Source: Edwards fired by Kansas City

[Splat]

Source: Edwards fired by Kansas City (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3855917)

KANSAS CITY -- Chiefs coach Herm Edwards was fired Friday, a well-placed source told ESPN.

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Thats all it says.

[MetSox17]

Well we can't say we didn't see this coming.

[tjsunstein]

No surprise here. Who is among the potential canididates?

[Splat]

No surprise here. Who is among the potential canididates?

From what I have read and seen everyone and your mother.

[bored of education]

Haley
Gailey
Shanahanahanhnan
Cowher
Ghandi

[Splat]

Haley
Gailey
Shanahanahanhnan
Cowher
Ghandi

Tuna as well never going to happen.

[vidae]

Just saw it on the ESPN ticker. It's official.

Oh well. I don't like the move but I can see why they did it.

[T-RICH49]

gut feeling says Haley will be the next HC.there's a lot of smoke around his name with KC

[Geo]

Finally, now he can come to the Colts. ;)

[adschofield]

I think it will be Shanny

[Splat]

I think it is the right move for the team that being said I do like Herm Edwards as a person and do feel bad for him but he won't be out of work long.

[Geo]

I think it will be Shanny
This is the weirdest rumor. I don't believe it at all.

[vidae]

I've said it for years, Herm Edwards is a good football coach. Most people can't see past wins and losses but there is more to it than that. He is a great talent evaluator, he is a great motivator, his players play hard for him every down because they buy into his philosophy. We were more competitive this year than many people predicted. At the end of the day though, all most people care about is wins.

Like I said, I don't like this move but I can fully understand why it happened. Oh well. Now I can hope that Cowher is our next coach! Go longshots!

[MetSox17]

If Kansas City ends up with Todd Haley, i think they'll be greatly disappointed a year from now.

[T-RICH49]

This is the weirdest rumor. I don't believe it at all.

never know maybe the revenge factor plus maybe his goal is to coach all 4 AFC West teams :D

[vidae]

If Kansas City ends up with Todd Haley, i think they'll be greatly disappointed a year from now.

I agree with you on this one but eh. I hope Pioli has someone in mind that none of us have thought about yet, or seemed like too much of a longshot to consider.

[tjsunstein]

Looks like LJ is getting shopped since he doesnt have that special bond with his african american coach anymore. Unless they hire one..
Haley is not soft spoken at all and I think he will put some fire into that team.

[Geo]

I'm thinking the next coach will be Haley or someone from Parcell's staff in Miami.

[keylime_5]

Shanahan is in talks to become KC's new coach per espin. Shanahan and Pioli, good offseason for KC if they can pull that off.

[bam bam]

I bet its Kirk Ferentz

[stealthbomber]

I've said it for years, Herm Edwards is a good football coach. Most people can't see past wins and losses but there is more to it than that.
When it comes down to it, it IS ABOUT wins & losses.

[stealthbomber]

Shanahan is in talks to become KC's new coach per espin. Shanahan and Pioli, good offseason for KC if they can pull that off.

That would be fricking hilarious.
Shanahan: Oakland> Denver> Kansas City

He'd just need to get to San Diego later to complete the cycle in the AFC West.

[Splat]

Shanahan is in talks to become KC's new coach per espin. Shanahan and Pioli, good offseason for KC if they can pull that off.

Just saw that!!!

[T-RICH49]

Shanahan is in talks to become KC's new coach per espin. Shanahan and Pioli, good offseason for KC if they can pull that off.

WOOOOO MAKE THIS HAPPEN

edit: now it says Chiefs near deal with Mike Shanahan to become next Chiefs head coach

[bored of education]

hmm Rooney Rule thread anyone lol

[Splat]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/...tory?id=3855917 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3855917)

[LonghornsLegend]

Good, now this can kill Shanny to Dallas rumors and maybe we can look forward to Holmgren in 09?


I wanted to see Herm get the DC job in Indy, wonder where he's headed now.

[vidae]

I'm sure they've talked to a ton of coaches in the last week or so lol.

[adschofield]

Pioli + Shanahan + Crennel as DC=Greatest Offseason Ever :D

[BeerBaron]

I'm sure they've talked to a ton of coaches in the last week or so lol.

Hopefully.

Anyone know if they interviewed a minority candidate before Shanahan?

If not....I think this is a dumb route to take. I would have at least given Romeo an interview to comply with the Rooney rule and because of his past connection with Pioli and the Pats.

Who knows, it could even turn into him being a defensive coordinator.

But I think it's silly to go hard, hardcore after 1 coach and let that be publicly known because your going to struggle to get a minority candidate in to interview if he knows its a sham.

Sorry if any of that was addressed already, didn't read through the entire threat.

[tjsunstein]

They might have even interviewed Crennel for the spot...

[Splat]

They might have even interviewed Crennel for the spot...

That is what I heard but no prove.

[Basileus777]

We really have no idea who they have interviewed. No one seems to have any reliable sources inside the KC organization other than maybe Mort who broke Herm being fired.

Schefter is still saying Shanny isn't a candidate, but he's been wrong at every point about the Chiefs. He thought we wouldn't get Pioli, he thought we would keep Herm.

[T-RICH49]

hmm Rooney Rule thread anyone lol

I think there were candidates interviewed.just cause it's not made public does'nt meant there were not other interviews

[adschofield]

Sounds like Crennel has been interviewed already...

[Splat]

MORT AND SCHEFTER DUEL OVER REPORTS OF SHANAHAN TO CHIEFS (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/01/23/mort-and-schefter-duel-over-reports-of-shanahan-to-chiefs/)

Posted by Mike Florio on January 23, 2009, 5:48 p.m.

Two of the top NFL (http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/#) information men in the business are engaged in a duel regarding the question of whether the Kansas City Chiefs are talking to former Broncos coach Mike Shanahan regarding the possibility of replacing former Chiefs coach Herm Edwards.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the Chiefs and Shanahan are closing in on a deal.

Adam Schefter of NFL Network reported on Thursday, and has reiterated today, that the Chiefs have made no contact with Shanahan.

“[u]nless people I have known for years are blatantly lying to me, Shanahan is not going to be the next head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs,” Schefter writes. “It is not happening. People can keep talking as if it is. But it is not. He will not be the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs in 2009.”

Pistols or swords, gentlemen?

[adschofield]

Schefter's going to get embrassed...

[Geo]

I believe Schefter for the time being, especially over anyone from ESPN. He's better, plus he's tight like a glove with the Broncos and Shanny given that he used to be their beat reporter a few years ago.

[Splat]

Looks like Mort is back peddling now the ticker on ESPN says the Chiefs are just talking with MS it had said they were close to a deal.

[CC.SD]

Shanny thought about what his life would be like without sticking it to Al Davis and went "naaaaah"

[T-RICH49]

Schefter is going to look bad.Shanny will be the Chiefs next coach I am almost certain of it

[vidae]

Getting Shanahan and Pioli in one off season would be an amazing turnaround (or potential turnaround) just please please please for the love of god let Pioli make personnel decisions Shanny. He is a much better talent evaluator than you are.

edit: Oh, and please hire a defensive coordinator worth a damn.

[BeerBaron]

edit: Oh, and please hire a defensive coordinator worth a damn.

Mr. Crennel says hi!

Would it really come as a surprise to anyone?

[vidae]

Mr. Crennel says hi!

Would it really come as a surprise to anyone?

No, and I would absolutely love that hire.

[LonghornsLegend]

Mort comes out with false reports all throughout the year, it would not be shocking at all if he was wrong again, you never know what your getting with his reports.

[gpngc]

If Shanny does go to KC, my question is does he view Mark Sanchez as a franchise QB? And if not, would he give up a 2nd round pick or a future 1st for Stafford?

We all know he loves big-armed and big-time QBs and probably won't want to go into camp with Tyler Thigpen or a veteran stopgap.

[vidae]

If Shanny does go to KC, my question is does he view Mark Sanchez as a franchise QB? And if not, would he give up a 2nd round pick or a future 1st for Stafford?

We all know he loves big-armed and big-time QBs and probably won't want to go into camp with Tyler Thigpen or a veteran stopgap.

If he is hired as HC I would assume that we'd take Stafford or Sanchez, whichever is available there at 3. Pioli does like to move around on draft day so I could see a trade-up to 1st scenario if they are that high on Stafford, but they'd have to view him as the far superior prospect in order for that to happen I'd think.

[T-RICH49]

now rumors in radio are KC is targeting Bill Cowher.man so many rumors in just a few hours

[vidae]

now rumors in radio are KC is targeting Bill Cowher.man so many rumors in just a few hours

Cowher is who I really want here.

And for the Shanahan thing, I don't really WANT him here but he used to be a semi decent coach, right? He wouldn't be my first choice but he's got history in this league so maybe that's why they're wanting him here, idk.

I thought he was a half decent coach but a horrible talent evaluator. If that were the case, Pioli can take care of that stuff and Shanny can take care of the coaching.

[Geo]

Bill Cowher isn't going to happen.

Get a grip, Kansas City.

[vidae]

Bill Cowher isn't going to happen.

Get a grip, Kansas City.

You don't understand! We've had 10+ names being floated around by every major news media outlet in the country! We don't know WHAT to expect anymore!

[Turtlepower]

You don't understand! We've had 10+ names being floated around by every major news media outlet in the country! We don't know WHAT to expect anymore!

Brett Favre was even mentioned. Damn Media *****!

[bored of education]

Bringing back Vince Lombardi to coach the Chiefs

[Gay Ork Wang]

Mike Ditka anyone?

[eazyb81]

i also am not sure why afc west fans want shanahan, after watching his miserable coaching the last few years.

Miserable coaching? He's owned the AFC West and always put Denver in a position to win the division. I don't know how you can be disappointed in what he's accomplished for your franchise.

I'd take Shanny in a heartbeat, and I'd take him over Cowher if given the choice.

[bigbluedefense]

My concern would be what kind of defensive staff they bring in. They should stick to a Tampa 2 like scheme, because they just drafted some integral pieces last year to make it work.

I like Leslie Frazier. Give the man a chance.

[TimD]

Where does Herm land?

[locseti]

ESPN reporting Jerry Glanville as the top candidate.

[vidae]

Wonder how many more "top candidates" we can have for this job, sheesh.

[Nitschke-Hawk]

Bringing back Vince Lombardi to coach the Chiefs


Mike Ditka anyone?


Why not Hank Stram?

http://a1259.g.akamai.net/f/1259/5586/1d/images.art.com/images/-/Hank-Stram-Photograph-C10108394.jpeg

[T-RICH49]

I'd take Shanny in a heartbeat, and I'd take him over Cowher if given the choice.

had me up until this quote

[T-RICH49]

ESPN just said Tim Tebow is in the running for HC so then next year he can draf himself 1st overall

[eazyb81]

had me up until this quote

Eh, I think Cowher is incredibly overrated.

[eazyb81]

he's the primary reason our defense went downhill. and i don't just mean through personnel moves. he was the one who had larry coyer quit the blitz packages that coyer ran that made our defense one of the best in the league.

further, if the scripted plays at the beginning failed (or even succeeded), the remainder of the playcalling had become completely stale and predictable over the last few seasons.

did he do an incredible job getting jake plummer to lead a team to the AFCC? absolutely. has he done a piss poor job with the team, offense and defense (on the field) since? absolutely.

that said, i think shanny can still be a good head coach. but i don't think that'll happen next year. i strongly believe he needs some time away from the game, before he can come back and coach like he did in the 90's.

Personally, I think you're thinking too much about what happened the past year or two, and letting that take precedence in your evaluation of him. It's just like how most Chiefs fans still mock Marty Schottenheimer; there are too many biases in the way to make a clear evaluation.

If you asked non-Denver fans what they thought about Shanny, I'm sure he would receive a resoundingly positive review.

Yes, he sucked ass with the defense recently, but he's also been a genius with the offense his entire tenure in Denver. Hopefully, Pioli's presence will enable Shanny to focus on what he does best, instead of trying to control everything.

All this being said, I'm highly doubtful that he even ends up with KC.

[CashmoneyDrew]

All this being said, I'm highly doubtful that he even ends up with KC.

This is entirely offtopic, but do you stay around Murfreesboro? I recently saw a car there that had a bumper sticker exactly like your sig. Then again I have no clue what your sig relates to so I don't know how common it truly is.

[T-RICH49]

espn news just reported a deal with Shanahan is unlikely.nice responsible journalism espn not

[Menardo75]

Welcome coach Haley.

[adschofield]

espn news just reported a deal with Shanahan is unlikely.nice responsible journalism espn not

I wouldn't give up yet...They might be trying to come to the center after hearing Schefter's report. I don't really think anyone knows anything besides the fact that Shanahan is the top candidate.

[The Legend]

Jon Gruden is who I would pick

[Geo]

The most important thing is who does Scott Pioli pick, because those two have to have the same vision of the team they are building. The President/GM knows what players that the Head Coach and his staff look for, and those coaches prepare the players best they can so that they can succeed on gamedays.

It's not like fantasy football, you can't just pick and choose.

[PACKmanN]

Jon Gruden is who I would pick

I bet him and Larry Johnson get in a fight before the start of the season if he would be named HC.

I wouldn't be surpirsed it its someone from one of the two teams still playing. Cheifs' fans what are you're thoughts on Greg Manusky?

[Ward]

This is entirely offtopic, but do you stay around Murfreesboro? I recently saw a car there that had a bumper sticker exactly like your sig. Then again I have no clue what your sig relates to so I don't know how common it truly is.

I'm only 22 and I know who the Dead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grateful_Dead) are.

[Splat]

Jon Gruden is who I would pick

Please no.

Five are Chiefs options to replace Herman Edwards (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=fivearechiefsoptionstore&prov=tsn&type=lgns)

[T-RICH49]

Pasqauloni?that would be a terrible choice

[eazyb81]

This is entirely offtopic, but do you stay around Murfreesboro? I recently saw a car there that had a bumper sticker exactly like your sig. Then again I have no clue what your sig relates to so I don't know how common it truly is.

No I live in the Vandy area, but this logo is pretty common, it's for the Grateful Dead.

[CashmoneyDrew]

I'm only 22 and I know who the Dead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grateful_Dead) are.

Eh, I'm 20 and know who the Dead are. Just used to the lightning bolt skull instead.

[TitleTown088]

Haha, I don't mean to be a prick, but how do you not know who the grateful dead bears are? Actually, I met a kid the other day who hadn't even heard of the greatful dead.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Haha, I don't mean to be a prick, but how do you not know who the grateful dead bears are? Actually, I met a kid the other day who hadn't even heard of the greatful dead.

Because I've only seen the "grateful dead bears" twice. In easy's sig and on that bumper sticker. I see the lightning bolt skull all the time, not the bears though.

[Brent]

what are you're thoughts on Greg Manusky?
**** that, just what we need another coordinator stolen away.

[Menardo75]

I bet him and Larry Johnson get in a fight before the start of the season if he would be named HC.

I wouldn't be surpirsed it its someone from one of the two teams still playing. Cheifs' fans what are you're thoughts on Greg Manusky?

You keep your dick beaters away from Greg you hear.

[AFIFreak]

hmmm... mort or schefter on a rumor. gosh, i can't think of who's been more reliable over the last several years...

i also am not sure why afc west fans want shanahan, after watching his miserable coaching the last few years.

I have to agree with you but I think I am in the minority here. I am a Chiefs fan and I DO NOT want Shanahan here.

[savedbygrace89]

Miserable coaching? He's owned the AFC West and always put Denver in a position to win the division. I don't know how you can be disappointed in what he's accomplished for your franchise.

I'd take Shanny in a heartbeat, and I'd take him over Cowher if given the choice.

That would be a joke for sure. Cowher didnt have the big offensive shows in Pittsburgh, but the Steelers were winners just about every season and 2 super bowls for Cowher and 1 victory of the two and without Neil O'Donnell having a brain fart the Steelers should have ended the NFC's hold on the super bowl at that time...
Shanahan over Cowher.... that still has me laughing....

[Ward]

That would be a joke for sure. Cowher didnt have the big offensive shows in Pittsburgh, but the Steelers were winners just about every season and 2 super bowls for Cowher and 1 victory of the two and without Neil O'Donnell having a brain fart the Steelers should have ended the NFC's hold on the super bowl at that time...
Shanahan over Cowher.... that still has me laughing....

There is 100% no way you can prove that, so it doesn't help your argument.

[Splat]

Fired Chiefs coach Edwards joins ESPN (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AsuzYtId8sSoHOH2d_S94alDubYF?slug=ap-edwards-espn&prov=ap&type=lgns)

[BlindSite]

I was a little surprised there was no pursuit from Carolina, I guess the ESPN money was more than he'd get in the NFL.

[Splat]

I was a little surprised there was no pursuit from Carolina, I guess the ESPN money was more than he'd get in the NFL.

If he didn't take a NFL job this year then he still gets 4 million from the Chiefs.

[T-RICH49]

sounds like he's taking over for Emmitt,If that is true Herm is once again my friend