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etk
05-07-2009, 09:05 PM
When he was considered a better safety prospect, meaning once he was solidifide as a quarterback, Iowa didn't have a chance, we don't run that gimmick offense that he was very much suited for.

I'm right about 80% of the time.

Solidifide is a new one for me. Does that stand for 'bonafide solid'?

Can I see the data and research that led you to that number? Or are you just smashing keys and then saying "it will happen" or "I'm right" like you always do.

kwilk103
05-07-2009, 09:08 PM
wvu's top qb targets

1. mark leal---apparently he wanted to see where young went

2. jeremy johnson

ironman4579
05-07-2009, 09:10 PM
Solidifide is a new one for me. Does that stand for 'bonafide solid'?

Can I see the data and research that led you to that number? Or are you just smashing keys and then saying "it will happen" or "I'm right" like you always do.

I'd go with option #2.

kwilk103
05-07-2009, 09:57 PM
mark leal to vt

looks like its down to jeremy johnson, robert bolden (longshot), possibly try to get blake sims to decommitt from bama

BamaFalcon59
05-07-2009, 10:22 PM
Wow, what a recruiting flurry lately for VT.

Mark Shuman
Mark Leal
Ricardo Young
Caleb Farris
Derrick Hopkins
Tahrick Peak

And I'm probably missing someone.

JayP
05-07-2009, 11:21 PM
solidifide...I'm gonna figure out a way to slip that into my every day conversations...especially meetings at work.

In actual recruiting news, Chris Martin transferred to The Hun in New Jersey. Once I read that his coach went ballistic on him for committing to ND without giving USC any real consideration (Martin's coach is a USC fan), I knew the transfer was gonna happen sooner than later.

Race for the Heisman
05-07-2009, 11:25 PM
Come now, 'e' and 'd' are right next to each other on the qwerty layout and solidified is a legitimate word. I mean, Told makes himself a target enough as it is, do we really need to jump on something which is in all likelihood simply an honest mistake?

ToldLikeItIs
05-08-2009, 02:05 AM
I mixed up ied and ide..

I get 5 responses because of it?

That says a lot. haha.

iowatreat54
05-08-2009, 02:07 AM
Seriously, there's so many other things you can rip on, but you choose 2 letters right next to eachother? Weak...

Also, Derby is taking 2 of his 5 officials to Iowa and Florida, so at least we have that going for us. He is also checking out USC and UCLA on a trip out west, for Elite 11 I believe. Honestly, if I had to choose right now, he would be going to Florida. If somehow USC offered, they would be 1b. But right now, it seems like Florida and Iowa are the top.

ToldLikeItIs
05-08-2009, 02:10 AM
Derby is a Hawkeye..

Why would he take an official visit to Iowa? He lives down the street and has been here at least fifty times.

I own this board, obviously.

iowatreat54
05-08-2009, 02:14 AM
Derby is a Hawkeye..

Why would he take an official visit to Iowa? He lives down the street and has been here at least fifty times.

I own this board, obviously.

I only remain pessimistic so that if he commits, I will be that much happier in the end. The key to life is not having goals, that way you won't be disappointed.

Seriously though, I'm going to at least say Iowa and Florida are 1a and 1b right now. I feel like Derby is happy to have the attention of big programs, but I think he will hopefully recognize that Iowa will let him play wherever he wants. I mean, there is no way Florida or a USC, even though they say it, are willing to bring him in and let him play QB. Hopefully he recognizes that.

HindSight
05-08-2009, 08:17 AM
I think it's time to accept told as a gimmic user and just ignore it from now on.

Hines
05-08-2009, 08:43 AM
Derby is a Hawkeye..

Why would he take an official visit to Iowa? He lives down the street and has been here at least fifty times.

I own this board, obviously.

A lot of kids take official visits, but they don't go to the school. Penn State fans thought that Deion Walker was all Penn State because he took officials and all that junk, and he went to Notre Dame.

You do not own this board, I am sorry.

Sniper
05-08-2009, 08:48 AM
I'm right about 80% of the time.

No, you're not. You said you were right 15% of the time.

Sniper
05-08-2009, 09:21 AM
Wermers was included on my predict the class list, should we go over yours Sniper? I'm sure you've been wrong just as many times as I have.

What about the predict Michigan's record list for 08'?

Recruit predictions? I don"t make them. Try again. My Michigan prediction pales in comparison to John Clay.

EDIT- Re: Wermers. I distinctly remember you making the prediction that Wermers would be a Hawkeye roughly a month before NSD. Toldfail.

wicket
05-08-2009, 09:23 AM
I mixed up ied and ide..

I get 5 responses because of it?

That says a lot. haha.

For the sake of fairness I would like to stress the fact that Told is right about both the things I bolded here.

ToldLikeItIs
05-08-2009, 11:40 AM
It feels good, real good.

CroomDawgs
05-08-2009, 11:53 AM
A lot of kids take official visits, but they don't go to the school. Penn State fans thought that Deion Walker was all Penn State because he took officials and all that junk, and he went to Notre Dame.


How has Walker done so far at ND? He was one of my favorite prospects that year

Hines
05-08-2009, 12:46 PM
How has Walker done so far at ND? He was one of my favorite prospects that year

I don't think he played much as a freshman, ask wicket or another Notre Dame fan.

mat33
05-08-2009, 01:03 PM
How has Walker done so far at ND? He was one of my favorite prospects that year

Although Notre Dame does not officially red-shirt players, Walker red-shirted last year. He is competition for the 3rd receiver spot this year behind Floyd and Tate.

JoeyJr09
05-08-2009, 03:20 PM
Maybe we should start a separate thread to track Told Predictions (Hint Hint VLS) and have him try to bash us all there instead of bothering the real recruiting thread?

BPhilb
05-08-2009, 03:25 PM
Maybe we should start a separate thread to track Told Predictions (Hint Hint VLS) and have him try to bash us all there instead of bothering the real recruiting thread?


I would concur with that idea.

vatech=accdomination
05-08-2009, 03:59 PM
When he was considered a better safety prospect, meaning once he was solidifide as a quarterback, Iowa didn't have a chance, we don't run that gimmick offense that he was very much suited for.

I'm right about 80% of the time.


i think you multiplied that by 100 a few too many times.

VoteLynnSwan
05-08-2009, 04:20 PM
Maybe we should start a separate thread to track Told Predictions (Hint Hint VLS) and have him try to bash us all there instead of bothering the real recruiting thread?

well if i were to do that i'd definitely prefer it to be stickied so i wouldn't have to try and find it every time.

I'll just stick to keeping track, and post whenever something comes true or is proven false.

JoeyJr09
05-08-2009, 05:00 PM
well if i were to do that i'd definitely prefer it to be stickied so i wouldn't have to try and find it every time.

I'll just stick to keeping track, and post whenever something comes true or is proven false.

Any Mod care to sticky it for us?

Hokie_Pokie08
05-08-2009, 05:13 PM
wvu's top qb targets

1. mark leal---apparently he wanted to see where young went

2. jeremy johnson

Did Leal want to be a package deal with Young?

kwilk103
05-08-2009, 05:43 PM
Did Leal want to be a package deal with Young?

ha no idea

maybe he feels he will have a better chance at playing time at tech considering him and young will be on an even playing field??? cuz geno smith would have a year on him

BRAVEHEART
05-08-2009, 06:31 PM
2011 DL Anthony Johnson commits to Tennessee.
http://tennessee.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=79041

etk
05-08-2009, 09:34 PM
For the sake of fairness I would like to stress the fact that Told is right about both the things I bolded here.

Not at all.

There were 3 responses to his spelling mistake: me, JayP and Race for the Heisman.

1/2 is a good start for Told though.

It feels good, real good.

fail.

wicket
05-09-2009, 04:08 AM
2011 DL Anthony Johnson commits to Tennessee.
http://tennessee.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=79041

how is that even possible? He cant have an offer yet.

Sniper
05-09-2009, 08:57 AM
how is that even possible? He cant have an offer yet.

He can have a verbal offer.

Hines
05-09-2009, 09:22 AM
Wasn't yesterday the first day underclassman can recieve written offers? Or is it September 1st?

Sniper
05-09-2009, 09:31 AM
Wasn't yesterday the first day underclassman can recieve written offers? Or is it September 1st?

September 1st.

Hines
05-09-2009, 10:17 AM
Penn State '09 signee, Shawney Kersey, ran a 10.63 100 and a 21.97 200 at his latest track meet. Pretty fast times for a 6'2 guy.

Sniper
05-09-2009, 10:19 AM
Penn State '09 signee, Shawney Kersey, ran a 10.63 100 and a 21.97 200 at his latest track meet. Pretty fast times for a 6'2 guy.

Denard Robinson laughs at Shawney Kersey's slow times.

Hines
05-09-2009, 10:22 AM
Denard Robinson laughs at Shawney Kersey's slow times.

Devon Smith laughs at Denard Robinson's slow times.

Sniper
05-09-2009, 10:25 AM
Devon Smith laughs at Denard Robinson's slow times.

Hmmm....that's funny. It's funny because Denard Robinson runs a 10.28 100 at 6'0", 185 pounds. That 10.28 may or may not be faster than the speed of light. Back to the ponds, rookie.

P-L
05-09-2009, 11:00 AM
Yeah, as far as I know Devon Smith has yet to run a sub-10.40 in the 100. Denard has done that three times.

sbh15
05-09-2009, 11:51 AM
Jeff Demps makes a mockery of all of these people.

JoeyJr09
05-09-2009, 12:26 PM
Jeff Demps makes a mockery of all of these people.

He's almost had alot more training at a higher level.

ToldLikeItIs
05-09-2009, 03:21 PM
10.6 for 6'2 200+ is flying

Robinson is maybe a buck seventy five, 5'11 tops. Don't believe the hype, whiper.

MaxV
05-09-2009, 03:28 PM
If he was playing for Iowa he would 6'-4" 230.

Sniper
05-09-2009, 03:42 PM
If he was playing for Iowa he would 6'-4" 230.

With an 8.45 100.

Denard measured in at 6'0 at the Miami combine after his junior year.

I'm not saying I'm always right, far from it, but let us enjoy some Told brilliance gathered from the last twenty or so pages of "The Recruiting Thread". I'm sure there are plenty of other golden nuggets of info in there.

Aj Edds could go pro next year and be a first rounder as a JR.

Yeah I'm saying 9-3 at worst with 12-0 as a legit possibility. Why?

Our toughest games, Wisconsin and Penn State, are at home. We don't play Michigan or Ohio State. We travel to Pittsburgh, and I'm a little concerned about that one, but besides that all of our games are very winnable. Illinois should be a cake walk, regardless of location.

Soup may sign the best WR sign in the country this year.

(Reuben) Randles tape isn't impressive btw.

In all seriousness, good chance at top WR class.

From Creer to Scheelhaase

CashmoneyDrew
05-09-2009, 05:03 PM
2011 DL Anthony Johnson commits to Tennessee.
http://tennessee.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=79041

Mean lookin' dude.

JRTPlaya21
05-09-2009, 05:04 PM
Man he looks old.

CashmoneyDrew
05-09-2009, 05:06 PM
Man he looks old.

Greg Oden-esque.

BamaFalcon59
05-09-2009, 06:19 PM
A 5.27 40 yard dash and a 4.3 shuttle.

Doesn't make sense.

bearsfan_51
05-09-2009, 06:42 PM
Maybe we should start a separate thread to track Told Predictions (Hint Hint VLS) and have him try to bash us all there instead of bothering the real recruiting thread?
Told bashing is about 99.9% of the reason I visit this thread. The other 0.1% is the occasional Miami blowup when someone questions the fact that Miami will be National Champs in 2012, 2013, and 2014.

draftguru151
05-09-2009, 06:44 PM
You're gonna feel really stupid when that happens. :)

bearsfan_51
05-09-2009, 06:47 PM
Hey, I called it a fact.

MaxV
05-09-2009, 07:27 PM
Told bashing is about 99.9% of the reason I visit this thread. The other 0.1% is the occasional Miami blowup when someone questions the fact that Miami will be National Champs in 2012, 2013, and 2014.

Yeah, Miami (OH) will have MONSTER teams then. :)

JoeyJr09
05-10-2009, 10:38 AM
You forgot 2011

etk
05-10-2009, 11:18 AM
Told bashing is about 99.9% of the reason I visit this thread. The other 0.1% is the occasional Miami blowup when someone questions the fact that Miami will be National Champs in 2012, 2013, and 2014.

2012 might be a rebuilding year. 2010, 2011, 2013 & 2014 are safe bets though.

JRTPlaya21
05-10-2009, 11:56 AM
Mark Leal & Ricardo Young to VT

JoeyJr09
05-10-2009, 03:11 PM
Mark Leal & Ricardo Young to VT

3 pages late ;)

JRTPlaya21
05-10-2009, 04:17 PM
Naw more like two :)

OneToughGame
05-10-2009, 05:23 PM
Greg Oden-esque.
I think it's just that one photo, He looks a lot different in this one.
http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/ANTHONYJOHNSON2_22200.JPG

JFLO
05-10-2009, 09:06 PM
Speaking of Greg Oden, I heard an absolutely hilarious story about him at work today. I don't think too many have heard about it. It was about his only year at OSU, had me laughing for like 10 minutes.

sbh15
05-10-2009, 09:10 PM
Speaking of Greg Oden, I heard an absolutely hilarious story about him at work today. I don't think too many have heard about it. It was about his only year at OSU, had me laughing for like 10 minutes.

Cool story bro.

JFLO
05-10-2009, 09:12 PM
Cool story bro.

I would say it, but it consists of a certain part of the male anatomy, two beer cans and a trip to the hospital.

You do the math...

EDIT: Plus, I don't want to rag on Oden in "public"

If you want to hear it for any reason, just PM me...i guess

Hokie_Pokie08
05-10-2009, 10:50 PM
VA WR Justin Hunter commits to LSU. Very good pick up for them.

BamaFalcon59
05-10-2009, 11:14 PM
Damn, he will be a good one. Great athlete.

Thought we had a shot with Marcus Davis on the team and Lefante Thourogood (spelling!) being a big possibility next year.

JoeyJr09
05-11-2009, 07:39 AM
CB Darius Robinson from Georgia pretty much named Miami his leader. He's teammates with Michael Taylor who's another pretty big recruit for us.

We are hitting North FL and GA pretty hard this year as they are loaded at LB, CB and S which are our big needs.

Good pick off the WRs, RBs and OLs we need from a loaded South Florida class at those spots this year and should finish off with a real nice class.

Really working in our favor with UGA, FSU, UF and other SEC schools putting in all their time in South Florida trying to bang one of the zillion WRs, RBs and midget CBs South Florida has this year, we are able to go up in their area and target the ones we want.

etk
05-11-2009, 01:58 PM
Robinson and Taylor sound really excited about playing together in Miami. Are they top targets for us?

JoeyJr09
05-11-2009, 07:30 PM
Robinson and Taylor sound really excited about playing together in Miami. Are they top targets for us?

Taylor is most def a top target. I actually think our staff likes him more then Luc. Probably the number 2 LB on our board after Ogletree.

Robinson is a new name so it's hard to gauge but he's got the size for our system and seemingly could push his way up a very lackluster CB board ATM.

sbh15
05-11-2009, 08:04 PM
Florida recruiting remains awfully quiet... they guys I expected to commit have yet to do so, but they will.

Leon Orr picked up a 4 star rating. Just another great find by the staff. It looks like Rivals has their full rankings as a matter of fact. Michael McFarland picked up a 3 star ranking.

JoeyJr09
05-11-2009, 08:22 PM
Florida recruiting remains awfully quiet... they guys I expected to commit have yet to do so, but they will.

Leon Orr picked up a 4 star rating. Just another great find by the staff. It looks like Rivals has their full rankings as a matter of fact. Michael McFarland picked up a 3 star ranking.

If he wasn't going to UF then he wouldn't be rated a 4 star and wouldnt be a great find.

And what exactly do you consider quiet? Cause your class is gonna be full in about a month so you better enjoy the activity while it lasts.

I'm liking you getting on all these guys early. There's only about 4-5 that I'm even consider and you guys filling up is gonna make it that much easier on us.

sbh15
05-11-2009, 08:30 PM
If he wasn't going to UF then he wouldn't be rated a 4 star and wouldnt be a great find.

And what exactly do you consider quiet? Cause your class is gonna be full in about a month so you better enjoy the activity while it lasts.

I'm liking you getting on all these guys early. There's only about 4-5 that I'm even consider and you guys filling up is gonna make it that much easier on us.

I consider quiet being not much news lately, no big visitors, etc.

And seriously, if you're saying you would only take four or five of the kids Florida has, it's honestly funny. You don't think Urban knows what he's doing? He's recruited PERFECTLY for this team and system for the past couple of years, if he wants these 12 kids, I trust him.

fresssh
05-11-2009, 09:16 PM
Taylor is most def a top target. I actually think our staff likes him more then Luc. Probably the number 2 LB on our board after Ogletree.

Robinson is a new name so it's hard to gauge but he's got the size for our system and seemingly could push his way up a very lackluster CB board ATM.

Yea I always really liked Taylor. Hes got the quickness and swag. I wouldnt say they like him more then Luc, but if we can get Luc, Taylor, Cornelius, and Ogletree that would be perfect and its an IF.

Im still not crazy about our CB's but if we do get Dorsey that would be a huge start.

JoeyJr09
05-12-2009, 12:14 AM
I consider quiet being not much news lately, no big visitors, etc.

And seriously, if you're saying you would only take four or five of the kids Florida has, it's honestly funny. You don't think Urban knows what he's doing? He's recruited PERFECTLY for this team and system for the past couple of years, if he wants these 12 kids, I trust him.

I never said the kids weren't talented. I said I wouldnt take them. Frankly because they would suck for what we are trying to do. They are obviously good fits for you guys.

Example: Gideon Ajagbe. Would never play LB here because he's not instinctive enough and is too big to play safety. He would suck at Miami. He might be a decent OLB for you guys because your D doesn't feature the OLBs nearly much as ours does. Your puts the pressure on your DBs and DEs to come up with the plays. Ours puts the pressure on our DTs and LBs. You also have to gamble in Dade County to get a foot in the door where as we do not.

Off UF's current recruits I'd take Christian as a TE, Dowling as a S, Dorsey as a CB, Watkins as a CB and Elam. I have no idea where we'd play Elam but too much talent not to take him.

The rest, you can have. They either don't fit us, are overrated (Silberman better then Linder according to Rivals?? Please) or are at a spot where we have better targets (Orr at DT when we already have Chandler and Nix).

Sniper
05-12-2009, 06:48 AM
I consider quiet being not much news lately, no big visitors, etc.

And seriously, if you're saying you would only take four or five of the kids Florida has, it's honestly funny. You don't think Urban knows what he's doing? He's recruited PERFECTLY for this team and system for the past couple of years, if he wants these 12 kids, I trust him.

Pfft, of course Miami is better. Randy Shannon>Urban Meyer. 12-13>>>>83-17 with 2 national titles. Florida and Meyer=OVERRATED!

keylime_5
05-12-2009, 09:02 AM
Ohio State offered Christian Bryant (glenville DB). You can close the book on that one.
I wonder if they'll ever offer his new DB teammate.

Sniper
05-12-2009, 09:06 AM
Ohio State offered Christian Bryant (glenville DB). You can close the book on that one.
I wonder if they'll ever offer his new DB teammate.

You mean LaTwan Anderson?

keylime_5
05-12-2009, 09:19 AM
yeah. And there's another Cleveland guy who might or might not have an OSU offer now in WR Tyrone Williams...but he's not a Glenville guy, he's a Shaw guy I think.

Sniper
05-12-2009, 09:27 AM
yeah. And there's another Cleveland guy who might or might not have an OSU offer now in WR Tyrone Williams...but he's not a Glenville guy, he's a Shaw guy I think.

How come Anderson isn't raking in the offers? From my untrained eye, he looks ridiculously fast, hits hard, and can cover some ground.

keylime_5
05-12-2009, 09:32 AM
I heard something about grade questions possibly and/or that teams want to see him in camp this spring/summer before offering. Rumors about off-field questions too. He didn't leave Lakewood just for the hell of it I don't think, I think there was some incident.

tolnaballa
05-12-2009, 12:41 PM
BTW's Jose Jose to Tennessee

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/school?schoolId=2633&page=briefingroom&season=2010&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncf %2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fschool%3fschoolId%3d2633 %26page%3dbriefingroom%26season%3d2010

BigJohn98
05-12-2009, 12:46 PM
BTW's Jose Jose to Tennessee

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/school?schoolId=2633&page=briefingroom&season=2010&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncf %2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fschool%3fschoolId%3d2633 %26page%3dbriefingroom%26season%3d2010

No way. He was supposed to be a Miami lock.

Hines
05-12-2009, 12:49 PM
I heard something about grade questions possibly and/or that teams want to see him in camp this spring/summer before offering. Rumors about off-field questions too. He didn't leave Lakewood just for the hell of it I don't think, I think there was some incident.

I think he got into a verbal or physical fight with a teacher.

keylime_5
05-12-2009, 01:06 PM
yeah I think that was it. His dad wanted him at Glenville all along I think too, Ted Ginn keeps his kids out of trouble pretty well.

Also, Roderick Smith I heard got Michigan State and Michigan offers. Looks like the big offers are starting to come in for him, grades are clearing it sounds like. Reportedly OSU's staff thinks he's the top RB in the country.

BRAVEHEART
05-12-2009, 01:08 PM
No way. He was supposed to be a Miami lock.

Yeah, Kiff's doing a hell of a job down there.

draftguru151
05-12-2009, 01:12 PM
I'm pretty sure we're only taking 2 more OL and those spots are for Wilson and Linder. Jose wasn't that much of a target.

djp
05-12-2009, 01:31 PM
I'm pretty sure we're only taking 2 more OL and those spots are for Wilson and Linder. Jose wasn't that much of a target.

Yep, sometimes, fans will claim coaches backed off just because the kid didn't want to go there to try to save face, this one is actually true. Jose commented on his Facebook status on how Miami didn't want him, and every single person I've talked to about him has said Miami didn't offer and isn't planning on doing so.

He's not skilled at all, just a mountain of a man. Todd Chandler has lit his tits up at every single opportunity

kwilk103
05-12-2009, 02:40 PM
yeah. And there's another Cleveland guy who might or might not have an OSU offer now in WR Tyrone Williams...but he's not a Glenville guy, he's a Shaw guy I think.

stay away from latwan anderson...he really likes us, and i think we have a good shot

Dagagad
05-12-2009, 04:43 PM
Wow..this is weird. Was looking back at an old thread and came up with a great Joey quote from the 2006 thread.

I never said the kids weren't talented. I said I wouldnt take them. Frankly because they would suck for what we are trying to do. They are obviously good fits for you guys.

Example: Tim Tebow. Would never play QB here because he's not instinctive enough and lacks swagger. He would suck at Miami. He might be a decent QB for you guys because your O doesn't require that the QB be fantabulous and/or have swag. Your puts the pressure on your players to come up with the plays. Ours puts the pressure on our next crop of promising youngsters to suck it up in the ACC.

Off UF's current recruits I'd take Harvin as a WR(no gimmicky crap with him), Spikres as a DE(too far off our 200lb mlb template), and Carl Johnson as a kicker. He has swag for days and a mean right foot.


Interesting stuff from the archives there...


I read all these threads and I love your stuff Joey..but I thought God..two national championships. I don't even like Florida either.

Sniper
05-12-2009, 04:45 PM
Wow..this is weird. Was looking back at an old thread and came up with a great Joey quote from the 2006 thread.



Interesting stuff from the archives there...


I read all these threads and I love your stuff Joey..but I thought God..two national championships. I don't even like Florida either.

Link please? That's fantastic stuff.

keylime_5
05-12-2009, 04:56 PM
ya win some ya lose some i guess...

Dagagad
05-12-2009, 05:01 PM
Link please? That's fantastic stuff.


Ah, it was a joke. I have no idea if there is even a 2006 recruiting thread.

Probably should have made it clearer that it is a satire. It is based on a post he made on pg 113 this thread with added 'swagger' references just cos I think the word swagger is funny.

JoeyJr09
05-12-2009, 06:01 PM
Wow..this is weird. Was looking back at an old thread and came up with a great Joey quote from the 2006 thread.



Interesting stuff from the archives there...


I read all these threads and I love your stuff Joey..but I thought God..two national championships. I don't even like Florida either.

Forgive me for only wanting 5 (out of only 12) recruits from a team that runs a spread when we run a Pro-Set. Trey Burton, Michael McFarland, Ian Silberman in no way shape or form fit what Miami does on offense.

You telling me, you could stick a guy like Jeff Demps in Miami's backfield, pound him in the middle all game like we do and expect him to preform the same as he does in UFs spread? There's no way. Cooper has struggled doing that and Cooper is twice Demps size.

Why would Miami want Leon Orr when we have 2 kids that UF fans themselves would even admit they'd dump him to get?

Notice UF is going after smaller, fast backs like Mack Brown (5'11, 185) while we are passing on guys of similar size like Jahkari Gore (5'10, 175) in order to get a bigger back like Darion Hall (6'1, 200)

Sniper
05-12-2009, 06:06 PM
Ah, it was a joke. I have no idea if there is even a 2006 recruiting thread.

Probably should have made it clearer that it is a satire. It is based on a post he made on pg 113 this thread with added 'swagger' references just cos I think the word swagger is funny.

Oh damn. I wish it would have been legit.

JoeyJr09
05-12-2009, 07:05 PM
Fort Myers CB Jeremy Davis commits to the Canes.

I PHI over on Canesport has been all over that one for some time. Nice call by him. Not sure when Rivals will get Davis tape to rate him. I'm gonna check out his film later. I heard he's probably the best pure athlete our of the Cape Coral area this year but is pretty raw.

JoeyJr09
05-12-2009, 07:32 PM
Michigan guys should like this.

We have basically stopped recruiting former commit Quintin Dunbar. Heard he has UF in front with Michigan 2nd but UF is likely getting better guys at that spot leaving Dunbar all for you guys.

We are letting alot of BTW guys walk on us right now. Let Jose go (albeit for good reason, he sucks) but Dunbar was solid. Hopefully this doesn't get in the way of us landing the 2 BTW guys we really want in TE Lynden Trail and RB Eduardo Clements.

Sniper
05-12-2009, 07:42 PM
Michigan guys should like this.

We have basically stopped recruiting former commit Quintin Dunbar. Heard he has UF in front with Michigan 2nd but UF is likely getting better guys at that spot leaving Dunbar all for you guys.

Meh, don't really care. We've offered like a zillion other WRs.

bigbenn
05-12-2009, 08:01 PM
Fort Myers CB Jeremy Davis commits to the Canes.

I PHI over on Canesport has been all over that one for some time. Nice call by him. Not sure when Rivals will get Davis tape to rate him. I'm gonna check out his film later. I heard he's probably the best pure athlete our of the Cape Coral area this year but is pretty raw.

He's FAAAAST...really fast. That looks like a good pickup. As far as the Rivals thing, they'll probably just 'lose his tape' like they did Matt Milton's. He's a monster of a WR prospect who is woefully underrated at 3 stars (Even if it is a high 3 star). He's about just as good as Prater (And is faster and taller). If he played in Chicago he'd be top 250 minimum. It's cool though 'cause they'll both be at Illinois.:)

Dagagad
05-12-2009, 08:05 PM
Forgive me for only wanting 5 (out of only 12) recruits from a team that runs a spread when we run a Pro-Set.


You are forgiven sir. Now don't get me wrong, I was only poking a little fun at swagger U.

It seems I was correct in my example. Tebow skills would not be optimized by a pro style offense and hence would have been no use to Miami. Maybe as a full back?

jbeans187
05-12-2009, 08:39 PM
He's FAAAAST...really fast. That looks like a good pickup. As far as the Rivals thing, they'll probably just 'lose his tape' like they did Matt Milton's. He's a monster of a WR prospect who is woefully underrated at 3 stars (Even if it is a high 3 star). He's about just as good as Prater (And is faster and taller). If he played in Chicago he'd be top 250 minimum. It's cool though 'cause they'll both be at Illinois.:)

Is Milton an Illinois lock? I watched his tape and he has some wheels for being 6'5. Very good prospect. Some say Mizzou has a chance with him but i dont know too much, it seems early in the process for him.

JoeyJr09
05-12-2009, 09:28 PM
He's FAAAAST...really fast. That looks like a good pickup. As far as the Rivals thing, they'll probably just 'lose his tape' like they did Matt Milton's. He's a monster of a WR prospect who is woefully underrated at 3 stars (Even if it is a high 3 star). He's about just as good as Prater (And is faster and taller). If he played in Chicago he'd be top 250 minimum. It's cool though 'cause they'll both be at Illinois.:)

After seeing his tape. He should be rately fairly highly.

He certainly has speed to burn (reportedly a 4.3 40 but I don't put stock in HS times) as he runs past everyone in a pretty competitive part of the state. But what was most impressive to me was his hips and ability to keep his balance around contact.

I can see where he is raw tho, he played WR, RB and QB in a sort of Wildcat type offense last year and we are projecting him as a CB where he was only played in limited roles.

He has the physical ability tho and looks like a pretty solid pickup. His name always comes up with Spencer Boyd and Jaylen Watkins from that area so he has to have talent to be in that discussion.

I'm sure he'll probably be a 3* to start until the Rivals guys get to check him out at a camp of some sort.

Our Rivals guys also supposedly sent in a request to the national guys to re-check the rating on Michael Taylor. He reminds pretty much everyone of Sean Spence and should be rated much higher. But Sean started out as a 3* as well and worked his way up. Never did get rated as high was he deserved tho.

Hope we can land Taylor tho and it's looking more and more likely that we are able to pull both him and his teammate Robinson (who named us his leader).

JoeyJr09
05-12-2009, 09:30 PM
You are forgiven sir. Now don't get me wrong, I was only poking a little fun at swagger U.

It seems I was correct in my example. Tebow skills would not be optimized by a pro style offense and hence would have been no use to Miami. Maybe as a full back?

Tebow is a different case. Even miscast at Miami he would have been better then Kyle Wright and Robert Marve.

But do you really think Jeffery Demps or Cornelius Ingram would have fit in here the way they did at UF? No way.

JoeyJr09
05-12-2009, 09:34 PM
Meh, don't really care. We've offered like a zillion other WRs.

I was referring more to getting a foot in at BTW and Dade County in general then about Dunbar.

It's one thing to get Denard Robinson from Broward or other solid Florida kids like Smith or Hawthrone but going into Dade County and getting a kid that was committed to us is a big deal. Especially with everything thats going on at BTW.

Look at UF, they had to reach on Ajagbe from a horrible school like Ransom just to try to establish some sort of presense in Dade County. They tried for 3 years to do that.

For RR to come get a kid like Dunbar from BTW would be a pretty big eye opener.

JoeyJr09
05-12-2009, 09:36 PM
Rumors that WR James Louis has dropped UF for the same reasons about the spread offense that DJ Johnson did.

Louis is supposedly down to FSU, Miami, LSU, UGA and UNC now.

Dagagad
05-12-2009, 09:43 PM
Tebow is a different case. Even miscast at Miami he would have been better then Kyle Wright and Robert Marve.



Yea, you are right. I guess there is a level of talent that you just have to recruit regardless of system. The fun comes in when people disagree about whether a guy is at that level I suppose.

Do you think Miami are doing the right thing going pro style? It seems that the only team who is really successful in that mold are USC and they recruit an endless string of 5 star 6-4 220 lb QBs and average almost 4 stars a class.

There doesn't seem to be many guys in that mold in South Florida every year. Of course Miami are a national player and with a pro style offense, maybe could attract big time QB prospects from across the nation.

If I was the boss at Miami(and I would be a massive failure in that role for many reasons) I might try to go spread and take advantage of the inherent speed in the area. In fact a guy like Leach with a surrounding cast of top notch recruiters would be very interesting. But then I do love Leach. His system with the kind of talent in South Florida and a ball hawking defense(who would be playing with a lead all the time) would be interesting.

sbh15
05-12-2009, 09:44 PM
Rumors that WR James Louis has dropped UF for the same reasons about the spread offense that DJ Johnson did.

Louis is supposedly down to FSU, Miami, LSU, UGA and UNC now.

Just shows you the ignorance of some of these kids then...

Percy Harvin was drafted in the first BECAUSE of the spread. In a FSU style offense, he'd be a fast receiver. In Florida's offense, he's Reggie Bush.

BamaFalcon59
05-12-2009, 09:48 PM
Yeah.

I still think Louis stays in state, but his statement about the spread offense doesn't hurt our chances. That, an inexperienced wide receiver corp, and a couple teammates on VT may help our chances.

JoeyJr09
05-12-2009, 09:50 PM
Yea, you are right. I guess there is a level of talent that you just have to recruit regardless of system. The fun comes in when people disagree about whether a guy is at that level I suppose.

Do you think Miami are doing the right thing going pro style? It seems that the only team who is really successful in that mold are USC and they recruit an endless string of 5 star 6-4 220 lb QBs and average almost 4 stars a class.

There doesn't seem to be many guys in that mold in South Florida every year. Of course Miami are a national player and with a pro style offense, maybe could attract big time QB prospects from across the nation.

If I was the boss at Miami(and I would be a massive failure in that role for many reasons) I might try to go spread and take advantage of the inherent speed in the area. In fact a guy like Leach with a surrounding cast of top notch recruiters would be very interesting. But then I do love Leach. His system with the kind of talent in South Florida and a ball hawking defense(who would be playing with a lead all the time) would be interesting.

Pro Style is 100 percent the way to go for us.

USC isn't the only one thats had success with it. Our run in to our last NC has with a Pro Style. Justs because there's speed in our area doesn't mean we have to go spread. We've always had speed here and always done well. We just target the right guys. Speed works in any system.

JoeyJr09
05-12-2009, 09:54 PM
Just shows you the ignorance of some of these kids then...

Percy Harvin was drafted in the first BECAUSE of the spread. In a FSU style offense, he'd be a fast receiver. In Florida's offense, he's Reggie Bush.

Ur ignorant if you think Harvin was drafted because of the spread. Harvin was drafted because he's faster then everyone.

I think there is some truth in the statement about the spread tho. Don't get me wrong, NFL coaches aren't gonna knock you down because your in the spread, but I do think they give a little bump up the board to people that come from Pro Style. Look at all the guys USC gets drafted every year as an example.

Dagagad
05-12-2009, 10:08 PM
Pro Style is 100 percent the way to go for us.

USC isn't the only one thats had success with it. Our run in to our last NC has with a Pro Style. Justs because there's speed in our area doesn't mean we have to go spread. We've always had speed here and always done well. We just target the right guys. Speed works in any system.

100% seems a bit strong. You need a QB. Is Jacory that guy? Really you should be taking one prototypical QB every year like USC and Georgia do.

It seems like some teams stick to one system on offense, USC/Florida. And other teams mix it up a little depending on who they recruit, LSU/Texas. I prefer the later method, but either will work obviously.

bigbenn
05-12-2009, 11:23 PM
Is Milton an Illinois lock? I watched his tape and he has some wheels for being 6'5. Very good prospect. Some say Mizzou has a chance with him but i dont know too much, it seems early in the process for him.

After last season I'm kind of hestitant but I will say yes in this situation unless they bomb the season again (Highly doubt it). Tennessee is the main competition and they REALLY REALLY want Milton. I'm sure with that staff they aren't going down without a fight. Milton is a monster WR prospect with good speed at his size (Legit 4.58 speed) and is only going to get faster running track this spring. He also has a brother who runs track at LSU. Couple all this with his hands, work ethic, vertical (It's something in the high 30's/low 40's), and you have a special prospect on your hands.

JoeyJr09
05-12-2009, 11:44 PM
100% seems a bit strong. You need a QB. Is Jacory that guy? Really you should be taking one prototypical QB every year like USC and Georgia do.

It seems like some teams stick to one system on offense, USC/Florida. And other teams mix it up a little depending on who they recruit, LSU/Texas. I prefer the later method, but either will work obviously.

Why wouldn't Jacory be the guy?

He played pretty damn well as a true freshman last year and by all accounts has been better this spring. He is the Prototypical Pro Style QB.

Plus we have Taylor Cook who has tons of physical tools waiting behind Jacory. Cook is 6'7 and has a cannon for an arm. That screams Pro Style.

Our top target this year was Blake Bell who is a Pro Style QB and we are looking at other options like Brandon Hill who is a Pro Style QB.

Besides, why would we let the players dictate what we run? The players come and go every 4 years. It's better just to recruit the guys that fit us instead of changing what we are doing every other year.

Jonny
05-13-2009, 02:40 AM
Just shows you the ignorance of some of these kids then...

Percy Harvin was drafted in the first BECAUSE of the spread. In a FSU style offense, he'd be a fast receiver. In Florida's offense, he's Reggie Bush.

BS. He was drafted in spite of the spread.

Sniper
05-13-2009, 08:36 AM
I was referring more to getting a foot in at BTW and Dade County in general then about Dunbar.

It's one thing to get Denard Robinson from Broward or other solid Florida kids like Smith or Hawthrone but going into Dade County and getting a kid that was committed to us is a big deal. Especially with everything thats going on at BTW.

Look at UF, they had to reach on Ajagbe from a horrible school like Ransom just to try to establish some sort of presense in Dade County. They tried for 3 years to do that.

For RR to come get a kid like Dunbar from BTW would be a pretty big eye opener.

I didn't really think about it that way, ha.

What do you know about Marvin Robinson's cousin, T.C Robinson?

Sniper
05-13-2009, 08:38 AM
BS. He was drafted in spite of the spread.

Not at all. Florida's spread maximized Harvin's potential as a player while also hiding his deficiencies (he's a meh route-runner and has okay hands). Harvin was perfect for Florida's offense, and Florida's offense was perfect for him and got him to the next level.

Sniper
05-13-2009, 08:40 AM
Rumors that WR James Louis has dropped UF for the same reasons about the spread offense that DJ Johnson did.

Louis is supposedly down to FSU, Miami, LSU, UGA and UNC now.

These kids don't follow the NFL draft too closely then. And isn't LSU more of a spread team now?

HindSight
05-13-2009, 08:59 AM
Ur ignorant if you think Harvin was drafted because of the spread. Harvin was drafted because he's faster then everyone.

I think there is some truth in the statement about the spread tho. Don't get me wrong, NFL coaches aren't gonna knock you down because your in the spread, but I do think they give a little bump up the board to people that come from Pro Style. Look at all the guys USC gets drafted every year as an example.
Bingo. 100%.

Jonny
05-13-2009, 12:32 PM
The spread trend only really started recently. I think a lot of those guys are going to bust, and it'll start influencing recruiting even more. As it should.

sbh15
05-13-2009, 03:01 PM
BS. He was drafted in spite of the spread.

You must be kidding me... I'm not saying every kid who plays in the spread is helped, but certain ones are. Percy Harvin is honestly a poorer physical version of DHB. With the spread, he plays RB, WR, and showcases his explosiveness all over the field, versatility, etc.

Now, if Andre Johnson had went to a spread school, he would have been drafted in spite of the spread.

I agree that the spread generally won't help your draft status, but in Percy's case it did. It's because it's a unique case. Guys like James Louis are ideal for a spread, and it would show on the field.

JoeyJr09
05-13-2009, 03:18 PM
James Louis can fit in just about any system. He's pretty damn good.

Percy was certainly a great fit for the spread and it helped him tons but saying the spread enhanced his value is crazy. His value was that high because of his physical ability. If he came from a Pro-Style system like USC where there was more development of his hands and route running, you don't think he would have gone higher?

Teams can get creative with players if they have physical ability like Harvin. That's not a problem. What is a problem is bad route running and poor hands.

Teams don't sit a draft board and knock kids down because the teams didn't use them properly. The do knock them down for bad route running and that is often a big flaw with spreads.

The spread didn't hold Harvin back, but it wasn't the reason why he went that high either. Thats crazy talk.

The only guy in recent memory that has been enhanced by the spread is Pat White.

etk
05-13-2009, 07:33 PM
The only guy in recent memory that has been enhanced by the spread is Pat White.

Good example. When he first started out it showcased his athleticism and running ability, but towards the end it showcased his accuracy and decision-making. It's hard to picture White in any other offense because he was so comfortable at WVU (other than the Pitt loss).

BigJohn98
05-13-2009, 08:08 PM
FSU offered Jacksonville (FL) Bishop Kenny tight end Neil Basford today, my former teammate. Pretty cool IYAM. He didn't commit but he says FSU is his number one team right now.

Sniper
05-13-2009, 09:50 PM
Joey, Torrian Wilson. Actually into Michigan or just messing around?

JoeyJr09
05-14-2009, 09:12 AM
Joey, Torrian Wilson. Actually into Michigan or just messing around?

He's actually into Michigan, but he'll be at Miami when it's all said and done. Remember, this is the part of the year were coaches travel across the country so see different places.

When the eval period ends and other coaches aren't allowed down to MNW as often, the only coaches that will be around will be Miami coaches.

Once the season starts and he starts hanging with his friends and former teammates we got here, he'll be here.

No one is really expecting otherwise.

Sniper
05-14-2009, 09:16 AM
He's actually into Michigan, but he'll be at Miami when it's all said and done. Remember, this is the part of the year were coaches travel across the country so see different places.

When the eval period ends and other coaches aren't allowed down to MNW as often, the only coaches that will be around will be Miami coaches.

Once the season starts and he starts hanging with his friends and former teammates we got here, he'll be here.

No one is really expecting otherwise.

Thanks. Did I ask you about what you know about T.C Robinson yet? Marvin's cousin.

cdub11
05-14-2009, 09:39 AM
Darius White has been talking up chokelahoma, looks like this one will come down to Texas and ou

wicket
05-14-2009, 09:51 AM
Joey, who do you like better and why?
Brent Benedict vs Brandon Linder

ToldLikeItIs
05-14-2009, 11:18 AM
Cj Fied, Dawson, Lewis, Scherff

Hines
05-14-2009, 12:17 PM
Kenny Stills got his USC offer. I expect him to be a Trojan soon. Sucks because I wanted him to be a Nittany Lion next fall. Oh well.

ToldLikeItIs
05-14-2009, 12:19 PM
Iowa offered 2011 lineman with deep ND roots.

wicket
05-14-2009, 12:25 PM
Iowa offered 2011 lineman with deep ND roots.

Conor Hanratty?

I think ND will sent him his written offer 9/1 and welcome him to the 2011 class the next day if they do. Dont see them waiting with the offer. They've seen him on campus about a million times now. Only Charlie getting canned could change that.

JoeyJr09
05-14-2009, 12:46 PM
Snipe: The only reasn TC is getting interest is because of Marvin. I havent seen him, but heard hes a nobody.

Wicket: Linder is the best OL in the state. Despite what those idiots at Rivals say, he moves very well for his size and is by far the most athletic OL in the state this year. Plus he can play all 5 positions to boot.

ToldLikeItIs
05-14-2009, 01:28 PM
That's the guy.

For what it's worth, Ferentz does have a connection, but, the dad being a former ND QB is always a tough obstacle to overcome.

bwillie26
05-14-2009, 01:45 PM
Cj Fied, Dawson, Lewis, Scherff

You better hope Nebraska does not offer Dawson. If he does, it is over. He practically begged for an offer at our spring game, telling our coaches he would commit on the spot if offered. Unfortunately for him, I don't think we are gonna take a RB in this class unless in the very unlikely scenario we pull a major prospect. Aaron Green is the reason we will wait until '11 for a RB.

Scherff is also likely Nebraska bound, as it stands now. Kid had Nebraska leading at one time, we slipped, then he came to our spring game and all was forgotten. Kid loves Barney and made friends with every lineman we got in this last class and the current class. That includes Sirles, Coffey, Ash, Rodriguez and Moudy. All of them are real tight and call each other regularly. That includes Scherff who they are trying to get to come aboard.

ToldLikeItIs
05-14-2009, 01:50 PM
Dawson and Scherff are both Hawks and have been for awhile.

Is this a joke?

No more jokes.

Hines
05-14-2009, 01:53 PM
If they were Hawks, they would've commited by now.

Sniper
05-14-2009, 02:14 PM
If they were Hawks, they would've commited by now.

Nonsense. Andre Dawson has always been "The Hawk".

http://azdiamondhacks.mlblogs.com/diamondhacks/images/andre_dawson_expos.jpg

Beast.

cdub11
05-14-2009, 02:20 PM
Nonsense. Andre Dawson has always been "The Hawk".

http://azdiamondhacks.mlblogs.com/diamondhacks/images/andre_dawson_expos.jpg

Beast.

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/images/2006/10/06/qarh6ybu.jpg

I loved him with the cubbies

bwillie26
05-14-2009, 02:58 PM
Dawson and Scherff are both Hawks and have been for awhile.

Is this a joke?

No more jokes.

Read above. If they were locks, they would be committed.

As I said, if Dawson gets a Nebraska offer, he's a Husker within a week.

Scherff is a Nebraska lean as he was just a couple months ago. Scherff actually grew up a Cyclone fan (which is hilarious) but with family and friends who were Husker fans. That's what you get in Western Iowa.

etk
05-14-2009, 04:01 PM
Darius White has been talking up chokelahoma, looks like this one will come down to Texas and ou

Isn't he just doing that for show?

cdub11
05-14-2009, 04:32 PM
Isn't he just doing that for show?

I think there is some real interest there, however I still believe he ends up at UT

his girlfriend will be at UT this fall

sbh15
05-14-2009, 05:03 PM
Does Da'Rick Rodgers have any actual interest in UF, or is he all UGA?

JoeyJr09
05-14-2009, 05:38 PM
Does Da'Rick Rodgers have any actual interest in UF, or is he all UGA?

I've heard it the other way around. Heard he's all UF and the UGA is just for show.

Althought UGA is the home school so things could change I guess.

sbh15
05-14-2009, 06:24 PM
I've heard it the other way around. Heard he's all UF and the UGA is just for show.

Althought UGA is the home school so things could change I guess.

It's just odd, I haven't heard anything about him anywhere.

Then again, my source has pretty much gone dead since a month ago.

JayP
05-14-2009, 07:51 PM
Iowa offered 2011 lineman with deep ND roots.

Ferentz has a connection thats better than his dad being an ND legend?

Yes, the kids of former players do choose sometimes not to attend the same school that their dad did. But I've read that Hanratty is constantly on campus. It sounds like you have about as much of a chance as you did with Brian Smith or as much as you would with any kid related to the Golics.

And before you can rant about how Weis swiped Smith...all Weis did is not offer him based on the recommendation of ND's former DC. If Smith would have been offered earlier, Iowa stood no chance. I can find an article if you like.

And word is CJ Fed now has a top 3 that includes ND. Interesting.

ToldLikeItIs
05-14-2009, 08:54 PM
I said Ferentz has a connection, but obviously not as strong as ND and Weis.

Smith was slowplayed by Weis, simple as that. It's fine if he wants to be plan C. I can't fault him for that.

CJ, Dawson, Scherff = Hawks

Again, sorry.

ToldLikeItIs
05-14-2009, 09:00 PM
I wonder why ND just offered Alex Welch anyways..?

iowatreat54
05-14-2009, 09:00 PM
I'm pretty sure ND has always been in CJ's top 3, it's just that previously he said his top 2 were OSU and Iowa, and recently said that his top 3 are OSU, Iowa, and ND. Not that big of a deal, imo.

Also, Dawson wants immediate playing time, from what I remember. That could be the one thing that hurts us.

BigJohn98
05-14-2009, 09:01 PM
FSU should be getting a commitment this weekend. :)

ToldLikeItIs
05-14-2009, 09:43 PM
#3 RB the second he steps on campus.

bwillie26
05-14-2009, 10:59 PM
4* WR Keeston Terry (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=87181) commits to Nebraska as expected. Tyler Gabbert should not be far behind.

JoeyJr09
05-15-2009, 12:47 AM
FSU should be getting a commitment this weekend. :)

Heard the same thing.

Any names?

I'm guessing Shaw but I heard I could be one of that Georgia trio you are after.

BRAVEHEART
05-15-2009, 01:01 AM
3 star running back Trajuan Briggs commits to USC

http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/TRAJUANBRIGGS4_22150.JPG

JHG722
05-15-2009, 01:15 AM
We got our first commit for 2010 (usually doesnt happen anywhere near this early). 6'1 180 pound safety from Harrisburg. All-state. Nothing flashy star-wise, but All-state and runs a 4.5 40 sounds good to me. Not sure of any other offers, but Louisville, Miami, Maryland, Pitt, Virginia and Penn State were on his list.

iowatreat54
05-15-2009, 01:51 AM
#3 RB the second he steps on campus.

So he would beat out Hampton, Brinson, or Wegher? I highly doubt it.

When Dawson would be a true freshman, Hampton would be a true Jr., Brinson a RS Soph, and Wegher a true Soph/RS Frosh. Unless we move Wegher to WR or DB, there is no way Dawson is #3 just setting foot on campus.

I really want the kid to be a Hawk, but there is absolutely no way he is better than those 3 right now, or even after a year of experience.

wicket
05-15-2009, 01:53 AM
Ferentz has a connection thats better than his dad being an ND legend?

Yes, the kids of former players do choose sometimes not to attend the same school that their dad did. But I've read that Hanratty is constantly on campus. It sounds like you have about as much of a chance as you did with Brian Smith or as much as you would with any kid related to the Golics.

And before you can rant about how Weis swiped Smith...all Weis did is not offer him based on the recommendation of ND's former DC. If Smith would have been offered earlier, Iowa stood no chance. I can find an article if you like.

And word is CJ Fed now has a top 3 that includes ND. Interesting.

We did offer alex welch though today. So imo the staff either concedes this one or tries to foce fido to make a choice. either way i am pretty much ready to concede fido cuz i think welch want to be blue and gold pretty bad.

iowatreat54
05-15-2009, 02:21 AM
To further my previous comment, CJ said his top 2 were OSU and Iowa, and more recently said he has a top 4 of OSU, Iowa, Wisky, and ND. Add in that ND just offered another TE, I think it's pretty safe to say that ND doesn't feel in a safe position with CJ.

ToldLikeItIs
05-15-2009, 02:29 AM
Wegher isn't going to be a running back. Why do you think we neglected to recruit any type of safety last year?

BigJohn98
05-15-2009, 11:54 AM
Heard the same thing.

Any names?

I'm guessing Shaw but I heard I could be one of that Georgia trio you are after.

Neil Basford, TE, from my highschool.

BPhilb
05-15-2009, 02:11 PM
4* WR Keeston Terry (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=87181) commits to Nebraska as expected. Tyler Gabbert should not be far behind.


Good signing for you guys BWillie. Terry's not a burner, but a big body who will be tough to matchup against. We are on a bunch of talented receievers at Mizzou and some I like for our scheme better, but I would have rather him went to the Big 10 or something because I don't like the thought of facing him.

Can't wait until the 2011 game with Blaine vs Tyler which should be at our place. I'm with you in thinking he's heading your way.

keylime_5
05-15-2009, 04:12 PM
I see Tennessee offered Roderick Smith. He's starting to get the big ones.

Also, Cincy tight end Alex Welch (like you guys have already noted) has been blowing up, getting offered by teams like Oklahoma and Notre Dame. I hope we offer him, we need a tight end and the only offer to a TE we have out so far is to CJ, but he's gonna go to ND or Iowa most likely. I hope we don't wait too long before we go after Welch.

ToldLikeItIs
05-15-2009, 04:35 PM
Roderick Smith would be an unreal LB prospect.

JoeyJr09
05-15-2009, 04:52 PM
Neil Basford, TE, from my highschool.

Is he any good?

BamaFalcon59
05-15-2009, 04:57 PM
VT offered him. Looked like we had a decent shot until FSU offered.

Pretty much all I know on him.

kwilk103
05-15-2009, 06:50 PM
pahokee wr fred pickett and georgia lb/s jessel curry to wvu

BigJohn98
05-16-2009, 08:49 AM
Is he any good?

Very good, IMO. I've practiced with him everyday for the last three years. He runs great routes and has great hands. Has very good size, and speed for his size. He just needs to become a better blocker. He holds offers from VA Tech, Minnesotta, FSU, Arkansas, and Indiana. No one from my school ever has offers like that in football, so he's pretty damn good to get those kind of offers.

JoeyJr09
05-16-2009, 10:46 AM
Torrian Wilson named his tp 5 of Bama, Michigan, Stanford, Tennessee and UCLA.

Going out of his way to not name Miami. Usually when the happens we are under serious interest. The MNW kids name us out of respect usually, even if they aren't coming here, just because of our relationship with them. The fact he didnt list us means he's trying to hide it.

Ward
05-16-2009, 11:21 AM
Going out of his way to not name Miami. Usually when the happens we are under serious interest. The MNW kids name us out of respect usually, even if they aren't coming here, just because of our relationship with them. The fact he didnt list us means he's trying to hide it.

What are some other examples of this happening in the past?

wicket
05-16-2009, 11:27 AM
I see Tennessee offered Roderick Smith. He's starting to get the big ones.

Also, Cincy tight end Alex Welch (like you guys have already noted) has been blowing up, getting offered by teams like Oklahoma and Notre Dame. I hope we offer him, we need a tight end and the only offer to a TE we have out so far is to CJ, but he's gonna go to ND or Iowa most likely. I hope we don't wait too long before we go after Welch.

welch is WAY more likely to come to ND than Fido (and imo only will not go to ND is fido beats him to the spot which I dont believe will happen). TBH if tressel would use his TE for more than just blocking I think Fido would already be a buckeye

keylime_5
05-16-2009, 11:59 AM
I think the fact that Notre Dame has offered Welch already before CJ commits to anyone could be telling about CJ's interest in ND. I think he winds up at Iowa. Welch's situation could get interesting...does he pull the trigger for Notre Dame before Ohio State offers, or does he get an OSU offer and pull the trigger for ND anyways? If Welch does get an OSU offer I think it will be a battle.

JoeyJr09
05-16-2009, 01:43 PM
What are some other examples of this happening in the past?

Brandon McGee just last year.

William Campbell last year as well.

CC
05-16-2009, 01:50 PM
Brandon McGee just last year.

William Campbell last year as well.

William Campbell listed Michigan as his leader throughout the entire process until the very end when he named LSU his leader. He only did this because someone at Michigan leaked his early enrollment status and he was angry about it ruining his announcement.

Very different situation IMO.

JoeyJr09
05-16-2009, 02:00 PM
William Campbell listed Michigan as his leader throughout the entire process until the very end when he named LSU his leader. He only did this because someone at Michigan leaked his early enrollment status and he was angry about it ruining his announcement.

Very different situation IMO.

Fair point.

Brandon McGee listed everyone last year and eliminate Miami like a month before his annoucement so that situation is closer.

All this is for nothing tho. All this crap is frivolous. The stuff with MNW and BTW kids not being into us has nothing to do with the kids and everything to do with some childish assistants at the schools.

Some of the people working at those schools are putting pride in the way of the kids because these assistants are mad that former BTW HC Ice Harris got a job at Miami and the assistants feel like they got left behind. They are just looking for handouts and are adivising the kids to look around and say all this crap in public until they get their handouts. All this ish will get sorted out eventually and cooler heads will prevail and a good majority of the MNW and BTW kids will end up at Miami like they do every year since as far back as I can remember.

wicket
05-16-2009, 03:23 PM
I think the fact that Notre Dame has offered Welch already before CJ commits to anyone could be telling about CJ's interest in ND. I think he winds up at Iowa. Welch's situation could get interesting...does he pull the trigger for Notre Dame before Ohio State offers, or does he get an OSU offer and pull the trigger for ND anyways? If Welch does get an OSU offer I think it will be a battle.

I think your right. Its either that or welch was getting impatient and charlie wanted a good TE in this class no matter what.
To be honest I think welch to ND and Fido to pOSU is more likely although the other way around would make much more sense skillwise. OSU doesnt use TE's as receivers like at all and ND does that a lot. Combine that with Welch being a great blocker and Fido being a great receiver and you basicly have a mismatch

BigJohn98
05-17-2009, 08:59 AM
Tavaris Barnes has pretty much dropped Florida, and won't commit to the Gators. He says FSU and UNC are his top two right now.

JoeyJr09
05-17-2009, 03:01 PM
Tavaris Barnes has pretty much dropped Florida, and won't commit to the Gators. He says FSU and UNC are his top two right now.

We offered him recently but he's a backup plan seeing as Corey Lemonier is our last big DL target and he is a pretty big lean ATM.

We offered STA CB Keion Payne who is best friends with LaMarcus Joyner. We haven't really been after Joyner for awhile but offering Payne will likely help us with other STA guys like Bernard and Palardy who we are after.

Robinson and Linder already seem to be Miami leans from there. STA is gonna be a big feeder to us this year it looks like.

Sniper
05-17-2009, 03:03 PM
We haven't really been after Joyner for awhile

Por que no?

keylime_5
05-17-2009, 03:50 PM
meh, joyner is gonna come down to florida state and ohio state and his decision will probably be made well before he announces. osu probably really isn't in on any florida guys right now though other than joyner (yet). I'm sure we'll find an under the radar florida guy later this year tho.

JoeyJr09
05-17-2009, 05:12 PM
Por que no?

Too short. Our staff has pretty much cut off contact with any CB under the size of 5'10 and even that is a stretch. They are looking for 6' CBs like we used to get with guys like Antrel Rolle and Phillip Buchanon.

Our coaches are sick of our CBs getting pushed around by big WRs.

JoeyJr09
05-17-2009, 05:18 PM
I've been hearing that Joyner is gonna come down to FSU, FSU and FSU.

He's made up his mind already. T-Buck sealed that deal a long time ago.

OSU is wasting time there.

Also don't think OSU is gonna be unearthing any under the radar Florida kids (Not that they ever have. Guys like Sabino and Hyde weren't exactly "under the radar") considering we are so loaded that coaches are everywhere down here. Even areas like Treasure Coast and Cape Coral are being hit hard by coaches.

Race for the Heisman
05-17-2009, 05:33 PM
I've been hearing that Joyner is gonna come down to FSU, FSU and FSU.

He's made up his mind already. T-Buck sealed that deal a long time ago.

OSU is wasting time there.

Also don't think OSU is gonna be unearthing any under the radar Florida kids (Not that they ever have. Guys like Sabino and Hyde weren't exactly "under the radar") considering we are so loaded that coaches are everywhere down here. Even areas like Treasure Coast and Cape Coral are being hit hard by coaches.

Travis Howard is a guy who I think didn't really get a lot of attention down in Florida until he got an Ohio State offer. Also, Orhian Johnson (less convinced on him at this point as a player) looks like he might be a pretty good safety, although it is a little early to tell, and I don't think he was a really big recruit. Still, I'm big on Howard and if there's anyone who might fit in that 'unearthed' category it might be him, although I would generally agree with you in saying Ohio State isn't doing anything groundbreaking in Florida.

keylime_5
05-17-2009, 05:33 PM
At this point in the year back when we were recruiting Sabino, Howard, OJ Johnson, B.Rolle, and some other guys it wasn't really expected that we'd land them but we did. Guys like that plus Holmes, Salley, Gamble, Jenkins, etc. we landed weren't top priorities by the big three but turned out to be as good as any other Florida recruits from their class, so you could maybe call them that type of recruit. Right now the only guy we're in on seriously is Joyner, I expect we'll probably get one or so Florida guys who are not named Lamarcus Joyner this year, definitely enough talent down there to choose from after all. And regarding Joyner, all I've heard lately is all about how it will come down to OSU and FSU with a lot of OSU being the clear favorite at this point. I know his uncle went gaga over the spring game trip up here.

JoeyJr09
05-17-2009, 07:39 PM
RFTH: Travis Howard was a household name. He was a 4* guy with offers from OSU, UT, UF, Miami and various others. That's no "unearthing" a kid. He was a big recruit.

Keylime: Holmes was a 3* with offers from VT, Pitt and a few others. Salley was a 4* with offers. Gamble I remember being a pretty big recruit. The guys that you mentioned above were all pretty good recruits. They might not have been a top tier guy in state but it's not like they were complete unknowns. I can't remember OSU ever coming down here and unearthing a guy. The guys they get from Florida are always pretty good and were always rated pretty highly. Just cause they didn't have offers from the Big 3 didn't mean they weren't good players that people knew about.

I dunno if you guys meant something else by unearthed. But unearthed to me means a really low ranked guy that goes on to be a player. Think Donald Washington for you guys. A real low 2* that starts most his career and gets drafted.

I can't think of anyone like that you got out of Florida.

keylime_5
05-17-2009, 07:46 PM
I never said we were gonna unearth any diamonds in the rough outta Florida, I said I think we're gonna get an under the radar guy probably. That means a guy who is not on our radar right now. You started talking about "unearthing" guys so I mentioned Holmes, Jenkins, etc. who weren't heavily recruited by FSU/UF/Miami. We've gotten guys who weren't top names down there a lot. But yes, most of the complete unknowns like Donald Washington, AJ Hawk, Malcolm Jenkins, Brian Robiskie, etc. we've gotten were local midwest guys.

Race for the Heisman
05-17-2009, 08:48 PM
RFTH: Travis Howard was a household name. He was a 4* guy with offers from OSU, UT, UF, Miami and various others. That's no "unearthing" a kid. He was a big recruit.

Keylime: Holmes was a 3* with offers from VT, Pitt and a few others. Salley was a 4* with offers. Gamble I remember being a pretty big recruit. The guys that you mentioned above were all pretty good recruits. They might not have been a top tier guy in state but it's not like they were complete unknowns. I can't remember OSU ever coming down here and unearthing a guy. The guys they get from Florida are always pretty good and were always rated pretty highly. Just cause they didn't have offers from the Big 3 didn't mean they weren't good players that people knew about.

I dunno if you guys meant something else by unearthed. But unearthed to me means a really low ranked guy that goes on to be a player. Think Donald Washington for you guys. A real low 2* that starts most his career and gets drafted.

I can't think of anyone like that you got out of Florida.

For some reason I thought he was a three star who earned a fourth later, but I don't really follow recruiting in quite the same detail as some other things. Meh.

keylime_5
05-17-2009, 09:08 PM
Chimdi Chekwa. That's probably the one guy we got out of Florida that was a hidden gem ala Donald Washington, Brian Robiskie, Malcolm Jenkins, etc.

Sniper
05-17-2009, 09:08 PM
Chimdi Chekwa. That's probably the one guy we got out of Florida that was a hidden gem.

Chekwa hasn't proved that he's anything more than an average #2 corner, though.

keylime_5
05-17-2009, 09:36 PM
He's had some great games (07 Purdue, 08 USC) and some bad ones (08 Texas), but he's done just as much as Donald Washington who was a round 4 draft choice. In fact he was the starting cornerback last year over Washington because he was playing quite well. Being the #3 corner as a freshman and the #2 corner as a sophomore and all he has done so far has certainly exceeded his expectations coming in. He may or may not be a great find like Robiskie and Jenkins, but he was a low 3 star recruit no one thought would garner much playing time who has made a big impact and is a good starting corner, probably future all-big ten player. Chekwa was part of the big ten champion 4x100 relay team this weekend too.

JoeyJr09
05-17-2009, 11:00 PM
For some reason I thought he was a three star who earned a fourth later, but I don't really follow recruiting in quite the same detail as some other things. Meh.

He did earn his 4th star later but he was still a highly regarded prospect and had tons of offers from all the big schools.

ToldLikeItIs
05-18-2009, 02:40 AM
Know who's an awesome athlete?

Sniper.

Did anyone here play in Hoop It Up btw?

Sniper
05-18-2009, 12:50 PM
Know who's an awesome athlete?

Sniper.

Did anyone here play in Hoop It Up btw?

Know which post made no sense? Take three guesses.

Looks like LaTwan Anderson is all OSU if they offer.

wicket
05-18-2009, 05:11 PM
Even some Michigan site (If someone wants the link It would take me a while) rates ND as the favourite for Lo Wood. Since Spencer Boyds decision is pretty imminent as well our corner class could fill up nice and quick (unlike many other positions :( )

Sniper
05-18-2009, 08:52 PM
Even some Michigan site (If someone wants the link It would take me a while) rates ND as the favourite for Lo Wood. Since Spencer Boyds decision is pretty imminent as well our corner class could fill up nice and quick (unlike many other positions :( )

http://mgoblog.com/diaries/lo-wood-decide-june

Lo Wood will be choosing his college of choice next month, if all goes to plan. His recruitment has been up and down lately, after what seemed to be a big Michigan lean. The recruiting ride took a sharp turn after Lo took a visit to Notre Dame's spring game.

He came back from the trip ranting and raving about the experience, and declared that Notre Dame was tied with Michigan. It seems that somewhere along the way the Fighting Irish have taken over the lead. This isn't a done deal, and as I said, it has been a roller coaster decision. If Lo was choosing now, it seems he would pick Notre Dame.

I fully expect the full court press to be put on by the Michigan coaches, which could result in our favor. Lo Senior's relationship with former Notre Dame players have played a role, as well as the Irish coaching staff. Several recruits have told me that it doesn't look good with Lo. They were quick to retort with a few names they are confident with, that would definitely make the fans happy. Rashad Knight was one name that came up, and it seems to look good for now.

As I said, and as we have all seen, anything can happen. This isn't over yet, but it looks like Notre Dame may have the advantage. Stay tuned...

bigbenn
05-18-2009, 09:00 PM
New rivals article stating Iowa leads for Fiedorowicz...can't believe Told got another one...

Sniper
05-18-2009, 09:14 PM
Even some Michigan site (If someone wants the link It would take me a while) rates ND as the favourite for Lo Wood. Since Spencer Boyds decision is pretty imminent as well our corner class could fill up nice and quick (unlike many other positions :( )

Also, Cody Riggs is pretty much headed to ND.

JoeyJr09
05-18-2009, 09:21 PM
Also, Cody Riggs is pretty much headed to ND.

FSU has something to say about that.

superman8456
05-18-2009, 09:33 PM
Im surprised FSU's probation, etc. hasnt deterred players from committing to them.

Im also very frustrated with Penn St's recruiting, or lack thereof.

JoeyJr09
05-18-2009, 09:41 PM
Im surprised FSU's probation, etc. hasnt deterred players from committing to them.

Im also very frustrated with Penn St's recruiting, or lack thereof.

It has.

Check Merrill Noel.

He eliminated them because he didn't wanna play there during a probation period.

But they are still a top flight program on the rise and will get their fair share of recruits.

ToldLikeItIs
05-18-2009, 11:22 PM
Just solid lately, I thank the nfldc academy.

Hines
05-18-2009, 11:27 PM
Im surprised FSU's probation, etc. hasnt deterred players from committing to them.

Im also very frustrated with Penn St's recruiting, or lack thereof.

How are you frustrated?

Ward
05-18-2009, 11:33 PM
Would anyone mind telling me what to expect from Texas' recruiting efforts the past couple of seasons and who to look out for as a result of those? I suppose I could go to a UT specific forum, but I wanted to see what some outsiders thought first. If this deserves it's own thread I'd be happy to make one, but I felt like this is a pretty small question.

Sniper
05-18-2009, 11:36 PM
Would anyone mind telling me what to expect from Texas' recruiting efforts the past couple of seasons and who to look out for as a result of those? I suppose I could go to a UT specific forum, but I wanted to see what some outsiders thought first.

No team does a better job of recruiting in-state, obviously. Garrett Gilbert was the National Gatorade Player of the Year last year (I think) and he's probably the heir to Colt McCoy's throne. I think Alex Okafor can be the next Brian Orakpo for you guys, and Marcus Davis is a pretty solid DB prospect. From the '08 class, I'm a big fan of Dan Buckner and Aaron Williams.

ToldLikeItIs
05-18-2009, 11:37 PM
Dare I claim Sean Robinson?

kwilk103
05-18-2009, 11:43 PM
No team does a better job of recruiting in-state, obviously. Garrett Gilbert was the National Gatorade Player of the Year last year (I think) and he's probably the heir to Colt McCoy's throne. I think Alex Okafor can be the next Brian Orakpo for you guys, and Marcus Davis is a pretty solid DB prospect. From the '08 class, I'm a big fan of Dan Buckner and Aaron Williams.

agree

they pretty much get whoever they want from texas (obviously ou, ok st will get a couple every year), and it helps that texas is a top 3 state for talent

saintsfan912
05-19-2009, 06:27 AM
Ahem Russell Sheppard and Craig Loston say hey from Baton Rouge. Lache will be too hopefully.

JoeyJr09
05-19-2009, 08:03 AM
Ahem Russell Sheppard and Craig Loston say hey from Baton Rouge. Lache will be too hopefully.

Pretty sure Sheppard has no place in that discussion seeing as he was never recruited by Texas.

HindSight
05-19-2009, 08:36 AM
Pretty sure Sheppard has no place in that discussion seeing as he was never recruited by Texas.
...And had he been, he would be there now.

Sniper
05-19-2009, 08:37 AM
...And had he been, he would be there now.

Didn't he get a WR offer but wanted to be a QB?

JoeyJr09
05-19-2009, 08:39 AM
Didn't he get a WR offer but wanted to be a QB?

Pretty sure that was last minute and never came with any serious recruiting by Texas.

Sniper
05-19-2009, 08:42 AM
Pretty sure that was last minute and never came with any serious recruiting by Texas.

I wasn't saying he was seriously recruited. Just asking if he had an ATH/WR offer out of my own curiosity.

cdub11
05-19-2009, 09:20 AM
Didn't he get a WR offer but wanted to be a QB?

Yes

Texas recruited Russell Shepard heavily in the beginning but would not offer as a QB

cdub11
05-19-2009, 10:13 AM
Would anyone mind telling me what to expect from Texas' recruiting efforts the past couple of seasons and who to look out for as a result of those? I suppose I could go to a UT specific forum, but I wanted to see what some outsiders thought first. If this deserves it's own thread I'd be happy to make one, but I felt like this is a pretty small question.

09 Class
Garrett Gilbert
Alex Okafor
Chris Whaley
Marcus Davis
Calvin Howell
Mason Walters
Greg Timmons
Tariq Allen

08 Class
Aaron Williams
Dan Buckner
Desean Hales
DJ Monroe
DJ Grant
Kheeston Randall

07 Class (Not naming the well known guys but these 2 should make an impact this year)
Christian Scott
Keenan Robinson

Looking ahead 10 Class
Reggie Wilson
Taylor Bible
Ahmad Dixon
Tevin Jackson
Aaron Benson
Chris Jones
Ross Apo
Trey Hopkins

ToldLikeItIs
05-19-2009, 11:10 AM
Trinca Pasat, Fiedorowicz, Dawson

In that order

wicket
05-19-2009, 01:28 PM
FSU has something to say about that.

meh he pretty much told the ND staff to stop recruiting him because he was sure enough about ND but just wanted to follow his brothers advice and take some officials.
There have been more than enough sounds that he has even been selling ND to both bernard and linder. Not saying it will help because both will be tougher to pull than Riggs but I really like our chances with riggs.
I'd put ND's chances with our STA offers:
Riggs 80%
Linder 35%
Bernard 25%

All say the right things but I'm just WAY more confortable about riggs. Linder would have been in the pocket if Latina wouldnt have been sent packing (as would Hurst, firing that guy really hurt us recruitingwise but it had to be done). Bernard will only come if the pressure on charlie will cool off a bit I think. I'd love to get im though (although of ND's rb offers I like Jordon James more and strangely enough we are far from out of the picture of michael dyer, dont know why but he is planning an unofficial and if guys travel that far just for an unofficial it makes me like our chances to a degree that I think we could be a factor (though FAR from a frontrunner))

Sorry went off topic there a bit

srv fan
05-19-2009, 01:42 PM
Ahem Russell Sheppard and Craig Loston say hey from Baton Rouge. Lache will be too hopefully.

OU and LSU get some guys every year, but please tell me you're not disputing that Texas completely dominates their home turf. They consistently field national championship contenders, multiple first round draft picks, etc. with literally nothing but Texas players. They're not 100% effective on getting every top player from Texas, but they're damn close. You also have to factor in their recruiting style. My perception of Texas recruiting (and a UT fan can correct me if I'm wrong) is that they're not nearly as patient or will bend their backs to get recruits who don't REALLY want to be in the burnt orange. They identify you early, offer you really early, and if you don't jump all over that, there's another guy waiting to take your place. Maybe not quite as good, but damn close- the quality and depth of Texas high school football means there is someone who is almost as good as you dying to be part of the team, and so Texas doesn't let itself get into Bryce Brown type situations where a recruit tries to act bigger than the team.

And as mentioned re: Russell Sheppard, Texas lets some really good recruits go every year because they don't specifically fit into what the coaching staff is trying to do schematically. What a luxury...

CashmoneyDrew
05-19-2009, 01:53 PM
J.C. Copeland, DE from Georgia commits to the Vols today.

draftguru151
05-19-2009, 01:53 PM
Would anyone mind telling me what to expect from Texas' recruiting efforts the past couple of seasons and who to look out for as a result of those? I suppose I could go to a UT specific forum, but I wanted to see what some outsiders thought first. If this deserves it's own thread I'd be happy to make one, but I felt like this is a pretty small question.

Greg "high top fade" Timmons ftw.

http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/GREGTIMMONSARMY09200.JPG

Random recruiting comment, Da'Rick Rogers tape is absolutely ridiculous.

cdub11
05-19-2009, 02:07 PM
OU and LSU get some guys every year, but please tell me you're not disputing that Texas completely dominates their home turf. They consistently field national championship contenders, multiple first round draft picks, etc. with literally nothing but Texas players. They're not 100% effective on getting every top player from Texas, but they're damn close. You also have to factor in their recruiting style. My perception of Texas recruiting (and a UT fan can correct me if I'm wrong) is that they're not nearly as patient or will bend their backs to get recruits who don't REALLY want to be in the burnt orange. They identify you early, offer you really early, and if you don't jump all over that, there's another guy waiting to take your place. Maybe not quite as good, but damn close- the quality and depth of Texas high school football means there is someone who is almost as good as you dying to be part of the team, and so Texas doesn't let itself get into Bryce Brown type situations where a recruit tries to act bigger than the team.

And as mentioned re: Russell Sheppard, Texas lets some really good recruits go every year because they don't specifically fit into what the coaching staff is trying to do schematically. What a luxury...

that is pretty right on... Demarco Cobbs was offered early but after missing two scheduled visits and not expressing much interest the staff moved on... obviously they will wait for the elite guys such as Lache, Darius White and Jeffcoat but for the most part there are so many players in the state that want to go to Texas they dont have to bend for every player.

JoeyJr09
05-19-2009, 04:56 PM
meh he pretty much told the ND staff to stop recruiting him because he was sure enough about ND but just wanted to follow his brothers advice and take some officials.
There have been more than enough sounds that he has even been selling ND to both bernard and linder. Not saying it will help because both will be tougher to pull than Riggs but I really like our chances with riggs.
I'd put ND's chances with our STA offers:
Riggs 80%
Linder 35%
Bernard 25%

All say the right things but I'm just WAY more confortable about riggs. Linder would have been in the pocket if Latina wouldnt have been sent packing (as would Hurst, firing that guy really hurt us recruitingwise but it had to be done). Bernard will only come if the pressure on charlie will cool off a bit I think. I'd love to get im though (although of ND's rb offers I like Jordon James more and strangely enough we are far from out of the picture of michael dyer, dont know why but he is planning an unofficial and if guys travel that far just for an unofficial it makes me like our chances to a degree that I think we could be a factor (though FAR from a frontrunner))

Sorry went off topic there a bit

Just telling you what I've been hearing. I've heard a few times that Riggs has cooled some on ND and it's now 50-50 with them and FSU.

Seriously doubt you get Bernard or Linder. Bernard wants to follow his bro to Oregon State and Linder is pretty set on us with UF being number 2.

kwilk103
05-20-2009, 02:02 PM
update on wvu 'commit' pahokee wr fred pickett

wanted a wvu offer in feb, and wanted to commit
coaches see him this week, and he gets one
he commits, tells our coaches, rivals, scout, his teammates
coach finds out in the morning, and convinces him to not commit
says he never committed

ToldLikeItIs
05-20-2009, 02:34 PM
Iowa and Rutgers are Rigg's top two.

Doug Rigg, not Cody Riggs.

Lukewarm.

703SKINS202
05-20-2009, 06:55 PM
update on wvu 'commit' pahokee wr fred pickett

wanted a wvu offer in feb, and wanted to commit
coaches see him this week, and he gets one
he commits, tells our coaches, rivals, scout, his teammates
coach finds out in the morning, and convinces him to not commit
says he never committed

So what does that mean? Coach wants him to keep his options open or something?

kwilk103
05-20-2009, 07:12 PM
So what does that mean? Coach wants him to keep his options open or something?

no idea

i coach didnt ok him going to wvu

keylime_5
05-20-2009, 09:13 PM
Ohio State offers TE Alex Welch!!!!!!!!

I hope we can keep him in state. Also, I think this pretty much concedes Fiedorwiscz to Iowa.

19SEP2009
05-20-2009, 10:32 PM
So what does that mean? Coach wants him to keep his options open or something?

It means that his offer, like ever other offer, means squat. It conveys no rights to the recipient. Until the LOI, nobody is bound. Another term for this offer is an "uncommittable offer".

It means Pickett is a plan B (contingency) athlete for WVU. He's there to flirt with while they wait for the Plan A guy(s) to make uptheir mind. They are not going to take his publicly acknowledge any committment until they are good and ready.

This has already happened with at least three Gator hopefuls this year, so I'm familiar with the situation. Like those three, Pickett didn't get the full picture and didn't know that he was supposed to check in with the staff at WVU before telling the rest of the world what was going on.

Nw that you know what to look for, you'll see it again and again.

kwilk103
05-20-2009, 10:52 PM
It means that his offer, like ever other offer, means squat. It conveys no rights to the recipient. Until the LOI, nobody is bound. Another term for this offer is an "uncommittable offer".

It means Pickett is a plan B (contingency) athlete for WVU. He's there to flirt with while they wait for the Plan A guy(s) to make uptheir mind. They are not going to take his publicly acknowledge any committment until they are good and ready.

This has already happened with at least three Gator hopefuls this year, so I'm familiar with the situation. Like those three, Pickett didn't get the full picture and didn't know that he was supposed to check in with the staff at WVU before telling the rest of the world what was going on.

Nw that you know what to look for, you'll see it again and again.

no, pickett commited---wanted to in feb, but was told to wait

doc and one of our ga's visited; he commited

his hs coach found out in the morning, and told him to hold off---to look around

we took his commitment, the pahokee coach did not want him to

wicket
05-21-2009, 01:58 AM
Ohio State offers TE Alex Welch!!!!!!!!

I hope we can keep him in state. Also, I think this pretty much concedes Fiedorwiscz to Iowa.

he's coming to visit ND today, wouldnt be suprised if he left committed. Sorry to be rude but you guys are a DISTANT second for this boy

keylime_5
05-21-2009, 09:44 AM
I know a lot of people were expecting him to commit to Notre Dame after this week, but that was before he got our offer. Things could change now perhaps.

Sniper
05-21-2009, 10:14 AM
I know a lot of people were expecting him to commit to Notre Dame after this week, but that was before he got our offer. Things could change now perhaps.

I can't imagine why a tight end would want to sign with Ohio State.

keylime_5
05-21-2009, 10:47 AM
well there is pretty much no competition to start. Reid Fragel is bound for left tackle and the only other tight ends on the roster are Nic DiLillo and Jake Stoneburner (who is a flex). I think we are re-evaluating how we're gonna use the TE and FB from now on too. Stoneburner is gonna be a receiving target and will hardly block.

Sniper
05-21-2009, 10:48 AM
well there is pretty much no competition to start. Reid Fragel is bound for left tackle and the only other tight ends on the roster are Nic DiLillo and Jake Stoneburner (who is a flex).

Isn't the big reason why Fragel signed with OSU because they were going to let him play TE?

keylime_5
05-21-2009, 10:50 AM
he's a tight end now, but he's gonna be 6'8", 270+ in another year. I think there was talk that he was told he was gonna be an offensive tackle eventually before he signed just like Andy Miller back in 06.

wicket
05-21-2009, 02:13 PM
he's a tight end now, but he's gonna be 6'8", 270+ in another year. I think there was talk that he was told he was gonna be an offensive tackle eventually before he signed just like Andy Miller back in 06.

duh, at OSU a TE is basicly an offensive lineman anyways. Dont think your offer for welch changes much tbh, he is still on campus and no news of a commit has leaked so I could very well be wrong but I think he leaves the campus committed

PENNSTATEHOMER
05-21-2009, 04:52 PM
We got our first commit for 2010 (usually doesnt happen anywhere near this early). 6'1 180 pound safety from Harrisburg. All-state. Nothing flashy star-wise, but All-state and runs a 4.5 40 sounds good to me. Not sure of any other offers, but Louisville, Miami, Maryland, Pitt, Virginia and Penn State were on his list.

Anthony Holmes from Harrisburg SHS, nice grab. I had thought he was an '09 recruit but I must have been mistaken. I actually just checked his scout profile and he is playing in the upcoming Big 33 game, so he was indeed an '09 recruit...he'll be a player. Academics could've been an issue but I'm not sure on that, all I know is he is a good player and should project well at the collegiate level as a defensive player.

This is the type of kid that you could easily see starting at CB for PSU....it is funny that we pull in back to back #1 CBs nationally, yet King goes 4th round and AJ Wallace starts off and on. Thankfully Wallace has one more year for the light to come on, and I AM holding my breath, but it disappoints me that these guys can't get their head in the game like an Alan Zemaitis or Malcolm Jenkins....highly disappointed with PSU CBs lately. :(

PENNSTATEHOMER
05-21-2009, 05:19 PM
Yeah, as far as I know Devon Smith has yet to run a sub-10.40 in the 100. Denard has done that three times.

Rivals listed Devon Smith as the fastest '09 recruit, deal with it. :p

http://www.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=2259

He was also the 4th leading rusher in the state of MD (in '09) with over 1,600 yards rushing, this doesn't even include his exploits as a receiver, kick returner, and punt returner....he plays good 3A comp as well and led Westlake to a state championship, and was big school all-state first team in football as well. Then you throw in his track exploits...also won the 3A state team championship, the 55M, the 300M, had the fastest 55M in the country and the second fastest 60M.

He was doing this at 5'7/5'8 150-155 pounds...he was just as dangerous as a sophomore at Eleanor Roosevelt (MD), had to sit out as a junior at Westlake (MD), and then had the SR year he had. He works out with DWill during the summers and will join two other former HS teammates in Eleanor Roosevelt's WR/DB Derrick Thomas and DB Stephon Morris.

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Trindon Holliday ran a 6.19 55M indoor which is ridiculous, Devon Smith ran a 6.21...what is Denard's fastest 55M?

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The prestigious Millrose Games this year:

http://www.dyestat.com//?pg=usInterval-Sessions-Indoors09-IntSes93-DSmithMD&PHPSESSID=746fd59bbbbebbba87c3f3682c022724

60 M dash at the Millrose Games:

Finals
1 Devon Smith USA 6.65
2 Miles Lewis USA 6.88
3 Nickel Ashmeade JAM 6.92
4 Ayo Isijola USA 7.00
5 Darryl Bradshaw USA 7.06
6 Andrew Walsh JAM 7.10

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/16/AR2009021601466.html?hpid=artslot

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/06/AR2009040603517.html

Washington Post ATH of the Year. Fastest 55M in the country (6.21), second fastest 60M (6.63).

ToldLikeItIs
05-21-2009, 08:50 PM
Iowa is going to have a pretty wild class man

JoeyJr09
05-22-2009, 07:32 AM
Iowa is going to have a pretty wild class man

By Iowa standards.

But they aren't exactly going to be USC.

Top 25 should be a solid class for them.

wicket
05-22-2009, 10:36 AM
Justin McCay has a top 6 with ND sticking out. If we could get him I'd be so happy. Kid is one of the best players regardless of position in this clas imo.

ToldLikeItIs
05-22-2009, 12:39 PM
McCay would be a filthy OLB

I just compared Michael Floyd to Larry Fitzgerald in another thread Wicket

I'm thinking top 20 Joey, I'll go ahead and call out #18 right now.

Hines
05-22-2009, 12:52 PM
NY OG/DT Daquan Jones is getting a Penn State offer in the mail soon. I expect this to be over soon.

PENNSTATEHOMER
05-22-2009, 02:45 PM
NY OG/DT Daquan Jones is getting a Penn State offer in the mail soon. I expect this to be over soon.

I love the "this changes everything" quote....hopefully good news for PSU sooner or later. This kid could stand out at either OG or DT and be just as good of a player.

PENNSTATEHOMER
05-22-2009, 05:28 PM
Originally Posted by P-L

Yeah, as far as I know Devon Smith has yet to run a sub-10.40 in the 100. Denard has done that three times.

Well I don't know about under 10.40, but Smith set the 100M record in the state of Maryland this past year with a 10.42....I assume it was FAT.

Sniper
05-22-2009, 05:36 PM
Well I don't know about under 10.40, but Smith set the 100M record in the state of Maryland this past year with a 10.42....I assume it was FAT.

What took him so long?

http://www.freep.com/article/20090406/SPORTS06/904060379/1054/SPORTS06/U-M+QB+update++Forcier+called++slippery+++Robinson+r uns+10.28

Apparently, U-M recruit Denard Robinson keeps getting faster. The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported that the quarterback ran a 10.28 100-meter dash in a meet last Wednesday, on the heels of his 10.44 the previous week.

Either way, they're both ridiculously fast.

Hines
05-22-2009, 06:00 PM
Ahmad Dixon decommits from Texas and commits to Baylor.

cdub11
05-22-2009, 09:37 PM
Ahmad Dixon decommits from Texas and commits to Baylor.

There were a lot of rumors about him switching all week... he is a big time player... he lives in Waco and likes it there so I definately understand him wanting to play in his hometown... I think the depth chart also had a lot to do with it, he can start immediately at Baylor

wicket
05-22-2009, 10:24 PM
McCay would be a filthy OLB

I just compared Michael Floyd to Larry Fitzgerald in another thread Wicket

I'm thinking top 20 Joey, I'll go ahead and call out #18 right now.

from what I've seen of him I like him a LOT at wideout. He has sick quickness for someone his size and someone as thick as he is. Based on film he looks like a quicker Michael Floyd, something I would take every day of the weak.

Thanks for the Floyd-Fitz comparison, I like it, only Floyd misses break away speed for the pros prolly, for the rest its a really good fit, both guys catch anything within 20 yards of the and use their body rediculously well.

In other ND new:Cody Riggs reaffirmed that he is all but committed to ND and told the staff to stop recruiting him cuz he is solid. The only reason he didnt commit yet apparently is becaus his high school coach doesnt want his players to commit early (hence none of the STA guys are committed if im not mistaking)

Hines
05-22-2009, 10:51 PM
There were a lot of rumors about him switching all week... he is a big time player... he lives in Waco and likes it there so I definately understand him wanting to play in his hometown... I think the depth chart also had a lot to do with it, he can start immediately at Baylor

This has to be a very good get for Baylor. Now only if he can convince other Texas players and top players that Baylor is on the rise.

Hines
05-22-2009, 10:54 PM
I now see why Penn State offered Brent Benedict. His mother is a Penn State grad and he has family that lives in Erie, PA. He is going to visit over the summer and I hope that sells him to Penn State to strongly consider us. He would be a very good get and could help out our Florida recruiting.

BRAVEHEART
05-23-2009, 01:34 AM
My lil predict your class post for this month

DE.Ronald Powell*****
WR.Robert Woods****
RB.DJ Morgan****
TE.Xavier Grimble****
RB.Dillon Baxter****
WR.Markieth Ambles****
LB/S.Tony Jefferson****
DE/LB.Owamagbe Odighizuwa****
ATH.Marquis Flowers****
ATH.Demarco Cobbs****
QB.Jesse Scroggins****
CB.Demetrius Wright****
DT.Ricky Heimuli****
WR.Kenny Stills****
LB.Justin Maclin****
ATH.Dietrich Riley****
RB.Trajuan Briggs***
ATH. Hayes Pullard****
CB.Joshua Shaw***
DT.Dak Smith***
ATH.Soma Vainuku(NR)
ATH.Anthony Jefferson***
P. Matt Darr (NR)
TE.Randall Telfer****
OT.TJ Leifheit****
OG.Nick Rowland****

PENNSTATEHOMER
05-23-2009, 02:05 AM
My lil predict your class post for this month

WR.Kenny Stills****


I assume USC will indeed receive his commitment (sooner or later), but I believe he most recently said that his top two were USC & PSU, and he has never even stepped foot on the PSU campus. Of course there is a good chance that he may very well never step foot on campus now that he got that USC offer, but he continues mentioning that he wants to take a PSU official...plus he has been saying that USC is pressuring him to commit but he'll take his time.

JHG722
05-23-2009, 02:07 AM
Anthony Holmes from Harrisburg SHS, nice grab. I had thought he was an '09 recruit but I must have been mistaken. I actually just checked his scout profile and he is playing in the upcoming Big 33 game, so he was indeed an '09 recruit...he'll be a player. Academics could've been an issue but I'm not sure on that, all I know is he is a good player and should project well at the collegiate level as a defensive player.

This is the type of kid that you could easily see starting at CB for PSU....it is funny that we pull in back to back #1 CBs nationally, yet King goes 4th round and AJ Wallace starts off and on. Thankfully Wallace has one more year for the light to come on, and I AM holding my breath, but it disappoints me that these guys can't get their head in the game like an Alan Zemaitis or Malcolm Jenkins....highly disappointed with PSU CBs lately. :(

Everything I've seen says he's a 2010 recruit. I dont think the Big 33 is all seniors. Anyway, a bunch of people who have watched Holmes extensively said Rivals and Scout missed out big time.

JHG722
05-23-2009, 02:13 AM
Rivals listed Devon Smith as the fastest '09 recruit, deal with it. :p

http://www.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=2259

He was also the 4th leading rusher in the state of MD (in '09) with over 1,600 yards rushing, this doesn't even include his exploits as a receiver, kick returner, and punt returner....he plays good 3A comp as well and led Westlake to a state championship, and was big school all-state first team in football as well. Then you throw in his track exploits...also won the 3A state team championship, the 55M, the 300M, had the fastest 55M in the country and the second fastest 60M.

He was doing this at 5'7/5'8 150-155 pounds...he was just as dangerous as a sophomore at Eleanor Roosevelt (MD), had to sit out as a junior at Westlake (MD), and then had the SR year he had. He works out with DWill during the summers and will join two other former HS teammates in Eleanor Roosevelt's WR/DB Derrick Thomas and DB Stephon Morris.

Oh wow, we offered Devon Smith. Damn, he would've been a good get for us.

BRAVEHEART
05-23-2009, 03:46 AM
I assume USC will indeed receive his commitment (sooner or later), but I believe he most recently said that his top two were USC & PSU, and he has never even stepped foot on the PSU campus. Of course there is a good chance that he may very well never step foot on campus now that he got that USC offer, but he continues mentioning that he wants to take a PSU official...plus he has been saying that USC is pressuring him to commit but he'll take his time.


He loves USC, but if he loves them as much as he says, he would've commited by now. (IMO) PSU is still in the race, just USC has a decent lead. If he doesn't go to USC I'd be shocked if he's not at PSU.

JoeyJr09
05-23-2009, 04:08 AM
from what I've seen of him I like him a LOT at wideout. He has sick quickness for someone his size and someone as thick as he is. Based on film he looks like a quicker Michael Floyd, something I would take every day of the weak.

Thanks for the Floyd-Fitz comparison, I like it, only Floyd misses break away speed for the pros prolly, for the rest its a really good fit, both guys catch anything within 20 yards of the and use their body rediculously well.

In other ND new:Cody Riggs reaffirmed that he is all but committed to ND and told the staff to stop recruiting him cuz he is solid. The only reason he didnt commit yet apparently is becaus his high school coach doesnt want his players to commit early (hence none of the STA guys are committed if im not mistaking)

STA kids are never allowed to commit early because they are not allowed to decommit. Their coach absolutely does not let them change their mind and decommit ever. I've never seen it happen in all my time following recruiting.

So he has them all time their time and wait til towards the end when they are 100 percent sure of their decision and nothing will change their mind.