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Xiomera
03-05-2007, 06:46 PM
http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/nfldcleague

Members:

Xiomera
D-Unit
DHVF
DJP
Pats-Lions
Toonster
MaxV
Bsaza
Yodachu
Nerv (:eek: )

Let's decide on a draft date and time.

It has been proposed that we hold the draft this Sunday, March 11th . . . anyone object?

Xiomera
03-05-2007, 06:55 PM
Also, someone will need to contact Nerv . . . or if he reads this, he can contact me . . .

D-Unit
03-05-2007, 06:55 PM
Sunday? What time?

I prefer Saturday.

D-Unit
03-05-2007, 06:55 PM
Also, someone will need to contact Nerv . . . or if he reads this, he can contact me . . .
I see him on aim all the time. That dirty rotten scoundrel.

Xiomera
03-05-2007, 06:57 PM
bsaza said saturday doesn't work for him . . . but he wasn't specific as to times . . . maybe it is possible.

Do you guys wanna do this morning, afternoon or evening?

Toonster said he should be fine w/ Sunday . . .

D-Unit
03-05-2007, 07:03 PM
bsaza said saturday doesn't work for him . . . but he wasn't specific as to times . . . maybe it is possible.

Do you guys wanna do this morning, afternoon or evening?

Toonster said he should be fine w/ Sunday . . .
What time Sunday? I can't do 5PM - 9PM EST.

DHVF
03-05-2007, 07:04 PM
The later the better on Sunday for me.

D-Unit
03-05-2007, 07:18 PM
The later the better on Sunday for me.
You sure? Sunday is a school night... haha jk. Does that mean before 5PM EST is no good?

Xiomera
03-05-2007, 07:28 PM
Sunday evening would be best for me.

Let's get everyone else's opinions . . . yoda, P-L, djp, Max, bsaza, toon?

yodabear
03-05-2007, 09:08 PM
Sunday evening would be best for me.

Let's get everyone else's opinions . . . yoda, P-L, djp, Max, bsaza, toon?

Sometime after 5:30 EST works best for me.

DHVF
03-05-2007, 10:30 PM
You sure? Sunday is a school night... haha jk. Does that mean before 5PM EST is no good?

Oh you're right, pappa might beat me with the belt if I stay up late again.

Xiomera
03-06-2007, 07:34 AM
Oh you're right, pappa might beat me with the belt if I stay up late again.

Uh oh, I could be held partially responsable since it's my league . . . tell me, is your father a large, scary man?

bsaza2358
03-06-2007, 08:45 AM
I will be gone from Wednesday night to Saturday afternoon/evening in Atlantic City. I'm playing in the WSOP Circuit Event at Caeser's, plus GW is playing in the A-10 Tournament in AC. If GW makes the finals or I'm still playing, I won't be home until late Saturday night. I'll be available most of Sunday. I'd prefer Sunday night. After 7 PM EST is best for me.

Xiomera
03-06-2007, 12:40 PM
I think Sunday seems to work for everyone thus far . . . Anyone who objects better make this known ASAP.

We are looking at having the draft on Sunday March 11th, around 7 or 8 pm . . .

bsaza2358
03-06-2007, 03:15 PM
I am definitely good with that.

D-Unit
03-06-2007, 03:31 PM
I think Sunday seems to work for everyone thus far . . . Anyone who objects better make this known ASAP.

We are looking at having the draft on Sunday March 11th, around 7 or 8 pm . . .
Definately a bad time for me. Between 5 and 9PM EST on Sunday is bad. Before or after that is fine.

Who can't do it at 12 Noon EST?

bsaza2358
03-06-2007, 03:43 PM
I probably cannot due to other commitments that day. I can probably do 3 EST...

D-Unit
03-06-2007, 04:07 PM
I probably cannot due to other commitments that day. I can probably do 3 EST...
3PM EST. DEAL!

bsaza2358
03-06-2007, 04:10 PM
Is this a Man Law?

MaxV
03-06-2007, 05:40 PM
Sunday is good with me, at any time, as long as it's not too early, I don't want to get up at 5 am on weekends too.

BTW, how is the draft order gets decided?

D-Unit
03-06-2007, 07:12 PM
Sunday is good with me, at any time, as long as it's not too early, I don't want to get up at 5 am on weekends too.

BTW, how is the draft order gets decided?
Yahoo determines it randomly like 15 min before the draft.

yodabear
03-06-2007, 08:52 PM
3PM EST. DEAL!

3 EST is perfect for me, I only work til 2 EST now instead of 5 EST.

sweetness34
03-06-2007, 09:06 PM
Screw you people...I put my name out there and get shot down. I hate you Xiomera!

(It's backwards day).

DHVF
03-06-2007, 11:13 PM
Damn, I dunno if I'll be able to make the draft if it's starting that early, but I'll prerank.

D-Unit
03-07-2007, 12:38 AM
Nerv said he's fine with 3PM.

D-Unit
03-07-2007, 12:39 AM
I still think we should make it 12. There will be some stacked teams.

Xiomera
03-07-2007, 07:01 AM
3 pm on sunday the 11th it is . . . help me spread the word

bsaza2358
03-07-2007, 08:51 AM
I'm not against 12 teams in this case, but I will go with the commish's decision.

Xiomera
03-07-2007, 12:58 PM
I'm not against 12 teams in this case, but I will go with the commish's decision.

I would prefer a deep 10 team league. We have had 10 team leagues the past two years, and I think that worked pretty well. Rosters are large, and its important to build a complete group of players.

Also important, in a points only league, it is necessary to have at least some quality players available as free agents in the event of injuries. Luck plays too big of a role when you lose your top pick to injury for half a season and can't get anyone better than the 30th best player at his position as a replacement.

D-Unit
03-07-2007, 01:53 PM
I would prefer a deep 10 team league. We have had 10 team leagues the past two years, and I think that worked pretty well. Rosters are large, and its important to build a complete group of players.

Also important, in a points only league, it is necessary to have at least some quality players available as free agents in the event of injuries. Luck plays too big of a role when you lose your top pick to injury for half a season and can't get anyone better than the 30th best player at his position as a replacement.
Oh. Didn't realize it was 10 in the past. I'm fine with either.

bsaza2358
03-07-2007, 02:02 PM
D-Unit may be an Icon here, but he is nothing more than a peon in Xio's league...

Xiomera
03-07-2007, 02:12 PM
D-Unit may be an Icon here, but he is nothing more than a peon in Xio's league...

Hey, I got D-Unit his current gig.:confused: lol

D-Unit
03-07-2007, 02:17 PM
D-Unit may be an Icon here, but he is nothing more than a peon in Xio's league...
You managed to make me feel good and make me cry in one sentence. haha jk!

I'm not very good in fantasy baseball.










But I have the highest winning percentage in this league over the last 2 years!!! Mwuahahahahah!

MaxV
03-07-2007, 06:16 PM
This will only be my second year playing Fantasy Baseball, and I didn't do well last season. Hopefully this year it'll be different.

D-Unit
03-07-2007, 06:26 PM
I think this is Toonsters year to take the trophy home. I don't have high hopes of continuing my success. Too hard in a competition of this level. Even Superbowl teams come back to reality.

Xiomera
03-08-2007, 07:46 AM
Why did we lose the sticky? Someone please explain?

I think with all of the mods involved in this league we could at least be entitled to our own sticky . . .

D-Unit
03-08-2007, 11:27 AM
Can we move the time to 4PM EST? I think that still works for the guys who gave times before.

Xiomera
03-08-2007, 12:51 PM
Can we move the time to 4PM EST? I think that still works for the guys who gave times before.

Fine by me . . . anyone object?

We still haven't heard from a couple people . . .

Xiomera
03-09-2007, 02:26 PM
Just wanted to bump this to make it seen . . . I am waiting for confirmation from a few other guys on the draft date and time . . .

Sunday March 11th, 4 pm et

D-Unit
03-09-2007, 03:11 PM
Just wanted to bump this to make it seen . . . I am waiting for confirmation from a few other guys on the draft date and time . . .

Sunday March 11th, 4 pm et
Have you PM'd them? That should be good enough. Nerv is all good.

Xiomera
03-09-2007, 03:14 PM
Have you PM'd them? That should be good enough. Nerv is all good.

Everyone received a PM . . . MaxV is the only one to confirm that the time will work for him.

The draft will go on barring more than one person telling me they won't be there.

yodabear
03-09-2007, 09:23 PM
The time is fine with me. Xiomera and D-Unit are my heroes.

Xiomera
03-09-2007, 09:27 PM
The time is fine with me. Xiomera and D-Unit are my heroes.

We're like one of those classic famous teams. D-Unit's like Mozart and I'm like Mozart's friend. No, I'm like Butch Cassidy and D-Unit is like Mozart. You try and hurt Mozart, you're gonna get a bullet in your head, courtesy of Butch Cassidy.

yodabear
03-09-2007, 09:31 PM
We're like one of those classic famous teams. D-Unit's like Mozart and I'm like Mozart's friend. No, I'm like Butch Cassidy and D-Unit is like Mozart. You try and hurt Mozart, you're gonna get a bullet in your head, courtesy of Butch Cassidy.

So I'm Butch Cassidy....SWEET!

Xiomera
03-09-2007, 09:34 PM
So I'm Butch Cassidy....SWEET!

No, I am Butch Cassidy, D-Unit is mozart, and you can be Curly. Together we are like the three stooges.

yodabear
03-09-2007, 09:37 PM
No, I am Butch Cassidy, D-Unit is mozart, and you can be Curly. Together we are like the three stooges.

Sweet, can I be hit in the head with a pan?

Xiomera
03-09-2007, 09:40 PM
Sweet, can I be hit in the head with a pan?

I'd be disappointed if it didn't happen.

Xiomera
03-10-2007, 03:08 PM
Please review the changes I have made in the scoring system. I feel that they are now set to fairly value good hitting and good pitching.

For example (using last year's statistics), the top hitters and pitchers based off this system:

1. Albert Pujols (846 points)
2. David Ortiz (770.5 points)
3. Carlos Lee (736 points)
25. Travis Hafner (639 points)
50. Ryan Zimmerman (556.5 points)

1. Johan Santana (817.16 points)
2. Aaron Harang (720.33 points)
3. John Smoltz (708.5 points)
25. Barry Zito (593.5 points)
50. Feliz Hernandez (549 points)

Also worth noting:
The top closer - Francisco Rodriguez (#4 pitcher overall, 706 points)
The top Non-Closer RP - Scot Shields (434.67 points)

While I do admit certain flaws (power hitters are still slightly overvalued, as well as strikeout artists), it is the best system I can devise since the option for tracking ERA, Batting Average, WHIP, and OBP is not available.

Any constructive criticism and/or improvements are welcome . . .

Thoughts?

Xiomera
03-11-2007, 11:56 AM
reminder:

Draft Begins Today At 4 Pm Et

yodabear
03-11-2007, 02:51 PM
Draft right now, show up, or Xiomera and I will kill u. He will be doing the killing, I will be doing the eating.

Xiomera
03-11-2007, 02:58 PM
Draft right now, show up, or Xiomera and I will kill u. He will be doing the killing, I will be doing the eating.

QFT

[thats the first time i ever used this god forsaken abbreviation]

Xio Rules!

D-Unit
03-11-2007, 04:48 PM
So who's the team to beat? Can't belive I missed the draft. Was there day light savings time change or something?

Xiomera
03-11-2007, 04:50 PM
So who's the team to beat? Can't belive I missed the draft. Was there day light savings time change or something?

Yes, daylight savings time last night.

And I am the team to beat. i was the champ last year and until i get knocked off, i am it baby.

DHVF
03-11-2007, 04:57 PM
Pujols will rock your world Xio

Xiomera
03-11-2007, 05:47 PM
Pujols will rock your world Xio

Oh right . . . :rolleyes:


I need a Third Baseman . . . hit me up with offers . . .

toonsterwu
03-12-2007, 01:06 PM
forgot about this thread. who is Holy Diver? I want to talk.

Xiomera
03-12-2007, 01:12 PM
forgot about this thread. who is Holy Diver? I want to talk.

It's Nerv . . . his AOL screen name is kraqahx

bsaza2358
03-12-2007, 01:28 PM
Oh right . . . :rolleyes:


I need a Third Baseman . . . hit me up with offers . . .

I have several very good 3B's. Looking for quality SP's and SS. Willing to trade pretty much anyone, provided equivalent talent comes back.

toonsterwu
03-12-2007, 01:53 PM
I have several very good 3B's. Looking for quality SP's and SS. Willing to trade pretty much anyone, provided equivalent talent comes back.

I'd be interested in some of those guys ... dunno if we can work anything out, although I do have an extra shortstop as of now due to Glaus' ability at shortstop. I'll take a look ... but if you see anything you'd like to chat on, let me know.

bsaza2358
03-12-2007, 02:22 PM
Everyone on my team is available. Name your price...

D-Unit
03-12-2007, 02:31 PM
Everyone on my team is available. Name your price...
I sent you a PM. Did you get it?

bsaza2358
03-12-2007, 03:07 PM
I got it and wrote back, my man...

toonsterwu
03-12-2007, 03:43 PM
yahoo autodraft was odd.

anyhow, i'm shopping dan haren ... in the right deal ...

bsaza2358
03-12-2007, 03:45 PM
I sent you a PM with an offer. I'm open to counters.

Xiomera
03-12-2007, 03:47 PM
Guys on my trade block: Ben Sheets, Justin Verlander, Tom Glavine, Frank Thomas, Raul Ibanez, Freddy Sanchez, Mike Piazza, Russell Martin . . .

Basically anyone can be had with the exception of Hafner, Oswalt, Bay, and likely Reyes.

bsaza2358
03-12-2007, 03:59 PM
Unlike Xio, everyone on my team can be had in a trade. I'm not a spoil-sport. If you're willing to offer me talent, I will give you anyone.

Xiomera
03-12-2007, 04:28 PM
Hey, I am in search of a decent 3rd or 4th outfielder . . .

Anyone want Frank Thomas?

D-Unit
03-12-2007, 04:55 PM
Looking for an OF...

P-L
03-12-2007, 10:06 PM
I'm looking for a top starter. Anyone is available for the right price, but I'll be reluctant to trade Cabrera or Ortiz.

DHVF
03-13-2007, 12:01 AM
Everyone on my team is available

D-Unit
03-13-2007, 02:16 PM
Nice Trade Xio and Yoda. Xio is trader bob this year!

D-Unit
03-13-2007, 02:54 PM
DJP and PL get on AIM or check your PMs.

bsaza2358
03-13-2007, 03:22 PM
I liked that trade. I didn't really have the horses to offer there. I am still interested in Jose Reyes or Hanley Ramirez. The owners of these players are welcome to make me offers.

MaxV
03-13-2007, 09:53 PM
I like how the draft went for me. I kind of wish I would've drafted another closer, I thought there would be some available in later rounds, I was wrong.

I guess it's possible that Wickman gets rocked early and Braves go with Mike Gonzalez.

I am open to a trade, if the right deal is offered. Unlike others, I'm a bit hesitant to deal my top players, but if I'm offered a great return I would certainly consider it.

DHVF
03-13-2007, 10:58 PM
Are we gonna have any DL spots?

D-Unit
03-14-2007, 01:28 AM
Are we gonna have any DL spots?
Supposed to be 2. I don't think players will be able for the DL until the season starts.

bsaza2358
03-14-2007, 08:55 AM
Technically, no one is on the DL right now, so there is no "DL"...

DHVF
03-14-2007, 10:11 PM
Supposed to be 2. I don't think players will be able for the DL until the season starts.

Alright thanks. I was pondering what to do with Pedro, but decided to release him anyways, as he'll be back in August at the earliest.

bsaza2358
03-15-2007, 09:27 AM
Pedro is poop.

Xiomera
03-17-2007, 09:11 AM
I am done making deals until the season starts. Unless of course someone wants Frank Thomas.

bsaza2358
03-19-2007, 01:16 PM
I am not done making deals because I never started. I have a ton of solid bats. There is start-worthy talent on my bench. I'm willing to trade for pitching upgrades or positional upgrades. Take your pick.

Xiomera
03-19-2007, 02:13 PM
I am not done making deals because I never started. I have a ton of solid bats. There is start-worthy talent on my bench. I'm willing to trade for pitching upgrades or positional upgrades. Take your pick.

I'll take Bonderman, lol

bsaza2358
03-20-2007, 12:24 PM
I said pitching upgrade, not trading off my stud ace for spare parts...

Xiomera
03-20-2007, 12:26 PM
I said pitching upgrade, not trading off my stud ace for spare parts...

I know . . . I was kidding.

OK, how about Bonderman for Verlander and someone . . . ? lol, just kidding

Giantsfan1080
03-20-2007, 05:15 PM
I'm still mad I wasn't invited back to this league this year even though I finished 2nd or 3rd last year.

D-Unit
03-20-2007, 05:36 PM
I'm still mad I wasn't invited back to this league this year even though I finished 2nd or 3rd last year.
You were in the other NFLDC league. ...with WMD, Hchu, Nerv, Tobzilla, Sarf, Scott...

This one with Xio, Toonster, DJP, DHVF, PL has been going on for couple years now... this is our 3rd year...

Giantsfan1080
03-20-2007, 05:40 PM
Yeah I'm not really mad. I just wanted to be in that league because of the good competition.

toonsterwu
03-20-2007, 05:52 PM
If a fair deal comes along, I'm still interested. Otherwise, laying low for a bit as I don't see many significant areas that need tweaking. Some potential areas I'd consider upgrading:

1st base - While I'm perfectly fine with Sexson/LaRoche as their concerns are balanced out in other areas, if someone wants to explore a swap that would lead to a better first baseman, that would intrigue. I've got some spare parts I'd part with.

P - Moves to upgrade my starting staff (which I'm fairly pleased, although there is one pitcher I want, but can't get it seems), or upgrade my RP will also be considered. I don't necessarily need to add a RP, but rather, if there's someone better, it'd be on the mind.

2nd - Barfield/Roberts is a nice tag team, but if there's something better, I'll listen.

OF bat

Btw, LaRoche is still eminently available due to depth at first base. Not going to dump him, though.

Xiomera
03-21-2007, 01:20 PM
Yeah I'm not really mad. I just wanted to be in that league because of the good competition.

Sorry man. If I had room for eleven, I would have taken you.

bsaza2358
03-21-2007, 04:15 PM
I am only looking at SS as an upgradable position, but Bill Hall could be golden for me this year. I really like my team.

DHVF
03-23-2007, 10:44 PM
ummm......bump?

D-Unit
03-27-2007, 08:44 PM
I think DJP has the team to beat.

bsaza2358
03-28-2007, 12:09 PM
DJP has a really good team. My squad is very much dependent on Bill Hall to repeat his 2006. I expect to be top half.

Oh yeah, I'm honored to have made D-Unit's sig. Actual quote, too!

Xiomera
03-28-2007, 01:17 PM
I think DJP has the team to beat.

Nah, he needs another closer. He has a pretty weak middle infield, and his top two starters pitch for the same team (something that I find risky).

I don't see anyone as a clear favorite.

bsaza2358
03-28-2007, 02:07 PM
With a 10 team league, everyone had the opportunity to make good picks. Every team has star players. We also don't know exactly how the updated scoring system is going to work out. It could be a very interesting season.

D-Unit
03-28-2007, 02:52 PM
I really like my waiver wire pick ups so far.

I think Brad Hawpe is prime for a breakout year. Nobody drafted Gary Matthews probably because of the steroid stories, but I don't think that'll affect his game. He seems to be really committed to having a good year. Wade Miller is just a try out... we'll see if he can continue his hot spring into the regular season. He's always been a terrific talent. I like that he's pitching for the Cubs who I think will have a great year. Oliver Perez is another try out, but pitching for the Mets is an upgrade over the Pirates.

My 2 specialties are Chris Duncan and Khalil Greene. Both have been sizzlin' this spring and I have high hopes for them.

toonsterwu
03-28-2007, 04:08 PM
For my 20,000th post, I was going to either talk about the Snow Patrol concert I went to last night (it was alright ... good time, but that was more cause it was free tickets we picked up for someone, so anything free is always fine with me - had a footlong hotdog and knish ... thing filled me up (although maybe it was the beer ... ), overall Snow Patrol does a solid job of playing to the crowd, and I find the Irish background, but Scottish group thing to be funny to me), but decided to give my pick on who's the team to beat. Everyone's awful close on paper right now, but if there's no significant injuries, my on paper nod goes to Green Bean surprise. Of course, he might need some depth help for when Barry Bonds and Larry Jones go on their usual "sabbaticals" ... but I think he has a nice blend on that team.

bsaza2358
03-28-2007, 04:11 PM
I really like my waiver wire pick ups so far.

I think Brad Hawpe is prime for a breakout year. Nobody drafted Gary Matthews probably because of the steroid stories, but I don't think that'll affect his game. He seems to be really committed to having a good year. Wade Miller is just a try out... we'll see if he can continue his hot spring into the regular season. He's always been a terrific talent. I like that he's pitching for the Cubs who I think will have a great year. Oliver Perez is another try out, but pitching for the Mets is an upgrade over the Pirates.

My 2 specialties are Chris Duncan and Khalil Greene. Both have been sizzlin' this spring and I have high hopes for them.

Hawpe rolled his ankle yesterday, but he should be okay. Matthews is 31 and historically has been average. If he's starting for you in a 10 team league, I really pity you.

Khalil Greene, I really like for you.

Duncan is a little overrated. I wouldn't start him, but I have ridiculous OF's.

toonsterwu
03-28-2007, 04:19 PM
Btw, I think Hawpe's "breakout" was last year ... somewhat. He was .293/.383/.515, which is pretty good for a guy whose skillset isn't considered to be that great. Of course ... there is that one big concern ... that of ... well, being a platoon player. If he can somewhat improve against lefty pitchers, he could be lethal.

I think bsaza is right on why no one drafted Matthews. Most people view last year as somewhat of a fluke for him on account of ballpark and a number of other factors. We'll see, though. Texas' hitting coach (um, Jaramillo?) has done good job fixing swings with guys in the past ... but can he keep it consistent now?

I think Greene might be back closer to what he was two years ago, which should be decent for the position.

Duncan I think can be a solid bat, although topping last year is going to be hard for him. That said, he too could stand to improve against lefties, and if that happens, could be intriguing.

That being said, D-Unit's really done a nice job reshaping his team after missing the draft.

bsaza2358
03-28-2007, 04:24 PM
When healthy, Greene is a second tier fantasy SS, which is pretty much in line with his actual stature in baseball. His injury prone last few seasons have robbed SD and baseball of a pretty good player. He'll never be an all-world kind of guy, but he is very productive.

Xiomera
03-28-2007, 08:09 PM
Btw, I think Hawpe's "breakout" was last year ... somewhat. He was .293/.383/.515, which is pretty good for a guy whose skillset isn't considered to be that great. Of course ... there is that one big concern ... that of ... well, being a platoon player. If he can somewhat improve against lefty pitchers, he could be lethal.

I think bsaza is right on why no one drafted Matthews. Most people view last year as somewhat of a fluke for him on account of ballpark and a number of other factors. We'll see, though. Texas' hitting coach (um, Jaramillo?) has done good job fixing swings with guys in the past ... but can he keep it consistent now?

I think Greene might be back closer to what he was two years ago, which should be decent for the position.

Duncan I think can be a solid bat, although topping last year is going to be hard for him. That said, he too could stand to improve against lefties, and if that happens, could be intriguing.

That being said, D-Unit's really done a nice job reshaping his team after missing the draft.

Unbelievable! I never thought he'd end up competitive.

D-Unit
03-28-2007, 09:07 PM
Unbelievable! I never thought he'd end up competitive.
Missing the draft because of Daylight Savings Time is pretty messed up. Yahoo dealt me a pile of poop. ...only picks I really liked were Utley and Dice-K. The rest were pretty bad reaches. Even Mauer, I wouldn't have taken in Rnd 3.

Round Pick Player Position
1. (7) Chase Utley 2B
2. (14) Francisco Rodríguez RP
3. (27) Joe Mauer C
4. (34) Aaron Harang SP
5. (47) Daisuke Matsuzaka SP
6. (54) Jered Weaver SP
7. (67) Cole Hamels SP
8. (74) Jonathan Papelbon RP
9. (87) Takashi Saito RP
10. (94) Troy Tulowitzki SS
11. (107) Chris Shelton 1B
12. (114) Alex Gordon 3B
13. (127) Todd Jones RP
14. (134) Francisco Cordero RP
15. (147) José Valverde RP
16. (154) Joel Zumaya RP
17. (167) Pat Burrell OF
18. (174) Nomar Garciaparra 1B
19. (187) Brandon Wood SS
20. (194) Juan Rivera OF
21. (207) Akinori Iwamura 3B
22. (214) John Patterson SP
23. (227) Cliff Floyd OF
24. (234) Ken Griffey Jr. OF

P-L
03-28-2007, 10:00 PM
Getting K-Rod in the 2nd was pretty rough.

DHVF
03-28-2007, 10:09 PM
For my 20,000th post, I was going to either talk about the Snow Patrol concert I went to last night (it was alright ... good time, but that was more cause it was free tickets we picked up for someone, so anything free is always fine with me - had a footlong hotdog and knish ... thing filled me up (although maybe it was the beer ... ), overall Snow Patrol does a solid job of playing to the crowd, and I find the Irish background, but Scottish group thing to be funny to me), but decided to give my pick on who's the team to beat. Everyone's awful close on paper right now, but if there's no significant injuries, my on paper nod goes to Green Bean surprise. Of course, he might need some depth help for when Barry Bonds and Larry Jones go on their usual "sabbaticals" ... but I think he has a nice blend on that team.
I'm truly honored toonster, but who is Larry Jones?

Xiomera
03-28-2007, 10:16 PM
C.C. Sabathia is hurt . . . Damn you yodachu!

toonsterwu
03-29-2007, 12:07 AM
I'm truly honored toonster, but who is Larry Jones?

Isn't Chipper Jones real name Larry Wayne Jones?

toonsterwu
03-29-2007, 12:08 AM
Missing the draft because of Daylight Savings Time is pretty messed up. Yahoo dealt me a pile of poop. ...only picks I really liked were Utley and Dice-K. The rest were pretty bad reaches. Even Mauer, I wouldn't have taken in Rnd 3.

Round Pick Player Position
1. (7) Chase Utley 2B
2. (14) Francisco Rodríguez RP
3. (27) Joe Mauer C
4. (34) Aaron Harang SP
5. (47) Daisuke Matsuzaka SP
6. (54) Jered Weaver SP
7. (67) Cole Hamels SP
8. (74) Jonathan Papelbon RP
9. (87) Takashi Saito RP
10. (94) Troy Tulowitzki SS
11. (107) Chris Shelton 1B
12. (114) Alex Gordon 3B
13. (127) Todd Jones RP
14. (134) Francisco Cordero RP
15. (147) José Valverde RP
16. (154) Joel Zumaya RP
17. (167) Pat Burrell OF
18. (174) Nomar Garciaparra 1B
19. (187) Brandon Wood SS
20. (194) Juan Rivera OF
21. (207) Akinori Iwamura 3B
22. (214) John Patterson SP
23. (227) Cliff Floyd OF
24. (234) Ken Griffey Jr. OF

I think Mauer is okay in the 3rd due to positional value.

DHVF
03-29-2007, 12:26 AM
Isn't Chipper Jones real name Larry Wayne Jones?
Learn something new everyday.

Icon
03-29-2007, 02:16 PM
so i have a lot of offense that im looking to trade for some pitching, could use another rp most but sp is a need too. look/send stuff to holy diver

Xiomera
03-30-2007, 08:09 PM
so i have a lot of offense that im looking to trade for some pitching, could use another rp most but sp is a need too. look/send stuff to holy diver

Hey there buddy . . . lol

Nice to see you again

Xiomera
03-31-2007, 10:40 PM
Everyone got their rosters set? Season starts on Sunday night!

MaxV
03-31-2007, 11:06 PM
Why can't I add Clemens to the DL?

P-L
03-31-2007, 11:14 PM
so i have a lot of offense that im looking to trade for some pitching, could use another rp most but sp is a need too. look/send stuff to holy diver
Give me Berkman.

yodabear
04-01-2007, 12:18 AM
C.C. Sabathia is hurt . . . Damn you yodachu!

That is what I am doing with Reyes. He is gonna get hurt, I have that feeling.

yodabear
04-01-2007, 12:44 AM
DHVF, I have a feeling Pujols will get hurt, u may need to get rid of him.

DHVF
04-01-2007, 01:32 AM
DHVF, I have a feeling Pujols will get hurt, u may need to get rid of him.
I agree. You want him?

yodabear
04-01-2007, 01:36 AM
I agree. You want him?

Yes, I do.

Icon
04-01-2007, 03:07 PM
Give me Berkman.

pl offer me something in irc or well talk about it in there im willing to deal berkie

toonsterwu
04-02-2007, 05:21 AM
Been awhile since I looked at this. I think, if anything, I'm looking for pitching right now, starting and closing. I feel fairly comfortable with the rest of my roster now. Completely forgot about Ryan Shealy, and unless I missed something this spring, Shealy may allow me to shop Sexson at some point down the line, although that's at a yet undetermined date.

Xiomera
04-02-2007, 01:23 PM
Just wanted to point out that I am in first place . . . thank you for your time.

P-L
04-02-2007, 02:02 PM
Just wanted to point out that I am in first place . . . thank you for your time.

I'd be in second if I didn't forget to move Lo Duca off the bench. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon8.gif

Xiomera
04-02-2007, 02:03 PM
I'd be in second if I didn't forget to move Lo Duca off the bench. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon8.gif

I had Glavine in your Mod league too, and he was sitting on my bench. Cost me 21 points! http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon8.gif

D-Unit
04-02-2007, 04:38 PM
Get rid of the negative points for strikeouts... that's crap.

Xiomera
04-02-2007, 04:56 PM
Get rid of the negative points for strikeouts... that's crap.

Nah, it makes the fantasy value of a guy like Adam Dunn more realistic. Power stats come at a price.

MaxV
04-03-2007, 08:17 AM
I did well in my first day. I still don't know what to do with Clemens.

To be honest I'm kinda afraid that as soon as a waive him, he'll announce that he's coming back.

bsaza2358
04-03-2007, 11:00 AM
Contreras killed me Day 1, but it is a long season. Encouraged by Adam Dunn's start, but he has been red hot every April. Just glad baseball is back!

Xiomera
04-03-2007, 11:39 AM
Updated Trade Block:

Bobby Jenks
Justin Verlander
Adrian Beltre
Mike Piazza/Russell Martin
Frank Thomas (he'd come cheap)

bsaza2358
04-03-2007, 01:13 PM
I have a variety of hitters that I'd be willing to trade. All of them are available for the right price. SP upgrades or a possible upgrade from Bill Hall at SS would most likely get the most interest.

D-Unit
04-03-2007, 03:01 PM
Updated Trade Block:

Bobby Jenks
Justin Verlander
Adrian Beltre
Mike Piazza/Russell Martin
Frank Thomas (he'd come cheap)
What are you looking for?

toonsterwu
04-03-2007, 04:15 PM
I'd be interested in Thomas, depending on the cost. And you know there's a pitcher I'm still interested in.

Xiomera
04-03-2007, 08:11 PM
What are you looking for?

A hitter (preferrably an OF), or an upgrade at starting pitcher.

Xiomera
04-03-2007, 08:12 PM
I'd be interested in Thomas, depending on the cost. And you know there's a pitcher I'm still interested in.

I will revisit talks for Bush if you wanna propose a deal. Thomas can be involved.

I am most interested in Haren, or one of your top outfielders.

P-L
04-03-2007, 10:23 PM
I'm still looking for a starting pitching upgrade. I might be willing to package two pitchers to get a top starter. I'd also like to add another bat, probably a 1B.

D-Unit
04-04-2007, 02:00 AM
Xio let me know what you want for Jenks.

Xiomera
04-04-2007, 07:07 AM
Xio let me know what you want for Jenks.

K-Rod or Rivera

bsaza2358
04-04-2007, 10:21 AM
My team is stinking up the joint, but I expect things to improve. Some ridiculous negative point totals for some players to date...

bsaza2358
04-04-2007, 05:15 PM
WOW! A single win from a pitcher is worth 18 points. That's incredible...

Xiomera
04-04-2007, 07:45 PM
WOW! A single win from a pitcher is worth 18 points. That's incredible...

Thats the only way to even out pitching-hitting points . . . I believe you were the one who was most insistant upon that. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif

Xiomera
04-04-2007, 08:09 PM
I am looking to do a two-for-one type swap for a hitter.

I want to package some combination of Beltre, Frank Thomas, Mike Piazza, Tom Glavine, Dave Bush, and Jonathan Broxton for a hitter.

I am looking at Outfielders primarily.

Anyone looking to boost their offense or add depth, this is your chance.

toonsterwu
04-04-2007, 08:26 PM
I don't have anything that I think matches up with Xiomera, but if any team can grab Dave Bush, know that I would be willing to make a bid.

MaxV
04-04-2007, 09:55 PM
Thats the only way to even out pitching-hitting points . . . I believe you were the one who was most insistant upon that. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif

Acctually I said that I didn't like that. Wins are kind of overrated for pitchers.

Case and Point:

Steve Trachsel won 15 games last year with a 4.97 ERA.

Xiomera
04-04-2007, 10:02 PM
Acctually I said that I didn't like that. Wins are kind of overrated for pitchers.

Case and Point:

Steve Trachsel won 15 games last year with a 4.97 ERA.

And yet he doesn't appear in the top 50 pitchers based off last year's stats and this leagues point system.

Wins count for a lot, yes, but ER count against you. That's why the top pitchers are still gonna be the ones with the best combination of W, ERA, and K's.

D-Unit
04-05-2007, 07:23 AM
Hey, I don't like the strikeout category, but that's the way it is... I didn't realize it was a stat we were tracking...so that's my fault. The point system on pitchers is nuts, but you all wanted to make pitchers scoring even with batters and now it is.

Xiomera
04-05-2007, 07:30 AM
Hey, I don't like the strikeout category, but that's the way it is... I didn't realize it was a stat we were tracking...so that's my fault. The point system on pitchers is nuts, but you all wanted to make pitchers scoring even with batters and now it is.

I will admit that the point system is crazy, but in the end, point totals should be similar among the top pitchers and hitters.

Xiomera
04-05-2007, 07:36 AM
Check your Private Messages D

bsaza2358
04-05-2007, 08:28 AM
I am fine with the points system. I just had no idea it was that significant at the time. We'll see how we did at the end of the year.

D-Unit
04-05-2007, 08:47 AM
Check your Private Messages D
Ummm... Not really interested in that deal.

MaxV
04-05-2007, 10:34 AM
Maine was MONEY for me yesterday. I hope he does that the whole season.

D-Unit
04-05-2007, 06:08 PM
DICE-KKKKKKKKKK!

Xiomera
04-05-2007, 09:11 PM
DICE-KKKKKKKKKK!

Two words: The Royals

yodabear
04-05-2007, 09:16 PM
Two words: The Royals

Two words:Mark Grudzielanek.

D-Unit
04-06-2007, 04:31 AM
Two words: The Royals
Two words and a smilie: You're jealous! :D

Xiomera
04-06-2007, 07:01 AM
Just a reminder: This league has a season long innings pitched limit of 1700 innings. Once you have 1700 innings in the books, you can no longer receive any pitching points.

You can see how many innings you have left to use, and the pace at which you use them my clicking on "Maximum Games and Innings" at the bottom of your team roster page. On average, you have 9.5 innings pitcher per day to spend.

There is also a limit for the # of games started for each position (170 starts). Just keep this in mind.

Xiomera
04-06-2007, 12:17 PM
Who wants a closer? Al Reyes (TB) is up for grabs.

D-Unit
04-07-2007, 07:58 AM
First place just feels right.

Xiomera
04-07-2007, 12:44 PM
All these games being postponed is killing me.

yodabear
04-07-2007, 02:02 PM
Gil Meche Is My Newest Addition! He Is Gonna Win The Cy Young!

Xiomera
04-07-2007, 07:15 PM
Gil Meche Is My Newest Addition! He Is Gonna Win The Cy Young!

He lost to Detroit today . . . :rolleyes:

Xiomera
04-07-2007, 07:15 PM
I want a starting pitching upgrade. Talk to me folks . . .

toonsterwu
04-08-2007, 12:24 AM
I want a starting pitching upgrade. Talk to me folks . . .

I'm still interested in Dave Bush ... although I'm not sold that there's a fit.

Icon
04-08-2007, 02:00 AM
He lost to Detroit today . . . :rolleyes:

Yes but losing to Detroit is a given

Xiomera
04-08-2007, 10:22 AM
Yes but losing to Detroit is a given

Yo, you wanna deal? I think you could use a closer . . .

D-Unit
04-08-2007, 05:54 PM
Yo, you wanna deal? I think you could use a closer . . .
Nobody wants Reyes or Weathers... otherwise we would've picked them up ourselves. :D

Xiomera
04-08-2007, 06:21 PM
Nobody wants Reyes or Weathers... otherwise we would've picked them up ourselves. :D

I don't think you're all that smart.

Saves are a huge comidity. In this league, where the maximum innings pitched for the season is set at 1700, it's important to maximize the usage of these innings. Closers get 10-15 points per save, and it only uses up one inning. Yes, wins count for a lot in this league, but it takes more innings to get them. The average victory is about 30 pts, but it generally takes 6-7 innings to acheive that. Not to mention the fact that there are only 30 legit closers in the game. There are probably 65-70 starters that will prove worthy of a roster spot.

Bottom Line: The more closers you have, the better. I would much rather have 5 closers than 5 good starters.

D-Unit
04-08-2007, 06:33 PM
I don't think you're all that smart.

Saves are a huge comidity. In this league, where the maximum innings pitched for the season is set at 1700, it's important to maximize the usage of these innings. Closers get 10-15 points per save, and it only uses up one inning. Yes, wins count for a lot in this league, but it takes more innings to get them. The average victory is about 30 pts, but it generally takes 6-7 innings to acheive that. Not to mention the fact that there are only 30 legit closers in the game. There are probably 65-70 starters that will prove worthy of a roster spot.

Bottom Line: The more closers you have, the better. I would much rather have 5 closers than 5 good starters.
That's where I think you're not the smart one. LOL. Not all closers are good.

Xiomera
04-08-2007, 06:37 PM
That's where I think you're not the smart one. LOL. Not all closers are good.

Fine, trade Torres, K-Rod and Rivera to me.

Name your price.

toonsterwu
04-09-2007, 05:24 PM
The problem isn't that saves are valuable, it's that few expect Reyes to keep that job. Weathers, now, he might be able to keep the job as, well, they don't have many other options. But at some point, TB might turn it over to a younger arm since they aren't likely to compete this year. Someone like Juan Salas or Ruddy Lugo. There's some other setup arms that I would probably chance it on before Reyes.

Anyhow, Xio, I'm trying to figure out a 2 for 2 swap involving Haren and you know who. I'm trying to figure out who the other two would be, though. If you come up with any ideas that may interest, let me know.

Xiomera
04-09-2007, 05:29 PM
The problem isn't that saves are valuable, it's that few expect Reyes to keep that job. Weathers, now, he might be able to keep the job as, well, they don't have many other options. But at some point, TB might turn it over to a younger arm since they aren't likely to compete this year. Someone like Juan Salas or Ruddy Lugo. There's some other setup arms that I would probably chance it on before Reyes.

That's why I am willing to deal Jenks, Jones and my other closers too. I don't expect an arm and a leg for Weather/Reyes, but they definatly have value.

D-Unit
04-09-2007, 06:38 PM
Looks like that Dan Wheeler trade for Yoda is starting to look better...

Xiomera
04-09-2007, 06:55 PM
Looks like that Dan Wheeler trade for Yoda is starting to look better...

Looks pretty much even thus far. Uggla and Phillips were always very close. Jones is still a better closer than Wheeler.

RoyHall#1
04-09-2007, 07:27 PM
Hey who wants in on a MLB draft on NFLDC? It's under MLB Draft (surprisingly) so sign up. It doesn't exactly have a reliable administrator but if he screws up someone reliable can take over.

yodabear
04-09-2007, 08:39 PM
U guys have no marbles, where are they, I got some. MARBLES!

Xiomera
04-09-2007, 09:15 PM
U guys have no marbles, where are they, I got some. MARBLES!

I have balls, not marbles. WTF yoda? You had better see a doctor.

D-Unit
04-11-2007, 07:45 AM
Those marbles are no match for my apples.

MaxV
04-11-2007, 10:58 AM
I'm rooting for Henry Owens to take Marlins' closer job. I'm pretty sure Julio won't hold it for too long.

Xiomera
04-11-2007, 01:27 PM
I'm rooting for Henry Owens to take Marlins' closer job. I'm pretty sure Julio won't hold it for too long.

lol, chances are Owens won't hold it too long either

MaxV
04-11-2007, 09:51 PM
Felix, Young and James each with awesome games. They help me get a little breathing room.

Xiomera
04-11-2007, 10:09 PM
I will trade Billy Wagner straight up for an OF. Send me offers if you want a top 5 closer in return.

D-Unit
04-12-2007, 08:22 AM
I will trade Billy Wagner straight up for an OF. Send me offers if you want a top 5 closer in return.
With a grand total of 16 points, it's pretty clear to see why he's so easy for you to give up. It's why the value for closers is overrated.

MaxV
04-12-2007, 11:00 AM
With a grand total of 16 points, it's pretty clear to see why he's so easy for you to give up. It's why the value for closers is overrated.

Well, to be fair, the Mets have only given Wagner 1 save opportunity.

Historically speaking, Mets is a team that is involved in A LOT of close games, so they rely on a closer heavily.

I'm pretty sure Wagner will put up pretty good Fantasy numbers, if he stays healthy.

Xiomera
04-12-2007, 12:07 PM
With a grand total of 16 points, it's pretty clear to see why he's so easy for you to give up. It's why the value for closers is overrated.

I'll trade Ryan, Jones, Jenks, or Cordero too. Wagner has the best value of them all (well, except for Ryan perhaps), I figured I could get the best OF in return by trading him.

Wagner has been a top 5 closer for several years now. You're worried that he has just one save after a week and a half?

P-L
04-12-2007, 12:26 PM
Xio, let me look at my team. I may be interested in Wagner.

Xiomera
04-12-2007, 01:26 PM
Xio, let me look at my team. I may be interested in Wagner.

You know where to find me . . . I want an OF, SP, or 1B in return.

I can throw in a guy like Frank Thomas or Tom Glavine to even up a deal if necessary.

Xiomera
04-13-2007, 02:16 PM
Watch out folks, Xio is making a comeback . . .

Xiomera
04-13-2007, 09:51 PM
I want to make a deal folks. You all can't be totally content with your teams . . .

D-Unit
04-14-2007, 08:41 AM
I want to make a deal folks. You all can't be totally content with your teams . . .
Dude, it is not us.... You are the one that is tough to work with because your price is always so high. In 3 years in MLB and NFL Fantasy Leagues, we have only made one trade. I have made tons and tons of trades with everyone else. I am not even looking for a trade, but when I get back from Japan, I have a feeling that I will make a trade in the first week back while you have not made one yet... LOL.

Xiomera
04-14-2007, 09:58 AM
Dude, it is not us.... You are the one that is tough to work with because your price is always so high. In 3 years in MLB and NFL Fantasy Leagues, we have only made one trade. I have made tons and tons of trades with everyone else. I am not even looking for a trade, but when I get back from Japan, I have a feeling that I will make a trade in the first week back while you have not made one yet... LOL.

I don't deal with you because you offer me deals like Jeff Francouer for Billy Wagner.http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon13.gif

Not to mention the fact that I don't like to deal with my biggest opponant. Doesn't make a lot of sense.

I hardly think my asking price is too high. I am content to stand pat with what I have if necessary.

Xiomera
04-15-2007, 11:35 AM
I am looking to trade some of my pitching for hitting.

Guys I am more than willing to deal: Bobby Jenks, Tom Glavine, David Weathers, Al Reyes, Dave Bush, Nate Robertson, and perhaps Billy Wagner.

I will also trade Travis Hafner for an Outfielder.

I am looking for depth at 2B, 3B, SS, and OF.

MaxV
04-16-2007, 09:52 AM
Guys, I'm shopping for a closer. Please feel free to send me trade proposals if you are willing to deal a good one.

Xiomera
04-16-2007, 01:19 PM
Guys, I'm shopping for a closer. Please feel free to send me trade proposals if you are willing to deal a good one.

I am willing to deal one of my top closers (Wagner or Jenks) if you are willing to include Halladay, Lackey, or Hernandez as a part of the deal . . . it's only fair . . . http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif

MaxV
04-16-2007, 01:32 PM
Thanks, but I wasn't born yesterday. :)

Ted Lilly is available for the right price (closer has to be included).

Xiomera
04-16-2007, 01:40 PM
Thanks, but I wasn't born yesterday. :)

Ted Lilly is available for the right price (closer has to be included).

It is possible to have too much starting pitching, you know. There is an innings pitched limit on the season.

MaxV
04-16-2007, 01:46 PM
It is possible to have too much starting pitching, you know. There is an innings pitched limit on the season.

I'm not trading my top starters unless I get a HUGE return.

I am willing to deal Lilly and/or Maine.

Xiomera
04-16-2007, 01:55 PM
I'm not trading my top starters unless I get a HUGE return.

I am willing to deal Lilly and/or Maine.

I don't blame you for wanting to keep your big three starters. But if you think someone will give up a closer for the likes of Lilly and Maine, then you will probably be disappointed.

People can discredit the importance of having closers all you want, but the truth of the matter is that there are only 30 of them at any given time. There are at least 70-80 starters that are valuable in fantasy baseball. There are starters on the free agent list now that can help teams.

In a league that requires 3 RP's for each days starting lineup, it is a waste to utilize those spots by having middle relievers filling them. That's why closers are important to have. Not to mention the fact that they accumulate points at a much more efficiant rate in terms of IP than starters do. I think people are too enamored by the fact that a victory counts for 18 points. Starters have to pitch AT LEAST five innings in order to even be eligible for a win. A closer gets you 10-15 points per save, and he only uses up one inning of your season total.

Success in this league is all about maximizing your potential for points in each starting position. Do not discredit the importance of the less notable fantasy baseball positions (commonly Catcher, 2nd Base, and Relief Pitcher).

MaxV
04-16-2007, 02:53 PM
I admit that I made a mistake during the draft of waiting until the latter rounds in order to draft closers, and it could very well cost me. This is only my 2nd year playing Fantasy Baseball, and last season I lost interest in it after 1 month. I'm still very inexperienced.

I agree about the importance of a closer in this league, but I believe that at this point is WAY too early for me to panic and make STUPID deals.

Even with a limit on Innings Pitched, the value of guys like Felix Hernandez, John Lackey and Roy Halladay is ENORMOUS.

D-Unit
04-16-2007, 09:01 PM
I admit that I made a mistake during the draft of waiting until the latter rounds in order to draft closers, and it could very well cost me. This is only my 2nd year playing Fantasy Baseball, and last season I lost interest in it after 1 month. I'm still very inexperienced.

I agree about the importance of a closer in this league, but I believe that at this point is WAY too early for me to panic and make STUPID deals.

Even with a limit on Innings Pitched, the value of guys like Felix Hernandez, John Lackey and Roy Halladay is ENORMOUS.
I don't like the "I'm inexperienced" excuse... kind of a cop out sorta say...

but way to not let Xio brainwash you. :D

Xiomera
04-16-2007, 09:05 PM
I don't like the "I'm inexperienced" excuse... kind of a cop out sorta say...

but way to not let Xio brainwash you. :D

I'm not brainwashing. I don't want to make a deal for those starters of his. I don't need them.

But it is foolish to not recognize the point I am making here.

D-Unit
04-16-2007, 09:21 PM
I'm not brainwashing. I don't want to make a deal for those starters of his. I don't need them.

But it is foolish to not recognize the point I am making here.
I'm the only one allowed to brainwash!!! :D

MaxV
04-16-2007, 09:24 PM
Xio, I understand. But tell me this:

Why are you listing SP as a position of need???? Since closers are so much more valuable, and you have PLENTY of them, why do you need starters????

BTW, Ted Lilly has been pitching LIGHTS OUT so far this year, I'm not saying he'll do that the whole season, but he is certainly capable of having a pretty good season.

Xiomera
04-16-2007, 09:42 PM
Xio, I understand. But tell me this:

Why are you listing SP as a position of need???? Since closers are so much more valuable, and you have PLENTY of them, why do you need starters????

BTW, Ted Lilly has been pitching LIGHTS OUT so far this year, I'm not saying he'll do that the whole season, but he is certainly capable of having a pretty good season.

Trust me, if I could add any more closers I would . . . I wish there were some closers with SP eligibility . . .

I list SP as a need because I'd like to upgrade the ones I have. I don't want to add any more to my rotation. I did deal away Glavine today as well, so I could potentially add another for depth.

Xiomera
04-16-2007, 09:43 PM
Good news for me . . . B.J. Ryan isn't out for the season . . . just 6 weeks . . .

bsaza2358
04-17-2007, 09:00 AM
This line of discussion is painful. There are plenty of different ways to win a fantasy league. Rotisserie and H2H leagues are won by balance. Points leagues are about consistency and exploiting the system to the best of your abilities. Everyone in this league is trying to win, so let's all just chill out.

MaxV
04-17-2007, 09:18 AM
This line of discussion is painful. There are plenty of different ways to win a fantasy league. Rotisserie and H2H leagues are won by balance. Points leagues are about consistency and exploiting the system to the best of your abilities. Everyone in this league is trying to win, so let's all just chill out.

We aren't really arguing, just stating our opinions.

bsaza2358
04-17-2007, 10:40 AM
Regardless, it is painful for all involved, so I pleaded for it to stop. I'm just glad to be in a league where everyone tries and tries to be competent...

Xiomera
04-17-2007, 11:53 AM
Max and I have to duke it out in strategy too . . . not just in the standings.

MaxV
04-17-2007, 01:25 PM
Max and I have to duke it out in strategy too . . . not just in the standings.

I have a feeling I'll find myself a couple of spots down in the standing after tonight.

None of my starters are scheduled for today.

bsaza2358
04-17-2007, 01:40 PM
I have a feeling that the Mets and Phillies might play tonight, which would be absolutely shocking...

MaxV
04-17-2007, 01:45 PM
bsaza, which one is your team?

Xiomera
04-17-2007, 01:55 PM
bsaza, which one is your team?

He is Cleveland.

bsaza2358
04-17-2007, 01:57 PM
Yes, I'm in last place right now, but my talent is not performing consistently at present. I'm not worried, though.

MaxV
04-17-2007, 02:02 PM
He is Cleveland.

Thanks.

I was just asking in case I can discuss possible trades here.

bsaza2358
04-17-2007, 02:28 PM
I am open to making a deal. Pretty much anyone on my team can be had for the right price. I will make a deal if it makes my team better.

D-Unit
04-17-2007, 03:49 PM
Ready and willing to deal!

D-Unit
04-17-2007, 10:44 PM
Please check your PMs.

bsaza2358
04-18-2007, 08:33 AM
WAAHHHHHH!!!! I didn't get a PM...

D-Unit
04-18-2007, 03:30 PM
WAAHHHHHH!!!! I didn't get a PM...
I'll look at your team...

bsaza2358
04-18-2007, 03:39 PM
I'll look at your team...

No need. I was just being obnoxious.

D-Unit
04-18-2007, 03:39 PM
No need. I was just being obnoxious.
I'm gonna look anyways cuz I'm nosey. :D

D-Unit
04-18-2007, 03:42 PM
I like Ian Snell.

bsaza2358
04-18-2007, 03:48 PM
Do I have Ian Snell? I'm in too many leagues...

D-Unit
04-18-2007, 03:58 PM
Do I have Ian Snell? I'm in too many leagues...
I tried to limit myself this year. I'm only in 3 leagues.

Xiomera
04-18-2007, 07:46 PM
I tried to limit myself this year. I'm only in 3 leagues.

Me too . . . first place, second place, and first place thus far . . . bwah ha ha!:eek:

bsaza2358
04-19-2007, 08:44 AM
Let's see, I'm in this league, my deep roto keeper league, my head-to-head league, an NL-only roto, and a 15 team, 40 player per team keeper auction league. I think I have a sickness.

D-Unit
04-19-2007, 06:47 PM
Back in First!!! :D

Xiomera
04-19-2007, 07:58 PM
Back in First!!! :D

Boy did I take a tumble . . .

I think this is gonna be happening a lot for the next few months, with a different order of teams 1-4 every day. It seems like everything is tied to how many starting pitchers you have going each day.

D-Unit
04-19-2007, 10:13 PM
Josh Hamilton might just be the pick up of the year! :D

bsaza2358
04-20-2007, 11:24 AM
Yeah, everyone said the same thing about Chris Shelton about this time last year. Let's wait and see whether he's still playing regularly in June before we make that leap.

Xiomera
04-20-2007, 02:13 PM
Yeah, everyone said the same thing about Chris Shelton about this time last year. Let's wait and see whether he's still playing regularly in June before we make that leap.

Yeah, you never know, Hamilton could revert back to drinking.:eek: lol

That being said, I am looking to upgrade my starting pitchers.

bsaza2358
04-20-2007, 03:07 PM
I have a lot of quality starters, and I'm willing to trade under the right circumstances. Everyone always asks me whether a player is available, but they rarely make an offer. The only person to make me a legit offer was Xio, and he and I struck a deal...

Xiomera
04-20-2007, 07:41 PM
I have a lot of quality starters, and I'm willing to trade under the right circumstances. Everyone always asks me whether a player is available, but they rarely make an offer. The only person to make me a legit offer was Xio, and he and I struck a deal...

I am likely in the market for a 2B as well. But I am not gonna overpay considering there are few 2B that are better in the longterm than Uggla.

D-Unit
04-20-2007, 07:51 PM
I'm looking for an upgrade at 3B.

Xiomera
04-20-2007, 09:31 PM
My offense is pissing me off. I am so tempted to drop Sheffield, Uggla, Konerko, David Wright, Mike Piazza, and Jason Bay. WAY TOO MANY STRIKEOUTS!

Sorry, I had to vent.

D-Unit
04-20-2007, 10:02 PM
My offense is pissing me off. I am so tempted to drop Sheffield, Uggla, Konerko, David Wright, Mike Piazza, and Jason Bay. WAY TOO MANY STRIKEOUTS!

Sorry, I had to vent.
Do you remember what that offer was that I had sent you for Konerko before the season began??? I don't remember, but I'm glad I didn't do it. :D

Xiomera
04-20-2007, 10:13 PM
Do you remember what that offer was that I had sent you for Konerko before the season began??? I don't remember, but I'm glad I didn't do it. :D

My guys will bounce back. Third place isn't half bad when you consider how bad most of my hitters have been.

D-Unit
04-20-2007, 10:33 PM
My guys will bounce back. Third place isn't half bad when you consider how bad most of my hitters have been.
Don't think you're the only one with players having a slow start...


I must say though.... Max is surely getting "Max" production from his team...

A-Rod??? Wowzers.

MaxV
04-20-2007, 11:26 PM
Don't think you're the only one with players having a slow start...


I must say though.... Max is surely getting "Max" production from his team...

A-Rod??? Wowzers.

When I had the 5th pick in the draft I KNEW I would pick him.

I have A-Rod in my other league as well, and I'm in 1st there.

Xiomera
04-21-2007, 09:13 AM
Interesting deal D-Unit . . . trading for two guys on the DL . . .

MaxV
04-21-2007, 10:03 AM
BTW, some of you may remember that during the draft I was saying that I hope someone drafts A-Rod before me, so I wouldn't have to.

But when he dropped to me, I had no choice.

Obviously, it has payed off so far, but I still don't like him.

MaxV
04-21-2007, 10:05 AM
Regarding the trade:

D-Unit, you're giving up on Rivera WAY too early.

If you were going to trade him, you should've informed me. You knew I was looking for a closer, and I'm pretty sure I would've gave you a better deal.

Xiomera
04-21-2007, 10:24 AM
BTW, some of you may remember that during the draft I was saying that I hope someone drafts A-Rod before me, so I wouldn't have to.

But when he dropped to me, I had no choice.

Obviously, it has payed off so far, but I still don't like him.

You should have told me . . . I had no idea who the hell to pick at 3 . . . I ended up with Reyes, and dealt him a week later.

MaxV
04-21-2007, 10:56 AM
You should have told me . . . I had no idea who the hell to pick at 3 . . . I ended up with Reyes, and dealt him a week later.

Well Reyes isn't doing what A-Rod is doing, but he has been good so far as well. And I think he'll have a great season.

I don't understand why he was traded twice in our league already.

Xiomera
04-21-2007, 10:58 AM
Well Reyes isn't doing what A-Rod is doing, but he has been good so far as well. And I think he'll have a great season.

I don't understand why he was traded twice in our league already.

I felt I greatly improved my team by dealing him. Reyes (combined with Ibanez) got me David Wright and Jimmy Rollins (who is very near Reyes in terms of numbers, 6 HR already). If only Wright were doing anything noteworthy.

MaxV
04-21-2007, 11:04 AM
I felt I greatly improved my team by dealing him. Reyes (combined with Ibanez) got me David Wright and Jimmy Rollins (who is very near Reyes in terms of numbers, 6 HR already). If only Wright were doing anything noteworthy.

Well David just recently ended a 26-game hitting streak. :)

But seriously, he hasn't hit for power this year yet, though I think he will eventually.

Xiomera
04-21-2007, 11:16 AM
Well David just recently ended a 26-game hitting streak. :)

But seriously, he hasn't hit for power this year yet, though I think he will eventually.

He's gonna have 25 HR and 100 RBI when all is said and done. He would be a major disappointment otherwise.

D-Unit
04-21-2007, 02:26 PM
He's gonna have 25 HR and 100 RBI when all is said and done. He would be a major disappointment otherwise.
That's Jeff Francouer numbers buddy. ;)

D-Unit
04-21-2007, 02:45 PM
Regarding the trade:

D-Unit, you're giving up on Rivera WAY too early.

If you were going to trade him, you should've informed me. You knew I was looking for a closer, and I'm pretty sure I would've gave you a better deal.
You kept offering me guys that I wasn't interested in... Hank Blalock... and Chuck James...

You need to get aim. Seriously, that's the most efficient way to communicate when trading.

D-Unit
04-21-2007, 02:48 PM
Interesting deal D-Unit . . . trading for two guys on the DL . . .
Yeah, I told Nerv that I don't think that's ever been done before. HAHA!

Chone comes back in a week or 2. Colon starts today... Colon has been looking great in rehab, so I just went for it.

It's risky... but I'm a gambler. ;)

DHVF
04-21-2007, 03:02 PM
Yeah, I told Nerv that I don't think that's ever been done before. HAHA!

Chone comes back in a week or 2. Colon starts today... Colon has been looking great in rehab, so I just went for it.

It's risky... but I'm a gambler. ;)
You crazy fellow you...

MaxV
04-21-2007, 03:03 PM
Yeah, I told Nerv that I don't think that's ever been done before. HAHA!

Chone comes back in a week or 2. Colon starts today... Colon has been looking great in rehab, so I just went for it.

It's risky... but I'm a gambler. ;)

Well, I fully expect Rivera to get back on track and have another stellar year, and Oliver Perez pitched GREAT today and certainly has ability to have a good year as well.

I gotta be honest, even with healthy Figgins and Colon, I don't like this trade for you.

D-Unit
04-21-2007, 03:50 PM
Well, I fully expect Rivera to get back on track and have another stellar year, and Oliver Perez pitched GREAT today and certainly has ability to have a good year as well.

I gotta be honest, even with healthy Figgins and Colon, I don't like this trade for you.
I looked at Oliver was a sell high candidate... but yeah, he could continue... part of the gamble which I'm not afraid to make.

I've offered Perez to others and one response I got back was that he's "dung". LOL!

I think Rivera is still a good player, but I'd be lying if I wasn't questioning it.

Still waiting to get your response from my PM to you.