Relationship Advice Thread

[jballa838]

Bowling, walks, any where that allows you to talk. You have to be somewhere that allows her to talk. Talking is key. If you cant carry a conversation, she'll drop you. Girls love a guy that can carry a conversation. Things like bowling will help because you can laugh about sucking or if you are good you can joke about being awesome. Ice skating works in the same way. You're in Utah so skiing/snowboarding shouldn't be out of the question. You get the idea.
I suck horribly at bowling so that might suck. And I can't ski or snowboard. Might go with the ice skating though.

[MetSox17]

I might be in the minority, but i think ice skating is DAMN boring to do on a date. If all you wanna do is talk, cut the B.S and go somewhere and talk. Go take a walk at the park, or go have a small lunch before doing something fun or something. But ice skating? It loses its luster after a few times around the rink, and if neither of you are good at skating, you're gonna be busier making sure you don't fall on your ass than the conversation at hand. I think it's a good idea, but if you go as a group, which is never a bad choice.

[Zyro_1014]

I suck horribly at bowling so that might suck. And I can't ski or snowboard. Might go with the ice skating though.

that could be a good thing! if you both suck, just joke about it the whole time. have some fun with it

[jballa838]

actually I forgot how much I hate the cold. To the point where I am applying to colleges out of the cold weather.

[Vikes99ej]

actually I forgot how much I hate the cold. To the point where I am applying to colleges out of the cold weather.

Have fun with that out of state tuition stuff.

[Brent]

Have fun with that out of state tuition stuff.
He's Mormon, the church will support them if they can't pay for it.

[Turtlepower]

actually I forgot how much I hate the cold. To the point where I am applying to colleges out of the cold weather.

ASU, ASU, ASU, ASU!!!!!

[yourfavestoner]

actually I forgot how much I hate the cold. To the point where I am applying to colleges out of the cold weather.

Do it. It's worth it. You'll never want to go back to the cold. It's been in the 70s every day for the past three weeks out here in SoCal.

Glad we settled that. And while we're here, with the college application season wrapping up, allow me to make my annual case for everyone to apply to warm-weather schools. Don't spend four years in cold weather. There's no reason. Go south, go west, but go. And if they have a good sports team, even better.

I know people who attended the following schools: Pepperdine, the University of California at Santa Barbara, USC, UCLA, Rollins, North Carolina, Arizona, Arizona State and the University of Texas. Here's how many of them regretted their choices: Zero. Meanwhile, the majority of my friends attended cold-weather schools … and only a handful of them would travel down that same road again. Again, why spend four years of your life in cold weather when you don't have to do it? And why pick a college with crummy sports when you don't have to do it? Beyond everything else, remember this above all: It doesn't matter where you went to college as much as what you did when you got there. I have successful friends who went to every type of school; I even have successful friends who never graduated from college. So don't stress out about it, expand your horizons, don't be afraid to take a chance and please know that I'm telling you this only because I wish somebody had told me.

[Turtlepower]

Don't got to University of Arizona. It is in Tucson, which is also referred to as Northern Nogales.

[comahan]

I like the cold much more than the warm/hot -_-

[someone447]

I like the cold much more than the warm/hot -_-

You, my friend, are just plain crazy. I'll take 110 degree weather over 0 degree weather, much less -35 like it got for a few days.

[Zyro_1014]

You, my friend, are just plain crazy. I'll take 110 degree weather over 0 degree weather, much less -35 like it got for a few days.

yeah! you'll get a great tan while you're there! :)

[Danishfalcon]

Yeah, a movie and back is lame. No conversation. Movie and eating is a little better.

Dang, i wish i read this a day ago. This may be why i've had little, to no luck lately! I just invited this girl out this friday, and the only thing i could think of was the movies. On the other hand, i met her in a bar a week ago, and we talked a lot! This might be the first time in quite some time i've hooked up with a girl while i'm not drunk. So it might work out afterall.

[BamaFalcon59]

Dang, i wish i read this a day ago. This may be why i've had little, to no luck lately! I just invited this girl out this friday, and the only thing i could think of was the movies. On the other hand, i met her in a bar a week ago, and we talked a lot! This might be the first time in quite some time i've hooked up with a girl while i'm not drunk. So it might work out afterall.

Well, I'm probably not the best guy to listen too.

My luck hasn't been great lately either.

[Danishfalcon]

Well, I'm probably not the best guy to listen too.

My luck hasn't been great lately either.

Haha, that's too bad.

She does seem pretty high on the thought of going to the movies, so who knows? I plan on inviting her out for a drink after the movie, and hopefully bring her home to my place.. or hers ;). I was so close after the first time i met her, and if i pushed it, i bet i could have sealed the deal, but i really like this one, so i didn't.

[bsaza2358]

The movies is such a lame date. You don't talk, if the movie sucks, the date sucks. Why can't you just get dinner and go for a walk? Or play pool/darts? You can always cook her dinner if you can, but that's more a second date thing. I would try to replan the date to go to a hookah bar or something cool. It'll be decently cheap, and you'll get "cool" points. If you guys talked a lot at the bar that night, why take away from that with going to a movie?

[Danishfalcon]

The movies is such a lame date. You don't talk, if the movie sucks, the date sucks. Why can't you just get dinner and go for a walk? Or play pool/darts? You can always cook her dinner if you can, but that's more a second date thing. I would try to replan the date to go to a hookah bar or something cool. It'll be decently cheap, and you'll get "cool" points. If you guys talked a lot at the bar that night, why take away from that with going to a movie?

I guess i wasn't thinking this through.

I think she will get the wrong thoughts if i try to replan now. I just talked to her less than an hour ago.
Actully i did plan on cooking her dinner, but like you said, this might be more like a 2nd date thing.

Alright, i just changed the plans a little. We're still going to the movies, but an early show and then we'll go for a drink in a pool bar. I'm pretty sure this will work out. Btw, she is pumped on seeing this movie.

ps. i just want this to work out so much! Cute, super sweet, and get this, she loooves football (yes american, i'm from Denmark). How hard do you think it was to find a girl that likes that?

[bsaza2358]

Well, if she's excited to see the movie, and you have plans for after, it's all good. Of course, if you have a similar movie back at your place, you can transition. It's all about the transition. Get her to the bar, then invite her back to your place to watch something else or drink something else. Obviously, that means sex or action...

In terms of prep work for your room: Clean sheets (preferably your softest and most comfortable), do all your laundry and get it in the drawers. Air out your room because no one wants to hook up in boy funk. Vaccuum your place and sweep up. Clean your toilet, floor, and sink. Don't bother with the shower. Just close the shower curtain. In your kitchen, throw out all the bad food and have beer and wine on hand. Doesn't have to be expensive. Just something. Do a dish wash.

Invariably, she's gonna poke around and see what you've got going on. Keep everything clean and together, so she thinks you're not a total animal.

[Danishfalcon]

Well, if she's excited to see the movie, and you have plans for after, it's all good. Of course, if you have a similar movie back at your place, you can transition. It's all about the transition. Get her to the bar, then invite her back to your place to watch something else or drink something else. Obviously, that means sex or action...

In terms of prep work for your room: Clean sheets (preferably your softest and most comfortable), do all your laundry and get it in the drawers. Air out your room because no one wants to hook up in boy funk. Vaccuum your place and sweep up. Clean your toilet, floor, and sink. Don't bother with the shower. Just close the shower curtain. In your kitchen, throw out all the bad food and have beer and wine on hand. Doesn't have to be expensive. Just something. Do a dish wash.

Invariably, she's gonna poke around and see what you've got going on. Keep everything clean and together, so she thinks you're not a total animal.

Luckily all done. I'm usually fairly strict about getting my apartment too messy. I already have rose wine and Champagne (..leftovers from New Year).

Right now i'm trying to order movie tickets. Is it too corny to order backrow seats?

Btw thanks guys. Your tips are great. They might clarify why i've been quite unsuccesful lately.

[bsaza2358]

Champagne is over the top. Rose wine is an acquired taste. I'd have a standard bottle of red and white on hand. White in the fridge and chilled. Red ready to go.

I think you just get tickets, and then you let her pick the locale. If you're getting action, you're getting action no matter where the seats are.

[bsaza2358]

I've made every mistake and gone through the same dry spells as all of you, but I'm 28. I've been in 2 long term relationships, and I've slayed my fair share of strange. I'd like to think that I can help some of you younger guys not make the same mistakes. At the same time, messing it all up is good life experience. You learn by trial and error sometimes...

[Danishfalcon]

Champagne is over the top. Rose wine is an acquired taste. I'd have a standard bottle of red and white on hand. White in the fridge and chilled. Red ready to go.

I think you just get tickets, and then you let her pick the locale. If you're getting action, you're getting action no matter where the seats are.


I'm pretty sure i'm getting some action. We kissed for like 4 hours the other day. Hell, my tongue was destroyed the following day ;).

The thing is, i'm afraid the movie will be sold out. I think i'll just order some tickets close to the back, but not the whole way. For me it seems a little corny if the theater is only half full, and we'll be sitting on the last row.

Again, thanks for all the advises. It's much appreciated. I've always been a dork when it comes to women. I seem to be pretty good at screwing up!

[MetSox17]

I guess i wasn't thinking this through.

I think she will get the wrong thoughts if i try to replan now. I just talked to her less than an hour ago.
Actully i did plan on cooking her dinner, but like you said, this might be more like a 2nd date thing.

Alright, i just changed the plans a little. We're still going to the movies, but an early show and then we'll go for a drink in a pool bar. I'm pretty sure this will work out. Btw, she is pumped on seeing this movie.

ps. i just want this to work out so much! Cute, super sweet, and get this, she loooves football (yes american, i'm from Denmark). How hard do you think it was to find a girl that likes that?

If you're really into the girl, i'd back off a bit on trying to get her to go home with you. As soon as you invite her to your place, she knows you're soliciting sex from her. If you REALLY want it to work out enough to where you can build a relationship off it, i'd back off the sex for now. If it's a hit and run, by all means, pull out all the stops.

[Danishfalcon]

If you're really into the girl, i'd back off a bit on trying to get her to go home with you. As soon as you invite her to your place, she knows you're soliciting sex from her. If you REALLY want it to work out enough to where you can build a relationship off it, i'd back off the sex for now. If it's a hit and run, by all means, pull out all the stops.


I won't push her. In fact, she was all over me the other day (the first day i met her). I followed her up to her door, and we kissed for about 15 minutes. She told me she really wanted to bring me up to her place, but i saw she was in doubt, so i said she shouldn't worry. Then i got her number, and she told me to remember to call her.. Which i did.

[bsaza2358]

Metsox, she already appears to be ready to go. Seems like an aggressive sort of gal. I like that.

In terms of what you have to do, you need to stay relaxed. It's obvious she likes you (anyone can see that), so you need to stay confident and relaxed. Take it slow in terms of inviting her back. You have the movie, then the bar. Hang out at the bar for a bit, then suggest more drinking at your place. Should be an easy pull.

[bsaza2358]

My man Danish is definitely in there. No question that if he doesn't do anything too stupid, he will break off a piece. BTW, stock up on condoms. No reason to get a disease or a baby.

[Danishfalcon]

My man Danish is definitely in there. No question that if he doesn't do anything too stupid, he will break off a piece. BTW, stock up on condoms. No reason to get a disease or a baby.

Dang man, i'm so a head of you. I bought a 10-pack yesterday ;)

[bsaza2358]

10 pack? Sounds ambitious! I like it!

[Brent]

think i'll just order some tickets close to the back, but not the whole way.
Did no one else catch this? I've never heard of a theater where your ticket has a seat number to go along with it.

[Danishfalcon]

10 pack? Sounds ambitious! I like it!

Haha. They didn't have smaller packs. But that's all right ! :)

[Danishfalcon]

Did no one else catch this? I've never heard of a theater where your ticket has a seat number to go along with it.

Really? That's typical in Denmark. In fact i've never seen the opposite.

[bsaza2358]

If you know how to make Toads in a Log, you'll get bigtime breakfast in bed points (followed by other things in bed).

[BamaFalcon59]

Did no one else catch this? I've never heard of a theater where your ticket has a seat number to go along with it.

I have.

Our best theatre is like that.

[bsaza2358]

In America, we sit where we please, first come, first serve.

[BamaFalcon59]

Alabama is America.

[someone447]

In America, we sit where we please, first come, first serve.

There is a movie theatre by me where you buy certain seats. But they also serve food and beer. The way I see it, I would rather just sneak a few beers in, rather than pay all that movie theatre markup on beer.

[SuperKevin]

In America, we sit where we please, first come, first serve.

Unless you're bigger than the person already sitting there.

[someone447]

Unless you're bigger than the person already sitting there.

My buddies and I had the best seats in the theatre for The Dark Knight, on opening night, and we didn't get to the theatre until 11:45. There was a big group of people blocking the line and not going, so we just walked to the front and were the first ones in the theatre.

[Brent]

yes american, i'm from Denmark
I am thrown off. Are you a Dane and living in America or she's an American living in Denmark?

There is a movie theatre by me where you buy certain seats. But they also serve food and beer. The way I see it, I would rather just sneak a few beers in, rather than pay all that movie theatre markup on beer.
Yeah, sounds like the Alamo Drafthouse in Austin but I was thinking like a Cinemark or one of those big chains.

[Danishfalcon]

I am thrown off. Are you a Dane and living in America or she's an American living in Denmark?

Haha, neither. I'm not sure where i gave you the impression of that. I'm a dane living in Denmark, and so is she. :) However i think all your advises are just as useful, al though i live on the wrong side of the pond. ;)

[terribletowel39]

What is Toads in a Log??

[bsaza2358]

Cut a hole in bread and drop the eggs in, then the eggs cool inside the hole. It's really yummy.

[terribletowel39]

How many eggs??

And to answer deangelo's question: I am dating a female older than me now. Good bit older. 19 yrs older to be exact. But so far it's going great and is the best relationship I have been in.

[bsaza2358]

COUGAR ALERT!!!! hahahaha I bet she's wild, though.

[terribletowel39]

COUGAR ALERT!!!! hahahaha I bet she's wild, though.
I'm 22. She is 41. Both in our primes. Lets just say that.

[bsaza2358]

Wonder what my buddy Steelers Girl thinks of this?

[fischbowl]

Cut a hole in bread and drop the eggs in, then the eggs cool inside the hole. It's really yummy.

That's Chicks In A Basket........

[Zyro_1014]

I'm 22. She is 41. Both in our primes. Lets just say that.

schnikes man, thats impressive lol

[BamaFalcon59]

That's Chicks In A Basket........

I thought that was eggs in a blanket?

[Danishfalcon]

I thought that was eggs in a blanket?

Either way, it sounds like a pretty good idea for a breakfast on the bed. :)

Depends on how well it goes, i might try this.

[d34ng3l021]

How many eggs??

And to answer deangelo's question: I am dating a female older than me now. Good bit older. 19 yrs older to be exact. But so far it's going great and is the best relationship I have been in.

haha there we go. its good to know that you and her are doing well.

[drowe]

i think we should lock this thread for the next week. really, nothing good can come from hooking up with a girl right before V-Day. ya go through all that effort, and, best case scenario, ya just wasted your A-game and have nothing for Holiday of Unfair Expectations.

wait 'til Feb 15th when all the single women are lonely and depressed about spending V-Day alone.

[Brent]

Wonder what my buddy Steelers Girl thinks of this?
Haven't seen her on here in forever. Aside from AQ, I dont think girls can handle the misogyny.

wait 'til Feb 15th when all the single women are lonely and depressed about spending V-Day alone.
Many wont be looking for love the next day, as they spent all of the 14th feeling sorry for themselves and eating feel-good food.

[bsaza2358]

V-Day is always a good time to score lonely, depressed chicks. Great time to score some girls out of your league or just casual scratch. They're usually drunk and desperate.

[Brent]

They're usually drunk and desperate.
My best friend's birthday is the 14th. It usually works out really well because there is always a party.

[MetSox17]

So for the second date you plan on sleeping over and making her breakfast?

[ATLDirtyBirds]

That's Chicks In A Basket........


That's Egg in a Frame.

[MetSox17]

That's Egg in a Frame.

That's sun in a casket.

[Danishfalcon]

So for the second date you plan on sleeping over and making her breakfast?

Was that directed to me?

If so. I just realized she has to get up pretty early on a job the next morning, so we'll see how it goes. I do plan on inviting her home to my place and making her dinner some day.


Btw my birthday is february the 13th, the day before V-day. I've always thought it was an overrated day, since it's not really 'our' tradition, but it's getting huge over here aswell. I did have some plans to go partying, but they're cancelled, so it better work out. ;)

[terribletowel39]

Wonder what my buddy Steelers Girl thinks of this?
She hasn't met her. SteelersGirl moved to Pittsburgh in November. So yea...she hasn't had the pleasure but knowing both of them, they would get along.

[someone447]

Haven't seen her on here in forever. Aside from AQ, I dont think girls can handle the misogyny.


No kidding, it gets really bad here sometimes. Rarely anything too overt, but 3/4ths the posts in this thread have undertones of misogyny(at least the ones dealing with actual questions.)

[bsaza2358]

Well, some of these younger guys revere women too much and disrespect themselves in the process. By flipping it and promoting women as less worthy of the high praise they are getting from these kids, we are promoting confidence and an attitude that is needed for them to grow from newbie to boyfriend. I'm sure I have been plenty misogynistic, but some of it is deserved based on the scenarios and some of it is humor. The rest of it is resentment.

[Brent]

I'm sure I have been plenty misogynistic, but some of it is deserved based on the scenarios and some of it is humor. The rest of it is resentment.
Well, I think with girls in that 15-18 age group that the HS kids are dealing with, it's easy for those of us that are 4-8 years old than them to be a bit misogynistic because we know that those girls aren't anywhere near the maturity level of a girl in mid-twenties or older. I mean, looking at the way girls acted at my HS when I was there, I'm surprised I was even attracted to some of them because I wouldn't have been able to handle their stupid drama.

[BamaFalcon59]

Well, I think with girls in that 15-18 age group that the HS kids are dealing with, it's easy for those of us that are 4-8 years old than them to be a bit misogynistic because we know that those girls aren't anywhere near the maturity level of a girl in mid-twenties or older. I mean, looking at the way girls acted at my HS when I was there, I'm surprised I was even attracted to some of them because I wouldn't have been able to handle their stupid drama.

I'm a junior, and I've began to not be drawn to most of the girls in the school. Too much ******** with them.

[someone447]

Well, some of these younger guys revere women too much and disrespect themselves in the process. By flipping it and promoting women as less worthy of the high praise they are getting from these kids, we are promoting confidence and an attitude that is needed for them to grow from newbie to boyfriend. I'm sure I have been plenty misogynistic, but some of it is deserved based on the scenarios and some of it is humor. The rest of it is resentment.

All they need to do is realize women are people too. They don't need to degrade them and what not. Once you realize women have the same feelings we do, it makes it a lot easier.

[bsaza2358]

Women have similar goals, but they think differently and act in such a way that can be counterproductive to getting what both people want. Men are exactly the same. However, it can be healthy to vent frustrations about the opposite sex and solicit advice.

[awfullyquiet]

I'm a junior, and I've began to not be drawn to most of the girls in the school. Too much ******** with them.

you'll end up having an inordinate love for shiny antique toaster, cats, and books by authors who's last name begins with x.

[BamaFalcon59]

you'll end up having an inordinate love for shiny antique toaster, cats, and books by authors who's last name begins with x.

What?

I'm just sayin most of them bring too much **** to the table. Maybe not older ones, but the ones in my highschool yes.

[Brent]

you'll end up having an inordinate love for shiny antique toaster, cats, and books by authors who's last name begins with x.
X. J. Kennedy or Malcolm X? Those are all I can think of.

[someone447]

Women have similar goals, but they think differently and act in such a way that can be counterproductive to getting what both people want. Men are exactly the same. However, it can be healthy to vent frustrations about the opposite sex and solicit advice.

Venting is fine, in fact, it is healthy. It is the posts that just ooze misogyny that I was talking about.

Yes, men and women are different, but at their cores, they are both just people. As soon as someone realizes that, they are in a much better position than a lot of people.

[bsaza2358]

I'm sure that plenty of women take similar stances towards men, but they still want to be with and date and screw men. It is an ongoing battle of the sexes. I know that women have it tough in our world. Less pay for the same work, body image pressures all the time, their clothes cost way more, makeup, bras, and social norms that expect them to be submissive. Men have it much easier in many ways. At the same time, does that mean we're supposed to put up with BS and drama that is unnecessary? Absolutely not. I would say the same for women having to put up with men.

[awfullyquiet]

I'm sure that plenty of women take similar stances towards men, but they still want to be with and date and screw men. It is an ongoing battle of the sexes. I know that women have it tough in our world. Less pay for the same work, body image pressures all the time, their clothes cost way more, makeup, bras, and social norms that expect them to be submissive. Men have it much easier in many ways. At the same time, does that mean we're supposed to put up with BS and drama that is unnecessary? Absolutely not. I would say the same for women having to put up with men.

bingo. let me be the first to say, men create bs and drama as well. you may not realize it, but to us. you do.

[awfullyquiet]

Venting is fine, in fact, it is healthy. It is the posts that just ooze misogyny that I was talking about.

Yes, men and women are different, but at their cores, they are both just people. As soon as someone realizes that, they are in a much better position than a lot of people.

lol. misogyny breeds chauvinism. what's the root of misogyny? fear.

drink beer. watch nascar. fear the vag.

[Brent]

bingo. let me be the first to say, men create bs and drama as well. you may not realize it, but to us. you do.
I should break out some of my Linguistics books, I had to read like 4 of them that covered male/female communications and the subsequent problems resulting from it haha. It's all about positive and negative face. Well, that and your conversational agenda.

[bsaza2358]

Oh, I'm well aware that men help create the problems. The ongoing and never-ending battle of the sexes provides plenty of humor, strife, entertainment, intrigue, pain, and amazement. Part of why our species continues on through the ages.

[yourfavestoner]

So this girl that I'm semi-interested in (first one in awhile) slapped me last Friday and punched me in the jaw last night. I think she likes me.

[bsaza2358]

So this girl that I'm semi-interested in (first one in awhile) slapped me last Friday and punched me in the jaw last night. I think she likes me.

Hot. What did you do to precipitate the striking?

[yourfavestoner]

Hot. What did you do to precipitate the striking?

Well, she's got a guy that she's "seeing." I don't think of that as any more than a speedbump on my way to the finish line, but this guy is a douche on top of it. And he was with her at the place we were at Friday night. Everyone was really drunk, and she was being super flirty with me all night so I guess I tried to hook up with her twice right in front of him. That initiated the slaps.

Last night we were all at a bar. Somebody in our party dipped out on the tab. She says: "I bet it was you that didn't pay, d1ck."
"**** you, b1tch. I paid. My card is right there, so give it back to me."
"Don't call me b1tch, you ******* d1ck."
"Why not b1tch? You're the one who keeps calling me d1ck and accused me of not paying for a bill that I very clearly paid for?"
"Why not? You wanna ******* see why not?"
"Yeah b1tch. I'd like to see why not."
And then she socked me in the face in the middle of the bar.

She's a feisty redhead, and I've always been a sucker for those.

[bsaza2358]

I actually think she might like you. Crazy as it sounds.

[Danishfalcon]

Hot. What did you do to precipitate the striking?

Oh yeah btw here's a little update:
We had the date yesterday, in stead of today (her suggestion ;)), and we had a blast. Unfortunately she had some pretty early classes today, so i didn't spend the whole night at her place, if you know i'm saying!

Well, right now, she's on her way to my apartment, and let's see what's going to happen. :)

.. i better get ready.

[yourfavestoner]

I actually think she might like you. Crazy as it sounds.

I think so too. I don't think I'd attract that much attention from her (even if it's negative attention) if she didn't. I'm pretty much just waiting for the chump to get dumped, but that shouldn't take too long anyways. This guy is notorious for pulling really hot girls and then getting dumped by them because they end up thinking he's *** or really annoying or both.

[Zyro_1014]

I think so too. I don't think I'd attract that much attention from her (even if it's negative attention) if she didn't. I'm pretty much just waiting for the chump to get dumped, but that shouldn't take too long anyways. This guy is notorious for pulling really hot girls and then getting dumped by them because they end up thinking he's *** or really annoying or both.

GIT SOME MAN!

also sick sig bro.

[bsaza2358]

I think so too. I don't think I'd attract that much attention from her (even if it's negative attention) if she didn't. I'm pretty much just waiting for the chump to get dumped, but that shouldn't take too long anyways. This guy is notorious for pulling really hot girls and then getting dumped by them because they end up thinking he's *** or really annoying or both.

Well, I would think that when it finally goes down, it's going to be crazy aggressive. Back scratched and everything. Probably pretty impromptu as well. I'm not sure how you can necessarily push the angle, but wait out the other dude and pounce when he dumps her.

[awfullyquiet]

Oh, I'm well aware that men help create the problems. The ongoing and never-ending battle of the sexes provides plenty of humor, strife, entertainment, intrigue, pain, and amazement. Part of why our species continues on through the ages.

to us. part of it is called 'mystery and intrigue'

keeping the romance is holding onto a little bit of all those things.
that and not being a douchebag.

[bsaza2358]

Most guys are douchebags, most girls are insecure. We're all a little crazy (at the very least). Relationships are just a matter of finding the person who makes you the least insane.

[GET LOOSE]

Most guys are douchebags, most girls are insecure. We're all a little crazy (at the very least). Relationships are just a matter of finding the person who makes you the least insane.

Or the one that would make you think atleast twice before pulling out your desert eagle. Lol yea everyone is crazy in there own way some just a lot more then others

['cuse-213]

Well, I would think that when it finally goes down, it's going to be crazy aggressive. Back scratched and everything. Probably pretty impromptu as well. I'm not sure how you can necessarily push the angle, but wait out the other dude and pounce when he dumps her.

LOL, thats what I was thinking. Should be fun.

[irishbucsfan]

I'm ******* sick of relationships. There need to be a lot more caves and a lot more people just living alone in them. No complications.

[GET LOOSE]

I'm ******* sick of relationships. There need to be a lot more caves and a lot more people just living alone in them. No complications.

Its easy to live life that way but you will never gain anything from living with that attitude.

[irishbucsfan]

Its easy to live life that way but you will never gain anything from living with that attitude.

You never get emotionally and physically draining sagas that way either.

[Brent]

You never get emotionally and physically draining sagas that way either.
That's part of the unique human experience though. I'd rather live through the highs and lows that are offered over the course of my life and become a better person through it than just live some existence where I never do anything that could lead to my feelings being hurt.

[GET LOOSE]

You never get emotionally and physically draining sagas that way either.

Agreed but I belive that with all the emotions and everything you battle through it only makes you stronger. Sure you will never get hurt or have to deal with all the bs but you wont ever open yourself and find that one that will make you happier then anything has ever before. Now im not in love with anyone and for ahwile I wanted to give up especially when I fell for this girl and it all went so wrong but I do know true love is something I want for when I get old and cant play football anymore or do anything that makes me happy now.

[irishbucsfan]

I've been through, and continue to go through, the highs and lows of love and life. I don't feel a better person for it, I feel more messed up. I just want some damn simplicity.

[GET LOOSE]

I've been through, and continue to go through, the highs and lows of love and life. I don't feel a better person for it, I feel more messed up. I just want some damn simplicity.

Well your not going to feel it at the moment your hurts that would be inhuman. But when its all said and done you will feel stronger and wiser. After my really only though expirence of so called "love" I was really hurt for awhile but now I feel stronger and can see right through the fake girls that just like to play mind games. I learned from my mistakes

[irishbucsfan]

Well your not going to feel it at the moment your hurts that would be inhuman. But when its all said and done you will feel stronger and wiser. After my really only though expirence of so called "love" I was really hurt for awhile but now I feel stronger and can see right through the fake girls that just like to play mind games. I learned from my mistakes

To be clear, it's complications I'm raging against. When two people love each other, it should get simpler. No ongoing sagas. Now, simpler doesn't mean easier. I know things get hard. The point is you want to share the hard times and the good times with someone. If they feel the same way, it's celebration time. I'm just sick of things getting in the way.

[GET LOOSE]

To be clear, it's complications I'm raging against. When two people love each other, it should get simpler. No ongoing sagas. Now, simpler doesn't mean easier. I know things get hard. The point is you want to share the hard times and the good times with someone. If they feel the same way, it's celebration time. I'm just sick of things getting in the way.

Do you wanna explain your situation? I could probally give some advice

[irishbucsfan]

So disgustingly complicated. Two people who have, against all odds, at separate times over the past few years thought the other was the person they wanted to spend the rest of their life with, the person they are meant to be with. Which is incredible considering the age and level of cynicism of these people. But there always seems something in the way. In a few months we will be finishing pre med and going on to different clinical schools, and that put enough stress on the situation that there was a massive massive ugly fight and the possibility of a friendship being salvaged is minimal.

[GET LOOSE]

So disgustingly complicated. Two people who have, against all odds, at separate times over the past few years thought the other was the person they wanted to spend the rest of their life with, the person they are meant to be with. Which is incredible considering the age and level of cynicism of these people. But there always seems something in the way. In a few months we will be finishing pre med and going on to different clinical schools, and that put enough stress on the situation that there was a massive massive ugly fight and the possibility of a friendship being salvaged is minimal.

The best thing to do is ask yourself is she worth it. If the answer is yes then you have to sit down with her and talk to her about all this. You gotta be fully honest and explain to her how you feel and ask her why she is always letting something in the way between you 2.

[irishbucsfan]

It's both sides, me ******* up more than her, usually because of miscommunication and confusion. It's just painfully obvious how we fit, but circumstances always seem to be in the way, and it's wearying.

[GET LOOSE]

It's both sides, me ******* up more than her, usually because of miscommunication and confusion. It's just painfully obvious how we fit, but circumstances always seem to be in the way, and it's wearying.

I understand. There are always hardships in life and some problems are going to be a lot thougher then other. If it was meant to be it will find a way to work itself out with a little effort and some hard work. Just hang in there and make sure you put her first if shes important enough to you

[irishbucsfan]

I try. It's tough. I can only do my best, be honest, and admit to my mistakes. Thanks though.

[GET LOOSE]

I try. It's tough. I can only do my best, be honest, and admit to my mistakes. Thanks though.

No problem man just do what will make you happy

[someone447]

I try. It's tough. I can only do my best, be honest, and admit to my mistakes. Thanks though.

How old are you? 22-23? If so, don't sweat it too much. College relationships rarely work out anyways. Why do you think the divorce rate is so high? So many people getting married in their early 20s when they hardly know themselves, much less someone else.

I'm only 22, but I already know life doesn't ever get simpler. Maybe I'm just cynical, but I don't think its possible to have a simple life. If you live in a cave as a hermit, you have to deal with the loneliness that comes from humans being social animals, and you bucking that. Nothing in life will ever be simple, nor should it. But, then again, I am a jaded, cynical asshole. So take it for what its worth.

[irishbucsfan]

How old are you? 22-23? If so, don't sweat it too much. College relationships rarely work out anyways. Why do you think the divorce rate is so high? So many people getting married in their early 20s when they hardly know themselves, much less someone else.

I'm only 22, but I already know life doesn't ever get simpler. Maybe I'm just cynical, but I don't think its possible to have a simple life. If you live in a cave as a hermit, you have to deal with the loneliness that comes from humans being social animals, and you bucking that. Nothing in life will ever be simple, nor should it. But, then again, I am a jaded, cynical asshole. So take it for what its worth.


I agree with you, I know life doesn't get simpler. I'm only 20, and I already find myself looking back wistfully. Which may bode badly. I am also a massive cynic, which a scientific mind who doesn't really believe in much other than what I can see and can be proven to me.

So you can imagine my shock, when I didn't really believe in soulmates and had a massive mental block on thinking about anything like marriage for the next decade at least, met someone and after some time it hit me that I thought they were actually 'the one'. It's ridiculous, I know. So young, so cynical. But the fact that I still thought that way almost strengthened it for me, because I was like hey, if I still think this despite the significant barriers that were in the way of me taking this seriously, then it must be pretty special.

[someone447]

I agree with you, I know life doesn't get simpler. I'm only 20, and I already find myself looking back wistfully. Which may bode badly. I am also a massive cynic, which a scientific mind who doesn't really believe in much other than what I can see and can be proven to me.

So you can imagine my shock, when I didn't really believe in soulmates and had a massive mental block on thinking about anything like marriage for the next decade at least, met someone and after some time it hit me that I thought they were actually 'the one'. It's ridiculous, I know. So young, so cynical. But the fact that I still thought that way almost strengthened it for me, because I was like hey, if I still think this despite the significant barriers that were in the way of me taking this seriously, then it must be pretty special.

I'm the same way, but all that means is that you will find someone again. There isn't a single "soulmate" for everyone. There are 250+million people in this country. There are thousands and thousands of women who could be your "soulmate" if met at the right time. No reason to look back wistfully, life only gets better from here, as long as you let it. As long as you do what makes you happy, and not what you are expected to do, life will only get better as it goes along.

[irishbucsfan]

I'm the same way, but all that means is that you will find someone again. There isn't a single "soulmate" for everyone. There are 250+million people in this country. There are thousands and thousands of women who could be your "soulmate" if met at the right time. No reason to look back wistfully, life only gets better from here, as long as you let it. As long as you do what makes you happy, and not what you are expected to do, life will only get better as it goes along.


I dunno. It's impossible to see it that way when you're in the middle of those feelings. If you felt you could spend the rest of your life with someone, but a part of you said, but I bet there are other people I could spend the rest of my life with, it would be impossible not to reevaluate your feelings. A statement or view like that detracts from them a lot. Part of how crap it is right now is that I can see it slipping away while being overwhelmed at the potential.

[GET LOOSE]

I'm the same way, but all that means is that you will find someone again. There isn't a single "soulmate" for everyone. There are 250+million people in this country. There are thousands and thousands of women who could be your "soulmate" if met at the right time. No reason to look back wistfully, life only gets better from here, as long as you let it. As long as you do what makes you happy, and not what you are expected to do, life will only get better as it goes along.

I dont agree with that. Now dont get me wrong im not saying theres not many girls a man can fall for but I belive there is only one girl made for each man. And some end up with that one and some lose out and will never find true love. Thats just my opinion but I dont belive many people find true love

[yourfavestoner]

To be clear, it's complications I'm raging against. When two people love each other, it should get simpler. No ongoing sagas. Now, simpler doesn't mean easier. I know things get hard. The point is you want to share the hard times and the good times with someone. If they feel the same way, it's celebration time. I'm just sick of things getting in the way.

Instead of being a raging cynic here's what you do: take what you've learned and really make yourself a smarter person from it. I know common sense tells you that if two people love each other, things should get simpler. What you have to understand, is that at the age you're at a lot of us tend to fall in love with people we're not compatible with. And that's what makes things incredibly difficult and emotional. When you're 20 years old, each relationship you have has to come with the understanding that you both REALLY don't know what you like in the opposite sex. You're still trying to figure it out. Sure, have sex with them, date them, whatever works for you, but don't invest yourself totally into another person at such a young age. You have to find out what you are really looking for in the opposite sex and that takes years and years of dating to figure out.

Of course, every man hears this and it always falls on deaf ears. You have to go out there and get burned a few times before you can really get it. And some guys stay suckers their whole lives, falling "in love" with every girl willing to suck their dick.

[someone447]

Instead of being a raging cynic here's what you do: take what you've learned and really make yourself a smarter person from it. I know common sense tells you that if two people love each other, things should get simpler. What you have to understand, is that at the age you're at a lot of us tend to fall in love with people we're not compatible with. And that's what makes things incredibly difficult and emotional. When you're 20 years old, each relationship you have has to come with the understanding that you both REALLY don't know what you like in the opposite sex. You're still trying to figure it out. Sure, have sex with them, date them, whatever works for you, but don't invest yourself totally into another person at such a young age. You have to find out what you are really looking for in the opposite sex and that takes years and years of dating to figure out.

Of course, every man hears this and it always falls on deaf ears. You have to go out there and get burned a few times before you can really get it. And some guys stay suckers their whole lives, falling "in love" with every girl willing to suck their dick.

Exactly, most young people have a lot of trouble differentiating love and sex. I know I used to.

I dunno. It's impossible to see it that way when you're in the middle of those feelings. If you felt you could spend the rest of your life with someone, but a part of you said, but I bet there are other people I could spend the rest of my life with, it would be impossible not to reevaluate your feelings. A statement or view like that detracts from them a lot. Part of how crap it is right now is that I can see it slipping away while being overwhelmed at the potential.

You are 20 years old, every relationship you have will have a lot of potential, thats just the way it goes when you are young. I was "in love" once. I thought the girl was perfect for me. She sure as hell wasn't. But at the time, I couldn't see it. I was too caught up in the feelings I got from the sex. We were in no way compatible, but I thought we were meant for each other. The relationship wasn't easy at all, and it ended ugly. It ended up ******* me up for a couple years. Don't let that happen to you. Take this as a learning experience. It hurts like hell, but you will realize that this girl wasn't the end all be all of your world.

[awfullyquiet]

Exactly, most young people have a lot of trouble differentiating love and sex. I know I used to.

that's why i advocate against children having sex until they're 22.

emotionally, for the most part. high schoolers can't handle it.

[someone447]

that's why i advocate against children having sex until they're 22.

emotionally, for the most part. high schoolers can't handle it.

oops, misread your post. I thought you said have CHILDREN at 22. So I wrote a whole long post about how 22 year olds aren't remotely ready.

I disagree. If you delay it until you are older, you will just get those same feelings at a later age. I am incredibly happy I had sex while in high school. I am also grateful I got burned by the same girl. It is much better to have gotten burned at 18 then it is at 35 with two kids. It forced me to see people for who they are, not for who I wanted them to be. I haven't came close to being burned again, and I highly doubt I will. It has forced me to be very picky about girls I would consider dating.

[Brent]

oops, misread your post. I thought you said have CHILDREN at 22. So I wrote a whole long post about how 22 year olds aren't remotely ready.

I disagree. If you delay it until you are older, you will just get those same feelings at a later age. I am incredibly happy I had sex while in high school. I am also grateful I got burned by the same girl. It is much better to have gotten burned at 18 then it is at 35 with two kids. It forced me to see people for who they are, not for who I wanted them to be. I haven't came close to being burned again, and I highly doubt I will. It has forced me to be very picky about girls I would consider dating.
She didnt say 22 before having kids, she said 22 before having sex:

that's why i advocate against children having sex until they're 22.

[yourfavestoner]

oops, misread your post. I thought you said have CHILDREN at 22. So I wrote a whole long post about how 22 year olds aren't remotely ready.

I disagree. If you delay it until you are older, you will just get those same feelings at a later age. I am incredibly happy I had sex while in high school. I am also grateful I got burned by the same girl. It is much better to have gotten burned at 18 then it is at 35 with two kids. It forced me to see people for who they are, not for who I wanted them to be. I haven't came close to being burned again, and I highly doubt I will. It has forced me to be very picky about girls I would consider dating.

Like I said, I think you and I are the same person.

[irishbucsfan]

I think some mistakes are being made in equating someone's youth with their propensity to confuse physical stuff for love. I haven't even mentioned sex. I think it would be ridiculous to think you have a connection with someone and that you are very compatible just because the sex is awesome. I'm talking about the love comes from someone knowing you better than you know yourself and still trusting you and caring, and vice versa.

[someone447]

I think some mistakes are being made in equating someone's youth with their propensity to confuse physical stuff for love. I haven't even mentioned sex. I think it would be ridiculous to think you have a connection with someone and that you are very compatible just because the sex is awesome. I'm talking about the love comes from someone knowing you better than you know yourself and still trusting you and caring, and vice versa.

That's what everybody thinks. Does what I say necessarily apply to your situation? No, but I would put big money that it does. It is less people's age and more peoples experience that causes them to equate sex and love.

You are twenty years old, you don't need to be in such a hurry to find your "true love." You don't even know yourself, much less other people. Do you even know what you want in a significant other? Do you even know what you want out of life? Relax and enjoy the ride, the journey is better than the ending.

[HawkeyeFan]

My girlfriend never got along with preps, and all her friends moved away to college, so she only had her friends who were boys.. and I didn't like the idea of her hanging with one of her friends (her ex) but I let her and they ended up cuddling...that was like 7 months ago (a few weeks into the relationship), so is it bad if I get jelous, or protective of her talking to other guys?

Considering I let my ex do it, and then she cheated on me..

I've been with this girl for 8 months now, and I love her to death, and I don't want heart broke, which I assume is why I get mad, well worked up when she texts other guys.. I'm naturally jelous, for what reason, I don't know.. I try not to be, but it happens.

Anyone else this way? Or know what to do to calm down about it?

[yourfavestoner]

My girlfriend never got along with preps, and all her friends moved away to college, so she only had her friends who were boys.. and I didn't like the idea of her hanging with one of her friends (her ex) but I let her and they ended up cuddling...that was like 7 months ago (a few weeks into the relationship), so is it bad if I get jelous, or protective of her talking to other guys?

Considering I let my ex do it, and then she cheated on me..

I've been with this girl for 8 months now, and I love her to death, and I don't want heart broke, which I assume is why I get mad, well worked up when she texts other guys.. I'm naturally jelous, for what reason, I don't know.. I try not to be, but it happens.

Anyone else this way? Or know what to do to calm down about it?

Wow, your situation is pretty ****** my dude. Get out while you still can.

[HawkeyeFan]

Wow, your situation is pretty ****** my dude. Get out while you still can.

She hasn't done anything since then, and she's gotten alot better, she works at a resturant and these guys tipped 100% so she texted saying thank you, and then they wouldn't stop texting her, atleast now they did.

I told her, stop it or I'm gone.. So she stopped haha

[Brent]

Wow, your situation is pretty ****** my dude. Get out while you still can.
Seconded, she sounds like she has the potential for monogamy problems.

[TimD]

wow those guys are pathetic if they need to tip 100% to get girls to talk to them. haha

[yourfavestoner]

She hasn't done anything since then, and she's gotten alot better, she works at a resturant and these guys tipped 100% so she texted saying thank you, and then they wouldn't stop texting her, atleast now they did.

I told her, stop it or I'm gone.. So she stopped haha

And how exactly did they get each others phone numbers?

Come on dude. Get your head out of the sand.

[vidae]

And how exactly did they get each others phone numbers?

Come on dude. Get your head out of the sand.

I was going to ask the same thing. She gave our her number. I'm not sure there is long term relationship material there and even if there is, is she really who you want it to be with?

As for the other topic, I just got out of a serious relationship myself. I'm 26 and I thought she was the "one" too, but she's the second "one" I've had. It gets easier and it gets harder, if that makes sense. You just gotta push through it and learn something from every relationship otherwise you'll sit there and blame yourself for everything and never really grow.

It won't be easy and it won't be fun but you'll be a better person for it later. At least that's what I keep telling myself. We broke up about a month ago. ;)

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

wow those guys are pathetic if they need to tip 100% to get girls to talk to them. haha

DG tips 400% for eye contact.

[bsaza2358]

My girlfriend never got along with preps, and all her friends moved away to college, so she only had her friends who were boys.. and I didn't like the idea of her hanging with one of her friends (her ex) but I let her and they ended up cuddling...that was like 7 months ago (a few weeks into the relationship), so is it bad if I get jelous, or protective of her talking to other guys?

Considering I let my ex do it, and then she cheated on me..

I've been with this girl for 8 months now, and I love her to death, and I don't want heart broke, which I assume is why I get mad, well worked up when she texts other guys.. I'm naturally jelous, for what reason, I don't know.. I try not to be, but it happens.

Anyone else this way? Or know what to do to calm down about it?

I would say you're in a situation where you're completely whipped, and your gf knows it. I can't say for sure if she feels the same, but the fact that she got the # of customers and bothered to text them to say "thank you" implies that she wasn't only interested in that. Perhaps she attempted to cheat with one or more of these guys, then the guy turned out to be a creep, so she told you. Or, she told you because she already had and wanted to come "clean" about it. I don't have a good feeling about this.

For instance, I had a really cute and fun waitress at lunch yesterday. I asked for her #, and she said that I was cute and funny, but she had a bf. She didn't take my # or give me hers. She was happy with her bf, and that's fine.

Point being: There's no reason for her to ever text a stranger if she's committed to you. If you can't trust her, you need to get out.

[bsaza2358]

With Valentine's Day rapidly approaching, I'm bumping the thread.

[vikes_28]

My girlfriend never got along with preps, and all her friends moved away to college, so she only had her friends who were boys.. and I didn't like the idea of her hanging with one of her friends (her ex) but I let her and they ended up cuddling...that was like 7 months ago (a few weeks into the relationship), so is it bad if I get jelous, or protective of her talking to other guys?

Considering I let my ex do it, and then she cheated on me..

I've been with this girl for 8 months now, and I love her to death, and I don't want heart broke, which I assume is why I get mad, well worked up when she texts other guys.. I'm naturally jelous, for what reason, I don't know.. I try not to be, but it happens.

Anyone else this way? Or know what to do to calm down about it?

Hey man.

I know exactly how you feel. I have been dating my girlfriend for 6 months now. And at the beginning of the relationship she was having some troubles getting over an ex. Eventually the guy she is texting will get bored with texting her because he figures out that he won't get anything from her since she is dating you. Thats the same situation I was in. And i just stayed with it. It also doesn't help when I'm dating my best friends ex. On another level, he apologized to her right before Christmas and said that he was sorry for being such a jerk to her. And he wanted to re-establish their friendship. And all I said to her is that i wasn't going to have it. And i said that I would break up with her if she kept talking to him. And it worked. I'm still friends with the guy. And now he deleted her phone number because she never talks to him anymore.

It's just kind of a trial and error thing, but if its love and you know it then stick with it, and you wear the pants in that relationship, don't let her push you around.

[someone447]

Hey man.

I know exactly how you feel. I have been dating my girlfriend for 6 months now. And at the beginning of the relationship she was having some troubles getting over an ex. Eventually the guy she is texting will get bored with texting her because he figures out that he won't get anything from her since she is dating you. Thats the same situation I was in. And i just stayed with it. It also doesn't help when I'm dating my best friends ex. On another level, he apologized to her right before Christmas and said that he was sorry for being such a jerk to her. And he wanted to re-establish their friendship. And all I said to her is that i wasn't going to have it. And i said that I would break up with her if she kept talking to him. And it worked. I'm still friends with the guy. And now he deleted her phone number because she never talks to him anymore.

It's just kind of a trial and error thing, but if its love and you know it then stick with it, and you wear the pants in that relationship, don't let her push you around.

My approach is completely different. I don't give a **** who she talks to. Hell I don't mind if she goes dancing at a club. Because I know that at the end of the night she is coming home to me, and thats what really matters.

The time I have been cheated on is when I was insecure and did what you guys did, get jealous and tell her to stop talking to him.

[d34ng3l021]

Yeah its stupid to get jealous about other guys when you are in a relationship. She is dating you for a reason and you have that over them. And I dont think girls like to be doubted like that.

[Vikes99ej]

It's so ******* easy to be jealous.

[d34ng3l021]

Its so easy for both sexes. One of my friend's bf is somewhat jealous of me and whenever he makes sarcastic remarks about how much she and I hang out, she always gets upset/frustrated at him. My other friend has been in a long distance relationship for 4 years and has been absolutely paranoid lately and has been snooping around his facebook and reading the conversations he has had with his guy friends regarding this other girl.

Its so hard not to be jealous. Its almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Jealously spawns easily because you think the girl might like someone else, even though she doesn't. This is such a natural feeling for some people and its hard not to be. You begin to act differently towards her because of that. All of a sudden, she just might end up liking someone else because of the way you act. Maybe not to that extreme, but it definitely complicates things.

You really have to let yourself go and put absolute trust in whatever you and your significant other have in order to not be jealous.

This is all just my opinion.

[someone447]

Its so easy for both sexes. One of my friend's bf is somewhat jealous of me and whenever he makes sarcastic remarks about how much she and I hang out, she always gets upset/frustrated at him. My other friend has been in a long distance relationship for 4 years and has been absolutely paranoid lately and has been snooping around his facebook and reading the conversations he has had with his guy friends regarding this other girl.

Its so hard not to be jealous. Its almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Jealously spawns easily because you think the girl might like someone else, even though she doesn't. This is such a natural feeling for some people and its hard not to be. You begin to act differently towards her because of that. All of a sudden, she just might end up liking someone else because of the way you act. Maybe not to that extreme, but it definitely complicates things.

You really have to let yourself go and put absolute trust in whatever you and your significant other have in order to not be jealous.

This is all just my opinion.

I don't put absolute trust in anyone but myself.

See, the reason I don't get jealous is because if she is putting herself in those types of situations, the relationship has no future anyway, so I might as well just have fun and not worry about it. I would want to know sooner, rather than later, that she is a *****.

Ain't no sense worrying about things you got no control over, because if you got no control over them, ain't no sense worrying.- MIckey Rivers

I think I may just be missing the jealousy gene. I got cheated on, and I wasn't even the slightest bit jealous. I was pissed, but not that someone else had her other than me, just that she betrayed my trust. Jealousy doesn't make sense to me.

[Eaglez.Fan]

wooppps wrong thread

[d34ng3l021]

I don't put absolute trust in anyone but myself.

See, the reason I don't get jealous is because if she is putting herself in those types of situations, the relationship has no future anyway, so I might as well just have fun and not worry about it. I would want to know sooner, rather than later, that she is a *****.

Ain't no sense worrying about things you got no control over, because if you got no control over them, ain't no sense worrying.- MIckey Rivers

I think I may just be missing the jealousy gene. I got cheated on, and I wasn't even the slightest bit jealous. I was pissed, but not that someone else had her other than me, just that she betrayed my trust. Jealousy doesn't make sense to me.

You're going to find someone that is going to change that.

[someone447]

You're going to find someone that is going to change that.

I'll find someone I love, but I will never trust anyone absolutely. Everyone is human, humans are not worthy of absolute trust. No one can live up to that. The only person I absolutely trust to do everything in interests is me. Everyone looks out for their own interests first.

No, I won't ever find someone who will make me jealous. I find jealousy to be a completely worthless emotion, one that does more harm than good. So if I do find someone who can get me jealous, the relationship will end, because it isn't healthy for either person.

[vikes_28]

I don't put absolute trust in anyone but myself.

See, the reason I don't get jealous is because if she is putting herself in those types of situations, the relationship has no future anyway, so I might as well just have fun and not worry about it. I would want to know sooner, rather than later, that she is a *****.
Ain't no sense worrying about things you got no control over, because if you got no control over them, ain't no sense worrying.- MIckey Rivers

I think I may just be missing the jealousy gene. I got cheated on, and I wasn't even the slightest bit jealous. I was pissed, but not that someone else had her other than me, just that she betrayed my trust. Jealousy doesn't make sense to me.

But on the other hand, at this age (18-25) we shouldn't be dating someone unless we have 100% intentions of marrying them. Because if one doesn't have intentions of marrying, then what's the point of the relationship? Physical comfort? That's a little bit low in my books. If a guy or a girl wants a relationship to work, they must cope with their significant other's needs. And if the need is something that they don't want to have happen in the relationship, like talking to another guy, then they aren't committed to the relationship the same way you are.

I have my female friends at school. But do I ever hang out with them outside of school? No. Do I talk to them outside of school? No. Whenever its me and friends, friends = me and the guys. Not me and the girls.

[Brent]

at this age (18-25) we shouldn't be dating someone unless we have 100% intentions of marrying them. Because if one doesn't have intentions of marrying, then what's the point of the relationship? Physical comfort?
There are a number of reasons people get together and deny it if you want but #1 is physical aspect. We're animals and just like any other animal, we have the same physiological needs: sleep, food & sex. To deny that physical pleasure isnt a logical reason for why you date someone is ridiculous.

[vikes_28]

There are a number of reasons people get together and deny it if you want but #1 is physical aspect. We're animals and just like any other animal, we have the same physiological needs: sleep, food & sex. To deny that physical pleasure isnt a logical reason for why you date someone is ridiculous.

I didn't say that physical pleasure wasn't a reason for why you should date someone. Have the physical stuff in your relationship WITH the intentions of getting married. Physicalness in a relationship can never be bad unless it is forced on the other. Physical relationships are encouraged. But at the same time, sex, by any means, does not equal love when not married.

[someone447]

But on the other hand, at this age (18-25) we shouldn't be dating someone unless we have 100% intentions of marrying them. Because if one doesn't have intentions of marrying, then what's the point of the relationship? Physical comfort? That's a little bit low in my books. If a guy or a girl wants a relationship to work, they must cope with their significant other's needs. And if the need is something that they don't want to have happen in the relationship, like talking to another guy, then they aren't committed to the relationship the same way you are.

I have my female friends at school. But do I ever hang out with them outside of school? No. Do I talk to them outside of school? No. Whenever its me and friends, friends = me and the guys. Not me and the girls.

Umm, I have absolutely no intention of considering marriage for anoth 8+ years. I'm not even going to think about it. No one should even think about getting married until after the are 25(and thats on the very low end.) People our age just aren't mature enough to make that sort of decision. You don't even know yourself, much less someone else.

I have every intention of dating, and no intention of marrying for quite some time. Let me have fun and learn about myself and what I want from a relationship. The vast majority of relationships are just practice. They don't have to go anywhere. The journey is as important as the destination.

Why do you think the divorce rate is so high? We place such emphasis on marrying earlier that it forces people into it well before they are ready.

[vikes_28]

I have every intention of dating, and no intention of marrying for quite some time. Let me have fun and learn about myself and what I want from a relationship. The vast majority of relationships are just practice. They don't have to go anywhere. The journey is as important as the destination.

The difference between you and me is that I have morals.

[Brent]

The difference between you and me is that I have morals.
What does that have to do with morals?

[someone447]

The difference between you and me is that I have morals.

I am very honest about it not going anywhere. I don't lie to get laid, I just have a good time. I think it is better to marry the person you know you are going to stay with your whole life. There is a reason the divorce rate is so high. I would rather know myself before I try to enter into a relationship with someone else that has the possibility of being forever. My friend, I think I am the one with the morals. Go ahead and only date people you think are perfect for you, come back here and let me know how many divorces you have, or how terrible your marriage is, because you rushed into it without knowing yourself, and what you actually look for in a girl.

Have fun with that, I'll stick to my strategy. Know my flaws, work on them, figure out what I like, and find a girl that fits that. You go ahead and rush in, I'll be the guy who ends up with a happy marriage.

[yourfavestoner]

The difference between you and me is that I have morals.

Here we go...

[saintsfan912]

I am very honest about it not going anywhere. I don't lie to get laid, I just have a good time. I think it is better to marry the person you know you are going to stay with your whole life. There is a reason the divorce rate is so high. I would rather know myself before I try to enter into a relationship with someone else that has the possibility of being forever. My friend, I think I am the one with the morals. Go ahead and only date people you think are perfect for you, come back here and let me know how many divorces you have, or how terrible your marriage is, because you rushed into it without knowing yourself, and what you actually look for in a girl.

Have fun with that, I'll stick to my strategy. Know my flaws, work on them, figure out what I like, and find a girl that fits that. You go ahead and rush in, I'll be the guy who ends up with a happy marriage.

Totally agree with you dude. You have to be comfortable in your own skin before you can find someone to be comfortable with you. I'm almost 27 and I finally found that "one". You have to kiss a few skanks before you find the princess.

[vikes_28]

I am very honest about it not going anywhere. I don't lie to get laid, I just have a good time. I think it is better to marry the person you know you are going to stay with your whole life. There is a reason the divorce rate is so high. I would rather know myself before I try to enter into a relationship with someone else that has the possibility of being forever. My friend, I think I am the one with the morals. Go ahead and only date people you think are perfect for you, come back here and let me know how many divorces you have, or how terrible your marriage is, because you rushed into it without knowing yourself, and what you actually look for in a girl.

Have fun with that, I'll stick to my strategy. Know my flaws, work on them, figure out what I like, and find a girl that fits that. You go ahead and rush in, I'll be the guy who ends up with a happy marriage.

Or maybe our morals are just different. I come from a very religious background. But i'm not going to get into that so I don't get infracted. But you can imagine what goes through my head when I think about dating and the whole concept of marriage. I may be only 18 but I'm pretty sure I found my girl. Granted, we won't be getting married for another 7+ years.

Totally agree with you dude. You have to be comfortable in your own skin before you can find someone to be comfortable with you. I'm almost 27 and I finally found that "one". You have to kiss a few skanks before you find the princess.

I have kissed a few skanks in my life. Its not like I never went through the "Dating for fun" stage. But my beef with not dating to look for marriage is that I've had such a bad taste in my mouth from getting hurt in the "fun" relationships. In those relationships I made it all about sex. And they lasted for 3 months at the most. Then I was hurt and so was she.

[terribletowel39]

That doesn't sound like dating for fun then. If both parties get hurt at the end of a 3 month sex fest. Then yall were obviously feeling more. Or just unable to seperate the sex and the feelings.

[someone447]

Or maybe our morals are just different. I come from a very religious background. But i'm not going to get into that so I don't get infracted. But you can imagine what goes through my head when I think about dating and the whole concept of marriage. I may be only 18 but I'm pretty sure I found my girl. Granted, we won't be getting married for another 7+ years.



I have kissed a few skanks in my life. Its not like I never went through the "Dating for fun" stage. But my beef with not dating to look for marriage is that I've had such a bad taste in my mouth from getting hurt in the "fun" relationships. In those relationships I made it all about sex. And they lasted for 3 months at the most. Then I was hurt and so was she.

You are 18, you have never had an adult relationship. You have not been through any stage in your life, except child. High school is so insulated from the real world that relationships in high school don't even matter. Hell, college relationships are insulated from the real world. You don't have to worry about bills, food, your next paycheck, etc. High school and college are their own little bubbles.

At 18 I had "found my girl" too. It is a long story, but college changed that, for both of us. Don't be in such a hurry to grow up, I made that mistake and ended up getting hurt very badly for it.

You sound so much like I did 4-5 years ago it is unbelievable. That all changed once I got to college. I went from very religious(when I was younger) to anti-religion after I started doing my own research and not taking everything my parents and pastor said at face value. I realized that all religions are practically the same, and therefore quite obviously false. But I digress, just take your time and enjoy the ride. Don't worry so much about finding the one, because odds are, you won't find the one for a very long time. Everyone thinks their high school relationship is different, but it isn't. It will end in failure just like 99.9% of high school "loves."

[someone447]

Here we go...

Seems like it always comes to this with me...

That doesn't sound like dating for fun then. If both parties get hurt at the end of a 3 month sex fest. Then yall were obviously feeling more. Or just unable to seperate the sex and the feelings.

Tada!!!! He was in high school. Obviously he is unable to seperate sex from feelings. I know I wanted to marry the first girl I ******. I was with her for almost three years, and then she cheated on me. Now I have realized that what I felt wasn't love, it was love of the *****. I was in no way mature enough to actually love someone. Hell, I don't think I am mature enough yet.

[saintsfan912]

At 18 I had "found my girl" too. It is a long story, but college changed that, for both of us. Don't be in such a hurry to grow up, I made that mistake and ended up getting hurt very badly for it.

Yep, me too bud. Dated my highschool "sweetheart" for 2 years while I was in college. Worst relationship I've ever been in. Kinda ruined me for a few years. ****, I didn't have a girlfriend for 4 years after that whole debacle. I met my new girlfriend and I'm happier than I've ever been.

Anyways, at 18 you have no idea what the real world is like. None whatsoever. Just because you may have had a job at a grocery store or pizza place or something doesn't mean you know what it's like to be an adult and to have responsibilities. You have to live life before you can live for another person, simple as that.

[someone447]

Yep, me too bud. Dated my highschool "sweetheart" for 2 years while I was in college. Worst relationship I've ever been in. Kinda ruined me for a few years. ****, I didn't have a girlfriend for 4 years after that whole debacle. I met my new girlfriend and I'm happier than I've ever been.

Anyways, at 18 you have no idea what the real world is like. None whatsoever. Just because you may have had a job at a grocery store or pizza place or something doesn't mean you know what it's like to be an adult and to have responsibilities. You have to live life before you can live for another person, simple as that.

Ya, thats exactly what happened to me. I am in my 3rd year without a gf. I was never a very trusting person to begin with, and that just made it even worse.

I know for a fact he isn't going to listen to any of our advice. Kids never do. I know for damn sure I didn't. But he will be back in a year or two saying the same things we are to the kids asking questions then.

[ccB]

I hate people who come into a conversation perched upon their moral high horse with the attitude that, if you don't live life up to their standards then you are fair game to be subjected to their ridicule and condescension. News flasheveryone has their own set or moral guidelines to live life, and aside from the most extreme circumstances one should not be judged by these differences.

[someone447]

I hate people who come into a conversation perched upon their moral high horse with the attitude that, if you don't live life up to their standards then you are fair game to be subjected to their ridicule and condescension. News flasheveryone has their own set or moral guidelines to live life, and aside from the most extreme circumstances one should not be judged by these differences.

I'm not judging his morals, I am questioning his judgment. People change so much from the age of 18-25 that his morals now won't be the same as his morals in 5 years. I am trying to give him some healthy advice, he is in a situation most people go through at that age.

A fool repeats his mistakes, a wise man learns from his mistakes, and a genius learns from the mistakes of others.

[ccB]

I'm not judging his morals, I am questioning his judgment. People change so much from the age of 18-25 that his morals now won't be the same as his morals in 5 years. I am trying to give him some healthy advice, he is in a situation most people go through at that age.

A fool repeats his mistakes, a wise man learns from his mistakes, and a genius learns from the mistakes of others.

I was directing that towards him questioning your morals.

[someone447]

I was directing that towards him questioning your morals.

Ahh, I just remember typing out a long post last night about how, because I am honest, I am the one that has morals. Maybe I didn't end up posting it though. I was a little drunk.

I'm a moral relativist though, so questioning others morals is kind of out of the question. Every person's situation is different, so what makes me so special that they have to do what I would do(morally, if I am giving advice it is because I have lived through the situation and can help the person avoid a lot of heartache.)

[Brent]

I'm a moral relativist though
You know someone told me recently that moral relativity was a bunch of BS? I wanted to hit them but opposition to moral relativity is a religious thing which we can't get into.

Keeping this on topic, who's hitting the bars on Valentine's? I know I am. It maybe be a corporate construction but I'll be damned if I dont take advantage of opportunities.

[MetSox17]

Keeping this on topic, who's hitting the bars on Valentine's? I know I am. It maybe be a corporate construction but I'll be damned if I dont take advantage of opportunities.

For me, it's either that or buying a 20, grabbing a lawn chair and listen to Brooks and Dunn all night.

[ccB]

Valentines Day will be like any other day to me. My lady and I firmly believe we don't need a special day to prove how much we love each other, every day should be spent that way. That said I'll probably still get her some flowers, draw her up a nice home made card. **** all that corporate ********, its a holiday for card company's to make some scratch.

[saintsfan912]

VDay is gonna be awesome! I've never really cared about it, always thought it was a ridiculous "holiday". Now that I actually have a girlfriend I care about, totally different. Its our first together so we're doing it big. By big I mean making our gifts, spending the day in bed all day and watching sappy movies. Only leaving the house once, and that's to go pick up chinese food to go. Don't know why Chinese, just what she wants. She did get us Hornet tickets too, 10 rows from the floor. Yea, she's that awesome haha. Damn, all that sounded kinda girly. Oh well.

[someone447]

Even when I have had a gf, I thought it was stupid. It is a hallmark holiday, created for the sole purpose of making money. I'm going to the bars for sure though.

[saintsfan912]

That's why we aren't doing anything that makes those assholes any money.

[tjsunstein]

This isn't relationship advice at all but I visited Penn State over the weekend and got with a girl while dancing with her. I didnt see her face partly because it was dark and because I was smashed but the girls I was with said she was cute and I trust their judgment. I didnt get her name but her body was nice, since I felt it all.

Morally incorrect or acceptable?

[Sniper]

This isn't relationship advice at all but I visited Penn State over the weekend and got with a girl while dancing with her. I didnt see her face partly because it was dark and because I was smashed but the girls I was with said she was cute and I trust their judgment. I didnt get her name but her body was nice, since I felt it all.

Morally incorrect or acceptable?

Completely acceptable. If girls said she was cute, she's good-looking.

[tjsunstein]

Completely acceptable. If girls said she was cute, she's good-looking.

http://chicagolandgolf.com/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/tiger-masters-fist-pump250x.jpg

[bsaza2358]

This isn't relationship advice at all but I visited Penn State over the weekend and got with a girl while dancing with her. I didnt see her face partly because it was dark and because I was smashed but the girls I was with said she was cute and I trust their judgment. I didnt get her name but her body was nice, since I felt it all.

Morally incorrect or acceptable?

I would say that it doesn't matter because you got yours and the body was nice. You're never gonna see the girl again, so who cares? Congrats!

[bsaza2358]

VDay is gonna be awesome! I've never really cared about it, always thought it was a ridiculous "holiday". Now that I actually have a girlfriend I care about, totally different. Its our first together so we're doing it big. By big I mean making our gifts, spending the day in bed all day and watching sappy movies. Only leaving the house once, and that's to go pick up chinese food to go. Don't know why Chinese, just what she wants. She did get us Hornet tickets too, 10 rows from the floor. Yea, she's that awesome haha. Damn, all that sounded kinda girly. Oh well.

It sounds like you're the chick in the relationship. haha. Sounds awesome though.

[tjsunstein]

I would say that it doesn't matter because you got yours and the body was nice. You're never gonna see the girl again, so who cares? Congrats!

Even if I did, I wouldnt know it. lol

[bsaza2358]

You remember the body, and you got some. Game over, you win...

[saintsfan912]

It sounds like you're the chick in the relationship. haha. Sounds awesome though.

Haha. Mostly her idea but I'm definitely loving it.

[awfullyquiet]

This isn't relationship advice at all but I visited Penn State over the weekend and got with a girl while dancing with her. I didnt see her face partly because it was dark and because I was smashed but the girls I was with said she was cute and I trust their judgment. I didnt get her name but her body was nice, since I felt it all.

Morally incorrect or acceptable?

welcome to penn state.

everyone there worships false idols.

http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/k/l/klr279/photos/ma_lion.jpg

[someone447]

This isn't relationship advice at all but I visited Penn State over the weekend and got with a girl while dancing with her. I didnt see her face partly because it was dark and because I was smashed but the girls I was with said she was cute and I trust their judgment. I didnt get her name but her body was nice, since I felt it all.

Morally incorrect or acceptable?

How would that be morally incorrect at all? Obviously she wanted to, otherwise she wouldn't have let you.

[ChezPower4]

How would that be morally incorrect at all? Obviously she wanted to, otherwise she wouldn't have let you.

Have to agree with this guy ^^^

[BamaFalcon59]

Texting sucks.


Gives no idea on what the other person is thinking.

[Brent]

Texting sucks.
Texting is, for the most part, unnecessary. If it's important they'll call. Only times I get text messages any more is from someone who is in class. Or drunk.

[BamaFalcon59]

Texting is, for the most part, unnecessary. If it's important they'll call. Only times I get text messages any more is from someone who is in class. Or drunk.

Lots of people round here text.

Hard to get any feel on what somebody is thinking.

[kalbears13]

Texting is good for quick things that aren't very deep like "Dinner at 6?" or "Who's Driving" but if it's conversation then phone is better.

[Zyro_1014]

Texting sucks.


Gives no idea on what the other person is thinking.

Here in Idaho its the only thing people do. No one talks on the phone and it pisses me off....for the reason you just stated.

[BamaFalcon59]

Here in Idaho its the only thing people do. No one talks on the phone and it pisses me off....for the reason you just stated.

Hell yeah. Same in Bama. Talking can happen but it is almost all texting.

I'm not even the greatest conversator (word?), topics can get dull on the phone quickly. But at least it is possible to tell the persons emotions.

[Brent]

I'm not even the greatest conversator (word?), topics can get dull on the phone quickly. But at least it is possible to tell the persons emotions.
conversationalist*

I prefer phone because it is just as quick and feelings are easily transmitted.

[ElectricEye]

Text messaging is the literal incarnation of the Anti-Christ. Convince me otherwise. It absolutely and totally disgusts me.

[Vikes99ej]

Text messaging is the literal incarnation of the Anti-Christ. Convince me otherwise. It absolutely and totally disgusts me.

It's good for little quick things, but for maintaining an intelligible conversation it's worthless.

[ElectricEye]

No. It's not good for quick and little things. Those quick and little things don't mean ****. If you don't have time for your friends to the point where you have to twittle your thumbs or whip out your text ***** keyboard in order to communicate with them, you probably have too many friends and should try to find some people who are actually worth having around.

Beyond that, it's just disgusting. I know couples who never talk outside of texting and hanging out every now and again. How can you even know a person doing that? It's an impersonal medium. Same with IM and such. Then, when fights start and **** people say things that they clearly either don't have the heart or the balls to say to people on the phone, or more importantly face to face....which leads to further social retardation amongst our youth. Which leads to more emo kids. Nobody likes emo kids.

Beyond that, it's just ******* annoying. I can't stand you're hanging out with someone and they're just texting someone else the entire god damned time. It happens. By agreeing to hanging out, you're saying that you enjoy spending time with someone. If that's the case why in the hell can't you stop talking about absolutely nothing with whatstheirface? This is a big time problem with girls. My girlfriend doesn't do it too much, but the tail my friends chase end up doing that the entire night. It's pretty easy to see why they do it; it makes them feel important and people love ego fellatio.

It's the most infernal thing ever invented and I hope it gets shot in the face.

[someone447]

No. It's not good for quick and little things. Those quick and little things don't mean ****. If you don't have time for your friends to the point where you have to twittle your thumbs or whip out your text ***** keyboard in order to communicate with them, you probably have too many friends and should try to find some people who are actually worth having around.

Beyond that, it's just disgusting. I know couples who never talk outside of texting and hanging out every now and again. How can you even know a person doing that? It's an impersonal medium. Same with IM and such. Then, when fights start and **** people say things that they clearly either don't have the heart or the balls to say to people on the phone, or more importantly face to face....which leads to further social retardation amongst our youth. Which leads to more emo kids. Nobody likes emo kids.

Beyond that, it's just ******* annoying. I can't stand you're hanging out with someone and they're just texting someone else the entire god damned time. It happens. By agreeing to hanging out, you're saying that you enjoy spending time with someone. If that's the case why in the hell can't you stop talking about absolutely nothing with whatstheirface? This is a big time problem with girls. My girlfriend doesn't do it too much, but the tail my friends chase end up doing that the entire night. It's pretty easy to see why they do it; it makes them feel important and people love ego fellatio.

It's the most infernal thing ever invented and I hope it gets shot in the face.

There is a time and a place for texting, quick and little things, yes it is good for. Saying "Hey, whats goin on tonight?" Texts are good for that. Or, "What bar are you at?" Things of that nature. Texting someone else(more than an I'm busy, or I am at ________ place) while you are hanging out with a different person is bad, its annoying as hell and I don't hang out with people who do that. But why call to have a 20 second converstion? Why not just say, "hey, Im at ____"?

I rarely text, but if I am trying to find something to do one night, I'll text. Just because my friends are from a bunch of different groups. I figure I will talk to them when I see them, I hate phones in the first place.

If I am trying to **** a girl, obviously I will text, but only because they text me first. I would rather just see them, but when in Rome...

People like you piss me off, had you been alive 60-70 years ago, you would have been decrying the use of the telephone. You have to use the equipment of your time.

[someone447]

conversationalist*

I prefer phone because it is just as quick and feelings are easily transmitted.

I prefer in person... Phones are just as bad as texting... Most interaction is through body language, you can't tell that on the phone.

[saintsfan912]

All me and my girlfriend do is text. We both hate talking on the phone. We send entire conversations through text. It's just easier. Might be because we both have iphones but I've always texted and have always hated talking on the phone. I'm just glad she hates talking on the phone as much as I do. We talk plenty in person, we see each other every day. Texting is just how people communicate these days, get over it.

[ElectricEye]

All me and my girlfriend do is text. We both hate talking on the phone. We send entire conversations through text. It's just easier. Might be because we both have iphones but I've always texted and have always hated talking on the phone. I'm just glad she hates talking on the phone as much as I do. We talk plenty in person, we see each other every day. Texting is just how people communicate these days, get over it.

Not going to get over it. It's absolutely appalling. If that's the way people communicate these days then we are so, so, so ridiculously screwed over.

Text messaging and facebook are well on their way to destroying the human social process.

[someone447]

Not going to get over it. It's absolutely appalling. If that's the way people communicate these days then we are so, so, so ridiculously screwed over.

Text messaging and facebook are well on their way to destroying the human social process.

The same thing is said about every new invention, you are being a technophobe. You sound like a grouchy old man, "back in my day, we didn't have all these fancy electrical thingys."

[ElectricEye]

The same thing is said about every new invention, you are being a technophobe. You sound like a grouchy old man, "back in my day, we didn't have all these fancy electrical thingys."

I'm 17 years old. I'm thinking about majoring in computer science when I go to college. I'm far from a technophobe. Well, maybe a bit. I don't like the idea that technology and convenience and changing the way we interact. That's not any different than other developments, but all others have been towards the personalization of communication. This is a step in the opposite direction. It's soulless.

[someone447]

I'm 17 years old. I'm thinking about majoring in computer science when I go to college. I'm far from a technophobe. Well, maybe a bit. I don't like the idea that technology and convenience and changing the way we interact. That's not any different than other developments, but all others have been towards the personalization of communication. This is a step in the opposite direction. It's soulless.

The same was being said about the telephone. I agree that serious conversations shouldn't be held over text, but they shouldn't be held over the phone either. The need to be in person, but whether it is over the phone or over text, it really doesn't matter.

[ccB]

My gf and I text all throughout the day when we are not together, we hardly ever talk on the phone. I am just not a phone person and don't feel the need to give her a ring when I only have something short to say. I see her everyday so any conversation where emotions need to be conveyed can be done in person.

[Brent]

I prefer in person... Phones are just as bad as texting... Most interaction is through body language, you can't tell that on the phone.
I prefer in person as well, I was just saying my preference in using a phone as a medium for conversation. However, there is talk that the new iphone will have video conferencing. Regardless, in person > anything else.

[diabsoule]

The girl I had been seeing and thought things were going great with just called and broke up with me. I'm pretty much in shock because there weren't any indications of anything going wrong.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

The girl I had been seeing and thought things were going great with just called and broke up with me. I'm pretty much in shock because there weren't any indications of anything going wrong.


That's surprising. Stopping with a girl so I don't have to get her anything is straight out of my playbook. Surprising that a girl would pull that card.

[yourfavestoner]

The girl I had been seeing and thought things were going great with just called and broke up with me. I'm pretty much in shock because there weren't any indications of anything going wrong.

Valentine's Day just got a whole lot cheaper.

[BigDawg819]

Valentine's Day just got a whole lot cheaper.
As long as he didn't already get the gifts, which he likely did.

[Sniper]

The girl I had been seeing and thought things were going great with just called and broke up with me. I'm pretty much in shock because there weren't any indications of anything going wrong.

Surprised she didn't wait until after V-Day.

[BigDawg819]

Surprised she didn't wait until after V-Day.


I suspect intimacy issues.

Sincerely,

Dr. BigDawg


My bill is in the mail

[kalbears13]

Poking on Facebook is the best way to show emotion.

[ElectricEye]

The same was being said about the telephone. I agree that serious conversations shouldn't be held over text, but they shouldn't be held over the phone either. The need to be in person, but whether it is over the phone or over text, it really doesn't matter.

I agree completely, but the very fact that people sit their and develop entire relationships over text is just disgusting to me. The phone isn't much better, but at least you're actually taking time out for the person. I really don't get why people don't just kick people in the face when they try to text them, especially in the context of a relationship.


That's real rough diabsoule. I think we've all had that happen to before at one point or another but it doesn't make it any less ***.

[tjsunstein]

I agree completely, but the very fact that people sit their and develop entire relationships over text is just disgusting to me. The phone isn't much better, but at least you're actually taking time out for the person. I really don't get why people don't just kick people in the face when they try to text them, especially in the context of a relationship.


That's real rough diabsoule. I think we've all had that happen to before at one point or another but it doesn't make it any less ***.

Something little can turn into a full length conversation via text without even trying to make it out to be that. One thing turns into another and very rarely will someone want to call mid text conversation and respond to the topic on hand. Texting is useful in noisy places and for the awkward things that people need to say but cant phase them verbally.

[someone447]

I agree completely, but the very fact that people sit their and develop entire relationships over text is just disgusting to me. The phone isn't much better, but at least you're actually taking time out for the person. I really don't get why people don't just kick people in the face when they try to text them, especially in the context of a relationship.


That's real rough diabsoule. I think we've all had that happen to before at one point or another but it doesn't make it any less ***.

I agree with you on that, but you said that ALL texting is disgusting. Important things, I'll agree with, but texting can be a very useful tool. Plus, you have to go with the times. Girls like to text now, so you kind of have to do it. We are a culture of convenience, and texting is very convenient.

[ccB]

Everyone just needs to remember, bitches love smiley faces.

[ElectricEye]

Everyone just needs to remember, bitches love smiley faces.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a398/Stinkoman_BB/photos/Bitches_Love_Smileys.jpg

I just really think the entire convince thing is being taken to an extreme. As a principal, texting isn't that terrible of an idea but the way it's being used a long with a lot of other social technology is just disgusting and we're going to be seeing the ramifications of it in the very near future.

Really, I could go into a full blown argument about it and I think there's a few things I have on my mind when I think about texting that can't be explained without extensive elaboration and delving into things that I'm not particularly an expert on...but it's not worth the trouble.

[someone447]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a398/Stinkoman_BB/photos/Bitches_Love_Smileys.jpg

I just really think the entire convince thing is being taken to an extreme. As a principal, texting isn't that terrible of an idea but the way it's being used a long with a lot of other social technology is just disgusting and we're going to be seeing the ramifications of it in the very near future.

Really, I could go into a full blown argument about it and I think there's a few things I have on my mind when I think about texting that can't be explained without extensive elaboration and delving into things that I'm not particularly an expert on...but it's not worth the trouble.

You have to realize that people do this with every new invention, there will always be people like you who pine for the good old days, when really, there never was a good old days. Texting and the other forms of social technology supplements traditional forms of interaction. It doesn't replace them. To make a blanket statement saying it is "disgusting" is not only closeminded, it is very naive.

So get off your high horse and let the technology work for you, instead of battling against it. Use the tools of the culture in a way that works for you, but use them, otherwise you will be fighting a losing battle your entire life.

I agree texting sucks, but I have enough problems reading peoples reactions in person, so over the phone and through typing makes it even harder for me. But I manage, because if I didn't I would be left in the dust any time new technology comes out.

[tjsunstein]

My 46 year old dad has been texting for about 2 years now tops.

['cuse-213]

This girl invited me to her house, so she can cook me dinner, and watch a movie. Should I be condom ready?

[bearsfan_51]

This girl invited me to her house, so she can cook me dinner, and watch a movie. Should I be condom ready?

You should be condom ready walking down the street.

Well, unless you're ugly, then don't worry about it.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

You should be condom ready walking down the street.



Bingo. Never hurts to have one handy.

[bearsfan_51]

You have to realize that people do this with every new invention, there will always be people like you who pine for the good old days, when really, there never was a good old days. Texting and the other forms of social technology supplements traditional forms of interaction. It doesn't replace them. To make a blanket statement saying it is "disgusting" is not only closeminded, it is very naive.

So get off your high horse and let the technology work for you, instead of battling against it. Use the tools of the culture in a way that works for you, but use them, otherwise you will be fighting a losing battle your entire life.

I agree texting sucks, but I have enough problems reading peoples reactions in person, so over the phone and through typing makes it even harder for me. But I manage, because if I didn't I would be left in the dust any time new technology comes out.
You make it sound like if he doesn't use text-messaging he'll end up homeless.

We're not talking about the automobile here, it's just a stupid way to send people banal and thoughtless messages. You're perfectly fine not using it.

[someone447]

You make it sound like if he doesn't use text-messaging he'll end up homeless.

We're not talking about the automobile here, it's just a stupid way to send people banal and thoughtless messages. You're perfectly fine not using it.

No, I am only saying he is fighting a losing battle, and to be "disgusted" with something as insignificant as text messaging, there will probably be many, many other things he will try to fight. It may be a bit of a fallacy that I consider it a slippery slope, but really, use the tools of your culture, and fight the battles that really matter.

Fighting battles against insignificant things will only serve to make you into a bitter old man before the age of thirty.

I would change one thing in your sentence. It's just a convenient way to send people banal and thoughtless messages. I really only use it in a few situations. When I am bored in class, a late night booty call, "hey, you home?+"I'm coming over", and to find parties.

[yourfavestoner]

All we need is because
Come and party with us
Take care of you when you're passed out
Right there with you in your glass house

[someone447]

All we need is because
Come and party with us
Take care of you when you're passed out
Right there with you in your glass house

I don't feel as strongly as he seems to about text messaging. I am far from a fan of it, but I use it because the culture essentially demands I use it. That is where the difference lies. Maybe he doesn't feel as strongly about it as his posts would seem to suggest. But when you use words like "disgusting" that indicates a pretty high level of distaste.

I am more fighting on an intellectual level, against technophobia, but I will admit I care entirely too much about the state of others minds. Especially because nothing I do will ever change it.

[bearsfan_51]

I would change one thing in your sentence. It's just a convenient way to send people banal and thoughtless messages. I really only use it in a few situations. When I am bored in class, a late night booty call, "hey, you home?+"I'm coming over", and to find parties.
How does that at all refute what I said?

[someone447]

How does that at all refute what I said?

That part didn't, at all. I wasn't trying to. But banal and thoughtless things will always be communicated to others, and texting is just a convenient way to do it.

[ElectricEye]

Fighting battles against insignificant things will only serve to make you into a bitter old man before the age of thirty.


I'm cool with that. I don't really care if I'm bitter and old before I'm ever actually young. I don't think I exactly fall into that category of people either. I'm not "pining for the good old days" or anything of that nature. Doesn't really matter if it's a loosing battle either, because it would be pointless the actually fight. I know I'm not going to change a damn thing. I'm not in denial of it. I just think it has a severely negative, albeit subtle, impact on our culture. Not really worried though. Half of it is a fad.

[awfullyquiet]

text message = telephones 80 years ago. you might have well have just gone over there and talked to her in person!

['cuse-213]

You should be condom ready walking down the street.

Well, unless you're ugly, then don't worry about it.

LOL. Didnt need it after all :/

[HawkeyeFan]

My gf and I text all throughout the day when we are not together, we hardly ever talk on the phone. I am just not a phone person and don't feel the need to give her a ring when I only have something short to say. I see her everyday so any conversation where emotions need to be conveyed can be done in person.

Same here, plus I always have my music blaring when I'm at home or in my car, and hate having to turn it down to talk on the phone.

[GET LOOSE]

IM and txt for me is very important. Lets say I have to say something I dont want people around me to hear then I just type it and its all good. If your just having fun with a few girls then texting and IM saves a lot of arguments. But I dont mind talking on the phone or in person at all any means of conversation im cool with.

[someone447]

text message = telephones 80 years ago. you might have well have just gone over there and talked to her in person!

My point exactly, we seem to agree on a lot of things in this thread...

[someone447]

I'm cool with that. I don't really care if I'm bitter and old before I'm ever actually young. I don't think I exactly fall into that category of people either. I'm not "pining for the good old days" or anything of that nature. Doesn't really matter if it's a loosing battle either, because it would be pointless the actually fight. I know I'm not going to change a damn thing. I'm not in denial of it. I just think it has a severely negative, albeit subtle, impact on our culture. Not really worried though. Half of it is a fad.

I was well on the way to that path only a year ago, you are a much happier person when you let things like that go.

Unfortunately, it isn't only a fad, it is here to stay.

[El Peefs?????]

I hate talking on the phone. I would rather condense a 5-10 minute conversation into 3-4 texts that take me 60 seconds to put together.

[Vikes99ej]

I'm sorry AQ, but I hate girls. I don't know why I put myself in these situations.

[skinzzfan25]

I went to some teen club thingy last night in Baltimore. Met up with a cute girl, got my grind on while I watched the All-Star game haha.

[Canadian_kid16]

so, my buddy is thinkign breaking up with his g/f because he hates her parents. He's gotten alot of action from her, and he's not the type of guy who'll get alot of g/f's

you guys got any advice? I can be more specific if need be. I'm telling him it's a dumb idea, but I'm not experienced in douchebag parents

[skinzzfan25]

so, my buddy is thinkign breaking up with his g/f because he hates her parents. He's gotten alot of action from her, and he's not the type of guy who'll get alot of g/f's

you guys got any advice? I can be more specific if need be. I'm telling him it's a dumb idea, but I'm not experienced in douchebag parents

How old is he/his girl?

[yourfavestoner]

so, my buddy is thinkign breaking up with his g/f because he hates her parents. He's gotten alot of action from her, and he's not the type of guy who'll get alot of g/f's

you guys got any advice? I can be more specific if need be. I'm telling him it's a dumb idea, but I'm not experienced in douchebag parents

Depends on a variety of factors. How long have they been together? What is he looking to get out of the relationship? Does he even necessarily want to be in one if he's feeling like that already?

As a general rule, if a girls parents suck, then she probably sucks too. Girls are incredibly good at putting their best foot forward to lure guys in. Once you've been with them for awhile, their inner succubus will emerge. If you meet a girl whose mom looks good for her age and is cool and she has a cool dad too, then you've got a keeper on your hands.

[Canadian_kid16]

Depends on a variety of factors. How long have they been together? What is he looking to get out of the relationship? Does he even necessarily want to be in one if he's feeling like that already?

As a general rule, if a girls parents suck, then she probably sucks too. Girls are incredibly good at putting their best foot forward to lure guys in. Once you've been with them for awhile, their inner succubus will emerge. If you meet a girl whose mom looks good for her age and is cool and she has a cool dad too, then you've got a keeper on your hands.

both are 17, he's genuinely interested in a relationship, but he can't handle her parents. They broke up once already because of the parents, she just crawled back to him 15 minutes after they broke up because she said she couldn't live without him.

Dramatic, I know.

[BamaFalcon59]

Wow, caring friend to be going to this trouble. I'm not sure I would care this much for my friend's relationship. Maybe if I knew the girl as well.

[yourfavestoner]

both are 17, he's genuinely interested in a relationship, but he can't handle her parents. They broke up once already because of the parents, she just crawled back to him 15 minutes after they broke up because she said she couldn't live without him.

Dramatic, I know.

She's got issues. If her parents are that crazy, and she's already spewing emo **** at him then she's only going to get worse. He's basically got two options: learn a valuable life lesson about how much it sucks to fall in love with a crazy girl (because every man needs to learn this lesson sometime in his life) or maintain his happiness and sanity.

[BamaFalcon59]

Is acting like you are busy a good idea when you are actually not busy? To appear like you are not just doing nothing? Because something always comes up with this girl. Not sure if it would look better on my part to be the one who is busy for once.

If that made any sense.

[yourfavestoner]

Is acting like you are busy a good idea when you are actually not busy? To appear like you are not just doing nothing? Because something always comes up with this girl. Not sure if it would look better on my part to be the one who is busy for once.

If that made any sense.

Absolutely. Being too available is an absolute game killer. Appear like you're busy and that you are wanted to be at places and doing things. It makes it so that you don't appear to just be waiting around all the time just to hang out with the girl. You need to give off that you have other interests besides just her and that other people are interested in you.

[Canadian_kid16]

Wow, caring friend to be going to this trouble. I'm not sure I would care this much for my friend's relationship. Maybe if I knew the girl as well.

I know, I'm a bleeding heart.

Is acting like you are busy a good idea when you are actually not busy? To appear like you are not just doing nothing? Because something always comes up with this girl. Not sure if it would look better on my part to be the one who is busy for once.

If that made any sense.

IDK, I do it all the time, but I've never actually had a g/f before. You do the math ;)

[BamaFalcon59]

Absolutely. Being too available is an absolute game killer. Appear like you're busy and that you are wanted to be at places and doing things. It makes it so that you don't appear to just be waiting around all the time just to hang out with the girl. You need to give off that you have other interests besides just her and that other people are interested in you.

I usually am busy. But when I am free something often comes up on her end. Which makes me think she's not interested, and I get mad. Then we talk and we're cool. IDK. Tough one to read.

[Brent]

I usually am busy. But when I am free something often comes up on her end. Which makes me think she's not interested, and I get pissed. Then we talk and we're cool. IDK. Tough one to read.
He's right, if you look like you are busy with stuff it makes you seem interesting because you always have things going on. Weekday dates are a good one. Ask her out on like a Tuesday night or something and act like it's your only free night and **** like that.

[someone447]

Absolutely. Being too available is an absolute game killer. Appear like you're busy and that you are wanted to be at places and doing things. It makes it so that you don't appear to just be waiting around all the time just to hang out with the girl. You need to give off that you have other interests besides just her and that other people are interested in you.

Wrong, you need to have other interests besides her. Pretending to doesn't cut it.

[someone447]

I usually am busy. But when I am free something often comes up on her end. Which makes me think she's not interested, and I get mad. Then we talk and we're cool. IDK. Tough one to read.

If it has happened more than once, MAYBE twice, she is just stringing you along(unless you have been seeing each other prior to and the timing is bad.)

[BamaFalcon59]

If it has happened more than once, MAYBE twice, she is just stringing you along(unless you have been seeing each other prior to and the timing is bad.)

I'm thinking that. It's happened twice. I really don't get her at all.

We've been cool for like a year and a half. Everytime I think she is just playing me I think how she acts, and she definitely doesn't seem like someone who would do that. And then I get the same impression when we text, but it gos back to my hate for texting. Can't read the person.

The first time it happened I was mad, but could understand something coming up. The second time was worse. Texted on and off the whole day, never happened. I confronted/ asked her about it. I told her it was BS getting done like that two times getting stood up and that I felt like I was getting played. She kind of got mad about me thinking that and was just like whatever it's not like that.

So I have no idea.

[Brent]

You could confront her on it.

[BamaFalcon59]

You could confront her on it.

I kind of did. But I will if it happens again, this time not via text.

[GET LOOSE]

I kind of did. But I will if it happens again, this time not via text.

If there is anything that I know its that girls want guys to take control and show there leadership. Dont get me wrong space is always needed and you cant be to bossy but you always have to show that you are the leader of the relationship. If a girl stands you up you have to straight up let her know that aint gonna fly but in a respectable way. Gils dont like guys they can just walk all over. And about the pretending to be busy thing that is a yes. I mean I hope you would be busy sometimes anyway but its not a bad thing to lie and be like ill call you later im a little busy or something like that.

[BamaFalcon59]

If there is anything that I know its that girls want guys to take control and show there leadership. Dont get me wrong space is always needed and you cant be to bossy but you always have to show that you are the leader of the relationship. If a girl stands you up you have to straight up let her know that aint gonna fly but in a respectable way. Gils dont like guys they can just walk all over. And about the pretending to be busy thing that is a yes. I mean I hope you would be busy sometimes anyway but its not a bad thing to lie and be like ill call you later im a little busy or something like that.

Haha I am, but you know what I mean.

[yourfavestoner]

Wrong, you need to have other interests besides her. Pretending to doesn't cut it.

Well yeah, that's implied. I'm just saying that it's neevr a bad idea to pretend you are even when you're not.

[Vikes99ej]

Can I PM someone with a problem? I know friends who know I have an account here, and I don't want them seeing anything.

[jballa838]

I maybe could help. I am bored enough to try.

[Brent]

Can I PM someone with a problem? I know friends who know I have an account here, and I don't want them seeing anything.
I can try. Also, bsaza2358 can help but I don't think he's here.

['cuse-213]

I maybe could help. I am bored enough to try.

I just want to hear the problem

[Vikes99ej]

**** it, I'll do it in here haha. Let me preface this by saying I am an idiot. I met this girl at the beginning of school last fall. She is a friend of my best friend's girl friend. I thought she was pretty attractive, and she started a bunch of conversations with me online and ****. Me being me, this was enough to give the impression that there might actually be something. Well a little bit after the first I met her she got back with her boyfriend of three years or some ****, and she still keeps talking to me (should have been a red flag). I still like her, and she ends up breaking up with her boyfriend a little while after Halloween. She was single for a while, but I never made any moves or anything and she ended up with another guy, still talking to me all the time. She asked me all the the time to go party. She breaks up with this guy after Thanksgiving, and I really want to do something. I never ask to hang out one-on-one or anything, and we go drinking almost every weekend. Well in December we all go to a buddie's apartment, and I guess she picked up a vibe there with one of my friends who live there, because they start going out later. My friend even asked me if I was cool with him trying to go after her, because I think he knew I liked her. I said it was cool and whatever. It's not like I was making any actual moves, and I'm not going to say "**** no, don't do anything so I can continue to sit around with my thumb up my ass". She still wants to talk to me all time over Christmas Break. They eventually break up when we get back to school. My buddy even asked me if he should break up with her. She's still "single" right now, and around a week ago she started hitting on another one of my friends who I am going to live with next year. I kept asking if she wanted to hang out with my roommate and watch TV or whatever, but I was getting this paranoid vibe that she was being lazy or making **** up. And that leaves us at this weekend. I knew she was still going to be single this upcoming weekend, and the whole week I thinking I should just ask her to a casual lunch on Saturday if she didn't have anyone for V-Day. Of course, I never asked. Well Saturday afternoon I learn that she was going to hang out with that one friend I'm going to live with next year and "watch a movie and make a puzzle". Later that night me, her, him, and my other buddies were going to party at one of my friend's houses. I am pretty ******* upset to learn that she was going to do something with him (I know I probably didn't have a right to be), and I try to ignore her the entire night. I end up BS-ing with her a little bit, but I don't get comfy with her. I wanted to make it obvious. Later that night we are about to leave and ride back in a buddy's car, and the future roommate and her are hugging and ****, thanking each other for being valentines. This is really bothering me, and a few seconds later I hear them kiss a few times. The whole entire night my other friends were telling me "dude, he told me he doesn't like her... they just want to be friends", and I have to be next to this ****. I know it doesn't make sense, but goddamnit that hurt so bad. I didn't want to talk the rest of the night, but I ended up talking with my best friend and his girlfriend. We were all drunk, and I'm not sure how much of it stuck or made sense. The next day I tell myself I am done with this *****. I am sure I was wasting my time. I didn't talk to her on Sunday and most of today. Tonight she starts a conversation with me saying "i know you are upset at me... me and ___ aren't anything". I just tell her it doesn't matter, and she says she still wants to be friends. I don't remember what I said, but I didn't give her anything definite or concrete. I know I am going to have to see her in the future seeing as she is my best friend's girlfriend's best friend (if that makes any sense). I am such a ******* ******. I didn't feel anything on Sunday morning; I was just numb. My friend tries convincing me that she is a dumb, selfish ***** who doesn't care about anyone, and I am starting to see it. When I look at it from this angle she just looks like someone who doesn't know what she wants. She complains about so much **** when you are around her, and she is kind of a priss. I think the only reason I liked her was because she is pretty and she initiated conversations with me. Sorry I wrote so much guys, I just don't know where to go from here.

[someone447]

**** it, I'll do it in here haha. Let me preface this by saying I am an idiot. I met this girl at the beginning of school last fall. She is a friend of my best friend's girl friend. I thought she was pretty attractive, and she started a bunch of conversations with me online and ****. Me being me, this was enough to give the impression that there might actually be something. Well a little bit after the first I met her she got back with her boyfriend of three years or some ****, and she still keeps talking to me (should have been a red flag). I still like her, and she ends up breaking up with her boyfriend a little while after Halloween. She was single for a while, but I never made any moves or anything and she ended up with another guy, still talking to me all the time. She asked me all the the time to go party. She breaks up with this guy after Thanksgiving, and I really want to do something. I never ask to hang out one-on-one or anything, and we go drinking almost every weekend. Well in December we all go to a buddie's apartment, and I guess she picked up a vibe there with one of my friends who live there, because they start going out later. My friend even asked me if I was cool with him trying to go after her, because I think he knew I liked her. I said it was cool and whatever. It's not like I was making any actual moves, and I'm not going to say "**** no, don't do anything so I can continue to sit around with my thumb up my ass". She still wants to talk to me all time over Christmas Break. They eventually break up when we get back to school. My buddy even asked me if he should break up with her. She's still "single" right now, and around a week ago she started hitting on another one of my friends who I am going to live with next year. I kept asking if she wanted to hang out with my roommate and watch TV or whatever, but I was getting this paranoid vibe that she was being lazy or making **** up. And that leaves us at this weekend. I knew she was still going to be single this upcoming weekend, and the whole week I thinking I should just ask her to a casual lunch on Saturday if she didn't have anyone for V-Day. Of course, I never asked. Well Saturday afternoon I learn that she was going to hang out with that one friend I'm going to live with next year and "watch a movie and make a puzzle". Later that night me, her, him, and my other buddies were going to party at one of my friend's houses. I am pretty ******* upset to learn that she was going to do something with him (I know I probably didn't have a right to be), and I try to ignore her the entire night. I end up BS-ing with her a little bit, but I don't get comfy with her. I wanted to make it obvious. Later that night we are about to leave and ride back in a buddy's car, and the future roommate and her are hugging and ****, thanking each other for being valentines. This is really bothering me, and a few seconds later I hear them kiss a few times. The whole entire night my other friends were telling me "dude, he told me he doesn't like her... they just want to be friends", and I have to be next to this ****. I know it doesn't make sense, but goddamnit that hurt so bad. I didn't want to talk the rest of the night, but I ended up talking with my best friend and his girlfriend. We were all drunk, and I'm not sure how much of it stuck or made sense. The next day I tell myself I am done with this *****. I am sure I was wasting my time. I didn't talk to her on Sunday and most of today. Tonight she starts a conversation with me saying "i know you are upset at me... me and ___ aren't anything". I just tell her it doesn't matter, and she says she still wants to be friends. I don't remember what I said, but I didn't give her anything definite or concrete. I know I am going to have to see her in the future seeing as she is my best friend's girlfriend's best friend (if that makes any sense). I am such a ******* ******. I didn't feel anything on Sunday morning; I was just numb. My friend tries convincing me that she is a dumb, selfish ***** who doesn't care about anyone, and I am starting to see it. When I look at it from this angle she just looks like someone who doesn't know what she wants. She complains about so much **** when you are around her, and she is kind of a priss. I think the only reason I liked her was because she is pretty and she initiated conversations with me. Sorry I wrote so much guys, I just don't know where to go from here.

It's high school, NO ONE knows what they want. There is only one person to blame in this, and thats you. If you liked her you needed to make a move. You didn't, and now you don't have a chance, just let it go. There are plenty of other girls, no use getting so attached to one while you are young, especially one you aren't dating. Pining after someone isn't healthy.

[jballa838]

I think he is in college.

['cuse-213]

Lots of words lol. That girl is an attention *****. Bottom line, nothing good to come from her besides poon.

[someone447]

Well yeah, that's implied. I'm just saying that it's neevr a bad idea to pretend you are even when you're not.

I don't agree. I'm not someone who plays games like that, and I'll quit talking to a girl who pulls **** like that with me. Life is too short to do all that ********. My philosophy is, if I'm busy I'm busy. If I'm not, I'm not. If you don't like that you can **** off.