could deal with that. She is a "rookie" too if you catch my drift. But I'm a dumbass. Instead of pouncing on the deal, I keep talking. Then I find out she wanted a relationship and she starts POOOOURRRRING her guts out to me. I say "I don't want a relationship" and she hasn't talked to me since.

It's been about a month and I don't miss her at all. But she did send me a text saying how inconsiderate, terrible and kniving I am.

Basically, did I pull a dick move?

Wow, I envy you.

Me and this girl went out 3 times in HS, with the longest relationship being 6 months long. Each relationship was good, but each time the relationship was cut short because of other things (didnt know how to handle relationship, parents, college) and there was obviously something there. We broke up before college and 2 weeks after college starts, she starts dating this other guy and is his girlfriend for a year. At the end of her relationship, she and I became really close (to the point where she was saying stuff about how she liked me). After the break up, she completely changed and we became a bit more distant and she said she doesn't want to be in a relationship. Its also hard considering she goes to college 8 hours away from me.

I don't know if I want to be just friends. Being friends with her and close to her makes me like her, but I don't know if I want that; it just ends up sucking because it might not go anywhere. Being away from her just gives me no shot with being with her, which sucks as well.

[derza222]

Wow, I envy you.

Me and this girl went out 3 times in HS, with the longest relationship being 6 months long. Each relationship was good, but each time the relationship was cut short because of other things (didnt know how to handle relationship, parents, college) and there was obviously something there. We broke up before college and 2 weeks after college starts, she starts dating this other guy and is his girlfriend for a year. At the end of her relationship, she and I became really close (to the point where she was saying stuff about how she liked me). After the break up, she completely changed and we became a bit more distant and she said she doesn't want to be in a relationship. Its also hard considering she goes to college 8 hours away from me.

I don't know if I want to be just friends. Being friends with her and close to her makes me like her, but I don't know if I want that; it just ends up sucking because it might not go anywhere. Being away from her just gives me no shot with being with her, which sucks as well.

Being friends can suck, but in this case it seems like it's the best case scenario. Distance relationships blow also, I'm only 2 hours away from my girlfriend and it's still no fun.

At this point if she doesn't want the relationship there's not much you can do about it. If you're close enough that you'll want to be friends with her regardless then I'd just do that and see if something comes up, and if it'd suck too much to see her dating other guys I'd just not worry about the relationship too much and move on.

For instance, my girlfriend's probably my closest friend so if we split up regardless of who did it I'd want to be friends unless it ended really ugly. She has made it clear she would not want to because she'd be jealous of the girls that dated me. Completely depends case to case IMO.

But between the distance and the fact that she doesn't want a relationship I really wouldn't focus on a relationship with her at all and just work stuff out with other chicks. If you want to keep the friendship for the sake of the friendship do that, if not I'd blow her off, but I wouldn't stay friends with her purely so you can try and date her later.

[someone447]

Weird one here.

Me and this girl have been very close friends for a year now. It started off with us in a history class and we got to know each other so I asked her out. I got a "uh...not ready for a boyfriend" deal. The usual. Two months later she went out with this other guy and our friendship grew closer but I really only wanted to go out with her. The sad thing is though, I couldn't break the friendship though I knew it was wrong for me to be friends with her because of that.

So then she starts coming to me with all her problems and the more I get to know her and how she treats this boyfriend of hers, I start thinking that I should not want to go out with her regardless. I give token advice ("let things play out" yada yada yada) and then she breaks up with me.

Now she tells me via AIM that she broke up with him because she likes me and wants to basically do it. I get all happy because eh, it's 5:00pm and its a Saturday and Around the Horn isn't on and I could deal with that. She is a "rookie" too if you catch my drift. But I'm a dumbass. Instead of pouncing on the deal, I keep talking. Then I find out she wanted a relationship and she starts POOOOURRRRING her guts out to me. I say "I don't want a relationship" and she hasn't talked to me since.

It's been about a month and I don't miss her at all. But she did send me a text saying how inconsiderate, terrible and kniving I am.

Basically, did I pull a dick move?

How was it possibly a dick move? You told her you didn't want a relationship. That is called being a mature adult. Had you told her you wanted a relationship, ****** her, then quit talking to her, THAT would have been a dick move.

By the way, you weren't really friends with her. It isn't a friendship when one person is pining for the other. It is an unrequited crush.

[someone447]

Wow, I envy you.

Me and this girl went out 3 times in HS, with the longest relationship being 6 months long. Each relationship was good, but each time the relationship was cut short because of other things (didnt know how to handle relationship, parents, college) and there was obviously something there. We broke up before college and 2 weeks after college starts, she starts dating this other guy and is his girlfriend for a year. At the end of her relationship, she and I became really close (to the point where she was saying stuff about how she liked me). After the break up, she completely changed and we became a bit more distant and she said she doesn't want to be in a relationship. Its also hard considering she goes to college 8 hours away from me.

I don't know if I want to be just friends. Being friends with her and close to her makes me like her, but I don't know if I want that; it just ends up sucking because it might not go anywhere. Being away from her just gives me no shot with being with her, which sucks as well.

Friends with benefits. You are apart from each other, so no reason to be in a relationship. You have ****** before. Just **** her when you are back in town. Just make sure to be honest that it is only a when you are back in town thing.

[someone447]

Alright quoting myself here to bring back something. That girl is having a party this friday and invited all of my friends except me and another one of my close friends. I took her and her friends to 4-5 different parties and introduced them to my friends who did the same.

Should I crash this ****? I'm not gonna look for trouble, but I have no problem rolling up there and hanging with my friends.

Just go, and if she throws you out laugh and take your friends with you. If your friends won't leave, they obviously aren't very good friends.

[BlindSite]

Agreed, it could've been an honest mistake and if your friends don't back you up then they're not really friends

[d34ng3l021]

Being friends can suck, but in this case it seems like it's the best case scenario. Distance relationships blow also, I'm only 2 hours away from my girlfriend and it's still no fun.

At this point if she doesn't want the relationship there's not much you can do about it. If you're close enough that you'll want to be friends with her regardless then I'd just do that and see if something comes up, and if it'd suck too much to see her dating other guys I'd just not worry about the relationship too much and move on.

For instance, my girlfriend's probably my closest friend so if we split up regardless of who did it I'd want to be friends unless it ended really ugly. She has made it clear she would not want to because she'd be jealous of the girls that dated me. Completely depends case to case IMO.

But between the distance and the fact that she doesn't want a relationship I really wouldn't focus on a relationship with her at all and just work stuff out with other chicks. If you want to keep the friendship for the sake of the friendship do that, if not I'd blow her off, but I wouldn't stay friends with her purely so you can try and date her later.

Yeah. We have had clean break ups every time and if we aren't dating, we are usually best friends. We are actually talking more now and I guess I'll keep this thing going. If she starts to date another guy (one of her friends likes her. i think she is beginning to like him too), then I don't think I would be able to continue being friends, which is a shame; she and I are very close.

Whenever we talked about how a long term relationship would work out, I always thought we could make it work. Its probably just optimism and thats something every couple thinks of.

Friends with benefits. You are apart from each other, so no reason to be in a relationship. You have ****** before. Just **** her when you are back in town. Just make sure to be honest that it is only a when you are back in town thing.

Our last relationship was supposed to be that (she actually proposed it...). It was the summer before college and I guess she just wanted some. She asked over AIM too. Who am I to say no? By the end of the summer though, I kinda liked her and she liked me a lot and was pretty upset that I didn't officially ask her out as college started and whatnot. I do not know if she would be down for that again...but there is a slight chance. I wouldn't know how to ask it, you know?

[someone447]

Yeah. We have had clean break ups every time and if we aren't dating, we are usually best friends. We are actually talking more now and I guess I'll keep this thing going. If she starts to date another guy (one of her friends likes her. i think she is beginning to like him too), then I don't think I would be able to continue being friends, which is a shame; she and I are very close.

Whenever we talked about how a long term relationship would work out, I always thought we could make it work. Its probably just optimism and thats something every couple thinks of.



Our last relationship was supposed to be that (she actually proposed it...). It was the summer before college and I guess she just wanted some. She asked over AIM too. Who am I to say no? By the end of the summer though, I kinda liked her and she liked me a lot and was pretty upset that I didn't officially ask her out as college started and whatnot. I do not know if she would be down for that again...but there is a slight chance. I wouldn't know how to ask it, you know?

You two have already talked about having a relationship and agreed against it. Next time you are in town make a move. I bet she would be into it. It's not really a thing you ask. It just sorta happens. Just be clear the whole way that there isn't going to be a relationship, and if one of you starts to develop feelings, break it off.

[Vikes99ej]

Am I crazy for thinking the good girls only go for guys who are good-looking or rich?

[SuperKevin]

Am I crazy for thinking the good girls only go for guys who are good-looking or rich?

Sounds like an FML story waiting to happen

[Vikes99ej]

Sounds like an FML story waiting to happen

Oh no, in order for there to be an FML story I would have had to have the balls to actually put myself in one of those positions.

[MetSox17]

Am I crazy for thinking the good girls only go for guys who are good-looking or rich?

That sounds just about right.

[Vikes99ej]

That sounds just about right.

Okay, just re-assuring myself.

[Brent]

Am I crazy for thinking the good girls only go for guys who are good-looking or rich?
No you are not. I could delve into a long spiel about all this but I think we all know how it works.

[SuperKevin]

Am I crazy for thinking the good girls only go for guys who are good-looking or rich?

Lucky for me I'm both..........

I think I'll spend my lunch crying in the bathroom now.

[d34ng3l021]

Am I crazy for thinking the good girls only go for guys who are good-looking or rich?

I disagree. Bitches that aren't worth it go for good looking or rich guys.

The down to earth and sweet girls are taken.

[giantsfan]

Am I crazy for thinking the good girls only go for guys who are good-looking or rich?

Just like all of us guys, good and otherwise, go for hot and smart girls? I'm not saying that's not true just pointing out that all people go for the people who are most attractive to them.

[tjsunstein]

Just like all of us guys, good and otherwise, go for hot and smart girls? I'm not saying that's not true just pointing out that all people go for the people who are most attractive to them.

This isn't necessarily true. Sometimes people go for "that someone" that likes them because they want the attention.

Sometimes they go for the "that someone" that will improve their publicity. This is usually true in middle school or high school where some girls get with guys to make them more popular and some things like that.

There are numerous motives why someone chooses someone and varying factors as to why they prefer certain "types." Money and good looks work and having both is a lady killer but the best thing I can say to anyone is be yourself.

[giantsfan]

This isn't necessarily true. Sometimes people go for "that someone" that likes them because they want the attention.

Sometimes they go for the "that someone" that will improve their publicity. This is usually true in middle school or high school where some girls get with guys to make them more popular and some things like that.

There are numerous motives why someone chooses someone and varying factors as to why they prefer certain "types." Money and good looks work and having both is a lady killer but the best thing I can say to anyone is be yourself.

Not disagreeing at all with you, just pointing out that just like in general most guys will go after women they consider attractive, whatever those reasons may be, in general most women will go after men they consider attractive, and looks and power has attracted women since the dawn of time.

[619]

Not disagreeing at all with you, just pointing out that just like in general most guys will go after women they consider attractive, whatever those reasons may be, in general most women will go after men they consider attractive, and looks and power has attracted women since the dawn of time.

Yeah, I'm in total agreement. It's only natural to flee to those girls who are visually attractive to you, especially in settings where you don't know them all that well personally.

[georgiafan]

There is this girl that I like and we've been emailing back and forth lately. I know her in real life so she isn't just someone i've meet online. I want to ask her out, but I don't have her phone # and I'm pretty sure it's lame to ask her out via email. So how do I take the next step to talking to her on the phone? Do I just ask her for her number flat out or what? Then how do I go about getting the date?

[Brent]

There is this girl that I like and we've been emailing back and forth lately. I know her in real life so she isn't just someone i've meet online. I want to ask her out, but I don't have her phone # and I'm pretty sure it's lame to ask her out via email. So how do I take the next step to talking to her on the phone? Do I just ask her for her number flat out or what? Then how do I go about getting the date?
Make a comment about how you'd prefer to talk on the phone rather than over email and send your number and be like, "just call me next time you want to talk" and leave the decision up to her... she'll do it.

[d34ng3l021]

There is this girl that I like and we've been emailing back and forth lately. I know her in real life so she isn't just someone i've meet online. I want to ask her out, but I don't have her phone # and I'm pretty sure it's lame to ask her out via email. So how do I take the next step to talking to her on the phone? Do I just ask her for her number flat out or what? Then how do I go about getting the date?

What Brent said. Find a way to get her number and text/call her and stuff. Then ask to meet up for coffee and whatnot.

[thule]

Haha....just curious has the ladder theory been brought up in here yet...if not I'd love to post up some of my favorite parts...I try to live by it..and best relationship advice out there.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Haha....just curious has the ladder theory been brought up in here yet...if not I'd love to post up some of my favorite parts...I try to live by it..and best relationship advice out there.

The ladder theory is straight money.

[d34ng3l021]

What is the ladder theory? Sounds damn interesting.

[CashmoneyDrew]

What is the ladder theory? Sounds damn interesting.

http://ladderwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page

Ch-Check it out!

[d34ng3l021]

http://ladderwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page

Ch-Check it out!

Wow ****. I am the prototypical intellectual ***** to the girl I like.

****.

[619]

The ladder theory doesn't lie.

[georgiafan]

What Brent said. Find a way to get her number and text/call her and stuff. Then ask to meet up for coffee and whatnot.

Make a comment about how you'd prefer to talk on the phone rather than over email and send your number and be like, "just call me next time you want to talk" and leave the decision up to her... she'll do it.

Thanks for the help I took your advice so now I'll wait and see. Man this will be a long day at work.

[someone447]

Wow ****. I am the prototypical intellectual ***** to the girl I like.

****.

You aren't really friends if you are only friends with her with the hope of one day sleeping with her.

[d34ng3l021]

You aren't really friends if you are only friends with her with the hope of one day sleeping with her.

Its more than that. I enjoy talking to her, listening to her, etc. Its just that I consistently take the short end of the stick in hopes of keeping the friendship and possibly dating her. I mean, we were best friends when we first dated.

[Brent]

we were best friends when we first dated.
So, let me get this straight, you were friends, then you dated and now you aren't dating and are friends again?

[d34ng3l021]

So, let me get this straight, you were friends, then you dated and now you aren't dating and are friends again?

More or less. Its that x3 and throughout the course of high school and halfway through college.

[someone447]

Its more than that. I enjoy talking to her, listening to her, etc. Its just that I consistently take the short end of the stick in hopes of keeping the friendship and possibly dating her. I mean, we were best friends when we first dated.

Then that isn't really a friendship. From what little you've said it seems like she is using you. Friendships are give and take, don't take the short end of the stick all the time. Just stand up for yourself, and if you lose her as a friend she wasn't worth it anyway(that goes for both guys and girls).

[someone447]

I seriously hate the ladder theory, it is a gross simplification that isn't even correct. It has nothing to do with being a "good guy" or a "asshole." Good guys get good women too. It is all about confidence, if you have confidence you will get girls, it doesn't matter if you are an asshole or if you are nice.

Guys have "friend ladders" too. Ladder theory isn't the way to live your life. Have fun, be confident, and be interesting, that's what you need to get girls.

[bsaza2358]

There is this girl that I like and we've been emailing back and forth lately. I know her in real life so she isn't just someone i've meet online. I want to ask her out, but I don't have her phone # and I'm pretty sure it's lame to ask her out via email. So how do I take the next step to talking to her on the phone? Do I just ask her for her number flat out or what? Then how do I go about getting the date?

I would just tell her you're gonna be out Saturday night at some place. Be it a bar, club, party, whatever. Talk to her about weekend plans. When she tells you what her plans are, just say, "well, your plans can't be THAT good because they don't involve me." 99% of the time, that'll get you an invite. If that's the case, ask her for her phone # in case you're running late. If you invite her out to your plans, get her phone # in case plans change.

Done and done.

[awfullyquiet]

I seriously hate the ladder theory, it is a gross simplification that isn't even correct. It has nothing to do with being a "good guy" or a "asshole." Good guys get good women too. It is all about confidence, if you have confidence you will get girls, it doesn't matter if you are an asshole or if you are nice.

Guys have "friend ladders" too. Ladder theory isn't the way to live your life. Have fun, be confident, and be interesting, that's what you need to get girls.

ladder theory only works in the movies.

[Brent]

I seriously hate the ladder theory, it is a gross simplification that isn't even correct. It has nothing to do with being a "good guy" or a "asshole." Good guys get good women too. It is all about confidence, if you have confidence you will get girls, it doesn't matter if you are an asshole or if you are nice.

Guys have "friend ladders" too. Ladder theory isn't the way to live your life. Have fun, be confident, and be interesting, that's what you need to get girls.
It's satire. Basically all it says is make a girl feel special when she is around you and she'll like you, whether you are doing that consciously or subconsciously.

[Canadian_kid16]

Wow ****. I am the prototypical intellectual ***** to the girl I like.

****.

it could be worse...you could be under the category of cudding ***** like I am with a few girls I know :(

[someone447]

It's satire. Basically all it says is make a girl feel special when she is around you and she'll like you, whether you are doing that consciously or subconsciously.

Unfortunately, people take it to heart and try to mold their actions to it. Is there a friend ladder and an attraction ladder? Sure, you can call it that. But it is possible to go from friends to attraction. Does it happen often, no, not really. But the same can be said for guys.

[BamaFalcon59]

I've been tryin to chill with this one girl for like a year now. We have been cool, but never hung out after school. Something always came up. We're gonna chill tomarrow.

Shes graduated and I'm a junior. Total babe, smart, loves football.

Any tips? Or ideas on what to do? Trying not to screw this one up. Although, I probably shouldn't be nervous. She's cool.

[CashmoneyDrew]

I've been tryin to chill with this one girl for like a year now. We have been cool, but never hung out after school. Something always came up. We're gonna chill tomarrow.

Shes graduated and I'm a junior. Total babe, smart, loves football.

Any tips? Or ideas on what to do? Trying not to screw this one up. Although, I probably shouldn't be nervous. She's cool.

What are you doing exactly? Just hanging with each other, or actually trying to go somewhere and do something?

[BamaFalcon59]

What are you doing exactly? Just hanging with each other, or actually trying to go somewhere and do something?

No idea. We just agreed to chill.

Here in comes NFLDC.

[Zyro_1014]

No idea. We just agreed to chill.

Here in comes NFLDC.

older girl eh?

i dated a girl a year older than me, but not 2 years. Just be yourself man, cant go wrong with that. She must like ya a little bit. Dont try to over do it

[BamaFalcon59]

older girl eh?

i dated a girl a year older than me, but not 2 years. Just be yourself man, cant go wrong with that. She must like ya a little bit. Dont try to over do it

It's more like a year. She graduated early.

Yeah, probably will. I just gotta figure out what we're doing.

[Zyro_1014]

It's more like a year. She graduated early.

Yeah, probably will. I just gotta figure out what we're doing.

i see i see, well just try to do somethin fun ya know. like is it being labeled a date? go to dinner and just sit and mingle. Go for a walk or somethin see a movie?

[BamaFalcon59]

i see i see, well just try to do somethin fun ya know. like is it being labeled a date? go to dinner and just sit and mingle. Go for a walk or somethin see a movie?

Yeah I'm thinking something simple. I don't really know what this is. I'll see tomarrow.

I'm cool with her, I'd be fine just being friends with her. But obviously that's not what I'm hoping for. We'll see how it gos.

[Zyro_1014]

Yeah I'm thinking something simple. I don't really know what this is. I'll see tomarrow.

I'm cool with her, I'd be fine just being friends with her. But obviously that's not what I'm hoping for. We'll see how it gos.

do your thang bro.

[WinslowBodden]

heres my advice.

dont take my advice on relationships at all im stupid as ****.

[Brent]

heres my advice.

dont take my advice on relationships at all im stupid as ****.
You need to not drink and get on NFLDC at such an hour haha

[CashmoneyDrew]

Don't see a movie on the first date.

[Brent]

Don't see a movie on the first date.
Movie dates are all sorts of failure unless you are "officially" boyfriend and girlfriend.

[Vikes99ej]

Movie dates are all sorts of failure unless you are "officially" boyfriend and girlfriend.

Honestly, it leaves no room at all for conversation, something I would think is very important when you want to get to know someone.

[BamaFalcon59]

Don't see a movie on the first date.

I was thinking that.

I think I'll just wing it haha.

[d34ng3l021]

Movie dates are all sorts of failure unless you are "officially" boyfriend and girlfriend.

I think going to see a movie and then going to dinner would work well as an early date. You can have the movie to fall back to for conversation and that serves almost as an ice breaker/ helps you become more comfortable and open with each other. Going just to a movie is lame though.

Maybe its just me though.

[BamaFalcon59]

I think going to see a movie and then going to dinner would work well as an early date. You can have the movie to fall back to for conversation and that serves almost as an ice breaker/ helps you become more comfortable and open with each other. Going just to a movie is lame though.

Maybe its just me though.

Yeah, a movie and back is lame. No conversation. Movie and eating is a little better.

[Brent]

Including a movie, unless it's her idea isn't going to help you in anyway. Sticking 90-120 minutes of not talking into a date isn't going to help you out. Girls want you do be engaging and carry a conversation.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Dude. This might sound *** to you, but ice skating is always a win with the ladies. If you don't think of anything else, ice skating is almost always an excellent first date.

[BamaFalcon59]

Dude. This might sound *** to you, but ice skating is always a win with the ladies. If you don't think of anything else, ice skating is almost always an excellent first date.

Lol, I haven't heard that one.

Not sure there is anywhere around here with an iceskating rink.

[Brent]

Dude. This might sound *** to you, but ice skating is always a win with the ladies. If you don't think of anything else, ice skating is almost always an excellent first date.
I have used that one before and it does indeed work every time. Especially if both of you know how to skate; if she can't, she might not has as much fun as she could.

[dabears10]

Dude. This might sound *** to you, but ice skating is always a win with the ladies. If you don't think of anything else, ice skating is almost always an excellent first date.

Truth, this allows something funny to happen if nerves creep in and allow you to talk and be engaging. Also if you have a town area, it is pretty nice to just walk up and down the streets suggest ice cream or a small bite to eat. Its all about conversation and for people who are not natural talkers doing something really helps.

[someone447]

Movies are a bad first date, even if dinner is involved. That's the great thing about being over 21, 99% of the time you will just meet out at a bar(or maybe grab some food first, and head to a bar after.)

[ATLDirtyBirds]

First time with a girl, I like to just hang out at her place. Get a gage if anything is going to happen on this first meet, and work my way from there. Normally, if you are just chilling in a basement or something, you are relaxed because you are in a calm atmosphere.

[BlindSite]

If you're of age going to a restaurant with a bar is a good idea. You can have a sit down meal and talk and if things go well its pretty easy to get in more time with them by having a few drinks.

Going for a walk might sound lame, but its a really good and easy way to score points.

[someone447]

If you're of age going to a restaurant with a bar is a good idea. You can have a sit down meal and talk and if things go well its pretty easy to get in more time with them by having a few drinks.

Going for a walk might sound lame, but its a really good and easy way to score points.

Seconded, both of those.

But it doesn't really matter what you do, as long as you are fun to be around it will be fine.

[yourfavestoner]

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[skinzzfan25]

What's the protocol on hooking up with my good friend's little brothers ex girlfriend? haha. They broke up like 2 months ago and I've been talking to her quite a bit. Should I run it by my friend?

We're a year apart so I'm not cradle-robbing.

[Brent]

What's the protocol on hooking up with my good friend's little brothers ex girlfriend? haha
Are you friends with the little brother? If not, who gives a **** about him?

[d34ng3l021]

What's the protocol on hooking up with my good friend's little brothers ex girlfriend? haha. They broke up like 2 months ago and I've been talking to her quite a bit. Should I run it by my friend?

We're a year apart so I'm not cradle-robbing.

Dude there is no protocol for that ****.

[skinzzfan25]

Are you friends with the little brother? If not, who gives a **** about him?

Yeah I'm cool with him and I see him around a lot but I wouldn't say he's a friend.

[Zyro_1014]

Yeah I'm cool with him and I see him around a lot but I wouldn't say he's a friend.

i dont think it really matters then, you should be good to go.

[Brent]

Yeah I'm cool with him and I see him around a lot but I wouldn't say he's a friend.
Not a friend? Then who gives a ****? Tell your friend that you are into that girl and see if he can tell you anything about her that his brother said or whatever (freak in bed, awful at coitus, you get the idea).

[bsaza2358]

If it's a friend, you owe a talk or should consider not doing it. If it's a sibling of a friend, you can see where it goes and have a talk after. Not really a big deal at all to me.

[jballa838]

good first date locations?

[BamaFalcon59]

good first date locations?

Advice on the top of this page, bottom of last page.

[Brent]

good first date locations?
Bowling, walks, any where that allows you to talk. You have to be somewhere that allows her to talk. Talking is key. If you cant carry a conversation, she'll drop you. Girls love a guy that can carry a conversation. Things like bowling will help because you can laugh about sucking or if you are good you can joke about being awesome. Ice skating works in the same way. You're in Utah so skiing/snowboarding shouldn't be out of the question. You get the idea.