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summond822
01-16-2009, 06:12 PM
First off let me say that some of these picks are not going to make fans of certain teams happy. I acknowledge that and I didn't even like some of these picks as I projected them, but I ended up going with who I thought would go where and how the draft would actually pan out.

Constructive criticism is always appreciated. I probably don't have all of the team's needs right or a player that you would have rather had at a certain spot than who I gave you.

Flipped a coin on the Eagles/Cardinals and Ravens/Steelers to see who would go where.

Some of these trades are out there, I'll admit. However, I felt the need to at least attempt it and until we are closer to the draft and actually have a feel for which teams plan to trade down and who is coveting what player. So, with that to the mock.

Trades:
Kansas City trades #3 to Cleveland for #5, 69 and a future 3rd
Seattle trades #4 to Buffalo for #11, 43 (2nd), and 107 (4th)
Denver trades #12 to Chicago for #18, 82 (3rd), 2010 3rd
New Orleans trades #14 to Tampa Bay for #19, 83(3rd), 147 (5th)

1. Detroit – Matt Stafford, QB, Georgia
This is the normal pick. The only other thing that the Lions might do here is to pass on Stafford and try to take Sanchez by moving around with their other first rounder. However, in this case they take Stafford here and hope that a future LT falls to them at their second pick.

2. St. Louis – Andre Smith, OT, Alabama
Smith is considered by many to be the top OT in this draft. St. Louis gets someone who can play immediately on the right side and slide over to the left when Pace gets hurt again this upcoming season. The worst kept secret in the league last year was how bad the Rams wanted Jake Long.

3. Cleveland – Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
Cleveland needs a true #1 corner. They have doubts that he falls past Seattle, so they trade up to make sure they get their man.

4. Buffalo – Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest
Seattle missed out on Jenkins and they don’t believe that any of the OT’s or Crabtree are worth this pick. So instead they trade down and pick up more picks. Buffalo on the other hand can’t resist moving up and grabbing the best LB prospect in this class and he ties down their OLB spot.

5. Kansas City – Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
Kansas City, once again attempting to become the darlings of the draft, are already moving around trying to get more picks. They traded down and still get a top DE prospect. Orakpo should help out their defense even as a rookie. He has pass rush skills that should be able to be stopped easily.

6. Cincinnati – Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
It is tempting to give the Bengals Michael Crabtree here, since they likely lose Houshmanzadeh and the only thing that Ocho-Cinco catches with any regularity is publicity. However, I think that if they can manage to balance out their running game, they should get much better next season. They either decide to go with an OT here or they go running back. Since it has been proven that you can select productive running backs after round one, I believe that they go the OT route, even with their wealth already at the position.

7. Oakland – Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
I am sorry Raider’s fans, but I am completely serious about this pick. Everyone knows that Al Davis puts more on physical skills than anything else, and Maclin fits his play-calling style of wanting to have vertical threats at WR. The smart pick here is to take one of the other remaining OT’s. If Davis decides to upgrade his defense and replace Nmadi (can’t get his last name right), then they may take Vontae Davis who is likely going to have a ridiculous showing at the combine. Percy Harvin may actually get consideration here, knowing how Davis loves him some speed. Everyone assumes that Crabtree will be the pick here (assuming he is here), but Davis favors speedy deep threats over bigger WR's.

8. Jacksonville – Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss
The Jacksonville running game wasn’t that good this year. They takes steps to remedy that and in addition secure a top OT for the future. If they decide that Fred Taylor is at the end of his road, they may decide to take Knowshon Moreno or “Beanie” Wells.

9. Green Bay – Aaron Maybin, DE, Penn State
Well, with Mays going back to school, Green Bay is forced to look another direction than safety with this pick. I think that they take Maybin as an additional DE in their rotation this year, and a replacement as their ends get older.

10. San Francisco – Everette Brown, DE, Florida State
I am assuming that Singletary’s emphasis is going to be on the defensive side. Another thought here is a RB to spell Gore, since I think that Singletary will run the ball a lot more to prevent opposing defenses from getting to Hill at will. They probably look for another RB in later rounds. Crabtree deserves some thought here because I don’t think that their WR’s have really shown much lately. Brown may be a better fit for a 3-4, but he should be able to get pressure off the edge.

11. Seattle – Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
Seattle has a luxury of choosing which position they want to upgrade. Having missed out of Jenkins earlier, they moved back. Now, they are closer to the spot where they could take B.J. Raji. However, they also have to look at some of the other spots of need. William Moore gets heavy consideration, but I don’t think that Seattle goes that route. Sanchez is almost affordable back at this position. Crabtree is not as much of a stretch as he is at 4. And Jason Smith allows them to upgrade their OL. At the end of the day, I think that they take Smith, as an eventual replacement for Jones and to immediately help improve their run game, even though I believe that defense is a bigger problem. Smith is also more likely to make an instant impact than any of the other players.

12. Chicago – Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
Denver doesn’t like what they see here, so they elect to trade down. Chicago trades up to grab a player that many consider a top 10 pick. Crabtree is more of a go up and get it type of WR and he has size. Something the Bear’s are lacking in their offense.

13. Washington – Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
As far as physical specimens go, Johnson has got to be up there among the list at DE. His motor has been questioned, and his production certainly hasn’t matched his potential. That said, Washington takes a flyer here and hopes that he will learn from Jason Taylor on the job next year, if Taylor comes back.

14. Tampa Bay – Mark Sanchez, QB, USC
Tampa Bay decides to jump in front of New York to select Mark Sanchez. Tampa Bay may decide to just sit and wait, but other than Minnesota I don’t see any team willing to jump ahead of anybody else for the players on the board here. Tampa Bay will have the option to either bring back Garcia for another year and let Sanchez sit behind him, or they can throw him into the fire immediately.

15. Houston – Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
Houston will likely lose a key part of their defense this year in Dunta Robinson. Vontae Davis is an electric player who is probably going to work out and gain himself this position. Houston may elect to go with William Moore or Alphonso Smith, but ultimately, I think this pick goes to defense.

16. San Diego – Rey Maualuga, LB, USC
It’s feels strange giving San Diego a LB when they have such a good defense. However, they do need some help on the inside, and that is where Maualuga comes in. He will add another explosive hitter to that defense.

17. New York Jets – Chris “Beanie” Wells, RB, Ohio State
The Jets have some decisions to make next season. They are old at QB and RB. Their defense lived on luck at times this last year. Will they transition out of the 3-4 with Mangini gone? Doubtful, so they may look to add some more pieces to it here. However, I believe that with the uncertainty at the QB position, they add another RB to help carry the load with Thomas Jones, who is up there in years and may not have many more games left in the tank.

18. Denver – William Moore, S, Missouri
I penciled in Moore like 5 or 6 times already. I have changed my mind every time. However, this is the team that I ultimately see him going to. Whether it is at 12 or at a later position that they trade to, they need to fill the hole left by Lynch. Raji would also help them improve their defense that was, lets be honest, atrocious at times.

19. New Orleans – James Laurinitus, LB, Ohio State
New Orleans needs some help. They took Ellis last year, so Raji isn’t a need. Alphonso Smith is an option, but he is a bit undersized. I end up thinking that they take Laurinitus here as a replacement to Vilma.

20. Detroit (from Dallas) – Eben Britton, OT, Arizona
Well, an elite OT didn’t fall to Detroit, but they were still able to pick up someone who can be the blindside protector of Stafford for years to come.

21. Philadelphia – Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State
Philadelphia has some leeway with where to go here. I think that they ultimately take Brandon Pettigrew to give McNabb another target to throw to. We all know that they didn’t have a consistent TE this year. Pettigrew may not be as flashy as Gresham would have been, but he will fill an obvious need, and is the most complete TE in the class. This years John Carlson perhaps?

22. Minnesota – Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
If Sanchez had fallen here, I still don’t think that Minnesota would have taken him. Tavaris Jackson played well once he came in again and probably earned himself another year at least. I don’t really know where they decide to go with this pick. Perhaps it’s corner, in this case Alphonso Smith who is on the short side, but he is very physical.

23. New England – Clint Sintim, LB, Virginia
If Sanchez falls to New England, they may decide to take him (doubtful), seeing as how the last USC QB they plugged in with limited college experience seemed to work out pretty well. I believe that they continue getting younger on defense, since you can only plug old guys into certain spots for so long before it all falls apart. They continue their tradition of strong LB player with Clint Sintim.

24. Atlanta – B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
Atlanta’s improvement this year caught many people off guard. This year they continue improving their defense. Raji is a load in the middle and should make an immediate impact.

25. Miami – Brian Cushing, LB, USC
Miami replaces Zach Thomas with Cushing. Cushing next to Porter should allow him to learn the nuances of the position and if he can stay healthy who knows how good Cushing could get.

26. Baltimore – Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
It is easy to give Baltimore DHB, however I really think that they likely go with a LB here seeing as how both Suggs and Lewis are FA. Since there are no LB’s worthy of this pick, my next thought was CB since Rolle is getting up there. However, same problem. The next thing to do is to bring in a WR who can go up and get the ball and who will help Flacco’s development.

27. Indianapolis – Peria Jerry, DT, Ole Miss
Percy Harvin garners attention here since Marvin Harrison is looking like he might be over the hill. However, their defense is still undersize and without Bob Sanders in run support they really struggle. They take one of the top DT’s here in Jerry to upgrade their run defense.

28. Philadelphia (from Carolina) – Louis Delmas, S, Western Michigan
Brian Dawkins has once again been showing us that he is amazing. The defense of Philadelphia has been lights out lately. Their offense could use some other playmaker’s besides Brian Westbrook, but taking Pettigrew opens up the field a little bit more and he will be able to block for Westbrook. This pick is a luxury pick, and I think that the luxury that they choose to spend it on is the eventual successor to Brian Dawkins. Delmas will be a physical force like Dawkins, and Dawkins can teach him the nuances of the position in the NFL.

29. New York Giants – Percy Harvin, WR, Florida
The Giants offense really went downhill once Burress was taken out of the equation. There are really no big WR’s to replace Burress, and if they are smart they likely bring him back. With Jacobs a FA this year, they may decide to draft a big replacement, but I don’t think it will be in the first round. I think that they take an explosive playmaker in Harvin, who if it wasn’t for injury concerns would have been a Top 10 pick in the draft.

30. Tennessee – Darius Butler, CB, UCONN
Butler goes a little earlier than usual here, simply because there really isn’t much value for them at this pick. With Haynesworth potentially leaving, that is going to leave a huge hole in the middle of that defense that no DT in this draft could possibly fill. Instead, I went with the CB position since I don’t think there is the value here at LB.

31. Arizona – Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia
Arizona’s surge through the playoff’s has been eye-opening to many people around the league. However, right now I think that they are overachieving, and their staff looks for ways to make them a more balanced team. Tim Hightower looks like he is only a short-yardage back, and James looked rejuvenated for a stretch, but it looks like he can’t carry the load for a full season. Moreno is a home run hitter and should pair well with Hightower.

32. Pittsburgh – Max Unger, OL, Oregon
Pittsburgh has made it this far by their defense. They still don’t really have the power back to team with Parker, but they did draft Mendenhall last year, so I think that he will have a crack at it. I think that they take Unger, someone who is capable of playing any spot on the line, to help bolster that line. Will Unger start next year? I don’t know, but I do know that his versatility will be welcomed in Pittsburgh.

wonderbredd24
01-16-2009, 06:17 PM
In a draft where the Browns only have 4 picks (right now), they trade up to get a guy who will be there at 5 and would be a value pick?

wicket
01-16-2009, 06:18 PM
I like the trade a lot but would prolly pick raji to play alongside ellis or cushing as a replacement for shanle, dont think vilma leaves, if he does JL is the perfect pick although i really dont like him.

Zyro_1014
01-16-2009, 06:20 PM
well you obviously didnt flip a coin with the right teams, because thats no where near where the eagles are going to be picking.

Also....not too high on the Pettigrew pick. Would rather take someone like Duke Robinson

thebow305
01-16-2009, 06:25 PM
Great Phins pick!!

And just curious, why would you NOT want Seattle to take Crabtree?

Bigburt63
01-16-2009, 06:31 PM
Great patriots pick...but i seriously, seriously doubt that the patriots would ever consider taking Sanchez. If he were to be there at their pick, I would think that the only difference that would change in their strategy is a trade with another team looking to get back into Round 1, or move up to snag Sanchez.

BmoreBlackByrdz
01-16-2009, 06:34 PM
terrific raven pick but some of the trades I just don't agree with.

princefielder28
01-16-2009, 06:36 PM
If TT selects Aaron Maybin I will go to 1265, march up to his office and kick his a$$

possible pick though

summond822
01-16-2009, 06:42 PM
Great Phins pick!!

And just curious, why would you NOT want Seattle to take Crabtree?

Crabtree just strikes me as too much of a risk to take at 4. I almost had them take him at 11, but I ended up going with the direction that I felt that Seattle would go if they were forced to trade back.

In my sig I only say they won't take him with the 4th pick. They may take him later, but it won't be at 4.

Zyro: I gave one team heads and the other tails and flipped it. The Eagles were Heads. Sorry I don't have Harvey Dent's lucky coin or one like it.

summond822
01-16-2009, 06:43 PM
In a draft where the Browns only have 4 picks (right now), they trade up to get a guy who will be there at 5 and would be a value pick?

Because in my mock I would have had Jenkins go to the Seahawks at 4. I didn't know that they have only 4 draft picks otherwise I would have ruled out that trade.

Geo
01-16-2009, 06:45 PM
27. Indianapolis – Peria Jerry, DT, Ole Miss
Percy Harvin garners attention here since Marvin Harrison is looking like he might be over the hill. However, their defense is still undersize and without Bob Sanders in run support they really struggle. They take one of the top DT’s here in Jerry to upgrade their run defense.
If I can chime in and add my thoughts, and they might be a bit funny:

I'm not sure there's another rookie who would immediately contribute more to the Colts than Jerry. Other than maybe Raji, if he is a fit. Jerry is probably the guy, I think he's a great fit as a player. That being said, I would definitely go Percy Harvin instead here. Without a second of hesitation.

I'd go for the 21-year-old playmaker over the 25-year-old DT, and I guess you could call durability concerns a wash. I'll take Harvin or Heyward-Bey and starting grooming them now, meanwhile I can draft a NT later in the midrounds and look for a stud DT or two next year with the loaded 2010 DT class. But there's a much dimmer outlook of finding a wideout prospect of the caliber of a Harvin, a Heyward-Bey, or maybe even a Britt, next year in this range.

Got to go BPA.

I know it sounds a bit crazy, and feel free to dismiss me in the meantime. ;)

GB12
01-16-2009, 06:45 PM
9. Green Bay – Aaron Maybin, DE, Penn State
Well, with Mays going back to school, Green Bay is forced to look another direction than safety with this pick. I think that they take Maybin as an additional DE in their rotation this year, and a replacement as their ends get older.

Bad pick, even worse analysis. We're forced to look another direction than safety? DE is a much bigger need than safety. We don't need a safety at all. Jason Smith or Everette Brown.

BeerBaron
01-16-2009, 06:53 PM
I do love me some Crabs! Mini-Larry Fitz would be welcomed here.

summond822
01-16-2009, 06:54 PM
If I can chime in and add my thoughts, and they might be a bit funny:

I'm not sure there's another rookie who would immediately contribute more to the Colts than Jerry. Other than maybe Raji, if he is a fit. Jerry is probably the guy, I think he's a great fit as a player. That being said, I would definitely go Percy Harvin instead here. Without a second of hesitation.

I'd go for the 21-year-old playmaker over the 25-year-old DT, and I guess you could call durability concerns a wash. I'll take Harvin or Heyward-Bey and starting grooming them now, meanwhile I can draft a NT later in the midrounds and look for a stud DT or two next year with the loaded 2010 DT class. But there's a much dimmer outlook of finding a wideout prospect of the caliber of a Harvin, a Heyward-Bey, or maybe even a Britt, next year in this range.

Got to go BPA.

I know it sounds a bit crazy, and feel free to dismiss me in the meantime. ;)

I understand. I got lost reading it at first, but I do understand what you are saying. Subconsciously I probably have reservations about giving Harvin to anyone, cause he would be my dream pick in the second.

If Bob Sanders could stay healthy, then they wouldn't ever need to upgrade their defense. But your probably right that they could easily find a good DT who can make an impact as a rookie later on in the draft. WR's with the impact of Harvin are much harder to come by.

woodyx02
01-16-2009, 06:59 PM
Good Niner pick. Thanks for not putting a QB there. I do think Crabtree deserves consideration if he falls that far though even though WR is not a need I think he may be too good to pass up. I do agree that RB is a need but 5th round at the earliest and shouldn't even be considered this high.

regoob2
01-16-2009, 07:03 PM
Im ok with the trade up. Good pick.

Geo
01-16-2009, 07:10 PM
Although Angelo trading up might be an impossibility. :D

G-Men88
01-16-2009, 07:30 PM
Give the Giants Knoshown instead

vidae
01-16-2009, 08:07 PM
Good KC pick and good trade. We could use more picks.

Menardo75
01-16-2009, 10:40 PM
Nice niner pick.

Bills2083
01-16-2009, 11:30 PM
I like Curry but the Bills have way too many needs to be giving up that much.

twista6002
01-17-2009, 12:34 AM
Safety isn't a 1st day need for the Eagles.

gdamac
01-17-2009, 12:38 AM
It's not a horrible pick for Oakland, if they find a OT in the 2nd round. I would prefer if they traded down and took him.

Red_BearSkins
01-17-2009, 09:37 PM
Michael Johnson to the Skins at #13? No. Sorry. Not happening. There is no way Blache would let Cerrato take someone like that without strangling Cerrato first.

SimonRath
01-17-2009, 09:43 PM
i can not see Crabtree falling to Chicago. but im sure Chicago fans would be happy :)

DiG
01-17-2009, 11:00 PM
great trade down situation for the skins. if we stayed put raji over johnson every day of the week. hell id take almost anyone over johnson.

Quindalin
01-17-2009, 11:15 PM
if we take JL he's playing OLB because we're resigning Vilma.

proshoota25
01-17-2009, 11:22 PM
nice patriots pick

Hawkeye
01-18-2009, 02:50 PM
I love what you did for Seattle. But the defense is not the bigger problem. It was more of the DC not knowing how to call the right plays. And its hard to be as good as last year when they were missing key players do to injuries during the year. Make sure you go RB in the 2nd tho. But anyways great job so far.