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JETS5128
01-27-2009, 10:53 PM
can anyone try and help me in graphing a polar graph? IF someone just PM's me this thread can be locked. This is urgent and any help will receive major +rep
awfullyquiet
01-27-2009, 10:55 PM
can anyone try and help me in graphing a polar graph? IF someone just PM's me this thread can be locked. This is urgent and any help will receive major +rep
what are you graphing? what function are you using? what class?
JETS5128
01-27-2009, 11:00 PM
It's for pre-calculus. I have to graph r/theta=12
awfullyquiet
01-27-2009, 11:09 PM
It's for pre-calculus. I have to graph r/theta=12
which is 12theta = r
or the radius = 12 times the degree. i think.
is that the right question for real?
JETS5128
01-27-2009, 11:14 PM
That's what i did, but isn't 12theta just a diagonal line? How can you graph a diagonal line on polar paper?
The Unseen
01-27-2009, 11:17 PM
It's not a diagonal line at all. r = theta is a spiral. theta*12 would probably be a pretty zany spiral.
awfullyquiet
01-27-2009, 11:17 PM
That's what i did, but isn't 12theta just a diagonal line? How can you graph a diagonal line on polar paper?
it's not. it's a spiral.
you know the spiral of archamedies? function of theta = theta? (the polar equivalent to x = y (fyi))
CashmoneyDrew
01-27-2009, 11:18 PM
Math sucks. You guys might as well be speaking Mandarin right now. So glad I got done with math a couple of years ago.
awfullyquiet
01-27-2009, 11:18 PM
It's not a diagonal line at all. r = theta is a spiral. theta*12 would probably be a pretty zany spiral.
zing. zoom. man, i miss the days when math was actually easy.
JETS5128
01-27-2009, 11:18 PM
your right, and the spiral is ****** HUGE
JETS5128
01-27-2009, 11:22 PM
CAn anyone help me on how to graph it now?
The Unseen
01-27-2009, 11:23 PM
it's not. it's a spiral.
you know the spiral of archamedies? function of theta = theta? (the polar equivalent to x = y (fyi))
I think I know what you mean by "polar equivalent," but not to confuse JETS here, r = theta is not the polar equivalent of the xy coordinate line x = y. It's sin(theta) = cos(theta).
awfullyquiet
01-27-2009, 11:26 PM
I think I know what you mean by "polar equivalent," but not to confuse JETS here, r = theta is not the polar equivalent of the xy coordinate line x = y. It's sin(theta) = cos(theta).
true, but as far as the most basic function you could acquire in either coordinate system, they're 'equivalent' in concept not in actual form.
awfullyquiet
01-27-2009, 11:27 PM
CAn anyone help me on how to graph it now?
change your scale. don't go by 1's, go by 10's or better yet let each tick = 120, so for every 10* you move 1 tick.
is that confusing?
JETS5128
01-27-2009, 11:28 PM
Can anyone help me on how to graph it now?
Not trying too be annoying, but time is of the essence here
The Unseen
01-27-2009, 11:30 PM
CAn anyone help me on how to graph it now?
when r = theta, that means the distance a point is from the center (or pole or whatever) is equal to the angle of the point. r = 12*theta means that the distance from the center equals twelve times the angle of the point. So your first point would be (0,0), your second point would be (1, 12), and so on. The problem is that the angles are in terms of pi, with each revolution around the center being 2pi. That means that the angle would be 6/pi, which you would have to estimate.
Basically, your teacher's a prick.
JETS5128
01-27-2009, 11:31 PM
change your scale. don't go by 1's, go by 10's or better yet let each tick = 120, so for every 10* you move 1 tick.
is that confusing?
I'm supposed to graph each point from 0 to 360, in increments of 15 degrees. But how can i graph the point theta=15, r=180 on polar paper?
The Unseen
01-27-2009, 11:31 PM
Wait, I'm assuming that you're drawing this. Is that correct?
JETS5128
01-27-2009, 11:32 PM
Wait, I'm assuming that you're drawing this. Is that correct?
Yes, on polar paper
awfullyquiet
01-27-2009, 11:34 PM
I'm supposed to graph each point from 0 to 360, in increments of 15 degrees. But how can i graph the point theta=15, r=180 on polar paper?
to quote basic engineering 101.
engineers choose the coordinate plane and scale. they also do it to specification.
what does your graph paper look like? bullseyes or a regular cartesian coordinate system?
JETS5128
01-27-2009, 11:35 PM
http://www.exo.net/~pauld/activities/polar_graph.gif
awfullyquiet
01-27-2009, 11:40 PM
http://www.exo.net/~pauld/activities/polar_graph.gif
bitchin.
each one of those circles do NOT equal 1. they equal 60. in distance.
so. for every 5 degrees, you move out one concentric circle (which the scale is 1r=60? i forget). meaning at 15 degrees, you'd be moved out 180, or three concentric circles. which rtheta = 15*12 (or 180)
when you move out to 30 degrees, it'd be 30*12 or 360, which would be six concentric circles.
just make sure you put on the graph that you have changed the scale.
The Unseen
01-27-2009, 11:42 PM
bitchin.
each one of those circles do NOT equal 1. they equal 60. in distance.
so. for every 5 degrees, you move out one concentric circle (which the scale is 1r=60? i forget). meaning at 15 degrees, you'd be moved out 180, or three concentric circles. which rtheta = 15*12 (or 180)
when you move out to 30 degrees, it'd be 30*12 or 360, which would be six concentric circles.
just make sure you put on the graph that you have changed the scale.
this. my suggestion is way wrong.
JETS5128
01-27-2009, 11:42 PM
You guys are savior's, i'll rep you more once i can
Menardo75
01-27-2009, 11:43 PM
I hope I never do this.
Brent
01-28-2009, 12:34 AM
I hope I never do this.
Pre-Cal? You probably will, whether it be college or HS.
Menardo75
01-28-2009, 12:37 AM
Pre-Cal? You probably will, whether it be college or HS.
Well good-bye diploma.
CashmoneyDrew
01-28-2009, 12:39 AM
Well good-bye diploma.
Pre-cal/trig isn't too bad. I'm abysmal at all things math and I made it out with a B. I didn't have an easy teacher either.
JeffSamardzijaIRISH
01-28-2009, 12:59 AM
Your graph should look something like this
http://education.yahoo.com/homework_help/math_help/solutionimages/miniprecalcgt/7/1/1/miniprecalcgt_7_1_1_7_60/f-565-13-1.gif
so you get r=12theta. so radius increases with the angle. graphing polar coords you use (r, theta) where r is the radius and theta is the angle. so in this case substitute 12theta for r and get (12theta, theta).
Menardo75
01-28-2009, 01:39 AM
Pre-cal/trig isn't too bad. I'm abysmal at all things math and I made it out with a B. I didn't have an easy teacher either.
I hope your right.
yo123
01-28-2009, 01:46 AM
Well good-bye diploma.
I took trig/precalc last year and I never did this stuff. The class did suck though, then again math isn't really my thing.
themaninblack
01-28-2009, 02:24 AM
I have to take precalc this summer and I'm already hating it. It's not that I'm not good at math, its just that I don't ******* care.
CJSchneider
01-28-2009, 06:38 AM
This is why I am an English teacher.
The Unseen
01-28-2009, 08:11 AM
I found Pre-Calc enjoyable. I'm not a "math guy," meaning that I am not planning to have a career in something math-related, but I do like math overall. To each his own, I guess.
TitleTown088
01-28-2009, 11:53 AM
I hate math. Prob why I'm a history major.
When life gives you lemons, say **** it and bail.
MetSox17
01-28-2009, 11:54 AM
I hate math. Prob why I'm a history major.
When life gives you lemons, say **** it and bail.
Well maybe life gave you history lemons.
CashmoneyDrew
01-28-2009, 12:36 PM
In high school I took Algebra 1 (A), Geometry (B), Algebra 2 (F), Pre-Cal/Trig (B).
As you can see, my Algebra 2 teacher was a complete *****. Made an A in summer school.
Gay Ork Wang
01-28-2009, 12:41 PM
Math is awesome.
Say yes to the asians are good at math stereotype! first one to answer = Azn
iowatreat54
01-28-2009, 12:45 PM
http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/song-chart-memes-geometry.gif
Pretty much substitute any math class after 3rd grade.
The Unseen
01-28-2009, 12:47 PM
http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/song-chart-memes-geometry.gif
Pretty much substitute any math class after 3rd grade.
haters just keep hatin'
Staubach12
01-28-2009, 12:56 PM
when r = theta, that means the distance a point is from the center (or pole or whatever) is equal to the angle of the point. r = 12*theta means that the distance from the center equals twelve times the angle of the point. So your first point would be (0,0), your second point would be (1, 12), and so on. The problem is that the angles are in terms of pi, with each revolution around the center being 2pi. That means that the angle would be 6/pi, which you would have to estimate.
http://www.motifake.com/demotivational-poster/0803/suicide-baby-demotivational-poster-1205683713.jpg
Gay Ork Wang
01-28-2009, 01:04 PM
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/628/1220475452838wh1.jpg
The Unseen
01-28-2009, 03:40 PM
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/628/1220475452838wh1.jpg
You probably know this already, but...
1. That's algebra
2. Of course that's wrong. You're dividing by zero when you divide out (a-b), which is a no-no.
Gay Ork Wang
01-28-2009, 04:48 PM
You probably know this already, but...
1. That's algebra
2. Of course that's wrong. You're dividing by zero when you divide out (a-b), which is a no-no.
i know both, i mean i am asian :D
draftguru151
01-28-2009, 04:55 PM
I'm an engineering major and I think polar sucks.
AQ, write me a mathcad code for bisection to find the roots of tan(x)-3.5/x.
UKfan
01-28-2009, 05:04 PM
So many bad memories from my Maths degree... :(
Damix
01-28-2009, 05:12 PM
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/11th_grade.png
Menardo75
01-28-2009, 05:17 PM
Math should really be done after Geometry, your never going to use any of that other ****.
The Unseen
01-28-2009, 08:05 PM
Math should really be done after Geometry, your never going to use any of that other ****.
Calculus is probably more useful than geometry.
Gay Ork Wang
02-12-2009, 05:02 PM
I am just gonna bump this:
Boolean Algebra, if anyone can shot me the answer with like boolean Algebra the Xs and so on, id be very thankful. i got the answer, but i have a mistake in my calculations:
There are three men A,B, C. Everyone has a different hair color, one has blond, one brown and one has black hair. They also have different beards. One has a goatee, one has a whisker and one has a moustache.
1)Person C neither has black hair nor does he have a whisker.
2) The man with blond hair is neither B nor does he have a moustache
3)in case the man with the moustache is B or C, then the man with black hair has a goatee
4) in case B has black hair, the man with brown hair doesnt have a goatee.
How do A,B,C look like?
Malaka
02-12-2009, 05:18 PM
In high school I took Algebra 1 (A), Geometry (B), Algebra 2 (F), Pre-Cal/Trig (B).
As you can see, my Algebra 2 teacher was a complete *****. Made an A in summer school.
lol same here Algebra 1 B Algebra 2 1st quarter C 2nd quarter D 3rd quarter F
My algebra 2 teacher is not terrible but is very boring, and I mean just looks at the board and talks to himself for 2 hours, it also doesn't help I have skipped that class 3/4 times, well I am improving from a 33 to a 52 :D
I have not taken Geometry or Pre-Cal since I am a freshman. But man I hate math with a passion, same with Chemistry, anything with numbers = FAIL
Gay Ork Wang
02-12-2009, 05:20 PM
I am just gonna bump this:
Boolean Algebra, if anyone can shot me the answer with like boolean Algebra the Xs and so on, id be very thankful. i got the answer, but i have a mistake in my calculations:
There are three men A,B, C. Everyone has a different hair color, one has blond, one brown and one has black hair. They also have different beards. One has a goatee, one has a whisker and one has a moustache.
1)Person C neither has black hair nor does he have a whisker.
2) The man with blond hair is neither B nor does he have a moustache
3)in case the man with the moustache is B or C, then the man with black hair has a goatee
4) in case B has black hair, the man with brown hair doesnt have a goatee.
How do A,B,C look like?
dont let this fall malaka u fool!
VoteLynnSwan
02-12-2009, 05:20 PM
I'm an engineering major and I think polar sucks.
AQ, write me a mathcad code for bisection to find the roots of tan(x)-3.5/x.
i don't know this mathcad that you speak of... but matlab is the program we used to do this type of stuff... yea, programming blows, and numerical methods are probably the lamest thing every invented.
Damix
02-12-2009, 05:38 PM
i don't know this mathcad that you speak of... but matlab is the program we used to do this type of stuff... yea, programming blows, and numerical methods are probably the lamest thing every invented.
Programming does not blow, thank you very much!
draftguru151
02-12-2009, 05:39 PM
i don't know this mathcad that you speak of... but matlab is the program we used to do this type of stuff... yea, programming blows, and numerical methods are probably the lamest thing every invented.
This class is horrendous.
And yes it does damix.
bored of education
02-12-2009, 05:45 PM
Programming does not blow, thank you very much!
The only programming you do is blowing up your blow up doll Rita!
VoteLynnSwan
02-12-2009, 06:08 PM
Programming does not blow, thank you very much!
if i wanted to do programming i would have been a computer engineer or a software engineer. Hell, even an electrical engineer. I picked mechanical engineering because i didn't think i'd have to deal with bull **** like that.
Gay Ork Wang
02-12-2009, 06:13 PM
thanks for ur help
draftguru151
02-12-2009, 06:18 PM
You're welcome renji. :D
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