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KILLERSANTA
03-05-2007, 07:09 PM
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Paul
03-05-2007, 07:13 PM
Who's out there right now? Or do we give it to Fabini or Mcquistian? Draft?

Burns336
03-05-2007, 07:15 PM
who got columbo?

jdnoyes
03-05-2007, 07:16 PM
At least tell us who signed him

bearsfan_51
03-05-2007, 07:17 PM
Jets


I eat baby monkeys.

JoeMontainya
03-05-2007, 07:23 PM
Jets are going to have a really good OL in the next year or so.

D-Unit
03-05-2007, 07:25 PM
PHeeeew... Almost thought we were gonna resign him for a second there.

Number-94
03-05-2007, 07:32 PM
Mleh it could be worse, figured a big guy like him would be better in his run blocking. Maybe that's just me.

TNewFan41
03-05-2007, 07:33 PM
Oh well, it is off to the draft now.

Im_a_Romosexual
03-05-2007, 09:24 PM
damn

gorilla

LSUALUM99
03-05-2007, 09:26 PM
As I said before. Big deal. He's had one healthy season. It would have been nice to keep him, but it's not like we're losing Gene Upshaw or Anthony Munoz.

JJJ888
03-05-2007, 10:02 PM
Anyone have a link yet on this signing?

Macarthur
03-05-2007, 10:14 PM
ugoh in the 2nd!

yno88
03-06-2007, 12:18 AM
Alright then.

LT Adams
LG Kosier
C Gurode
RG Justin Blalock
RT Davis

I really like Davis better inside. With the loss of Colombo we're in need of a tackle, or even a young player who could become a tackle if Flo breaks down. I don't think Davis is a LT.

D-Unit
03-06-2007, 12:28 AM
Nothing is certain yet, so let's caution the disappointment before it's really happened.

...not that I'm disappointed or anything. Just silly listening to it.

BX
03-06-2007, 12:34 AM
You think we'll receive a compensatory pick for him?

thule
03-06-2007, 12:54 AM
The Steelers also made tender offers to restricted free agent offensive tackle Max Starks.

Starks received a $1.83 million offer for 2007, which means the Steelers get a first-round draft pick if they decline to match any offer he gets from another team


He is the best RT out in FA right now...a first is mighty hefty.

I really think we are going to put Davis at RT. I don't like that but it is what is gonna happen.

As far as the draft goes...Brown/Sears/Ugoh are probably the top candidates but won't be around in the second. Which is why I think a first for Starks isn't so unheard of.

If we wait until later...my personal favorite option is drafting James Marten. He had a excellent senior bowl..showed great fire. His footwork is decent...but not what you look for in a LT..so he will be stuck on the right side in the NFL...He has passion and fire...and good size...and a decent amount of upside. Should be able to land him in 3rd round.

We could go OG first round..but doesn't make a lot of sense. Blalock looks like the most logical pick at 22. Grubbs would probably be #2 option here...still both are reaches.

Round 2 looks promising for OG...Beekman...Grubbs...Blalock...Yanda but I really think 2 of those 4 are off the board...and Yanda scares me starting the first year.

So when it comes down to it...I'm really scared about how this situation is going to go. We need to get in the early 30's range to land our guy imo.

DallCowby1
03-06-2007, 01:07 AM
I don't see anything on various websites about Columbo's agreeing to terms with the Jets.

DallCowby1
03-06-2007, 06:43 AM
This report of Columbo agreeing to terms with the Jets is B.S.!

The N.Y. papers would have been all over this agreement. They have nothing this morning on Columbo becoming a Jet.

The only Cowboy player the Jets are close to signing is DE, Kenyon Coleman.

No mention of the Jets being in negotiations with Columbo.

nrcirc
03-06-2007, 09:15 AM
The only news on the website I found is "Tim MacMahon, of the Dallas Morning News, reports the Dallas Cowboys are confident they will be able to re-sign free agent OL Marc Colombo (Cowboys)."

I believe we will get him back. I agree with LSU that even we lost him it is not big deal.

Macarthur
03-06-2007, 09:26 AM
Good.

I've looked at a couple of Jets' boards and have seen very little talk of Columbo.

bigmac076
03-06-2007, 09:47 AM
Where are people getting these reports?

bigbluedefense
03-06-2007, 09:53 AM
Please put Leonard Davis at RT. Strahan will get to pad his stats twice a year with him at Tackle. Hell, Davis isn't even a good Guard. He has to prove me wrong for me to believe it. Think about it, Arizona desperately needs oline, and Whistenhunt and Grimm are the best in the business with big olinemen, if he was salvageable don't you think they would try to keep him and move him inside?

I think signing him was a big mistake. His good days were when he was 330, he's a 360 pound balloon now. And he has a horrible work ethic. The reason why he didn't even want to give the Giants a shot (thank God) was because he knew his work ethic would clash with Coughlin. Basically, he's fat and lazy, and doesn't want to be forced to work. That shouldve been a red flag right away.

I think Blaylock might be a round 1 need now. He can play OG, and if Davis sucks at RT, he can move there.

LSUALUM99
03-06-2007, 10:39 AM
BBD -

Reports are pretty widely accepted that the NYG were prepared to offer as much money as the Dallas Cowboys. So tell me, if teams are offering money like this, doesn't that mean they see GAME FILM that indicates the player can play?

No team signs a guy without researching him. I get so tired of people 'grading out' players when they really have no idea.

I'm not suggesting he's a great signing or that he's a terrible signing. The bottom line is that no one ON ANY NFL BOARD that is not on an NFL staff has as much information as someone on the staff has.

Please BBD, don't turn into one of those guys. For the most part you're one of the better posters on the board and I enjoy our conversations. I do not want you to turn into one of those 'I know more than NFL coaches know' guys.

bigbluedefense
03-06-2007, 10:52 AM
BBD -

Reports are pretty widely accepted that the NYG were prepared to offer as much money as the Dallas Cowboys. So tell me, if teams are offering money like this, doesn't that mean they see GAME FILM that indicates the player can play?

No team signs a guy without researching him. I get so tired of people 'grading out' players when they really have no idea.

I'm not suggesting he's a great signing or that he's a terrible signing. The bottom line is that no one ON ANY NFL BOARD that is not on an NFL staff has as much information as someone on the staff has.

Please BBD, don't turn into one of those guys. For the most part you're one of the better posters on the board and I enjoy our conversations. I do not want you to turn into one of those 'I know more than NFL coaches know' guys.

Good call, I'll be more careful next time I voice my opinion without giving some extra thought to it.

Personally, Im just not a fan of Davis's. I was angry when I heard that the Giants were interested. Also, I know we know little compared to NFL players and coaches, but that doesn't mean theyre right all the time either. I remember alot of teams going after Lavar Arrington last year and that didn't work out well at all.

The problem I have with FA signings as a whole is, we look at old tape of them and think they can become that guy again with a change of scenery. Unfortunately, thats usually not the case. You are what you are, and players change over time. Davis shows me nothing as of late to lead me to believe that he can become the guy he used to be. He didnt even make a concentrated effort to lose weight.

I think its a good idea to bring him in, only if they still address oline sometime in the draft. They need an insurance policy just in case it doesn't work out. If they put all their eggs in this one basket, thats not a good move. If they get him, plus get an olinemen in the draft to spell him just in case and provide depth, then I like the idea. Thats why I like Blaylock in Dallas right now.

That was the mistake we made with Lavar. We thought that because we got him, that we didn't need to address LB. That was a mistake. Wilkinson wasn't exactly an insurance policy. He was a MIKE that we tried to convert to OLB so that takes time for the conversion. So we approached the situation with a flawed battle plan. Dallas shouldn't make the same mistake. Especially with the depth at OG this year.

TNewFan41
03-06-2007, 01:28 PM
So Colombo is still on the market.

bigmac076
03-06-2007, 05:48 PM
So Colombo is still on the market.
yes and it seems like they put him on the back burner to get Davis signed, plus they let Marc test the waters a little bit. He should be re-signed soon.

DMWSackMachine
03-06-2007, 06:04 PM
I think it's important that we sign Marc to some sort of short, modest extension. If he can give two more years like this one, maintain his health, and maybe even improve somewhat, then he should be a 5m a year type player in a few years, and get the kind of dough he's looking for.

Personally, I think the long term future at LT is McQuistan. I have loved what I've seen out of him to this point, and Parcells was basically blowing his entire load all over at the mere mention of him last year. I think we give him one more year to develop, then see if Flo can move over to the right side after this season by resigning him, or even franchising him for a year.

Colombo is the key to making that happen, though, because you need someone for this season, and you sure as hell don't want Davis there. You don't want to invest a draft pick, because that would complicate things and waste your resources. Colombo is important to add, imo, and he should be willing to take less than market value on a short term contract as a sign of loyalty to a team that gave him a chance when no one else would.

TNewFan41
03-06-2007, 06:10 PM
2 year, 7 million is whats on the table according to Nick Eatmen. His fat a** better take it.

LSUALUM99
03-06-2007, 07:00 PM
If I were Columbo's agent I would say to sign a 2 year offer with a voidable second year if he plays more than 50% of the snaps.

D-Unit
03-06-2007, 07:07 PM
2 year, 7 million is whats on the table according to Nick Eatmen. His fat a** better take it.
If that's true, consider our Free Agent offseason, impecable.

TNewFan41
03-06-2007, 07:57 PM
I agree 100%.

Go Cowboys
03-07-2007, 12:04 PM
If I were Columbo's agent I would say to sign a 2 year offer with a voidable second year if he plays more than 50% of the snaps.
I would jump on that if I were him

shane_man
03-08-2007, 07:26 AM
If that's true, consider our Free Agent offseason, impecable.

How much did we pay for Leonard Davis again???

Decent... ok. But far from impeccable.

LSUALUM99
03-08-2007, 07:44 AM
How much did we pay for Leonard Davis again???

Decent... ok. But far from impeccable.


The fact is that Davis serves a need. If you don't pay for FA's or you aren't willing to pay the market rate (which is 7 a year for a G this year) then you don't sign anyone.

What's the point of saving the money and not addressing the need, just because it was too expensive?

And don't bring up Hutchinson. Hutch's contract, as a percentage of the total team salary cap, was about 30% more. So it's about the same as 10 million a year in adjusted dollars.

shane_man
03-08-2007, 08:14 AM
The fact is that Davis serves a need. If you don't pay for FA's or you aren't willing to pay the market rate (which is 7 a year for a G this year) then you don't sign anyone.

What's the point of saving the money and not addressing the need, just because it was too expensive?

And don't bring up Hutchinson. Hutch's contract, as a percentage of the total team salary cap, was about 30% more. So it's about the same as 10 million a year in adjusted dollars.

Davis was the first Offensive Lineman signed in FA this year wasnt he???

Thus we made the market... And all i was commenting on was the impeccable statement and how wrong it is considering how much we paid for a player who has never played as well as his billing.

bigmac076
03-08-2007, 09:01 AM
Davis was the first Offensive Lineman signed in FA this year wasnt he???

Thus we made the market... And all i was commenting on was the impeccable statement and how wrong it is considering how much we paid for a player who has never played as well as his billing.
No, Steinbach was signed on the first day I believe for the same contract. And we have said it over and over, teams always pay too much in FA. Its a given.

shane_man
03-08-2007, 09:15 AM
No, Steinbach was signed on the first day I believe for the same contract. And we have said it over and over, teams always pay too much in FA. Its a given.

Doesnt mean that WE have to overpay. We didnt need Leonard Davis. He wasnt a MUST grab player. So we shouldnt have forked out that much money for a player who wasnt an immediate NEED. Nor was his talent that which we just couldnt pass up. This felt like one of those wierd Detroit "lets draft a reciever in the first round again" type moves.

Davis isnt a shade of **** on Steinbach either.

bigmac076
03-08-2007, 09:26 AM
Doesnt mean that WE have to overpay. We didnt need Leonard Davis. He wasnt a MUST grab player. So we shouldnt have forked out that much money for a player who wasnt an immediate NEED. Nor was his talent that which we just couldnt pass up. This felt like one of those wierd Detroit "lets draft a reciever in the first round again" type moves.

Davis isnt a shade of **** on Steinbach either.
You dont think O-line is an immediate need? Which Cowboys team you been watching? Davis was successful early in his career, when he was at Guard. His first 3 seasons were at guard and when Arizona moved him out to tackle, that is when his performance tailed-off considerably. I am not happy with the Davis signing either, that is until we re-sign Colombo. I DO NOT want Davis at tackle, he is a guard.

shane_man
03-08-2007, 09:44 AM
You dont think O-line is an immediate need? Which Cowboys team you been watching? Davis was successful early in his career, when he was at Guard. His first 3 seasons were at guard and when Arizona moved him out to tackle, that is when his performance tailed-off considerably. I am not happy with the Davis signing either, that is until we re-sign Colombo. I DO NOT want Davis at tackle, he is a guard.

And on that note... We definately agree...

LSUALUM99
03-08-2007, 11:10 AM
Shane. Davis was actually the LAST of the FA Guards off the market. Dockery signed for 49 Million, Steinbach for 49 Million and Dielman signed with SD for 36 million over 6 years (slightly MORE per year than Davis).

bigmac076
03-08-2007, 11:29 AM
Shane. Davis was actually the LAST of the FA Guards off the market. Dockery signed for 49 Million, Steinbach for 49 Million and Dielman signed with SD for 36 million over 6 years (slightly MORE per year than Davis).
looks like the Chargers got the home town "discount".

TNewFan41
03-08-2007, 01:15 PM
Yea, but Colombo is being a Fagg** and won't take our home town discount. If it weren't for us, who knows, he may be homeless.