View Full Version : Down Syndrome Guy kicks child....
BRAVEHEART
01-21-2009, 03:04 AM
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I'm not one to hit somebody handicapped/disabled, but under those circumstances....Whammy!
Brent
01-21-2009, 03:06 AM
hahah he decked that guy
jayceheathman
01-21-2009, 03:09 AM
haha DAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMNNNNNNN! Thats the way you stick up for your kid.
SuperKevin
01-21-2009, 03:09 AM
That's horrible. Looked like he barely tapped the toddler. I'd lock that black guy up
Turtlepower
01-21-2009, 03:11 AM
Yeah, that was beyond ridiculous. He more or less shooed the kid away with his foot and then the guy has to knock him out. Him having down syndrome or not, that was completely ****ed up.
iowatreat54
01-21-2009, 03:25 AM
I may not have punched the guy but I definitely would have thrown him back/down. I don't care if it was barely a tap, if someone laid a hand on my kid he would be down.
There is no way to tell from that video that the guy has a mental handicap, but that circumstance if known makes it a little different.
Crickett
01-21-2009, 03:57 AM
I may not have punched the guy but I definitely would have thrown him back/down. I don't care if it was barely a tap, if someone laid a hand on my kid he would be down.
There is no way to tell from that video that the guy has a mental handicap, but that circumstance if known makes it a little different.
My initial thought was "what if that was my kid?" I probably wouldn't have done what he did punching the guy out, but I do understand where he's coming from doing that.
BRAVEHEART
01-21-2009, 03:59 AM
It's always a mixed bag when people see this.
comahan
01-21-2009, 06:23 AM
haha, terrific.
CJSchneider
01-21-2009, 06:37 AM
My initial thought was "what if that was my kid?" I probably wouldn't have done what he did punching the guy out, but I do understand where he's coming from doing that.
QFT- I'm not saying the guy needed to be layed out- but I think Chris Rock said it best when he said "but I understand."
duckseason
01-21-2009, 07:07 AM
That's horrible. Looked like he barely tapped the toddler. I'd lock that black guy up
The guy didn't get to watch it on video from up above like we did. For all we know he barely saw it out of the corner of his eye. Bottom line: Somebody touches your child in a violent manner, you do what you need to do. The man was not out of line at all. He neutralized the threat and restrained himself at that point. Had he stood over the guy and started kicking him in the stomach repeatedly out of anger, he'd have to answer for that. For what he did though, he should be commended.
If anybody needs to be locked up it's the guy that can't keep from running up to children and trying to kick them for no apparent reason. Prisons should be reserved for those who are a threat to society; not those who are merely trying to protect their families from those threats.
Caddy
01-21-2009, 07:13 AM
I can definitely see why the parent/guardian decked the guy. If I had a kid and a stranger touched him in any way I'd be the first one in to deck the guy.
ironman4579
01-21-2009, 08:37 AM
Yeah, that was beyond ridiculous. He more or less shooed the kid away with his foot and then the guy has to knock him out. Him having down syndrome or not, that was completely ****ed up.
Shooed him away from where? The counter? It's not like the kid was right next to him, he had to take like three or four steps to get to the kid. Maybe he didn't kick him hard, but he didn't "shoo him away" either. Maybe the guy shouldn't have dropped him, but I don't have a problem with a parent protecting a child.
j05son
01-21-2009, 09:05 AM
Although the "kick" didn't seem to hard, and the kid not that effected [if at all] I would have done the same thing. Looked like the guy was trying to kick the kid in the groin.
Brent
01-21-2009, 10:50 AM
After watching this again, I would probably do the same or at least shove the guy away from my kid and pick up my child ASAP.
tjsunstein
01-21-2009, 11:01 AM
You don't hit someone's kid. It's their right to protect the kid if their is any immediate threat and there was obviously a threat. Like duckseason said, he neutralized the threat. He didn't beat him to pulps.
YAYareaRB
01-21-2009, 11:01 AM
He definitely wasn't simply trying to shoo the kid away. I would probably do the same as the father did. I wonder what made the DS guy snap like that.
CJSchneider
01-21-2009, 11:26 AM
Just from looking at the video and to see the man's reaction, I'm sure he is possibly autistic as well. My assumption would be that the child startled him and he reacted the only way he knows how. Let me also include that once I found out the man had autism or down-syndrome or what have you, I would help him pick himself up off the floor.
MetSox17
01-21-2009, 11:29 AM
I see why the guy protected his kid, but what i don't understand is why the guy felt necessary to go kick (or attempt to kick) the kid in the first place.
Am I the only one who was hoping for a better kick?
Brent
01-21-2009, 11:31 AM
Just from looking at the video and to see the man's reaction, I'm sure he is possibly autistic as well. My assumption would be that the child startled him and he reacted the only way he knows how. Let me also include that once I found out the man had autism or down-syndrome or what have you, I would help him pick himself up off the floor.
Well, the guy that does the hitting seems to be like, "oh ****" look on his face afterward.
Cobra Commander
01-21-2009, 11:37 AM
I dont care whats wrong with you, touch my kid and your going down.
ironman4579
01-21-2009, 12:52 PM
Just from looking at the video and to see the man's reaction, I'm sure he is possibly autistic as well. My assumption would be that the child startled him and he reacted the only way he knows how. Let me also include that once I found out the man had autism or down-syndrome or what have you, I would help him pick himself up off the floor.
Good point. Once you found that out, and once the adrenaline rush passes, you'd really kind of want to help the guy up.
CJSchneider
01-21-2009, 01:24 PM
That last line was not intended to illustrate that the guy would be on the floor.
ironman4579
01-21-2009, 01:28 PM
That last line was not intended to illustrate that the guy would be on the floor.
Not saying you'd knock him down, just that if you did, you'd really have to help him up after you found out he had DS and possibly autism.
Shahin
01-21-2009, 01:36 PM
That's horrible. Looked like he barely tapped the toddler. I'd lock that black guy up
I don't care how reetarded a person is, if they touch my kid I'm swinging. And I don't give a damn if it was a "tap" or a legit kick.
SuperKevin
01-21-2009, 01:40 PM
How many of you all actually have children? I had a son and I'd still react differently. Maybe it's because I've worked with handicapped people before and realize many of them may be adults but they have the mental capacity of a toddler. Would you knock out a 5 year old because he kicked your kid? No.
iowatreat54
01-21-2009, 01:42 PM
But how do you know the guy is mentally handicapped? If the title hadn't said so, I may have figured something wasn't right after watching the clip, but do you think the father was like "Oh, he's mentally handicapped." I would prolly say the father saw a guy run up and kick his son, I doubt he stopped to check if he had any disabilities.
SuperKevin
01-21-2009, 01:43 PM
But how do you know the guy is mentally handicapped? If the title hadn't said so, I may have figured something wasn't right after watching the clip, but do you think the father was like "Oh, he's mentally handicapped." I would prolly say the father saw a guy run up and kick his son, I doubt he stopped to check if he had any disabilities.
I hate to stereotype but you can tell by looking at him. People with Down Syndrome have a very distinct look
ironman4579
01-21-2009, 01:45 PM
How many of you all actually have children? I had a son and I'd still react differently. Maybe it's because I've worked with handicapped people before and realize many of them may be adults but they have the mental capacity of a toddler. Would you knock out a 5 year old because he kicked your kid? No.
But how do we know that the guy knew he was handicapped? If you just saw "random guy" run over and kick your kid for no reason you'd be cool with it? I'm not saying that socking the guy wasn't a bit of an overreaction, but I certainly think that some action other than "Excuse me sir, please don't hoof my son in the testicles again," is, if not necessarily reasonable, certainly justified.
iowatreat54
01-21-2009, 01:46 PM
I hate to stereotype but you can tell by looking at him. People with Down Syndrome have a very distinct look
Ok, well I've never experienced anyone with it so I'll take your word. But I'm just saying, the father was off camera, what if he was talking to someone, saw out of the corner of his eye that a guy just ran up and kicked his kid? Personally, I don't think he should have jacked him, but I don't think he would be out of line for throwing him back or shoving him to the ground.
villagewarrior
01-21-2009, 01:50 PM
The guy didn't get to watch it on video from up above like we did. For all we know he barely saw it out of the corner of his eye. Bottom line: Somebody touches your child in a violent manner, you do what you need to do. The man was not out of line at all. He neutralized the threat and restrained himself at that point. Had he stood over the guy and started kicking him in the stomach repeatedly out of anger, he'd have to answer for that. For what he did though, he should be commended.
If anybody needs to be locked up it's the guy that can't keep from running up to children and trying to kick them for no apparent reason. Prisons should be reserved for those who are a threat to society; not those who are merely trying to protect their families from those threats.
I agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment.
ironman4579
01-21-2009, 01:51 PM
I hate to stereotype but you can tell by looking at him. People with Down Syndrome have a very distinct look
They do, but if you just glanced over at your son and saw a guy run up and kick him, are you taking the time to run a study of his distinct characteristics? Probably not. I would also say that people that have never been around anyone with DS may not recognize the characteristics. I went to school with alot of DS kids so I know what it looks like. My fiance on the other hand, really didn't know what DS looked like until I pointed it out to her.
CJSchneider
01-21-2009, 01:51 PM
If all I catch is a glimpse out of the corner of my eye, I can tell you both as a father and as a person who has worked with mentally disabled people, I may not closed fist punch someone in the face, but my gut reaction will get them two "bear-claws" to the chest. If the guy is lucky, and I see that he may be disabled I may ease up a bit, but I will still put a protective distance between him and my child.
iowatreat54
01-21-2009, 01:54 PM
If all I catch is a glimpse out of the corner of my eye, I can tell you both as a father and as a person who has worked with mentally disabled people, I may not closed fist punch someone in the face, but my gut reaction will get them two "bear-claws" to the chest. If the guy is lucky, and I see that he may be disabled I may ease up a bit, but I will still put a protective distance between him and my child.
This is how I feel. If I feel that it is just a regular guy, no handicap, I might punch him depending on the mood I'm in, but at least I would prolly throw him to the ground. If I felt that the guy did have a mental handicap, I would prolly shove him away still, but not intend to put him to the ground or harm him.
giantsfan
01-21-2009, 01:58 PM
This is great.
ironman4579
01-21-2009, 01:58 PM
How many of you all actually have children? I had a son and I'd still react differently. Maybe it's because I've worked with handicapped people before and realize many of them may be adults but they have the mental capacity of a toddler. Would you knock out a 5 year old because he kicked your kid? No.
I would also point out this a little silly SK. If a 5 year old kicked my kid, and my kid was 5, I'd expect him to handle it on his own. But a fully grown man? No. regardless of his mental capacity, he can seriously harm a child. I probably wouldn't drop him, but I'm not going to have a pleasant conversation with him either.
TitleTown088
01-21-2009, 02:31 PM
I thought Ty Cobb was white?
tjsunstein
01-21-2009, 03:25 PM
I thought Ty Cobb was white?
You didnt hear...?
Staubach12
01-21-2009, 03:27 PM
Look, the only way people learn is experience. Now this guy knows not to kick children, or you will eventually get LTFO by some BAMF.
Jvig43
01-21-2009, 03:37 PM
Personally I would do the same thing. Even if the guy has the mind of a five year old, he does'nt have the physique of a five year old. Just because he has a handicap does'nt mean its ok for him to act that way towards children, regardless of how hard he hit or tapped the kid.
themaninblack
01-21-2009, 03:51 PM
Yeah, I doubt the guy really had time to examine the situation other than noticing that a seemingly grown person just hit his child. He didn't go overboard with his reaction either.
Jakey
01-21-2009, 03:53 PM
I look after handicapped people as a job, and i would never intentionally react like that...but if i was in that situation and somebody attacked my kid i would probably react like that from instinct. I'd obviously be really sorry and help the guy up and things, but i think that would be my first reaction :/
And haha yes, i was hoping for a harder kick too!!!
SuperKevin
01-21-2009, 03:55 PM
Look, the only way people learn is experience. Now this guy knows not to kick children, or you will eventually get LTFO by some BAMF.
You have exceeded the maximum amount of acronyms allowed per sentence
sbh15
01-21-2009, 03:55 PM
Are we entirely sure the guy had down-syndrome?
He doesn't do anything that makes me think he's much more than slightly autistic.
Jakey
01-21-2009, 03:56 PM
You have exceeded the maximum amount of acronyms allowed per sentence
ROFL ye i LOL'd when i read that B.S, it was pretty funny IMHO.
Gay Ork Wang
01-21-2009, 04:06 PM
Are we entirely sure the guy had down-syndrome?
He doesn't do anything that makes me think he's much more than slightly autistic.
i dont know, but looking at that guy in the video, it is obvious to me that he has down syndrom. u could see his face
NYGibril28
01-21-2009, 04:24 PM
Are we all jumping to the conclusion that the guy who laid out the guy with down syndrome knew he had downsyndrome?
BRAVEHEART
01-21-2009, 04:42 PM
How many of you all actually have children? I had a son and I'd still react differently. Maybe it's because I've worked with handicapped people before and realize many of them may be adults but they have the mental capacity of a toddler. Would you knock out a 5 year old because he kicked your kid? No.
My thing is, if you are smart enough to use a cell phone, then you should be smart enough not to kick children. If he cant do that, then somebody either needs to keep a better eye on him, or a leash.
CJSchneider
01-21-2009, 04:47 PM
My thing is, if you are smart enough to use a cell phone, then you should be smart enough not to kick children. If he cant do that, then somebody either needs to keep a better eye on him, or a leash.
I was thinking the same thing.
someone447
01-21-2009, 06:16 PM
It is quite obvious when someone has down syndrome. Many people wouldn't know it was Down Syndrome, but they would definitely be able to tell he was "********."
giantsfan
01-21-2009, 06:20 PM
My thing is, if you are smart enough to use a cell phone, then you should be smart enough not to kick children. If he cant do that, then somebody either needs to keep a better eye on him, or a leash.
Preferably a leash.
Brent
01-21-2009, 06:21 PM
Preferably a leash.
I feel the same way about parents with small children.
giantsfan
01-21-2009, 06:22 PM
I feel the same way about parents with small children.
I've been petitioning my parents to leash my sister for years.
Brent
01-21-2009, 06:24 PM
They made harnesses for kids who are skiing with parents but I dont see why it has to only be used in skiing situations.
steelersfan43
01-21-2009, 06:26 PM
The guy didn't get to watch it on video from up above like we did. For all we know he barely saw it out of the corner of his eye. Bottom line: Somebody touches your child in a violent manner, you do what you need to do. The man was not out of line at all. He neutralized the threat and restrained himself at that point. Had he stood over the guy and started kicking him in the stomach repeatedly out of anger, he'd have to answer for that. For what he did though, he should be commended.
If anybody needs to be locked up it's the guy that can't keep from running up to children and trying to kick them for no apparent reason. Prisons should be reserved for those who are a threat to society; not those who are merely trying to protect their families from those threats.
Exactly, and its not like the guy could tell the person that just kicked his son was mentally disabled in the two seconds between when they walked in the door and when it happened. He was protecting his child from a random guy that (for all he knew) was assaulting his child.
giantsfan
01-21-2009, 06:26 PM
They made harnesses for kids who are skiing with parents but I dont see why it has to only be used in skiing situations.
Having recently seen a family friends kid bust his **** while skiing, flew into a tree, I understand why people would use those for skiing, but their use should really be mroe common in non-skiing situations.
Brent
01-21-2009, 06:31 PM
Having recently seen a family friends kid bust his **** while skiing, flew into a tree, I understand why people would use those for skiing, but their use should really be mroe common in non-skiing situations.
I mean, I am not asking parents to use choke collars, just something that keeps their kid from causing problems.
iowatreat54
01-21-2009, 06:32 PM
I mean, I am not asking parents to use choke collars, just something that keeps their kid from causing problems.
I still maintain that intelligence tests should be required before procreating.
CashmoneyDrew
01-21-2009, 09:16 PM
I still maintain that intelligence tests should be required before procreating.
One of my platforms for when I run for presidency in 2024 is that everyone must be pre-approved to have children.
Jvig43
01-21-2009, 09:38 PM
I mean, I am not asking parents to use choke collars, just something that keeps their kid from causing problems.
Or just do your job as a parent and watch your ******* kid.
Staubach12
01-21-2009, 09:46 PM
You have exceeded the maximum amount of acronyms allowed per sentence
I usually hate them, but I just had the sudden urge.
No punishment needed for either side.
The mentally handicapped guy gets a break for his condition and he didn't actually harm the kid.
The guy that punched him gets a break because he was just protecting his kid.
BRAVEHEART
01-21-2009, 09:50 PM
Or just do your job as a parent and watch your ******* kid.
That's real talk right there. My parents kept me in line, I was never actin a fool, unless they permitted it.
CJSchneider
01-21-2009, 09:59 PM
That's real talk right there. My parents kept me in line, I was never actin a fool, unless they permitted it.
This man speaks the truth. If I were inserted into that situation odds are I'd be in between the man on the phone and my kid, kicking my own kid for being loud to begin with.
TimDris
01-21-2009, 10:04 PM
Theres a lot of ways to handle that. I think what he did was not wrong. He took out the threat to his child and thats all.
Jvig43
01-21-2009, 10:05 PM
I mean Im a coordinator at a summer camp, constantly watching 50 + kids in just my group alone, and never once have I let something happen to any of those kids, or let them wander off and get into trouble. It shouldnt be hard to manage 1-4 kids, especially your own. Going back to the video, the man had every right to knock that guy out. You dont stop and analyze the situation if someone is threatening your kid. It should be instinct to just step in and protect your child. Kids are noisy to begin with, espically if their getting a meal at Mcdonalds or what not. No matter what way you shape it, the guy should be put away from society. We shouldnt even be speaking about whether the kid made too much noise at a McDonalds or whether the Father should of analyzed if the guy was mentally challenged.
Twiddler
01-21-2009, 10:14 PM
No punishment needed for either side.
The mentally handicapped guy gets a break for his condition and he didn't actually harm the kid.
The guy that punched him gets a break because he was just protecting his kid.
Exactly, its sad that this happened but its just the product of a handicapped person reacting violently to something and the other man just protecting his son out of instinct. This kind of stuff happens with handicapped people too (at least in my experience) as they get their emotions all mixed up. In fact, my younger brother (who has autism) started hitting me pretty violently today when he thought that I was about to eat his pizza. It happens.
Jakey
01-21-2009, 10:49 PM
Exactly, its sad that this happened but its just the product of a handicapped person reacting violently to something and the other man just protecting his son out of instinct. This kind of stuff happens with handicapped people too (at least in my experience) as they get their emotions all mixed up. In fact, my younger brother (who has autism) started hitting me pretty violently today when he thought that I was about to eat his pizza. It happens.
Yeah i remember you saying about your bro, i remember your awesome tatt. Me and pretty much all my family work with people with special needs; when you have experience with it you know what to expect...but to an unknowing bystander, he wasnt in the wrong for protecting his son.
giantsfan
01-21-2009, 11:11 PM
Beat The Stupid Out Of Him!!!!
BRAVEHEART
01-21-2009, 11:14 PM
Beat The Stupid Out Of Him!!!!
The sad part about this post is that I laughed.:(
giantsfan
01-21-2009, 11:21 PM
The sad part about this post is that I laughed.:(
that's not sad, the sad part will be when someone flips **** and tells me I'm an insensitive jackass.
BRAVEHEART
01-21-2009, 11:25 PM
that's not sad, the sad part will be when someone flips **** and tells me I'm an insensitive jackass.
well atleast you know they are coming.
Brent
01-21-2009, 11:44 PM
that's not sad, the sad part will be when someone flips **** and tells me I'm an insensitive jackass.
YOUR A ENSENSATIVE JACKASS! I BE SO OFFENDED!
haha, I had to do that.
BRAVEHEART
01-21-2009, 11:57 PM
that's not sad, the sad part will be when someone flips **** and tells me I'm an insensitive jackass.
YOUR A ENSENSATIVE JACKASS! I BE SO OFFENDED!
See...i told you.
iworshipbender
01-22-2009, 12:12 AM
No matter how many times I watch this, it never gets old.
giantsfan
01-22-2009, 12:49 AM
YOUR A ENSENSATIVE JACKASS! I BE SO OFFENDED!
haha, I had to do that.
I ments for you to be offendedzz muhfuh
RaiderNation
01-22-2009, 12:52 AM
Damn lol. Poor guy.
Twiddler
01-22-2009, 12:52 AM
that's not sad, the sad part will be when someone flips **** and tells me I'm an insensitive jackass.
Meh, I've learned to stop flipping **** over stuff like this. People have their opinions and there's often nothing I can do about it, especially when it is being said amongst a group of normal people. However, if a person ever took to saying something cruel to a person of special needs just for the sake getting in a laugh, I can guarantee this: **** will be flipped, ha.
Brent
01-22-2009, 12:53 AM
I ments for you to be offendedzz muhfuh
MOFUKUH I IS SOOOOZZ OFFENDED!
BRAVEHEART
01-22-2009, 12:55 AM
Meh, I've learned to stop flipping **** over stuff like this. People have their opinions and there's often nothing I can do about it, especially when it is being said amongst a group of normal people. However, if a person ever took to saying something cruel to a person of special needs just for the sake getting in a laugh, I can guarantee this: **** will be flipped, ha.
how would you flip the ****...sideways?
giantsfan
01-22-2009, 12:59 AM
MOFUKUH I IS SOOOOZZ OFFENDED!
YOUZ BETTERZ BE OFFENDEDZ ELSE I'MMA WHOOP YO ***** ASS
Twiddler
01-22-2009, 12:59 AM
how would you flip the ****...sideways?
In all directions, ha.
giantsfan
01-22-2009, 01:00 AM
Meh, I've learned to stop flipping **** over stuff like this. People have their opinions and there's often nothing I can do about it, especially when it is being said amongst a group of normal people. However, if a person ever took to saying something cruel to a person of special needs just for the sake getting in a laugh, I can guarantee this: **** will be flipped, ha.
Good thing we didn't go to high school together, my school got all of the hearing impaired and special needs kids from the area, and I was a horrible human being back then.
Twiddler
01-22-2009, 01:03 AM
Good thing we didn't go to high school together, my school got all of the hearing impaired and special needs kids from the area, and I was a horrible human being back then.
Yeah, that's for sure. I was pretty pissed off about all those things too when I was in high school and that might have not made a good combination. Not that I had no reason to be pissed off, but there are better ways to deal with people than flying off the handle.
BRAVEHEART
01-22-2009, 01:04 AM
In all directions, ha.
just dont flip on me.
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