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gpngc
02-10-2009, 02:09 PM
Source: Askthecommish.com

These are rough estimates as of early February but all the figures are supposed to be close to accurate.

Projected 2009 NFL Salary Cap Space for Each Team
Rank -- Team -- $ Under the Cap
1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers $42000000
2. Arizona Cardinals $41000000
3. Denver Broncos $34000000
4. Kansas City Chiefs $33000000
5. Tennessee Titans $31000000
6. Miami Dolphins $28000000
7. Buffalo Bills $27000000
8. Detroit Lions $26000000
9. San Francisco 49ers $26000000
10. Houston Texans $25000000
11. Philadelphia Eagles $25000000
12. Cincinnati Bengals $22000000
13. New England Patriots $21000000
14. Minnesota Vikings $20000000
15. Atlanta Falcons $20000000
16. Pittsburgh Steelers $19000000
17. Baltimore Ravens $19000000
18. Chicago Bears $19000000
19. Green Bay Packers $18000000
20. Cleveland Browns $17000000
21. Jacksonville Jaguars $16000000
22. San Diego Chargers $14000000
23. NY Giants $11000000
24. Dallas Cowboys $10000000
25. Carolina Panthers $9000000
26. Seattle Seahawks $9000000
27. St. Louis Rams $8000000
28. Oakland Raiders $4000000
29. Indianapolis Colts $2000000
30. Washington Redskins $-3000000
31. New Orleans Saints $-5000000
32. NY Jets $-7000000

Take this for what you want because I'm not sure how accurate it really is. ESPN's Mike Sando has the Seahawks with $20.3 million in cap room, not $9 million. He also says the Niners cap space is about $12 million, not $26 million. Maybe Askthecommish.com is considering the potential re-structuring of Alex Smith and releasing of Jonas Jennings in the Niners case?

Anyway I think it's pretty obvious that the Broncos are in excellent shape. They have no big guys to re-sign and can focus on defensive free agents. As far as the Jets go, they obviously have some work to do but if Favre retires I think that number will go way up.

BeerBaron
02-10-2009, 02:14 PM
Wow, it's not a bad thing when the Superbowl runners up have the 2nd most cap space. I'd give Boldin a matching deal to Fitz and keep the core of that team at its best....

Go_Eagles77
02-10-2009, 02:16 PM
Eagles are in really good shape headed into the off-season, 25,000,000 in cap space, 2 first round picks, 10 picks total.

AntoinCD
02-10-2009, 02:17 PM
Wow, it's not a bad thing when the Superbowl runners up have the 2nd most cap space. I'd give Boldin a matching deal to Fitz and keep the core of that team at its best....

I think its past giving him his money now, the wound is that deep. Personally i'd be shocked if he's still a Cardinal next year. I'd trade him for a first rounder(possibly Philly or even Chicago) and make a big splash in free agency, maybe someone like Peppers if he actually hits the market

vidae
02-10-2009, 02:19 PM
Come on Pioli! Spend some money!

holt_bruce81
02-10-2009, 02:21 PM
Rams currently have around 14 million.

MasterShake
02-10-2009, 02:27 PM
He also says the Niners cap space is about $12 million, not $26 million. Maybe Askthecommish.com is considering the imminent re-structuring of Alex Smith and releasing of Jonas Jennings in the Niners case?



Fixed it for you.

TitleTown088
02-10-2009, 02:30 PM
That site is off over 7 million for what the Packers anticipated cap room will be.

FlyingElvis
02-10-2009, 02:30 PM
Patriots number looks right, pending Cassel's franchise tag. Were they to actually sign him to the 14+ million the tag warrants they would only have 7 million in cap room.

Wow, it's not a bad thing when the Superbowl runners up have the 2nd most cap space. I'd give Boldin a matching deal to Fitz and keep the core of that team at its best....

Agreed. Too bad the Zona ownership is considered the cheapest in the league. 2nd place might be enough to boost jersey sales just enough for the FO to slide back into the 'too cheap to do it right' ways they've become notorious for.

Borat
02-10-2009, 02:35 PM
Cap space is kind of lame at this point. There are so many ways to maneuver around the cap that it's rendered the cap kind of useless. Hell, the Niners received $7M extra on the '09 cap because Donald Strickland didn't block 15 punts. That is lame.

Brent
02-10-2009, 02:48 PM
That is lame.
What? That is awesome.

We'll have 20-30 million, with luck we'll cut Jennings and Roman.

Sniper
02-10-2009, 02:49 PM
Cool. $25 million in cap space. The Eagles MIGHT use half of that. Always gotta save $15 million for a rainy day.

Borat
02-10-2009, 02:54 PM
What? That is awesome.

We'll have 20-30 million, with luck we'll cut Jennings and Roman.

I meant lame as in it's lame that something so silly like that can be done. It makes the salary cap worthless.

But yes, I love that it was my team raping the cap. That rocks.

TheBuffaloBills
02-10-2009, 02:57 PM
The Bills have 27 Mil of cap room, therefore, they will spend 1 mill.

Brent
02-10-2009, 03:02 PM
I meant lame as in it's lame that something so silly like that can be done. It makes the salary cap worthless.

But yes, I love that it was my team raping the cap. That rocks.
Ah, well, I can agree with that. I don't expect the rules to change any time soon though. Those sorts of glitches in the way it's structured allow for teams to really get out of cap hell.

If they restructure Alex's contract he wont count as $12.3M against the cap. Jonas Jennings will be $6.6M against the cap but if they cut him, it's only $3.5M. Michael Lewis is $5.0M and $3.0M if he is cut but I think he stays. Isaac Bruce is $2.0M against and $500K is he is cut. I dont know if he is staying but he probably will. Mark "I steal money and call myself a safety" Roman is $1.4M against the cap and $500K if he is cut. I hope that he is cut and they just hand to the job to Goldson. I'd rather Goldson be out there and make plays to off-set his mistakes than Roman who is just out there making mistakes.

diabsoule
02-10-2009, 03:03 PM
I knew the Saints were $5 million over. We're going to have release several veterans and restructure some deals.

I would expect Deuce McAllister, David Patten, Brian Young, and Mark Simoneau all to be released. Mike McKenzie and possibly Jamar Nesbit will get their deals restructured. I think the team will also look into releasing Jason David, Kevin Kaesviharn, and Mark Brunell.

TitanHope
02-10-2009, 03:12 PM
The Titans' numbers are correct. We're approximately between $31-$32 million under the cap. We also have $12 million dollars more than the next closest AFC playoff team, the Steelers.

Major props to the work GM Mike Reinfeldt has done over the past 3 seasons.

T-RICH49
02-10-2009, 03:37 PM
KC with the expected releases should have even more then 33 mill

TitleTown088
02-10-2009, 03:39 PM
What? That is awesome.

We'll have 20-30 million, with luck we'll cut Jennings and Roman.

Haha, I feel for you.

OzTitan
02-10-2009, 03:58 PM
Thanks to likely to be earned incentive clauses, these numbers don't mean a whole lot. Some teams probably have an extra $10M or so in cap credit from loophole LTBE's not reached, like ST linebackers kicking 20 field goals, etc. I wish these clauses were reported better, they can make a big impact and often go completely unreported.

It's funny how different the cap is today compared to only a few seasons ago. Managing the cap used to about when you had to blowup the roster and rebuild, not if. Had the CBA run out 2 years earlier etc etc, the Titans would probably just be on the downhill now from the McNair, Mason, Rolle etc era. Then you see teams like the Colts hovering under the cap by a small margin in cap-friendly times continuing an impressive playoff streak, and can't help but wonder if this state of an almost ineffective and irrelevant salary cap system coming about when it did hasn't been a huge factor in that.

Brent
02-10-2009, 04:00 PM
Haha, I feel for you.
I dont know what Nolan was thinking with bringing him in. We must have been desperate. Then again, I often question Nolan decisions.

Borat
02-10-2009, 04:05 PM
I dont know what Nolan was thinking with bringing him in. We must have been desperate. Then again, I often question Nolan decisions.

Nolan had a sick Mark Roman fetish. He loved that guy. I have no idea why. He even made him the defensive headset guy to start the season before giving it to PWillie. Just plain stupid love for such a terrible player. Made no sense.

Menardo75
02-10-2009, 04:07 PM
Nolan had a sick Mark Roman fetish. He loved that guy. I have no idea why. He even made him the defensive headset guy to start the season before giving it to PWillie. Just plain stupid love for such a terrible player. Made no sense.

Kind of like his love of Damane Duckett.

SeanTaylorRIP
02-10-2009, 04:13 PM
The Skins will still offer the biggest contracts to the biggest free agents. Wait when there is no cap Snyder will let you be mayor of D.C.

PACKmanN
02-10-2009, 04:29 PM
Those numbers have to be false. There is no way those teams have more then the Packers....18 million, who have we given half of our cap too...

umphrey
02-10-2009, 04:30 PM
The Packers are in much worse shape than I thought. We still have to give out contracts to Jennings, Collins, and the #9 pick. That could get pricey.

gpngc
02-10-2009, 04:32 PM
The Packers are in much worse shape than I thought. We still have to give out contracts to Jennings, Collins, and the #9 pick. That could get pricey.

That may be where the term "projected" comes in for the guys at askthecommish.

SeanTaylorRIP
02-10-2009, 04:32 PM
Those numbers have to be false. There is no way those teams have more then the Packers....18 million, who have we given half of our cap too...

Aaron Rodgers

PACKmanN
02-10-2009, 04:33 PM
right, Rodgers took 20 million..

thetedginnshow
02-10-2009, 04:42 PM
Pretty sure that's the Jets' figure with Favre included.

Notredameleo
02-10-2009, 04:43 PM
The Lions have between 36-40 million, not 26.

Brent
02-10-2009, 04:46 PM
Nolan had a sick Mark Roman fetish. He loved that guy. I have no idea why. He even made him the defensive headset guy to start the season before giving it to PWillie. Just plain stupid love for such a terrible player. Made no sense.
But then they gave it back to Roman because Willis said it was distracting him while he was trying to get real on some fools.

gpngc
02-10-2009, 04:49 PM
The Lions have between 36-40 million, not 26.

Now that I think about it, I've seen the Bucs reported at around $52 million, and the Broncos reported at $41 million. Maybe askthecommish is taking into account the signings of draft picks... That would explain the discrepancy about the Lions, Bucs, and Broncos....

CashmoneyDrew
02-10-2009, 04:52 PM
31 million in cap and we're lowballing the hell out of Haynesworth. It's gonna be a sad day when he walks... :(

TitanHope
02-10-2009, 04:54 PM
Have faith VooDoo, for the force is with us...

Brent
02-10-2009, 04:54 PM
He also says the Niners cap space is about $12 million, not $26 million.

No, he says it's $12M at the moment and will be between $20-30M when free agency starts because each year the cap grows and the FO worked contracts out so that we had even more space, like the aforementioned clause in Donald Strickland's contract.

gpngc
02-10-2009, 04:55 PM
No, he says it's $12M at the moment and will be between $20-30M when free agency starts because each year the cap grows.

Sense. It makes.

The Dynasty
02-10-2009, 04:57 PM
The Vikings actually have 28 Million under the cap not 20.


The Vikings’ salary-cap situation
February 10th, 2009 – 1:30 PM by Judd Zulgad

And you thought the NFL season just finished. Actually, the fun is just starting.

The scouting combine is next week and on Feb. 27 free agency will kickoff. While the free-agent crop might make it unlikely the Vikings will spend like they did a year ago, the salary-cap shouldn’t be an issue. The Vikings are currently about $28 million under the $123 million cap for the 2009 season.

That is down slightly from last season when the Vikings entered free agency with more than $30 million in cap space. Minnesota’s cap room for this year could grow depending on any moves made before the free agency period begins that could clear more space.

D-Unit
02-10-2009, 05:04 PM
Doesn't really matter with the cap going away and all...

What really surprises me is that Detroit actually spent a cent for their team. I'm flabergasted! :p

CashmoneyDrew
02-10-2009, 05:07 PM
Have faith VooDoo, for the force is with us...

Lord I hope so. Resigning Haynesworth and picking up a number one receiver= dream off-season for me. The draft would then just be icing on the cake.

djp
02-10-2009, 05:08 PM
It always amazes me every year when the Vikings seem to have $15/20M in cap room.

They must be masters of the cap, because they've spent like crazy.

OzTitan
02-10-2009, 05:11 PM
Again, for people claiming their team has a few extra $M more than reported here, the "salary cap" being a static figure is a myth - LTBE incentives makes the projected $123M cap actually vary from team to team with cap credits. The exact cap room numbers will vary a lot depending on what the source factors in. Realistically it won't matter much for 90% of teams what the exact amount is as they won't be spending anywhere near it.

OzTitan
02-10-2009, 05:21 PM
31 million in cap and we're lowballing the hell out of Haynesworth. It's gonna be a sad day when he walks... :(

That's just how contract talks start. Got to know the limits, both ways. Team lowballs, agent throws out a stupid high set of numbers. If they can find a middle ground before the clock runs out, they have a deal.

Personally, I won't be excited either way. One way we're letting our best player go, the other way we're paying top defensive player money to a guy who hasn't played a full season yet in his career, who has had more sacks in his 2 contract years than every year before that combined. By resigning Haynesworth, we're also not generally getting better as a team - just avoiding getting worse. Who knows, maybe shifting slightly away from defense and focusing a bit more on offense and hence balancing the team is what the Titans need. It's an awfully big risk either way.

GB12
02-10-2009, 08:35 PM
Those numbers have to be false. There is no way those teams have more then the Packers....18 million, who have we given half of our cap too...

The Packers are in much worse shape than I thought. We still have to give out contracts to Jennings, Collins, and the #9 pick. That could get pricey.
Don't worry, when the actual figures come out we'll have at least $25 million if not closer to 30.

Xiomera
02-10-2009, 08:40 PM
The Lions have closer to 35-38 million right now, not 26.

LonghornsLegend
02-10-2009, 08:50 PM
Dallas isn't doing too bad right now considering were going to let Canty walk, restructure Roy Williams(SS) contract or release him outright, and Greg Ellis maybe...This is good news for re-signing Miles Austin who at this point is all I'm concerned about.

dan77733
02-10-2009, 08:59 PM
With the Cowboys only having $10m in cap room, no way in hell they release T.O. and take an $8m cap hit. Even releasing Williams and Ellis, DAL still wont have enough to sign Ware to an extension as well as their draft picks.

Sniper
02-10-2009, 09:45 PM
With the Cowboys only having $10m in cap room, no way in hell they release T.O. and take an $8m cap hit. Even releasing Williams and Ellis, DAL still wont have enough to sign Ware to an extension as well as their draft picks.

No no no. They can let Ware go to Philly!

yourfavestoner
02-10-2009, 10:13 PM
31 million in cap and we're lowballing the hell out of Haynesworth. It's gonna be a sad day when he walks... :(

You guys gotta remember that cap money is just a figure. Just because a team is $31 million under the cap doesn't mean that they have $31 million to spend. The money that these players make (especially fat guaranteed bonuses) comes out of somebody's pocket. That's why I keep saying that it's gonna be tougher for small market teams to meet the minimum required spending amount than it will be for them to go over the cap.

bearsfan_51
02-10-2009, 10:20 PM
It always amazes me every year when the Vikings seem to have $15/20M in cap room.

They must be masters of the cap, because they've spent like crazy.
The Vikings never have good players to resign. Which is why it seems like they are always spending money, re-signing your players doesn't make big headlines.

holt_bruce81
02-10-2009, 11:53 PM
If Rams cut Pace and Holt, they go from having 14 million to spend to having 28 million to spend.

Paranoidmoonduck
02-10-2009, 11:55 PM
And having one proven commodity on the entirety of the offense.

MetSox17
02-10-2009, 11:57 PM
With the Cowboys only having $10m in cap room, no way in hell they release T.O. and take an $8m cap hit. Even releasing Williams and Ellis, DAL still wont have enough to sign Ware to an extension as well as their draft picks.

Brad Johnson, Kyle Kosier, Anthony Henry, Roy Williams, and Greg Ellis are all guys that most likely won't be in Dallas next year.

That move alone creates about 15 million dollars of cap room.

Me Likey Rookies
02-11-2009, 12:10 AM
Woohoo Bucs are first in something! Lets go Haynesworth!!

LonghornsLegend
02-11-2009, 09:17 AM
With the Cowboys only having $10m in cap room, no way in hell they release T.O. and take an $8m cap hit. Even releasing Williams and Ellis, DAL still wont have enough to sign Ware to an extension as well as their draft picks.

TO is gonna count against the cap anyway regardless, he's not factored into the remaining money we have left:


Last June, the Cowboys paid Owens a $12.9 million signing bonus as part of a four-year, $36 million contract. Should the Cowboys cut Owens, he would count $680,000 more against the '09 cap than the $8.99 million he is scheduled to count if he stays. And because this is the last capped season, the Cowboys cannot spread out the hit over two seasons like teams were able to do previously.

The question the Cowboys must answer: Would you rather have T.O. count $8.99 million against the cap to play for the Cowboys next season or an extra $680,000 to go away?
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/terrell-owens/


That's also assuming we aren't going to cut a large number of pricey veterans like most teams do..I also think it's cute when people say "there is no way they will be able to afford Ware", yea ok :rolleyes: Ware isn't going anywhere, and people should realize that Jerry isn't that naive to let that come close to happening.

Geo
02-11-2009, 10:27 AM
Even if the Cowboys can't afford Ware now, they'll just franchise him until they do work out a deal.

M.O.T.H.
02-11-2009, 10:39 AM
Dallas isn't doing too bad right now considering were going to let Canty walk, restructure Roy Williams(SS) contract or release him outright, and Greg Ellis maybe...This is good news for re-signing Miles Austin who at this point is all I'm concerned about.

It's not all that good actually...when Ware will get 13 per. Even when you cut some of the fat and get some more room, we're not in the best of shape. We wont exactly be in cap hell but, we wont have a real lot of room to work.

Sniper
02-11-2009, 10:41 AM
It's not all that good actually...when Ware will get 13 per. Even when you cut some of the fat and get some more room, we're not in the best of shape. We wont exactly be in cap hell but, we wont have a real a lot of room to work.

But most of the big guns on your team has been locked up so it's not too bad.

M.O.T.H.
02-11-2009, 10:42 AM
But most of the big guns on your team has been locked up so it's not too bad.

Yeah, that's true but, a lot of our fans are expecting us to make big splashes via FA and it doesnt look all that possible. Hell, Canty probably wont even be back because, he's too pricy.

MetSox17
02-11-2009, 10:42 AM
It's not all that good actually...when Ware will get 13 per. Even when you cut some of the fat and get some more room, we're not in the best of shape. We wont exactly be in cap hell but, we wont have a real lot of room to work.

His salary will be around that high, but i don't think the cap number will be anywhere close. Flozell is making about 14 million a year and his cap number is about 10 less than that.

M.O.T.H.
02-11-2009, 10:45 AM
His salary will be around that high, but i don't think the cap number will be anywhere close. Flozell is making about 14 million a year and his cap number is about 10 less than that.

Yes...early in his contract but, that increases significantly every year. Stephen Jones manipulates the cap and frees up cap room initially but, all of our players have heavily backloaded contracts. Romo and Davis were making the league minimum last year to free up cap...you can only trick the cap so many times before it starts to kill you. There's a reason JJ has said this should be a very quiet off-season. He's not putting all of his eggs in one basket. You have to act as though there will be a salary cap in 2010 still.

Also, Kosier and Henry probably arent going anywhere.

d34ng3l021
02-11-2009, 12:10 PM
Eagles are in really good shape headed into the off-season, 25,000,000 in cap space, 2 first round picks, 10 picks total.

Yeah thats actually very impressive. Moreso if you consider they just went to the NFCCG. They could be a force to deal with this upcoming year (and more if they draft well).

Sniper
02-11-2009, 01:12 PM
Yeah thats actually very impressive. Moreso if you consider they just went to the NFCCG. They could be a force to deal with this upcoming year (and more if they draft well).

Bleh. Maybe if they weren't chicken **** and took chances in FA more than once every five years, they might win a SB. Like I said earlier, they MIGHT use half of it.

d34ng3l021
02-11-2009, 01:43 PM
Bleh. Maybe if they weren't chicken **** and took chances in FA more than once every five years, they might win a SB. Like I said earlier, they MIGHT use half of it.

Big FA accusations are overrated. Yes there are a couple that work (drew brees), but there are many disappointing players and FAs that can possibly ruin team chemistry. Its always best to build through the draft and bring in low - mid level FAs in my opinion. If you are a few pieces away from the SB and have a team that has a closing window of opportunity, then it makes sense. Maybe you could classify the Eagles in that category, I don't know.

Sniper
02-11-2009, 01:45 PM
Big FA accusations are overrated. Yes there are a couple that work (drew brees), but there are many disappointing players and FAs that can possibly ruin team chemistry. Its always best to build through the draft and bring in low - mid level FAs in my opinion. If you are a few pieces away from the SB and have a team that has a closing window of opportunity, then it makes sense. Maybe you could classify the Eagles in that category, I don't know.

1. Acquisitions, not accusations.
2. The Eagles ARE a team that has a closing window of opportunity and they are a few pieces away.

d34ng3l021
02-11-2009, 01:54 PM
1. Acquisitions, not accusations.
2. The Eagles ARE a team that has a closing window of opportunity and they are a few pieces away.

oh ****. lol at accusations.

And yeah, I guess you are right. I just don't think they would suffer that much if they didn't bring anyone big in because they have a really good defense that is fairly young. They have been a good team year in and year out due to good drafting and coaching (i know reid sucks at times, but theres a reason eagles have made 5 NFCCGs and are always playoff contenders. they probably have the best record in the NFC over the past 7-9 years). Just my $.02

Sniper
02-11-2009, 01:59 PM
oh ****. lol at accusations.

And yeah, I guess you are right. I just don't think they would suffer that much if they didn't bring anyone big in because they have a really good defense that is fairly young. They have been a good team year in and year out due to good drafting and coaching (i know reid sucks at times, but theres a reason eagles have made 5 NFCCGs and are always playoff contenders. they probably have the best record in the NFC over the past 7-9 years). Just my $.02

I don't give a **** about NFCCG, NFC East titles, or anything short of Super Bowl wins. "2 is not a winner and 3 nobody remembers". I'm not asking for major acquisitions on the defense. A nickel corner if Joselio Hanson walks is about it. The offense has a lot of questions. Two ancient offensive tackles. No #1 receiver. Questions at tight end. No power back.

Geo
02-11-2009, 01:59 PM
The Eagles signed Asante Samuel last offseason to huge money, because it was a perfect fit for them: he was young enough (27) to invest in, fit their team, and is a playmaker. He's worth it so far.

They also signed Chris Clemons too, I don't know if they used him enough.

Houshmandzadeh could be a perfect complement to DeSean Jackson and Kevin Curtis. However he'll be 32 years old this September, that could seriously damper the Eagles' interest in him.

jth1331
02-11-2009, 02:03 PM
Honestly, the salary cap now is ridiculous. Look how many teams are in "good shape" to sign people. Broncos have $30-40 mil to spend, but guess what, nearly half the league has at least $15 mil to spend it seems. And besides, signing big name free agents doesn't always work out well. How much money did the Jets throw out there last year only to miss the playoffs?

Sniper
02-11-2009, 02:05 PM
They also signed Chris Clemons too, I don't know if they used him enough.

Clemons missed a big chunk of training camp because he was sick. That explains why we didn't see him until the end of the year. Mastering the Jim Johnson playbook is no easy fit.

Houshmandzadeh could be a perfect complement to DeSean Jackson and Kevin Curtis. However he'll be 32 years old this September, that could seriously damper the Eagles' interest in him.

Cough cough Anquan Boldin cough cough.

bored of education
02-11-2009, 02:09 PM
Clemons missed a big chunk of training camp because he was sick. That explains why we didn't see him until the end of the year. Mastering the Jim Johnson playbook is no easy fit.



Cough cough Anquan Boldin cough cough.

2 1sts for Bowe :D

Geo
02-11-2009, 02:43 PM
Clemons missed a big chunk of training camp because he was sick. That explains why we didn't see him until the end of the year. Mastering the Jim Johnson playbook is no easy fit.
That's what puzzles me: what is there to master? In my book there shouldn't be a single third down, where it's four-plus yards to go, that Clemons isn't on the field looking to wreck havoc - especially on the quarterback.

And other than that, he needs to play well on special teams.

If anything, the DL coach and the ST coach should be much more important/useful for his role with the Eagles than Johnson, I would think. But that isn't worth anything, so who knows.

Cough cough Anquan Boldin cough cough.
Q would beast it in Philly. Remember when they had TO? Except now it would be without the psychosis.

Still, I have a hard time thinking the Cards would trade him in conference. I think Miami might be in play because Parcells wants a big #1 for his team, and I haven't mentioned this gem of an idea before, but I think Buffalo could potentially be in play.

CashmoneyDrew
02-11-2009, 02:45 PM
I haven't mentioned this gem of an idea before, but I think Buffalo could potentially be in play.

No! They already have Lee Evans. A WR starved team like the Titans needs him!
heh heh

Sniper
02-11-2009, 02:46 PM
Q would beast it in Philly.

I know!

Remember when they had TO?

Must be a random coincidence they made it to the SB that year. That's gotta be Jeffrey Lurie and Joe Banner's way of thinking.

21ST
02-11-2009, 08:03 PM
Im guessing the likely to be earned incentives are not added on here because that would give us an extra 8-9 million

LonghornsLegend
02-11-2009, 11:54 PM
It's not all that good actually...when Ware will get 13 per. Even when you cut some of the fat and get some more room, we're not in the best of shape. We wont exactly be in cap hell but, we wont have a real lot of room to work.

You guys are always worried about the cap, fact is were never going to be 25 million under, we are always going to be cutting it close but again were never going to lose any important players so it doesn't really matter...I was more referencing Ware as to no matter what the cap looks like he'll be signed, and I doubt we even get to having to tag him.


I'd prefer to let Canty walk regardless with his asking price so that's no biggie, if we wanted him the time to re-sign was the year before when he wouldn't of been jacking his price up that high, and I fully expect some veterans to be cut soon that will be cutting cost as well.

MetSox17
02-11-2009, 11:58 PM
2 is not a winner and 3 nobody remembers

LOL @ the "Nelly" reference.

fenikz
02-12-2009, 12:00 AM
LOL @ the "Nelly" reference.

UNDALA UNDLA MAMI EIEI UHOOOOOOOOOO

OzTitan
02-12-2009, 08:58 PM
http://forums.kffl.com/showthread.php?t=245174

Got this from a Titans forum. Not official but the poster is a guru of sorts when it comes to comp picks and the cap.

Further proof how stupid the salary cap system is getting. Most teams don't need this extra space. It's not like the Titans, for instance, need that extra $5M of cap room on top of their $31M they won't come close to spending anyway (which is a good thing). I assume they do it so they have more room to create more LTBE incentive loop holes for next season, and the cycle starts again.

Hopefully the new CBA rids of it. Honestly, with stuff like this, I'm starting to warm to the idea of a capless NFL - 6 year UFA instead of 3 and free agency restrictions for playoff teams will maintain a good degree of parity and "fair go"-ism for lesser teams.

Sniper
02-12-2009, 09:39 PM
LOL @ the "Nelly" reference.

:D. That song came on TV when I was typing that. I thought it was appropriate. ;)