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01-25-2009, 06:23 PM

Which player has the worst game next sunday.

I will go with Big Ben. sorry thats just my oppinion steeler fans dont eat me alive. If i was to go with a Cards player it would be Edge

Loggerhead

01-25-2009, 06:25 PM

Roderick Hood

SeanTaylorRIP

01-25-2009, 06:27 PM

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01-25-2009, 06:34 PM

James Harrison I think will make the least impact of the Steelers linebackers even though he's the top defender in the league, or at least the coaches and media thought so. I also think Boldin will be a non factor and Fitz will just have a minimal game. I think Steve Breaston is going to do huge damage and have 10+ catches.

I agree with the Harrison Fitz and Breaton parts but Boldin will have a big game as well with all the attention on Fitz. Breaston will have around 10 catches and Boldin will have about 8 with atleast 1 td

tjsunstein

01-25-2009, 06:36 PM

Santonio Holmes

BeerBaron

01-25-2009, 06:49 PM

I'm going with Edge. I feel like the Steelers will collapse what little run game the Cards have had going and force the game into Warner's hands, for better or for worse.

SeanTaylorRIP

01-25-2009, 06:55 PM

I'm going with Edge. I feel like the Steelers will collapse what little run game the Cards have had going and force the game into Warner's hands, for better or for worse.

I think Edge will take Edge out of the game. I think Hightower is the only back on the Cards who remotely has a chance to be productive as he's not afraid to take it to the Steelers and will run his hardest until someone gets knocked out, even if it's himself.

BeerBaron

01-25-2009, 06:57 PM

I think Edge will take Edge out of the game. I think Hightower is the only back on the Cards who remotely has a chance to be productive as he's not afraid to take it to the Steelers and will run his hardest until someone gets knocked out, even if it's himself.

Well, either way it works, I'll be surprised if Edge does much of anything.

gsorace

01-25-2009, 07:00 PM

Who ever is covering Larry Fitzgerald

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01-25-2009, 07:06 PM

Who ever is covering Larry Fitzgerald

LOL there gonna have a good 3 people on him so i dont think he does much more then average. Boldin and Breaston will shine. I mean come on whos going to be covering Boldin? Townsend and Clark over the top??? haha please. and I would love to see Clark try and put a hit on Boldin. Clark will break into little pieces. And i dont even know who is going 2 be on Breaston so there you go.

Jakey

01-25-2009, 07:17 PM

The Dallas Cowboys/

EDIT: Oooops didnt realise you meant which player!?!

TACKLE

01-25-2009, 07:17 PM

Edge/Hightower

Shane P. Hallam

01-25-2009, 07:20 PM

LOL there gonna have a good 3 people on him so i dont think he does much more then average. Boldin and Breaston will shine. I mean come on whos going to be covering Boldin? Townsend and Clark over the top??? haha please. and I would love to see Clark try and put a hit on Boldin. Clark will break into little pieces. And i dont even know who is going 2 be on Breaston so there you go.

Nope, we are single covering Fitz with Ike Taylor and rotating over Ryan Clark to his side.

BeerBaron

01-25-2009, 07:29 PM

Nope, we are single covering Fitz with Ike Taylor and rotating over Ryan Clark to his side.

Better hope the pressure reach Warner hard and fast then.

When you have a receiver as talented as Fitz playing as hot as he is right now, no one corner can completely shut him down.

BmoreBlackByrdz

01-25-2009, 07:32 PM

Boldin is gonna have a huge game, if not him, then Breaston. The Cards only objective on offense should be protect Warner. Protect him, and sooner or later someone will get open. you most likely won't be able to run the ball whatsoever so I really see no point in trying that. They should come out passing, and that should, in time wear that Steeler D down.

Shane P. Hallam

01-25-2009, 07:34 PM

Better hope the pressure reach Warner hard and fast then.

When you have a receiver as talented as Fitz playing as hot as he is right now, no one corner can completely shut him down.

Steelers are going to start with a 4 person rush and gauge its effectiveness before increasing. It may work, Ike has played well, and Clark will add another layer deep against Fitz. It will still allow Polamalu to make big plays.

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01-25-2009, 07:48 PM

Nope, we are single covering Fitz with Ike Taylor and rotating over Ryan Clark to his side.

Haha well Townsend already said they will have 2 men on him at all times which will open Bolden and Breaston up.

P-L

01-25-2009, 08:36 PM

Didn't Ben have one of the worst Super Bowl performances by a winning quarterback last time? It's not out of the realm of possibility.

Xiomera

01-25-2009, 08:42 PM

I'll say Neil Rackers misses a couple costly field goals.

Giantsfan1080

01-25-2009, 09:16 PM

Didn't Ben have one of the worst Super Bowl performances by a winning quarterback last time? It's not out of the realm of possibility.

He had a 22.3 QB rating I believe.

tjsunstein

01-25-2009, 09:19 PM

Edge/Hightower

For them to be a no show, you had to be expecting them to show up. I didn't think the Cardinals will run the ball effeciently in the first place. That's why I didn't put Edge or Hightower.

TheBuffaloBills

01-25-2009, 09:29 PM

I will go Kurt Warner. I predict 1 pick and a costly fumble.

Nitschke-Hawk

01-25-2009, 09:54 PM

Steelers are going to start with a 4 person rush and gauge its effectiveness before increasing. It may work, Ike has played well, and Clark will add another layer deep against Fitz. It will still allow Polamalu to make big plays.

Have you been in the defensive meetings?

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01-25-2009, 10:04 PM

All I know is that the steelers secondary is just not good enough to cover the best receving core in the nfl. Look what they did to the Eagles (whos secondary is much better) and that was with an injured Bolden. Steelers best chance is to put more preasure on Warner then ever before make him lose the game.

skinzzfan25

01-25-2009, 10:18 PM

Ike Taylor will get burnt badly.

jetvilma51

01-25-2009, 10:22 PM

Steelers best chance is to put more preasure on Warner then ever before make him lose the game.

you also cant forget, Warner is one of the better QBs in the NFL to handle the ball with alot of pressure

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01-25-2009, 10:38 PM

you also cant forget, Warner is one of the better QBs in the NFL to handle the ball with alot of pressure

But he is also known to make a lot of mistakes. Do you remember what happened when he played out jets this year. He fumbled 4 times and threw 3 picks.

JonasBlane

01-26-2009, 04:32 AM

Edge and Hightower.... On the Steelers, I expect Hines Ward to be quiet, and for Holmes, and wait for it, Sweed to have good games.

Gay Ork Wang

01-26-2009, 06:27 AM

John Elway yea id think its Willie Parker. Mewelde Moore for MVP

Saints-Tigers

01-26-2009, 08:10 AM

Kurt warner goes down with a hand injury, and Matt Leinart saves the day.

Sniper

01-26-2009, 08:12 AM

Have you been in the defensive meetings?

You only need four if you're bringing LaMarr Woodley every play.

ironman4579

01-26-2009, 08:22 AM

You only need four if you're bringing LaMarr Woodley every play.

What do you mean four? With Woodley, one is enough.

Sniper

01-26-2009, 08:23 AM

What do you mean four? With Woodley, one is enough.

This is correct. I apologize for my egregious mistake.

Hines

01-26-2009, 08:23 AM

Ike Taylor will get burnt badly.

I don't agree with this. He does very, very well against elite recievers. He has handled Andre Johnson and Randy Moss this year and pretty much contained them. I know Andre had over 100 yards with like 10 catches and a touchdown, but most of those yards came on his touchdown and it was in garbage time. Ike Taylor will be fine.

My guess is the Cardinals offensive line. Look at the Patriots last year, nuff said.

Sniper

01-26-2009, 08:26 AM

You know who DOESN'T ever have bad games? This guy...

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/35/357437.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b243/michiganboy2412/woodley-lombardi.jpg

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bigbluedefense

01-26-2009, 08:58 AM

Edge and Fitz

The Steelers eat RBs for breakfast, and that sick sick defense (i can't emphasize enough how much i love that defense) will force Kurt to go to Breaston.

Saints-Tigers

01-26-2009, 09:08 AM

I don't agree with this. He does very, very well against elite recievers. He has handled Andre Johnson and Randy Moss this year and pretty much contained them. I know Andre had over 100 yards with like 10 catches and a touchdown, but

Lol, I thought this was pretty funny, true or not.

Mr. Stiller

01-26-2009, 09:17 AM

Lol, I thought this was pretty funny, true or not.

Ike Taylor has shut down Numerous "Great" WR's when we play high powered offenses.

I'm sure he'll give up 10 or so catches to Fitz, but it'll be small stuff.

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01-26-2009, 11:23 AM

Ike Taylor will not hold Fitz thats why they are going 2 double team him every play. But you cant double team 2 WRs and thats why Boldin is going 2 shine. Same for Breaston and as for the cards running game I think Hightower will have a decent game

captainjack27

01-26-2009, 11:36 AM

Who ever is covering Larry Fitzgerald

Ike Taylor has covered the likes of Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson, T.J Houszmanzadeh, Reggie Wayne...and has given up just two tds. I think he can do a fine job on fitzgerald. Not saying he won't be tested, Fitzy is one of the best.

Saints-Tigers

01-26-2009, 11:41 AM

Ike Taylor has shut down Numerous "Great" WR's when we play high powered offenses.

I'm sure he'll give up 10 or so catches to Fitz, but it'll be small stuff.

Not disputing that, just the whole post is funny. It's like:

"Well our defensive always shuts down Adrian Peterson, I know he had 173 yards and two touchdowns but..."

Hines

01-26-2009, 11:44 AM

Not disputing that, just the whole post is funny. It's like:

"Well our defensive always shuts down Adrian Peterson, I know he had 173 yards and two touchdowns but..."

Most of AJ's catches were short. I will give Fitz short routes all day.

bantx

01-26-2009, 11:51 AM

short routes that turn into big plays if thats what you mean

Mr. Stiller

01-26-2009, 01:27 PM

short routes that turn into big plays if thats what you mean

Last time Fitz went 10 for 120 and this defense is better.

Sniper

01-26-2009, 01:29 PM

Last time Fitz went 10 for 120 and this defense is better.

10 for 120 is abusing a defense.

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01-26-2009, 02:44 PM

Last time Fitz went 10 for 120 and this defense is better.

Well thats not good at all and I hate 2 break it 2 you but Fitz has also improved.

OSUGiants17

01-27-2009, 07:34 PM

Heath Miller won't have a single catch, you can qoute me on that. Breaston will have MONSTER game, qoute me on that too if you want.

619

01-27-2009, 07:44 PM

Ike Taylor has covered the likes of Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson, T.J Houszmanzadeh, Reggie Wayne...and has given up just two tds. I think he can do a fine job on fitzgerald. Not saying he won't be tested, Fitzy is one of the best.

Yeah, they're not Fitz. At least we're understood there.

Mr. Stiller

01-27-2009, 09:10 PM

Heath Miller won't have a single catch, you can qoute me on that. Breaston will have MONSTER game, qoute me on that too if you want.

You don't think Heath Miller will receive one ball? And that Breaston will kill?

Any reasons to arrive at this conclusion?

Mr. Stiller

01-27-2009, 09:10 PM

10 for 120 is abusing a defense.

Really?

When you're playing deep to not let the deep ball?

Do you know how the Steelers defense works?

Fitz is going to get his catches, the only thing you can do is limit those to small amounts.

We kept him out of the endzone.

Some other points to add:

Holmes went 6 for 128 and 2 TD's.

Fitz:

First attempt: 12 yards
2nd attempt: 20 yards, Fumbled away
3rd attempt: Drop
4th attempt: 6 yards
5th attempt: 12 yards
6th attempt: 4 yards
7th attempt: 9 yards
8th attempt: 9 yards
9th attempt: 6 yards
10th attempt: 4 yards
11th attempt: 34 Yards
12th attempt: illegal man downfield

if thats all Larry Fitz does against us, I'll take it. he took what we gave him minus the 34 yarder and 20 yarder.

Again, We're a bend not break defense, we'll allow the short and underneath stuff but we design to not give up the big plays.

So, Fitz will get his 10ish catches, but if we dont' give him any TD's and give up 120 yards or less it's a success in my books.

skinzzfan25

01-27-2009, 09:13 PM

Really?

When you're playing deep to not let the deep ball?

Do you know how the Steelers defense works?

10 for 120 regardless of how he got it is a pretty good whippin.

Mr. Stiller

01-27-2009, 09:19 PM

Well thats not good at all and I hate 2 break it 2 you but Fitz has also improved.

I'd disagree. Holding the best WR in the game out of the endzone? And allowing him the small stuff save 2 plays.... I'll take it.

He's going to make his catches and get his yards. Keeping him out of the endzone and not letting him move the chains all game is the key. We did it last time.

I know Fitz has improved. Arizona has improved I'm not downplaying it.

But, they are still only 2-5 against top 10 defenses.

Mr. Stiller

01-27-2009, 09:21 PM

10 for 120 regardless of how he got it is a pretty good whippin.

Is this another "Stats tell all" argument? 10 for 120 is a good game, but he wasn't in the endzone and we played the deep ball forcing them to play short.. we had a game defense to let him make plays 12 or shorter..

He did.

Again, he's going to get 8-12 catches, the best you can do is limit the yards and TD's. Which, they did.

619

01-27-2009, 09:23 PM

I'd disagree. Holding the best WR in the game out of the endzone? And allowing him the small stuff save 2 plays.... I'll take it.

He's going to make his catches and get his yards. Keeping him out of the endzone and not letting him move the chains all game is the key. We did it last time.

I know Fitz has improved. Arizona has improved I'm not downplaying it.

But, they are still only 2-5 against top 10 defenses.

Stats at this time of year are meaningless. I also think your offense will be more of a key to winning this weekend depending on which Arizona defense shows up as well.

Mr. Stiller

01-27-2009, 09:26 PM

Stats at this time of year are meaningless. I also think your offense will be more of a key to winning this weekend depending on which Arizona defense shows up as well.

I think the game will be more dependant on Pitt's offense vs. Zona's Defense.

Zona's offense and Pitts defense could both make some plays... it's just who steps on while those 2 are on the bench that will win the game in my opinion.

And I'm just curious if Holmes, Sweed make some plays against that secondary.