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Calvin & Kevin

01-24-2009, 01:28 PM

Kansas City trades #3 to San Francisco for 1st (#10) and 2nd (#42)

Kansas City trades #10 to Tampa Bay for 1st (#19), 3rd (#83) and 5th (#147)

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1 Detroit Andre Smith - LT, Alabama
Lions fans on this site will disagree, but I don't see them taking Stafford and I don't think they should. I know all about Scott's "franchise QB" rule, but that's assuming Stafford IS a legit franchise QB and I don't think that's a sure enough thing. I think the Lions have to build a team first before they can get someone to lead it. Smith or Monroe is a toss-up; I'll go with Smith on more powerful run blocking.

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2 St. Louis Eugene Monroe - LT, Virginia
Rams certainly need a replacement for Pace, and this is a good year and spot for them to get it. Monroe goes over Oher on a little more refinement and program reputation.

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3 SF (From KC) Matthew Stafford - QB, Georgia
It's still at this point really hard to say what the Chiefs will do - there's Pioli, there's Thigpen, who knows about the coaching staff. The Patriots sure weren't known for drafting high-profile guys, and were more likely to trade down as much as possible. So I say since the two real franchise LTs went 1-2, the Chiefs take a weak deal (first and second only) from San Francisco to trade down and give SF the potential franchise QB they want.

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4 Seattle Michael Crabtree - WR, Texas Tech
This is the equivalent of Stafford to the Lions - too easy and cliched to go against unless you have some deeper knowledge of the team. Seahawks surely do need a WR, no doubt about that. Sorry to any Hawks fans if there's some other need I'm overlooking.

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5 Cleveland Brian Orakpo - OLB, Texas
Kamerion Wimbley has been a disappointment. A lot of mocks have Curry penciled in for the Browns' OLB need, but I think Orakpo makes more sense - he's the best pass-rusher in the draft, he will totally blow the roof off the combine with his measurables, and at OLB he can avoid some of his problems against the run. I think the Browns will look at him and see Shawne Merriman.

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6 Cincinnati Michael Oher - LT, Ole Miss
I really don't buy the notion that Oher will fall into the teens or beyond. Just look at the man's incredible mixture of size, power, athleticism and experience. Any team that needs tackle help would be fools to let him slide at this point.

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7 Oakland Jason Smith - LT, Baylor
I think that the 4 highest tackles will all go early. It's one of the only legitimately stacked positions in this draft. Oakland has needed LT help for the longest, and they're just happy that one is still left.

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8 Jacksonville Aaron Curry - OLB, Wake Forest
As one of the elite talents in the draft, any team at this position would have to consider Curry if he fell to #8. I have no doubt that he could be moved to the middle to replace Peterson, and handle the switch just fine.

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9 Green Bay B.J. Raji - NT, Boston College
I hear the Packers are going to a 3-4 defense, so what could possibly be a better fit for them than landing the nose tackle they need for it? Raji, as we know, is on an elevator ride to the top 10.

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10 Tampa (From KC) Mark Sanchez - QB, USC
Crafty Pioli does it again - takes less than he could have demanded for a team wanting a QB. Tampa got sick of Gruden and his veteran QB's who didn't like him, and of never getting a QB of the future. The new management team wants one. Though to me it's a risky pick - you draft a QB with 16 career starts, you could end up with Akili Smith.

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11 Buffalo Everette Brown - DE, Florida State
I don't have the greatest feel for what the Bills need but I gather they need pass rush help. Brown might not be the perfect fit for the Bills' scheme, but he's a talented edge speed rusher.

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12 Denver Knowshon Moreno - RB, Georgia
WIth Shanahan out, are the Broncos' days of "plug in any back and watch him run for 1,000 yards" over? They might be. Maybe it's time for them to get a genuine marquee back. I like Moreno's quickness over Wells' power.

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13 Washington Aaron Maybin - DE, Penn State
Another team I don't have a great feel for, and there's no obvious match here between what the Redskins appear to need and what's available. They do need DL help though, and this draft does seem to have a number of promising pass rushers, like Maybin.

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14 New Orleans Malcolm Jenkins - CB, Ohio State
Saints never really seem to get their CB's in order, do they? Fortunately for them the best and safest CB in the draft has fallen to #14 because of less-than-awesome 40 times at the combine. Perfect fit.

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15 Houston William Moore - S, Missouri
Defensive ends have gone fast, as evidenced by Maybin going 13th. There really isn't one left that fits at this high of a slot, so the Texans look for secondary help. It might be a little high for Moore here also, but he's the best DB option left on the board.

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16 San Diego Chris Wells - RB, Ohio State
Everyone's saying that LT or Sproles are gone for sure. I'm not convinced, but for the purposes of this mock I'll go ahead and accept it. Either way, a 2nd back would be needed either because of Sproles' size or LT's age, and a bigger, more powerful back would be a good complement.

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17 New York Jets Tyson Jackson - DE, LSU
I'm right with Scott on this one. The Jets' 3-4 needs a prototypical run-stopping end, and Jackson is beyond a perfect fit. This one's a no-brainer.

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18 Chicago Larry English - DE, Northern Illinois
You think the Bears are drafting a WR in the first round? Never happen. Even though DE's have gone early, there's still local kid English, who showed out very well at the Senior Bowl and will probably also put up good numbers at the combine. Bears need pass-rush help and this is the kind of guy they like.

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19 KC (From Tampa) Eben Britton - T, Arizona
And here's where KC lands, in true Pioli-Patriots style: picking up a number of later picks and taking a boring but very solid OL late in the first round. If the pattern holds, we can look for Britton in the Pro Bowl no later than 2012.

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20 Detroit (from Dallas) Rey Maualuga - MLB, USC
The Lions' management and coaches have both said they want to build from the inside out, to run the ball, and to stop the run. They got their huge powerful LT, so someone who can play MLB and actually tackle people would be an important next step. And Rey certainly is big.

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21 Philadelphia Brandon Pettigrew - TE, Oklahoma State
Seems like everyone hates L.J. Smith. Pettigrew isn't a premier pass-catching weapon but is an elite blocking TE, and McNabb and Westbrook will both benefit from that, especially 4 times a year against the Cowboys and Giants.

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22 Minnesota Vontae Davis - CB, Illinois
I guess Josh Freeman is an option, but I don't see it. I think the Vikings need secondary help and Davis is talented enough to be worth the risk at this slot.

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23 New England Clint Sintim - LB, Virgini
It's good when they're this easy to call. Sintim is looking more and more like a stud and could move up higher than this by draft time, but if he slides to the Pats he's a great fit, could be groomed for one of their OLB positions or move inside to play next to Mayo and be a big run-thumper.

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24 Atlanta Peria Jerry - NT, Ole Miss
Another good fit, Falcons need a big NT type to take on the center in their Cover 2 defense and Jerry has looked good and powerful at the Senior Bowl.

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25 Miami Jeremy Maclin - WR, Missouri
This is a little shaky to me, it seems like the Fins, in year 2 of a so-far-successful rebuilding project, might choose to work on their defense or OL. But Maclin is a genuine blue chipper and at #25 he might be too good to pass on since the Dolphins do really need WR help.

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26 Baltimore D.J. Moore - CB, Vanderbilt
I feel like it's always safe to assume the Ravens will go after defense in the first round, last year notwithstanding. Chris McAlister could leave, so a CB is a good bet. I think D.J. Moore is the best option on the board at this point.

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27 Indianapolis Darius Butler - CB, Connecticut
I had a hard time deciding between a CB and WR here. I think there's still a chance Marvin Harrison will return at a reduced salary so I'll go CB for now. Butler goes over Alphonso Smith on size.

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28 Philadelphia (from Carolina) William Beatty - OT, Connecticut
Playing it safe with the Eagles, aren't I? I think this is like Duane Brown last year - OT's have gone off the board fast like they usually do, so late in round one someone reaches for one you would have expected in later rounds. And like Brown, Beatty could turn out pretty good.

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29 New York Giants Darrius Heyward-Bey - WR, Maryland
Meanwhile, WR's have slid somewhat, giving the Giants a chance to get a tall, fast receiver to replace that one that they missed so very badly down the stretch in '08.

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30 Tennessee Percy Harvin - WR, Florida
It's such an easy call to say the Titans will pick a WR. And yet they never do. But I'm going to go ahead and do it anyway, since at this point WR's have slid to the point of being overvalued and Harvin is a for-real threat as a receiver and returner.

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31 Arizona LeSean McCoy - RB, Pittsburgh
Even if the Cards win the darn Super Bowl, you know Edge ain't coming back, period. And you also know Tim Hightower isn't your #1 back. Easy call here.

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32 Pittsburgh Duke Robinson - G, Oklahoma
Steelers clearly need a lot of fresh blood on the offensive line, and I think they could use the biggest and most powerful run-blocker left on the board.

***BONUS PICK 'CUZ I'M A LIONS FAN, HAVE PITY ON ME***

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33 Detroit Alex Mack - C/G, California
Very tough call here - Lions have soo many needs left. But again, going with the stated goals of management and coaching, I think here you have to get a guy who can play anywhere on the interior line, he can instantly upgrade a guard position, both of which are woeful, and replace the tragically undersized Dominic Raiola in a season or two.

PS - rep me!

Whistler6

01-24-2009, 01:31 PM

Props on both the mock and the jerseys.. I'm not sure I agree or disagree with the Packers pick. Can't deny Raji's talent though.

wicket

01-24-2009, 01:36 PM

I like the pick but we draft his as a fs imo

Menardo75

01-24-2009, 01:52 PM

I will never rep you until you change that god damn niner pick. Why would we trade up for a QB when we are not even looking for one?

russie

01-24-2009, 01:55 PM

i love the vikes picking vontae

Calvin & Kevin

01-24-2009, 01:55 PM

I will never rep you until you change that god damn niner pick. Why would we trade up for a QB when we are not even looking for one?

Sez you - I think the 49ers need one even worse than the Lions do. They already have the makings of a decent team and now need someone better than busts and cast-offs to run it.

Even if someone from the team has actually stated they "aren't looking for a QB in the draft," I have two words for you. Smoke. Screen.

Menardo75

01-24-2009, 01:56 PM

Sez you - I think the 49ers need one even worse than the Lions do. At least they already have the makings of a decent team and now need someone better than busts and cast-offs to run it.

Even if someone from the team has actually stated they "aren't looking for a QB in the draft," I have two words for you. Smoke. Screen.

I have two words for you DUMB. ASS. Are you really going to sit there and tell me that the Lions QB situation is better than ours. Shaun Hill had more wins in a week than the Lions did all season. 7-3 is not something to take lightly.

Unbiased

01-24-2009, 01:59 PM

Curry's a good pick because I think he's the second best player in the draft, but he would play SLB, not MLB.

Calvin & Kevin

01-24-2009, 02:01 PM

I have two words for you DUMB. ASS. Are you really going to sit there and tell me that the Lions QB situation is better than ours. Shaun Hill had more wins in a week than the Lions did all season. 7-3 is not something to take lightly.
reading comprehension is key. also there's no need for personal insults.

I think the niners and lions QB situations are very similar - draft busts and also-rans.

The fact that your crappy QB won more games than our crappy QB's only makes my point. The Niners have a better team, and to take the next step they need a legitimate QB. The Lions don't even have a team yet, and so taking a risk for a franchise QB isn't the right move at this point. That is my reasoning.

Menardo75

01-24-2009, 02:05 PM

reading comprehension is key. also there's no need for personal insults.

I think the niners and lions QB situations are very similar - draft busts and also-rans.

The fact that your crappy QB won more games than our crappy QB's only makes my point. The Niners have a better team, and to take the next step they need a legitimate QB. The Lions don't even have a team yet, and so taking a risk for a franchise QB isn't the right move at this point. That is my reasoning.

I don't get how you can be crappy and be 7-3 as a starter in this league, and it's not like he was playing with a superbowl team. Hill is better than any QB you have. With what he has done you can't say he doesn't have a shot at being the answer. I know your team would love to win seven games, maybe even one?

Calvin & Kevin

01-24-2009, 02:07 PM

I don't get how you can be crappy and be 7-3 as a starter in this league, and it's not like he was playing with a superbowl team. Hill is better than any QB you have. With what he has done you can't say he doesn't have a shot at being the answer. I know your team would love to win seven games, maybe even one?
Seriously, what does that have to do with anything?

I don't think shaun hill is very good. I certainly don't think he's a franchise leader QB. So what do the Lions have to do with that? nothing. How about trying to discuss something without being insulting.

Menardo75

01-24-2009, 02:08 PM

JFINK11

01-24-2009, 02:12 PM

I don't get how you can be crappy and be 7-3 as a starter in this league, and it's not like he was playing with a superbowl team. Hill is better than any QB you have. With what he has done you can't say he doesn't have a shot at being the answer. I know your team would love to win seven games, maybe even one?

I am only commenting cause I love disagreeing with you on this. I could be wrong but they have a quarterback on their roster that has taken a team to the playoffs, Jon Kitna.....o and one of their QBs was given to them from Detriot. J.T. O'Suck who started the year as the starter of your team. More Personal attacks from you too, I wonder what its like to talk sports with you in person. haha

JFINK11

01-24-2009, 02:13 PM

O and how did you do the jersey displays. Thats pretty awesome. Only comment cause Im a Steelers fan; listen to reports about what teams are saying about Duke Robinson's work ethic. We've never been known as a team to draft players with a weak one and that's the rumored reason for his lackluster play in the national championship game. If he isn't a blue collar type of guy he won't be drafted by this city. (Plaxico was the last player we drafted with that attitude and we let him walk without even a low contract offer)

Menardo75

01-24-2009, 02:14 PM

I am only commenting cause I love disagreeing with you on this. I could be wrong but they have a quarterback on their roster that has taken a team to the playoffs, Jon Kitna.....o and one of their QBs was given to them from Detriot. J.T. O'Suck who started the year as the starter of your team. More Personal attacks from you too, I wonder what its like to talk sports with you in person. haha

Kitna has never led a team to the Playoffs first of all. Second O'Sullivan starting had nothing to do with his abilities Nolan started him for his own personal reason. Shaun Hill has come as close to leading a team to the playoffs as Kitna has.

BeerBaron

01-24-2009, 02:14 PM

I like the Jerseys.

though that does seem high for English...he may work his way up sure, but for now, it seems like a reach. Does fill our biggest need though.

Menardo75

01-24-2009, 02:17 PM

Seriously, what does that have to do with anything?

I don't think shaun hill is very good. I certainly don't think he's a franchise leader QB. So what do the Lions have to do with that? nothing. How about trying to discuss something without being insulting.

So because "YOU" don't think hes good means they need a QB. Ok since what you think rules all i'll tell you what I think. I think the Lions are one of the worst organizations in the NFL. One of the oldest teams in the NFL and no superbowl I think that's pathetic, so I think they need everything on their team.

There that's what I think.

Calvin & Kevin

01-24-2009, 02:17 PM

Your insulting the QB's on the Niners roster with no facts to back it up, nor any room to talk looking at your team.

So because "YOU" don't think hes good means they need a QB. Ok since what we think rules all i'll tell you what I think. I think the Lions are one of the worst organizations in the NFL. One of the oldest teams in the NFL and no superbowl I think that's pathetic, so I think they need everything on their team.

There that's what I think.

uh. I don't play or work for the Lions. Maybe you didn't realize that. Insulting them doesn't hurt my feelings or make me cry.

Anyway, some facts: 49ers were 23rd in yards per game, 22nd in points scored. In 9 games, Hill threw 13 TD's and 8 picks, and took 23 sacks - solidly mediocre.

He's a 7th year journeyman who is unlikely to blossom into a superstar at this point and if I were the Niners I would be looking for a better QB of the future - unless I have no intention of playing in a Super Bowl anytime soon.

I'm sorry I "insulted" him by saying I don't think he's that good. I guess you must be a family member.

So, to let this thread get back to my mock draft overall and not turn into a "Shaun Hill - Niners Long Term QB or Not" thread, I will now stop replying to you. Thanks for reading my mock.

BRAVEHEART

01-24-2009, 02:19 PM

JFINK11

01-24-2009, 02:19 PM

uh. I don't play or work for the Lions. Maybe you didn't realize that. Insulting them doesn't hurt my feelings or make me cry.

Anyway, some facts: 49ers were 23rd in yards per game, 22nd in points scored. In 9 games, Hill threw 13 TD's and 8 picks, and took 23 sacks - solidly mediocre.

He's a 7th year journeyman who is unlikely to blossom into a superstar at this point and if I were the Niners I would be looking for a better QB of the future - unless I have no intention of playing in a Super Bowl anytime soon.

I'm sorry I "insulted" him by saying I don't think he's that good. I guess you must be a family member.

So, to let this thread get back to my mock draft overall and not turn into a "Shaun Hill - Niners Long Term QB or Not" thread, I will now stop replying to you. Thanks for reading my mock.

thank you, i had the same thing on my last mock....except he said he wanted to punch me lol

Menardo75

01-24-2009, 02:20 PM

uh. I don't play or work for the Lions. Maybe you didn't realize that. Insulting them doesn't hurt my feelings or make me cry.

Anyway, some facts: 49ers were 23rd in yards per game, 22nd in points scored. In 9 games, Hill threw 13 TD's and 8 picks, and took 23 sacks - solidly mediocre.

He's a 7th year journeyman who is unlikely to blossom into a superstar at this point and if I were the Niners I would be looking for a better QB of the future - unless I have no intention of playing in a Super Bowl anytime soon.

I'm sorry I "insulted" him by saying I don't think he's that good. I guess you must be a family member.

So, to let this thread get back to my mock draft overall and not turn into a "Shaun Hill - Niners Long Term QB or Not" thread, I will now stop replying to you. Thanks for reading my mock.

I'm not insulting you i'm just saying that facts are kind of key in an argument. You have presented none and gone off of what you feel.

I'm not saying he is THE ANSWER im saying that you can't say HE'S NOT. If you wanna talk about your mock we can do that too it's not much better you have reaches from 15-32.

russie

01-24-2009, 02:21 PM

menardo,

hill sucks. kitna has at least won comeback player of the year(an award hill will never see), and i'd take Tarvaris Jackson over hill

Menardo75

01-24-2009, 02:22 PM

menardo,

hill sucks. kitna has at least won comeback player of the year(an award hill will never see), and i'd take Tarvaris Jackson over hill

And you wonder why the Vikings can't win a playoff game?

Hill won't win it because he won't have to comeback.

Calvin & Kevin

01-24-2009, 02:22 PM

I like the Jerseys.

though that does seem high for English...he may work his way up sure, but for now, it seems like a reach. Does fill our biggest need though.
I agree it seems like a reach, but one thing I will say, he seems like a great fit with your new *cough* DL coach - hard worker, nonstop motor, undersized but with great quickness, productive. He's a Marinelli kind of guy for sure.

russie

01-24-2009, 02:23 PM

And you wonder why the Vikings can't win a playoff game?

at least they made it. imagine what your 49'ers would have done if they had a decent qb

Menardo75

01-24-2009, 02:24 PM

at least they made it. imagine what your 49'ers would have done if they had a decent qb

Weird since if Hill had started the whole year they would probably be in the playoffs.

russie

01-24-2009, 02:24 PM

Hill won't win it because he won't have to comeback.

right, i forgot he would have to actually be something to come back to

Calvin & Kevin

01-24-2009, 02:24 PM

I was thinking I was going to enjoy this heading in,I was wrong. Right when I saw Andre Smith as the first pick...I cried inside. Mauluga on our team also doesn't feel right but fills a need. The mack pick is the worst. I love mack, think he's the best C in the draft by a large margin, but one of the lions only good lineman is a Center...so why would we draft one at 33?
Because we also need a guard in the worst way and Mack would be as good of a pick at guard as Levitre or Herman Johnson... then in a year or two we can get rid of Dom and put him at center. It's win-win both now and in the future.

(I'm not a big fan of Raiola at all - I've seen him get destroyed by DT's in the run game way too many times)

Menardo75

01-24-2009, 02:25 PM

right, i forgot he would have to actually be something to come back to

Yeah since Kitna was anything when he left.

russie

01-24-2009, 02:28 PM

my favorite part is that hill wasnt even good enough to stay on minnesota's roster. but you are right, he is so good, your team shouldnt look at a qb

Menardo75

01-24-2009, 02:30 PM

my favorite part is that hill wasnt even good enough to stay on minnesota's roster. but you are right, he is so good, your team shouldnt look at a qb

And see he left all he has done is...uhh..win hmm pretty sure that's what the QB position is about.

For the last time i'm not saying he is THE ANSWER I really don't think you can rule it out right now though and say he isn't

IF you had him you might have one a playoff game he is better than anyone you have on your team at QB.

JFINK11

01-24-2009, 02:33 PM

Kitna has never led a team to the Playoffs first of all. Second O'Sullivan starting had nothing to do with his abilities Nolan started him for his own personal reason. Shaun Hill has come as close to leading a team to the playoffs as Kitna has.

oh on the contrary my friend Jon Kitna lead the Seattle Seahawks to the playoffs in 1999... check your stats haha

JFINK11

01-24-2009, 02:35 PM

And see he left all he has done is...uhh..win hmm pretty sure that's what the QB position is about.

For the last time i'm not saying he is THE ANSWER I really don't think you can rule it out right now though and say he isn't

IF you had him you might have one a playoff game he is better than anyone you have on your team at QB.

if you dont have THE ANSWER you should keep trying to find one.....they wouldnt have made the playoffs with Hill more than likely.....you can dismiss it all you want but theres a reason he was 3rd on the depth chart to start the year and cut by the Vikings.....

Calvin & Kevin

01-24-2009, 02:35 PM

For God's sake why did this become the Shaun Hill Is Awesome thread? Menardo you've made your point, how about if you guys let it go now

BRAVEHEART

01-24-2009, 02:36 PM

Because we also need a guard in the worst way and Mack would be as good of a pick at guard as Levitre or Herman Johnson... then in a year or two we can get rid of Dom and put him at center. It's win-win both now and in the future.

(I'm not a big fan of Raiola at all - I've seen him get destroyed by DT's in the run game way too many times)

This is not Madden, it doesn't work out like that. Mack played Center his whole career, I could maybe understand Unger if that's what you want to do with him (Unger played all along the line and is the most versatile O-lineman in the draft), but he isn't BPA at any position, and IMO we have bigger needs like D-tackle, Cornerback, D-end, etc...

russie

01-24-2009, 02:37 PM

he is better than anyone you have on your team at QB.

gotta correct you there. your arguement that hill is a decent qb is based off of his record of 7-3. Frerotte went 8-3

Calvin & Kevin

01-24-2009, 02:43 PM

This is not Madden, it doesn't work out like that. Mack played Center his whole career, I could maybe understand Unger if that's what you want to do with him (Unger played all along the line and is the most versatile O-lineman in the draft), but he isn't BPA at any position, and IMO we have bigger needs like D-tackle, Cornerback, D-end, etc...
That may be true but I don't see any players at those 3 positions who make sense in that slot. I don't like Alphonso Smith, or Michael Johnson. Maybe Evander Hood would work there... but then again I have a hunch that our new coaches are going to find a way to use Fluellen and Cohen and DT might not be as big of a need as we think.

Unger maybe would be a better option for what I have in mind but I just really like Mack and think he would be a great addition to our interior line. That's just my take on it.

Edit: not to mention that Mack is known for high intelligence, hard work, leadership and excellent technique. I think it's not only realistic but a total given that he'd be able to handle playing guard.

russie

01-24-2009, 02:44 PM

anyways, back on topic. as i stated earlier, i like the vikes pick. i agree that josh freeman is tempting, but minnesota is a team that needs a qb that is ready now, not in a year or two. other options might be an offensive tackle, trade down, or trade the pick for a qb that is already in the nfl.

i really like the setup of your draft with the jerseys and such

Menardo75

01-24-2009, 02:59 PM

if you dont have THE ANSWER you should keep trying to find one.....they wouldnt have made the playoffs with Hill more than likely.....you can dismiss it all you want but theres a reason he was 3rd on the depth chart to start the year and cut by the Vikings.....

We don't know if he is yet that's the point im making. Your still not listening so your hopeless.

gotta correct you there. your arguement that hill is a decent qb is based off of his record of 7-3. Frerotte went 8-3

Your also hopeless. If Shaun Hill started the whole year his record would be better.

Zyro_1014

01-24-2009, 03:03 PM

For God's sake why did this become the Shaun Hill Is Awesome thread? Menardo you've made your point, how about if you guys let it go now

Shaun Hill is awesome...

captainjack27

01-24-2009, 03:07 PM

BRAVEHEART

01-24-2009, 03:09 PM

That may be true but I don't see any players at those 3 positions who make sense in that slot. I don't like Alphonso Smith, or Michael Johnson. Maybe Evander Hood would work there... but then again I have a hunch that our new coaches are going to find a way to use Fluellen and Cohen and DT might not be as big of a need as we think.

Unger maybe would be a better option for what I have in mind but I just really like Mack and think he would be a great addition to our interior line. That's just my take on it.

Edit: not to mention that Mack is known for high intelligence, hard work, leadership and excellent technique. I think it's not only realistic but a total given that he'd be able to handle playing guard.

He's the truth, most solid CB and the most skilled. He's a lil small, and he's not the fastest, but he's the most technically sound, and could contribute early.

Calvin & Kevin

01-24-2009, 03:25 PM

He's the truth, most solid CB and the most skilled. He's a lil small, and he's not the fastest, but he's the most technically sound, and could contribute early.
Small and slow. That's a really bad combo in a CB. He'd have to be one HELL of a technician.

Having said that, I haven't seen him much so maybe you're right, I don't know. I stand by my pick though.

bored of education

01-24-2009, 03:25 PM

If you project Britton to play RT then I love it. KC already has a guy that will be LT for 10-12 years in Albert, why move him when he has already proven he can be a stud after playing the position for only a year.

Calvin & Kevin

01-24-2009, 03:29 PM

indyfan1985

01-24-2009, 03:31 PM

Calvin & Kevin

01-24-2009, 03:39 PM

So tell me, why would the Colts reach for a CB who will go in the 2nd round when CB is not even their biggest need? Give the Colts either Lesean McCoy or Darrius Heyward Bey. Dont rule out them getting C Alex Mack to man the middle for them since Saturday might not be back and Pollak can then be kept at guard.

I get what you're saying, although I wouldn't give the Colts a RB in the first - maybe later rounds. But yes I considered a WR strongly. I just feel like Harrison and the Colts will find a way to bring him back for another year, and as long as you've still got him and Wayne and Gonzales, a first-round WR would be even sillier than reaching for a cornerback.

bored of education

01-24-2009, 03:47 PM

Thus the reason I listed the pick as "Eben Britton - T." Not LT.

Oh ok I didn't notice :)

I do like the picking up of a few draft picks as well for KC

BRAVEHEART

01-24-2009, 04:20 PM

Small and slow. That's a really bad combo in a CB. He'd have to be one HELL of a technician.

Having said that, I haven't seen him much so maybe you're right, I don't know. I stand by my pick though.

While he's not a "blazer" he's probably faster than any of the CB's we have on our roster (and probably has better ball skills too). His ceiling might not be as high as some of the other CB's in the draft (Davis,Butler,Jenkins,Lewis) but he's arguably the most polished and skilled of the group.

derza222

01-24-2009, 07:12 PM

Definitely disagree with you BIG TIME on the Jets draft pick. First of all Coleman and Ellis are both capable starters as 3-4 ends. Second of all Jackson actually looks to rush the passer pretty frequently, he's a run stopping end in the 4-3 but not the 3-4 and would have a bit of adjustment despite his prototypical measurements for the position. The Jets do have huge needs for an inside linebacker, a safety next to Kerry Rhodes, and a wide receiver to stretch the field. I would be furious if they passed on the best 3-4 ILB prospect in the draft (Maualuga) or arguably the best/most polished speed receiver in the draft (Maclin) to pick an overrated 3-4 fit at a position of minimal need for considerably worse value in Jackson. Absolutely not a no brainer to go Jackson there, if there's any no brainer it's Maualuga with Maclin as a close second.

Calvin & Kevin

01-24-2009, 07:59 PM

Seamus2602

01-24-2009, 08:01 PM

I get what you're saying, although I wouldn't give the Colts a RB in the first - maybe later rounds. But yes I considered a WR strongly. I just feel like Harrison and the Colts will find a way to bring him back for another year, and as long as you've still got him and Wayne and Gonzales, a first-round WR would be even sillier than reaching for a cornerback.

At Running Back, Joe Addai had a bad year that was in part due to bad blocking, injuries on the Offensive Line, injuries to Peyton Manning etc. We will not be replacing Joe Addai and we have two young Running Backs on the Roster, in Mike Hart and Chad Simpson, who are both liked by Polian.

Why would we burn a 1st Round pick on a Corner Back? Polian has already made it clear that he feels that Kelvin Hayden will be back. That means that we have are two starting Corners back for next season. Are we gonna draft a Nickle in the 1st Round?

In terms of Wide Reciever, I only think the Colts go Wide Receiver if there isn't the talent at either DT or Will LB. Considering that Baby Animal is still on the board I don't think Indy will go CB, WR or RB.

gpngc

01-24-2009, 08:11 PM

BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD for the Seahawks...

Crabtree will wear 85!

proshoota25

01-24-2009, 09:32 PM

decent patriots pick.... nice job wit the jerseys

Cronin

01-24-2009, 09:49 PM

I love the Jersey's, and Sintim was not a bad pick at all for my beloved Patriots :)

thebow305

01-24-2009, 11:59 PM

Nice effort on the mock, but TERRIBLE Phins pick.

There are not a ton of picks you can make for the Phins that will pass me off, but this is one of them. Maclin is pretty much Ginn part 2. And while I'm not saying that's a bad thing, he just clearly brings nothing new to our team as a Wide Receiver.

If we are going Wide Receiver in the 1st, DHB would have been a much better pick!

But +REP on the effort.

bucs-buffs-avs

01-25-2009, 12:41 PM

A+ Bucs draft. Get a franchise QB without giving up too much.

YoJoeBucsFan

01-25-2009, 01:50 PM

Like the work you put into the mock, but I don't like the trade at all. Sanchez is going to be terrible at the next level.

HeavyLeggedWaistBender

01-25-2009, 01:57 PM

Ridiculous Bears pick. I love it when theres jerseys though...Im torn.

d34ng3l021

01-25-2009, 02:23 PM

Peria Jerry is 6'2" 290. He is a UT, which we have.

hugegmenfan

01-25-2009, 02:26 PM

beautiful giants pick

jCut

01-25-2009, 02:46 PM

Terrible Denver pick. No way we pass on Malcolm Jenkins in that situation.

ag27

01-25-2009, 11:29 PM

Good San Diego Pick and those jerseys are sweet

TonyGfortheTD

01-25-2009, 11:33 PM

Best Chiefs mock I have seen yet.

giantsfan

01-26-2009, 01:24 AM

I do love me some DHB, especially with Sintim off the board.

Ho0k Em'

01-26-2009, 03:37 AM

The Chiefs drop from 3 to 19 and basically get a 2nd, 3rd, and a 5th. No thanks.

Basileus777

01-26-2009, 08:14 PM

You must really hate the Chiefs.

andyjo672

01-26-2009, 10:07 PM

We don't know if he is yet that's the point im making. Your still not listening so your hopeless.

Your also hopeless. If Shaun Hill started the whole year his record would be better.

*you're* not *your*...a combination of you are, as in "you are hopeless" BTW, its a mock draft, its based purely upon his opinion of needs and what he feels fills those needs. Your point has been made, you disagree with the pick, we can move on now.

RJS113

01-26-2009, 10:16 PM

GREAT Bucs pick. I'd be willing to give up the 1st, 2nd, and 5th picks for Sanchez.

Menardo75

01-26-2009, 11:05 PM

*you're* not *your*...a combination of you are, as in "you are hopeless" BTW, its a mock draft, its based purely upon his opinion of needs and what he feels fills those needs. Your point has been made, you disagree with the pick, we can move on now.

I'm well aware thanks sorry if I miss a few things in a string of 11 posts. It would just be nice if for once someone that was going to argue with me about something, actually presented facts to support it that's all i'm saying. I actually was done posting in this thread until you decided to chip in, so you have no one to blame but yourself for this.

Niners_2152

01-27-2009, 03:38 PM

Nice work on the jerseys even if some people don't like your mock. I don't know if I agree with trading up for Stafford but I've seen worse. Some guy from like yahoo or something had the 9ers taking Freeman at 10.

OSUGiants17

01-27-2009, 07:15 PM

Love, Love, Love Dhb

Seasonticketholder

01-28-2009, 09:22 AM

GREAT PICK for the Saints!!!!

TitansFTW

01-29-2009, 04:16 AM

I can live with our pick at 30 =)

Nice touch with the Jerseys. That was very cool. Kudos for the jerseys. I'm sure that took alot of work to make sure the draftees did not get a duplicate number ^^

twista6002

01-30-2009, 07:53 PM

Good Eagles draft