Cmac gone.

[Ravens1991]

No surprise, there will be a interview w/ him w/ Anita on 105.7. Should be good on what they say.

[PACKmanN]

wow, don't you guys need CBs?

[coordinator0]

wow, don't you guys need CBs?

Yes, but not old, oft injured, and 9 mil+ a year against the cap CB's. This has been rumored for a long time, and it is the right move. Especially if we want to keep 3/4 of our big FA's. Looks like there's a much better chance of seeing Ray back.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

wow, don't you guys need CBs?

C-mac's over the hill trash now.

[Ravens1991]

I wouldnt say he is trash now. I wouldn't mind if we re-sign him w/ a re-structured deal. He sounds upset that he is leaving he sounds like he liked it here.

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

C-mac's over the hill trash now.

I do not disagree with the move but I will say C-mac was doing great for us when he was playing last year.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Eh he lost a step was beat bad in coverage. Maybe I was a bit harsh but he isn't anything like the player he used to be. He can still cover big guys but lacks the quickness anymore to stick with so many receivers in this league.

[Ravens1991]

Cmac said he thinks we will keep Samari around. Great...

[thule]

As a onlooker from another team...I can say that he definately at the top of my board for the cowboys...to come in and maybe play 10-20% of the defensive snaps and be able to slide into higher playing time if an injury were to occur. Not to mention the swagger he will bring with him to another team...and the knowledge. The big question becomes will he be willing to go to another team and take the backseat/teacher roll imo.

[Ravens1991]

some guy just called in claiming it was common knowledge that Cmac was drunk against INDY. Yes he played like crap but has anyone heard that before?

[Ravens1991]

As a onlooker from another team...I can say that he definately at the top of my board for the cowboys...to come in and maybe play 10-20% of the defensive snaps and be able to slide into higher playing time if an injury were to occur. Not to mention the swagger he will bring with him to another team...and the knowledge. The big question becomes will he be willing to go to another team and take the backseat/teacher roll imo.

will you guys have enough cap room for him if you make a play for Ray Ray?

[BigDawg819]

This is just moronic..........

The secondary was our most vulnerable set on defense and now we release our best corner. A year of Ivy and Walker, Harbaugh you're an ass.

[Ravens1991]

it isn't all Harbaugh it was Newsome as well. Besides I would let Cmac go before letting Ray,Brown,Suggs go in a instant. Maybe Cmac comes back w/ a negotiated deal IDK. He seems to like it here in his interview w/ Anita Marks

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

This is just moronic..........

The secondary was our most vulnerable set on defense and now we release our best corner. A year of Ivy and Walker, Harbaugh you're an ass.

I can see why we did it because he was not feeling Harbaugh. I just think that we need to address that position quick. I mean get a guy in there who can contribute right away.

[America]

I figured this was a done deal a long time ago, since the rumblings that he didn't want to be here, etc. It's not like we'll be missing that much from last year, seeing as he was out for 10 games and essentially not there during the Indy game. It's good to free up the cap but we pretty much can't do without a contributing rookie next year.

I'm not too surprised Samari is still on the team because his cap figure is much lower and he's been good in the locker room. It's too bad none of our former young corners (Prude, Martin, Pittman) didn't turn out.

[BigDawg819]

it isn't all Harbaugh it was Newsome as well. Besides I would let Cmac go before letting Ray,Brown,Suggs go in a instant. Maybe Cmac comes back w/ a negotiated deal IDK. He seems to like it here in his interview w/ Anita Marks


All this Keep Ray nonsense is going to cripple our team for years to come. We're likely going to offer him the moon and franchise Suggs. That will piss off Suggs, which is justified, and we lose our best corner and won't have much money to get another of his caliber. Ray Lewis needs to go for the good of the franchise!

[EdReedUnstoppable]

F**k Ozzie Newsome! F**k Steve Bisciotti! F**k them in their stupid asses!!

[SeanTaylorRIP]

I hope you all know we free up 8 mil cap by cutting him. Without it we can't sign at least 2 out of 3 of the linebackers and most importantly Jason Brown.

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

Yea that is why I am ok with it

[Ravens1991]

All this Keep Ray nonsense is going to cripple our team for years to come. We're likely going to offer him the moon and franchise Suggs. That will piss off Suggs, which is justified, and we lose our best corner and won't have much money to get another of his caliber. Ray Lewis needs to go for the good of the franchise!

If we lose Suggs or Brown then maybe. But still on all accounts Cmac was a turd in the locker room and a bad attitude. I am glad Harbaugh will come in and not take anyones crap. Also this guy was hurt the past 2 years and said he only wants to play CB for at most 2 more years. We still might be able to re-sign him if he gets his act together and comes back for less $.

[BmoreBlackByrdz]

For all yall that are upset over this, I guess you'd prefer having C-Mac and Ray Lewis and let either Suggs or Brown walk? I'm totally fine with cutting a aging injury prone vet with attitude problems who can't even get along with the head coach in order to keep our younger stars who will be contributing for a much longer time.

[BigDawg819]

I hope you all know we free up 8 mil cap by cutting him. Without it we can't sign at least 2 out of 3 of the linebackers and most importantly Jason Brown.

And how exactly does any of that improve our secondary?

[BigDawg819]

For all yall that are upset over this, I guess you'd prefer having C-Mac and Ray Lewis and let either Suggs or Brown walk? I'm totally fine with cutting a aging injury prone vet with attitude problems who can't even get along with the head coach in order to keep our younger stars who will be contributing for a much longer time.

NO LET RAY GO!

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

For all yall that are upset over this, I guess you'd prefer having C-Mac and Ray Lewis and let either Suggs or Brown walk? I'm totally fine with cutting a aging injury prone vet with attitude problems who can't even get along with the head coach in order to keep our younger stars who will be contributing for a much longer time.

I do not think people want to get rid of anyone and can we get some type of appreciation or positive posts?? Instead of everyone ******** on him like he did nothing for our team. This is just ridiculous!! I mean I am not pissed we let him go but I do not plan on treating it like he was worthless

[Ravens1991]

NO LET RAY GO!

why do you hate Ray so much? We probably have gone over it before but I forget.

[BigDawg819]

why do you hate Ray so much? We probably have gone over it before but I forget.


Because I'm tired of his whole he's bigger then the team saga. He whines and cries when things don't go his way and can't grow up. He can go!

[ChefMike]

F**k Ozzie Newsome! F**k Steve Bisciotti! F**k them in their stupid asses!!

Come on now... CMac was looking like he might produce for us and then he injures his knee and from the outside doesn't get along with Harbaugh?! Come on who is more valuable to the fans and the Team... Ray or C-Mac? If he wants to come back restructured and willing to be a Team Player.. then bring him back...

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

Because I'm tired of his whole he's bigger then the team saga. He whines and cries when things don't go his way and can't grow up. He can go!

I just totally disagree with this. He only says something when he feels we are not doing anything to help the team. Does anyone really blame him for trying to get "rest of his life money"? I mean if it was your last contract would you take less? Yea it sucks we have to deal with it but I do not see how anyone could not like him. But everyone has there opinions

[ChewyRaven318]

I just think ERU wants us to be an 0-16 team because then it gives him a reason to complain..notice how he was quiet the entire season? yeah..

That's the only logical explanation if his "complaints" are legit.

But yeah, it's a good move, and he's not coming back to Baltimore. He'll be a high-risk pickup for another team who'll more than likely pay him good money because of his rep.

So don't feel TOO bad for him.

[ChewyRaven318]

Because I'm tired of his whole he's bigger then the team saga. He whines and cries when things don't go his way and can't grow up. He can go!

Soo you're against us letting go of a "me first" guy because he's our "best corner", and yet you want to let go of a guy you believe is a "me first" guy, even though he's CLEARLY the superior player of the two at his age?

Come on, dude..I'm not saying his whole "Cowboys/Jets" thing isn't a little irritating, but it's not like this is gonna break the team. We made it to the AFC Title game w/o Cmac..we'll be fine..promise.

[ChefMike]

Soo you're against us letting go of a "me first" guy because he's our "best corner", and yet you want to let go of a guy you believe is a "me first" guy, even though he's CLEARLY the superior player of the two at his age?

Come on, dude..I'm not saying his whole "Cowboys/Jets" thing isn't a little irritating, but it's not like this is gonna break the team. We made it to the AFC Title game w/o Cmac..we'll be fine..promise.

I agree, Cmac was not a factor this year at all, he was showing his old self for flashes but then he got injured?! Do we need that NO !!!!!

[EdReedUnstoppable]

I just think ERU wants us to be an 0-16 team because then it gives him a reason to complain..notice how he was quiet the entire season? yeah..

That's the only logical explanation if his "complaints" are legit.

But yeah, it's a good move, and he's not coming back to Baltimore. He'll be a high-risk pickup for another team who'll more than likely pay him good money because of his rep.

So don't feel TOO bad for him.

Actually champ I was quiet during the season because we got on a roll and Im supersticious. F U btw, I want nothing more than to win, but Im not gonna sit and suck Ozzie's **** when he is one of the more overrated GMs of all-time!

[EdReedUnstoppable]

And to all of you who are glad we released McAlister so we can sign Brown, how are you gonna feel when we cut CMac (our best CB) and then we don't re-sign Jason Brown?

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

Actually champ I was quiet during the season because we got on a roll and Im supersticious. F U btw, I want nothing more than to win, but Im not gonna sit and suck Ozzie's **** when he is one of the more overrated GMs of all-time!

There is a difference between sucking dick and just straight up hating. What is the reason you hate him so much? That is also a poor excuse of why you were quiet. Who doesn't like to talk **** when there team is winning.
You talk about supersticion but you say "watch when we don't sign brown" You are ********.

[Ravens1991]

Because I'm tired of his whole he's bigger then the team saga. He whines and cries when things don't go his way and can't grow up. He can go!

I see your point of view, but I feel Ray can bring the team together like no one can. You claim he is bad for the team when he unites the team together not break it away like some people.

[EdReedUnstoppable]

There is a difference between sucking dick and just straight up hating. What is the reason you hate him so much? That is also a poor excuse of why you were quiet. Who doesn't like to talk **** when there team is winning.
You talk about supersticion but you say "watch when we don't sign brown" You are ********.

What does that have to do with superstition? You do understand what that means right? Btw who are you?

[trkaline]

Nah man leave ERU alone, so what if he can't step on a crack and he runs from black *****...I mean cats...and is afraid to break a mirror...its not too outlandish to believe you control the fate of a team and its fans is it? Well yes it is, our team wasn't looking like an 7-9 or 6-10 team as he predicted and he didn't want to hear about it all season so he didn't come on. BTW releasing Cmac was a good move to free up 8 mil and Ozzie *does* know what hes doing, I don't understand the hate for him but I believe its called going against the grain for attention.

[EdReedUnstoppable]

Nah man leave ERU alone, so what if he can't step on a crack and he runs from black *****...I mean cats...and is afraid to break a mirror...its not too outlandish to believe you control the fate of a team and its fans is it? Well yes it is, our team wasn't looking like an 7-9 or 6-10 team as he predicted and he didn't want to hear about it all season so he didn't come on. BTW releasing Cmac was a good move to free up 8 mil and Ozzie *does* know what hes doing, I don't understand the hate for him but I believe its called going against the grain for attention.

Dude FU 2 years ago when all you blind ass whores were sayin we were a 12-4 team I told you all we were gonna suck and we did. We got lucky last year and got on a bit of a roll. Ouch I was wrong on a prediction, man that never happens to anyone on earth so Im really scared to here about it...... And do I come on here attacking what you believe in? No I don't so don't come on here talking **** to me for no reason.

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

What does that have to do with superstition? You do understand what that means right? Btw who are you?

Well you said you did not say nothing all season because you did not want to I guess jinx our season. So you saying "watch when we do not sign brown" is a way to jinx us as well. So yes I do know what it means. You obviously do not know what A good GM is. I am a Ravens fan and who are you?

[trkaline]

You make the same doomsday prediction every year you were bound to be right once.

[EdReedUnstoppable]

Well you said you did not say nothing all season because you did not want to I guess jinx our season. So you saying "watch when we do not sign brown" is a way to jinx us as well. So yes I do know what it means. You obviously do not know what A good GM is. I am a Ravens fan and who are you?

Im the OG Ravens fan here champ. And actually Im referring to what we deserve for throwin out a guy who bled for the organization and the way we went about it.......karma. I know what a good GM is, but Ive never seen a great one.

[EdReedUnstoppable]

You make the same doomsday prediction every year you were bound to be right once.

Nah not every year just the past 2 right one wrong on the other. Ill be sure to point out all the wrong **** you say from now on though, since you're perfect.

[trkaline]

I never claimed to be perfect, now your changing the situation to that when your just so negative on every aspect of our team and thats what I'm getting at. I dont think I've ever seen a post of yours that had anything good to say about our team is what I'm saying.

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

Im the OG Ravens fan here champ. And actually Im referring to what we deserve for throwin out a guy who bled for the organization and the way we went about it.......karma. I know what a good GM is, but Ive never seen a great one.

so who named you the OG ravens fan? If you did than guess what??? I am not the OG ravens fan. So eat em!!

[EdReedUnstoppable]

so who named you the OG ravens fan? If you did than guess what??? I am not the OG ravens fan. So eat em!!

WHAT? Basically I was sayin I was the first Ravens fan on this site, I dont really know what you just said though. Express yourself clearly next time.

[EdReedUnstoppable]

I never claimed to be perfect, now your changing the situation to that when your just so negative on every aspect of our team and thats what I'm getting at. I dont think I've ever seen a post of yours that had anything good to say about our team is what I'm saying.

Well some people like to be optimistic (spelling?), and some people like to be logical. Ive made plenty of posts that said positive stuff about the birds though, check the Dwan Edwards thing. I said it was a good move to keep him on for depth.....does that make you happy?

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

WHAT? Basically I was sayin I was the first Ravens fan on this site, I dont really know what you just said though. Express yourself clearly next time.

If you do not understand me saying "I am the new OG Raven fan and that you can eat them then that is your problem. I am sure when someone reads this they will understand completely. You can be the first on the site but that does not make what you say relevant. Look I never had a problem with what you say because we all have our opinions but your like the only Ravens fan who does not like our GM and you never have much positive **** to say. I mean it is my football team so I enjoy it. I just do not see how cutting C-mac was such a dumb move. I mean do you even want Ray Lewis to stay? Do you want a chance to get Suggs and Brown back? We are doing what we can to keep a good team.

[EdReedUnstoppable]

If you do not understand me saying "I am the new OG Raven fan and that you can eat them then that is your problem. I am sure when someone reads this they will understand completely. You can be the first on the site but that does not make what you say relevant. Look I never had a problem with what you say because we all have our opinions but your like the only Ravens fan who does not like our GM and you never have much positive **** to say. I mean it is my football team so I enjoy it. I just do not see how cutting C-mac was such a dumb move. I mean do you even want Ray Lewis to stay? Do you want a chance to get Suggs and Brown back? We are doing what we can to keep a good team.

Hey bud check your post again you didnt say "Im the new Og Ravens fan" if you had said that I would have known what you meant.

As for the other stuff, I do want Suggs and Brown back. And yes I'd absolutely love to have Ray back but Im not willing to bend over and let Ray have his way with us and lose 26 year olds who are tops at their respective positions such as Suggs and Brown. And bringin Ray back could cost us one of them. More importantly I feel the way CMac was treated on the way out was pretty pathetic. It makes us look like a hack organization to have your head coach telling you "your in our plans for next year" and then have the GM cut you 5 minutes later is unacceptable. Be straight up with the man and dont hide and do this behind the backunderhanded ****.

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

Hey bud check your post again you didnt say "Im the new Og Ravens fan" if you had said that I would have known what you meant.

As for the other stuff, I do want Suggs and Brown back. And yes I'd absolutely love to have Ray back but Im not willing to bend over and let Ray have his way with us and lose 26 year olds who are tops at their respective positions such as Suggs and Brown. And bringin Ray back could cost us one of them. More importantly I feel the way CMac was treated on the way out was pretty pathetic. It makes us look like a hack organization to have your head coach telling you "your in our plans for next year" and then have the GM cut you 5 minutes later is unacceptable. Be straight up with the man and dont hide and do this behind the backunderhanded ****.

Yea my fault I did not say that and I can see where you were confused :)
I think cutting C-Mac gave us a better chance at resigning those guys. Yea maybe they went about it wrong but it still needed to be done. I just think Ray deserves a big contract. There is not one person on our team more valuable than him IMO. Like I said in other posts Ray deserves that contract and it just sucks that it is happening this year. Basically I see it as if we lose Ray we lose to much morale to have a good season next year.

[EdReedUnstoppable]

Yea my fault I did not say that and I can see where you were confused :)
I think cutting C-Mac gave us a better chance at resigning those guys. Yea maybe they went about it wrong but it still needed to be done. I just think Ray deserves a big contract. There is not one person on our team more valuable than him IMO. Like I said in other posts Ray deserves that contract and it just sucks that it is happening this year. Basically I see it as if we lose Ray we lose to much morale to have a good season next year.

Well this certainly doesnt help me look less negative but.......I think you can re-sign Ray all you want and we're still not gonna have a good season next year. We have 0 good CBs on the team now, and we're gonna be up against the cap if we get Ray/Suggs/Brown back, not to mention Landry and Koch wanting long-term deals. I dont see where the money is gonna come from to get a top WR (and it better not be Houshmandzadeh!), and to get at least 1 new CB on the FA market. If you dont address those areas then we're still playing for second place behind Pitt, and in a broader landscape 4th place behind Pittsburgh, NE, and Indy.

[ChewyRaven318]

Actually champ I was quiet during the season because we got on a roll and Im supersticious. F U btw, I want nothing more than to win, but Im not gonna sit and suck Ozzie's **** when he is one of the more overrated GMs of all-time!

Hmm, so tell me, what credentials do YOU have that make you think you can do a better job than Ozzie? Or for that matter, owning the team?

Look, i'm a huge skeptic about the '09 season. How long has it been since this team has had back to back winning seasons? Definitely a few seasons, but i'm hopeful that this year will change that. You wanna be a skeptic that's fine, but calling for the entire front office's head because you WANT to be a skeptic is just boneheaded, and really annoying. The only one I agree with on that list is The Fridge, but wanting to have Ozzie fired because YOU don't like his moves is just...I dunno. If that's your true opinion, then there's no reason for us to argue, because we obviously disagree quite a lot on that.

[Ravens1991]

Hmm, so tell me, what credentials do YOU have that make you think you can do a better job than Ozzie? Or for that matter, owning the team?


you may not agree w/ ERU but this is a message board where you can post your opinions and chat w/ people who hold similar interests.


and I agree w/ ERU I wish we could have handled the CMAC situation better. It still breaks my heart thinking about how we treated Trent Dilfer.

I really hope we can get Cmac back at a re-structured deal.



Also ERU about Landry and Koch. It wouldnt shock me if we let both Landry and Leonard go, well personally thats what I would do because I love Zbikowski, he would be the toughest SOB on one tough defense.

About Koch is he a FA? Because he is a freaking monster, I would perfer him over Scott. I love Koch that guy is a monster.

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

you may not agree w/ ERU but this is a message board where you can post your opinions and chat w/ people who hold similar interests.


and I agree w/ ERU I wish we could have handled the CMAC situation better. It still breaks my heart thinking about how we treated Trent Dilfer.

I really hope we can get Cmac back at a re-structured deal.



Also ERU about Landry and Koch. It wouldnt shock me if we let both Landry and Leonard go, well personally thats what I would do because I love Zbikowski, he would be the toughest SOB on one tough defense.

About Koch is he a FA? Because he is a freaking monster, I would perfer him over Scott. I love Koch that guy is a monster.

No comment ;)

[Ravens1991]

lol good pick up. But yes Sam Koch is a good punter I want him in purple for years to come.

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

lol good pick up. But yes Sam Koch is a good punter I want him in purple for years to come.

lol Yea I agree he has one hell of a leg. I am just hoping to see Lewis signed next then Brown.

[Ravens1991]

yea my order goes...


1a.Lewis
1b.Brown
2.Koch
3.Re-sign Cmac at a cheaper price

then go look for some FAs. I think we can replace Scott w/ Gooden then Landry/Leonard w/ Zbi/Nakamura

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

yea my order goes...


1a.Lewis
1b.Brown
2.Koch
3.Re-sign Cmac at a cheaper price

then go look for some FAs. I think we can replace Scott w/ Gooden then Landry/Leonard w/ Zbi/Nakamura

I would really like to keep one of Jim or Landry but if we can get C-mac back for cheaper I say we go with zibi or nakamura

[ChewyRaven318]

you may not agree w/ ERU but this is a message board where you can post your opinions and chat w/ people who hold similar interests.


and I agree w/ ERU I wish we could have handled the CMAC situation better. It still breaks my heart thinking about how we treated Trent Dilfer.

I really hope we can get Cmac back at a re-structured deal.



Also ERU about Landry and Koch. It wouldnt shock me if we let both Landry and Leonard go, well personally thats what I would do because I love Zbikowski, he would be the toughest SOB on one tough defense.

About Koch is he a FA? Because he is a freaking monster, I would perfer him over Scott. I love Koch that guy is a monster.

You're right. I mean that's basically my point, I'm just saying if you always want to be a team skeptic, go be a fan of the Lions or something. Quite a few teams would KILL to have the organization that we do, so I just don't get it. Good GMs and Owners are hard to find. GREAT GMs and Owners are even harderer to find. Remember that.

Landry is a RFA and will be tendered, Koch is a RFA as well, I believe. He'll also be tendered. Leonhard might end up in NY, but you never know.

[jkpigskin]

haha bigdawg and ERU always going against the grain

but im kinda torn about this move... but i lean to the side of liking it,
CMAC still has stuff left in his tank but not 9MILLION.
i would not mind getting rid of rolle to and going after a FA corner and drafting one.

whose available??? dunta robinson? Nnamdi Asomugha? we probably cant afford asomugha, but i wouldnt mind our secondary to look like this next year

CB: Dunta Robinson
CB: Fabian Washington
CB: Draft pick
CB:Frank Walker
CB: Corey Ivy

[BmoreBlackByrdz]

haha bigdawg and ERU always going against the grain

but im kinda torn about this move... but i lean to the side of liking it,
CMAC still has stuff left in his tank but not 9MILLION.
i would not mind getting rid of rolle to and going after a FA corner and drafting one.

whose available??? dunta robinson? Nnamdi Asomugha? we probably cant afford asomugha, but i wouldnt mind our secondary to look like this next year

CB: Dunta Robinson
CB: Fabian Washington
CB: Draft pick
CB:Frank Walker
CB: Corey Ivy

That'd be better than Rolle being in there. I doubt we let go of Rolle though, for some reason they still believe hes a good corner. Or was that just Rex Ryan? I dunno, I'd rather him leave.

[RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES]

That'd be better than Rolle being in there. I doubt we let go of Rolle though, for some reason they still believe hes a good corner. Or was that just Rex Ryan? I dunno, I'd rather him leave.

he is as good as his paycheck!!!

[trkaline]

I've never been big on Rolle, but I don't think after letting Cmac go theres any chance they let him go too...unlessss they have a plan in place and this is the fun of the offseason.

[EdReedUnstoppable]

Hmm, so tell me, what credentials do YOU have that make you think you can do a better job than Ozzie? Or for that matter, owning the team?

Never said I could do a better job, I probably couldn't because Ive never had any experience in that area. But I can still criticize him if I choose to.

[EdReedUnstoppable]

you may not agree w/ ERU but this is a message board where you can post your opinions and chat w/ people who hold similar interests.


and I agree w/ ERU I wish we could have handled the CMAC situation better. It still breaks my heart thinking about how we treated Trent Dilfer.

I really hope we can get Cmac back at a re-structured deal.



Also ERU about Landry and Koch. It wouldnt shock me if we let both Landry and Leonard go, well personally thats what I would do because I love Zbikowski, he would be the toughest SOB on one tough defense.

About Koch is he a FA? Because he is a freaking monster, I would perfer him over Scott. I love Koch that guy is a monster.


Koch and Landry are RFA's but both want long-term deals instead of their one year tenders. I think Leonhard is a goner for sure, but I think we're bringin back Landry at leaston his 1 year rfa tender. While I agree that Zbikowski is gonna be a monster I think Nakamura could be even better!

[EdReedUnstoppable]

You're right. I mean that's basically my point, I'm just saying if you always want to be a team skeptic, go be a fan of the Lions or something. Quite a few teams would KILL to have the organization that we do, so I just don't get it. Good GMs and Owners are hard to find. GREAT GMs and Owners are even harderer to find. Remember that.

Landry is a RFA and will be tendered, Koch is a RFA as well, I believe. He'll also be tendered. Leonhard might end up in NY, but you never know.


Im always a team skeptic because what have we done the past 4 years? Been one of the most inconsistent franchises in the NFL (6-10/13-3/5-11/11-5). So yes while it could be worse and we could be the Lions, it could also be alot better. So despite what you may think or say, I am a Ravens fan, I bleed black + purple, I live and die on this friggin team and thats why I get so upset when I see things I dont like. If you dont like it, thats understandable, but don't tell me to go root for another team.

[Ravens1991]

Koch and Landry are RFA's but both want long-term deals instead of their one year tenders. I think Leonhard is a goner for sure, but I think we're bringin back Landry at leaston his 1 year rfa tender. While I agree that Zbikowski is gonna be a monster I think Nakamura could be even better!

Nakamura hurt Hines Ward so he is already on a great track :):):)