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ThePudge
02-25-2009, 12:13 AM
Alright, the Combine is now in the books and you had to assume I'd be back posting excessively long rankings. I dedicated the week to watching the Combine, talking draft with you guys, and worked tonight on putting everything into rankings. I must admit, I am very happy with the rankings right now and should be putting out a Mock Draft too, as well as a Bengals Draft Database, within the week. Hope all you guys had a great time watching the Combine's stories unravel this year, and hope you enjoy these new rankings.

Questions/Comments are encouraged. I'm willing to defend my opinion, but will be open minded and tell you exactly why I put a specific player ahead of another. I understand some of you will disagree, and that is expected. Please try not to be stubborn or ignorant and if you disagree with why a player is so high or low on my board, simply ask. Enjoy!

Positional Rankings

Quarterbacks
1. Matthew Stafford – Georgia – Top 5
2. Mark Sanchez – USC – Top 15
3. Josh Freeman – Kansas State – Mid 1st-Early 2nd
4. Pat White – West Virginia – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd (WR)*
5. Rhett Bomar – Sam Houston State – Late 3rd-Late 4th
6. Nate Davis – Ball State – Mid 4th-Early 5th
7. Curtis Painter – Purdue – Early 5th-Early 6th
8. Hunter Cantwell – Louisville – Early 5th-Early 6th
9. Jason Boltus – Hartwick – Mid 5th-Early 6th
10. Stephen McGee – Texas A&M – Mid 5th-Late 6th
11. John Parker Wilson – Alabama – Late 5th-Early 7th
12. Cullen Harper – Clemson – Early 6th-UDFA
13. Mike Reilly – Central Washington – Early 6th-UDFA
14. Graham Harrell – Texas Tech – Mid 6th-UDFA
15. Tom Brandstater – Fresno State – Mid 6th-UDFA
16. Nathan Brown – Central Arkansas – 7th Round-UDFA
17. Drew Willy – Buffalo – 7th Round-UDFA
18. Willie Tuitama – Arizona – UDFA
19. Rudy Carpenter – Arizona State – UDFA
20. Mike Teel – Rutgers – UDFA

Running Backs
1. Chris “Beanie” Wells – Ohio State – Top 20
2. Knowshon Moreno – Georgia – Top 32
3. Donald Brown – Connecticut – Late 1st-Mid 2nd
4. LeSean McCoy – Pittsburgh – Early-Mid 2nd
5. Andre Brown – North Carolina State – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
6. Shonn Greene – Iowa – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
7. Mike Goodson – Texas A&M – Late 2nd-Early 4th
8. James Davis – Clemson – Third Round
9. Devin Moore – Wyoming – Mid 3rd-Early 4th
10. Javon Ringer – Michigan State – Late 3rd-Mid 4th
11. Rashad Jennings – Liberty – Late 3rd-Late 4th
12. Kory Sheets – Purdue - Early 4th-Early 5th
13. Cedric Peerman – Virginia – Mid 4th-Early 5th
14. Glen Coffee – Alabama – Late 4th-Early 6th
15. Bernard Scott – Abilene Christian – Mid 5th-Late 6th
16. Jeremiah Johnson – Oregon – Mid 5th-Mid 6th
17. Javarris Williams – Tennessee State – Late 5th-Early 7th
18. Aaron Brown – TCU – Early 6th-Mid 7th
19. Arian Foster – Tennessee – Early 6th-Mid 7th
20. Ian Johnson – Boise State – Mid 6th-Late 7th

Fullbacks
1. Quinn Johnson – LSU – Mid 4th-Late 5th
2. Tony Fiammetta – Syracuse – Mid 4th-Late 5th
3. Brannan Southerland – Georgia – Early 5th-Early 6th
4. Brock Bolen – Louisville – Early 6th-Mid 7th
5. Eddie Williams – Idaho – Mid 6th-UDFA
6. Jason Cook – Mississippi – Mid 6th-UDFA
7. Zeek Zacharie – Lousiana Monroe – 7th Round-UDFA
8. Eric Kettani – Navy – 7th Round-UDFA
9. Conredge Collins – Pittsburgh – 7th Round-UDFA
10. Marcus Mailei – Weber State – 7th Round-UDFA

Wide Receivers
1. Jeremy Maclin – Missouri – Top 15
2. Michael Crabtree – Texas Tech – Top 10
3. Darrius Heyward-Bey – Maryland – Top 20
4. Percy Harvin – Florida – Top 32
5. Hakeem Nicks – North Carolina – Late 1st-Mid 2nd
6. Kenny Britt – Rutgers – Late 1st-Mid 2nd
7. Brian Robiskie – Ohio State – Second Round
8. Pat White – West Virginia – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd (QB)*
9. Juaquin Iglesias – Oklahoma – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
10. Ramses Barden – Cal-Poly – Early 3rd-Early 4th
11. Brandon Tate – North Carolina – Mid 3rd-Early 4th
12. Louis Murphy – Florida – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th
13. Mohamed Massaquoi - Georgia – Late 3rd-Late 4th
14. Jarrett Dillard – Rice – Fourth Round
15. Demetrius Byrd – LSU – Early 4th-Early 5th
16. Kenny McKinley – South Carolina – Early 4th-Early 5th
17. Derrick Williams – Penn State – Late 3rd-Mid 5th
18. Brooks Foster – North Carolina – Early 4th-Mid 5th
19. Mike Thomas – Arizona – Mid 4th-Late 5th
20. Sammie Stroughter – Oregon State – Mid 4th-Late 5th
21. Mike Wallace – Mississippi – Mid 5th-Early 7th
22. Marko Mitchell – Nevada – Mid 5th-Early 7th
23. Deon Butler – Penn State – Late 5th-Mid 7th
24. Dominique Edison – Stephen F. Austin – Late 5th-Late 7th
25. Aaron Kelly – Clemson – Early 6th-Late 7th
26. Austin Collie – BYU - Mid 6th-UDFA
27. Jordan Norwood – Penn State – Late 6th-UDFA
28. Tiquan Underwood – Rutgers – 7th Round-UDFA
29. Quan Cosby – Texas – 7th Round-UDFA
30. Brian Hartline – Ohio State – 7th Round-UDFA

Tight Ends
1. Brandon Pettigrew – Oklahoma State – Top 25
2. Shawn Nelson – Southern Mississippi – Second Round
3. Jared Cook – South Carolina – Second Round
4. Chase Coffman – Missouri – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
5. Cornelius Ingram – Florida – Early 3rd-Early 4th
6. James Casey – Rice – Mid 3rd-Early 4th
7. Travis Beckum – Wisconsin – Late 3rd-Early 5th
8. John Phillips – Virginia – Mid 4th-Mid 5th
9. Richard Quinn – North Carolina – Late 4th-Early 6th
10. Jared Bronson – Central Washington – Late 4th-Early 6th
11. Kory Sperry – Colorado State – Mid 5th-Early 7th
12. Anthony Hill – North Carolina State – Mid 5th-Mid 7th
13. Davon Drew – East Carolina – Late 5th-Mid 7th
14. Bear Pascoe – Fresno State – Mid 6th-UDFA
15. Cameron Morrah – California – 7th Round-UDFA

Offensive Tackles
1. Jason Smith – Baylor – Top 5
2. Eugene Monroe – Virginia – Top 10
3. Andre Smith – Alabama – Top 15 (OG)
4. Michael Oher – Mississippi – Top 15
5. William Beatty – Connecticut – Late 1st-Early 2nd
6. Eben Britton – Arizona – Late 1st-Early 2nd
7. Phil Loadholt – Oklahoma – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd
8. Jamon Meredith – South Carolina – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
9. Troy Kropog – Tulane – Early 3rd-Early 4th
10. Gerald Cadogan – Penn State – Late 3rd-Early 5th
11. Jason Watkins – Florida – Late 3rd-Early 5th
12. Cornelius Lewis – Tennessee State – Mid 4th-Early 5th (OG)
13. T.J. Lang – Eastern Michigan – Mid 4th-Mid 5th
14. Xavier Fulton – Illinois – Late 4th-Early 6th (OG)
15. Augustus Parrish – Kent State – Early 5th-Early 6th
16. Andrew Gardner – Georgia Tech – Late 5th-Mid 7th
17. Joel Bell – Furman – Mid 6th-UDFA
18. Fenuki Tupou – Oregon – Mid 6th-UDFA
19. Alex Boone – Ohio State – 7th Round-UDFA
20. Lydon Murtha – Nebraska – 7th Round-UDFA

Offensive Guards
1. Duke Robinson – Oklahoma – Late 1st-Mid 2nd
2. Andy Levitre – Oregon State – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
3. Trevor Canfield – Cincinnati – Late 3rd-Mid 4th
4. Kraig Urbik – Wisconsin – Early 4th-Early 5th
5. Roger Allen – Missouri Western State – Late 4th-Early 6th
6. Louis Vasquez – Texas Tech – Mid 5th-Mid 6th
7. Herman Johnson – LSU – Early 5th-UDFA (RT)
8. Ray Feniga – BYU – Early 6th-UDFA
9. Greg Isander – West Virginia – Early 6th-UDFA
10. Cedric Dockery – Texas – Late 6th-UDFA
11. Seth Olsen – Iowa – 7th Round-UDFA
12. C.J. Davis – Pittsburgh – 7th Round-UDFA
13. Tyronne Green – Auburn – 7th Round – UDFA
14. Jamie Thomas – Maryland – 7th Round – UDFA
15. Brandon Walker – Oklahoma – 7th Round-UDFA

Centers
1. Alex Mack – California – Late 1st-Early 2nd
2. Eric Wood – Louisville – Second Round
3. Max Unger – Oregon – Early 2nd-Early 3rd
4. Anoine Caldwell – Alabama – Early 3rd-Early 4th
5. Jonathan Luigs – Arkansas – Late 3rd-Early 5th
6. A.Q. Shipley – Penn State – Late 4th-Early 6th
7. Jon Cooper – Oklahoma – Mid 5th-Early 7th
8. Edwin Williams – Maryland – Late 5th-Early 7th
9. Juan Garcia – Washington – Early 6th-Mid 7th
10. Alex Fletcher – Stanford – Late 6th-UDFA


Defensive Ends
1. Everette Brown – Florida State – Top 10 (OLB)
2. Brian Orakpo – Texas – Top 15 (OLB)
3. Aaron Maybin – Penn State – Top 20 (OLB)
4. Larry English – Northern Illinois – Top 32
5. Tyson Jackson – LSU – Top 32 (3-4 DE)
6. Robert Ayers – Tennessee – Late 1st-Mid 2nd
7. Michael Johnson – Georgia Tech – Late 1st-Mid 2nd
8. Jarron Gilbert – San Jose State – Second Round (3-4 DE)
9. Connor Barwin – Cincinnati – Early 2nd-Early 3rd (OLB)
10. Lawrence Sidbury – Richmond – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd (OLB)
11. Paul Kruger – Utah – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
12. Kyle Moore – USC – Late 3rd-Early 5th
13. David Veikune – Hawaii – Mid 4th-Late 5th
14. Tim Jamison – Michigan – Late 4th-Early 6th
15. Brandon Williams – Texas Tech – Early 5th-Mid 6th
16. Ian Campbell – Kansas State – Late 4th-Late 6th (OLB)
17. Michael Bennett – Texas A&M – Mid 5th-Early 7th
18. Will Davis – Illinois – Late 5th-Early 7th
19. Phillip Hunt – Houston – Late 5th-Mid 7th
20. Henry Melton – Texas – Early 6th-Mid 7th

Defensive Tackles
1. B.J. Raji – Boston College – Top 10 (NT)
2. Peria Jerry – Mississippi – Top 25
3. Evander “Ziggy” Hood – Missouri – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd
4. Ron Brace – Boston College – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd (NT)
5. Sen’Derrick Marks – Auburn – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
6. Fili Moala – USC – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
7. Alex Magee – Purdue – Early 3rd-Early 4th
8. Chris Baker – Hampton – Mid 3rd-Early 5th
9. Terrance Taylor – Michigan – Late 3rd-Mid 5th (NT)
10. Mitch King – Iowa – Mid 4th-Late 5th
11. Roy Miller – Texas – Late 4th-Early 6th
12. Sammie Lee Hill – Stillman – Mid 4th-Mid 6th (NT)
13. Dorrell Scott – Clemson – Late 4th-Mid 6th
14. Corvey Irvin – Georgia – Early 5th-Late 6th
15. Vance Walker – Georgia Tech – Mid 5th-Late 6th
16. Ricky Jean-Francois – LSU – Mid 5th-Early 7th
17. Khalif Mitchell – East Carolina – Mid 5th-Early 7th (3-4 DE)
18. John Gill – Northwestern – Late 5th-Early 7th
19. Clinton McDonald – Memphis – Late 5th-Mid 7th
20. Demonte’ Bolden – Tennessee – Mid 5th-Mid 7th
21. Marlon Pryor – Kentucky – Early 6th-Late 7th
22. Terrance Knighton – Temple – Mid 6th-UDFA (NT)
23. Daryl Richard – Georgia Tech – Late 6th-UDFA
24. Nader Abdallah – Ohio State – 7th Round-UDFA
25. Adrian Grady – Louisville – 7th Round-UDFA

Outside Linebackers
1. Aaron Curry – Wake Forest – Top 5
2. Brian Cushing – USC – Top 20
3. Clay Matthews – USC – Top 32
4. Marcus Freeman – Ohio State – Early-Mid 2nd
5. Clint Sintim – Virginia – Early-Mid 2nd
6. Gerald McRath – Southern Mississippi – Late 2nd-Late 3rd
7. Tyrone McKenzie – South Florida – Late 2nd-Late 3rd
8. Cody Brown – Connecticut – Early 3rd-Early 4th
9. Kaluka Maiava – USC – Early 4th-Late 5th
10. Victor Butler – Oregon State – Early 4th-Mid 5th
11. Jonathan Casillas – Wisconsin – Early 4th-Mid 5th
12. Zack Follett – California – Mid 4th-Late 5th
13. DeAndre Levy – Wisconsin – Late 4th-Early 6th
14. Lee Robinson – Alcorn State – Late 4th-Early 6th
15. Anthony Heygood – Purdue – Early 5th-Mid 6th
16. Nic Harris – Oklahoma – Mid 5th-Late 6th
17. Ashlee Palmer – Mississippi – Mid 5th-Late 6th
18. Moise Fokou – Maryland – Late 5th-Early 7th
19. Anthony Felder – California – Mid 6th-UDFA
20. Corey Smith – Cincinnati – 7th Round-UDFA

Inside Linebackers
1. Rey Maualuga – USC – Top 25
2. James Laurinaitis – Ohio State – Mid 1st-Early 3rd
3. Darry Beckwith – LSU – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th
4. Jasper Brinkley – South Carolina – Late 3rd-Early 5th
5. Dannell Ellerbe – Georgia – Mid 4th-Late 5th
6. Jason Phillips – TCU – Late 4th-Early 6th
7. Stanley Arnoux – Wake Forest – Early 5th-Early 6th
8. Antonio Appleby – Virginia – Early 5th-Mid 6th
9. Scott McKillop – Pittsburgh – Mid 5th-Early 7th
10. Frantz Joseph – Florida Atlantic – Late 5th-Mid 7th
11. Worrell Williams – California – Early 6th-Mid 7th
12. Jamar Chaney – Mississippi State – Mid 6th-UDFA
13. Josh Mauga – Nevada – Mid 6th-UDFA
14. Daniel Holtzclaw – Eastern Michigan – 7th Round-UDFA
15. Maurice Crum Jr. – Nortre Dame – 7th Round-UDFA

Cornerbacks
1. Malcolm Jenkins – Ohio State – Top 10 (FS)
2. Vontae Davis – Illinois – Top 32
3. Alphonso Smith – Wake Forest – Late 1st-Early 2nd
4. Sean Smith – Utah – Late 1st-Early 2nd (FS)
5. Coye Francies – San Jose State – Second Round
6. D.J. Moore – Vanderbilt – Second Round
7. Darius Butler – Connecticut – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd
8. Jairus Byrd – Oregon – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
9. Sherrod Martin – Troy – Mid 3rd-Early 4th (FS)
10. Cary Harris – USC – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th
11. Bruce Johnson – Miami – Late 3rd-Late 4th
12. Bradley Fletcher – Iowa – Late 3rd-Early 5th
13. Victor “Macho” Harris – Virginia Tech – Late 3rd-Early 5th (FS)
14. Kevin Barnes – Maryland – Late 3rd-Early 5th
15. Mike Mickens – Cincinnati – Early 4th-Early 5th
16. Asher Allen – Georgia – Early 4th-Mid 5th
17. Jerraud Powers – Auburn – Mid 4th-Mid 5th
18. Chris Owens – San Jose State – Mid 4th-Mid 5th
19. DeAngelo Smith – Cincinnati – Late 4th-Late 5th (FS)
20. Brandon Underwood – Cincinnati – Late 4th-Early 6th (FS)
21. Captain Munnerlyn – South Carolina – Late 4th-Early 6th
22. Mark Parson – Ohio University – Mid 5th-Early 7th
23. Joe Burnett – Central Florida – Mid 5th-Early 7th
24. Ryan Palmer – Texas – Late 5th-Mid 7th
25. Keenan Lewis – Oregon State – Late 5th-Mid 7th
26. Donald Washington – Ohio State – Late 5th-Mid 7th
27. Domonique Johnson – Jackson State – Late 5th-Mid 7th
28. Brandon Hughes – Oregon State – Early 6th-Late 7th
29. LaDarius Webb – Nicholls State – Mid 6th-UDFA
30. Tony Carter – Florida State – 7th Round-UDFA

Safeties
1. Rashad Johnson – Alabama – Early-Mid 2nd Round
2. Louis Delmas – Western Michigan – Second Round
3. William Moore – Missouri – Second Round
4. Chip Vaughn – Wake Forest – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd
5. Patrick Chung – Oregon – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
6. Michael Hamlin – Clemson – Third Round
7. David Bruton – Notre Dame – Early 3rd-Early 4th
8. Curtis Taylor – LSU – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th
9. Darcel McBath – Texas Tech – Late 3rd-Late 4th
10. Emmanuel Cook – South Carolina – Late 3rd-Late 4th
11. Stephen Hodge – TCU – Mid 4th-Mid 5th (OLB)
12. Courtney Greene – Rutgers – Late 4th-Early 6th
13. C.J. Spillman – Marshall – Early 5th-Mid 6th
14. Trimane Goddard – North Carolina – Mid 5th-Early 7th
15. Derek Pegues – Mississippi State – Early 6th-UDFA

Kickers/Punters
1. Graham Gano – Florida State – Late 5th-UDFA (K/P)
2. Kevin Huber – Cincinnati – Late 5th-UDFA (P)
3. David Buehler – USC – Mid 6th-UDFA (K)
4. Thomas Morstead – SMU – Mid 6th-UDFA (P)
5. Ryan Succop – South Carolina – UDFA (K)


Big Board – Top 150

1. Aaron Curry – OLB – Wake Forest
2. Jason Smith – OT – Baylor
3. Matthew Stafford – QB – Georgia
4. B.J. Raji – DT – Boston College
5. Jeremy Maclin – WR/RS – Missouri
6. Eugene Monroe – OT – Virginia
7. Malcolm Jenkins – CB/FS – Ohio State
8. Michael Crabtree – WR – Texas Tech
9. Everette Brown – DE/OLB – Florida State
10. Andre Smith – OT/OG – Alabama
11. Mark Sanchez – QB – USC
12. Brian Orakpo – DE/OLB – Texas
13. Michael Oher – OT – Mississippi
14. Chris “Beanie” Wells – RB – Ohio State
15. Brian Cushing – OLB – USC
16. Aaron Maybin – DE/OLB – Penn State
17. Darrius Heyward-Bey – WR/KR – Maryland
18. Brandon Pettigrew – TE – Oklahoma State
19. Rey Maualuga – ILB – USC
20. Peria Jerry – DT – Mississippi
21. Percy Harvin – WR/RS – Florida
22. Knowshon Moreno – RB - Georgia
23. Vontae Davis – CB - Illinois
24. Clay Matthews – OLB – USC
25. Larry English – DE – Northern Illinois
26. Tyson Jackson – DE/DT – LSU
27. Alex Mack – C - California
28. James Laurinaitis – MLB/WLB – Ohio State
29. Alphonso Smith – CB – Wake Forest
30. Hakeem Nicks – WR – North Carolina
31. Sean Smith – CB/FS – Utah
32. William Beatty – OT - Connecticut
33. Josh Freeman – QB – Kansas State
34. Donald Brown – RB – Connecticut
35. Kenny Britt – WR – Rutgers
36. Robert Ayers – DE – Tennessee
37. Duke Robinson – OG – Oklahoma
38. Eben Britton – OT – Arizona
39. Michael Johnson – DE – Georgia Tech
40. LeSean McCoy – RB – Pittsburgh
41. Rashad Johnson – S – Alabama
42. Marcus Freeman – OLB – Ohio State
43. Clint Sintim – OLB – Virginia
44. Eric Wood – C - Louisville
45. Louis Delmas – S – Western Michigan
46. Jarron Gilbert – DE/DT – San Jose State
47. William Moore – S – Missouri
48. Coye Francies – CB – San Jose State
49. Shawn Nelson – TE – Southern Mississippi
50. D.J. Moore – CB – Vanderbilt
51. Jared Cook – TE – South Carolina
52. Max Unger – C – Oregon
53. Brian Robiskie – WR – Ohio State
54. Connor Barwin – OLB/DE – Cincinnati
55. Darius Butler – CB – Connecticut
56. Evander “Ziggy” Hood – DT – Missouri
57. Ron Brace – DT/NT – Boston College
58. Phil Loadholt – OT - Oklahoma
59. Chip Vaughn – S – Wake Forest
60. Pat White – WR/QB - West Virginia
61. Lawrence Sidbury – DE/OLB – Richmond
62. Patrick Chung – S - Oregon
63. Gerald McRath – OLB – Southern Mississippi
64. Sen’Derrick Marks – DT – Auburn
65. Chase Coffman – TE – Missouri
66. Jairus Byrd – CB – Oregon
67. Andre Brown – RB – North Carolina State
68. Andy Levitre – OG/C – Oregon State
69. Shonn Greene – RB - Iowa
70. Fili Moala – DT – USC
71. Jamon Meredith – OT – South Carolina
72. Juaquin Iglesias – WR – Oklahoma
73. Paul Kruger – DE – Utah
74. Tyrone McKenzie – OLB – South Florida
75. Mike Goodson – RB – Texas A&M
76. Michael Hamlin – S – Clemson
77. James Davis – RB – Clemson
78. Cody Brown – OLB – Connecticut
79. Troy Kropog – OT – Tulane
80. Ramses Barden – WR – Cal-Poly
81. Alex Magee – DT – Purdue
82. Cornelius Ingram – TE – Florida
83. David Bruton – S – Notre Dame
84. Antoine Caldwell – C – Alabama
85. Sherrod Martin – CB/FS – Troy
86. James Casey – TE/H-B – Rice
87. Brandon Tate – WR – North Carolina
88. Devin Moore – RB – Wyoming
89. Darry Beckwith – MLB - LSU
90. Cary Harris – CB – USC
91. Curtis Taylor – S – LSU
92. Louis Murphy – WR – Florida
93. Chris Baker – DT – Hampton
94. Javon Ringer – RB – Michigan State
95. Mohamed Massaquoi – WR – Georgia
96. Bruce Johnson – CB - Miami
97. Darcel McBath – S – Texas Tech
98. Emmanuel Cook – S – South Carolina
99. Rhett Bomar – QB – Sam Houston State
100. Trevor Canfield – OG - Cincinnati
101. Rashad Jennings – RB – Liberty
102. Travis Beckum – TE/H-B – Wisconsin
103. Gerald Cadogan – OT – Penn State
104. Jasper Brinkley – ILB – South Carolina
105. Jason Watkins – OT - Florida
106. Bradley Fletcher – CB – Iowa
107. Victor “Macho” Harris – CB/FS – Virginia Tech
108. Jonathan Luigs – C – Arkansas
109. Kevin Barnes – CB – Maryland
110. Kyle Moore – DE – USC
111. Terrance Taylor – DT/NT – Michigan
112. Jarret Dillard – WR – Rice
113. Mike Mickens – CB – Cincinnati
114. Kory Sheets – RB – Purdue
115. Asher Allen – CB – Georgia
116. Demetrius Byrd – WR – LSU
117. Kraig Urbik – OG – Wisconsin
118. Kenny McKinley – WR – South Carolina
119. Cornelius Lewis – OT/OG – Tennessee State
120. Cedric Peerman – RB – Virginia
121. Derrick Williams – RS/WR – Penn State
122. John Phillips – TE – Virginia
123. Kaluka Maiava – OLB - USC
124. Nate Davis – QB – Ball State
125. Brooks Foster – WR – North Carolina
126. Stephen Hodge – S/OLB – TCU
127. T.J. Lang – OT/OG – Eastern Michigan
128. Jerraud Powers – CB – Auburn
129. Quinn Johnson – FB – LSU
130. Dannell Ellerbe – MLB - Georgia
131. Victor Butler – OLB/DE – Oregon State
132. Mike Thomas – WR - Arizona
133. Chris Owens – CB – San Jose State
134. David Veikune – DE – Hawaii
135. Jonathan Casillas – OLB - Wisconsin
136. Tony Fiammetta – FB – Syracuse
137. Sammie Stroughter – WR – Oregon State
138. Zack Follett – OLB - California
139. Mitch King – DT/ILB – Iowa
140. DeAngelo Smith – CB/FS – Cincinnati
141. Glen Coffee – RB – Alabama
142. A.Q. Shipley – C – Penn State
143. Richard Quinn – TE – North Carolina
144. Tim Jamison – DE - Michigan
145. Courtney Greene – S – Rutgers
146. Roger Allen – OG – Missouri Western State
147. Roy Miller – DT - Texas
148. Brandon Underwood – CB/FS – Cincinnati
149. Sammie Lee Hill – DT/NT - Stillman
150. Captain Munnerlyn – CB – South Carolina

Paranoidmoonduck
02-25-2009, 12:24 AM
Good stuff Pudge.

RaiderNation
02-25-2009, 12:30 AM
Raji in Oakland will make me happy

Texas Homer
02-25-2009, 12:30 AM
Nice List. I think Roy Miller really helped himself out at the combine.

holt_bruce81
02-25-2009, 12:30 AM
I love it. Finally someone who doesn't have Maclin Free Falling because of an unexpected 40-time. From everything I've been hearing, Maclin looked like the best player on the field sunday.

Love where you got Pat White too.

ThePudge
02-25-2009, 12:48 AM
I love it. Finally someone who doesn't have Maclin Free Falling because of an unexpected 40-time. From everything I've been hearing, Maclin looked like the best player on the field sunday.

Love where you got Pat White too.

Not a lot of people realize that Jeremy Maclin is not Ted Ginn Jr. He's not a speed receiver, he's a complete, talented receiver with speed. He is a chiseled 6'0 1/8 198 who excels in the game's finer points. His hands, route-running, blocking, elite return ability, and toughness as a player and person are what have me hooked. His speed in pads is remarkable and that shows up on film against NFL caliber athletes, I don't necessarily need to see a sub 4.35 40 yard dash.

gpngc
02-25-2009, 12:58 AM
Agree with y'all on Malcin. He's a solid WR- not just a speedster. Never understood Raiders and Bears fans not wanting him. He's the best receiver on either of those teams immediately.

Tisk, tisk on Crabtree's ranking.

In this age of over-information, Tree has become popular to slight simply because people want to be different.

It's no fun putting him in the top three overall --the only place he should be-- because everyone has him there.

Well, there is a reason everyone has him there...

Paranoidmoonduck
02-25-2009, 01:03 AM
I actually have no problem with Crabtree being the second wideout. In a slightly stronger draft, neither he nor Maclin would be in my top ten. Personally, I think I rate Crabtree as slightly better, but it is very slight.

d34ng3l021
02-25-2009, 01:03 AM
Someone's high on Maclin.

ThePudge
02-25-2009, 01:13 AM
Tisk, tisk on Crabtree's ranking.

In this age of over-information, Tree has become popular to slight simply because people want to be different.

It's no fun putting him in the top three (the only place he should be, #1 IMO), because everyone has him there.


Luckily, I have reasons for rating Crabtree lower than Maclin.

I do not dislike him, but I feel he is overrated. In an era where stats and highlight videos rule the net and some draft talk, Crabtree has been hyped more than almost any receiver before him. And for what reason, does Jeremy Maclin have the stats? Absolutely, he led the NCAA in total yards both years he was an active player. Does Maclin have the highlights? Absolutely, take a look at his acceleration, short area quickness, and breakaway speed and watch opposing teams kick away from him and double team him.

At 6'1 3/8, one has to wonder how he will dominate jump-balls the way he did in college. With 4.6-4.65 speed, running NFL routes instead of bubble-screens and quick slants, one has to wonder how he will separate at the NFL level. Now outside of the five WR spread, one has to also wonder how Crabtree will cope with facing actual double teams at the next level.

He uses his size and physicality very well and is a true talent. Still, I have many questions that haven't been answered, that can't be answered, until he suits up. Is he Anquan Boldin? Maybe. Is he Reggie Williams? Maybe. I think Crabtree will be a very good NFL receiver and obviously, despite the questions, I think he is a Top 10 talent. Still, we cannot pretend he's a perfect WR prospect as there are some doubts.

ManOverboard
02-25-2009, 01:39 AM
Underwood carried that grade before the combine, how did his performance not move him up at all?

gpngc
02-25-2009, 01:44 AM
Luckily, I have reasons for rating Crabtree lower than Maclin.

I do not dislike him, but I feel he is overrated. In an era where stats and highlight videos rule the net and some draft talk, Crabtree has been hyped more than almost any receiver before him. And for what reason, does Jeremy Maclin have the stats? Absolutely, he led the NCAA in total yards both years he was an active player. Does Maclin have the highlights? Absolutely, take a look at his acceleration, short area quickness, and breakaway speed and watch opposing teams kick away from him and double team him.

At 6'1 3/8, one has to wonder how he will dominate jump-balls the way he did in college. With 4.6-4.65 speed, running NFL routes instead of bubble-screens and quick slants, one has to wonder how he will separate at the NFL level. Now outside of the five WR spread, one has to also wonder how Crabtree will cope with facing actual double teams at the next level.

He uses his size and physicality very well and is a true talent. Still, I have many questions that haven't been answered, that can't be answered, until he suits up. Is he Anquan Boldin? Maybe. Is he Reggie Williams? Maybe. I think Crabtree will be a very good NFL receiver and obviously, despite the questions, I think he is a Top 10 talent. Still, we cannot pretend he's a perfect WR prospect as there are some doubts.

Not talking about Maclin at all. He's a top 10 prospect to me. Having him at #5 is fine.

Crabtree at #8 is what I have a problem with.

Crab ran many routes and did not just run screens and slants (Impossible to amass that amount of yardage and reception numbers if you don't run a decent # of routes). I've personally seen him run:

-9 (vertical)
-Post
-Cross (Dig- Bruce/Holt '99 Rams)
-Goal line fade
-Comeback (Reggie Wayneish)
-Bubble screen (People act like having success on this play is a bad thing. The fact is, many NFL teams do use quick passes or bubble screens. How many yards did S. Holmes get in the Super Bowl on the quick look pass?)
-Slant
+ whatever I didn't see.
So we are looking for flags (corners) and outs. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this world class athlete would be able to run these routes...

And route-running is not something that can't be improved/refined. Think about this: Hines Ward, Antonio Gates, and most recently- Roddy White. What helps is quickness (Crab is elite here) and of course speed, acceleration, and agility (athleticism). Plus Crab has two years of WR experience. There is no reason to believe he can't continue to develop his craft. If you want to predict he won't make any progress going forward, you are still getting a quality athlete and decent receiver.

Dominating jump balls in college? Crab never did that. His strengths were finding holes in zones, getting open deep, and of course his well-documented YAC. Occasionally he'd go up and grab one over someone's head but that's not his "signature move" so to speak.

Plus for all the 6'1" talk no one seems to mention that he had the second longest arms of the WRs at the combine.

You didn't mention an important criteria when evaluating a WR...

Hands.

Never once saw Crab drop a pass. Makes some ridiculous ones. He has the best hands in the nation.

Look up the stats. When you dominate schools like Texas and OU it doesn't matter what kind of offense you play in. The fact is- it's you vs. the DB for the ball (or the chains).

I mean here is what I know:
-Played just two years in his life at WR= two years of prolific production.
-Amazing, consistent, strong hands + Long arms.
-Extremely quick.
-Physical and strong.
-Good after the catch.
-Knack for getting open.

Negatives:
-6'1"
-Might not have great straight line speed (still don't know).
-Dominated the Big XII but it was in a "gimmicky" offense.

Where does his game not translate to the NFL? He's such an obvious star to me. I don't see any way how he doesn't look like the best player in the draft (OK maybe if you LOVE one of the other guys- but he's got to be top 3 at the very worst).

ThePudge
02-25-2009, 01:49 AM
Underwood carried that grade before the combine, how did his performance not move him up at all?

Personally, I felt Underwood was an UDFA before the Combine and was pleasantly surprised with his Combine workout like most. It is possible that Underwood is drafted before the 7th Round, but that, right now, is where I see him. I'm looking forward to that Rutgers Pro Day.

Con
02-25-2009, 01:57 AM
even w/ jenkins possibly moving to FS, you still have him in top 10?

i think if he's goign to be moved to fs, he's dropping out of top 15 at least.

wicket
02-25-2009, 02:03 AM
i think you have cullen harper to low, he was one of the better qbs in the whole senior bowl thingie

ThePudge
02-25-2009, 02:15 AM
even w/ jenkins possibly moving to FS, you still have him in top 10?

i think if he's goign to be moved to fs, he's dropping out of top 15 at least.

Malcolm Jenkins had himself an excellent day today for those of you who didn't watch and simply looked at his 40 yard dash time (4.55) His hips are fluid, he stays low, he is tremendous in his backpedal and transitions, he has great short area quickness and can stop and turn on a dime, and has top-notch ball skills. In watching positional drills for defensive backs, Jenkins looked on a completely different level.

It should be noted that his 6.59 3-Cone time was not only the best in his group, but the best at the entire Combine. He also placed very highly among DBs with a 4.07 shuttle time. Just because his 40 time was more FS than CB, doesn't mean he didn't out-shine every other corner at the Combine.

You'll be hard-pressed to watch film of Jenkins and point out flaws that would suggest he cannot play corner at the next level. Simply a very good player and a great athlete. Remember the OSU Defensive Back track record as well. Jenkins is a Top 10 value at either CB or FS.

A Perfect Score
02-25-2009, 02:20 AM
Awesome rankings. My ONE complaint would be Derrick Williams positioning. Apparently, the 40 he ran (4.58) was with the flu, and we all know hes faster then that. Im a fan of the guys, and I think he goes late 2nd-early 3rd (hopefully to my ravens). I think he has shown more and deserves to be higher then #17. Other then that though, I really see nothing on here I couldnt be convinced of with solid reasoning, including Maclin over Crabtree. Great work.

Flyboy
02-25-2009, 02:20 AM
OH! That's how gpnpc was feelin'?!

Texas Homer
02-25-2009, 02:22 AM
even w/ jenkins possibly moving to FS, you still have him in top 10?

i think if he's goign to be moved to fs, he's dropping out of top 15 at least.

I don't think so.

Even if he fell to #15, I think the Texans would take him there. FS or CB, Jenkins is a top 15 talent.

Iamcanadian
02-25-2009, 05:34 AM
Positional Rankings

Quarterbacks
1. Matthew Stafford – Georgia – Top 5 ---He is not top 5 at this point, more like top 10
2. Mark Sanchez – USC – Top 15 --- I'd say top 20. Had a terrible combine
3. Josh Freeman – Kansas State – Mid 1st-Early 2nd ---Sure 1st rounder in this weak draft class
4. Pat White – West Virginia – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd (WR)*---a second rounder if he cooperates with teams.
5. Rhett Bomar – Sam Houston State – Late 3rd-Late 4th
6. Nate Davis – Ball State – Mid 4th-Early 5th
7. Curtis Painter – Purdue – Early 5th-Early 6th
8. Hunter Cantwell – Louisville – Early 5th-Early 6th
9. Jason Boltus – Hartwick – Mid 5th-Early 6th
10. Stephen McGee – Texas A&M – Mid 5th-Late 6th
11. John Parker Wilson – Alabama – Late 5th-Early 7th
12. Cullen Harper – Clemson – Early 6th-UDFA
13. Mike Reilly – Central Washington – Early 6th-UDFA
14. Graham Harrell – Texas Tech – Mid 6th-UDFA
15. Tom Brandstater – Fresno State – Mid 6th-UDFA
16. Nathan Brown – Central Arkansas – 7th Round-UDFA
17. Drew Willy – Buffalo – 7th Round-UDFA
18. Willie Tuitama – Arizona – UDFA
19. Rudy Carpenter – Arizona State – UDFA
20. Mike Teel – Rutgers – UDFA

Running Backs
1. Chris “Beanie” Wells – Ohio State – Top 20 - shaky first rounder right now.
2. Knowshon Moreno – Georgia – Top 32 ---ditto for Moreno
3. Donald Brown – Connecticut – Late 1st-Mid 2nd ---Donald and Andre Brown may both go before the bigger name players
4. LeSean McCoy – Pittsburgh – Early-Mid 2nd
5. Andre Brown – North Carolina State – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd, ---could be the 1st RB off the board
6. Shonn Greene – Iowa – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
7. Mike Goodson – Texas A&M – Late 2nd-Early 4th
8. James Davis – Clemson – Third Round ---No worse than #3-5, 2nd or 3rd rounder
9. Devin Moore – Wyoming – Mid 3rd-Early 4th
10. Javon Ringer – Michigan State – Late 3rd-Mid 4th
11. Rashad Jennings – Liberty – Late 3rd-Late 4th
12. Kory Sheets – Purdue - Early 4th-Early 5th ---No worse than #6, 3rd rounder
13. Cedric Peerman – Virginia – Mid 4th-Early 5th
14. Glen Coffee – Alabama – Late 4th-Early 6th
15. Bernard Scott – Abilene Christian – Mid 5th-Late 6th
16. Jeremiah Johnson – Oregon – Mid 5th-Mid 6th
17. Javarris Williams – Tennessee State – Late 5th-Early 7th
18. Aaron Brown – TCU – Early 6th-Mid 7th
19. Arian Foster – Tennessee – Early 6th-Mid 7th
20. Ian Johnson – Boise State – Mid 6th-Late 7th

Fullbacks
1. Quinn Johnson – LSU – Mid 4th-Late 5th
2. Tony Fiammetta – Syracuse – Mid 4th-Late 5th ---reaffirmed that he is the top FB in this year's draft
3. Brannan Southerland – Georgia – Early 5th-Early 6th
4. Brock Bolen – Louisville – Early 6th-Mid 7th
5. Eddie Williams – Idaho – Mid 6th-UDFA
6. Jason Cook – Mississippi – Mid 6th-UDFA
7. Zeek Zacharie – Lousiana Monroe – 7th Round-UDFA
8. Eric Kettani – Navy – 7th Round-UDFA
9. Conredge Collins – Pittsburgh – 7th Round-UDFA
10. Marcus Mailei – Weber State – 7th Round-UDFA

Wide Receivers
1. Jeremy Maclin – Missouri – Top 15
2. Michael Crabtree – Texas Tech – Top 10
3. Darrius Heyward-Bey – Maryland – Top 20
4. Percy Harvin – Florida – Top 32 ---No worse than top 20 and maybe even higher
5. Hakeem Nicks – North Carolina – Late 1st-Mid 2nd ---WR'sd are clearly the strength of this draft so I'd rate Nicks as a 1st rounder
6. Kenny Britt – Rutgers – Late 1st-Mid 2nd ---1st rounder
7. Brian Robiskie – Ohio State – Second Round ---could sneak into the late 1st, a tremendous route runner
8. Pat White – West Virginia – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd (QB)*
9. Juaquin Iglesias – Oklahoma – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
10. Ramses Barden – Cal-Poly – Early 3rd-Early 4th
11. Brandon Tate – North Carolina – Mid 3rd-Early 4th
12. Louis Murphy – Florida – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th
13. Mohamed Massaquoi - Georgia – Late 3rd-Late 4th
14. Jarrett Dillard – Rice – Fourth Round
15. Demetrius Byrd – LSU – Early 4th-Early 5th
16. Kenny McKinley – South Carolina – Early 4th-Early 5th
17. Derrick Williams – Penn State – Late 3rd-Mid 5th
18. Brooks Foster – North Carolina – Early 4th-Mid 5th
19. Mike Thomas – Arizona – Mid 4th-Late 5th ---another 3rd round talent
20. Sammie Stroughter – Oregon State – Mid 4th-Late 5th
21. Mike Wallace – Mississippi – Mid 5th-Early 7th ---No worse than a 3rd rounder
22. Marko Mitchell – Nevada – Mid 5th-Early 7th
23. Deon Butler – Penn State – Late 5th-Mid 7th
24. Dominique Edison – Stephen F. Austin – Late 5th-Late 7th
25. Aaron Kelly – Clemson – Early 6th-Late 7th
26. Austin Collie – BYU - Mid 6th-UDFA
27. Jordan Norwood – Penn State – Late 6th-UDFA
28. Tiquan Underwood – Rutgers – 7th Round-UDFA---based on his combine, he'll move up quite aq bit
29. Quan Cosby – Texas – 7th Round-UDFA
30. Brian Hartline – Ohio State – 7th Round-UDFA---a 4th or 5th rounder

Tight Ends
1. Brandon Pettigrew – Oklahoma State – Top 25
2. Shawn Nelson – Southern Mississippi – Second Round
3. Jared Cook – South Carolina – Second Round
4. Chase Coffman – Missouri – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
5. Cornelius Ingram – Florida – Early 3rd-Early 4th---has a shot at round 2
6. James Casey – Rice – Mid 3rd-Early 4th
7. Travis Beckum – Wisconsin – Late 3rd-Early 5th
8. John Phillips – Virginia – Mid 4th-Mid 5th
9. Richard Quinn – North Carolina – Late 4th-Early 6th---had an excellent combine, likely 3rd rounder
10. Jared Bronson – Central Washington – Late 4th-Early 6th
11. Kory Sperry – Colorado State – Mid 5th-Early 7th
12. Anthony Hill – North Carolina State – Mid 5th-Mid 7th
13. Davon Drew – East Carolina – Late 5th-Mid 7th
14. Bear Pascoe – Fresno State – Mid 6th-UDFA
15. Cameron Morrah – California – 7th Round-UDFA ---was a real surprise at the combine, round 3/4 at worst.

Offensive Tackles
1. Jason Smith – Baylor – Top 5
2. Eugene Monroe – Virginia – Top 10 ---top 5 without any hesitation
3. Andre Smith – Alabama – Top 15 (OG)---believe it or not this guy still has a real shot to go #1 overall in this weak draft.
4. Michael Oher – Mississippi – Top 15
5. William Beatty – Connecticut – Late 1st-Early 2nd ---no way he goes before Britton, he has no hand punch and lacks functional strength but a player definitely worth developing
6. Eben Britton – Arizona – Late 1st-Early 2nd---strickly a RT and a 1st round one at that
7. Phil Loadholt – Oklahoma – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd---a 2nd rounder. His determination to prepare for the combine will impress teams
8. Jamon Meredith – South Carolina – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
9. Troy Kropog – Tulane – Early 3rd-Early 4th
10. Gerald Cadogan – Penn State – Late 3rd-Early 5th
11. Jason Watkins – Florida – Late 3rd-Early 5th
12. Cornelius Lewis – Tennessee State – Mid 4th-Early 5th (OG)---could surprise a lot of the bigger names 2nd/3rd
13. T.J. Lang – Eastern Michigan – Mid 4th-Mid 5th
14. Xavier Fulton – Illinois – Late 4th-Early 6th (OG)
15. Augustus Parrish – Kent State – Early 5th-Early 6th
16. Andrew Gardner – Georgia Tech – Late 5th-Mid 7th
17. Joel Bell – Furman – Mid 6th-UDFA
18. Fenuki Tupou – Oregon – Mid 6th-UDFA
19. Alex Boone – Ohio State – 7th Round-UDFA
20. Lydon Murtha – Nebraska – 7th Round-UDFA

Offensive Guards
1. Duke Robinson – Oklahoma – Late 1st-Mid 2nd---never see round 1, way overrated and could end up in round 3
2. Andy Levitre – Oregon State – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
3. Trevor Canfield – Cincinnati – Late 3rd-Mid 4th
4. Kraig Urbik – Wisconsin – Early 4th-Early 5th
5. Roger Allen – Missouri Western State – Late 4th-Early 6th
6. Louis Vasquez – Texas Tech – Mid 5th-Mid 6th
7. Herman Johnson – LSU – Early 5th-UDFA (RT)
8. Ray Feniga – BYU – Early 6th-UDFA
9. Greg Isander – West Virginia – Early 6th-UDFA
10. Cedric Dockery – Texas – Late 6th-UDFA
11. Seth Olsen – Iowa – 7th Round-UDFA
12. C.J. Davis – Pittsburgh – 7th Round-UDFA
13. Tyronne Green – Auburn – 7th Round – UDFA
14. Jamie Thomas – Maryland – 7th Round – UDFA
15. Brandon Walker – Oklahoma – 7th Round-UDFA

Centers
1. Alex Mack – California – Late 1st-Early 2nd---injury will drop him below Wood and Unger
2. Eric Wood – Louisville – Second Round
3. Max Unger – Oregon – Early 2nd-Early 3rd, possible 1st rounder, worst case is round 2.
4. Anoine Caldwell – Alabama – Early 3rd-Early 4th
5. Jonathan Luigs – Arkansas – Late 3rd-Early 5th
6. A.Q. Shipley – Penn State – Late 4th-Early 6th---too bad his arms are so short or he'd lead this group
7. Jon Cooper – Oklahoma – Mid 5th-Early 7th
8. Edwin Williams – Maryland – Late 5th-Early 7th
9. Juan Garcia – Washington – Early 6th-Mid 7th
10. Alex Fletcher – Stanford – Late 6th-UDFA


Defensive Ends
1. Everette Brown – Florida State – Top 10 (OLB)---top 15 after combine
2. Brian Orakpo – Texas – Top 15 (OLB)---possible top 5 in this weak draft year
3. Aaron Maybin – Penn State – Top 20 (OLB)
4. Larry English – Northern Illinois – Top 32
5. Tyson Jackson – LSU – Top 32 (3-4 DE)
6. Robert Ayers – Tennessee – Late 1st-Mid 2nd
7. Michael Johnson – Georgia Tech – Late 1st-Mid 2nd
8. Jarron Gilbert – San Jose State – Second Round (3-4 DE)---may be a 1st rounder for a 3-4 team
9. Connor Barwin – Cincinnati – Early 2nd-Early 3rd (OLB)---could surprise and squeek into late round 1 but more likely a 2nd rounder
10. Lawrence Sidbury – Richmond – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd (OLB)
11. Paul Kruger – Utah – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
12. Kyle Moore – USC – Late 3rd-Early 5th
13. David Veikune – Hawaii – Mid 4th-Late 5th
14. Tim Jamison – Michigan – Late 4th-Early 6th
15. Brandon Williams – Texas Tech – Early 5th-Mid 6th
16. Ian Campbell – Kansas State – Late 4th-Late 6th (OLB)
17. Michael Bennett – Texas A&M – Mid 5th-Early 7th
18. Will Davis – Illinois – Late 5th-Early 7th
19. Phillip Hunt – Houston – Late 5th-Mid 7th
20. Henry Melton – Texas – Early 6th-Mid 7th

Defensive Tackles
1. B.J. Raji – Boston College – Top 10 (NT)
2. Peria Jerry – Mississippi – Top 25---in this weak draft top 15 isn't out of the question
3. Evander “Ziggy” Hood – Missouri – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd---I think he solidified a 1st round grade at the combine
4. Ron Brace – Boston College – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd (NT)
5. Sen’Derrick Marks – Auburn – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
6. Fili Moala – USC – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
7. Alex Magee – Purdue – Early 3rd-Early 4th---Could go round 2 to a 3-4 team
8. Chris Baker – Hampton – Mid 3rd-Early 5th
9. Terrance Taylor – Michigan – Late 3rd-Mid 5th (NT)---probably solidiofied a round 3 grade at rthe combine
10. Mitch King – Iowa – Mid 4th-Late 5th---love this guy, I'm betting he is a 2nd rounder
11. Roy Miller – Texas – Late 4th-Early 6th
12. Sammie Lee Hill – Stillman – Mid 4th-Mid 6th (NT)
13. Dorrell Scott – Clemson – Late 4th-Mid 6th
14. Corvey Irvin – Georgia – Early 5th-Late 6th
15. Vance Walker – Georgia Tech – Mid 5th-Late 6th
16. Ricky Jean-Francois – LSU – Mid 5th-Early 7th
17. Khalif Mitchell – East Carolina – Mid 5th-Early 7th (3-4 DE)
18. John Gill – Northwestern – Late 5th-Early 7th
19. Clinton McDonald – Memphis – Late 5th-Mid 7th
20. Demonte’ Bolden – Tennessee – Mid 5th-Mid 7th
21. Marlon Pryor – Kentucky – Early 6th-Late 7th
22. Terrance Knighton – Temple – Mid 6th-UDFA (NT)
23. Daryl Richard – Georgia Tech – Late 6th-UDFA
24. Nader Abdallah – Ohio State – 7th Round-UDFA
25. Adrian Grady – Louisville – 7th Round-UDFA

Outside Linebackers
1. Aaron Curry – Wake Forest – Top 5
2. Brian Cushing – USC – Top 20
3. Clay Matthews – USC – Top 32
4. Marcus Freeman – Ohio State – Early-Mid 2nd
5. Clint Sintim – Virginia – Early-Mid 2nd
6. Gerald McRath – Southern Mississippi – Late 2nd-Late 3rd
7. Tyrone McKenzie – South Florida – Late 2nd-Late 3rd
8. Cody Brown – Connecticut – Early 3rd-Early 4th
9. Kaluka Maiava – USC – Early 4th-Late 5th
10. Victor Butler – Oregon State – Early 4th-Mid 5th
11. Jonathan Casillas – Wisconsin – Early 4th-Mid 5th
12. Zack Follett – California – Mid 4th-Late 5th
13. DeAndre Levy – Wisconsin – Late 4th-Early 6th
14. Lee Robinson – Alcorn State – Late 4th-Early 6th
15. Anthony Heygood – Purdue – Early 5th-Mid 6th
16. Nic Harris – Oklahoma – Mid 5th-Late 6th
17. Ashlee Palmer – Mississippi – Mid 5th-Late 6th
18. Moise Fokou – Maryland – Late 5th-Early 7th
19. Anthony Felder – California – Mid 6th-UDFA
20. Corey Smith – Cincinnati – 7th Round-UDFA

Inside Linebackers
1. Rey Maualuga – USC – Top 25
2. James Laurinaitis – Ohio State – Mid 1st-Early 3rd
3. Darry Beckwith – LSU – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th
4. Jasper Brinkley – South Carolina – Late 3rd-Early 5th
5. Dannell Ellerbe – Georgia – Mid 4th-Late 5th
6. Jason Phillips – TCU – Late 4th-Early 6th---he is going higher than people think
7. Stanley Arnoux – Wake Forest – Early 5th-Early 6th
8. Antonio Appleby – Virginia – Early 5th-Mid 6th
9. Scott McKillop – Pittsburgh – Mid 5th-Early 7th
10. Frantz Joseph – Florida Atlantic – Late 5th-Mid 7th
11. Worrell Williams – California – Early 6th-Mid 7th
12. Jamar Chaney – Mississippi State – Mid 6th-UDFA
13. Josh Mauga – Nevada – Mid 6th-UDFA
14. Daniel Holtzclaw – Eastern Michigan – 7th Round-UDFA
15. Maurice Crum Jr. – Nortre Dame – 7th Round-UDFA

Cornerbacks
1. Malcolm Jenkins – Ohio State – Top 10 (FS)
2. Vontae Davis – Illinois – Top 32---may have passed Jenkins as the #1 CB in the draft and top 10 isn't out of the question.
3. Alphonso Smith – Wake Forest – Late 1st-Early 2nd ---Sure fire 1st rounder, IMO, best CB in the draft but only 5'8" He'll never get past both NE and Indy.
4. Sean Smith – Utah – Late 1st-Early 2nd (FS)
5. Coye Francies – San Jose State – Second Round
6. D.J. Moore – Vanderbilt – Second Round
7. Darius Butler – Connecticut – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd---probably right behind Alphonso Smith with a shot at round 1
8. Jairus Byrd – Oregon – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
9. Sherrod Martin – Troy – Mid 3rd-Early 4th (FS)
10. Cary Harris – USC – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th
11. Bruce Johnson – Miami – Late 3rd-Late 4th
12. Bradley Fletcher – Iowa – Late 3rd-Early 5th
13. Victor “Macho” Harris – Virginia Tech – Late 3rd-Early 5th (FS)
14. Kevin Barnes – Maryland – Late 3rd-Early 5th
15. Mike Mickens – Cincinnati – Early 4th-Early 5th
16. Asher Allen – Georgia – Early 4th-Mid 5th
17. Jerraud Powers – Auburn – Mid 4th-Mid 5th
18. Chris Owens – San Jose State – Mid 4th-Mid 5th
19. DeAngelo Smith – Cincinnati – Late 4th-Late 5th (FS)
20. Brandon Underwood – Cincinnati – Late 4th-Early 6th (FS)
21. Captain Munnerlyn – South Carolina – Late 4th-Early 6th
22. Mark Parson – Ohio University – Mid 5th-Early 7th
23. Joe Burnett – Central Florida – Mid 5th-Early 7th
24. Ryan Palmer – Texas – Late 5th-Mid 7th
25. Keenan Lewis – Oregon State – Late 5th-Mid 7th
26. Donald Washington – Ohio State – Late 5th-Mid 7th
27. Domonique Johnson – Jackson State – Late 5th-Mid 7th
28. Brandon Hughes – Oregon State – Early 6th-Late 7th
29. LaDarius Webb – Nicholls State – Mid 6th-UDFA
30. Tony Carter – Florida State – 7th Round-UDFA

Safeties
1. Rashad Johnson – Alabama – Early-Mid 2nd Round
2. Louis Delmas – Western Michigan – Second Round---I'd say late 1st early second
3. William Moore – Missouri – Second Round---may have to shift to LBer
4. Chip Vaughn – Wake Forest – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd
5. Patrick Chung – Oregon – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd---might actually top this list and be a 1st rounder
6. Michael Hamlin – Clemson – Third Round
7. David Bruton – Notre Dame – Early 3rd-Early 4th
8. Curtis Taylor – LSU – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th
9. Darcel McBath – Texas Tech – Late 3rd-Late 4th
10. Emmanuel Cook – South Carolina – Late 3rd-Late 4th---Probably goes off the board in the 3rd. He is a hitter delux
11. Stephen Hodge – TCU – Mid 4th-Mid 5th (OLB)
12. Courtney Greene – Rutgers – Late 4th-Early 6th
13. C.J. Spillman – Marshall – Early 5th-Mid 6th
14. Trimane Goddard – North Carolina – Mid 5th-Early 7th
15. Derek Pegues – Mississippi State – Early 6th-UDFA

Kickers/Punters
1. Graham Gano – Florida State – Late 5th-UDFA (K/P)
2. Kevin Huber – Cincinnati – Late 5th-UDFA (P)
3. David Buehler – USC – Mid 6th-UDFA (K)
4. Thomas Morstead – SMU – Mid 6th-UDFA (P)
5. Ryan Succop – South Carolina – UDFA (K)


Big Board – Top 150

1. Aaron Curry – OLB – Wake Forest---Ditto
2. Jason Smith – OT – Baylor ---Ditto
3. Matthew Stafford – QB – Georgia---more like #6 or 7 right now
4. B.J. Raji – DT – Boston College---#6 to 8 guy IMO
5. Jeremy Maclin – WR/RS – Missouri---A 10 to 12 talent
6. Eugene Monroe – OT – Virginia---#4 for me
7. Malcolm Jenkins – CB/FS – Ohio State---more like #15 to me
8. Michael Crabtree – WR – Texas Tech---If you believe in his speed, he's #2 or 3
9. Everette Brown – DE/OLB – Florida State---12-18 type
10. Andre Smith – OT/OG – Alabama---as crazy as it sounds, I still think he is one of the few elite prospects in this draft and if he has the kind of workout I suspect, he could still go #1 overall if none of the QB's improve their status.
11. Mark Sanchez – QB – USC
12. Brian Orakpo – DE/OLB – Texas ---Top 10 for sure maybe even top 5.
13. Michael Oher – OT – Mississippi
14. Chris “Beanie” Wells – RB – Ohio State---will be lucky to get taken at the end of round 1
15. Brian Cushing – OLB – USC
16. Aaron Maybin – DE/OLB – Penn State
17. Darrius Heyward-Bey – WR/KR – Maryland---could jump to say the early teens
18. Brandon Pettigrew – TE – Oklahoma State
19. Rey Maualuga – ILB – USC
20. Peria Jerry – DT – Mississippi---another very possible early teens guy
21. Percy Harvin – WR/RS – Florida---10 to 15 at worst
22. Knowshon Moreno – RB - Georgia---will struggle to stay in round 1
23. Vontae Davis – CB - Illinois---could go top 10
24. Clay Matthews – OLB – USC
25. Larry English – DE – Northern Illinois
26. Tyson Jackson – DE/DT – LSU
27. Alex Mack – C - California
28. James Laurinaitis – MLB/WLB – Ohio State
29. Alphonso Smith – CB – Wake Forest---wiull go higher
30. Hakeem Nicks – WR – North Carolina
31. Sean Smith – CB/FS – Utah
32. William Beatty – OT - Connecticut---not a 1st rounder
33. Josh Freeman – QB – Kansas State---1st rounder
34. Donald Brown – RB – Connecticut
35. Kenny Britt – WR – Rutgers---1st rounder
36. Robert Ayers – DE – Tennessee
37. Duke Robinson – OG – Oklahoma---way too high
38. Eben Britton – OT – Arizona---1st rounder
39. Michael Johnson – DE – Georgia Tech
40. LeSean McCoy – RB – Pittsburgh
41. Rashad Johnson – S – Alabama
42. Marcus Freeman – OLB – Ohio State
43. Clint Sintim – OLB – Virginia
44. Eric Wood – C - Louisville---too low
45. Louis Delmas – S – Western Michigan---too low, possible 1st rounder
46. Jarron Gilbert – DE/DT – San Jose State---possible 1st rounder
47. William Moore – S – Missouri
48. Coye Francies – CB – San Jose State
49. Shawn Nelson – TE – Southern Mississippi
50. D.J. Moore – CB – Vanderbilt
51. Jared Cook – TE – South Carolina---too low
52. Max Unger – C – Oregon---too low
53. Brian Robiskie – WR – Ohio State---too low
54. Connor Barwin – OLB/DE – Cincinnati
55. Darius Butler – CB – Connecticut
56. Evander “Ziggy” Hood – DT – Missouri---possible 1st rounder
57. Ron Brace – DT/NT – Boston College
58. Phil Loadholt – OT - Oklahoma
59. Chip Vaughn – S – Wake Forest
60. Pat White – WR/QB - West Virginia
61. Lawrence Sidbury – DE/OLB – Richmond
62. Patrick Chung – S - Oregon---too low
63. Gerald McRath – OLB – Southern Mississippi
64. Sen’Derrick Marks – DT – Auburn
65. Chase Coffman – TE – Missouri
66. Jairus Byrd – CB – Oregon
67. Andre Brown – RB – North Carolina State---could be the 1st RB in the draft
68. Andy Levitre – OG/C – Oregon State
69. Shonn Greene – RB - Iowa
70. Fili Moala – DT – USC
71. Jamon Meredith – OT – South Carolina
72. Juaquin Iglesias – WR – Oklahoma
73. Paul Kruger – DE – Utah
74. Tyrone McKenzie – OLB – South Florida
75. Mike Goodson – RB – Texas A&M
76. Michael Hamlin – S – Clemson
77. James Davis – RB – Clemson
78. Cody Brown – OLB – Connecticut
79. Troy Kropog – OT – Tulane
80. Ramses Barden – WR – Cal-Poly
81. Alex Magee – DT – Purdue
82. Cornelius Ingram – TE – Florida
83. David Bruton – S – Notre Dame
84. Antoine Caldwell – C – Alabama
85. Sherrod Martin – CB/FS – Troy
86. James Casey – TE/H-B – Rice
87. Brandon Tate – WR – North Carolina
88. Devin Moore – RB – Wyoming
89. Darry Beckwith – MLB - LSU
90. Cary Harris – CB – USC
91. Curtis Taylor – S – LSU
92. Louis Murphy – WR – Florida
93. Chris Baker – DT – Hampton
94. Javon Ringer – RB – Michigan State
95. Mohamed Massaquoi – WR – Georgia
96. Bruce Johnson – CB - Miami
97. Darcel McBath – S – Texas Tech
98. Emmanuel Cook – S – South Carolina
99. Rhett Bomar – QB – Sam Houston State
100. Trevor Canfield – OG - Cincinnati
101. Rashad Jennings – RB – Liberty
102. Travis Beckum – TE/H-B – Wisconsin
103. Gerald Cadogan – OT – Penn State
104. Jasper Brinkley – ILB – South Carolina
105. Jason Watkins – OT - Florida
106. Bradley Fletcher – CB – Iowa
107. Victor “Macho” Harris – CB/FS – Virginia Tech
108. Jonathan Luigs – C – Arkansas
109. Kevin Barnes – CB – Maryland
110. Kyle Moore – DE – USC
111. Terrance Taylor – DT/NT – Michigan
112. Jarret Dillard – WR – Rice
113. Mike Mickens – CB – Cincinnati
114. Kory Sheets – RB – Purdue
115. Asher Allen – CB – Georgia
116. Demetrius Byrd – WR – LSU
117. Kraig Urbik – OG – Wisconsin
118. Kenny McKinley – WR – South Carolina
119. Cornelius Lewis – OT/OG – Tennessee State
120. Cedric Peerman – RB – Virginia
121. Derrick Williams – RS/WR – Penn State
122. John Phillips – TE – Virginia
123. Kaluka Maiava – OLB - USC
124. Nate Davis – QB – Ball State
125. Brooks Foster – WR – North Carolina
126. Stephen Hodge – S/OLB – TCU
127. T.J. Lang – OT/OG – Eastern Michigan
128. Jerraud Powers – CB – Auburn
129. Quinn Johnson – FB – LSU
130. Dannell Ellerbe – MLB - Georgia
131. Victor Butler – OLB/DE – Oregon State
132. Mike Thomas – WR - Arizona
133. Chris Owens – CB – San Jose State
134. David Veikune – DE – Hawaii
135. Jonathan Casillas – OLB - Wisconsin
136. Tony Fiammetta – FB – Syracuse
137. Sammie Stroughter – WR – Oregon State
138. Zack Follett – OLB - California
139. Mitch King – DT/ILB – Iowa
140. DeAngelo Smith – CB/FS – Cincinnati
141. Glen Coffee – RB – Alabama
142. A.Q. Shipley – C – Penn State
143. Richard Quinn – TE – North Carolina
144. Tim Jamison – DE - Michigan
145. Courtney Greene – S – Rutgers
146. Roger Allen – OG – Missouri Western State
147. Roy Miller – DT - Texas
148. Brandon Underwood – CB/FS – Cincinnati
149. Sammie Lee Hill – DT/NT - Stillman
150. Captain Munnerlyn – CB – South Carolina


Lot of hard work there but I have some strong disagreements. IMO, it is a wqeak draft and a lot of big names are going to slide.

thenewfeature06
02-25-2009, 07:07 AM
chung is defintely too low..

steelcrew43
02-25-2009, 07:48 AM
ian johnson last on your list ..why?

great combine... good vision ... great intangibles... decent size.. he's a top 8 RB

AkiliSmith
02-25-2009, 08:46 AM
I have Tyronne Greene ranked a lot higher after his strong showing at the Senior Bowl but that's really the only thing I disagree with.

Sniper
02-25-2009, 09:29 AM
Awesome rankings. My ONE complaint would be Derrick Williams positioning. Apparently, the 40 he ran (4.58) was with the flu, and we all know hes faster then that. Im a fan of the guys, and I think he goes late 2nd-early 3rd (hopefully to my ravens). I think he has shown more and deserves to be higher then #17. Other then that though, I really see nothing on here I couldnt be convinced of with solid reasoning, including Maclin over Crabtree. Great work.

He has shown nothing to be deemed a top 20 WR.

ThePudge
02-25-2009, 09:53 AM
ian johnson last on your list ..why?

great combine... good vision ... great intangibles... decent size.. he's a top 8 RB

I don't doubt Ian Johnson's initial vision, nor dor I doubt his ability to run a 40 yard dash. However, something I have noticed his past two seasons on film: as he is accelerating to top speed and at top speed, Johnson tend to has his face glued to the ground.

He's not an overly fast or powerful runner. If you go back on tape you can see that. He's an NFL backup RB type, but doesn't have some of those key backup features to make a complete believer out of me. He doesn't add much Special Teams value, he's fairly average out of the backfield, and he has not yet develop into a good pass-blocking RB. Now, some of this may be correctable and I could definitely see Johnson becoming an effective player in a one-cut ZBS system that would allow his instincts as a runner take over. Elsewhere, I think Johnson is a backup RB.

Noting against Ian, and I was very impressed with his Combine workout as a whole, but he is a guy that I have watched a lot of and sometimes we know game-speed/quickness is different than that without pads.

ThePudge
02-25-2009, 12:46 PM
As an extra note it would appear as though I've excluded Matt Shaughnessy who projects, in my opinion, as an Early 4th-Mid 5th Round pick at DE.

derza222
02-25-2009, 01:01 PM
I really like the rankings a lot. Big fan of Maclin also, I hope teams underrate him and the Jets end up with him, I'd trade up for him in a heartbeat. Think he's a perfect fit there.

Anyways, any chance you can go into your 4-6 WR rankings a little more? DHB may have solidified himself at 3 a little with his forty but that group intrigues me as there's a lot of ways you can look at it. Also, will you be putting together a mock any time soon?

ThePudge
02-25-2009, 06:54 PM
Anyways, any chance you can go into your 4-6 WR rankings a little more? DHB may have solidified himself at 3 a little with his forty but that group intrigues me as there's a lot of ways you can look at it. Also, will you be putting together a mock any time soon?

1. Maclin
2. Crabtree
3. Heyward-Bey

4. Percy Harvin - 5'11 1/8 - 192 - 4.41

- Harvin is a somewhat confusing prospect and you could really make an argument against him: his playing style, his durability, or even the track record of Florida WR's. He also has it in his head that he's the best and can rub some people the wrong way. What you can't make an argument about is his raw talent, athleticism, and that he's flat out, a very good football player.

I cannot claim to know how Harvin will be used at the next level really, but I'm confident that talent will prevail and he'll be able to have a good NFL career. He's undersized, but not short or frail. He runs tough after the catch and with the ball in his hands. He has explosive athletic ability and relatively untapped potential as a Punt Returner/Kick Returner. He shows remarkable short-area quickness, elusiveness in space, and breakaway speed in addition to very solid hands, crisp routes (though he has not been asked to run a full route tree), and the will & toughness to put his nose down and get that extra yard.

He is an extremely talented athlete that may be asked to do a number of things at the next level. He could conceivably be the league's top all-purpose player with capabilities at WR/PR/KR/RB and would be ideal for a team that wants to run a "Wildcat" from time to time. He has so much value everywhere. In my opinion a better prospect than both DeSean Jackson or Eddie Royal, both of whom made big impacts in their rookie year's. There is just so much he can do and so much overall versatility. I see his best fit as a #2 WR, Punt Returner, and a potential terror on end-arounds or from the wild-cat. More of an ATH prospect than WR, but still has some very good tools for the Wide Receiver position.


5. Hakeem Nicks - 6'0 3/4 - 212 - 4.50

- I like Hakeem Nicks a lot, he has that Dwayne Bowe feel for, at the worst we'd be looking at a faster-Marty Booker type. He's not going to offer you anything other than a WR, but he offers you #1 potential at that Wide Receiver spot. Nicks is just a solid all-around football player. He's not overly big, he's not overly fast; however, he's big enough and uses his size well, he's fast enough and does not have problems separating.

The little things in his game are where you want to see them. He's physical, he runs good routes, he has big, soft hands, and is a threat after the catch with his quickness, speed, and physicality. No part of his game really blows you away exactly, but Nicks is a football player. He works for tough yardage and runs well after the catch. He shows effort in the blocking game and seems to have solid character and a good head on his shoulders. He's not afraid to go over the middle and despite not having top-end vertical speed, had 18.0 ypc in the ACC. Just a very good football player and a player I like a lot.


6. Kenny Britt - 6'2 7/8 - 218 - 4.47

- It's not that I don't like Britt, because I do. I have Nicks & him very closely rated with the exact same draft stock. At this point, it's a matter of team preference. Britt has the best combination of size and speed among the three and has the production to match his physical ability. I personally consider Britt the riskiest of the three though, with the biggest difference between his ceiling and floor.

Many believe he was simply a vertical threat in college when they look at his height and ypc, but that doesn't do his playing style justice. He is big, strong, and very physical in addition to having that speed. He is not as elusive with the ball in his hands as Harvin or Nicks, but he runs very hard and can break tackles. He was a solid blocking WR at the college level and could become dominant in the area at the NFL level with his size and strength.

As I said before, Britt doesn't have much short area quickness and probably is just a bit behind Hakeem Nicks as far as route-running and hands, but that's not to say Britt is not a fine player there in his own right. He is the best pure vertical threat of the three and the toughest to bring down over the middle as well. His size, speed, and physicality allows him to get separation as well as underrated route-running ability. He has #1 WR potential and could find a home in the Late 1st Round, but like Nicks and Harvin, he's not without a bit of risk.


- Also, I should have a mock draft up by the end of the week. Hopefully tomorrow night. Expecting to put out a three-round mock, which is all I can really do until the Compensation Picks are released.

JRTPlaya21
02-25-2009, 07:18 PM
No Kevin Ogletree?

ThePudge
02-25-2009, 07:37 PM
No Kevin Ogletree?

Glad you mentioned Ogletree, as I tried to squeeze him into that Top 30. Honestly, if it were a Top 31 WR's, you can bet he'd be that guy that gets in, followed by Darius Passmore from Marshall.

I think Ogletree helped himself at the Combine, but he didn't necessarily shock anybody. I'm waiting on the Pro Days for my next major rankings shake-up, and Kevin Ogletree, as well as those WR's I have ranked 25-30, is a guy I'm watching closely as I rank their draft stocks so closely. If the draft were tomorrow, I think he'd have a good shot at being drafted. All it takes is one team to fall in love with a player. Glad you brought him up as I tried to squeeze him in, yet I wanted the number divisible by 5 so it'd be all easier to follow.

MarioPalmer
02-25-2009, 07:54 PM
Very good rankings. I'm glad you didn't kill prospects because of the Combine nor blow them up to unreasonable expectations either.

I do like your James Laurianaitis projection of being a 3rd rounder. I could definitly see the same thing. I remember the Dan Conner homers last year that had him going late 1rst and even some calling him one of the best 3 OLBs in the draft and then he took a nose dive into the 3rd round. I could definitly see James going that route, and I think a 3rd round MLB still has solid NFL production ahead of him, he will just have to be a more cerabrel player then ever to make a consistant impact.

As for your other rankings I have them pretty much exactly the same. Although I do think that Sanchez is closer then Stafford then most think. BUt very very good Pudge.

oregonbucfan
02-25-2009, 08:45 PM
Unger a 2nd 3rd rd pick? He had a solid combine. Should be late 1st early 2nd.

Chung is a solid early 2nd rd pick and he isnt the 5th safety. Some sites thinks he may slide into the first.

Brown Leader
02-25-2009, 09:00 PM
Not a lot of people realize that Jeremy Maclin is not Ted Ginn Jr. He's not a speed receiver, he's a complete, talented receiver with speed. He is a chiseled 6'0 1/8 198 who excels in the game's finer points. His hands, route-running, blocking, elite return ability, and toughness as a player and person are what have me hooked. His speed in pads is remarkable and that shows up on film against NFL caliber athletes, I don't necessarily need to see a sub 4.35 40 yard dash.

I don't question his toughness-I question his durability.

BTY-Great DE/DT/LB rankings.

Sleeper WR prospect-Pat Turner. Reminds me of Jurevicious.

ThePudge
02-25-2009, 09:09 PM
I don't question his toughness-I question his durability.

BTY-Great DE/DT/LB rankings.

Sleeper WR prospect-Pat Turner. Reminds me of Jurevicious.

Why do you question his durability? In 2006 he sustained a serious knee injury and did not play. That injury apparently has healed 100% and not affected him as a player as he went on to play all of 2007 and 2008 at a very high, fast, and most importantly, healthy level. He sustained a very minor injury at the Combine this year which shelved him for some drills and tests, but it has recently been confirmed that he will not even need an MRI. All signs point to Maclin being healthy and ready to do a complete workout at his Pro Day.

His build is not frail either. At 6'0 200 (1/8 and 2 lbs off his Combine height-weight) he is well built and is used to being hit by NFL athletes (Oklahoma/Texas/Illinois, etc.) His legs are a bit skinny, but he is a WR. His build compares to Chad Johnson and does not have much injury history compared to many others.

shady00
02-25-2009, 09:17 PM
Alright, the Combine is now in the books and you had to assume I'd be back posting excessively long rankings. I dedicated the week to watching the Combine, talking draft with you guys, and worked tonight on putting everything into rankings. I must admit, I am very happy with the rankings right now and should be putting out a Mock Draft too, as well as a Bengals Draft Database, within the week. Hope all you guys had a great time watching the Combine's stories unravel this year, and hope you enjoy these new rankings.

Questions/Comments are encouraged. I'm willing to defend my opinion, but will be open minded and tell you exactly why I put a specific player ahead of another. I understand some of you will disagree, and that is expected. Please try not to be stubborn or ignorant and if you disagree with why a player is so high or low on my board, simply ask. Enjoy!

Positional Rankings

Quarterbacks
1. Matthew Stafford – Georgia – Top 5
2. Mark Sanchez – USC – Top 15
3. Josh Freeman – Kansas State – Mid 1st-Early 2nd
4. Pat White – West Virginia – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd (WR)*
5. Rhett Bomar – Sam Houston State – Late 3rd-Late 4th
6. Nate Davis – Ball State – Mid 4th-Early 5th
7. Curtis Painter – Purdue – Early 5th-Early 6th
8. Hunter Cantwell – Louisville – Early 5th-Early 6th
9. Jason Boltus – Hartwick – Mid 5th-Early 6th
10. Stephen McGee – Texas A&M – Mid 5th-Late 6th
11. John Parker Wilson – Alabama – Late 5th-Early 7th
12. Cullen Harper – Clemson – Early 6th-UDFA
13. Mike Reilly – Central Washington – Early 6th-UDFA
14. Graham Harrell – Texas Tech – Mid 6th-UDFA
15. Tom Brandstater – Fresno State – Mid 6th-UDFA
16. Nathan Brown – Central Arkansas – 7th Round-UDFA
17. Drew Willy – Buffalo – 7th Round-UDFA
18. Willie Tuitama – Arizona – UDFA
19. Rudy Carpenter – Arizona State – UDFA
20. Mike Teel – Rutgers – UDFA

Running Backs
1. Chris “Beanie” Wells – Ohio State – Top 20
2. Knowshon Moreno – Georgia – Top 32
3. Donald Brown – Connecticut – Late 1st-Mid 2nd
4. LeSean McCoy – Pittsburgh – Early-Mid 2nd
5. Andre Brown – North Carolina State – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
6. Shonn Greene – Iowa – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
7. Mike Goodson – Texas A&M – Late 2nd-Early 4th
8. James Davis – Clemson – Third Round
9. Devin Moore – Wyoming – Mid 3rd-Early 4th
10. Javon Ringer – Michigan State – Late 3rd-Mid 4th
11. Rashad Jennings – Liberty – Late 3rd-Late 4th
12. Kory Sheets – Purdue - Early 4th-Early 5th
13. Cedric Peerman – Virginia – Mid 4th-Early 5th
14. Glen Coffee – Alabama – Late 4th-Early 6th
15. Bernard Scott – Abilene Christian – Mid 5th-Late 6th
16. Jeremiah Johnson – Oregon – Mid 5th-Mid 6th
17. Javarris Williams – Tennessee State – Late 5th-Early 7th
18. Aaron Brown – TCU – Early 6th-Mid 7th
19. Arian Foster – Tennessee – Early 6th-Mid 7th
20. Ian Johnson – Boise State – Mid 6th-Late 7th

Fullbacks
1. Quinn Johnson – LSU – Mid 4th-Late 5th
2. Tony Fiammetta – Syracuse – Mid 4th-Late 5th
3. Brannan Southerland – Georgia – Early 5th-Early 6th
4. Brock Bolen – Louisville – Early 6th-Mid 7th
5. Eddie Williams – Idaho – Mid 6th-UDFA
6. Jason Cook – Mississippi – Mid 6th-UDFA
7. Zeek Zacharie – Lousiana Monroe – 7th Round-UDFA
8. Eric Kettani – Navy – 7th Round-UDFA
9. Conredge Collins – Pittsburgh – 7th Round-UDFA
10. Marcus Mailei – Weber State – 7th Round-UDFA

Wide Receivers
1. Jeremy Maclin – Missouri – Top 15
2. Michael Crabtree – Texas Tech – Top 10
3. Darrius Heyward-Bey – Maryland – Top 20
4. Percy Harvin – Florida – Top 32
5. Hakeem Nicks – North Carolina – Late 1st-Mid 2nd
6. Kenny Britt – Rutgers – Late 1st-Mid 2nd
7. Brian Robiskie – Ohio State – Second Round
8. Pat White – West Virginia – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd (QB)*
9. Juaquin Iglesias – Oklahoma – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
10. Ramses Barden – Cal-Poly – Early 3rd-Early 4th
11. Brandon Tate – North Carolina – Mid 3rd-Early 4th
12. Louis Murphy – Florida – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th
13. Mohamed Massaquoi - Georgia – Late 3rd-Late 4th
14. Jarrett Dillard – Rice – Fourth Round
15. Demetrius Byrd – LSU – Early 4th-Early 5th
16. Kenny McKinley – South Carolina – Early 4th-Early 5th
17. Derrick Williams – Penn State – Late 3rd-Mid 5th
18. Brooks Foster – North Carolina – Early 4th-Mid 5th
19. Mike Thomas – Arizona – Mid 4th-Late 5th
20. Sammie Stroughter – Oregon State – Mid 4th-Late 5th
21. Mike Wallace – Mississippi – Mid 5th-Early 7th
22. Marko Mitchell – Nevada – Mid 5th-Early 7th
23. Deon Butler – Penn State – Late 5th-Mid 7th
24. Dominique Edison – Stephen F. Austin – Late 5th-Late 7th
25. Aaron Kelly – Clemson – Early 6th-Late 7th
26. Austin Collie – BYU - Mid 6th-UDFA
27. Jordan Norwood – Penn State – Late 6th-UDFA
28. Tiquan Underwood – Rutgers – 7th Round-UDFA
29. Quan Cosby – Texas – 7th Round-UDFA
30. Brian Hartline – Ohio State – 7th Round-UDFA

Tight Ends
1. Brandon Pettigrew – Oklahoma State – Top 25
2. Shawn Nelson – Southern Mississippi – Second Round
3. Jared Cook – South Carolina – Second Round
4. Chase Coffman – Missouri – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
5. Cornelius Ingram – Florida – Early 3rd-Early 4th
6. James Casey – Rice – Mid 3rd-Early 4th
7. Travis Beckum – Wisconsin – Late 3rd-Early 5th
8. John Phillips – Virginia – Mid 4th-Mid 5th
9. Richard Quinn – North Carolina – Late 4th-Early 6th
10. Jared Bronson – Central Washington – Late 4th-Early 6th
11. Kory Sperry – Colorado State – Mid 5th-Early 7th
12. Anthony Hill – North Carolina State – Mid 5th-Mid 7th
13. Davon Drew – East Carolina – Late 5th-Mid 7th
14. Bear Pascoe – Fresno State – Mid 6th-UDFA
15. Cameron Morrah – California – 7th Round-UDFA

Offensive Tackles
1. Jason Smith – Baylor – Top 5
2. Eugene Monroe – Virginia – Top 10
3. Andre Smith – Alabama – Top 15 (OG)
4. Michael Oher – Mississippi – Top 15
5. William Beatty – Connecticut – Late 1st-Early 2nd
6. Eben Britton – Arizona – Late 1st-Early 2nd
7. Phil Loadholt – Oklahoma – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd
8. Jamon Meredith – South Carolina – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
9. Troy Kropog – Tulane – Early 3rd-Early 4th
10. Gerald Cadogan – Penn State – Late 3rd-Early 5th
11. Jason Watkins – Florida – Late 3rd-Early 5th
12. Cornelius Lewis – Tennessee State – Mid 4th-Early 5th (OG)
13. T.J. Lang – Eastern Michigan – Mid 4th-Mid 5th
14. Xavier Fulton – Illinois – Late 4th-Early 6th (OG)
15. Augustus Parrish – Kent State – Early 5th-Early 6th
16. Andrew Gardner – Georgia Tech – Late 5th-Mid 7th
17. Joel Bell – Furman – Mid 6th-UDFA
18. Fenuki Tupou – Oregon – Mid 6th-UDFA
19. Alex Boone – Ohio State – 7th Round-UDFA
20. Lydon Murtha – Nebraska – 7th Round-UDFA

Offensive Guards
1. Duke Robinson – Oklahoma – Late 1st-Mid 2nd
2. Andy Levitre – Oregon State – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
3. Trevor Canfield – Cincinnati – Late 3rd-Mid 4th
4. Kraig Urbik – Wisconsin – Early 4th-Early 5th
5. Roger Allen – Missouri Western State – Late 4th-Early 6th
6. Louis Vasquez – Texas Tech – Mid 5th-Mid 6th
7. Herman Johnson – LSU – Early 5th-UDFA (RT)
8. Ray Feniga – BYU – Early 6th-UDFA
9. Greg Isander – West Virginia – Early 6th-UDFA
10. Cedric Dockery – Texas – Late 6th-UDFA
11. Seth Olsen – Iowa – 7th Round-UDFA
12. C.J. Davis – Pittsburgh – 7th Round-UDFA
13. Tyronne Green – Auburn – 7th Round – UDFA
14. Jamie Thomas – Maryland – 7th Round – UDFA
15. Brandon Walker – Oklahoma – 7th Round-UDFA

Centers
1. Alex Mack – California – Late 1st-Early 2nd
2. Eric Wood – Louisville – Second Round
3. Max Unger – Oregon – Early 2nd-Early 3rd
4. Anoine Caldwell – Alabama – Early 3rd-Early 4th
5. Jonathan Luigs – Arkansas – Late 3rd-Early 5th
6. A.Q. Shipley – Penn State – Late 4th-Early 6th
7. Jon Cooper – Oklahoma – Mid 5th-Early 7th
8. Edwin Williams – Maryland – Late 5th-Early 7th
9. Juan Garcia – Washington – Early 6th-Mid 7th
10. Alex Fletcher – Stanford – Late 6th-UDFA


Defensive Ends
1. Everette Brown – Florida State – Top 10 (OLB)
2. Brian Orakpo – Texas – Top 15 (OLB)
3. Aaron Maybin – Penn State – Top 20 (OLB)
4. Larry English – Northern Illinois – Top 32
5. Tyson Jackson – LSU – Top 32 (3-4 DE)
6. Robert Ayers – Tennessee – Late 1st-Mid 2nd
7. Michael Johnson – Georgia Tech – Late 1st-Mid 2nd
8. Jarron Gilbert – San Jose State – Second Round (3-4 DE)
9. Connor Barwin – Cincinnati – Early 2nd-Early 3rd (OLB)
10. Lawrence Sidbury – Richmond – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd (OLB)
11. Paul Kruger – Utah – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
12. Kyle Moore – USC – Late 3rd-Early 5th
13. David Veikune – Hawaii – Mid 4th-Late 5th
14. Tim Jamison – Michigan – Late 4th-Early 6th
15. Brandon Williams – Texas Tech – Early 5th-Mid 6th
16. Ian Campbell – Kansas State – Late 4th-Late 6th (OLB)
17. Michael Bennett – Texas A&M – Mid 5th-Early 7th
18. Will Davis – Illinois – Late 5th-Early 7th
19. Phillip Hunt – Houston – Late 5th-Mid 7th
20. Henry Melton – Texas – Early 6th-Mid 7th

Defensive Tackles
1. B.J. Raji – Boston College – Top 10 (NT)
2. Peria Jerry – Mississippi – Top 25
3. Evander “Ziggy” Hood – Missouri – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd
4. Ron Brace – Boston College – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd (NT)
5. Sen’Derrick Marks – Auburn – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
6. Fili Moala – USC – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
7. Alex Magee – Purdue – Early 3rd-Early 4th
8. Chris Baker – Hampton – Mid 3rd-Early 5th
9. Terrance Taylor – Michigan – Late 3rd-Mid 5th (NT)
10. Mitch King – Iowa – Mid 4th-Late 5th
11. Roy Miller – Texas – Late 4th-Early 6th
12. Sammie Lee Hill – Stillman – Mid 4th-Mid 6th (NT)
13. Dorrell Scott – Clemson – Late 4th-Mid 6th
14. Corvey Irvin – Georgia – Early 5th-Late 6th
15. Vance Walker – Georgia Tech – Mid 5th-Late 6th
16. Ricky Jean-Francois – LSU – Mid 5th-Early 7th
17. Khalif Mitchell – East Carolina – Mid 5th-Early 7th (3-4 DE)
18. John Gill – Northwestern – Late 5th-Early 7th
19. Clinton McDonald – Memphis – Late 5th-Mid 7th
20. Demonte’ Bolden – Tennessee – Mid 5th-Mid 7th
21. Marlon Pryor – Kentucky – Early 6th-Late 7th
22. Terrance Knighton – Temple – Mid 6th-UDFA (NT)
23. Daryl Richard – Georgia Tech – Late 6th-UDFA
24. Nader Abdallah – Ohio State – 7th Round-UDFA
25. Adrian Grady – Louisville – 7th Round-UDFA

Outside Linebackers
1. Aaron Curry – Wake Forest – Top 5
2. Brian Cushing – USC – Top 20
3. Clay Matthews – USC – Top 32
4. Marcus Freeman – Ohio State – Early-Mid 2nd
5. Clint Sintim – Virginia – Early-Mid 2nd
6. Gerald McRath – Southern Mississippi – Late 2nd-Late 3rd
7. Tyrone McKenzie – South Florida – Late 2nd-Late 3rd
8. Cody Brown – Connecticut – Early 3rd-Early 4th
9. Kaluka Maiava – USC – Early 4th-Late 5th
10. Victor Butler – Oregon State – Early 4th-Mid 5th
11. Jonathan Casillas – Wisconsin – Early 4th-Mid 5th
12. Zack Follett – California – Mid 4th-Late 5th
13. DeAndre Levy – Wisconsin – Late 4th-Early 6th
14. Lee Robinson – Alcorn State – Late 4th-Early 6th
15. Anthony Heygood – Purdue – Early 5th-Mid 6th
16. Nic Harris – Oklahoma – Mid 5th-Late 6th
17. Ashlee Palmer – Mississippi – Mid 5th-Late 6th
18. Moise Fokou – Maryland – Late 5th-Early 7th
19. Anthony Felder – California – Mid 6th-UDFA
20. Corey Smith – Cincinnati – 7th Round-UDFA

Inside Linebackers
1. Rey Maualuga – USC – Top 25
2. James Laurinaitis – Ohio State – Mid 1st-Early 3rd
3. Darry Beckwith – LSU – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th
4. Jasper Brinkley – South Carolina – Late 3rd-Early 5th
5. Dannell Ellerbe – Georgia – Mid 4th-Late 5th
6. Jason Phillips – TCU – Late 4th-Early 6th
7. Stanley Arnoux – Wake Forest – Early 5th-Early 6th
8. Antonio Appleby – Virginia – Early 5th-Mid 6th
9. Scott McKillop – Pittsburgh – Mid 5th-Early 7th
10. Frantz Joseph – Florida Atlantic – Late 5th-Mid 7th
11. Worrell Williams – California – Early 6th-Mid 7th
12. Jamar Chaney – Mississippi State – Mid 6th-UDFA
13. Josh Mauga – Nevada – Mid 6th-UDFA
14. Daniel Holtzclaw – Eastern Michigan – 7th Round-UDFA
15. Maurice Crum Jr. – Nortre Dame – 7th Round-UDFA

Cornerbacks
1. Malcolm Jenkins – Ohio State – Top 10 (FS)
2. Vontae Davis – Illinois – Top 32
3. Alphonso Smith – Wake Forest – Late 1st-Early 2nd
4. Sean Smith – Utah – Late 1st-Early 2nd (FS)
5. Coye Francies – San Jose State – Second Round
6. D.J. Moore – Vanderbilt – Second Round
7. Darius Butler – Connecticut – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd
8. Jairus Byrd – Oregon – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
9. Sherrod Martin – Troy – Mid 3rd-Early 4th (FS)
10. Cary Harris – USC – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th
11. Bruce Johnson – Miami – Late 3rd-Late 4th
12. Bradley Fletcher – Iowa – Late 3rd-Early 5th
13. Victor “Macho” Harris – Virginia Tech – Late 3rd-Early 5th (FS)
14. Kevin Barnes – Maryland – Late 3rd-Early 5th
15. Mike Mickens – Cincinnati – Early 4th-Early 5th
16. Asher Allen – Georgia – Early 4th-Mid 5th
17. Jerraud Powers – Auburn – Mid 4th-Mid 5th
18. Chris Owens – San Jose State – Mid 4th-Mid 5th
19. DeAngelo Smith – Cincinnati – Late 4th-Late 5th (FS)
20. Brandon Underwood – Cincinnati – Late 4th-Early 6th (FS)
21. Captain Munnerlyn – South Carolina – Late 4th-Early 6th
22. Mark Parson – Ohio University – Mid 5th-Early 7th
23. Joe Burnett – Central Florida – Mid 5th-Early 7th
24. Ryan Palmer – Texas – Late 5th-Mid 7th
25. Keenan Lewis – Oregon State – Late 5th-Mid 7th
26. Donald Washington – Ohio State – Late 5th-Mid 7th
27. Domonique Johnson – Jackson State – Late 5th-Mid 7th
28. Brandon Hughes – Oregon State – Early 6th-Late 7th
29. LaDarius Webb – Nicholls State – Mid 6th-UDFA
30. Tony Carter – Florida State – 7th Round-UDFA

Safeties
1. Rashad Johnson – Alabama – Early-Mid 2nd Round
2. Louis Delmas – Western Michigan – Second Round
3. William Moore – Missouri – Second Round
4. Chip Vaughn – Wake Forest – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd
5. Patrick Chung – Oregon – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
6. Michael Hamlin – Clemson – Third Round
7. David Bruton – Notre Dame – Early 3rd-Early 4th
8. Curtis Taylor – LSU – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th
9. Darcel McBath – Texas Tech – Late 3rd-Late 4th
10. Emmanuel Cook – South Carolina – Late 3rd-Late 4th
11. Stephen Hodge – TCU – Mid 4th-Mid 5th (OLB)
12. Courtney Greene – Rutgers – Late 4th-Early 6th
13. C.J. Spillman – Marshall – Early 5th-Mid 6th
14. Trimane Goddard – North Carolina – Mid 5th-Early 7th
15. Derek Pegues – Mississippi State – Early 6th-UDFA

Kickers/Punters
1. Graham Gano – Florida State – Late 5th-UDFA (K/P)
2. Kevin Huber – Cincinnati – Late 5th-UDFA (P)
3. David Buehler – USC – Mid 6th-UDFA (K)
4. Thomas Morstead – SMU – Mid 6th-UDFA (P)
5. Ryan Succop – South Carolina – UDFA (K)


Big Board – Top 150

1. Aaron Curry – OLB – Wake Forest
2. Jason Smith – OT – Baylor
3. Matthew Stafford – QB – Georgia
4. B.J. Raji – DT – Boston College
5. Jeremy Maclin – WR/RS – Missouri
6. Eugene Monroe – OT – Virginia
7. Malcolm Jenkins – CB/FS – Ohio State
8. Michael Crabtree – WR – Texas Tech
9. Everette Brown – DE/OLB – Florida State
10. Andre Smith – OT/OG – Alabama
11. Mark Sanchez – QB – USC
12. Brian Orakpo – DE/OLB – Texas
13. Michael Oher – OT – Mississippi
14. Chris “Beanie” Wells – RB – Ohio State
15. Brian Cushing – OLB – USC
16. Aaron Maybin – DE/OLB – Penn State
17. Darrius Heyward-Bey – WR/KR – Maryland
18. Brandon Pettigrew – TE – Oklahoma State
19. Rey Maualuga – ILB – USC
20. Peria Jerry – DT – Mississippi
21. Percy Harvin – WR/RS – Florida
22. Knowshon Moreno – RB - Georgia
23. Vontae Davis – CB - Illinois
24. Clay Matthews – OLB – USC
25. Larry English – DE – Northern Illinois
26. Tyson Jackson – DE/DT – LSU
27. Alex Mack – C - California
28. James Laurinaitis – MLB/WLB – Ohio State
29. Alphonso Smith – CB – Wake Forest
30. Hakeem Nicks – WR – North Carolina
31. Sean Smith – CB/FS – Utah
32. William Beatty – OT - Connecticut
33. Josh Freeman – QB – Kansas State
34. Donald Brown – RB – Connecticut
35. Kenny Britt – WR – Rutgers
36. Robert Ayers – DE – Tennessee
37. Duke Robinson – OG – Oklahoma
38. Eben Britton – OT – Arizona
39. Michael Johnson – DE – Georgia Tech
40. LeSean McCoy – RB – Pittsburgh
41. Rashad Johnson – S – Alabama
42. Marcus Freeman – OLB – Ohio State
43. Clint Sintim – OLB – Virginia
44. Eric Wood – C - Louisville
45. Louis Delmas – S – Western Michigan
46. Jarron Gilbert – DE/DT – San Jose State
47. William Moore – S – Missouri
48. Coye Francies – CB – San Jose State
49. Shawn Nelson – TE – Southern Mississippi
50. D.J. Moore – CB – Vanderbilt
51. Jared Cook – TE – South Carolina
52. Max Unger – C – Oregon
53. Brian Robiskie – WR – Ohio State
54. Connor Barwin – OLB/DE – Cincinnati
55. Darius Butler – CB – Connecticut
56. Evander “Ziggy” Hood – DT – Missouri
57. Ron Brace – DT/NT – Boston College
58. Phil Loadholt – OT - Oklahoma
59. Chip Vaughn – S – Wake Forest
60. Pat White – WR/QB - West Virginia
61. Lawrence Sidbury – DE/OLB – Richmond
62. Patrick Chung – S - Oregon
63. Gerald McRath – OLB – Southern Mississippi
64. Sen’Derrick Marks – DT – Auburn
65. Chase Coffman – TE – Missouri
66. Jairus Byrd – CB – Oregon
67. Andre Brown – RB – North Carolina State
68. Andy Levitre – OG/C – Oregon State
69. Shonn Greene – RB - Iowa
70. Fili Moala – DT – USC
71. Jamon Meredith – OT – South Carolina
72. Juaquin Iglesias – WR – Oklahoma
73. Paul Kruger – DE – Utah
74. Tyrone McKenzie – OLB – South Florida
75. Mike Goodson – RB – Texas A&M
76. Michael Hamlin – S – Clemson
77. James Davis – RB – Clemson
78. Cody Brown – OLB – Connecticut
79. Troy Kropog – OT – Tulane
80. Ramses Barden – WR – Cal-Poly
81. Alex Magee – DT – Purdue
82. Cornelius Ingram – TE – Florida
83. David Bruton – S – Notre Dame
84. Antoine Caldwell – C – Alabama
85. Sherrod Martin – CB/FS – Troy
86. James Casey – TE/H-B – Rice
87. Brandon Tate – WR – North Carolina
88. Devin Moore – RB – Wyoming
89. Darry Beckwith – MLB - LSU
90. Cary Harris – CB – USC
91. Curtis Taylor – S – LSU
92. Louis Murphy – WR – Florida
93. Chris Baker – DT – Hampton
94. Javon Ringer – RB – Michigan State
95. Mohamed Massaquoi – WR – Georgia
96. Bruce Johnson – CB - Miami
97. Darcel McBath – S – Texas Tech
98. Emmanuel Cook – S – South Carolina
99. Rhett Bomar – QB – Sam Houston State
100. Trevor Canfield – OG - Cincinnati
101. Rashad Jennings – RB – Liberty
102. Travis Beckum – TE/H-B – Wisconsin
103. Gerald Cadogan – OT – Penn State
104. Jasper Brinkley – ILB – South Carolina
105. Jason Watkins – OT - Florida
106. Bradley Fletcher – CB – Iowa
107. Victor “Macho” Harris – CB/FS – Virginia Tech
108. Jonathan Luigs – C – Arkansas
109. Kevin Barnes – CB – Maryland
110. Kyle Moore – DE – USC
111. Terrance Taylor – DT/NT – Michigan
112. Jarret Dillard – WR – Rice
113. Mike Mickens – CB – Cincinnati
114. Kory Sheets – RB – Purdue
115. Asher Allen – CB – Georgia
116. Demetrius Byrd – WR – LSU
117. Kraig Urbik – OG – Wisconsin
118. Kenny McKinley – WR – South Carolina
119. Cornelius Lewis – OT/OG – Tennessee State
120. Cedric Peerman – RB – Virginia
121. Derrick Williams – RS/WR – Penn State
122. John Phillips – TE – Virginia
123. Kaluka Maiava – OLB - USC
124. Nate Davis – QB – Ball State
125. Brooks Foster – WR – North Carolina
126. Stephen Hodge – S/OLB – TCU
127. T.J. Lang – OT/OG – Eastern Michigan
128. Jerraud Powers – CB – Auburn
129. Quinn Johnson – FB – LSU
130. Dannell Ellerbe – MLB - Georgia
131. Victor Butler – OLB/DE – Oregon State
132. Mike Thomas – WR - Arizona
133. Chris Owens – CB – San Jose State
134. David Veikune – DE – Hawaii
135. Jonathan Casillas – OLB - Wisconsin
136. Tony Fiammetta – FB – Syracuse
137. Sammie Stroughter – WR – Oregon State
138. Zack Follett – OLB - California
139. Mitch King – DT/ILB – Iowa
140. DeAngelo Smith – CB/FS – Cincinnati
141. Glen Coffee – RB – Alabama
142. A.Q. Shipley – C – Penn State
143. Richard Quinn – TE – North Carolina
144. Tim Jamison – DE - Michigan
145. Courtney Greene – S – Rutgers
146. Roger Allen – OG – Missouri Western State
147. Roy Miller – DT - Texas
148. Brandon Underwood – CB/FS – Cincinnati
149. Sammie Lee Hill – DT/NT - Stillman
150. Captain Munnerlyn – CB – South Carolina
captain irrelevant

Brown Leader
02-25-2009, 09:21 PM
Why do you question his durability? In 2006 he sustained a serious knee injury and did not play. That injury apparently has healed 100% and not affected him as a player as he went on to play all of 2007 and 2008 at a very high, fast, and most importantly, healthy level. He sustained a very minor injury at the Combine this year which shelved him for some drills and tests, but it has recently been confirmed that he will not even need an MRI. All signs point to Maclin being healthy and ready to do a complete workout at his Pro Day.

His build is not frail either. At 6'0 200 (1/8 and 2 lbs off his Combine height-weight) he is well built and is used to being hit by NFL athletes (Oklahoma/Texas/Illinois, etc.) His legs are a bit skinny, but he is a WR. His build compares to Chad Johnson and does not have much injury history compared to many others.

It's nothing verifiable-it's just games I've seen him in he's taking good shots-he gets up but at the NFL level that will take it's toll. To me he looks like Berrian with greater COD. That's pretty good but some other prospects have similar high upside-I'm not sure he's that much over them if at all.

ThePudge
02-25-2009, 09:39 PM
Unger a 2nd 3rd rd pick? He had a solid combine. Should be late 1st early 2nd.

Chung is a solid early 2nd rd pick and he isnt the 5th safety. Some sites thinks he may slide into the first.

Could Unger go in the Late 1st? Sure, but to who? Baltimore has several needs in addition to Center, so 26 is unlikely. The next two teams we'd be looking at are Arizona and Pittsburgh. Both, however, run power-running offenses typically employing thicker, run-blocking O-Linemen. Unger is certainly talented enough to play there, but he is not the best fit compared to Alex Mack and Eric Wood. Unger could play in these offenses, but is probably going to be at his best in a Zone Blocking Scheme as a Center or Left Guard.

Cincinnati and Buffalo also seem to be sniffing around Mack and Wood a bit more than Unger due to similar systematic fit. I don't think Unger will go in the 1st, though I won't put it past him. The stock I gave him is Early 2nd-Early 3rd because I think that's where he'll end up. A number of players fall on draft day and I think it's possible for Unger to do the same. I have nothing against him though and really like him as a prospect. I understand he appears a bit low on my Big Board as well. Understand it is still relatively early and the draft is not tomorrow, there is room and time to move up or down.

As for Chung, I've never been a huge fan and those who know my rankings know that the ranking I gave him is fairly high compared to what I used to say. It's more of just a feeling or hunch than anything. I feel like he helped himself a decent amount at the Combine and is on the rise at this point. Keep in mind, it is early and there is still time for Chung to move up. I think though, that he will end up in the Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd Round range. I have watched the DB drills a bit more in-depth and Chung is a player I've looked at a lot. Still, I think the talk of the first is a bit premature at this point.

Remember, every NFL team has different rankings. I respect the opinions, love the feedback, just remember that everyone will have different views and opinions. That being said, I prefer questions to blunt statements such as "____________" should be higher. I took a good amount of time on these rankings internally, and a good amount of time writing up the rankings, the least you could do is ask a question on why I have a player where rather than assume your opinion is the opinion of every NFL team.

phlysac
02-25-2009, 09:41 PM
Would you not include Gartrell Johnson in your Top-20 RB's? If not, where would you project him being drafted?

ThePudge
02-25-2009, 10:04 PM
Would you not include Gartrell Johnson in your Top-20 RB's? If not, where would you project him being drafted?

I like Gartrell. I watched that famed New Mexico Bowl that he absolutely tore up. Still, I feel he's more a college player than pro. I think he could find a role at the next level, but he's not a starting running back unless he's playing in the Canadian Football League. He runs very hard and has surprising acceleration, really hits the hole hard for a bigger guy, still he's not an NFL athlete and I'm not sure he adds much out of the backfield as a receiver. He reminds me of former Pittsburgh Steelers RB/FB Verron Haynes a bit. Probably won't be drafted, but I would like to give the guy a chance as an UDFA (which I guarantee he will get.)

PalmerToCJ
02-25-2009, 10:41 PM
Well done Pudge, glad you're a Bengals fan.

Say Monroe/Smith/Curry are all off the board at 6, what route do you prefer we go and which route do you think the team will go? What is your Bengals big board for pick 6?

In the second, do you see it as basically Wood/Mack?

How do you see Brinkley and Beckwith as fits for us?

I could go on and on....

Twinkle Toes
02-25-2009, 10:53 PM
Great list and good explanations about the top WRs. However one small school wide-out you overlooked who 'has game' is WR Johnny Knox from Abilene Christian. Not only did he have great speed at the combine, he has great hands, sick adjustment to the ball and runs solid routes for a small school prospect. I'm thinking a 4th/5th round 'sleeper' pick. To see some video on him, go to draftguys.com. You'll be impressed.

LonghornsLegend
02-25-2009, 10:54 PM
Really don't like how low you have Rashad Jennings, that was the major problem I had, especially behind guys like James Davis who Jennings out performed...Jennings is a fast riser and a great talent and I'm pretty sure he's going to go before the 4th round.

LonghornsLegend
02-25-2009, 10:56 PM
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5. Hakeem Nicks - 6'0 3/4 - 212 - 4.50

- I like Hakeem Nicks a lot, he has that Dwayne Bowe feel for, at the worst we'd be looking at a faster-Marty Booker type. He's not going to offer you anything other than a WR, but he offers you #1 potential at that Wide Receiver spot. Nicks is just a solid all-around football player. He's not overly big, he's not overly fast; however, he's big enough and uses his size well, he's fast enough and does not have problems separating.

The little things in his game are where you want to see them. He's physical, he runs good routes, he has big, soft hands, and is a threat after the catch with his quickness, speed, and physicality. No part of his game really blows you away exactly, but Nicks is a football player. He works for tough yardage and runs well after the catch. He shows effort in the blocking game and seems to have solid character and a good head on his shoulders. He's not afraid to go over the middle and despite not having top-end vertical speed, had 18.0 ypc in the ACC. Just a very good football player and a player I like a lot.



The more I watch Nicks the more he reminds me of Michael Irvin(who ran a 4.55), Nicks is going to be very good and I'm very confident in his ability to be a #1 WR as well.

ThePudge
02-26-2009, 12:10 AM
Well done Pudge, glad you're a Bengals fan.

Say Monroe/Smith/Curry are all off the board at 6, what route do you prefer we go and which route do you think the team will go? What is your Bengals big board for pick 6?

In the second, do you see it as basically Wood/Mack?

How do you see Brinkley and Beckwith as fits for us?

I could go on and on....

Great news for you. I will be typing up my first Bengals 2009 Draft Database this weekend. I'm fairly sure I wrote up one for each of the past two, maybe three drafts and you could find record of it if you went back and checked. It is quite bulky and could easily be a much larger post than this one. It's going to have a complete Bengals Mock Draft, A pick by pick breakdown of some options, a needs chart, and in-depth analysis of each position of need.

I try to keep it not overly opinionated, but I do throw in a lot of my own rankings and opinions on the best possibilities & fits. I take my analysis and apply it to what I see and hear from the organizations as far as player/position interest. I, by no means, consider it to be a Bengals draft Bible. Still, print it out, it'll make some interesting bathroom reading. As with everything I do, it's open to discussion/disagreement/questions. Just wanted to let you know, something for all the Bengals fans to enjoy :)

If Monroe/Smith/Curry are all off the board I am open to a number of options. The first of which being B.J. Raji. Doesn't fit our most pressing need exactly, but Zimmer says the thing he's looking most for is pass-rushing. Raji is a player that could command double-teams in the middle, collapse the pocket, and hopefully free up the outside rush for Geathers/Odom/Rucker, etc.

Andre Smith may have lost a lot of ground and could be expected reasonably to drop in the draft. One thing he hasn't lost is that immense talent. At 6'4 332 with 35"+ arms, he certainly has the size to play Left Tackle and if you go back on film and watch the guy play, he can simply dominate games. He was by far the nation's top lineman this past season. A dominant run-blocker, absolute mauler that has the agility to get to the second level an put defenders on the ground. John Parker Wilson's blind-side stayed clean virtually all season with Smith there. He uses his long arms and strength very well as a pass-blocker. His feet and agility are good, but not elite, you get the feeling he's good enough in that department to be an NFL Left Tackle, but it's the use of his arms and natural strength that best allow him to shut down athletic speed rushers. With that being said, he is still a very talented option at 6. I would not be opposed to drafting him for the Right Side as he could quickly develop into a Pro Bowl player at RT.

Michael Crabtree, Michael Oher, Everette Brown, Brian Orakpo, and even Jeremy Maclin could be considered though if not one of the five players we've listed above.

As for your next question. I am very open-minded about the second round. If we do not sign a veteran Center like Jeff Saturday, Jason Brown, or Matt Birk then in my opinion, it definitely SHOULD be a Center such as Eric Wood or Alex Mack, two excellent fits and very solid values. Still, the team may feel confident we can have a starting caliber Center in the 3rd (Antoine Caldwell/maybe Andy Levitre) or the 4th-5th (A.Q. Shipley).

That leaves us with the option to take the BPA in the 2nd. If Brandon Pettigrew is there, he'd be tough to resist. If James Laurinaitis is there, he may also be tough to resist. Rushing the passer is a team offseason priority, so don't count out a Defensive End such as Robert Ayers or Michael Johnson. Rashad Johnson, Hakeem Nicks, LeSean McCoy, or Donald Brown would all be interesting picks at 38.

I think Beckwith is the superior fit in Cincinnati, but I feel he'd be a bit of a reach in the Early 3rd. No part of Beckwith really stands out as he's not overly big, fast, or physical. Still he is a solid all-around Linebacker, has good instincts, and is a leader on and off the field. I do like Brinkley, but I feel he's more of a thumper ILB in a 3-4 system.

haha, Never fear the entire Database will contain all kinds of stuff like this. More in-depth, more information, and much more overall analysis and views. I am very open-minded, or I have at least learned to be. That being said, it should be a lot of work. Should be up by Friday/Saturday

BUSTKUNTLAWL
02-26-2009, 12:17 AM
Neither William Moore or Chung have a shot at going in the 2nd round.

LonghornsLegend
02-26-2009, 12:18 AM
Neither William Moore or Chung have a shot at going in the 2nd round.

Chung definately does at this point, Moore probably not.

BUSTKUNTLAWL
02-26-2009, 12:20 AM
Chung definately does at this point, Moore probably not.

I'd be shocked if Chung is drafted with a top 100 pick.

He's overrated by some due to the awful DB class.

His value is probably as a 5th rounder.

LonghornsLegend
02-26-2009, 12:31 AM
I'd be shocked if Chung is drafted with a top 100 pick.

He's overrated by some due to the awful DB class.

His value is probably as a 5th rounder.



1. Patrick Chung, Oregon (SS) 5-11, 208
Pre-Combine Position Rank: 2
Post-Combine Skinny: Great workout. GREAT workout. The 4.47 was a major boost to put him among the top defensive backs overall and might have been enough to solidify a spot in the second round. The 25 reps on the bench didn't hurt, either.
Positives: Can do everything well at either safety position. Could play corner in a pinch … The type defensive back to build a secondary around … Tremendous tackler. Doesn’t miss.
Negatives: Might struggle a wee bit in deep coverage. He lacks elite speed … Not huge for a strong safety … Physical play worked in college, but it might not be enough, because of his size, in the NFL.
http://cfn.scout.com/2/841039.html


Granted this is just one perspective but also consider he was one of the guys who had a great senior bowl week as noted by many, your reaching with a 5th round pick, he'll be long gone before then.


William Moore/S/Missouri: The Missouri safety deserves a lot of credit as he learned from his mistakes at the Senior Bowl by displaying a lot of improvement at the combine. Moore's 40 time was solid at 4.5 seconds after weighing in at 221 pounds. Moore's performance in defensive back drills is what made most scouts take notice. He showed the backpedal, footwork and hip movement which was so sorely lacking a month ago in Mobile. Moore really looked like a different type of ball player on the field Tuesday and likely salvaged a top-50 calling of his name in April.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/02/24/tuesday.risers.sliders/


Personally I see Moore more of a 3rd round guy but he's certainly got a better shot at going late in the 2nd then you make it out to be, the people who are evaluating these players disagree.

BUSTKUNTLAWL
02-26-2009, 12:35 AM
I don't see Chung going in the first 3 rounds and I think his value is a 5th rounder in any other draft. He may get drafted in the late 3rd / 4th , but it wouldn't be good value. I think you're going to be surprised by where he is selected on the second day of the draft.

Your first source has Moore as the 8th best safety in this awful safety class.

LonghornsLegend
02-26-2009, 12:57 AM
I don't see Chung going in the first 3 rounds and I think his value is a 5th rounder in any other draft. He may get drafted in the late 3rd / 4th , but it wouldn't be good value. I think you're going to be surprised by where he is selected on the second day of the draft.

Your first source has Moore as the 8th best safety in this awful safety class.


Well sadly this isn't any other draft, and while both guys may of been drafted alot lower in a different draft they won't be, so they will be drafted accordingly in this draft. I don't really like either guy that much, but I do know that due to lack of safety depth these guys have a decent shot at going first day.

ThePudge
02-26-2009, 01:07 AM
Really don't like how low you have Rashad Jennings, that was the major problem I had, especially behind guys like James Davis who Jennings out performed...Jennings is a fast riser and a great talent and I'm pretty sure he's going to go before the 4th round.

I like Jennings and I think he may go a bit higher than he deserves to. If he has a good Pro Day, I won't rule out the late 2nd Round as his ceiling. His size/speed combination is almost untouched in this draft class. He is very athletic, tests well, has the talent, and really showed up this past year for Liberty.

Still, I was very disappointed with Jennings' week at the Senior Bowl. His draft stock, the hype around him, was starting to build and peak right around that time. There was talk of Jennings in the Early-Mid 2nd. I expected perhaps the next coming of, say, Matt Forte. The week of practice came and Jennings made no noise.

By most Senior Bowl accounts, Jennings had a very average. He wasn't bad, he wasn't good. By having an average performance in the week of practice and game, by not standing out, he disappointed me and a lot of people. The Senior Bowl practices really threw a bucket of water on to his hot stock. As I said, it's not that he was bad at all, he was average, but most expected something above average.

Still, you are right to say I more or less discounted an impressive Combine week from Jennings. personally, I'm a bit more wary then I originally was. I was not surprised by his performance in Indy, as that is what the guy was advertised to be. No doubt scouts saw what they wanted/needed to see this past weekend and could be higher on Jennings than I am. Personally, I feel he is a bit more of a size/speed combo than a true football player that plays up to his measurables. He has undeniable upside though, and I could see a team taking a chance as early as the Late 2nd. Right now though, I wouldn't touch him until the Mid 3rd at the earliest despite his physical ability and upside. I understand fully where you are coming from though and thanks for the feedback.

I will note this: James Davis, in particular, will be ranked below Jennings in my next rankings. When I wrote up the rankings, I initially forgot Davis. When I realized, I went back and inserted him higher than I even think he deserves to be. He should be 12th on my rankings behind Jennings and Kory Sheets.

ThePudge
02-26-2009, 01:25 AM
Great list and good explanations about the top WRs. However one small school wide-out you overlooked who 'has game' is WR Johnny Knox from Abilene Christian. Not only did he have great speed at the combine, he has great hands, sick adjustment to the ball and runs solid routes for a small school prospect. I'm thinking a 4th/5th round 'sleeper' pick. To see some video on him, go to draftguys.com. You'll be impressed.

Knox is a guy I genuinely forgot about or overlooked while creating my rankings. Haha, forgive me on that one, by about halfway through these rankings I was pretty worn. But on to Knox...

He has deep speed and is actually a very good receiver. He's not the biggest guy, the most physical, he didn't play against too much high competition, nor is he the most polished route-runner (he is just a bit raw there, not a sloppy route runner by any means), but he has the hands, the speed, character, plenty of upside, and some potential on special teams. I'm not quite as high on him as you are but I would start looking for Knox in the Mid 5th and think he will be off the board by the Early 7th.

LonghornsLegend
02-26-2009, 02:45 AM
I like Jennings and I think he may go a bit higher than he deserves to. If he has a good Pro Day, I won't rule out the late 2nd Round as his ceiling. His size/speed combination is almost untouched in this draft class. He is very athletic, tests well, has the talent, and really showed up this past year for Liberty.

Still, I was very disappointed with Jennings' week at the Senior Bowl. His draft stock, the hype around him, was starting to build and peak right around that time. There was talk of Jennings in the Early-Mid 2nd. I expected perhaps the next coming of, say, Matt Forte. The week of practice came and Jennings made no noise.

By most Senior Bowl accounts, Jennings had a very average. He wasn't bad, he wasn't good. By having an average performance in the week of practice and game, by not standing out, he disappointed me and a lot of people. The Senior Bowl practices really threw a bucket of water on to his hot stock. As I said, it's not that he was bad at all, he was average, but most expected something above average.






Well I guess we are mistaken on his Senior Bowl week, from everything I read and saw he took full advantage of showing his talents:


Rashad Jennings/RB/Liberty: The small school product took full advantage of the opportunity to showcase his talents. He displayed speed and power carrying the ball, strength and tenacity as a blocker and sure hands catching passes. Jennings' performance makes him the top senior running back in April's draft.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/super-bowl/01/23/seniorbowl5/


Rashad Jennings/RB/Liberty: Jennings is the top small school player in Mobile this week and proved as much in Day 1. His 234-pound frame looked impressive this morning during weigh-ins, then Jennings looked athletic and fast on the field at practice. He has a burst through the hole and looks frighteningly powerful running in the open field. Jennings also caught the ball well and stood out in blocking drills.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/01/19/senior.bowl.day1/index.html


Most accounts seemed to be more then just "average" to me, he seemed to improve his stock since then, the 29 reps on the bench press, the unofficial 40 of 4.49, I really think he can be a poor mans Steven Jackson...I see the problem with Davis now, I have cooled on him alot since he declared.

ThePudge
02-26-2009, 12:37 PM
" • Liberty RB Rashad Jennings didn't look like he had great speed or quickness and generally didn't stand out. That kind of surprised me. " - Scott Wright, Tuesday

"• Liberty RB Rashad Jennings failed to stand out for the most part, although he did show nimble feet to avoid trash on a run up the middle." - Scott Wright, Wednesday

- I am not saying that either Scott's or SI's is unanimous fact, as there will be mixed feelings from different sources. Still, to hear he didn't stand out from other backs he is graded fairly closely to (Davis, Andre Brown) disappointed me. I would agree though that right now I am probably underrating him a bit, and he may seem a bit of a bump up in my next rankings though probably nothing absolutely drastic.

- I also was disappointed that Jennings didn't claim the starting position in that game over James Davis. Not a big deal, I know, it's like starting at the Pro Bowl, everyone will play anyway. Still, I expected him to stand out and be the best back in Mobile, so with all that taken into consideration, I was a bit disappointed.

ThePudge
02-26-2009, 10:20 PM
The more I watch Nicks the more he reminds me of Michael Irvin(who ran a 4.55), Nicks is going to be very good and I'm very confident in his ability to be a #1 WR as well.

I agree with you there. It is tough to explain Nicks, you have to really just watch the guy play. It's tough to break him down and sell him because he's simply an all-around solid player with no real stand-out attributes. His size-speed ratio may not indicate it, but he's a big play receiver with big-time production and NFL potential.

I feel safer with Nicks than I do Heyward-Bey or Harvin (my #3 and #4 WR's respectively.) Hakeem just has that X-Factor to me and I love the desire and effort the kid plays with. He may not stand out at the Combine, but he certainly stands out on tape. Youtube highlight videos of Nicks are terrific, but don't show how many little things he does well. A definite possibility to be a Late Round 1-Early Round 2 pleasant surprise for someone. As a Bengals fan, I'd even take Nicks were he there.

I_C_DeadPeople
02-26-2009, 11:03 PM
Pudge, you are a Bungle fan like me? Given your knowledge of college players the Bengals drafts must drive you nuts...

ThePudge
02-26-2009, 11:10 PM
Pudge, you are a Bungle fan like me? Given your knowledge of college players the Bengals drafts must drive you nuts...

Absolutely. They drive me nuts because as a Bengals fan and wannabe talent evaluator, I want to be the guy to make the pick and decisions for Cincinnati. Still, the draft is my Christmas. I love the entire process, I love sitting in Radio City Music Hall for eight hours at a time two days in a row, I'll find positives in every Bengals pick.