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Scott Wright
01-18-2009, 11:22 AM
Check it out and stop back often!!!

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/Senior-Bowl.php

thenewfeature06
01-18-2009, 11:23 AM
im not sure that link works

BRAVEHEART
01-18-2009, 11:25 AM
It works for me.

Brent
01-18-2009, 11:39 AM
In fact, it was literally -25 below zero the day before I left. I have no idea why I live there...
Are you serious? How can you live in a place like that? It's snowed once here in the past 10+ years.

Hines
01-18-2009, 11:57 AM
Will the practices be on NFLN?

The Dynasty
01-18-2009, 01:24 PM
Will the practices be on NFLN?

Yes, They are on Monday from 4 to 5:30 and on Tuesday 5 to 7. I couldn't look past Tuesday on Direct TV so I don't know the other times but I'm sure that they are around those times.

CashmoneyDrew
01-18-2009, 01:38 PM
That's the best you saw at Mephis' airport Scott? Last time I was there I saw Samuel L. Mother ******* Jackson!

CantStopGregJones
01-18-2009, 02:02 PM
Scott is there a reason you don't have Connor Barwin listed in the weigh-ins? I know for 100% certain he was invited. I don't see a one year defender turning down the senior bowl either.

bearsfan_51
01-18-2009, 02:13 PM
Minnesota is awesome. The cold weather keeps a lot of undesireable people out. Makes me want to move to the North Pole.

Xiomera
01-18-2009, 02:15 PM
im not sure that link works

Yeah, if I'm supposed to be seeing anything but a blank template, it isn't working for me either.

Hines
01-18-2009, 02:17 PM
Isn't working for me either.

derza222
01-18-2009, 02:18 PM
Yeah, if I'm supposed to be seeing anything but a blank template, it isn't working for me either.

Very well may be your browser, or I believe the font size that you're using in the browser? Doesn't work for me in IE, but Safari it's fine.

EDIT: If you're using IE and change text size to largest, the link should work, it does for me now at least.

Xiomera
01-18-2009, 02:27 PM
Very well may be your browser, or I believe the font size that you're using in the browser? Doesn't work for me in IE, but Safari it's fine.

EDIT: If you're using IE and change text size to largest, the link should work, it does for me now at least.

Thanks much. That works.

PACKmanN
01-18-2009, 02:46 PM
when do the weigh-ins happen?

derza222
01-18-2009, 02:48 PM
Thanks much. That works.

Not a problem.

From your blog, you make a real nice point Scott, Barwin listed as a tight end is a major head scratcher. Wouldn't have caught that had you not mentioned it. I wonder if and hope it's a misprint because that really can't be good for his stock at all. Just makes no sense.

yboord028
01-18-2009, 03:05 PM
when do the weigh-ins happen?

Monday 10:30 AM according to the schedule.

giantsfan
01-18-2009, 03:20 PM
Are you serious? How can you live in a place like that? It's snowed once here in the past 10+ years.

Snow's not a problem. If it's snowing at least you know it's above 20. Winter gets bad when it's too cold too snow.

Geo
01-18-2009, 03:21 PM
Scott is there a reason you don't have Connor Barwin listed in the weigh-ins? I know for 100% certain he was invited. I don't see a one year defender turning down the senior bowl either.
1. Thanks for reading Scott's blog.

2. Check tight ends.

CantStopGregJones
01-18-2009, 03:29 PM
1. Thanks for reading Scott's blog.

2. Check tight ends.

Didin't know I had to read Scott Wright's Blog :roll:

ironman4579
01-18-2009, 05:06 PM
Thanks for agreeing with what I said last week about Laurianitais last week Scott. I really believe not going hurts him and we'll continue to see him slide back to the late first or even early second range.

Geo
01-18-2009, 05:07 PM
I can't believe Michael Johnson isn't participating. Come on, it's like the kid wants to be labeled a fraud and a workout warrior (with the negative connotation).

ironman4579
01-18-2009, 05:12 PM
I can't believe Michael Johnson isn't participating. Come on, it's like the kid wants to be labeled a fraud and a workout warrior (with the negative connotation).

That one was also a real surprise to me. I figured he'd definately be there. I agree, it's a real mistake for him not to be there. I almost look at it like if you aren't a sure fire lock top 10 pick no matter what, you go.

Xiomera
01-18-2009, 05:13 PM
I can't believe Michael Johnson isn't participating. Come on, it's like the kid wants to be labeled a fraud and a workout warrior (with the negative connotation).

Agreed. I do NOT want this guy in a Lions uniform. He is Kalimba Edwards 2.0

ironman4579
01-18-2009, 05:20 PM
Agreed. I do NOT want this guy in a Lions uniform. He is Kalimba Edwards 2.0

Agreed. I can see probably 5 guys at least I'd take at DE before Johnson. He has bust written all over him IMO.

giantsfan
01-18-2009, 07:09 PM
Michael johnson really needs to land in the right spot with the right coaches to motivate him and develop his game and intensity through competition for playing time.

wicket
01-18-2009, 07:16 PM
the links in the senior bowl central page aint working for me

Smokey Joe
01-18-2009, 08:11 PM
Minnesota is awesome. The cold weather keeps a lot of undesireable people out. Makes me want to move to the North Pole.
The cold weather didn't keep Al Franken out... However, I do love the cold and would love to live somewhere where it is snowing and cold all year round.

What time is the Senior Bowl game on Saturday?

Babylon
01-18-2009, 10:22 PM
[QUOTE=Smokey Joe;1441025]The cold weather didn't keep Al Franken out... However, I do love the cold and would love to live somewhere where it is snowing and cold all year round.

Try Buffalo, on second thought they have Dems running that state too, you better move to Alaska.

holt_bruce81
01-19-2009, 12:49 AM
Was Chase Coffman invited and declined because of his foot or was he not even invited?

JRTPlaya21
01-19-2009, 01:07 AM
Was Chase Coffman invited and declined because of his foot or was he not even invited?

http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Players/List/2009-Big-Board/-31.-Chase-Coffman-TE.html

underscore
01-19-2009, 05:47 AM
the links in the senior bowl central page aint working for me

I commonly get 404 errors on links on this site. Clicking on the link a second time usually works.

wicket
01-19-2009, 06:08 AM
I commonly get 404 errors on links on this site. Clicking on the link a second time usually works.

thanks but it are actually the perceived links in that main page itself that are not working for me (well i cant even click on them as links) the mainpage loads fine

ATLDirtyBirds
01-19-2009, 09:02 AM
I can't believe Michael Johnson isn't participating. Come on, it's like the kid wants to be labeled a fraud and a workout warrior (with the negative connotation).


I'm a big Michael Johnson fan, but I've got to say that this is disappointing. Hopefully he falls to Atlanta in Round 2 now. :)

kwilk103
01-19-2009, 09:45 AM
i get the 404 errors too

and when i dont, i cant see anything

Brent
01-19-2009, 09:57 AM
i get the 404 errors too

and when i dont, i cant see anything
If I get 404 errors all I have to do is hit the back button and click the link again. I think it's more to do with my browser and ad-blocking stuff than Scott's site.

kwilk103
01-19-2009, 10:04 AM
is there even anything up yet?

i see practice reports, press conference notes, etc but theres nothing to click on

georgiafan
01-19-2009, 10:11 AM
If it's not working for you click page - text size and change it to largest.

truth393
01-19-2009, 10:11 AM
is there even anything up yet?

i see practice reports, press conference notes, etc but theres nothing to click on


I see the same thing. But I think will see some thing around 4pm.

ironman4579
01-19-2009, 10:14 AM
Again, if you have Internet Explorer, you have to change you text size to "largest" to see the reports.

kwilk103
01-19-2009, 10:15 AM
Again, if you have Internet Explorer, you have to change you text size to "largest" to see the reports.

how do i do that?

ironman4579
01-19-2009, 10:16 AM
how do i do that?

What version do you have?

georgiafan
01-19-2009, 10:17 AM
how do i do that?

under page on the top right hand side

kwilk103
01-19-2009, 10:19 AM
What version do you have?

internet explorer 7

kwilk103
01-19-2009, 10:20 AM
i got it

thanks

PossumBoy9
01-19-2009, 11:10 AM
Anybody know why Jason Smith elected not to go to Mobile?

Don Vito
01-19-2009, 12:09 PM
Ole Miss WR Mike Wallace got added to the roster. He is a burner and a big time deep threat, he could make a couple big plays in the game.

drowe
01-19-2009, 12:26 PM
so, some weigh in updates were posted. we now have confirmation that Herman Johnson and Phil Loadholt are on a steady diet of small children.

619
01-19-2009, 12:28 PM
These players dropped out: Aaron Curry, Jason Smith, Demetrius Byrd, Michael Johnson, Tyson Jackson, Louis Murphy, Javon Ringer, Duke Robinson, Jarron Gilbert, James Laurinaitis, Eugene Monroe

A few of those names still have something to prove so it is disappointing. No one probably benefits more from this than Oher who can now capitalize on Smith and Monroe's absences.

SeanTaylorRIP
01-19-2009, 12:29 PM
Well Herrman Johnson measuring at 6-7" 382 is right around where I thought that massive man would go. I wish he projected better to RT. Interesting to see how Derrick Williams measured as Scott said he was impressed. Hopefully it had to do with height because every inch for him matters. I'm thinking though Scott was more impressed with his build as he's very compact. Also great to hear that Sintim measured impressively. The guy is big, long, bulky, and lean all at the same time. I'm guessing Raji was built like a fire hydrant but he's a NT so I don't care if he's a bit flabby. Can't wait for Scott's descriptions on the shapes of their bodies lol. Hopefully some new terminology this year for laughs.

rockio42
01-19-2009, 12:42 PM
Snow's not a problem. If it's snowing at least you know it's above 20. Winter gets bad when it's too cold too snow.

which is the problem in St. Louis right now...its to freaking cold to snow

rockio42
01-19-2009, 12:44 PM
Yea seriously no Jason Smith...that pisses me off

Geason Noceur
01-19-2009, 12:49 PM
That page is not working for me. All I see are three headings and that's all. Anybody else having the same problem?

kwilk103
01-19-2009, 12:51 PM
That page is not working for me. All I see are three headings and that's all. Anybody else having the same problem?

change text size to largest

yourfavestoner
01-19-2009, 12:53 PM
Louis Murphy is really stupid for not participating.

HeavyLeggedWaistBender
01-19-2009, 12:58 PM
Thanks to everybody helping with the link stuff, I had the same problem. Muey propage.

Im really excited to see how Bomar plays being a Chicago fan. Hopefully he could work his way to a legit 2nd rounder.

I love this time of year <3 (lol)

rockio42
01-19-2009, 01:05 PM
Is how weak the group of DE's making everyone else mad?

foozball
01-19-2009, 01:06 PM
wonder what william moore weighs in at

SeanTaylorRIP
01-19-2009, 01:07 PM
Lawrence Sidbury could really make a name for himself this week. He impressed in the East/West shrine. Larry English has a chance to shoot up too. IMO Senior bowl week is the start of the Clint Sintim rise to top 15 pick.

giantsfan
01-19-2009, 01:11 PM
The cold weather didn't keep Al Franken out... However, I do love the cold and would love to live somewhere where it is snowing and cold all year round.

Try Buffalo, on second thought they have Dems running that state too, you better move to Alaska.

Buffalo's not that cold, that's why we get so much damn snow, because it hovers in the 25-35 range and we get lake effect snow. Plus the summers are pretty warm and spring's nice.

critesy
01-19-2009, 01:16 PM
all i see is rhett bomar and nathan brown for weigh ins ?

derza222
01-19-2009, 01:18 PM
Lawrence Sidbury could really make a name for himself this week. He impressed in the East/West shrine. Larry English has a chance to shoot up too. IMO Senior bowl week is the start of the Clint Sintim rise to top 15 pick.

Hopefully not, I'd like to see him on the board at #17. I think he could be nasty in the defensive scheme Rex Ryan is going to likely install.

CashmoneyDrew
01-19-2009, 01:19 PM
6'0 for Nathan Brown? There goes his stock.

BRAVEHEART
01-19-2009, 01:20 PM
all i see is rhett bomar and nathan brown for weigh ins ?

So I'm not the only one?

CashmoneyDrew
01-19-2009, 01:21 PM
So I'm not the only one?

That's the only weigh-ins I see as well.

Hines
01-19-2009, 01:24 PM
The practices start in about 90 minutes. I am excited to see who does well. Sidbury I think could jump to early second day. I hope he falls to the 5th to the Steelers.

Should be a nice week of practices and competition. I wished some of the top guys were still in it though.

Unbiased
01-19-2009, 01:26 PM
That's the only weigh-ins I see as well.

Those are the only two he has up at the moment. The Johnson/Loadholt stuff is in his blog.

I think he has the arms and hand measurements backwards for the two QBs.

Brent
01-19-2009, 01:30 PM
Well Herrman Johnson measuring at 6-7" 382 is right around where I thought that massive man would go. I wish he projected better to RT. Interesting to see how Derrick Williams measured as Scott said he was impressed. Hopefully it had to do with height because every inch for him matters. I'm thinking though Scott was more impressed with his build as he's very compact. Also great to hear that Sintim measured impressively. The guy is big, long, bulky, and lean all at the same time. I'm guessing Raji was built like a fire hydrant but he's a NT so I don't care if he's a bit flabby. Can't wait for Scott's descriptions on the shapes of their bodies lol. Hopefully some new terminology this year for laughs.

"LSU offensive lineman Herman Johnson, who was a tad taller than 6-7 and weighed 382 pounds. He also had hands that measured 11 1/4 inches across and had 36-inch arms. Most arm lengths today were around 30 inches"

Hines
01-19-2009, 01:35 PM
"LSU offensive lineman Herman Johnson, who was a tad taller than 6-7 and weighed 382 pounds. He also had hands that measured 11 1/4 inches across and had 36-inch arms. Most arm lengths today were around 30 inches"

I think that right there says he could be a good RT. Maybe LT?

keylime_5
01-19-2009, 01:40 PM
no shocking inconsistencies amongst the hts/wts and what was expected. Pretty amazing how big Herman Johnson is..has there ever been a 6-7/382 guy at the senior bowl or combine ever?

regoob2
01-19-2009, 01:48 PM
no shocking inconsistencies amongst the hts/wts and what was expected. Pretty amazing how big Herman Johnson is..has there ever been a 6-7/382 guy at the senior bowl or combine ever?Are those the official numbers?

Unbiased
01-19-2009, 01:51 PM
Are those the official numbers?

HJ was actually 6'7 3/8" 382 lbs according to Scott.

Brent
01-19-2009, 01:51 PM
Are those the official numbers?
Yes, that is what one of the Niners beat writers was saying.

regoob2
01-19-2009, 01:52 PM
HJ was actually 6'7 3/8" 382 lbs according to Scott.
On the link all I saw was the 2 QBs. Can you post the link. Will +rep.

Brent
01-19-2009, 01:53 PM
On the link all I saw was the 2 QBs. Can you post the link. Will +rep.

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/49ers/archives/018709.html

The one player who produced a murmur through the crowd was LSU offensive lineman Herman Johnson, who was a tad taller than 6-7 and weighed 382 pounds. He also had hands that measured 11 1/4 inches across and had 36-inch arms. Most arm lengths today were around 30 inches. In fact, after Johnson's arm lenth was announced, Phillips turned to Jones and said in astonishment, "His arms are six inches longer than mine."

Unbiased
01-19-2009, 01:53 PM
On the link all I saw was the 2 QBs. Can you post the link. Will +rep.

It's in his senior bowl blog. He just gives an overview for after the weigh ins were over. No rep needed.

FuzzyGopher
01-19-2009, 01:57 PM
Yikes, Pat White is 6' 190. The guy has an uphill battle to make it at any position.

Geo
01-19-2009, 01:58 PM
That's not bad as a receiver. Which is what I think his best shot is, personally.

Also, I'm pleased as punch that Mike Wallace of Ole Miss gets to participate thanks to Louis Murphy bowing out. Wallace is a guy I like.

Hines
01-19-2009, 02:00 PM
I think Pat White could be a really good return man in the pros.

kwilk103
01-19-2009, 02:00 PM
am i the only still getting only 2 qbs showing weigh-ins

UKfan
01-19-2009, 02:02 PM
am i the only still getting only 2 qbs showing weigh-ins

Nope, that is all that I am getting too

kwilk103
01-19-2009, 02:04 PM
why is it surprising pat white checked in at 6' 190?

wvu had him listed at 6'1 192

UKfan
01-19-2009, 02:04 PM
Nevermind I see some more now

Brent
01-19-2009, 02:05 PM
why is it surprising pat white checked in at 6' 190?
Because that one inch is oh so important?

FuzzyGopher
01-19-2009, 02:06 PM
I thought he was bigger than that, but I guess i was wrong.

kwilk103
01-19-2009, 02:09 PM
Because that one inch is oh so important?

but from the reactions, you would think he was listed a lot bigger in the wvu media guide

Brent
01-19-2009, 02:10 PM
but from the reactions, you would think he was listed a lot bigger in the wvu media guide
I dont even know, I didnt think he was listed higher than 6'2" anyways.

SeanTaylorRIP
01-19-2009, 02:10 PM
Will like to hear Scott's comments, but 223 appears to be a very solid weight for William Moore.

Brent
01-19-2009, 02:11 PM
I noticed that Clay Matthews came in bigger than Cushing. If he plays well, I wonder if he'll rise as high as Cushing?

regoob2
01-19-2009, 02:12 PM
Will like to hear Scott's comments, but 223 appears to be a very solid weight for William Moore.
It obviously depends how he carries it but I agree. I assume he lost weight.

P-L
01-19-2009, 02:12 PM
Why did Michael Johnson drop out? He had so much to gain by playing.

Hines
01-19-2009, 02:14 PM
Why did Michael Johnson drop out? He had so much to gain by playing.

Was scared.

SeanTaylorRIP
01-19-2009, 02:15 PM
Why did Michael Johnson drop out? He had so much to gain by playing.

He thinks he's a top 10 pick.

Turtlepower
01-19-2009, 02:15 PM
Why did Michael Johnson drop out? He had so much to gain by playing.

My assumption would be that he will put up great workout numbers at the combine and doesn't want to show his flaws at the Senior Bowl to scouts. Those flaws being that he has to play football.

Brent
01-19-2009, 02:22 PM
Those flaws being that he has to play football.
Yeah, I wouldn't touch him if I were a GM.

giantsfan
01-19-2009, 02:34 PM
Brooks Foster's only 6 feet tall, that's disappointing. I was really liking him as a project fourth rounder

BRAVEHEART
01-19-2009, 02:49 PM
Kyle Moore at 6'4 is a disappointment.

truth393
01-19-2009, 02:50 PM
does anybody have a link to watch them practice?

derza222
01-19-2009, 02:52 PM
That's not bad as a receiver. Which is what I think his best shot is, personally.

Also, I'm pleased as punch that Mike Wallace of Ole Miss gets to participate thanks to Louis Murphy bowing out. Wallace is a guy I like.

I like Wallace as well, but am still disappointed Jarrett Dillard hasn't found his way onto a Senior Bowl roster. Would have loved to see him participate.

It obviously depends how he carries it but I agree. I assume he lost weight.

Hopefully the lost weight helps him out some and he has a nice week. It could definitely help his stock big time and show scouts that maybe his junior year tape is a better indication of his abilities than senior year tape.

PACKmanN
01-19-2009, 02:53 PM
zomg Scott please tell me who you saw Ted Thompson pay addition to the most, please :)

jnew76
01-19-2009, 02:55 PM
where should we put our live senior bowl practice observations from NFL Network? Should we start a new thread or post them here?

giantsfan
01-19-2009, 02:55 PM
which is the problem in St. Louis right now...its to freaking cold to snow

That's where we were at the end of last week, but it's started snowing again so it's getting nicer.

Hines
01-19-2009, 02:55 PM
Sorry for my ignorant question, but when you say someone looks soft, what do you mean by that?

marshfield
01-19-2009, 02:56 PM
BIG doesn't do Phil Loadholt justice. I got to meet him last summer though a friend, he's where the myths about giants come from. I've never seen a human being that big before. I'm a pretty big dude, 6 foot, 315lbs, competitive powerlifter. I'm larger then most people and he made me look like a grade schooler.

jnew76
01-19-2009, 02:58 PM
BIG doesn't do Phil Loadholt justice. I got to meet him last summer though a friend, he's where the myths about giants come from. I've never seen a human being that big before. I'm a pretty big dude, 6 foot, 315lbs, competitive powerlifter. I'm larger then most people and he made me look like a grade schooler.

Yeah, but even though his legs would look huge on a normal person, his upper body is so big he has a Kool-Aid Man thing going on.

Babylon
01-19-2009, 03:17 PM
I noticed that Clay Matthews came in bigger than Cushing. If he plays well, I wonder if he'll rise as high as Cushing?

I dont think he's quite the prospect as Cush but he seems to be moving up. Cushing i think adds more options as to where he can play and i think he's better in pass coverage, Matthews is a better pass rusher.

MidwayMonster31
01-19-2009, 03:17 PM
Sorry for my ignorant question, but when you say someone looks soft, what do you mean by that?I think that means that the player is not as muscular as scouts would like him to be. The weight would come from fat instead of muscle.

BRAVEHEART
01-19-2009, 03:21 PM
I dont think he's quite the prospect as Cush but he seems to be moving up. Cushing i think adds more options as to where he can play and i think he's better in pass coverage, Matthews is a better pass rusher.

Pretty spot on.

foozball
01-19-2009, 03:23 PM
Surprises to me....

William Beatty at 6'6 290lbs

William Moore at 6' 223lbs...woulda thought hed be over 230lbs

Geo
01-19-2009, 03:24 PM
Match of the day so far: Derrick Williams vs. Darrius Butler one-on-one. Two great prospects battling.

jballa838
01-19-2009, 03:26 PM
Brandon Gibson is the best WR here. I forgot how good he really was.

foozball
01-19-2009, 03:26 PM
Kyle Moore at 6'4 is a disappointment.

6'4 and a half...pretty much 6'5...his weight is more disappointing than his height IMO. 265lbs is pretty small for 6'5 since he's going to be playing the left side.

keylime_5
01-19-2009, 03:28 PM
6-5/265 is plenty big for the strongside of the defensive line. Most guys who are gonna play base end in a 4-3 end up putting on extra weight once they get into the league anyhow.

Fuzzy Dunlop
01-19-2009, 03:42 PM
I'm not real impressed with what I've seen of Rhett Bomar so far.

BRAVEHEART
01-19-2009, 03:44 PM
6'4 and a half...pretty much 6'5...his weight is more disappointing than his height IMO. 265lbs is pretty small for 6'5 since he's going to be playing the left side.

He was supposed to be a big 6'6, and is instead a big 6'4. This pretty much will keep him at 4-3 DE for sure.

Brent
01-19-2009, 03:45 PM
I'm not real impressed with what I've seen of Rhett Bomar so far.
What were you looking for? 6'2" 220 is about what everyone was expecting.

giantsfan
01-19-2009, 03:46 PM
I dont think he's quite the prospect as Cush but he seems to be moving up. Cushing i think adds more options as to where he can play and i think he's better in pass coverage, Matthews is a better pass rusher.

But Clay looks a lot smoother otu there. Cush is stiff and slow to react, he'll be a workout warrior but he just reminds me too much of Bobby Carpenter.

Fuzzy Dunlop
01-19-2009, 03:49 PM
What were you looking for? 6'2" 220 is about what everyone was expecting.

From watching on NFLN, not from a height/weight standpoint.

Brent
01-19-2009, 03:52 PM
From watching on NFLN, not from a height/weight standpoint.
Oh all right. No tengo red del NFL.

toddmlazarchick
01-19-2009, 03:53 PM
Is there anywhere to watch the practice from today online?

BRAVEHEART
01-19-2009, 03:54 PM
Is there anywhere to watch the practice from today online?

Maybe the official NFL site, doubt you'll find anything live though.

UKfan
01-19-2009, 03:57 PM
This sucks, I want to watch the practice :(

thenewfeature06
01-19-2009, 03:58 PM
at least clips

Babylon
01-19-2009, 04:01 PM
But Clay looks a lot smoother otu there. Cush is stiff and slow to react, he'll be a workout warrior but he just reminds me too much of Bobby Carpenter.


I always though Cushing's strong suit was reacting,especially on delayed blitzes and toss plays but whatever. Bobby Carpenter i thought was a differant player after the knee and god knows what he could do if he ever got away from Dallas.

rockio42
01-19-2009, 04:04 PM
hahahah Hood made like 3 guys look silly with his spin move!

Babylon
01-19-2009, 04:08 PM
What were you looking for? 6'2" 220 is about what everyone was expecting.

About what i expected height wise, Stafford's only 6-2 and change so i dont think anyone is going to scoff at that, i take it these are bare foot measurements.

hellrazor
01-19-2009, 04:15 PM
But Clay looks a lot smoother otu there. Cush is stiff and slow to react, he'll be a workout warrior but he just reminds me too much of Bobby Carpenter.

i dont think so. slow to react is not a term id use to describe cush. carpenter benefited from playing with hawk who was easily the superior lber. cush is considered the best out of all the lbers at usc by most usc insiders. rey is more slow to react than cush.

Brent
01-19-2009, 04:21 PM
i take it these are bare foot measurements.
Yes they are

BRAVEHEART
01-19-2009, 04:21 PM
i dont think so. slow to react is not a term id use to describe cush. carpenter benefited from playing with hawk who was easily the superior lber. cush is considered the best out of all the lbers at usc by most usc insiders. rey is more slow to react than cush.

I wouldn't exactly say "slow to react", but cush gets to his target a whole lot "quicker". I'm a big SC fan, and I believe cush (when 100%) is the best LB on the team, can fit in any defensive scheme, and play any LB position.

ATLDirtyBirds
01-19-2009, 04:27 PM
hahahah Hood made like 3 guys look silly with his spin move!


That was certainly a sight to see.

Babylon
01-19-2009, 04:28 PM
Yes they are

Good, we dont need that whole NBA discussion of with shoes and without shoes.

Babylon
01-19-2009, 04:37 PM
Any info on Rhett Bomar (throwing the football) would be appreciated.

rockio42
01-19-2009, 04:40 PM
Any info on Rhett Bomar (throwing the football) would be appreciated.

Today, he was ok...looked better than Brown (but he looked like ****) I thought Harrell played better than either of them and Bomar was nothing special,. so far the best thing he did today was being a better physical speciman than Brown or Harrell

BRAVEHEART
01-19-2009, 04:43 PM
Any other standouts, help us non NFLN guys out please.

Babylon
01-19-2009, 04:43 PM
Today, he was ok...looked better than Brown (but he looked like ****) I thought Harrell played better than either of them and Bomar was nothing special,. so far the best thing he did today was being a better physical speciman than Brown or Harrell


I havent seen him since his OU days, neven thought he had a cannon but someone caught my attention with the Tony Romo comparison.

jnew76
01-19-2009, 04:44 PM
Any info on Rhett Bomar (throwing the football) would be appreciated.

Had some trouble getting his feet under him when coming away from center. Had the worst footwork of the 3 QB's. When his footwork was bad, his arm angle dropped and passes came out very innacurate. Threw some good passes against air and has the best arm strength out of him, Harrell, and Brown, but did not show a laser. I would say above average arm strength would be an accurate assessment.

He has the most work to do as far as footwork, or he will have a really long week.

rockio42
01-19-2009, 04:47 PM
Any other standouts, help us non NFLN guys out please.

well they ran a lot of one-on-one DL v. OL and the drill obviously favors the DL but most of the DL guys; the biggest standouts were Missouri's Ziggy Hood, Iowa's Mitch King, B.C.'s Ron Brace & B.J. Raji.

On the OL the standouts were Kraig Urbrik (had some trouble but also some great runs), Phil Loadholt, and Max Unger...if you watch the drill straight up none of the OL guys looked good but those three guys had some very good match-ups.

I missed some of the DB/WR/QB drills but Mike Mickens got beat by Gibson once and Ramses Barden looked damn good, also there seemed to be A LOT of illegal contact by the DBs...

BRAVEHEART
01-19-2009, 04:50 PM
well they ran a lot of one-on-one DL v. OL and the drill obviously favors the DL but most of the DL guys; the biggest standouts were Missouri's Ziggy Hood, Iowa's Mitch King, B.C.'s Ron Brace & B.J. Raji.

On the OL the standouts were Kraig Urbrik (had some trouble but also some great runs), Phil Loadholt, and Max Unger...if you watch the drill straight up none of the OL guys looked good but those three guys had some very good match-ups.

I missed some of the DB/WR/QB drills but Mike Mickens got beat by Gibson once and Ramses Barden looked damn good, also there seemed to be A LOT of illegal contact by the DBs...

Thank you, I wonder if Unger will go ahead of mack (draft stock wise) based off of good performances at the senior bowl (practices,drills,game).

jnew76
01-19-2009, 04:51 PM
Any other standouts, help us non NFLN guys out please.

QB's

Harrell's footwork looked good for a spread QB. Threw a 15 yard out very accurately which was impressive.

Nathan Brown has a really good over the top delivery ala Drew Brees, which will give him a chance to overcome his lack of height.

Xavier Fulton looked good, and light on his feet against speed rushers - got beat inside at least once that I saw.

I am going to have to re-watch and will write up a little more of what I saw.

Raji and Brace of BC both looked good at DT. Brace looks like he is the strongest and plays with the best leverage. Unger could not hold up at the point against him and looked overmatched. Brace might have been the most impressive of the prospect I saw as far as an elevation of draft stock.

Fuzzy Dunlop
01-19-2009, 04:51 PM
Any other standouts, help us non NFLN guys out please.

I didn't catch the whole program, but as far as standouts I'd say Kraig Urbik, BJ Raji; Ziggy Hood looked pretty quick and made some people look downright stupid with his spin move. Bomar threw some absolute ducks and doesn't seem to have much zip on his passes. Phil Loadholt is an absolute monster, and he looked quicker than I thought. Not sure if he'll be a LT, but he helped himself today.

rockio42
01-19-2009, 04:52 PM
Thank you, I wonder if Unger will go ahead of mack (draft stock wise) based off of good performances at the senior bowl (practices,drills,game).

Unger looked ok but he got beat a couple times and Mack seemed a little slow off the ball and had to hold to not get completely destroyed, like I said the OL didn't look good because of how the drill is structured but right now I think both of them are 1a and 1b and Mack helped himself out (when it comes to be grading against Unger) by playing some OG in the drill...

and me saying Hood did good was an understatement...he did a spin move that made two guys look obsolutely terrible, i mean it was crazy as hell, deffinetly had a great day...also Mitch King was damn good too he looked unblockable the entire day

JRTPlaya21
01-19-2009, 04:53 PM
Lots of illegal contact downfield from the db's. Brandon Gibson looked impressive and so did Robiskie. Macho was compared to Flowers, but I doubt he will have the same first year impact. None of the rb's really stood out on day one. Urbik showed some good footwork and Loadholt looked massive during the one on ones. Harrell looked sharp and Hood's spin moves were just mind blowing.

BRAVEHEART
01-19-2009, 04:54 PM
Thank you everyone, is this the end of the drills today?

DiG
01-19-2009, 04:54 PM
i hope that you told vinny cerratto that he should retire. like yesterday.

JRTPlaya21
01-19-2009, 04:56 PM
The drills are over until 10:30 tomorrow morning. Try justintv. They may carry some live feeds.

SKim172
01-19-2009, 04:57 PM
Any word on how Pat White looked?

I know, I know, he's not gonna make it at the QB position, etc, etc, just curious. Did he play drills anywhere else?

BRAVEHEART
01-19-2009, 04:57 PM
The drills are over until 10:30 tomorrow morning. Try justintv. They may carry some live feeds.

thanks again.

rockio42
01-19-2009, 04:57 PM
The drills are over until 10:30 tomorrow morning. Try justintv. They may carry some live feeds.

the drills are at 10:30 tommorow?? damnit!

jnew76
01-19-2009, 04:57 PM
Oh Yeah, Pettigrew might be the most impressive Physical specimen on the field. Looked really fluid and lean. Caught the ball well.

Connor Barwin played TE and looked really good catching the ball. I am really disappointed he is not playing DE full time at this game though.

Derrick Williams was really fluid and showed sudden change of direction. Adjusted well to a deep ball from Harrell. Butler was on him all day and Williams won most of the battles.

rockio42
01-19-2009, 04:58 PM
Any word on how Pat White looked?

I know, I know, he's not gonna make it at the QB position, etc, etc, just curious. Did he play drills anywhere else?

he is on the South team and NFLN only showed people who were in Ladd-Peebles stadium...the South was in a different spot for today

JRTPlaya21
01-19-2009, 04:59 PM
No problem. Yeah 10:30 til noon and another session from 5 to 7.

JRTPlaya21
01-19-2009, 05:00 PM
Any word on how Pat White looked?

I know, I know, he's not gonna make it at the QB position, etc, etc, just curious. Did he play drills anywhere else?

Mayock and Marvin Lewis said that a player like White would have a great value because he could become a serious threat in the right teams playbook.

619
01-19-2009, 05:01 PM
Mitch King was a force in the one-on-one's from the little I saw. I liked the Dan Klecko comparison Mayock gave him, his versatility will help him overcome the 'undersized' label. He may not be a great fit for every team, but some team could certainly use a player like him.

JRTPlaya21
01-19-2009, 05:02 PM
Oh Yeah, Pettigrew might be the most impressive Physical specimen on the field. Looked really fluid and lean. Caught the ball well.

Connor Barwin played TE and looked really good catching the ball. I am really disappointed he is not playing DE full time at this game though.

Derrick Williams was really fluid and showed sudden change of direction. Adjusted well to a deep ball from Harrell. Butler was on him all day and Williams won most of the battles.

Barwin's college TE stats were impressive considering that he later changed to DE. I hope he gets used well in the league.

CantStopGregJones
01-19-2009, 05:03 PM
You have no idea how unbelievably PO'd I am that they are making Connor Barwin play TE instead of DE. The idiots at the senior bowl have completely destroyed his draft stock.

BRAVEHEART
01-19-2009, 05:21 PM
You have no idea how unbelievably PO'd I am that they are making Connor Barwin play TE instead of DE. The idiots at the senior bowl have completely destroyed his draft stock.


You're his agent?:confused:

jnew76
01-19-2009, 05:30 PM
Anyone else think that Ziggy Hood might fit better as a 3-4 DE who slides inside on pass rushing downs? He just looks too lean to play inside on 1rst and 2nd down. At 6'3" 298, he displayed the quickness and has the size and long arms to challenge the edge. He could play DT in a Tampa-2, but might be too tall to play with enough leverage inside.

Hood was recruited to Missouri as a DE.

SeanTaylorRIP
01-19-2009, 05:37 PM
How'd Clint Sintim look?

BRAVEHEART
01-19-2009, 05:46 PM
Anyone else think that Ziggy Hood might fit better as a 3-4 DE who slides inside on pass rushing downs? He just looks too lean to play inside on 1rst and 2nd down. At 6'3" 298, he displayed the quickness and has the size and long arms to challenge the edge. He could play DT in a Tampa-2, but might be too tall to play with enough leverage inside.

Hood was recruited to Missouri as a DE.

Makes sense, alot of DT's in this class look like they could be nice 3-4 DE's.

jnew76
01-19-2009, 05:50 PM
How'd Clint Sintim look?

His practice was not televised. He will be on at 10:30 tomorrow morning I believe.

mpt117
01-19-2009, 05:54 PM
are all the weigh ins done? i clicked the senior bowl headquarters and clicked weigh ins and i get all the weigh ins up to Jonathan Luigs. Then from Alex Mack through all the defense and special teams is blank...

keylime_5
01-19-2009, 05:55 PM
Hood is a good NT one gapper for a 4-3. I wouldn't touch him as a 5 technique, at least not in the range he's expected to be drafted (rounds 2-3). Fili Moala in round 3 and Tyson Jackson in round 1/2 are the only first day kind of guys at 3-4 DE.

BRAVEHEART
01-19-2009, 05:56 PM
Hood is a good NT one gapper for a 4-3. I wouldn't touch him as a 5 technique, at least not in the range he's expected to be drafted (rounds 2-3)

Most 3-4 DE's aren't touched early anyway, right?

gator3guy
01-19-2009, 06:04 PM
The OG's weren't too impressive. Urbik finished strong, but Unger, Mack, and Shuman were shaky. I know the defense has the advantage, but I expected better results.

RB's couldn't really show much...

Darius Butler looked quick and fluid. His opponent Derrick Williams looked good. Gibson and Barden as well.

Geo
01-19-2009, 06:06 PM
are all the weigh ins done? i clicked the senior bowl headquarters and clicked weigh ins and i get all the weigh ins up to Jonathan Luigs. Then from Alex Mack through all the defense and special teams is blank...
Scott will put the rest up, once he's done checking out today's practices.

mpt117
01-19-2009, 06:31 PM
Scott will put the rest up, once he's done checking out today's practices.

thanks man

jnew76
01-19-2009, 06:33 PM
At running back, Kory Sheets of Purdue clearly showed the most burst and best hands. Looks really well built, and explosive. Receiving ability should elevate his stock.

Alex Mack looked the best in the pivot IMO. Unger did not have the same leverage at the point of attack that Mack displayed.

The only O-Lineman to show snap with their arms and hips in one-on-one drills was Kraig Urbick. He was the only one to defeat the inside speed of Ziggy Hood and BJ Raji.

You can see the raw potential of William Beatty, He would get out of his stance quickly and in good position, but did not use his hands well, nor did he set his hips. Let defenders get into his body with regularity.

Brooks Foster ran a couple of great routes. Smooth runner who was clearly well coached. A good 40 time would vault him over some more hyped players IMO.

Mitch King was completely unblockable with his quickness and handspeed inside. I did not see him get blocked effectively all day. He will have trouble at the next level being so under-sized, but I think he will play somewhere.

Cody Brown - DE - UConn - He did not win a single 1-on-1 battle all day, but in team drills was around the ball a lot.

Tim Jamison - DE - Michigan - Flashed a nice inside rush move in 1-on-1's, but disappeared during team drills. Does not look like he has the speed to get to the edge.

Tyrone McKenzie looked okay in space at his size. He was just out bodied by Pettigrew when he was matched up in coverage.

Mike Mickens - Cinn - CB - is clearly not 100% after the knee injury and Mayock looks to be right on him not needing to be here at less than 100%. I would not be surprised if Mickens shuts it down and they call someone to come in his place.

Darius Butler looked pretty good... He was not really beaten on a couple of throws, the throws were either perfect or thrown in places where only the receiver could make the play. Looks fast and fluid.

Victor Harris looked a little mechanical and stiff. He did not look like he has elite change of direction or hips for a Man-2-Man cover guy in the NFL. Better cover 2 guy at this point I think, but I look for him to improve as the week goes on.

Generally the camera angle prevented the ability to see Safety Play and there was maybe one deep ball thrown, and Chung would have most likely have been flagged for PI on the play.

Cedric Peerman lacked burst and was unable to gain the edge on a run he could have gotten to the outside, there was a really quick whistle all day thouh so he was unable to show any power.

Larry English looked okay, but the camera did not find him very often.

Phil Loadholt - OT - OU - When he got his hands on the DE, the battle was over, but he did struggle when hit with inside counter moves. Looked to be anticipating the outside speed rush in 1-on1's. He was lined up at RT in team drills for the most part and he was the most dominant player on the line during them. Will still have trouble in the NFL until he refines his balance and hand placement. He is incredible strong when he lowers his hips and gets his hands on the defender.

Trevor Canfield - OT/OG - Cinn - He was the most consistently overmatched player on the field. Might not have blocked anyone all day. Looked completely lost. Mitch King would have had an untouched sack in Team Drills when he lined up against Canfield. He was on Bomar before Canfield got out of his stance.

jnew76
01-19-2009, 06:40 PM
Hood is a good NT one gapper for a 4-3. I wouldn't touch him as a 5 technique, at least not in the range he's expected to be drafted (rounds 2-3). Fili Moala in round 3 and Tyson Jackson in round 1/2 are the only first day kind of guys at 3-4 DE.


I always thought Hood was overrated at the position. He has kind of a wierd frame that might not enable him to put on weight and maintain quickness, but at 6'3" he would need more bulk to hold up in the NFL on the inside IMO.

BRAVEHEART
01-19-2009, 06:41 PM
At running back, Kory Sheets of Purdue clearly showed the most burst and best hands. Looks really well built, and explosive. Receiving ability should elevate his stock.

Alex Mack looked the best in the pivot IMO. Unger did not have the same leverage at the point of attack that Mack displayed.

The only O-Lineman to show snap with their arms and hips in one-on-one drills was Kraig Urbick. He was the only one to defeat the inside speed of Ziggy Hood and BJ Raji.

You can see the raw potential of William Beatty, He would get out of his stance quickly and in good position, but did not use his hands well, nor did he set his hips. Let defenders get into his body with regularity.

Brooks Foster ran a couple of great routes. Smooth runner who was clearly well coached. A good 40 time would vault him over some more hyped players IMO.

Mitch King was completely unblockable with his quickness and handspeed inside. I did not see him get blocked effectively all day. He will have trouble at the next level being so under-sized, but I think he will play somewhere.

Cody Brown - DE - UConn - He did not win a single 1-on-1 battle all day, but in team drills was around the ball a lot.

Tim Jamison - DE - Michigan - Flashed a nice inside rush move in 1-on-1's, but disappeared during team drills. Does not look like he has the speed to get to the edge.

Tyrone McKenzie looked okay in space at his size. He was just out bodied by Pettigrew when he was matched up in coverage.

Mike Mickens - Cinn - CB - is clearly not 100% after the knee injury and Mayock looks to be right on him not needing to be here at less than 100%. I would not be surprised if Mickens shuts it down and they call someone to come in his place.

Darius Butler looked pretty good... He was not really beaten on a couple of throws, the throws were either perfect or thrown in places where only the receiver could make the play. Looks fast and fluid.

Victor Harris looked a little mechanical and stiff. He did not look like he has elite change of direction or hips for a Man-2-Man cover guy in the NFL. Better cover 2 guy at this point I think, but I look for him to improve as the week goes on.

Generally the camera angle prevented the ability to see Safety Play and there was maybe one deep ball thrown, and Chung would have most likely have been flagged for PI on the play.

Cedric Peerman lacked burst and was unable to gain the edge on a run he could have gotten to the outside, there was a really quick whistle all day thouh so he was unable to show any power.

Larry English looked okay, but the camera did not find him very often.

Phil Loadholt - OT - OU - When he got his hands on the DE, the battle was over, but he did struggle when hit with inside counter moves. Looked to be anticipating the outside speed rush in 1-on1's. He was lined up at RT in team drills for the most part and he was the most dominant player on the line during them. Will still have trouble in the NFL until he refines his balance and hand placement. He is incredible strong when he lowers his hips and gets his hands on the defender.

Trevor Canfield - OT/OG - Cinn - He was the most consistently overmatched player on the field. Might not have blocked anyone all day. Looked completely lost. Mitch King would have had an untouched sack in Team Drills when he lined up against Canfield. He was on Bomar before Canfield got out of his stance.

Something tells me the other team (south I beleive) has all of the talent.

Geo
01-19-2009, 06:58 PM
Brooks Foster ran a couple of great routes. Smooth runner who was clearly well coached. A good 40 time would vault him over some more hyped players IMO.
I thought Foster looked good too. I think whoever gets him could be getting a gem in the way of a #4 receiver who contributes well on special teams, like Pierre Garcon of the Colts for those who have seen him. If Foster coming in at just over 6' instead of the listed 6' 3" makes him fall, a team could be getting an even bigger steal for it imo.

I really like Brian Robiskie, have all year and today was just a bonus as he ran his routes well and caught every ball his way. He plays with speed and quickness, even if he won't time as well. Very underrated.

Also thought Derrick Williams looked pretty good from what was shown, as well as Gibson and Iglesias.

Really good looking receiving core for the North.

ATLDirtyBirds
01-19-2009, 07:29 PM
Ziggy and Mitch King were the real big standouts. Hood's spin move was just great to watch.

D-Unit
01-19-2009, 09:08 PM
Ziggy and Mitch King were the real big standouts. Hood's spin move was just great to watch.
They flashed his spin move one time against that VTech lineman, but other than that, I didn't notice anything more... but I didn't watch the whole thing yet. It's on DVR and I'll watch the rest later. It was very impressive though.

D-Unit
01-19-2009, 09:09 PM
Most 3-4 DE's aren't touched early anyway, right?
Parcells took Marcus Spears, but our better DE, Canty was taken in Rnd 4.

bearsfan_51
01-19-2009, 09:34 PM
I still can't get it to work. :(

Hines
01-19-2009, 09:35 PM
I keep reading that Derrick Williams played well. That is good on his part. He is a good athlete and player, but Penn State's system didn't work for him.

gator3guy
01-19-2009, 09:49 PM
Parcells took Marcus Spears, but our better DE, Canty was taken in Rnd 4.

Ty Warren and Richard Seymour were first round picks

gafyobop
01-19-2009, 09:53 PM
Ron Brace anyone? How is he looking? Raji gets the attention but ....

Cushing to MLB in either scheme and Mathews to 3-4 OLB?

gafyobop
01-19-2009, 09:55 PM
Ty Warren and Richard Seymour were first round picks


And your NT.

NE spends on its DL b/c they figure if they are any good they ges 10 years from them.

gator3guy
01-19-2009, 09:58 PM
Ron Brace anyone? How is he looking? Raji gets the attention but ....

Cushing to MLB in either scheme and Mathews to 3-4 OLB?

Brace doesn't really have any pass rush moves other than a bull rush, but he looked good. Over powered Max Unger a few times. Definitely looks like a 3-4 NT.

jnew76
01-19-2009, 10:01 PM
Brace doesn't really have any pass rush moves other than a bull rush, but he looked good. Over powered Max Unger a few times. Definitely looks like a 3-4 NT.

Completely agree. He fires out, stays low, and uses leverage very well for a man that tall. Could definitely hold up at the point in the NFL and has room to add even more muscle/weight to his frame.

BRAVEHEART
01-19-2009, 10:06 PM
Ty Warren and Richard Seymour were first round picks

But how many times has that happened, it's probably rare..no?

gator3guy
01-19-2009, 10:06 PM
Completely agree. He fires out, stays low, and uses leverage very well for a man that tall. Could definitely hold up at the point in the NFL and has room to add even more muscle/weight to his frame.

Yea he's 6'3. That's about as tall as you want a NT. I believe he's "only" about 330. He can prob get up to 340 if needed. But he looks like a solid NT.

gator3guy
01-19-2009, 10:09 PM
But how many times has that happened, it's probably rare..no?

Yea... I mean the Ravens took Haloti Ngata in the first round as a DE. He has since moved to the nose.

Kentwan Balmer was a first rounder last year.

Olshansky was a 2nd rounder I believe. Luis Castillo was a first rounder.

It really depends on a team's needs. I mean I don't think you'll see a 3-4 DE in the top 10, but late 1st is possible.

sbh15
01-19-2009, 10:11 PM
Yea... I mean the Ravens took Haloti Ngata in the first round as a DE. He has since moved to the nose.

Kentwan Balmer was a first rounder last year.

Olshansky was a 2nd rounder I believe. Luis Castillo was a first rounder.

It really depends on a team's needs. I mean I don't think you'll see a 3-4 DE in the top 10, but late 1st is possible.

Haloti will move back to DE once Gregg is healthy (next year)

that was a ****** 1000th post...

gafyobop
01-19-2009, 10:20 PM
Brace as a two gapper in a 3-4 makes mucho sense to me.

Putting aside Raji, I can see the Cowboys needing this in the third or San Diego maybe going for Jamaal's replacement.

Him and Raji seem to have the build's coming right out of school to take the beatings. Be interested to see the power numbers on these guys.

gafyobop
01-19-2009, 10:21 PM
Haloti will move back to DE once Gregg is healthy (next year)

that was a ****** 1000th post...

Maybe I am crazy but I don't like Ngata as a full time DE. NT, yes.

rockio42
01-19-2009, 10:46 PM
Maybe I am crazy but I don't like Ngata as a full time DE. NT, yes.

you're crazy, he is a beast and is great at DE has the hieght and speed to play the 3-4 DE and add in that he is 340 pounds and you have a great DE...

jnew76
01-19-2009, 11:13 PM
FYI, Scott's practice reports are up for today.

Smokey Joe
01-19-2009, 11:19 PM
My thoughts from the practice:

You couldn't tell much in the receiver skills as it was tough to tell who was who, and there were some bad camera angles, but Brandon Gibson really stood out, IMO. Robiskie and Barden looked pretty good as well. As for the DB's, it was really tough to tell. The QB's were meh, and Nathan Brown has gone from a potential 4th or 5th round pick, IMO, to undraftable.

For the big uglies, the OLine got manhandled in one-on-one pass rush (this was my favorite drill in high school, unless you count team as a drill). And unlike what Mayock was saying, that drill doesn't really favor either side. It's pretty much a 3rd and long situation, and the OLine needs to keep the pocket clean for at least 4-5 seconds. All of the OLinemen were lazy and slow, and were using TERRIBLE technique. The only one that showed a good hand punch was Kraig Urbrik, and sometimes Loadholt. Loadholt looked a lot more fluid on the leftside actually, and I'm starting to think that might be the best spot for him.

As for the DLinemen, the only two that really impressed me were Mitch King and B.J. Raji. The others looked good, but the OLine really played like ****. King is quickly rising on draft boards, and I want Raji on the Bears big time.

Hopefully things will be more fluid now that they got some of the rust out and tomorrow will be full pads.

thetedginnshow
01-19-2009, 11:28 PM
Is Maualuga doing stuff or did he just weigh in?

jnew76
01-19-2009, 11:38 PM
Is Maualuga doing stuff or did he just weigh in?

They had the weigh in this morning for everyone and then split into teams where the South Team (Maualuga's Team) had to relocate to another facility to practice. The NFL Network covered the North team in the afternoon, and the teams will both be able to practice tomorrow at the main facility where I think the South will have the morning practice. 10:30 est.

Scott covered the North practice and the guy from Draftdaddy covered the South team and they are sharing information.

Staubach12
01-19-2009, 11:51 PM
"I still can't believe the Arizona Cardinals are going to the Senior Bowl..."

Scott said that in his coverage. Not sure if that's been mentioned. But I found it awesome.

thetedginnshow
01-19-2009, 11:56 PM
Oh. I read a couple of things. Apparently Cushing was the best of the SC trio and Maualuga was the worst. #17 here we come!

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 12:17 AM
Is Maualuga doing stuff or did he just weigh in?

The south practice wasn't televised

whoops lil late

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 12:34 AM
FYI, Scott's practice reports are up for today.

Funny Scott mentions the muffing of D-Will's punt, I saw that in the background of the NFLN set and got a chuckle out of it.

Iamcanadian
01-20-2009, 06:18 AM
well they ran a lot of one-on-one DL v. OL and the drill obviously favors the DL but most of the DL guys; the biggest standouts were Missouri's Ziggy Hood, Iowa's Mitch King, B.C.'s Ron Brace & B.J. Raji.

On the OL the standouts were Kraig Urbrik (had some trouble but also some great runs), Phil Loadholt, and Max Unger...if you watch the drill straight up none of the OL guys looked good but those three guys had some very good match-ups.

I missed some of the DB/WR/QB drills but Mike Mickens got beat by Gibson once and Ramses Barden looked damn good, also there seemed to be A LOT of illegal contact by the DBs...

Just as a side note, apparantly the contact rules are different in college from the pros so the DB's are still using their college technique.

hannah73
01-20-2009, 08:24 AM
Where is the Senior Bowl stuff? I can't link to it. I see the page link but when I go there there is nothing there. Just some dead links. Kind of weird.

jnew76
01-20-2009, 09:30 AM
Where is the Senior Bowl stuff? I can't link to it. I see the page link but when I go there there is nothing there. Just some dead links. Kind of weird.

Change your browser to the largest font and it should work.

Wolf123
01-20-2009, 09:30 AM
Where is the Senior Bowl stuff? I can't link to it. I see the page link but when I go there there is nothing there. Just some dead links. Kind of weird.

I get the same thing, can anyone help us?

Geo
01-20-2009, 09:48 AM
Alex Magee, defensive lineman from Purdue, has replaced Mike Mickens.

RWills
01-20-2009, 09:49 AM
I get the same thing, can anyone help us?

I am getting the same thing as well

jnew76
01-20-2009, 09:49 AM
Alex Magee, defensive lineman from Purdue, has replaced Mike Mickens.

Good decision by Mickens... He was clearly not healthy. Good opportunity for McGee.

jnew76
01-20-2009, 09:51 AM
I am getting the same thing as well


Once again... for IE users, there is a "page" icon in the top right of your browser where you will need to change the font and choose "largest"... Refresh the page and it should work.

jnew76
01-20-2009, 09:57 AM
Bomar's footwork and balance look better against air today and it is helping his accuracy.

jnew76
01-20-2009, 10:02 AM
2 drops for Robiskie against air, not a real good start. Harrell is struggling with the wind. Brown looks 6th round at best right now, he has a lot of work to do.

AkiliSmith
01-20-2009, 10:23 AM
Macho is doing really well in the 1 on 1 drill

ElectricEye
01-20-2009, 11:23 AM
Bomar was far and away the best quarterback there today. Take that for what it's worth, but he's solidifying his grade as the top senior quarterback.

D-Unit
01-20-2009, 12:16 PM
Oh. I read a couple of things. Apparently Cushing was the best of the SC trio and Maualuga was the worst. #17 here we come!
Parcells must be in love with the good news surrounding Cushing.

It's really a shame that Maiava isn't there. He tore up the East-West Shine Game practices though. I'd say he's the best out of all of the USC LBs at shedding blocks despite not being as big. He plays with great technique and quickness.

SchizophrenicBatman
01-20-2009, 12:20 PM
Bomar was far and away the best quarterback there today. Take that for what it's worth, but he's solidifying his grade as the top senior quarterback.

yea, it doesn't mean much since the other 5 QBs there will be lucky to get drafted

rockio42
01-20-2009, 12:36 PM
not really I think Harrell did much better than him yesterday so we will se about that...but I still am a big Cullen Harper fan

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 01:01 PM
yea, it doesn't mean much since the other 5 QBs there will be lucky to get drafted

Yea it's a $hitty group, but Bomar did look pretty good today. Pretty good arm, pretty good accuracy, and a pretty good athlete. His production scares me though. Only 56% at the D1-AA level.

Nothing special from the Rb's. The FB's looked pretty good. Troy Fiammetta looked great picking up the blitz, as did Kettani from Navy.

Derrick Williams looked great IMO. He had some great moves to break down the DB, showed good acceleration out of those breaks, and most importantly he CAUGHT THE FOOTBALL. He's starting to show his #1 talent coming out of high school.

Brandon Gibson struggled today IMO as did Robiskie. Tate continued to do work.

Pettigrew looked good blocking, no surprise.

OLine looked much better overall today. Loadholt continues to shutdown opposing DE's. Once he gets his hands on his man, it's game over. The Gaurd's were inconsistent. Canfield looked good the first couple times but struggled towards the end. Urbik looked pretty good again. Mack was OK. I question Unger's lower body strength. He can't hold his ground it seems. Beatty showed his nimble feet, but needs to put on some weight. Cody Brown almost put him on ass.

Ziggy Hood looked good again. Quick and still had success with his sick spin move. Mitch King didn't have as much success today but still found some success. The new guy Magee from Purdue looked pretty good.

They don't really show the LB's too much, but Mayock was saying Sintim looked good so take that for what it's worth.

Keenan Lewis impressed today. He shutdown Iglesias. Stayed right with him on his double and triple moves. He's a pretty good size corner and showed good feet. Decent hips as well.

They didn't show too much of William Moore but one clipped they showed. He looked slow to change direction. Looked like he had stiff hips. I liked what I saw from Delmas. He put Barden on his ass. He just looks a little on the small side. Chung looked pretty good, even playing press coverage.

Geo
01-20-2009, 01:15 PM
Derrick Williams looked great IMO. He had some great moves to break down the DB, showed good acceleration out of those breaks, and most importantly he CAUGHT THE FOOTBALL. He's starting to show his #1 talent coming out of high school.

Brandon Gibson struggled today IMO as did Robiskie. Tate continued to do work.

Pettigrew looked good blocking, no surprise.

Ziggy Hood looked good again. Quick and still had success with his sick spin move. Mitch King didn't have as much success today but still found some success. The new guy Magee from Purdue looked pretty good.

Keenan Lewis impressed today. He shutdown Iglesias. Stayed right with him on his double and triple moves. He's a pretty good size corner and showed good feet. Decent hips as well.
There was a ball that I wish Williams came down with, he tried adjusting to it but didn't corral it.

Gibson and Robiskie both didn't come down with some catchable balls. And Macho Harris really got the better of Robiskie twice in press coverage one-on-ones. Not a great day for Robo, although I think he still did a few good things.

I just don't get how Mayock can say Pettigrew won't (or may he said shouldn't) get past the 15th overall pick. I don't see it, AT ALL. Okay, he's a good blocking tight end with nice size. Excuse me if I don't schedule the parade just yet, cripes.

Is it just me, or has Ziggy Hood not done much when his spin move hasn't worked/he didn't use his spin move? It's an effective move and all, but the game of football is a far cry from the one-on-one drills where guys can look good. Dre Moore looked awesome last year in these drills, didn't do much on the scrimmages and game. Same deal with Mitch King, he looks good in this drill because of his speed, but seemed to be much more of a non-factor in the full team drills (plus offensive lineman defended him much better in today's 1-on-1 drills too). Coming down to Earth.

I have no idea why Iglesias tried to triple move not once but twice, if that was what the coach running the drill told him to do or if he thought that was a smart move. Because it really wasn't.

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 01:54 PM
Macho did play the ball well. I think he has a problem with changing direction. He doesn't make a smooth transition with his hips IMO. He's a gritty player though. Physical corner for his size. I wanna see how he does with the speed guys though.

rockio42
01-20-2009, 01:59 PM
Ziggy's spin move did look amazing yesterday (I'm at school so i didnt see the arly practice) and even though he had a lot of problems recovering THAT rep if it failed he was still getting alot of pressure when he started out with a different move....

and how come no one has talked about Mitch King for SDE, they say he is an undersized DT but he has showed some nice quickness so...

Bradyjackson12
01-20-2009, 02:04 PM
I don't have NFLN at home so can anyone describes and comments how David Bruton, Shawn Nelson and Xavier Fulton are doing in Mobile.

Thank you.

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 02:06 PM
and how come no one has talked about Mitch King for SDE, they say he is an undersized DT but he has showed some nice quickness so...

Idk, I haven't seen enough of him to make an assessment. I guess it's because he'd be a better fit in a Tampa 2 or 3-4 DE. Just a guess. Who know's, if he shows good numbers at the combine, he could be given a look at DE.

rockio42
01-20-2009, 02:06 PM
I don't have NFLN at home so can anyone describes and comments how David Bruton, Shawn Nelson and Xavier Fulton are doing in Mobile.

Thank you.

On the first day at least Xavier Fulton was very up and down...on one play we would completely sit the DE down, and on the next get driven back 5 yards...i have yet to see him today so we will see if that changed at all

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 02:08 PM
I don't have NFLN at home so can anyone describes and comments how David Bruton, Shawn Nelson and Xavier Fulton are doing in Mobile.

Thank you.

They didn't really show Brutton sorry.

Shawn Nelson is practicing at 5 pm. Heard he tore it up yesterday though.

Fulton is playing RT. He looks okay. Doesn't have the quick feet I expected but he held his own today. I think he may have trouble with speed rushers. Just my opinion from what I saw today and Yesterday.

rockio42
01-20-2009, 02:08 PM
Idk, I haven't seen enough of him to make an assessment. I guess it's because he'd be a better fit in a Tampa 2 or 3-4 DE. Just a guess. Who know's, if he shows good numbers at the combine, he could be given a look at DE.

well at the weign-in he came in at 6'1 and 275, and had showed some very good quickness so I dont see why he couldn't be a 4-3 SDE

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 02:16 PM
well at the weign-in he came in at 6'1 and 275, and had showed some very good quickness so I dont see why he couldn't be a 4-3 SDE

6'1 maybe??? Most guys at that height are pass rushers. Freeny, Mathis, Dummervil.

rockio42
01-20-2009, 02:18 PM
6'1 maybe??? Most guys at that height are pass rushers. Freeny, Mathis, Dummervil.

....touche good sir, but I believe its a better fit for him than UT...

regoob2
01-20-2009, 02:23 PM
....touche good sir, but I believe its a better fit for him than UT...
He needs to bulk up but he should be an UT and STer.

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 02:24 PM
....touche good sir, but I believe its a better fit for him than UT...

You never know. At his size, he's got to be versatile to keep value. I could see him playing a few different roles at the next level.

captainjack27
01-20-2009, 02:26 PM
Glad to see Williams giving out a strong performance.

Bradyjackson12
01-20-2009, 02:33 PM
They didn't really show Brutton sorry.

Shawn Nelson is practicing at 5 pm. Heard he tore it up yesterday though.

Fulton is playing RT. He looks okay. Doesn't have the quick feet I expected but he held his own today. I think he may have trouble with speed rushers. Just my opinion from what I saw today and Yesterday.

Thanks a lot

Hines
01-20-2009, 03:53 PM
What squad is practicing in about 5 minutes? I missed the early practice due to class.

DJC
01-20-2009, 03:54 PM
What squad is practicing in about 5 minutes? I missed the early practice due to class.

South I believe.

Hines
01-20-2009, 04:21 PM
In that one on one blocking drill, Shawn Nelson and Rashard Jennings impressed me the most. I think Nelson's stock is going to rise after this.

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 04:23 PM
In that one on one blocking drill, Shawn Nelson and Rashard Jennings impressed me the most. I think Nelson's stock is going to rise after this.

Yea a lot of scouts apparently have been impressed with him. Seems like a more balanced TE.

And after Pettigrew, the number 2 spot is up for grabs between him, Casey, Ingram, Beckum, and Coffman.

rockio42
01-20-2009, 04:29 PM
Maualuga looked quite poor blitzing, while Darry Beckwith looked very good

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 04:32 PM
Maualuga looked quite poor blitzing, while Darry Beckwith looked very good

He made Quinn Johnson look dumb the first rep, but like Savage said, he's more of a blitzer up the middle.

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 04:35 PM
Coye Francies looks great

thetedginnshow
01-20-2009, 04:37 PM
Who are the coaches for the respective sides?

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 04:38 PM
Who are the coaches for the respective sides?

South- Jacksonville
North- Cincinnati

rockio42
01-20-2009, 04:45 PM
WOW!! Oher just had two terrible reps

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 04:46 PM
WOW!! Oher just had two terrible reps

Yea, Herman Johnson is too slow to play outside.

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 04:49 PM
Kropog looked good, nice feet, but got blown away by Ayers.

BRAVEHEART
01-20-2009, 04:50 PM
so what drills are going on now?

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 04:52 PM
so what drills are going on now?

one-on-one Oline/Dline

BRAVEHEART
01-20-2009, 04:54 PM
one-on-one Oline/Dline

which side...both?

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 04:56 PM
which side...both?

what do you mean?

BRAVEHEART
01-20-2009, 04:56 PM
what do you mean?

North South

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 04:57 PM
North South

South is the only team practicing.

Antoine Caldwell looks pretty good. Looks strong at the point.

BRAVEHEART
01-20-2009, 05:02 PM
South is the only team practicing.

Antoine Caldwell looks pretty good. Looks strong at the point.

when are they doing WR DB drills, or have they already did those?

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 05:03 PM
when are they doing WR DB drills, or have they already did those?

Already did them.

Brian Cushing just jacked up Jennings

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 05:07 PM
Corvey Irvin is blowing **** up

Falcon_from_E_Oakland
01-20-2009, 05:07 PM
Irvin is looking good.

ATLDirtyBirds
01-20-2009, 05:31 PM
Shawn Nelson was easily the most impressive.

SeanTaylorRIP
01-20-2009, 05:46 PM
Sherrod Martin has looked bad to me. Expected him to be much more fluid in coverage.

gator3guy
01-20-2009, 05:48 PM
Sherrod Martin has looked bad to me. Expected him to be much more fluid in coverage.

Yea Mayock said he thought he had to move to corner, I believe he has a better shot at safety.

mat33
01-20-2009, 06:38 PM
Is anyone else having trouble downloading the Senior Bowl page? Because when I open it, there are no links that I can access.