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HawkeyeFan
02-09-2009, 02:20 PM
There wasn't one, and I figured to save from people posting each cut, that we could have a thread?...


Anyway:

Pacman is probably going to be cut, and TO might be cut..


Anyone else rumored to be cut right now? Or that has been cut.

gpngc
02-09-2009, 02:22 PM
Panthers CB Ken Lucas is due a $9 million bonus so he's likely to be cut.

RaiderNation
02-09-2009, 02:23 PM
Reports say FS Michael Huff will get released by the raiders

bored of education
02-09-2009, 02:31 PM
LJ may be cut. But in the end I think he remains a Chief. I will not speculate any further. Only official cuts guys!

HawkeyeFan
02-09-2009, 02:32 PM
I'd definitely like to pick up Huff in St. Louis for cheap, just to see a fresh start is worth it.


Isn't Ken Lucas still fairly young and good?

Brent
02-09-2009, 02:53 PM
If I'm lucky, Mark Roman.

tjsunstein
02-09-2009, 03:07 PM
Jarrett Bush hopefully.

HawkeyeFan
02-09-2009, 03:10 PM
Rams might part ways and cut: Orlando Pace, Torry Holt, Leonard Little, Corey Chavous, Trent Green.


Of course we're dangling Pace, Holt and Little for trade; however, if there isn't a suitor then it's a possibility to cut them, freeing up some cap room.

Ness
02-09-2009, 03:13 PM
Rams might part ways and cut: Orlando Pace, Torry Holt, Leonard Little, Corey Chavous, Trent Green.


Of course we're dangling Pace, Holt and Little for trade; however, if there isn't a suitor then it's a possibility to cut them, freeing up some cap room.

That's a shame. Pace seemed to have one his best seasons this past year correct? Started 14 games and only allowed 2 sacks with just 2 penalties for 2 yards.

Holt still looks like he can be a starter.

BlindSite
02-09-2009, 03:15 PM
I'd definitely like to pick up Huff in St. Louis for cheap, just to see a fresh start is worth it.


Isn't Ken Lucas still fairly young and good?

I think Lucas is nearly 29, he has a lot of shoulder problems and has had some issues in coverage that being said he's a very physical guy and likes to hit.

Its just Panthers have Richard Marshall and CJ Wilson, not to mention Chris Gamble locked down as a starter, so really they don't need to spend 9 million on a guy who might not start in the new year.

I think he'll get restructured, or cut.

HawkeyeFan
02-09-2009, 03:17 PM
Yeah, but the directiont hat Billy Deaveny and Steve Spagnuolo are taking this team, there won't be much need.


Billy D was on the radio was said that he isn't going to sign any veterans to try to get one more win into the season. He said there going to build the team so that we dont' go and have one great season and then go back into 2 bad seasons in a row, but that they want to build the team so that the team has good years consistanty and if that requires not signing veterans right now, then so be it. He wants to get younger, not older. There going to look for players in there prime, or about to hit there prime. Not ending or past there prime.

Gay Ork Wang
02-09-2009, 03:29 PM
For the Lions: Multialo, Campbell the TE and Leigh Bodden as well as that WR Furrey

TitleTown088
02-09-2009, 03:42 PM
For the Lions: Multialo, Campbell the TE and Leigh Bodden as well as that WR Furrey

The Cleveland trade worked out great.

Menardo75
02-09-2009, 04:09 PM
If there is a god then Barry Sims.

gpngc
02-09-2009, 04:13 PM
This thread quickly became "who do you not want on your team anymore?"

twista6002
02-09-2009, 04:20 PM
Pacman was already cut a while ago

Yatta!
02-09-2009, 04:28 PM
Jarrett Bush hopefully.

He is an RFA so hopefully he doesn't get a qualifying offer.

TitleTown088
02-09-2009, 04:33 PM
Giants cut Madison, Knight, and Droughns.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2009/02/09/2009-02-09_giants_resign_david_carr_cut_madison_kni.html

T-RICH49
02-09-2009, 04:37 PM
LJ may be cut. But in the end I think he remains a Chief. I will not speculate any further. Only official cuts guys!

there is no chance LJ remains a Chief.he'll restructure his deal then get cut IMO

keylime_5
02-09-2009, 04:44 PM
WR Donte Stallworth for sure, maybe DT Shaun Smith, and possibly Ryan Tucker but I kinda hope not.

Captain Canuck
02-09-2009, 04:45 PM
Can cuts be signed before free agency starts?

SaintsMan
02-09-2009, 04:51 PM
Isn't Leigh Bodden a man corner? I'm hoping the Saints take a look at him.

art vandelay
02-09-2009, 05:09 PM
Browns | Four players waived
Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:55:47 -0800

Zac Jackson, of ClevelandBrowns.com, reports the Cleveland Browns have waived QB Bruce Gradkowski, P Mike Dragosavich, PK Jason Reda and OT Eric Young.

art vandelay
02-09-2009, 05:10 PM
Lions | Five players officially released
Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:16:35 -0800

The Detroit Lions have announced they have released TE Dan Campbell, OT Jon Dunn, WR Mike Furrey, OG Edwin Mulitalo and FS Dwight Smith.

Lions | Bodden officially released
Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:16:59 -0800

The Detroit Lions have announced they have released CB Leigh Bodden.

art vandelay
02-09-2009, 05:18 PM
Browns | Three players contracts' terminated
Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:10:40 -0800

Zac Jackson, of ClevelandBrowns.com, reports the Cleveland Browns have terminated the contract of QB Ken Dorsey, LB Antwan Peek and CB Terry Cousin.

holt_bruce81
02-09-2009, 05:19 PM
Lions | Five players officially released
Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:16:35 -0800

The Detroit Lions have announced they have released TE Dan Campbell, OT Jon Dunn, WR Mike Furrey, OG Edwin Mulitalo and FS Dwight Smith.

Lions | Bodden officially released
Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:16:59 -0800

The Detroit Lions have announced they have released CB Leigh Bodden.

Mike Furrey, what happened to him last year? Mike Martz leaving?

brat316
02-09-2009, 05:43 PM
so far no big names...but its still early

D-Unit
02-09-2009, 07:32 PM
Waiting for Roy Williams (the safety)

vikes_28
02-09-2009, 07:52 PM
Matt Birk will be cut

SMoore
02-09-2009, 07:56 PM
Isn't Leigh Bodden a man corner? I'm hoping the Saints take a look at him.

Isn't he a cover-2 guy?

bearsfan_51
02-09-2009, 08:08 PM
Nathan Vasher will very likely be cut.

DJC
02-09-2009, 08:14 PM
Isn't he a cover-2 guy?
Not at all. He excelled in man coverage in Cleveland before this season, then he was traded to the Lions where he struggled terribly in the cover 2.

TitleTown088
02-09-2009, 08:27 PM
Not many are going to agree with me, butI could see an outside chance of Chad Clifton getting cut before Feb 26th.

bearsfan_51
02-09-2009, 08:29 PM
Not many are going to agree with me, butI could see an outside chance of Chad Clifton getting cut before Feb 26th.

I could see it, but it's not like the Packers are loaded at the position. They need to draft his replacement though.

TitleTown088
02-09-2009, 08:42 PM
I could see it, but it's not like the Packers are loaded at the position. They need to draft his replacement though.

I think Colledge could replace him just fine. Like you said, the Packers could very well take a LT at #9 in this upcoming draft too. I've seen he is owed a roster bonus of over 2mil, and if he's on the roster when the season begins he's owed over 8 mil. That's a lot of dinero for a declining player with no knees.

LonghornsLegend
02-09-2009, 09:55 PM
Waiting for Roy Williams (the safety)

Him, Greg Ellis, TO, that would be a fresh start :)

art vandelay
02-09-2009, 10:03 PM
Matt Birk will be cut

Birk is an unrestricted FA...

Im_a_Romosexual
02-09-2009, 11:17 PM
Him, Greg Ellis, TO, that would be a fresh start :)

Add Brad Johnson *Crosses Fingers*

or he could retire after proving he sucks

Solomon
02-10-2009, 01:56 AM
Anyone think Bodden could go back to the Browns?

Sveen
02-10-2009, 06:02 AM
Browns released QB Bruce Gradkowski, CB Terry Cousin, K Jason Reda, P Mike Dragosavich, and OL Eric Young.

Source: Rotoworld

Go_Eagles77
02-10-2009, 06:13 AM
Waiting for Roy Williams (the safety)
But he's just 1 year removed from the probowl!

LonghornsLegend
02-10-2009, 07:20 AM
Add Brad Johnson *Crosses Fingers*

or he could retire after proving he sucks

Brad Johnson is as good as gone, he'll cost too much and no doubt be even worse then last year, I just think were waiting to find another option at QB but I doubt we bring him back...The rest I'm just hopeful on lol.

Sniper
02-10-2009, 08:36 AM
Waiting for Roy Williams (the safety)

No! Please keep him around!

Flippityskip91
02-10-2009, 09:31 AM
Anyone think Bodden could go back to the Browns?

That's actually a pretty common train of thought among Cleveland fans. I personally don't really like the idea, but it is a possibility.

Sniper
02-10-2009, 09:37 AM
With Joselio Hanson possibly walking, I probably wouldn't be too angry at the thought of Bodden on the Eagles.

thebow305
02-10-2009, 09:42 AM
Him, Greg Ellis, TO, that would be a fresh start :)

What are the chances Greg Ellis gets cut, because I would love to have him in Miami.

Flippityskip91
02-10-2009, 09:43 AM
With Joselio Hanson possibly walking, I probably wouldn't be too angry at the thought of Bodden on the Eagles.

And that would probably work out pretty well for Philly if they decided to go that route. Bodden is good in man coverage, and we all know that they love to blitz...so he'd fit right in.

His last season in Cleveland he was injured the whole time, and we had no pass rush. That's why I don't want him back, everyone gets hurt in Cleveland, and I don't really foresee us suddenly blitzing every play.

Splat
02-10-2009, 02:03 PM
http://www.kffl.com/team/21/nfl

Chiefs | Releasing Surtain would clear cap space
Sat, 07 Feb 2009 07:01:38 -0800

Adam Teicher (http://www.kffl.com/link/143), of The Kansas City Star (http://www.kffl.com/link/142), reports the Kansas City Chiefs (http://www.kffl.com/team/21/nfl) would save an additional $3.8 million against their cap by releasing CB Patrick Surtain (http://www.kffl.com/player/1017/nfl), who is due a $7 million salary.

IceKubes
02-10-2009, 03:32 PM
Texans cut RB Ahman Green and OLB Morlon Greenwood.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=5141

PackerLegend
02-10-2009, 04:48 PM
Texans cut RB Ahman Green and OLB Morlon Greenwood.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=5141

So I wonder what Packers fans are still angry that we didnt give Ahman Green the money the Texans did. That worked out well.

D-Unit
02-10-2009, 05:13 PM
So I wonder what Packers fans are still angry that we didnt give Ahman Green the money the Texans did. That worked out well.
Now they are angry that the Packers spent their money on Ryan Grant. :p

diabsoule
02-10-2009, 05:16 PM
Lions | Colletto leaves team
Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:41:21 -0800

Tom Kowalski, of MLive.com, reports former Detroit Lions offensive coordinator Jim Colletto has left the team. Colletto said the split with the Lions was a mutual agreement.

49ers | Plan to release Jennings
Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:33:25 -0800

Matt Maiocco, of The Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports the San Francisco 49ers plan to release OT Jonas Jennings, according to sources. The 49ers would save $3.108 million in salary cap space.

Jets | Barnett released
Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:12:47 -0800

The New York Jets have announced they have released CB David Barrett.

diabsoule
02-10-2009, 05:17 PM
Isn't Leigh Bodden a man corner? I'm hoping the Saints take a look at him.

I'm hoping the Saints don't just look at him but sign him. We need him on our team.

diabsoule
02-10-2009, 05:25 PM
Per ESPN txt msg, the Raiders have claimed Bruce Gradkowski off waivers.

Menardo75
02-10-2009, 05:33 PM
49ers | Plan to release Jennings
Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:33:25 -0800
Matt Maiocco, of The Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports the San Francisco 49ers plan to release OT Jonas Jennings, according to sources. The 49ers would save $3.108 million in salary cap space.

There is a god :)

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
02-10-2009, 06:10 PM
Didn't see if anyone had posted this.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5i3_HkwlBUqoX2yFxw7yg3nSI-gBg

Giants resigned David Carr, but they released Sammy Knight, Sam Madison, and Reuben Droughns.

Splat
02-10-2009, 06:14 PM
Jets release DB Barrett (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txjetsbarrett&prov=st&type=lgns)

twista6002
02-10-2009, 06:36 PM
With Joselio Hanson possibly walking, I probably wouldn't be too angry at the thought of Bodden on the Eagles.

Yea but he'd probably ask for a large contract and be on a team in which he'd play. I'd rather invest our money in a more meaningful position. Remember we have Jack Ike coming back next year and he was considered a 1st rounder. Plus the last Wisconsin corner to play for us was pretty damn good.

Sniper
02-10-2009, 06:38 PM
Yea but he'd probably ask for a large contract and be on a team in which he'd play. I'd rather invest our money in a more meaningful position. Remember we have Jack Ike coming back next year and he was considered a 1st rounder. Plus the last Wisconsin corner to play for us was pretty damn good.

I love Jack Ikegwuonu, but banking on essentially a rookie coming off a torn ACL to be your nickelback in this scheme is a bit much.

twista6002
02-10-2009, 06:40 PM
I love Jack Ikegwuonu, but banking on essentially a rookie coming off a torn ACL to be your nickelback in this scheme is a bit much.

It's not that ridiculous, especially considering the guy has 1st round talent. Plus, Bodden would cost too much. We used a pick of Jack Ike we might as well see if he's worth it.

Go_Eagles77
02-10-2009, 06:44 PM
Nickel CB is a big role, I think the eagles really should re-sign Hanson and let Ikegwuonu be the dime, and go from there.

TheBuffaloBills
02-10-2009, 07:51 PM
T.O. to Oakland? That would be wow worthy:

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/02/10/could-terrell-owens-wind-up-in-oakland/

Brent
02-10-2009, 07:59 PM
T.O. to Oakland? That would be wow worthy:

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/02/10/could-terrell-owens-wind-up-in-oakland/
that whole article is built upon speculation

Menardo75
02-10-2009, 08:00 PM
T.O. to Oakland? That would be wow worthy:

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/02/10/could-terrell-owens-wind-up-in-oakland/

It's PFT bro.

Chief49er
02-10-2009, 08:25 PM
49ers cut safety Keith Lewis and linebacker Tully Banta-Cain.


http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/49ers/archives/019493.html?mi_rss=49ers%20Blog%20and%20Q%26A

The 49ers today cut ties with safety Keith Lewis and linebacker Tully Banta-Cain. Lewis, who played at Valley High School in Sacramento, originally was a sixth-round pick out of Oregon in 2004. He started nine games in 2006 but mostly was considered a special teams standout who specialized in blocked punts.

Banta-Cain, meanwhile, was a free-agent acquisition in 2007. He did not provide the pass-rush ability the 49ers expected that season and he had to agree to a sizeable pay cut to remain with San Francisco in 2008. Both Lewis and Banta-Cain play positions the 49ers hope to upgrade this offseason. The team also made a waiver claim for former Buccaneers and Browns quarterback Bruce Gradkowski, but he was awarded instead to the Raiders who finished 2008 with a worse record.

ShyneQuasiOG22
02-11-2009, 01:49 AM
Nickel CB is a big role, I think the eagles really should re-sign Hanson and let Ikegwuonu be the dime, and go from there.

Just a question but are you going on the assumption that we trade Lito? I figure he will be traded but you never know if there isn't a good offer we could keep him.

Go_Eagles77
02-11-2009, 06:02 AM
Just a question but are you going on the assumption that we trade Lito? I figure he will be traded but you never know if there isn't a good offer we could keep him.
Either trade or cut, I really don't think he'll be around next year.

Flippityskip91
02-11-2009, 06:52 AM
It's not that ridiculous, especially considering the guy has 1st round talent. Plus, Bodden would cost too much. We used a pick of Jack Ike we might as well see if he's worth it.

I find it unlikely that Bodden would cost much. Mid-level contract would probably do it since he hasn't done much in over a year. It's not like he's gonna break the bank on his next deal, and if he does, well whoever signs him is making a mistake.

Geo
02-11-2009, 10:28 AM
Just a question but are you going on the assumption that we trade Lito? I figure he will be traded but you never know if there isn't a good offer we could keep him.
I'll be surprised if the Eagles get anything better than a 4th round pick for Sheppard at this point.

SaintsMan
02-11-2009, 10:52 AM
I'm hoping the Saints don't just look at him but sign him. We need him on our team.

Definitely. We would have a solid group of corners even if McKenzie doesn't return to form or moves to Safety.

diabsoule
02-11-2009, 02:11 PM
I'll be surprised if the Eagles get anything better than a 4th round pick for Sheppard at this point.

So do I. Asking anything more than a 4th round for Lito is ludicrous in my opinion.

Go_Eagles77
02-11-2009, 02:17 PM
I'd be very happy with a 4th rounder for Lito, kinda sucks that we probably could have got a 2nd rounder for him last year though.

diabsoule
02-11-2009, 03:03 PM
Jaguars have released CB Drayton Florence and WR Jerry Porter

brat316
02-11-2009, 03:05 PM
Jaguars release Porter...WHY they gave him such a big contract and was suppose to be the answer at WR.

Last year was suppose to be the Jags year the even traded up for that DE from Flordia....Hargrove.

RaiderNation
02-11-2009, 03:06 PM
Jaguars have released CB Drayton Florence and WR Jerry Porter

I feel bad for Porter. He seemed like he could have been a pro bowler when he was younger. Injuries hurt him.

brat316
02-11-2009, 03:10 PM
I feel bad for Porter. He seemed like he could have been a pro bowler when he was younger. Injuries hurt him.

No the Raiders and Al Davis hurt him.

diabsoule
02-11-2009, 03:44 PM
I actually want the Saints to take a hard look at both, although I think Porter might be washed up. If the Saints could get Bodden and Florence we'd have a very nice DB rotation w/ Porter, McKenzie, Randall ***, and Usama Young. Of course, we'd have to cut Jason David.

TitanHope
02-11-2009, 04:06 PM
Last year was suppose to be the Jags year the even traded up for that DE from Flordia....Hargrove.

Ok, you did this on purpose, right?

Splat
02-11-2009, 04:13 PM
I think Porter might be washed up.

He was never that good I can't believe he got that big of a deal.

brat316
02-11-2009, 04:20 PM
Ok, you did this on purpose, right?

NO...i seriously had no idea what his name was now I know its Harvey. now who the hell is Hargrove...I'll be back.


Edit: now I know who I was talking about.

http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nfl/players/65/5616.jpg

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/headshot/H/A/R/HAR771312.jpg

TitanHope
02-11-2009, 04:28 PM
NO...i seriously had no idea what his name was now I know its Harvey. now who the hell is Hargrove...I'll be back.

I'm pretty sure you're combining the names of Derrick Harvey and Quentin Groves, the Jags 1st and 2nd RD picks in '08. Combined their last names to create Hargrove...

gpngc
02-11-2009, 05:14 PM
Here is a list of guys currently under contract who could switch teams this offseason.

Blue= change is imminent.
Purple= change is likely.
Everyone else is just speculation.

Patriots
QB Matt Cassel (Franchised)
DT Vince Wilfork (Seeking new contract, could re-structure)

Ravens
CB Samari Rolle (Cap casualty)
RB Willis McGahee (Cap Casualty)

Bengals
WR Chad Johnson (Trade)

Browns
WR Donte Stallworth (Cap casualty)
WR Joe Jurevicius (Cap casualty)
WR Braylon Edwards (UFA in 2010)
RB Jamal Lewis (Due large bonus, could re-structure)
TE Kellen Winslow (Trade)

Colts
WR Marvin Harrison (Cap casualty, could re-structure)

Jaguars
RB Fred Taylor (Cap casualty, could re-structure)

Broncos
DT Dewayne Robertson (Cap casualty, could re-structure)

Chiefs
RB Larry Johnson (Trade)
TE Tony Gonzalez (Trade)
CB Patrick Surtain (Cap casualty)

Raiders
FB Justin Griffith (Cap casualty)
WR Javon Walker (Trade, contract isn't bad)
DT Terdell Sands (Cap casualty, punched Lechler in the face)
CB Justin Miller (Cap casualty)
FS Michael Huff (Cap casualty, bust)

Chargers
RB LaDainian Tomlinson (Trade, could re-structure)

Cowboys
QB Brad Johnson (Cap casualty)
WR Terrell Owens (Trade, cap casualty)
SS Roy Williams (Cap casualty)
LB Greg Ellis (Cap casualty)

Giants
WR Plaxico Burress (Shot himself in the thigh)

Eagles
QB Donovan McNabb (Trade)
CB Lito Sheppard (Trade)

Redskins
DE Jason Taylor (Cap casualty, could re-structure)
LB Marcus Washington (Cap casualty)
CB Carlos Rogers (Trade)

Bears
DE Adewale Ogunleye (Cap casualty)
CB Nathan Vasher (Trade, cap casualty)

Lions
QB Daunte Culpepper (Cap casualty)
QB Jon Kitna (Cap casualty)
CB Keith Smith (Cap casualty)
OG Edwin Mulitalo (Cap casualty)
TE Mark Campbell (Cap casualty)

Packers
CB Al Harris (Trade, cap casualty)

Falcons
LB Keith Brooking (Trade, cap casualty)

Panthers
WR D.J. Hackett (Cap casaulty)
CB Ken Lucas (Cap casualty)
LB Landon Johnson (Cap casualty)

Saints
RB Deuce McAllister (Cap casualty)
CB Jason David (Cap casualty)
CB Mike McKenzie (Cap casualty, could re-structure)

Buccaneers
WR Joey Galloway (Cap casualty)
LB Derrick Brooks (Cap casualty)

Cardinals
RB Edgerrin James (Cap casualty)
WR Anquan Boldin (Trade)

Seahawks
WR Deion Branch (Cap casualty)
LB Julian Peterson (Cap casualty)
FS Brian Russell (Cap casualty)

49ers
FS Mark Roman (Cap casualty)
OT Jonas Jennings (Cap casualty)
QB Alex Smith (likely re-structure)

Rams
QB Trent Green (Cap casualty)
TE Randy McMichael (Cap casualty)
LB Pisa Tinoisamoa (Cap casualty)
DE Leonard Little (Cap casualty, trade)
WR Torry Holt (Trade)
OT Orlando Pace (Trade)
DT La'Roi Glover
DT Claude Wroten

Who am I missing? I'll edit this post.

Geo
02-11-2009, 05:26 PM
I have to think something needs to happen with Marvin Harrison. Either he takes a major pay cut, or finds a new team to play for.

BlindSite
02-11-2009, 05:29 PM
Panthers
WR D.J. Hackett (Cap casaulty)
CB Ken Lucas (Cap casualty)


Who am I missing? I'll edit this post.

Add Landon Johnson who was a useless acquisition at Linebacker to immenent and Ken Lucas to your list as likely

Geo
02-11-2009, 05:31 PM
Wow, did you really need to quote that whole post?

BlindSite
02-11-2009, 05:33 PM
Wow, did you really need to quote that whole post?

Sorry, I meant to edit it down.

gameplaya2435
02-11-2009, 05:48 PM
Hands off D-Mac

PACKmanN
02-11-2009, 07:52 PM
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Packers
CB Al Harris (Trade, cap casualty)


If we trade or cut Al it isn't because of cap its because of his age and the scheme change. He isn't a zone CB.

Sveen
02-12-2009, 05:26 PM
New Orleans Saints release veteran wide receiver David Patten (http://www.nola.com/saints/)

wicket
02-12-2009, 05:28 PM
New Orleans Saints release veteran wide receiver David Patten (http://www.nola.com/saints/)

that was to be expected

DiG
02-12-2009, 06:02 PM
Redskins
DE Jason Taylor (Cap casualty, could re-structure)
LB Marcus Washington (Cap casualty)
CB Carlos Rogers (Trade)


CB Shawn Springs - probably restructure but could be a cap casualty otherwise depending on what direction the skins go at cb

DT Cornelius Griffin - possible cap casualty

TitleTown088
02-12-2009, 06:31 PM
Now they are angry that the Packers spent their money on Ryan Grant. :p

Considering his contract is mostly incentive based, not at all.

twista6002
02-13-2009, 12:51 AM
^No way in hell McNabb gets traded.

Sniper
02-13-2009, 06:54 AM
McNabb is not getting traded. Jeffrey Lurie has already stated that McNabb and Reid will be back for the '09 season.

ATLDirtyBirds
02-13-2009, 07:08 AM
Keith Brooking is more then likely gone.

themaninblack
02-13-2009, 11:01 AM
Is Marcus Washington still worth anything? I haven't heard about him in awhile and he seems like he could be a nice FA pickup.

Bigburt63
02-13-2009, 11:09 AM
Patriots
QB Matt Cassel (Franchised)
DT Vince Wilfork (Seeking new contract, could re-structure)



No way we trade Wilfork, and that is the onyl way he moves teams this offseason.

Kurve
02-13-2009, 11:32 AM
No the Raiders and Al Davis hurt him.

no it was more so that he played lazy on the field when he did play, very inconsistent he always never could stay healthy

HawkeyeFan
02-13-2009, 03:18 PM
Corey Chavous was hurt today, he'll land somewhere on a cheap one year deal.

bearsfan_51
02-13-2009, 03:21 PM
Bears cut Marty Booker-WR today.

nfrillman
02-13-2009, 04:20 PM
Rams
QB Trent Green (Cap casualty)
TE Randy McMichael (Cap casualty)
LB Pisa Tinoisamoa (Cap casualty)
DE Leonard Little (Cap casualty, trade)
WR Torry Holt (Trade)
OT Orlando Pace (Trade)

Who am I missing? I'll edit this post.

If Holt leaves it will most likely be a release, I say it's likely he will be cut.

Pace is also more likely to be cut than traded, though him being cut is less likely than Holt.

Corey Chavous was released today. http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2009/02/stlouis-rams-cut-safety-corey-chavous/

La'roi GLover and Claude Wroten are also possible cuts.

PACKmanN
02-13-2009, 04:48 PM
Glover could be an interesting addition for the Packers.

M.O.T.H.
02-13-2009, 04:51 PM
Glover could be an interesting addition for the Packers.

34 year old Glover isnt about to go play in a defensive scheme that he doesnt fit in. He'll probably retire anyway.

BigJohn98
02-16-2009, 11:11 AM
I don't have a link because it's breaking news. Fred will be released today. It's all over Jacksonville radio right now. Apparently there is a press confrence at 1:30 today to announce this. I do not like this at all.

Geo
02-16-2009, 11:15 AM
Here's a link. (http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=131459&catid=17)

I still think Freddy T has a little football left, and wouldn't at all mind him coming to the Colts for a year or two. Help teach Joseph Addai and Mike Hart a couple of things, and get a chance at a ring for himself.

But this doesn't change his great career with Jacksonville, where they'll eventually put him in the Ring of Honor.

Splat
02-16-2009, 11:16 AM
Wow didn't see this coming.

Gay Ork Wang
02-16-2009, 11:16 AM
come to chicago!

drowe
02-16-2009, 11:27 AM
surprising...so surprising, in fact, that when i read the thread title i thought "huh, i didn't even know he was arrested."

FlyingElvis
02-16-2009, 11:30 AM
It's not mentioned in the linked article, but I'm assuming it's a money issue b/c he is probably due a roster bonus +/- a high cap number this year. Hopefully for Fred and the Jags faithful this will play out the same way it did for the Patriots and Troy Brown.

T-RICH49
02-16-2009, 11:32 AM
get rid of LJ bring in Freddy T

CashmoneyDrew
02-16-2009, 11:37 AM
Yeah, I'm willing to bet he resigns with the Jaguars with a cheaper price than what he was going to make.

killxswitch
02-16-2009, 11:45 AM
I hope he goes somewhere else and stays the hell out of the AFC South. It feels like half of his 11K+ yards came against the Colts.

BeerBaron
02-16-2009, 12:08 PM
I'm the Jags in the forum mock and I'm totally not surprised. They've already released the dead weight that is Jerry Porter and Drayton Florence to clear up a few million bucks, and Fred is another. Due like 6 mil i think though....so I'm not surprised.

I think there might even be a chance of him coming back if he takes a steep pay cut. I think there will be other interest in him though....he'll make a great 2nd back to 90% of the teams in the league.

LonghornsLegend
02-16-2009, 12:09 PM
MJD is ready for an expanded role, he's been a monster thus far in his career and has shown he is an all around back, I think they should look for a change of pace guy in the middle rounds but let MJD take over the reigns.

HawkeyeFan
02-16-2009, 12:43 PM
Come to St. LOUIS!! :O

RaiderNation
02-16-2009, 12:49 PM
I expect New England to go after him. Maybe the Colts too

umphrey
02-16-2009, 12:53 PM
The Packers should sign him and use him and Grant. They probably won't though.

HawkeyeFan
02-16-2009, 12:58 PM
Few teams I can see going after him:

Seahawks
Cardinals (IF they lose Edge)
Patriots
Texans
Raiders

brat316
02-16-2009, 01:02 PM
So does this now make Fred Taylor the most sought after FA?

Before it was Darren Sproles since Jacobs got franchised but with the release of Fred Taylor he moves to number one, even with his age.

RaiderNation
02-16-2009, 01:03 PM
Few teams I can see going after him:
Raiders

Why? We have McFadden, Bush and Fargas. All 3 are starting caliber RB's

RaiderNation
02-16-2009, 01:05 PM
So does this now make Fred Taylor the most sought after FA?

.

Albert Haynesworth is still a F/A. Nobody is going to pay high for a old RB that has maybe 2 or 3 decent years left

HawkeyeFan
02-16-2009, 01:10 PM
Why? We have McFadden, Bush and Fargas. All 3 are starting caliber RB's

Because Al Davis is your owner..

Shane P. Hallam
02-16-2009, 01:10 PM
Only two RBs at 33 or over have had 1,000 yards rushing in a season. I'm not sure how sought after he will be.

Assuming Edge is released, who ends up in the better situation? Freddy or Edge?

TitleTown088
02-16-2009, 01:16 PM
The Packers should sign him and use him and Grant. They probably won't though.

No they shouldn't. I Don't want to see carries taken away from either of the two, or see a guy like Lumpkin's/draft pick roster stop taken by a 33 year old RB.

Shane P. Hallam
02-16-2009, 01:29 PM
"Free agent Fred Taylor revealed that he offered to take a pay cut before the Jaguars released him on Monday."

I wouldn't expect him to be resigned.


http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2009-02-16/story/fred_taylor_released_from_jaguars

BigJohn98
02-16-2009, 01:36 PM
Gene Smith said he would not be brought back with a cut in pay.

ShyneQuasiOG22
02-16-2009, 01:39 PM
My money would be on the Patriots picking him up. Personally I would love for the Eagles to sign him as Westbrook's backup, he would complement him perfectly.

Bengalsrocket
02-16-2009, 01:46 PM
Bengals wouldn't mind him =/

umphrey
02-16-2009, 01:46 PM
So does this now make Fred Taylor the most sought after FA?

Before it was Darren Sproles since Jacobs got franchised but with the release of Fred Taylor he moves to number one, even with his age.

He's the guy every fan wants. But I'm sure only a few teams will even talk to him, unlike Suggs or Haynesworth that get calls from every team with some money to spend.

keylime_5
02-16-2009, 01:47 PM
Fantasy football wise, MJD's stock just went up a good bit.

Donno
02-16-2009, 02:00 PM
I love how this turned into an extreme homer thread haha

yourfavestoner
02-16-2009, 02:06 PM
I just died a little bit on the inside.

tjsunstein
02-16-2009, 03:00 PM
Im guessing he's gonna re-sign but if he doesn't he'll find work somewhere else. Maybe Arizona??

killxswitch
02-16-2009, 03:12 PM
Im guessing he's gonna re-sign but if he doesn't he'll find work somewhere else. Maybe Arizona??

So what, out with the old and in with the old?

CashmoneyDrew
02-16-2009, 03:13 PM
So what, out with the old and in with the old?

More like out with the old, in with the older.

Shahin
02-16-2009, 03:37 PM
Because Al Davis is your owner..

Touche, sir. Touche.

Edit: Actually on the subject, I wouldn't mind the Bengals makin' a run at him, even though I don't think he'd even be interested in coming.

Bostonsportlova
02-16-2009, 03:41 PM
Fred Taylor would compliment Maroney very well, just like Dillion complimented Maroney when he was a rookie. And resign Jordan or Morris, pats would have a solid backfield

PACKmanN
02-16-2009, 03:45 PM
he could go to Miami and replace Ricky's role since he will be a FA. Plus he lived in Florida his entire life I believe.

Menardo75
02-16-2009, 03:45 PM
This didn't surprise me at all. I figured it was a matter of time before it happened. Due to his health, age, and, money.

Shane P. Hallam
02-16-2009, 03:45 PM
I think it will be interesting to see where he ends up, especially if teams can choose between him, Edge, along with other RBs on the market possibly (Derrick Ward, Maurice Morris, Dominic Rhodes, Ricky Williams)

Splat
02-16-2009, 03:50 PM
Fantasy football wise, MJD's stock just went up a good bit.

They will have to bring in some one to help him I don't think MJD is big enough to carry the load by his self.

619
02-16-2009, 03:53 PM
Because Al Davis is your owner..

Still, that makes little sense ...

brat316
02-16-2009, 03:57 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80ec4933&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

Chris Mcallister Cut


Why didn't Rolle get cut

Menardo75
02-16-2009, 04:41 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80ec4933&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

Chris Mcallister Cut


Why didn't Rolle get cut

Sounds like that's what all the Baltimore fans are wondering.

The Unseen
02-16-2009, 05:07 PM
what the hell? seriously. I guess the move makes sense, but what the hell?

Shane P. Hallam
02-16-2009, 05:10 PM
I am surprised that others are surprised by this. It was essentially announced at the end of the year I remember, lol.

Paranoidmoonduck
02-16-2009, 05:45 PM
Yeah, I'm willing to bet he resigns with the Jaguars with a cheaper price than what he was going to make.

He and his agent already offered the Jags a fairly significant pay cut to stay on the team. If he plays in 2009, and I expect him to, it won't be in Jacksonville.

Shane P. Hallam
02-16-2009, 06:34 PM
He and his agent already offered the Jags a fairly significant pay cut to stay on the team. If he plays in 2009, and I expect him to, it won't be in Jacksonville.

He's playing. He has already commented that he is excited about his first time in free agency.

JT Jag
02-16-2009, 06:35 PM
Farewell, Freddy T. You were the best of us.

yourfavestoner
02-16-2009, 06:52 PM
I hope he goes to a Superbowl contender to finish out his career. He deserves it. He and Westbrook could be a devastating combo in Philly.

In the right situation, Fred's got another 1000 yard season left in him, maybe two. Remember that he's got a lot less tread on his tires than the average 33 year old runningback. He's only had one season with more than 300 carries in his entire career.

e-mac
02-16-2009, 07:35 PM
http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=8843
Broncos cut 6
John Engelberger, Nate Jackson, Niko Koutouvides, Marquand Manuel, DeWayne Robertson and Jamie Winborn.
...all never to be seen again I hope, maybe Robertson has a job on a 4-3 team but any of those other players shouldn't be allowed NFL jerseys maybe I'm still bitter but these cuts were and addition by subtraction for the Broncos.

Flyboy
02-16-2009, 08:05 PM
Beanie Wells/MJD imo.

The Unseen
02-16-2009, 08:22 PM
Beanie Wells/MJD imo.

no. Greg Jones is a good enough #2 who we've already invested in.

PackerLegend
02-16-2009, 10:55 PM
http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=8843
Broncos cut 6
John Engelberger, Nate Jackson, Niko Koutouvides, Marquand Manuel, DeWayne Robertson and Jamie Winborn.

dude seriously Marquand was a beast on the Packers :D He blew at everything but did manage one int return for a TD against the Lions.... who tipped it you ask, Ahmad Carroll. Talk about a ****ing miracle on that day for those two awful awful players to make one good play.

jth1331
02-16-2009, 11:46 PM
I think its kind of funny how many people want him on their team. He probably has 1 okay season in him, maybe it will be a decent/good year, but thats it I see from him.
I'd rather spend a day one pick on a RB than sign Taylor.

Scotty D
02-17-2009, 04:19 AM
So are cut players free to sign whenever? Or do they have to wait for free agency. Lions want Chris McAllistor!

DJC
02-17-2009, 07:16 AM
So are cut players free to sign whenever? Or do they have to wait for free agency. Lions want Chris McAllistor!

Wait till FA. Only people that can be signed now are those that were not in the league last season.

nobodyinparticular
02-17-2009, 11:14 AM
I think its kind of funny how many people want him on their team. He probably has 1 okay season in him, maybe it will be a decent/good year, but thats it I see from him.
I'd rather spend a day one pick on a RB than sign Taylor.

Why not both? Few rookie RBs have the kind of season that Peterson had a year ago--and even he had Chester Taylor. So it makes sense to have a veteran who can perform well for that first year or year and a half. Have them split the carries evenly, mix it up a little bit. Then start to increase the role of the young player.

More good RBs is ALWAYS better than fewer good RBs.

bored of education
02-17-2009, 11:17 AM
Farewell, Freddy T. You were the best of us.

:( :( :( sorry for your loss folks :( :( Fredrick Taylor was a beast. He will be missed.

MJD4Lyfe!

SaintsFanForLife
02-17-2009, 11:27 AM
Saints have released running back Deuce McAllister, according to the New Orleans Times-Picayune.

wicket
02-17-2009, 11:36 AM
Saints have released running back Deuce McAllister, according to the New Orleans Times-Picayune.

it hurts but it had to be done

Hamptorf
02-17-2009, 11:42 AM
Giants
WR Plaxico Burress (Shot himself in the thigh)


hahaha I laughed so hard when i read this.

Splat
02-17-2009, 12:31 PM
Saints have released running back Deuce McAllister, according to the New Orleans Times-Picayune.

Link

Saints release RB Deuce McAllister (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-saints-mcallisterreleased&prov=ap&type=lgns)

It was bound to happen when they gave Bush all that money DM was for sure going to be the odd man out in time.

Brown Leader
02-17-2009, 12:32 PM
I expect New England to go after him. Maybe the Colts too

Exactly. Its NE.

Hines
02-17-2009, 12:37 PM
I hate saying this, but I hope he goes to the Browns. He could take Lewis' carries and help turn around that team. I would love him on the Steelers, but with Mendenhall, Parker, Russell, and Moore, he would have no room or carries.

I think he ends up with either New England, Bengals, Browns, or even the Colts. Maybe the Texans to share carries with Slaton?

bored of education
02-17-2009, 12:38 PM
I think it will be interesting to see where he ends up, especially if teams can choose between him, Edge, along with other RBs on the market possibly (Derrick Ward, Maurice Morris, Dominic Rhodes, Ricky Williams)

That lone makes me think LJ will be staying in KC. Would a team rather sign a guy like above or give up a pick for LJ?

Menardo75
02-17-2009, 12:49 PM
I am seriously upset the Saints cut Deuce.

HawkeyeFan
02-17-2009, 01:04 PM
Glover could be an interesting addition for the Packers.
Alrighty then...if you want an undersized veteran tackle that gets pushed around, beat down easily and can't rush the Quarterback, then go get 'em!

Flyboy
02-17-2009, 01:14 PM
it hurts but it had to be done

Agreed. The writing was on the wall. A part of me has died and is crying on the inside, but.. that's the business side of it.

*sigh*

Matthew Jones
02-17-2009, 01:17 PM
Saints drop Deuce

Bills2083
02-17-2009, 01:29 PM
edit: nevermind.

Komp
02-17-2009, 01:32 PM
Saints drop Deuce


Literally?

Geo
02-17-2009, 02:18 PM
I think its kind of funny how many people want him on their team. He probably has 1 okay season in him, maybe it will be a decent/good year, but thats it I see from him.
I'd rather spend a day one pick on a RB than sign Taylor.
I'd like to see him join the Colts, but don't get me wrong, I'd only sign Taylor (or Edge) if he came cheap. Much more than 1M, and I lose interest.

Joseph Addai makes 1.6-something-mil this year, there's no way I'm paying a vet back-up more than that.

Otherwise, I'd just as well have the Colts re-sign Dominic Rhodes again.

Menardo75
02-17-2009, 03:29 PM
Actually wouldn't mind him on the Niners. He would be a better complement than Foster.

Staggart
02-17-2009, 04:07 PM
with taylor gone do you think that greg jones will get some more carries? Hopefully in the hb spot

gpngc
02-17-2009, 07:49 PM
Broncos cut Dre Bly.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_11725085?source=rss

PACKmanN
02-17-2009, 08:08 PM
Broncos cut Dre Bly.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_11725085?source=rss

well there goes the best tandem in the league...

Nitschke-Hawk
02-17-2009, 08:08 PM
2 Macalisters cut in the same day, spelled differently.

Nitschke-Hawk
02-17-2009, 08:09 PM
well there goes the best tandem in the league...

That statement was always good for a laugh.

PackerLegend
02-18-2009, 04:23 PM
So does anyone know when free agency starts? Sometime in the early part of March I think.

Go_Eagles77
02-18-2009, 04:29 PM
So does anyone know when free agency starts? Sometime in the early part of March I think.
I think it's Feb. 27 this year. Next Friday.

Chief49er
02-18-2009, 08:26 PM
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/18/harrisons-indy-days-are-done/

tjsunstein
02-18-2009, 08:28 PM
Either he comes back at a discount or he retires and the Colts draft Harvin.

jballa838
02-18-2009, 08:31 PM
come to seattle!

BeerBaron
02-18-2009, 08:31 PM
Either he comes back at a discount or he retires and the Colts draft Harvin.

You know, I've heard a lot of Colts fans shoot down the idea of taking Harvin because "he's not a Colts type receiver" or something like that.

Well, they simply haven't been in a position to draft someone of that type of talent in a very long time. Injury concerns and not having a real position knock him down, so he could be ******* scary as a Colts slot guy.

scottyboy
02-18-2009, 08:40 PM
you know, he'd look good in a different shade of blue catching passes from another Manning...especially if Plaxico is gone/out for a while...hmmm

JRTPlaya21
02-18-2009, 08:40 PM
I'd gladly take you in Washington over Thomas & Kelly.

Hurricanes25
02-18-2009, 08:42 PM
He would look good in green.

thenewfeature06
02-18-2009, 08:42 PM
Raiders would welcome you

yourfavestoner
02-18-2009, 08:42 PM
you know, he'd look good in a different shade of blue catching passes from another Manning...especially if Plaxico is gone/out for a while...hmmm

Don't be fooled by his name. He's washed up. Ask any Colts fan who has watched him the past two seasons. If you can't produce when Peyton Manning is your quarterback, you're just not very good. Plus the dude absolutely disappears in the postseason.

Also, I am going to ******* kill somebody if Percy Harvin goes to the Colts.

scottyboy
02-18-2009, 08:44 PM
Don't be fooled by his name. He's washed up. Ask any Colts fan who has watched him the past two seasons. If you can't produce when Peyton Manning is your quarterback, you're just not very good. Plus the dude absolutely disappears in the postseason.

Also, I am going to ******* kill somebody if Percy Harvin goes to the Colts.

this is true, but if Plax is out with say, a 4 game suspension, Harrison would be a nice early fit, but I know it wont happen and doesn't even make ALL that much sense hah

PACKmanN
02-18-2009, 08:54 PM
i hope you guys realize he is no longer the same player he once was...

gramage
02-18-2009, 09:04 PM
Harrison isn't a number one any more thats obvious, and if you think he's gonna be an elite number two you'll be dissapointed as well. But he's still pretty quick and he's very good at finding openings so as a slot guy you rotate with your three reciever he can put a passing game over the top.

I think he'd be best in Atlanta. Roddy White to stretch the field, Michael Jenkins if resigned to use his body along the sideline (he did improve a lot last year) and Harrison in the slot. Improve the defence a bit and I think that puts the falcons in the top 3 of the NFC.

619
02-18-2009, 09:05 PM
Raiders would welcome you

I don't know if I would. I'd much rather give the two youngs guys a shot to start and see what they could do, unless you can convince me that we're going to compete anytime soon.

TitleTown088
02-18-2009, 09:05 PM
" come to my team"

Why? Stick a fork in him, he's done.

thenewfeature06
02-18-2009, 09:09 PM
yeah but we need anything availalble lol and marvin isn't a #1 he is just a veteran guy who knows how to play the game and then we can worry about developing our other options

619
02-18-2009, 09:10 PM
" come to my team"

Why? Stick a fork in him, he's done.

That's what I'm thinking. I don't know if he'll command much interest despite his credentials, tbh.

brat316
02-18-2009, 09:13 PM
Stick a fork under his knee cap and he's done.

I think if Indy goes WR it probably will be Nicks, they may even have a shot at DHB. But Indy has some solid back up, so they may not even address WR until later.

619
02-18-2009, 09:18 PM
Stick a fork under his knee cap and he's done.

I think if Indy goes WR it probably will be Nicks, they may even have a shot at DHB. But Indy has some solid back up, so they may not even address WR until later.

They don't really have much behind Wayne and Gonzalez ...

TitleTown088
02-18-2009, 09:21 PM
That's what I'm thinking. I don't know if he'll command much interest despite his credentials, tbh.

I'm not sure you can afford him anways after giving 12 mil to a punter. ha

Edit: and Jerry porter, again.

Geo
02-18-2009, 09:26 PM
He's had a Hall of Fame career with the Colts, but it's time to move on.

LonghornsLegend
02-18-2009, 09:27 PM
You know, I've heard a lot of Colts fans shoot down the idea of taking Harvin because "he's not a Colts type receiver" or something like that.

Well, they simply haven't been in a position to draft someone of that type of talent in a very long time. Injury concerns and not having a real position knock him down, so he could be ******* scary as a Colts slot guy.

Harvin is a play-maker but what concerns me is he hardly ever lined up as a traditional WR, all his highlights were in motion out of the backfield mostly, he is going to be incredibly raw at WR so I question his transition especially with the bust rate of Florida WR's.


I think DHB would be a better pick for the Colts, he's got some #1 WR potential when Wayne slows down and he's got the experience outside, with some versatility...Speed to go deep, great after the catch, more experience at WR, I think his upside is alot higher then Nicks so if I'm Indy I'd be looking at him.

Brodeur
02-18-2009, 09:29 PM
Marvin's a mediocre number 4 receiver at this point.

Smokey Joe
02-18-2009, 09:32 PM
It'd be cool if the first post in this thread was updated with all the cuts so far, but whatever.

Why was Bly cut? Not getting it done anymore or to save some cap?

TitleTown088
02-18-2009, 09:36 PM
It'd be cool if the first post in this thread was updated with all the cuts so far, but whatever.

Why was Bly cut? Not getting it done anymore or to save some cap?

Probably a combination of both, but mostly for cap.

MaxV
02-18-2009, 09:39 PM
If this is the end of Marvin's days as a Colt, I'm deeply grateful for everything he has done with this organization.

Top 5 WR of all time and that's a fact.

TitleTown088
02-18-2009, 09:43 PM
Top 5 WR of all time and that's a fact.
In the organization? Or overall?

Vikes99ej
02-18-2009, 09:43 PM
Uhhhhh... why do people want him?

Crickett
02-18-2009, 09:59 PM
Uhhhhh... why do people want him?

Because he's Marvin Harrison. Personally I want Marvin no where near the Jets and think he should retire. His best (or even moderately good) days are very clearly behind him. But he's not going to. They never do. Just ask Jerry Rice, the greatest ever.

holt_bruce81
02-18-2009, 09:59 PM
Why do so many of you want him on your team? He's not the Marvin Harrison of 2 years ago.

a-dub83
02-18-2009, 10:21 PM
Harvin is a beast, but our offense really doesn't have a lot of bells of whistles which Harvin is best suited for. The most likely targets for us at WR are Derrick Williams and Heyward-Bey. Williams I believe will be the pick because of the versatility he brings in the return game. Our return game has been wack for years.

PACKmanN
02-18-2009, 10:27 PM
It'd be cool if the first post in this thread was updated with all the cuts so far, but whatever.

Why was Bly cut? Not getting it done anymore or to save some cap?

has to be more of him not getting it done anymore which meant he wasn't living up to his massive contract. They are already weak in the DB area so it wasn't like they didn't need his services any longer.

LonghornsLegend
02-18-2009, 10:31 PM
Because he's Marvin Harrison. Personally I want Marvin no where near the Jets and think he should retire. His best (or even moderately good) days are very clearly behind him. But he's not going to. They never do. Just ask Jerry Rice, the greatest ever.

Yea but Jerry Rice is probably more explosive right now then Marvin Harrison is...Rice had two more seasons over 1100 yards after he left SF, Harrison is finished.

Crickett
02-18-2009, 10:34 PM
Yea but Jerry Rice is probably more explosive right now then Marvin Harrison is...Rice had two more seasons over 1100 yards after he left SF, Harrison is finished.

Yes, but what about after Rice left Oakland? ;)

Brodeur
02-18-2009, 10:36 PM
Yes, but what about after Rice left Oakland? ;)

Rice in Seattle > Harrison now.

gramage
02-18-2009, 10:44 PM
I didn't see much of Harrison this year so I'll defer to people who did, but can he really have nothing left to give? I'd be stunned if over two years he went from having elite quickness to not belonging on the field. I still think he's worth bringing in to see what he can do in the slot and share experience with younger recievers (not that I think he's a leader, just someone who can share experiences from every situation a player can find himself in.)

Geo
02-18-2009, 10:52 PM
You know, I've heard a lot of Colts fans shoot down the idea of taking Harvin because "he's not a Colts type receiver" or something like that.

Well, they simply haven't been in a position to draft someone of that type of talent in a very long time. Injury concerns and not having a real position knock him down, so he could be ******* scary as a Colts slot guy.
Can't say I have shot it down, bit of the opposite. In fact, my gut feeling is that Harvin is/will be the #3 receiver ranked on the Colts draft board and he'll be the BPA if he reaches their pick. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he is ranked higher than Peria Jerry, even.

The key is if Harvin tests out well in football IQ/character/psychologically, which I think he will despite the odds of his history (Florida Gators player, from Virginia). Also, let's see if Harvin measures in close to his listed numbers. Polian was down on DeSean Jackson because of his size, or at least that's what he said publically.

Though I'm kind of doubting he'll reach the Colts' pick. A guy like Peria Jerry could easily fall from the Bucs' pick at 19th overall to the Colts' pick, but almost every team in that range could potentially draft Harvin.

Brent
02-18-2009, 10:54 PM
Rice in Seattle > Harrison now.
Jerry Rice in Denver > Harrison now

Geo
02-18-2009, 11:00 PM
I didn't see much of Harrison this year so I'll defer to people who did, but can he really have nothing left to give? I'd be stunned if over two years he went from having elite quickness to not belonging on the field.
He's not what he once was, he's lost a step at least and it seems injuries could be more frequent, but Harrison can definitely still play in the NFL. I'm not fond of the guy, but there's no doubt in my mind about that.

In fact, much as I'd rather see him gone, I would have been okay with him coming back for one more year if he and his agent would agree to a major paycut (like down to a 1M or 2M base salary). That doesn't seem as though it will happen however.

I still think he's worth bringing in to see what he can do in the slot and share experience with younger recievers (not that I think he's a leader, just someone who can share experiences from every situation a player can find himself in.)
However I wouldn't bring him in to play much as a slot receiver, with his frame and age, nor mentor young guys, given his secluded nature even from his own teammates.

yourfavestoner
02-18-2009, 11:56 PM
Marvin's a mediocre number 4 receiver at this point.

Jesus Christ. If Devin Hester can catch 50 balls in Chicago's offense with Kyle Orton throwing him the ball, then I imagine Harvin can too.

7-11
02-19-2009, 12:28 AM
Jesus Christ. If Devin Hester can catch 50 balls in Chicago's offense with Kyle Orton throwing him the ball, then I imagine Harvin can too.

Harvin or Marvin? Think he's referring to Marvin and you're referring to Harvin....Harvin Marvin

21ST
02-19-2009, 12:40 AM
If this is the end of Marvin's days as a Colt, I'm deeply grateful for everything he has done with this organization.

Top 5 WR of all time and that's a fact.

actually thats an opinion

Brodeur
02-19-2009, 08:21 AM
Jesus Christ. If Devin Hester can catch 50 balls in Chicago's offense with Kyle Orton throwing him the ball, then I imagine Harvin can too.

I'm sure this has a lot to do with Harrison being a number 4...

Gay Ork Wang
02-19-2009, 08:23 AM
Uhhhhh... why do people want him?
id take him for Vet Minimum to teach some of the younger kids, but yea i dont feel like he could provide a lot on the field

FlyingElvis
02-19-2009, 08:34 AM
Congrats on a great career. Please don't try to extend it.


Marvin stunk up the joint for all but a few big catches last year as the 4th option for Peyton Freakin Manning people, you don't really want him on your team.

vikes_28
02-19-2009, 08:50 AM
because he's like, an 88 overall in madden!

So is Ryan Cook......

21ST
02-19-2009, 09:12 AM
Why do so many of you want him on your team? He's not the Marvin Harrison of 2 years ago.

He is better than any reciver on my team though.

MaxV
02-19-2009, 12:02 PM
In the organization? Or overall?

Overall.

Marvin was a SPECTACULAR player in this prime.

HawkeyeFan
02-19-2009, 12:22 PM
Remember when he USED to be a high character guy?

MetSox17
02-19-2009, 12:53 PM
because he's like, an 88 overall in madden!

Not to mention he still has, like, 93 speed, and we all know speed = championshipz.

drowe
02-19-2009, 12:59 PM
Top 5 WR of all time and that's a fact.


no....that's actually an opinion.
:)

indyfan1985
02-19-2009, 04:24 PM
Stick a fork under his knee cap and he's done.

I think if Indy goes WR it probably will be Nicks, they may even have a shot at DHB. But Indy has some solid back up, so they may not even address WR until later.

It's hard to tell what Indy will do in round 1 of this year's draft. If Marv is not with the team Polian could look to get another WR, but whether that comes via the 1st round, we'll wait and see. Polian is kinda hard to read, and he usually likes to go best player available so if that is a WR in the 1st round, he will probably go with him.

Philliez01
02-19-2009, 04:52 PM
id take him for Vet Minimum to teach some of the younger kids, but yea i dont feel like he could provide a lot on the field

Not to seem like a d-bag but I'm not sure if Marvin is the type that would willingly "teach" some of the young WRs. Doesn't seem like his style.

RCAChainGang
02-20-2009, 12:39 AM
Not to seem like a d-bag but I'm not sure if Marvin is the type that would willingly "teach" some of the young WRs. Doesn't seem like his style.

Its not his style.

If you have seen him in games on the bench he sits all by himself occasionally discussing things with Manning.

He was a great player in his years in Indy and I wish him the best.

Bring on Harvin!!!

Geo
02-20-2009, 09:31 AM
It may not mean anything at all, but I always like how Wayne, Clark, and Gonzalez, sit next to Peyton on the bench and usually talk about what they're seeing. Or maybe that week's episode of Lost, who knows.

TitleTown088
02-20-2009, 11:49 AM
Jets cut Chris Baker

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9243748/Source:-Jets-make-another-move,-release-Baker

killxswitch
02-20-2009, 01:21 PM
See sig re: Harvin. His best attributes would be wasted in the Colts' offense.

Harrison cannot stay with the Colts with his current contract, and I don't think the player's association will just let him take a pay cut. He is one of the top 5 highest-paid WRs in the league right now.

JRTPlaya21
02-20-2009, 02:15 PM
Redskins cut Marcus Washington

http://washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/Feb/20/washingtons-release-official/

diabsoule
02-20-2009, 05:19 PM
Raiders have released FS Gibril Wilson, WR Ronald Curry, and DE Kalimba Edwards.

Why would they release Wilson?

art vandelay
02-20-2009, 05:22 PM
Wow why do the Raiders sign players in free agency and then trade/release them the next off-season? Not to mention they overpay for them in the first place...

JFLO
02-20-2009, 05:31 PM
Raiders have released FS Gibril Wilson, WR Ronald Curry, and DE Kalimba Edwards.

Why would they release Wilson?

Gibril Wilson is somewhat surprising, but maybe it was a Tom Cable influenced decision. Also, that huge Aso contract might have something to do with it. Also, they might be looking to score big in free agency...

diabsoule
02-20-2009, 05:41 PM
Gibril Wilson is somewhat surprising, but maybe it was a Tom Cable influenced decision. Also, that huge Aso contract might have something to do with it. Also, they might be looking to score big in free agency...

They scored big last year when they signed him and Wilson is better than any safety set to hit the market this year.

Geo
02-20-2009, 05:53 PM
Is there a source for those Raiders cuts?

Cutting Wilson doesn't make much sense, I don't think.

Gay Ork Wang
02-20-2009, 05:54 PM
http://www.raiders.com/Team/Default.aspx?id=152

PACKmanN
02-20-2009, 05:55 PM
They scored big last year when they signed him and Wilson is better than any safety set to hit the market this year.

Sean Jones says hi

gpngc
02-20-2009, 06:02 PM
Maybe they were confused and meant to cut Michael Huff.

So does this mean Huff stays now?

Young Legend
02-20-2009, 06:05 PM
Wilson is a shocker now the Raiders now need a FS and SS

Flyboy
02-20-2009, 06:15 PM
I know it sounds cliche, but damn it'd be nice if the Saints could somehow snag up Wilson.

Geo
02-20-2009, 06:15 PM
Thanks for that link, GOW. That is interesting.

Maybe he was due a big bonus in the second year, per his huge contract, that Davis just didn't want to pay even though he was solid.

JFLO
02-20-2009, 06:17 PM
Maybe they were confused and meant to cut Michael Huff.

So does this mean Huff stays now?

haha, that's good stuff right there

Al Davis is getting Alzheimer's