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Geo
02-19-2009, 05:50 PM
#1. Gil Brandt's NFL.com blog on all the pro days (http://blogs.nfl.com/category/pro-days/)


#2. Pro Days this week
Arkansas State, March 31 David Johnson
Fort Valley State, March 30
Hawaii, April 2 Jake Ingram, Ryan Mouton, David Veikune
Kent State, March 30 Augustus Parrish
Missouri Western, April 2
SMU, April 2 Thomas Morstead
UCLA, March 31 Kahlil Bell
USC, April 1 David Buehler, Brian Cushing, Kevin Ellison, Cary Harris, Kaluka Maiava, Clay Matthews, Rey Maualuga, Fili Moala, Kyle Moore, Mark Sanchez, Patrick Turner


#3. Calender for all pro days (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80ea7e80&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true)


#4. Early start this year, because Wyoming RB Devin Moore and his agent shrewdly made up for a disappointing non-invite to the Combine.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/19/wyomings-moore/

Wyoming’s Moore gets his (pro) day in Indy

Wyoming running back Devin Moore wasn’t invited to the NFL Scouting Combine, so he had to find another way to get his foot in the door.

Not only did he get in, but he had the first official workout in front of NFL team officials in Indianapolis.

Moore, who grew up in Indianapolis and attended high school at Cardinal Ritter there, held his own private “pro day” on Thursday for scouts at a sports training facility near the airport. Fourteen teams attended the “off-campus” workout at which he ran the 40 in 4.43 and 4.41 seconds, had a 35-inch vertical jump, a 10-foot long jump, short-shuttle runs of 4.22 and 4.29 seconds, a 7.14-second cone drill and 27 reps on the bench press.

His 4.41 40 would have ranked fifth-best at last year’s combine among running backs. Moore, who was measured at 5-9½ and weighed 190 pounds, is the all-time leading rusher in Wyoming history and was the Mountain West Conference rushing champion last season.

– Gil Brandt

Good performance, especially as Moore will get some looks as a return man prospect.

princefielder28
02-19-2009, 05:53 PM
That a boy Devin!

LonghornsLegend
02-19-2009, 06:41 PM
Somebody is gonna pick him up before too late, makes no sense he didn't get invited to the combines but that won't stop teams from looking his way in the 2nd day.

Paranoidmoonduck
02-19-2009, 06:56 PM
Those are good numbers considering how the whole thing came together. I like Moore a lot as at least a return guy. I hope he gets his shot in the NFL.

GET LOOSE
02-19-2009, 07:00 PM
I liked Moore he should have been invited to the combine. I thought he would have ran in the high 4.3s but still nice

JRTPlaya21
02-19-2009, 07:14 PM
I knew he'd do well. He'll go in the 1st 4 rounds.

nepg
02-19-2009, 07:27 PM
Teams will love him for the fact that he wanted it so bad, he went to them to show what he could do. I imagine he'll have another pro day and treat this one as his combine.
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SeanTaylorRIP
02-19-2009, 08:03 PM
Gotta love this kid, I hope a team drafts him as a sleeper in round three. 27 reps on the bench press is highly impressive.

nepg
02-19-2009, 08:19 PM
Ya, on top of going out and making sure scouts saw him in Indy, he actually had a damn good workout.
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bored of education
02-19-2009, 08:23 PM
I like Moore but I am so curious to see how Herb Donaldson works out at his pro day (Priest Holmes v2.0)!

HeavyLeggedWaistBender
02-19-2009, 10:10 PM
Thats pretty damn cool. 190 is a lil light but whatever.

27 reps is gunna be at the top of the rb class too.

Im really impressed by this.

killxswitch
02-20-2009, 02:47 PM
Good for him. 27 reps for a little guy like him is really impressive, and it shows real desire and intelligence to just hold your own pro day when everyone who matters is already in one place.

bored of education
02-25-2009, 10:00 PM
I am excited no matter what day the UCONN pro day is I am going to it!

superman
02-26-2009, 08:24 AM
ends up being the fastest and strongest rb

quincyyyyy
02-26-2009, 09:24 AM
When is Frantz Joseph's pro day?

Solomon
02-26-2009, 12:51 PM
When is Frantz Joseph's pro day?

Today! But I'm not sure of what time it is if that's what you're asking. I can't wait to see the results.

Prediction for Joseph: 26 reps, 4.74 40 yard dash.

bored of education
02-26-2009, 01:19 PM
2009 pro pay workouts (dates subject to change)
School Date Combine participants
Abilene Christian March 13 Johnny Knox, Bernard Scott
Air Force March 16
Akron March 18
Alabama March 11 Antoine Caldwell, Glen Coffee, Rashad Johnson, Andre Smith, John Parker Wilson
Alabama State March 6
Alcorn State March 24 Lee Robinson
Angelo State March 3
Appalachian State March 24
Arizona March 14 Eben Britton, Mike Thomas
Arizona State March 20 Rudy Carpenter, Paul Fanaika, Troy Nolan, Morris Wooten
Arkansas March 10 Jonathan Luigs, Jose Valdez
Arkansas-Pine Bluff March 11
Arkansas State March 31 David Johnson
Auburn March 10 Tyronne Green, Sen'Derrick Marks, Jerraud Powers
Ball State March 26 Robert Brewster, Nate Davis
Baylor March 3 Dan ***, Jason Smith
Bethany (Kansas) March 11
Boise State March 17 Jeremy Childs, Ian Johnson
Boston College March 12 Kevin Akins, Ron Brace, B.J. Raji
Bowie State March 17
Bowling Green March 12
Brown March 11
BYU March 11 Travis Bright, Austin Collie, Ray Feinga
California March 18 Rulon Davis, Anthony Felder, Zack Follett, Alex Mack, Cameron Morrah, Worrell Williams
Carson-Newman March 10
Central Arkansas March 11 Marquez Branson, Nathan Brown
Central Florida March 26 Joe Burnett
Central Michigan March 16
Central Oklahoma March 10
Central Washington March 9 Jared Bronson, Mike Reilly
Cincinnati March 19 Connor Barwin, Trevor Canfield, Kevin Huber, Mike Mickens, DeAngelo Smith,
Brandon Underwood
Clark March 9
Clemson March 24 Chris Clemons, James Davis, Michael Hamlin, Cullen Harper, Aaron Kelly, Dorell Scott
Colgate March 3
Colorado March 9
Colorado State March 10 Gartrell Johnson, Kory Sperry
Connecticut March 25 William Beatty, Cody Brown, Donald Brown, Darius Butler
East Carolina March 26 Davon Drew, Khalif Mitchell
Eastern Kentucky March 24
Eastern Michigan March 16
Eastern Washington March 9
Florida March 15 Percy Harvin, Cornelius Ingram, Louis Murphy, Jason Watkins
Florida A&M March 19
Florida State March 16 Everette Brown, Graham Gano
Fort Valley State March 30
Fresno State March 11 Tom Brandstater, Bear Pascoe
Furman March 24 Joel Bell
Georgia March 19 Asher Allen, Dannell Ellerbe, Corvey Irvin, Mohamed Massaquoi, Knowshon Moreno,
Brannan Southerland, Matthew Stafford, Jarius Wynn
Georgia Southern March 3
Georgia Tech March 9 Andrew Gardner, Michael Johnson, Darryl Richard, Vance Walker,
Jahi Word-Daniels
Graceland (Iowa) March 5
Grand Valley State March 9
Hampton March 20 Chris Baker
Hawaii April 2 Jake Ingram, Ryan Mouton, David Veikune
Hofstra March 24
Howard March 10
Idaho March 12 Eddie Williams
Idaho State March 2
Illinois March 18 Vontae Davis, Will Davis, Xavier Fulton, Derek Walker
Indiana March 10 Andrew Means
Indiana (Penn.) March 3
Iowa March 23 Robert Bruggeman, Bradley Fletcher, Shonn Greene, Mitch King, Seth Olsen
Iowa State March 25
Jackson State March 25 Domonique Johnson
James Madison March 18
Kansas March 10
Kansas State March 12 Ian Campbell, Josh Freeman
Kent State March 12 Augustus Parrish
Kentucky March 11 Tim Masthay, Marcus McClinton, Myron Pryor
Louisiana-Lafayette March 17
Louisiana Tech March 18
Louisville March 26 Hunter Cantwell, Adrian Grady, Eric Wood
LSU March 16 Darry Beckwith, Demetrius Byrd, Marlon Favorite, Brett Helms, Tyson Jackson,
Ricky Jean-Francois, Herman Johnson, Quinn Johnson, Curtis Taylor
Maine March 26
Marshall March 20 Darius Passmore, C.J. Spillman
Maryland March 11 Kevin Barnes, Moise Fokou, Daniel Gronkowski, Darrius Heyward-Bey,
Jaime Thomas, Edwin Williams
Massachussets March 26
McNeese State March 10 Quinten Lawrence, Kyle Link
Miami (Florida) Feb. 27 Bruce Johnson
Miami (Ohio) March 20
Michigan March 13 Sean Griffin, Tim Jamison, Terrance Taylor, Morgan Trent
Michigan State March 18 Brian Hoyer, Javon Ringer, Otis Wiley
Mississippi March 26 Jason Cook, Peria Jerry, Maurice Miller, Michael Oher, Jamarca Sanford,
Mike Wallace
Mississippi State April 1 Derek Pegues
Missouri March 5, March 19 Chase Coffman, Chase Daniel, Evander Hood, Jeremy Maclin, William Moore,
Stryker Sulak
Missouri Western April 2
Montana March 9
Montana State March 11
Morgan State March 19
Murray State March 24
Navy March 11
Nebraska March 12 Cody Glenn, Marlon Lucky, Lydon Murtha, Zach Potter, Matt Slauson, Nate Swift
Nebraska-Omaha March 13
Nevada March 25 Josh Mauga, Marko Mitchell
New Hampshire March 19
New Mexico March 12 Glover Quin, DeAndre Wright
New Mexico State March 11 Chase Holbrook
Norfolk State March 20, March 27 Don Carey
North Carolina March 17 Brooks Foster, Hakeem Nicks, Richard Quinn, Garrett Reynolds, Brandon Tate
North Carolina-Central March 25
N.C. State March 18 Andre Brown, Anthony Hill
North Dakota State March 24
Northern Colorado March 10
Northern Illinois March 16 Larry English
Northwestern March 12 Tyrell Sutton
Northwest Missouri March 11
Ohio March 12
Ohio State March 13 Alex Boone, Marcus Freeman, Brian Hartline, Malcolm Jenkins, James Laurinaitis, Brian Robiskie, Donald Washington, Chris Wells
Oklahoma March 10 Jon Cooper, Nic Harris, Lendy Holmes, Juaquin Iglesias, Manuel Johnson,
Phil Loadholt, Duke Robinson, Brandon Walker
Oklahoma State March 11 Matt Fodge, Brandon Pettigrew
Oregon March 12 Jairus Byrd, Patrick Chung, RaShon Harris, Jeremiah Johnson, Fenuki Tupou, Max Unger,
Jaison Williams
Oregon State March 13 Victor Butler, Brandon Hughes, Andy Levitre, Keenan Lewis, Sammie Stroughter
Penn State March 18 Deon Butler, Gerald Cadogan, Maurice Evans, Aaron Maybin, Jordan Norwood, Lydell Sargeant, A.Q. Shipley, Derrick Williams
Pittsburgh March 17 C.J. Davis, LeSean McCoy, Scott McKillop
Portland State March 11
Purdue March 13 Alex Magee, Greg Orton, Curtis Painter, Kory Sheets
Rice March 26 James Casey, Jarett Dillard
Richmond March 19 Lawrence Sidbury Jr.
Rutgers March 23 Kenny Britt, Courtney Greene, Tiquan Underwood
Samford March 12
San Diego State March 21
San Jose State March 20 Coye Francies, Jarron Gilbert, Christopher Owens, David Richmond
SMU April 2 Thomas Morstead
South Carolina March 18, March 25 Jasper Brinkley, Emanuel Cook, Jared Cook, Kenny McKinley, Jamon Meredith, Captain Munnerlyn
South Carolina State March 23
South Florida March 13 Taurus Johnson, Tyrone McKenzie
Southeastern Oklahoma March 9
Southern March 17
Southern Miss March 25 Ryan McKee, Gerald McRath, Shawn Nelson
Stanford March 19 Pannel Egboh, Alex Fletcher, Anthony Kimble, Wopamo Osaisai
SUNY-Albany March 5
TCU March 6 Stephen Hodge, Jason Phillips
Temple March 19 Terrance Knighton
Tennessee March 11 Robert Ayers, Demonte' Bolden, Britton Colquitt, Arian Foster, Ramon Foster, Anthony Parker
Tennessee State March 20 Cornelius Lewis, Javarris Williams
Texas March 25 Quan Cosby, Roy Miller, Chris Ogbonnaya, Brian Orakpo, Ryan Palmer
Texas A&M March 4 Michael Bennett, Justin Brantly, Mike Goodson, Stephen McGee
Texas State March 24
Texas Tech March 12 Michael Crabtree, Graham Harrell, Darcel McBath, Louis Vasquez, Brandon Williams
Toledo March 12
Towson March 10
Troy March 5 Sherrod Martin
Tulane March 20 Troy Kropog
Tulsa March 9 Brennan Marion
UCLA March 31 Kahlil Bell
UC Davis March 20
UNLV March 5
USC April 1 David Buehler, Brian Cushing McRath, Kevin Ellison, Cary Harris, Kaluka Maiava, Clay Matthews, Rey Maualuga, Fili Moala, Kyle Moore, Mark Sanchez, Patrick Turner
Utah March 9 Paul Kruger, Louie Sakoda, Sean Smith
Utah State March 6, March 27 Rob Myers
UTEP March 12 Robby Felix, Jose Martinez
Valdosta State March 2
Vanderbilt March 5 D.J. Moore
Virginia March 19 Eugene Monroe, Kevin Ogletree, Cedric Peerman, John Phillips, Clint Sintim
Virginia Tech March 19 Victor Harris, Orion Martin
Wake Forest March 23 Stanley Arnoux, Aaron Curry, Alphonso Smith, Sam Swank, Chip Vaughn
Washington March 10 Juan Garcia
Weber State March 10 Marcus Mailei
West Texas A&M March 11
West Virginia March 12 Greg Isdaner, Mortty Ivy, Pat White
Western Illinois March 3
Western Kentucky March 25
Western Michigan March 10 Louis Delmas
William & Mary March 23
Wisconsin March 4 Travis Beckum, Jonathan Casillas, P.J. Hill, Andy Kemp, DeAndre Levy,
Matt Shaughnessy, Kraig Urbik
Wyoming March 12

Solomon
02-26-2009, 01:23 PM
They lamely don't have FAU on that list. I'm pretty sure it's today though.

Edit: It is today and just finished up. 40 times haven't been revealed online yet.

Excerpt about Frantz Joseph from a Ted Hutton blog:

Joseph had a smile on his face the entire time. Said he didn’t care what his time was. “Just put a running back in front of me and let me go,” he said.

oregonbucfan
02-26-2009, 01:28 PM
Oregon... Ill be at

Solomon
02-26-2009, 04:58 PM
This just in:
Frantz Joseph's numbers!

4.69 40 yard dash.
9 ft 7.5 inch broad jump.
27.5 inch vertical.
19 reps at 225 lbs.

The 40 yard dash should help him as I know he was considered a 4.8 guy whose straightline speed might be a problem in the NFL. Clearly that shouldn't be an issue anymore.

The vertical was brutal though, but I'm not sure it is a good example of his explosiveness.

The 19 reps I found surprising as well. He plays much stronger than that.

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/college/fau/blog/

draftguru151
02-27-2009, 02:47 PM
And perhaps no one helped their stock more than Adkins. At 5-foot-11 he weighed in at 230 pounds (he played last year at 243). And he ran a 4.43 40 time, had a 4.25-second shuttle, a 36.5 inch vertical and benched 225 pounds 30 times.

Good work out for Spencer Adkins, not gonna get drafted, but still a nice workout.

Bruce Johnson ran a 4.40 and had a 38.5 inch vert, should go in the 5th round area.

Glenn Cook ran a high 4.6 and had a 33 inch vert. Might get drafted really late but I think he should get into a camp as an UDFA.

Reddick ran a low 4.5, no other info from him. Expecting the same as Cook.

jnew76
03-01-2009, 02:39 AM
edit: nevermind

initial_flo
03-01-2009, 04:37 AM
TE - Darius Hill - 6'7" - 247lbs - 31" Vertical - 9'6" Broad Jump - 4.75 and 4.74 40yd times



Don't know who the hell this guy is, but if he can catch a football, I'd take a flier on him.

nepg
03-01-2009, 08:11 AM
Hill is lost among all the other TE's in this class. I think he's great. He's more of a receiving TE, but has an amazing frame to become much more than that.
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jnew76
03-01-2009, 10:06 AM
Great idea Geo, so glad you thought of it.

Solomon
03-02-2009, 01:53 PM
Don't know who the hell this guy is, but if he can catch a football, I'd take a flier on him.

He's actually been one of the most productive tight ends in the nation over the last three years. 40 catches for 670 yards and 7 TDs this past year. 65 catches for 926 yards and 11 TDs in 2007. And 42 receptions for 741 yards and 10 touchdowns as a sophomore in 2006.

He's one of the big reasons Nate Davis looked so good throwing for Ball State.

thenewfeature06
03-02-2009, 01:56 PM
where is Trimane Goddard in the UNC Pro Day

Shane P. Hallam
03-02-2009, 02:34 PM
edit: nevermind

Why did you edit your post? That was good stuff! I was trying to bump you up!

Geo
03-02-2009, 03:11 PM
Yeah, I hope you keep adding to the thread, jnew.

ThePudge
03-02-2009, 03:17 PM
He's actually been one of the most productive tight ends in the nation over the last three years. 40 catches for 670 yards and 7 TDs this past year. 65 catches for 926 yards and 11 TDs in 2007. And 42 receptions for 741 yards and 10 touchdowns as a sophomore in 2006.

He's one of the big reasons Nate Davis looked so good throwing for Ball State.

Darius Hill is a big target that can really stretch the field in the receiving game. He has the hands, size, speed, and fluidity in his routes to play a role at the NFL level. I've always wondered why he is ranked so lowly everywhere. Still, scouts and NFL teams alike have to worry about his attitude, work ethic, and inability, and lack of will, while blocking. He'd be best suited in the slot as a strictly receiving TE. I like him personally, he has boom or bust potential. The downside may be scary, but his ceiling, his upside, may be enough to land him in the Late Rounds on April 26th.

Also, I know I may not be a big gun around here such as JBond or Geo, but typically I am impressed by your posts jnew. I've never been able to figure out why you don't post more around here. I'm not going to name any names, I really don't have any in mind, but I feel your draft knowledge exceeds what many realize. No more "nevermind." haha

bored of education
03-02-2009, 04:31 PM
Eight NFL teams sent representatives to Idaho State University to watch six players work out at the school’s pro day.

DB D.J. Clark, who did not participate at the NFL combine in Indianapolis, turned in the most impressive performance.

Clark, who measured in at 6-foot-1 1/8 and 200 pounds, ran the 40-yard dash in 4.55 and 4.52 seconds on AstroTurf. Clark had a 36-inch vertical and a 10-7 broad jump, and did the 20-yard shuttle drill in 4.01 seconds and the 3-cone drill in 6.91 seconds. Clark put up 14 repetitions of 225 pounds in the bench press.

Clark was a second-team All-Big Sky Conference performer, finishing his college career tied for third on the school’s career interceptions list with 15. He led the team in picks in all four of his seasons with the team, including five interceptions in 2008.
from Gil at nfldotcom


sounds like Brandon Carr a bit

CantStopGregJones
03-03-2009, 02:47 PM
Eight NFL teams sent representatives to Idaho State University to watch six players work out at the school’s pro day.

DB D.J. Clark, who did not participate at the NFL combine in Indianapolis, turned in the most impressive performance.

Clark, who measured in at 6-foot-1 1/8 and 200 pounds, ran the 40-yard dash in 4.55 and 4.52 seconds on AstroTurf. Clark had a 36-inch vertical and a 10-7 broad jump, and did the 20-yard shuttle drill in 4.01 seconds and the 3-cone drill in 6.91 seconds. Clark put up 14 repetitions of 225 pounds in the bench press.

Clark was a second-team All-Big Sky Conference performer, finishing his college career tied for third on the school’s career interceptions list with 15. He led the team in picks in all four of his seasons with the team, including five interceptions in 2008.
from Gil at nfldotcom


sounds like Brandon Carr a bit

I highly doubt it. I watched a lot of Brandon Carr in college and he was far and away the best small school corner I've ever seen. I was shocked he didn't go higher. Brandon Carr will be in consideration for Top 10 in the NFL some day.

bored of education
03-03-2009, 03:16 PM
WACO, Texas — When you get on the main street leading into Baylor University, you immediately see the signs directing visitors to the football team’s pro day workouts. That’s what happens when you have a top draft pick in your midst.

There were representatives from 15 NFL teams at today’s workout, including three offensive line coaches — Andy Hecht (Jacksonville), Paul Alexander (Cincinnati), and Mike Solari (Seattle). The main attraction was offensive tackle Jason Smith, projected to be a top 10 draft pick next month. Smith was one of 12 players participating — 11 from Baylor and one player from nearby Mary Harden Baylor University. Baylor passed out a helpful information packet on its 11 players, complete with contact information for agents and where to reach the players on draft day.

Pro day was well organized. Players ran outdoors on grass. The overall event took a little over two hours, followed by extra time in which the three NFL line coaches worked out Smith and fellow Baylor OL Dan ***.

Smith did position drills but stood on his combine numbers for the other drills. *** participated at the combine but did everything Tuesday morning in hopes of improving his numbers.

*** measured in at 6-foot-4, 303 pounds. He ran the 40 in 5.48, running with the wind. He had a 24 ½-inch vertical jump, 7-foot, 1 ½-inch broad jump, 5.40 short shuttle, 8.47 3-cone drill, and did 20 reps at the bench press.

All 15 of the NFL reps in attendance will be at Texas A&M’s pro day Wednesday morning.

The Rams, who have the second overall pick in the draft, will be back in Waco on March 12 for a private workout with Smith.

CantStopGregJones
03-03-2009, 06:31 PM
Jason Williams ran a 4.49 with a 39" vertical and 26 reps of 225.

Now that ever has jumped on the Connor Barwin badwagon with me because of his combine who is going to jump on the Jason Williams bandwagon with me because of his Pro Day??? It's a shame it takes all this for people to see what these guys are made of...

I'm still surprised Javarris Williams is getting such little fan love...oh well.

ThePudge
03-03-2009, 06:54 PM
Jason Williams ran a 4.49 with a 39" vertical and 26 reps of 225.

Now that ever has jumped on the Connor Barwin badwagon with me because of his combine who is going to jump on the Jason Williams bandwagon with me because of his Pro Day??? It's a shame it takes all this for people to see what these guys are made of...

I'm still surprised Javarris Williams is getting such little fan love...oh well.

haha I'm pretty sure the Connor Barwin bandwagon started midseason because of the fact that he was a good story (former TE and basketball player) putting up very nice numbers (led the Big East in Sacks) for a surging Bearcats team (who went to a BCS game). Barwin has become a big hit this year.

As for Williams, he's already got a bit of hype behind him. Impressive showing for him. Still, he ran on a hardwood floor, not a turf field.

CantStopGregJones
03-03-2009, 07:19 PM
haha I'm pretty sure the Connor Barwin bandwagon started midseason because of the fact that he was a good story (former TE and basketball player) putting up very nice numbers (led the Big East in Sacks) for a surging Bearcats team (who went to a BCS game). Barwin has become a big hit this year.

As for Williams, he's already got a bit of hype behind him. Impressive showing for him. Still, he ran on a hardwood floor, not a turf field.

I'm pretty sure it started earlier than that because I've been talking about him awhile. Go check footballsfuture and my screen name is JLB1311....maybe I haven't talked about him Jason Williams, Javarris Williams or Jon Copper as much on this site because its my second option, but non-the-less I've been on thiem early and often.

I suppose a hardword floor made him jump 2 inches higher than any other linebacker too :roll:

ThePudge
03-03-2009, 07:48 PM
I'm pretty sure it started earlier than that because I've been talking about him awhile. Go check footballsfuture and my screen name is JLB1311....maybe I haven't talked about him Jason Williams, Javarris Williams or Jon Copper as much on this site because its my second option, but non-the-less I've been on thiem early and often.

I suppose a hardword floor made him jump 2 inches higher than any other linebacker too :roll:

haha, Well, since you mentioned it, due to the nature of hardwood compared to artificial turf, it could easily add two inches to his vertical. That, my friend, is due to a few principles in physics. Running on the hardwood surface could easily subtract up to .1 to .15 to Williams' 40 time. He is still an impressive prospect, with an impressive workout, but would likely run between a 4.59-4.64 on an artificial turf surface.

While I understand you like Barwin, and am aware you did before his Combine performance, I do question your ability to evaluate talent. You had Derek Pegues a fringe first round pick, Captain Munnerlyn a first round pick, Ricky Jean-Francois a first round value, George Selvie a mid-first rounder (graded a mid-round pick by the advisory committee), and likely third-fourth round pick, Antoine Caldwell, a first round pick.

CantStopGregJones
03-03-2009, 08:14 PM
haha, Well, since you mentioned it, due to the nature of hardwood compared to artificial turf, it could easily add two inches to his vertical. That, my friend, is due to a few principles in physics. Running on the hardwood surface could easily subtract up to .1 to .15 to Williams' 40 time. He is still an impressive prospect, with an impressive workout, but would likely run between a 4.59-4.64 on an artificial turf surface.

While I understand you like Barwin, and am aware you did before his Combine performance, I do question your ability to evaluate talent. You had Derek Pegues a fringe first round pick, Captain Munnerlyn a first round pick, Ricky Jean-Francois a first round value, George Selvie a mid-first rounder (graded a mid-round pick by the advisory committee), and likely third-fourth round pick, Antoine Caldwell, a first round pick.

Aside from Selvie every one of those guys will do very well in the NFL. Francois has star talent with a seemingly bad head on his shoulders...someone can straighten him out.

Selvie was just a "Value" thing kind of everyone else likes him so he must be somewhat that good. I haven't watched him enough. Pegues, Munnerlyn, Francois and Caldwell are all future starters in this league.

ThePudge
03-03-2009, 08:23 PM
Aside from Selvie every one of those guys will do very well in the NFL. Francois has star talent with a seemingly bad head on his shoulders...someone can straighten him out.

Selvie was just a "Value" thing kind of everyone else likes him so he must be somewhat that good. I haven't watched him enough. Pegues, Munnerlyn, Francois and Caldwell are all future starters in this league.

Francois reminds me very much of a poor man's Claude Wroten, both in his talent & attitude. That, of course, is not much of a compliment for him.

superman
03-03-2009, 11:27 PM
so...who is jason williams?

Woody56
03-03-2009, 11:37 PM
so...who is jason williams?

LB from Western Illinois

etk
03-04-2009, 07:12 AM
Aside from Selvie every one of those guys will do very well in the NFL. Francois has star talent with a seemingly bad head on his shoulders...someone can straighten him out.

Selvie was just a "Value" thing kind of everyone else likes him so he must be somewhat that good. I haven't watched him enough. Pegues, Munnerlyn, Francois and Caldwell are all future starters in this league.

Selvie is the only one in that group who will do very well in the NFL imo.

Pegues doesn't have a position. He's a classic tweener.

Munnerlyn has really tight hips.

RJF did nothing in college. Good luck with that one.

Caldwell is solid but only the 4th or 5th best C in the draft.

Selvie's production is not a fluke. He's a tremendous edge rusher with a great motor. I've seen him dominate games he didn't even start, playing through ankle injuries and stuff. He's the guy you want rushing from the right side when there's 2 min left in the 4th quarter and the opposing team is driving down the field. He just gets to the QB and makes plays.

bored of education
03-04-2009, 04:15 PM
Stephen McGee. Remember this name because he could be a real sleeper in next month’s draft.

Certainly the 17 NFL scouts and one coach who showed up at Texas A&M’s pro day will remember the quarterback and his workout. The Aggies held their pro day on Wednesday, but it actually began with meet-and-greets Tuesday night at Wings-n-More in College Station, where scouts had an opportunity to conduct personal player interviews as well as ask questions of the A&M coaching staff.

The only non-scout at the pro day was Jaguars quarterbacks coach David Shula, who put McGee through QB drills. And let me tell you, McGee looked outstanding.

McGee, who ran the second-fastest 40 among quarterbacks at the combine (4.66), measured 6-2 7/8 and weighed 222 pounds, down 3 from his combine weigh-in.

Watch out for this kid on draft day.

Among the 14 players who worked out for scouts:

Running back Mike Goodson (5-11 ¾, 212 pounds) ran the 40 in 4.43 and 4.47 seconds and did positional drills for the scouts. His 40 times might be inflated a little because A&M is one of three schools (Wisconsin and Ohio State are the others) to lay down a rubber surface over the top of their indoor field turf, which can result in quicker times. Goodson ran a 4.54 40 at the combine, the seventh-fastest among running backs in Indy two weeks ago.
Defensive end Michael Bennett (6-2 7/8, 222) ran two 40s, both in 4.86 seconds, and had a vertical of 36.5 inches. The vertical jump event was conducted by A&M coaches.
Punter Justin Brantly (6-3 3/8, 247 pounds) looked pretty good in his workout.
Cornerback Danny Gorrer (5-11 5/8, 185 pounds) ran the 40 in 4.42 and 4.40 seconds, had a 35.5-inch vertical, a 9-foot 5-inch broad jump, and a 6.90-second 3-cone drill. He slipped in his short shuttle and no time was recorded.
– Gil Brandt

McGee is def opening my eyes. I knew he threw a good ball but was not consistent. 3rd/4throunder..maybe????

ElectricEye
03-04-2009, 04:29 PM
McGee is always a guy I had my eye on and he's really starting to catch fire. He's working out well and looking good in position drills. Talented kid, but one has to wonder about his college track record. A&M wasn't exactly the best place for him to play, but still. He's a draftable prospect now for sure. 4th round type guy at this point.

Sveen
03-04-2009, 04:30 PM
I think that's a little high for him. Maybe 5th/6th?

bored of education
03-04-2009, 05:38 PM
There were 28 teams represented at Wisconsin’s Pro Day. They ran on field turf and did not put a rubber matting across it like they did last year.

Two position coaches — Carolina’s offensive line caoch Dave Magazu and Jaguars tight ends coach Mike Tice. A total of 11 players worked out and they all ran position drills.

The event was very well organized and head coach Bret Bielema spent a great deal of time answering questions prior to the workout and was very helpful.

Running back P.J. Hill measured in at 5-foot-10 1/8, 218 pounds. It is the lighest he’s been since junior high school. He ran a 4.65 and 4.63 in the 40-yard dash. He had a 37-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot 2-inch broad jump. He ran a 4.24 in the short shuttle and had a 7.09 in three-cone drill. He had 16 bench press reps.
Tight end Travis Beckum checked in at 6-2 3/4, 239 pounds. He ran a 4.61 and 4.63 in the 40-yard dash as well as recording a 9-foot 10-inch broad jump. He had a 38.5 inch vertical, a 4.10 short shuttle and a 7.05 three-cone drill. He did not lift.
Guard Kraig Urbik came in at 6-5 3/8, 328 pounds. He ran a 5.30 and 5.25 in the 40 and tallied a 4.75 second short shuttle. He did not run the three-cone drill. He put up a 25.5 inch vertical jump and an 8-foot, 2-inch broad jump. He did not lift.
Guard Andy Kemp was measured at 6-4 3/4, 306 pounds. He ran 5.35 and 5.38 in the 40 and had a 7-foot, 11-nch broad jump. He also put up a 27.5 inch vertical jump and ran the short shuttle in 4.83 seconds.
Defensive end Matt Shaungnessy checked in at 6-5 1/8, 263 pounds. He ran a 4.86 in the 40, but did not do any other workout drills.
Linebacker Jonathan Casillas is injured and did not work out, nor did linebacker DeAndre Levy. They will work out on April 2.
OL Eric VandenHeuvel — who declined a combine invitation — is going to medical school rather than playing football.


from nfl.com

gpngc
03-04-2009, 05:42 PM
Urbik looks like a 2nd-3rd rounder and one of the top three pure OGs in the draft.

Those are nice #s for P.J. Hill IMO.

etk
03-04-2009, 06:51 PM
Did I read my eyes correctly? Michael Bennett 222 lbs?

PJ Hill had a solid workout aside from the 40 times, which were expected.

Solomon
03-04-2009, 10:32 PM
Tight end Travis Beckum checked in at 6-2 3/4, 239 pounds. He ran a 4.61 and 4.63 in the 40-yard dash as well as recording a 9-foot 10-inch broad jump. He had a 38.5 inch vertical, a 4.10 short shuttle and a 7.05 three-cone drill. He did not lift.
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Great stuff! I know at the combine he tied for the most reps among tight ends and weighed 243 lbs. I really have a feeling he's gonna make alot of teams regret on passing him over.

I remember Travis Beckum! #1 receiving TE in the draft.

WMD
03-04-2009, 10:44 PM
Tight end Travis Beckum checked in at 6-2 3/4, 239 pounds. He ran a 4.61 and 4.63 in the 40-yard dash as well as recording a 9-foot 10-inch broad jump. He had a 38.5 inch vertical, a 4.10 short shuttle and a 7.05 three-cone drill. He did not lift.
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Great stuff! I know at the combine he tied for the most reps among tight ends and weighed 243 lbs. I really have a feeling he's gonna make alot of teams regret on passing him over.

I remember Travis Beckum! #1 receiving TE in the draft.

Shawn Nelson > Beckum!

RWills
03-05-2009, 08:26 AM
Urbik looks like a 2nd-3rd rounder and one of the top three pure OGs in the draft.

Those are nice #s for P.J. Hill IMO.

I thought he looked like one of the top 3 at the senior bowl. But looking at his vertical/broad and short shuttle makes me wonder how his explosion and pulling is. I still like him, but more as a late 3rd

jnew76
03-05-2009, 04:00 PM
Missouri Tigers forum moderators reporting from the Pro-Day are reporting William Moore's vertical was 36.5" and his official 40 was 4.39.

Looking for confirmed links and I am sure that Gil Brant will have something more official from his sources. These reports have generally been accurate in the past.

Ziggy Hood had a 35.5" vert

AkiliSmith
03-05-2009, 04:42 PM
Missouri Tigers forum moderators reporting from the Pro-Day are reporting William Moore's vertical was 36.5" and his official 40 was 4.39.

Looking for confirmed links and I am sure that Gil Brant will have something more official from his sources. These reports have generally been accurate in the past.

Ziggy Hood had a 35.5" vert
If Moore ran a 4.39 on their track than Maclin ran a sub 4.0

badgerbacker
03-05-2009, 04:48 PM
Running back P.J. Hill measured in at 5-foot-10 1/8, 218 pounds. It is the lighest he’s been since junior high school. He ran a 4.65 and 4.63 in the 40-yard dash. He had a 37-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot 2-inch broad jump. He ran a 4.24 in the short shuttle and had a 7.09 in three-cone drill. He had 16 bench press reps.

I'm honestly shocked at that 40 time from Hill. I'm glad to see he obviously trained seriously for this, because I really didn't think he would break 4.80. It'd be interesting to see him play at 218 pounds.

jnew76
03-05-2009, 05:00 PM
If Moore ran a 4.39 on their track than Maclin ran a sub 4.0

Maclin, Coffman, and Chase Daniel did not work out... They will be participating in Missouri's 2nd pro-day on March 19th. Chase Patton was supposed to work out but I have not seen anything on how he looked or timed.

jnew76
03-05-2009, 05:59 PM
Here is a link confirming the above information I posted. Says that Moore was in the low 4.4's on all the watches and at least one watch had him at 4.39.

WR-Tommy Saunders did and AMAZING 31 bench press reps, more than any WR or LB at the combine! I doubt it helps his chance to be drafted, but that is a sick number.

Chase Patton is still recovering from a torn ligament in his ankle from the Texas vs. the Nation game, but still threw for scouts.

Jeff Wolfert had a good day kicking the ball as well.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/weblogs/behind-the-stripes/2009/mar/05/tigers-work-out-for-nfl-scouts/

etk
03-05-2009, 07:15 PM
Shawn Nelson > Beckum!

As an overall tight end, yes, but Beckum is the 2nd best receiving TE behind Jared Cook.

EDIT: Well actually...Chase Coffman is probably the best receiving TE in the draft, but it depends where you factor in potential.

jnew76
03-05-2009, 08:53 PM
Gil Brant has updated his Pro Day blog -

http://blogs.nfl.com/category/pro-days/

Missouri has good prospects, great atmosphere
Posted: March 5th, 2009 | NFL.com Staff | Tags: Evander Hood, Missouri, William Moore

The scouts just love going to Missouri’s pro day. They get lunch, the people are ultra friendly and it’s just a great stop. This year there are also several Tigers prospects worth watching. The offensive stars — QB Chase Daniel, TE Chase Coffman and WR Jeremy Maclin — will work out March 19, but a number of the defensive players ran drills.

One player who performed really well was S William Moore. He looked good in his positional drills and was impressive overall. He measured in at 6-foot and a 1/2-inch, 221 pounds. He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.51 and 4.49 seconds and the three-cone drill in 6.94 seconds. He also posted a 10-foot, 6-inch broad jump.

Defensive tackle Evander ‘Ziggy’ Hood kept his 40 time from the combine, but did do the other drills. He ran the short shuttle in 4.45 seconds and the three-cone drill in 7.32 seconds. He had 35 reps in the bench press, jumped 34 1/2 inches in the vertical and leaped 9-feet, 8-inches in the broad jump.

Defensive end Stryker Sulak kept all of his combine numbers and did position drills.

Linebacker Brock Christopher checked in at 6-1 5/8, 238 pounds. He ran the 40 in 4.92 and 4.93 seconds, the short shuttle in 4.34 seconds and the three-cone drill in 7.32 seconds, as well as having a 32-inch vertical jump, a 9-foot broad jump and 20 bench press reps.

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Troy’s Martin has impressive Pro Day workout
Posted: March 5th, 2009 | NFL.com Staff | Tags: Sherrod Martin, Terence Moore, Troy

Sherrod Martin stole the show at Troy’s pro day. The cornerback, who was also at the combine, looked excellent in the positional drills.

He was solid in the workout drills as well, running the 40-yard dash in 4.46 and 4.49 seconds and posting a 36.5-inch vertical jump.

Fifteen teams, and two DB coaches — Baltimore’s Mark Carrier and Miami’s David Carrao — showed up to watch the workout that took place outdoors and featured a number of players, because North Alabama and Concordia prospects were included.

Troy’s Terence Moore, who was not at the combine, also worked out and put up a 39-inch vertical, a 9-foot, 8-inch broad jump, a 4.37-second short shuttle, a 7.18-second three-cone drill and 21 bench press reps.

– Gil Brandt

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RB Summers impressive at UNLV Pro Day
Posted: March 5th, 2009 | NFL.com Staff | Tags: Brock Smith, Frank Summers, Rashad Jennings, UNLV

A good indication of whether a prospect may get drafted is if positional coaches show up to his Pro Day workout. That was the case for a pair of smaller school players this week.

At UNLV’s Pro Day, 14 players worked out outdoors on FieldTurf, in front of representatives for 16 teams. RB Frank Summers, who was not invited to the combine, got a positive sign because of the presence of Steelers running backs coach Kirby Wilson.

Summers checked in at 5-foot-9 1/8, 241 pounds and ran a 4.63-second and a 4.64-second 40-yard dash. He put up a 34.5-inch vertical jump, a 9-foot, 4-inch broad jump, a 4.35-second short shuttle, a 7.23-long shuttle and 30 bench press reps.

Another player benefitting from positional coaches coming to watch him work out was Liberty’s Rashad Jennings, who also opened eyes at the combine. He worked out Tuesday in front of six teams, including the Panthers and their RB coach Jim Skipper. He worked out on an indoor track. He weighed 231 pounds, ran a 4.52 in the 40 and a 6.79 in the three-cone drill.

QB Brock Smith used Liberty’s Pro Day to get his name out there as well. He was impressive in his workout and measured in at 6-1 7/8, 242 pounds. He ran 4.87 and 4.84 in the 40, 4.34 in the short shuttle, 7.12 in the three-cone drill and had a 29-inch vertical and a 8-foot, 8-inch broad jump.

Western Illinois’ Pro Day was on Monday and the player to watch was LB Jason Williams. He was one of 11 players working out (including one Arena Leaguer from the Iowa Barnstormers), in front of 14 teams.

He worked out on a wooden gym basketball floor and measured in at 6-1 1/4, 238 pounds. He ran the 40 in 4.49 and 4.52 seconds, had a 39-inch vertical jump and went 10-foot, 9-inches in the broad jump. His shuttle run times were not good, but the basketball floor was so slippery, it is not a good barometer of his ability.

Geo
03-05-2009, 09:36 PM
Ziggy is tearing **** up.

It's funny, I went from being down on him and too critical, two months or so ago, to thinking him a fringe first round pick before the Combine and now many are jumping on that ship.

ThePudge
03-05-2009, 10:01 PM
Ziggy is tearing **** up.

It's funny, I went from being down on him and too critical, two months or so ago, to thinking him a fringe first round pick before the Combine and now many are jumping on that ship.

I think a team reaches for Hood somewhere in the Top 35-40 picks. He's a good athlete who plays with good technique, a decent amount of leverage, quickness, and has some nice pass-rushing moves. Still, I've never been overly impressed with him on film and he really never takes over games or flashes the dominance that you'd like to see for a player in the late first round at the Defensive Tackle position. Still, he is a good prospect and will attract looks from Tampa 2 teams in the first (Tampa Bay and Indianapolis) and perhaps the Detroit Lions at 20th Overall.

holt_bruce81
03-05-2009, 10:42 PM
Ziggy is tearing **** up.

It's funny, I went from being down on him and too critical, two months or so ago, to thinking him a fringe first round pick before the Combine and now many are jumping on that ship.

I knew you'd come around!

Geo
03-06-2009, 12:11 AM
I see the light now, hb. :)

I think a team reaches for Hood somewhere in the Top 35-40 picks. He's a good athlete who plays with good technique, a decent amount of leverage, quickness, and has some nice pass-rushing moves. Still, I've never been overly impressed with him on film and he really never takes over games or flashes the dominance that you'd like to see for a player in the late first round at the Defensive Tackle position. Still, he is a good prospect and will attract looks from Tampa 2 teams in the first (Tampa Bay and Indianapolis) and perhaps the Detroit Lions at 20th Overall.
I agree, his tools and his motor are the major draw for Hood.

I also think he'd look better with the Colts than maybe otherwise. He probably fits the defense well, and would benefit from Freeney and Mathis outside.

holt_bruce81
03-06-2009, 08:35 PM
http://www.columbiatribune.com/weblogs/behind-the-stripes/2009/mar/05/tigers-work-out-for-nfl-scouts/

Saunders bench pressed 225 pounds 31 times. (The most reps any receiver at the combine put up was 27, by North Carolina’s Brooks Foster. In fact, Saunders benched more reps than any linebacker at the combine. I guess all those pushups are paying off.)

Moore was timed in the low 4.4 range in the 40-yard dash and clocked 4.39 on at least one reading, several people confirmed. If that time was consistent among the scouts Moore might have re-established himself as one of the two or three best safeties available. Also, Moore hit 36 ½ inches on the vertical jump.

Don’t forget about Wolfert. I’m still baffled by the lack of postseason honors and pre-draft attention the NCAA record-breaker has garnered over the last few months, but Wolfert had the indoor facility buzzing when he booted field goals, including one he nailed from 58 yards. Christopher handled the long snapping while Saunders was the holder.

Doesn't sound like Coffman is going to workout on Mizzou's 2nd pro day. Hopefully he can set up a late workout before the draft.

ThePudge
03-06-2009, 08:46 PM
I see the light now, hb. :)


I agree, his tools and his motor are the major draw for Hood.

I also think he'd look better with the Colts than maybe otherwise. He probably fits the defense well, and would benefit from Freeney and Mathis outside.

Yea, I mentioned the Colts and Buccaneers as two of the promising first round options. On film, I am not really all that crazy about Hood; however, there is no doubt he has been near flawless in pre-draft workouts and the Combine. He doesn't really dominate the way you'd like to see from a first round DT, but it is clear he has upside. Along with mid-late round option, Clinton McDonald (Memphis), & perhaps USC's Fili Moala, I think Evander Hood is the best fit as a Tampa 2 defense in this class due to his technicality and quickness inside. A high-upside player that will be over-drafted but may be a better pro than college player.

Woody56
03-06-2009, 08:59 PM
TCU C Blake Schlueter tore it up

Schlueter (6-2 3/8, 290 pounds) ran the 40-yard dash in 4.7 seconds, had a 35-inch vertical jump, a 9-foot-3-inch long jump, a 4.28-second short shuttle, and a 7.42-second three-cone drill.


That's the fastest 40 i've ever seen attached to a center. Seems like a guy the ZBS teams will be very intrigued by.

etk
03-06-2009, 10:33 PM
Yea, I mentioned the Colts and Buccaneers as two of the promising first round options. On film, I am not really all that crazy about Hood; however, there is no doubt he has been near flawless in pre-draft workouts and the Combine. He doesn't really dominate the way you'd like to see from a first round DT, but it is clear he has upside. Along with mid-late round option, Clinton McDonald (Memphis), & perhaps USC's Fili Moala, I think Evander Hood is the best fit as a Tampa 2 defense in this class due to his technicality and quickness inside. A high-upside player that will be over-drafted but may be a better pro than college player.

Buccaneers, Tampa 2 defense. Someone hasn't been keeping up with the latest news and changes surrounding the team.

DJC
03-09-2009, 07:29 PM
Michael Johnson clocked in unofficially in the 4.49-4.59 range at his pro day.

Brent
03-09-2009, 08:35 PM
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/04/aggies-qb-mcgee-shines-in-texas-am-pro-day/

Stephen McGee.

Remember this name because he could be a real sleeper in next month’s draft:

Certainly the 17 NFL scouts and one coach who showed up at Texas A&M’s pro day will remember the quarterback and his workout. The Aggies held their pro day on Wednesday, but it actually began with meet-and-greets Tuesday night at Wings-n-More in College Station, where scouts had an opportunity to conduct personal player interviews as well as ask questions of the A&M coaching staff.

The only non-scout at the pro day was Jaguars quarterbacks coach Mike Shula, who put McGee through QB drills. And let me tell you, McGee looked outstanding.

McGee, who ran the second-fastest 40 among quarterbacks at the combine (4.66), measured 6-2 7/8 and weighed 222 pounds, down 3 from his combine weigh-in.

Watch out for this kid on draft day.

I love it.

princefielder28
03-09-2009, 08:37 PM
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/04/aggies-qb-mcgee-shines-in-texas-am-pro-day/



I love it.

McGee has climbed to the #6 QB for me and it's too bad that he had Mike Sherman hurting his development this past season.

Brent
03-09-2009, 08:48 PM
McGee has climbed to the #6 QB for me and it's too bad that he had Mike Sherman hurting his development this past season.
What? McGee was hurt all year.

princefielder28
03-09-2009, 08:58 PM
What? McGee was hurt all year.

He did play sparingly though, and I can guarantee that being coached by Sherman didn't help him learn the game anymore than he already knew.

Brent
03-09-2009, 09:05 PM
He did play sparingly though, and I can guarantee that being coached by Sherman didn't help him learn the game anymore than he already knew.
He got hurt before the season in practice, played hurt until the New Mexico game when his injury got worse. He played a couple times the rest of the year but even McGee said that he never felt pain free over the course of the season.

ElectricEye
03-09-2009, 10:07 PM
Really think the NFL is dropping the ball on coverage this year, with pro days in particular. Georgia Tech had it's pro day today though

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/09/two-nfl-coaches-attend-georgia-techs-pro-day/
Georgia Tech’s pro day took place today in Atlanta, and officials from 26 NFL teams attended. That included two head coaches — the Carolina Panthers’ John Fox and the Atlanta Falcons’ Mike Smith.

The players ran outdoors on a very low FieldTurf surface, which produced faster-than-normal times.

Georgia Tech DE Michael Johnson was one of the hottest names at the pro day. Johnson, who has been projected as high as a middle to late first-round pick in mock drafts, looked very good working out as a down lineman and a linebacker. He showed he could drop into coverage and play in space.

Johnson measured in at 6-foot-6 7/8 and 266 pounds, and he had 40-yard dash times of 4.61 and 4.64 seconds. He did 23 repetitions on the bench press at 225 pounds, and he turned in a time of 7.42 seconds in the three-cone drill. He did not participate in the vertical jump or the 20- or 60-yard shuttle.

An offensive line coach for the Pittsburgh Steelers helped work out Georgia Tech OT Andrew Gardner. The lineman, who measured 6-6 1/4 and 305 pounds, ran the 40 in 4.99 and 4.96 seconds. He had a 30 1/2-inch vertical, an 8-11 broad jump, a 4.70-second 20-yard shuttle time and a 7.51-second three-cone drill time. He decided not to participate in the bench press.

Other notable Georgia Tech players who attended the combine included:

» Jahi Word-Daniels: The cornerback, who measured in at 6-0 1/8 and 191 pounds, had 40 times of 4.59 and 4.64 seconds. He had a 38-inch vertical leap and a 6.83-second time in the three-cone drill, but he didn’t participate in any other drills because of a left groin problem.

» Vance Walker: The defensive tackle measured in at 6-1 5/8 and 304 pounds, but he didn’t participate in any drills because of a right hamstring injury.

» Darryl Richard: The defensive tackle, who came in at 6-2 1/2 and 297 pounds, didn’t run the 40-yard dash, but he did everything else. He had a 26-inch vertical and put up 19 reps on the bench press. He had an 8-1 broad jump and times of 8.14 seconds in the three-cone drill and 4.97 seconds in the 20-yard shuttle.

» Tony Clark: The safety, who’s also being looked at for special teams, measured in at 6-0 1/2 and 207 pounds. His times in the 40 were 4.53 and 4.58 seconds, and he put up 17 reps on the bench press. He had a 32 1/2-inch vertical leap and was clocked at 6.98 seconds in the three-cone drill. His times in the 20- and 60-yard shuttle drills were 4.28 and 9.10 seconds, respectively.

– Gil Brandt

ThePudge
03-09-2009, 10:25 PM
I'm glad Michael Johnson played well, he's done nothing at all to play himself out of the first day. There's a chance he worked himself into the first again with an impressive day. Should make things more interesting. He right in that group along with Larry English and Robert Ayers as Mid 1st-Mid 2nd Rounders.

bored of education
03-10-2009, 09:03 AM
Liek I have said numerous times about Michael Johnson is he has the talent of being the 1st overall pick but at times plays like Mr. Irrelevant. He will get drafted based on his natural abilties and hopes someone can coach him and get him focused to play like that top 10 pick that he can be.

metafour
03-10-2009, 03:52 PM
I just got the results from Auburn's Pro Day:


RB/KR Tristan Davis 5-9 212 4.38 31.0 9-9 18

DT Tez Doolittle 6-2 285 4.92 29.5 8-8 22

LB Chris Evans 5-11 222 4.95 29.5 9-2 14

LB Steve Gandy 6-0 218 4.65 31.5 9-6 14

OG Tyronne Green 6-2 308 N/A 28.5 8-6 N/A

Ryan Hastie 5-11 239 4.85 34.5 9-5 17

LB/S Merrill Johnson 5-11 206 4.60 40.0 10-5.5 17

RB Brad Lester 5-9 190 4.48 38.5 10-4 18

DT Sen’Derrick Marks 6-1 301 N/A N/A 9-6 16

WR Charles Olatunji 6-1 194 4.62 37.5 11-1.5 14

CB Jerraud Powers 5-9 187 4.44 35.0 10-3 N/A

Robert Shiver 6-1 233 4.74 30.5 9-9 13

WR Rodgeriqus Smith 6-0 200 4.63 33.0 10-3 6

WR James Swinton 5-11 174 4.39 42.0 10-11 8

TE Cooper Wallace 6-3 254 N/A N/A N/A N/A

***Marks (hamstring) and Green (quad) were both working through injuries.

RWills
03-11-2009, 01:34 PM
Andre Smith I guess didnt look to good

'Andre Smith, one of the top offensive tackle prospects in this year’s draft, said he was relying on Alabama’s pro day to make up for the disappearing act he put on at the combine. Well, the first returns are not overly impressive.

His best 40-yard dash time was 5.28 seconds and he put up only 19 bench press lifts at 225 pounds. His 40 time would have not been among the top 10 performers at his position in the combine and his bench press reps would have put him well behind the top 10.

The rest of Smith and his Alabama teammates’ numbers from pro day will be in shortly on NFL.com'

Sniper
03-11-2009, 01:37 PM
Good...let him drop to 21.

Dark Knight01
03-11-2009, 01:57 PM
Andre Smith I guess didnt look to good

'Andre Smith, one of the top offensive tackle prospects in this year’s draft, said he was relying on Alabama’s pro day to make up for the disappearing act he put on at the combine. Well, the first returns are not overly impressive.

His best 40-yard dash time was 5.28 seconds and he put up only 19 bench press lifts at 225 pounds. His 40 time would have not been among the top 10 performers at his position in the combine and his bench press reps would have put him well behind the top 10.

The rest of Smith and his Alabama teammates’ numbers from pro day will be in shortly on NFL.com'




^^^How long are his arms and how big are his hands and what was his time in the short shuttle and 10 yard split?? How much did he weigh in at and how tall was he?

Or is everyone just concentrating on his bench?

jayceheathman
03-11-2009, 02:07 PM
I went to our Pro Day which was New Mexico State's and scouts for the Bills, Chargers, Cardinals, and Giants were there. Chase Holbrook didnt do anything since he did them at the Combine. Chris Williams is a beast but hopefully someone will take a chance on him. His drawback is his size. He is too little. He is like 5'9 180 pounds or so. Everyone was joking saying he was only going to get one rep of 225 and if he is lucky he will get 2. He got 13 which isnt too bad for a guy his size. He also had a ridiculous verticle. There werent too many sticks on the verticle board that he could have hit. He also ran a 4.33 40. I dont know why but they brought in a basketball player that graduated 2 years ago to test. He is tall at 6'9 and has good size but he is slower than I am and can barely do any reps at bench. Chris Nwoko who has the biggest arms I have ever seen got 25 reps at bench. There is a video on youtube of him squatting like 500 pounds a year or two ago and doing it with ease too.

gpngc
03-11-2009, 03:18 PM
^^^How long are his arms and how big are his hands and what was his time in the short shuttle and 10 yard split?? How much did he weigh in at and how tall was he?

Or is everyone just concentrating on his bench?

Really.

Who cares about his speed and muscular endurance?

Like 5.28 is BAD for a 320+ guy. lol

Dark Knight01
03-11-2009, 03:39 PM
Watch what happens with Andre Smith. He will slip to the 13-18 range in the draft and some average to solid football team will take him and he will be DOMINANT and be a starter for 10 years.

I can see it now….

Dark Knight01
03-11-2009, 03:55 PM
Sounds like smokescreen season is starting in regards to Andre Smith......

Dark Knight01
03-11-2009, 04:11 PM
Originally Posted by keylime_5
19 isnt' that bad, especially considering he has the longest arms of any tackle in this draft not named Phil Loadholt (who is 6'8", not 6'4" like Smith).....Eugene Monroe did 23 and Mike Oher did 21. I think if Cincinnati is as enamored with Andre come April as they reportedly were as recently as this past week, then I don't think it'll still be an instance of Smith not falling past pick #6 still. Either way the Smith thing has been blown out of proportion, he's still a top 10 lock IMO.




^^Like I said.....the SMOKESCREEN season has started with Andre Smith! LOL

superman
03-11-2009, 05:35 PM
i knew smith would put up disappointing bench numbers. he's just not dedicated enough. that what it shows more than strength. i'd be happy with him in the late 1st though.

ThePudge
03-11-2009, 06:07 PM
^^Like I said.....the SMOKESCREEN season has started with Andre Smith! LOL

I understand Smokescreens, you understand smokescreens, Bill Parcells' & company understood smokescreens, my girlfriend understands smokescreens, the Bengals, do not. It becomes clear every year who the Bengals are hoping to pick. In 2007 it was Jarvis Moss, so Denver traded right in front of them to grab Moss at 17. In 2008 it was Derrick Harvey, so Jacksonville traded right in front of them to grab Harvey at 8. There are definitely teams throwing smokescreens already, but don't count on Cincinnati as one of them.

kwilk103
03-11-2009, 06:43 PM
pat whites is 2morrow

etk
03-11-2009, 07:42 PM
I understand Smokescreens, you understand smokescreens, Bill Parcells' & company understood smokescreens, my girlfriend understands smokescreens, the Bengals, do not. It becomes clear every year who the Bengals are hoping to pick. In 2007 it was Jarvis Moss, so Denver traded right in front of them to grab Moss at 17. In 2008 it was Derrick Harvey, so Jacksonville traded right in front of them to grab Harvey at 8. There are definitely teams throwing smokescreens already, but don't count on Cincinnati as one of them.

Didn't they announce that they were drafting Carson Palmer weeks before the draft?

Cincinnati's scouting department is not the most patient group.

ThePudge
03-11-2009, 07:57 PM
Didn't they announce that they were drafting Carson Palmer weeks before the draft?

Cincinnati's scouting department is not the most patient group.

Cincinnati has basically a two man scouting group (The Tobin's) and they are hardly the decision makers. Because the team has a very small scouting group and no General Manager, you see the coaches as the talent evaluators and decision makers more so than most, if not any team.

Paul Alexander is great as the OL coach at evaluating talent and bringing guys is that fit his system. Mike Zimmer, Defensive Coordinator, really impressed me with a year ago and I hope that we continue to add defensive personnel as chosen by him. In the end, Marvin Lewis makes the final decisions, but he's just not interested in any smokescreens. The coaching staff they have and head coach (Lewis) are not bad drafters by any means, but there is definitely room for improvement and with the team looking at a likely ten draft choices this year, following a 4-11-1 season, this draft is as important as ever.

jayceheathman
03-12-2009, 03:03 AM
I will post my update on the New Mexico State Pro Day. Chris Williams ran a 4.33 his first run and I couldnt find out what he ran the second time but he ended up running a 4.28 40. I also knew he had a crazy verticle but I didnt know what it was this afternoon. It ended up being a 39 inch vertical. My vertical is probably more than half of that. The huge negative is.........he was listed at 5'7 169 pounds today. A guy weighing 169 pounds and benching 225 13 times is pretty impressive. I dont think he has the frame to gain weight either.

DiG
03-12-2009, 07:57 AM
From the Terps Pro Day yesterday:

"After running the fastest 40-yard dash at the combine (4.30 seconds), he opted not to do workout drills again Wednesday. Instead, he focused his attention on the position drills and he nailed that portion of the workout. He runs extremely smoothly and is adept at catching the ball."

http://blogs.nfl.com/category/pro-days/

"At pro workout, Heyward-Bey puts on show. At least 25 teams and as many as 40 NFL scouts or coaches were on campus to watch 24 draft-eligible Terps get timed, tested, weighed and measured.

Heyward-Bey's agent, Ben Dogra, said the Ravens will visit March 23 to work out the 6-foot-3 burner - and they'll bring quarterback Joe Flacco along to throw to him.

The Philadelphia Eagles have also arranged a workout in College Park, and three more teams - the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, St. Louis Rams and Vikings - have extended invitations to Heyward-Bey."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/football/bal-sp.heywardbey12mar12,0,4952373.story

"At Maryland, wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey reportedly put on a show in positional drills."

http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/03/terps_fever_wr_heyward-bey_daz.html

Other notes:

Isaiah Williams ran a 4.38. Williams also had the top time in the 60-yard shuttle in 11.10.

Cornerback Kevin Barnes (Old Mill) posted 40 times of 4.44 and 4.46, and tied Williams for the best vertical jump at 41 inches.

Defensive lineman Jeremy Navarre (Joppatowne) did 36 reps in the 225-pound bench press, the best of the day.

superman
03-12-2009, 08:25 AM
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bored of education
03-12-2009, 09:47 AM
DHB moving on up. He is such a beast.

SeanTaylorRIP
03-12-2009, 10:01 AM
I'm upset DHB didn't run another 40 because I know he could run in the low 4.2's but I guess when you run the fastest time at the combine there is no point in risking a pulled hammy or anything when there is no further to go up. Although a 4.22 or something would have been great.

superman
03-12-2009, 10:05 AM
I'm upset DHB didn't run another 40 because I know he could run in the low 4.2's but I guess when you run the fastest time at the combine there is no point in risking a pulled hammy or anything when there is no further to go up. Although a 4.22 or something would have been great.

or he didn't know he could run in the 4.2's

ElectricEye
03-12-2009, 10:05 AM
I'm upset DHB didn't run another 40 because I know he could run in the low 4.2's but I guess when you run the fastest time at the combine there is no point in risking a pulled hammy or anything when there is no further to go up. Although a 4.22 or something would have been great.

I was going to say that as well. Not a bad move for him at all, but it would have been cool to see a 4.2 something haha.

As far as Andre Smith goes, don't think it's anywhere near as bad as people are saying. Not great numbers by any means, but the 40 really isn't that bad. The weight he shed and his arm length are all positive things to take out of this as I've read other places that he looked pretty good in position drills. Not the best pro day for a tackle by any means, but it's been pretty clear from the start of things that Smith isn't a workout warrior.

ThePudge
03-12-2009, 11:29 AM
Ohio U's Pro Day starts in a bit more than an hour. I think I may be the only student in attendance. There will be four names I will be keeping a close eye on:

Cornerback Mark Parson is the main event after being nationally recognized as one of the NFL Combine's most notable snubs. Parson is listed in the 5'9 193 range and I expect times right around 4.50, perhaps a shade above or below. I think Parson will run a nice 20 yard and 60 yard shuttle and may be able to turn in a good 3-Cone. I will be watching his positional drills very closely.

TE/H-B/FB Andrew Mooney is undersized, expected around 6'1 1/2 249 or so and expected to run in the 4.9-5.0 range. He is a great pass-catcher though and a willing blocker, may be a nice pickup for a team as an UDFA.

TE/H-B David Carter and DE Jameson Hartke will also be watched closely (by me at least)

I'll post a full report including the teams/DB coaches I observed. Cold day here in Athens and I have a strong feeling that I'm going to be dressed much differently from the scouting crowd (I don't own any windbreakers or visors, sorry.)

OregonDucks
03-12-2009, 11:52 AM
What time is oregon's pro day today?

THav916
03-12-2009, 12:12 PM
From the Terps Pro Day yesterday:

Other notes:

Isaiah Williams ran a 4.38. Williams also had the top time in the 60-yard shuttle in 11.10.

Cornerback Kevin Barnes (Old Mill) posted 40 times of 4.44 and 4.46, and tied Williams for the best vertical jump at 41 inches.

Defensive lineman Jeremy Navarre (Joppatowne) did 36 reps in the 225-pound bench press, the best of the day.


Do you have more info and numbers on Navarre? Watching him play this past season I thought he was a great 3-4 DE prospect. Then saw him pretty low ranked and then not invited to the combine. Think he could be a late round steal but I'm interested in his other official numbers. Thanks!

Matthew Jones
03-12-2009, 12:41 PM
Sen'Derrick Marks 16 reps at 301 is pretty low.

Dark Knight01
03-12-2009, 12:57 PM
Yep! I agree this whole Andre Smith bashing thing is getting old and being completely thrown out of proportion and I smell other fans (and scouts) from other teams that are in the 13-20 range are trying to bash him hard to create some SMOKESCREENS so that he can slip into the middle of or even end of the 1st Round to their team?

Guess what folks....that aint gonna happen.

Andre Smith will be a top 10 pick and will not be receiving top 5 money and he will be starter as a RT for some team. His position work outs were just fine and some people are ripping him because he didn't have the body of Atlas. Charles Davis and Mike Mayock both stated his position workouts were solid.

He is a freakin O-Linemen people and what O-Linemen is supposed to have the body of a greek god? What matters is can he play football and dominate at the line of scrimmage? Yes and yes....

Geo
03-12-2009, 02:12 PM
Personally I don't see the point of drafting a RT with a Top 10 pick.

kwilk103
03-12-2009, 02:46 PM
MORGANTOWN, W. Va. — West Virginia’s Pro Day has drawn representatives from 25 NFL teams, most to get a deeper evaluation of multi-faceted quarterback Pat White.

White did not participate in any of the strength or running drills, choosing to stand on his draft combine performances in those realms.

Several teams came here today planning on watching White throw and partake in receiver drills, since he could have to transition to wideout in the NFL. White told me before the field drills started what he has been saying all along — that he planned only to throw, but that he would run routes upon request. Well, after he finished throwing, it turned out that’s all he did. In fact, the majority of the people who were there to watch White left after he threw and weren’t waiting to see him do anything but throw.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/12/white-draws-25-reps-at-west-virginia-pro-day/

ThePudge
03-12-2009, 04:10 PM
From Ohio University's Pro Day - It was the Mark Parson show, he weighed in at 5090 186. He only ran a 4.53 (hand-timed), but his shuttle (3.99) and 3-Cone (6.67) were extremely impressive and both would have been in the Top 5 in Indianapolis. I had his 60-Yard shuttle at 11.10, would have been very close to the top at the Combine. He nearly jumped through the roof, not sure on the exact vert, but it was in the 40" realm, would have been Top 5 at the Combine without doubt. He added an impressive 9'11 broad jump. I believe I saw him do twelve reps on the bench, but I didn't write it down. He was all smiles at time and really knew he had a great workout at times. You could see he wanted 10'0 in that broad jump though and he also wanted a better 40 and showing on the bench. He really prepared well through Deion Sanders' "Prime U."

The Colts, Panthers, Bengals, Browns, Chargers, Saints, Jets, Rams, and Lions were in attendance. I'll take a look at the team webpages to try to match a name to the faces. The Panthers scout/coach and Jets scout/coach put Parson through his drills, while the Colts, Bengals, Browns, Chargers, and Lions watched him closely. He did very well in those drills and looked very quick, very fluid, and was very quick in his backpedal and transitions. Even in the 40 degree weather, he caught the ball well adjusting perfectly to a number of balls and catching the ball away from his body. He dropped only one throw. As a whole I was very impressed.

Andrew Mooney measured in at 6020 226 which takes away any chance at Tight End. He worked out mainly at H-B. He benched 225 21 times, added a 40 in the 4.78 area, and looked very good catching the ball in drills. He has very natural hands and simply does not drop passes or let them get into his body. Still, as an athlete he is not very sudden and his routes were nothing too crisp. His role, if he gets the chance, will be at H-B in the NFL. He looked very lean though and needs to get back to at least 240. Once again, the Panthers and Jets put him through the drills.

haha I was the only non-football player, scout, of football coach there. It was extremely awkward.

Geo
03-12-2009, 04:16 PM
I would love for the Colts to draft Parson in the mid-rounds.

ThePudge
03-12-2009, 04:22 PM
I would love for the Colts to draft Parson in the mid-rounds.

Earlier I said I thought he was a mid-late round guy. After watching today very closely, I'll admit, I was wrong. I think he'll start receiving consideration in the Late 2nd and will be off the board by the Mid 4th. The Colts scout/coach watched Parson closely through his drills and was right there timing the 40s. The Bengals scout was getting the 20 yard times, and the Browns getting the 10 yard splits. In the end, they all compiled their information. Interesting the Colts scout was not inside the weight room to see the vertical or broad jump and showed up once the pro day moved outside.

Just to add to what I said earlier about the Rams being in attendance. While that is true, that scout was concerned more with the underclassmen working out and wasn't watching Parson or Mooney.

kwilk103
03-12-2009, 04:57 PM
from pft

WHITE’S WORKOUT FOCUSES ON QUARTERBACK
Posted by Mike Florio on March 12, 2009, 4:59 p.m. EDT
Prior to his Scouting Combine performance last month, West Virginia quarterback Pat White said that he’d work out as both a pass thrower and pass catcher during his Pro Day routine in Morgantown.

After a head-turning performance with his arm in Indy, White’s hands weren’t a focal point on Thursday in Morgantown.

White, who participated in none of the running drills, consistently delivered the ball into the hands and chests of former Mountaineer teammates, looking as poised and consistent as he did in Indianapolis.

On several throws, the ball had a loud pop when it connected with the receiver.

In one specific instance, the left-hander delivered a deep ball along the right sideline, which was hauled in by receiver Dorrell Jalloh. A fairly loud wave of applause immediately erupted. (And not just from me.)

Steve Wyche of NFL.com reports that White ran some pass routes on request. But that apparently happened after I decided to hit the road back to PFT Headquarters after the non-quarterback drills.

Wyche also reports that 25 NFL teams were represented at the West Virginia Pro Day. We personally spotted Steelers coach Mike Tomlin (who apparently always attends the WVU Pro Day, given its proximity to Pittsburgh), Bears director of college scouting Greg Gabriel, and scouts sporting the colors and logos of the Chiefs, Panthers, Packers, Vikings, Bills, Packers, Raiders, 49ers, Eagles, Giants, Ravens, Bills, and Jets.

The Panthers had two or three guys who were keeping a close eye on White as he threw passes.

Dark Knight01
03-12-2009, 07:03 PM
Personally I don't see the point of drafting a RT with a Top 10 pick.



If he is a potentially DOMINATING RT than why would it matter anyway?

He would only play the RT spot if a team already has an adequate LT anyway.

Scouts, GM's/Personnel guys and Owners and are going to back to study GAME FILM on these players anyways.

keylime_5
03-13-2009, 12:07 PM
early word is that Beanie ran a lot faster in his 40 at his pro day today. Laurinaitis and Jenkins and Robiskie ran about the same as the combine though I think.

4.39 for Wells.

DiG
03-13-2009, 12:23 PM
might quite some of the beanie haters for a little bit but they wont be gone long. hes hands down the best back in this draft.

ThePudge
03-13-2009, 12:24 PM
early word is that Beanie ran a lot faster in his 40 at his pro day today. Laurinaitis and Jenkins and Robiskie ran about the same as the combine though I think.

4.39 for Wells.

I'm not surprised. Wells moves unbelievably well for his size. Some will point to Ohio State's fast track, but considering the similarity between Malcolm's, Robiskie's, Laurinaitis', Hartline's, etc. times, I'm not sure that made a huge impact. Wells is a bit lazy and it's not entirely impossible that he was out of shape at the Combine. I always felt he was right around a 4.4-4.45 guy on the field. Once his other numbers (that can't really be skewed) surface, we'll get a better idea.

P-L
03-13-2009, 12:34 PM
Rumor has it that Will Johnson put up 225 47 times today. That is crazy if true.

turbojeff
03-13-2009, 12:56 PM
From Ohio University's Pro Day - It was the Mark Parson show, he weighed in at 5090 186. He only ran a 4.53 (hand-timed), but his shuttle (3.99) and 3-Cone (6.67) were extremely impressive and both would have been in the Top 5 in Indianapolis. I had his 60-Yard shuttle at 11.10, would have been very close to the top at the Combine. He nearly jumped through the roof, not sure on the exact vert, but it was in the 40" realm, would have been Top 5 at the Combine without doubt. He added an impressive 9'11 broad jump. I believe I saw him do twelve reps on the bench, but I didn't write it down. He was all smiles at time and really knew he had a great workout at times. You could see he wanted 10'0 in that broad jump though and he also wanted a better 40 and showing on the bench. He really prepared well through Deion Sanders' "Prime U."

The Colts, Panthers, Bengals, Browns, Chargers, Saints, Jets, Rams, and Lions were in attendance. I'll take a look at the team webpages to try to match a name to the faces. The Panthers scout/coach and Jets scout/coach put Parson through his drills, while the Colts, Bengals, Browns, Chargers, and Lions watched him closely. He did very well in those drills and looked very quick, very fluid, and was very quick in his backpedal and transitions. Even in the 40 degree weather, he caught the ball well adjusting perfectly to a number of balls and catching the ball away from his body. He dropped only one throw. As a whole I was very impressed.

Andrew Mooney measured in at 6020 226 which takes away any chance at Tight End. He worked out mainly at H-B. He benched 225 21 times, added a 40 in the 4.78 area, and looked very good catching the ball in drills. He has very natural hands and simply does not drop passes or let them get into his body. Still, as an athlete he is not very sudden and his routes were nothing too crisp. His role, if he gets the chance, will be at H-B in the NFL. He looked very lean though and needs to get back to at least 240. Once again, the Panthers and Jets put him through the drills.

haha I was the only non-football player, scout, of football coach there. It was extremely awkward.

How did Jameson Hartke look?

Solomon
03-13-2009, 01:21 PM
Didn't see anybody else mention it so here goes:

Oregon's pro day was a nice show.

Disappointing but I guess Jairus Byrd didn't participate. Hopefully he can run before the draft.

DE/LB Nick Reed who has arguably been the most productive DE in the country over the past two seasons made up for being snubbed from the combine. Measured in at 6-1, 245 lbs and ran a 4.71 40 (faster than expected), had a 31.5 inch vertical and put up 24 reps. His agility drills were excellent, 4.27 short shuttle and 6.96 three cone drill. While still small he is faster and far more agile than most people gave him credit for. With this showing some teams may give him a hard look at LB in a 3-4 scheme.

WR Jaison Williams was 6-4, 231 lbs and ran a fantastic 4.47 40 with a 36.5 inch vert and a 6.97 three cone drill. If he can improve his hands he could really be a draft gem for somebody. I wonder how he looked in pass catching drills...

Patrick Chung chose not to run the 40 or do the bench press but he had previously done both and performed well at the combine so that's a bit of a moot point.

http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=3691710&db_oem_id=500

abaddon41_80
03-13-2009, 01:36 PM
Rumor has it that Will Johnson put up 225 47 times today. That is crazy if true.

Holy &*%$ :eek:

Sniper
03-13-2009, 01:50 PM
Rumor has it that Will Johnson put up 225 47 times today. That is crazy if true.

ZOMGZ BARWISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

Good for Will, if true.

ThePudge
03-13-2009, 01:57 PM
How did Jameson Hartke look?

Hartke, I believe measured in at 6045 266. Physically he looked as if he belonged among a not overly impressive crop of players. He put up 21 reps in the bench press. All eyes were typically on Mark Parson though, so I do not have Hartke's shuttle or 3-Cone times even though I watched. His 40 was somewhere in the 4.78-4.81 range, hand-timed. He's definitely a Defensive End though, none of the Outside Linebacker talk seemed to hold much water yesterday. He's big, his frame could easily add more, and it will probably need to as he isn't all too sudden or explosive athletically and his change of direction (as showed by his 3-Cone and positional drills) is not all too strong. He still has some ability though, some physical potential, and I wouldn't be shocked if a 4-3 team gave him a call after the draft on April 26th-27th. His workout, like Mooney's, probably did little to affect his stock in a positive or negative way.

Mark Parson had the day's best workout, DT Jacob Williamson probably checked in with the worst. Williamson looked ok in the positional drills and is a solid football player on the field, but he just does not test well. He put up only 11 reps at 6020 275, jumped a bit sideways in the broad jump, actually landing on the measuring tape and falling, the jump itself was no more than 7'6 or so at best, in the 3-Cone drill he tripped and knocked over the final cone...twice in a row. Perhaps nerves got to him, he simply never looked at home all day.

thetedginnshow
03-13-2009, 02:25 PM
Patrick Chung chose not to run the 40 or do the bench press but he had previously done both and performed well at the combine so that's a bit of a moot point.

Not a moot point because he said at the combine he'd do the 40 again at his pro day. He's a liar!

ThePudge
03-13-2009, 02:44 PM
Not a moot point because he said at the combine he'd do the 40 again at his pro day. He's a liar!

Ah, nevermind that last post. I misread information on another site and local newspaper. Turns out Chung didn't run the 40.

Nick Reed with a nice workout.

Dark Knight01
03-13-2009, 02:47 PM
Hmm...I think Andre Smith got suckered into taking his shirt off by a team in the 13-22 range.

Why haven't we seen BJ Raji run with his shirt off??

He is shorter and fatter than Smith and probably has bigger man boobs than Smith! LOL

Matthew Jones
03-13-2009, 03:43 PM
Personally I don't see the point of drafting a RT with a Top 10 pick.

Just as left tackles are becoming somewhat overvalued, right tackles are becoming seriously undervalued. I made a post about this before, and here's what I said, basically: you read about teams that need an end "opposite" someone else - that's because teams don't pass rush from just one side of the field anymore. The successful teams get pressure from both sides. Giants (Tuck, Umenyiora), Colts (Freeney/Mathis), Patriots (Seymour, Warren), Steelers (Woodley/Harrison), etc. all do it, and teams are gonna start copying them. Right tackle is almost as important as left tackle nowadays because everyone has or will soon have two good pass rushers.

ThePudge
03-13-2009, 03:48 PM
Just as left tackles are becoming somewhat overvalued, right tackles are becoming seriously undervalued. I made a post about this before, and here's what I said, basically: you read about teams that need an end "opposite" someone else - that's because teams don't pass rush from just one side of the field anymore. The successful teams get pressure from both sides. Giants (Tuck, Umenyiora), Colts (Freeney/Mathis), Patriots (Seymour, Warren), Steelers (Woodley/Harrison), etc. all do it, and teams are gonna start copying them. Right tackle is almost as important as left tackle nowadays because everyone has or will soon have two good pass rushers.

Very true. Long-time Bengals Right Tackle Willie Anderson was drafted in the Top 10 and he became a stalwart on that line for over a decade, making several Pro Bowls and I believe a couple All-Pro lists as a RT. Needless to say, Anderson was well worth his Top 10 pick. If I could take Andre Smith in that area, stick him at Right Tackle for the next ten years+, I would consider it an enormous success. I like how people pretend Right Tackle is just a bit more important than a Long Snapper haha

nepg
03-13-2009, 05:29 PM
Just as left tackles are becoming somewhat overvalued, right tackles are becoming seriously undervalued. I made a post about this before, and here's what I said, basically: you read about teams that need an end "opposite" someone else - that's because teams don't pass rush from just one side of the field anymore. The successful teams get pressure from both sides. Giants (Tuck, Umenyiora), Colts (Freeney/Mathis), Patriots (Seymour, Warren), Steelers (Woodley/Harrison), etc. all do it, and teams are gonna start copying them. Right tackle is almost as important as left tackle nowadays because everyone has or will soon have two good pass rushers.

It really depends on the individual players and the blocking schemes and offenses that teams run. LT's need to be the total package because they're on their own most of the time. You need many different skill sets out of them, which is more rare, which makes them more valuable. With RT's, most teams use TE's as blockers most of the time, so they don't need all of the skills in their RT that they look for in their LT... Mostly, they just want a big, strong, mauler... Not much athleticism or intelligence required for the most part...

But then, when you have a weak draft class or just a great prospect, or both.... A guy like Jordan Gross becomes a great option as a high pick.
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Michigan
03-13-2009, 06:42 PM
A poster on Michigan's scout boards claims that Carson Butler ran a 4.47 @ 6'5 261. Even if that gets adjusted, it's an incredible time for his size. He did absolutely nothing his senior year, but if these numbers are true a team may take a flier on him in the middle rounds.

superman
03-13-2009, 08:59 PM
well, unless the qb is left handed, the left tackle is way more important because it's the qb's blind side and he just needs to trust the lt more

goblue8888
03-13-2009, 09:16 PM
No surprise about butler, he's an absolute freak and a first round talent but is an absolute idiot. Also, no surprise about Will Johnson, Barwis said he's the strongest he has ever seen by far.

P-L
03-13-2009, 09:16 PM
A poster on Michigan's scout boards claims that Carson Butler ran a 4.47 @ 6'5 261. Even if that gets adjusted, it's an incredible time for his size. He did absolutely nothing his senior year, but if these numbers are true a team may take a flier on him in the middle rounds.
The 4.47 doesn't even surprise me for Butler. He's always been an fantastic physical talent he just doesn't have the head to match it.

Sniper
03-13-2009, 11:46 PM
The 4.47 doesn't even surprise me for Butler. He's always been an fantastic physical talent he just doesn't have the head to match it.

What could have been....

ThePudge
03-13-2009, 11:54 PM
The 4.47 doesn't even surprise me for Butler. He's always been an fantastic physical talent he just doesn't have the head to match it.

I used to fear Butler and like many Michigan fans, thought he'd be a first round pick in time. I'm surprised nothing really ever came of Carson Butler, a name I watched closely when viewing Wolverines games. Looks like a poor-man's Ben Watson. Watson, of course, accomplished more in college and was the better prospect, but similar skill-sets and downfalls.

Sniper
03-13-2009, 11:59 PM
I used to fear Butler and like many Michigan fans, thought he'd be a first round pick in time. I'm surprised nothing really ever came of Carson Butler, a name I watched closely when viewing Wolverines games. Looks like a poor-man's Ben Watson. Watson, of course, accomplished more in college and was the better prospect, but similar skill-sets and downfalls.

If only Butler would have learned to catch, run routes, block and not false start...

goblue8888
03-14-2009, 12:01 AM
Here's a picture of Johnson from Michigan's website...
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z266/goblue8888/johnson-031309_300.jpg

Talk about a cut dude for a DT.

ThePudge
03-14-2009, 12:06 AM
If only Butler would have learned to catch, run routes, block and not false start...

I imagine he would have done better in a school with less academic standards, where he could have at least put more time/effort into football. It's a shame he didn't stay long enough to even get a degree at UM. Makes me wonder where Carson Butler will be five years from now.

PACKmanN
03-14-2009, 12:20 AM
Here's a picture of Johnson from Michigan's website...
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z266/goblue8888/johnson-031309_300.jpg

Talk about a cut dude for a DT.

wow, his arms are bigger then his chest. weak.

Michigan
03-14-2009, 12:34 AM
wow, his arms are bigger then his chest. weak.

Because you can tell everything from that angle. :rolleyes:

P-L
03-14-2009, 08:23 AM
Terrence Taylor also improved his 40. He ran a 5.06 and 5.09.

OaklandRaider56
03-14-2009, 11:54 AM
Rylan Reed, an intriguing late round OT, got 44 reps on bench but injured his knee running the 40.

ThePudge
03-14-2009, 01:41 PM
Rylan Reed, an intriguing late round OT, got 44 reps on bench but injured his knee running the 40.

He, apparently, was having a great workout before the unfortunate knee injury. 6'5 1/2 309, 41* Bench Reps, then rushed to the hospital after his first 40 attempt. Was starting to look like a real draftable prospect.

Darcel McBath, an underrated Safety prospect, performed well too. He measured in at 6'0 5/8 200, ran a 4.53 and 4.54, put up 225 a fairly impressive 17 times, and had a 10 foot broad jump.

Woody56
03-14-2009, 02:19 PM
He, apparently, was having a great workout before the unfortunate knee injury. 6'5 1/2 309, 41* Bench Reps, then rushed to the hospital after his first 40 attempt. Was starting to look like a real draftable prospect.

Darcel McBath, an underrated Safety prospect, performed well too. He measured in at 6'0 5/8 200, ran a 4.53 and 4.54, put up 225 a fairly impressive 17 times, and had a 10 foot broad jump.

Reed didn't have a shot at being drafted. Not because he isn't one of the better ot's in the draft, he is, but teams don't draft 28 year olds.

Geo
03-15-2009, 11:04 AM
Per Gil Brandt at NFL.com:
DT Alex Magee (6-foot-2 3/8, 286 pounds) ran a 4.82 and 4.85 in the 40, had a 9-foot, 5-inch broad jump, a 4.42 short shuttle, a 7.15 three-cone drill and kept his bench press from the combine.
Probably no chance he reaches the Colts' 3rd round pick now.

Also, I'm amazed Will Johnson put up 47 bench reps. Watching him play last season, I would have guessed 17 rather than 47.

Solomon
03-15-2009, 11:39 AM
Per Gil Brandt at NFL.com:

Probably no chance he reaches the Colts' 3rd round pick now.




I wouldn't be so sure about that. Seems like there are lots of smaller DTs with good measurables and the ability to penetrate this year (Jerry, Hood, Marks, Baker, Magee, Miller come immediately to mind) and it seems like most teams in the league which had previously played defensive schemes which required quicker DTs are now looking for the bigger space eater types. A couple of those guys might slide more than they would've in other years.

ThePudge
03-15-2009, 12:16 PM
Per Gil Brandt at NFL.com:

Probably no chance he reaches the Colts' 3rd round pick now.

Also, I'm amazed Will Johnson put up 47 bench reps. Watching him play last season, I would have guessed 17 rather than 47.

Just a name for you, Clinton McDonald from Memphis. In a standard 4-3, he's a likely late round pick, but in a Tampa 2 he could be worth as high as a 4th Round pick. I know Draftguys TV has a video on him if you want to check it out.

(http://draftguys.com/index.php/articles/dgtv_1/clinton_mcdonald_-_dt_-_memphis/)

He is one of the best penetrators and interior pass-rushers in this draft. Very quick, very explosive off the ball, uses his hands well to get into the backfield, comes with a top-notch motor, and has instincts. He is not all too adept anchoring against the run and is rather undersized, but he is a very underrated Defensive Tackle prospect that is not getting all too much hype yet. Since you are a Colts fan, keep an eye on him as your Tampa 2 gives him the best chance to succeed. I believe though, defense against the run is also really needed in Indianapolis so you may want to look at another DT as well if McDonald's on the list.

PACKmanN
03-15-2009, 12:50 PM
50 scouts showed up for Britton workout, wow.

PACKmanN
03-15-2009, 12:53 PM
Just a name for you, Clinton McDonald from Memphis. In a standard 4-3, he's a likely late round pick, but in a Tampa 2 he could be worth as high as a 4th Round pick. I know Draftguys TV has a video on him if you want to check it out.

(http://draftguys.com/index.php/articles/dgtv_1/clinton_mcdonald_-_dt_-_memphis/)

He is one of the best penetrators and interior pass-rushers in this draft. Very quick, very explosive off the ball, uses his hands well to get into the backfield, comes with a top-notch motor, and has instincts. He is not all too adept anchoring against the run and is rather undersized, but he is a very underrated Defensive Tackle prospect that is not getting all too much hype yet. Since you are a Colts fan, keep an eye on him as your Tampa 2 gives him the best chance to succeed. I believe though, defense against the run is also really needed in Indianapolis so you may want to look at another DT as well if McDonald's on the list.

reminds me a lot like Corey Williams.

d32003
03-15-2009, 02:14 PM
Has anyone heard of this Dewayne Lewis CB out of Southern Utah D1AA he is big fast..? I watched his pro day at BYU and the kid looked outstanding he ran a 4.29-4.30 and scouts were licking their chops!!!

d32003
03-15-2009, 02:19 PM
Has anyone heard of this Dewayne Lewis CB out of Southern Utah D1AA he is big fast..!!!? i saw him shut down the all american WR ramsas barden from cal poly the #1 WR in D1AA. I watched his pro day at BYU and the kid looked outstanding he ran a 4.29-4.30 and scouts were licking their chops!!!

abaddon41_80
03-16-2009, 11:25 AM
Does anyone know when Houston's pro day is? I am very interested to see what Phillip Hunt and Sebastian Vollmer do.

SeanTaylorRIP
03-16-2009, 01:07 PM
50 scouts showed up for Britton workout, wow.

No all those scouts were there to see can't miss QB prospect Willie Tuitama.

PACKmanN
03-16-2009, 01:20 PM
So how did Brown do today in FSU pro day?

BuddyCHRIST
03-16-2009, 02:20 PM
Its raining off and on in Tallahassee so I don't think he's run yet. He improved his vert to 34 inches.

Some other notes..

Michael Ray Garvin ran two sub 4.3 40's
Antone Smith ran a sub 4.3 40.
Greg Carr ran in the mid 4.5's
Kenny Ingram ran a mid 4.5
Tony Carter ran a sub 4.3

other people got runs in too, but I didn't think anyone would know them.

thetedginnshow
03-16-2009, 02:40 PM
MRG is a beast return man. I don't know how Smith ran a sub 4.3 though.

BigJohn98
03-16-2009, 03:09 PM
MRG is a beast return man. I don't know how Smith ran a sub 4.3 though.

Antone is fast. He's run in the 4.3s multiple times at FSU.

thetedginnshow
03-16-2009, 03:12 PM
Antone is fast. He's run in the 4.3s multiple times at FSU.

Really? I feel like he doesn't play very fast.

superman
03-16-2009, 06:51 PM
is fsu's track really fast? did brown run? i guess we could compare that.

goblue8888
03-16-2009, 07:59 PM
FWIW heres a video of Johnson doing 40 straight without a rest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct43q3mZNrA&feature=related

ThePudge
03-16-2009, 09:30 PM
FWIW heres a video of Johnson doing 40 straight without a rest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct43q3mZNrA&feature=related

I'd love to see Will Johnson (Michigan) vs. Mike Kudla (Ohio State) in a little bench off. Nice storyline there. After that video I'm not sure that Johnson couldn't take him. Kudla though was rumored to be in the 50s. Would be a great matchup.

CantStopGregJones
03-16-2009, 10:32 PM
I'd love to see Will Johnson (Michigan) vs. Mike Kudla (Ohio State) in a little bench off. Nice storyline there. After that video I'm not sure that Johnson couldn't take him. Kudla though was rumored to be in the 50s. Would be a great matchup.

The D-Bag at the combine told Kudla he broke the record so Kudla stopped when in all reallity he hadn;t broken the record the baffon who told him he did just didn't have a clue what he was talking about.

Rodya's Redemption
03-16-2009, 10:50 PM
any word on Tennessee's Pro Day? it was scheduled for the 11th but haven't heard a word...

superman
03-16-2009, 10:53 PM
any word on Tennessee's Pro Day? it was scheduled for the 11th but haven't heard a word...

bryce brown tried working out to get into the nfl this year

P-L
03-17-2009, 08:57 AM
Interesting fact: When Will Johnson's high school played my high school his senior year, three of our players were taken to the hospital with injuries. Our quarterback broke his jaw in three places, our starting running back broke his wrist, and one of our linebackers suffered a severe concussion.

CantStopGregJones
03-17-2009, 01:27 PM
Anyone hear anything about Eastern Michigan's pro day yet? I would like to know how T.J. Lang performed.

SeanTaylorRIP
03-17-2009, 02:11 PM
is fsu's track really fast? did brown run? i guess we could compare that.

Greg Carr ran in the 4.5's, enough said.

gpngc
03-17-2009, 02:12 PM
Shady McCoy ran a 4.50 and 4.52 apparently.

d32003
03-17-2009, 02:18 PM
The same source that sent us accurate pro day numbers for Wyoming tailback Devin Moore last weekend, informed us that former Southern Utah cornerback DeWayne Lewis, a Michigan State transfer (track), impressed scouts at B.Y.U.'s pro day on March 11 with the following times: 4.28 & 4.33/40 yard dash; 37" Vertical; 4.12 Short-shuttle; 7.09 3 cone... After the strong performance in Provo, the following N.F.L. teams showed a keen interest in learning more about the raw, but athletically gifted Lewis, who is regarded as a latter round/priority free agent type prospect: Indianapolis Colts, Denver Broncos, St. Louis Rams, Jacksonville Jaguars, Miami Dolphins and Cleveland Browns.

Geo
03-17-2009, 02:29 PM
Shady McCoy ran a 4.50 and 4.52 apparently.
LOL, Donald Brown is the only top RB in this class who can break 4.5. That's incredibly sad.

CJ Spiller should have declared.

Chachi
03-17-2009, 02:38 PM
LOL, Donald Brown is the only top RB in this class who can break 4.5. That's incredibly sad.

CJ Spiller should have declared.

Beanie Wells down?

4.38 and 4.39

Geo
03-17-2009, 02:41 PM
That was a fast track at tOSU. But you're right in that, if you add even a full tenth of a second to that 4.38 time, it still cracks in under 4.5.

Still, timed between 4.53 and 4.59 at the Combine. As for the Oil Drum being a "slow track", I don't completely buy it. More like an excuse by those who didn't time well, I think. Now the dozen broad jumps weakening Beanie's legs, maybe.

SeanTaylorRIP
03-17-2009, 02:49 PM
Hey I've had Donald Brown as my #1 RB once the underclassman deadline was announced.

Hines
03-17-2009, 03:01 PM
Anyone have Shady's measurements?

RWills
03-17-2009, 03:36 PM
What about West Virginia's Erik Lankster, Im am wondering how he graded out, he played real well at the senior bowl, after that I havent heard anything

wonderbredd24
03-17-2009, 04:41 PM
That was a fast track at tOSU. But you're right in that, if you add even a full tenth of a second to that 4.38 time, it still cracks in under 4.5.

Still, timed between 4.53 and 4.59 at the Combine. As for the Oil Drum being a "slow track", I don't completely buy it. More like an excuse by those who didn't time well, I think. Now the dozen broad jumps weakening Beanie's legs, maybe.

Connor Barwin mentioned on Scott's show that he thought it was a slightly slow track because it was so new. He ran about as fast as anyone so he does not have anything to gain by saying it. Just an honest opinion.

ElectricEye
03-17-2009, 09:37 PM
4.5 is a little surprising for Shady. Certainly plays faster than that.

LonghornsLegend
03-17-2009, 09:40 PM
LOL, Donald Brown is the only top RB in this class who can break 4.5. That's incredibly sad.

CJ Spiller should have declared.

Big boy Andre Brown can, watch him make some noise at the next level if he can stay healthy.


And I still really like McCoy, he's going to be a beast I have no doubt about it.

Hines
03-18-2009, 12:07 PM
Aaron Maybin did not participate in the bench press. His first 40-yard dash was mid-4.5 and second was low-4.6. His vertical jump was 40.5 inches and broad jump was 10-foot-10.


Just a little blurb about Aaron Maybin at his Pro Day.

Brent
03-18-2009, 01:37 PM
Ten NFL teams attended McNeese State’s recent Pro Day workout to watch offensive tackle Kyle Link and wide receiver Quinten Lawrence, according to Gil Brandt of NFL.com.

Lawrence had a strong workout with times of 4.42 and 4.43 seconds in the 40-yard dash, also bench pressing 225 pounds 21 times.

Lawrence, who’s listed at nearly 6-foot and weighs 190 pounds, reportedly "caught the ball extremely well." However, he didn’t perform the jumping or agility tests due to an undisclosed injury.
That's pretty good for a 6' WR.

Matthew Jones
03-18-2009, 01:45 PM
Aaron Maybin did not participate in the bench press. His first 40-yard dash was mid-4.5 and second was low-4.6. His vertical jump was 40.5 inches and broad jump was 10-foot-10.


Just a little blurb about Aaron Maybin at his Pro Day.

Wow, very impressive. I'd possibly start warming up to Maybin on the Patriots if he could run a 4.55 or 4.60 at 250 pounds. Any idea what his weight was?

Hines
03-18-2009, 01:46 PM
At the Penn State Pro Day, Derrick Williams ran between a 4.37 and a 4.41. I think his stock rises. Also, Mo Evans ran a 4.7 and put up 22 reps on the bench.

Hines
03-18-2009, 01:47 PM
Wow, very impressive. I'd possibly start warming up to Maybin on the Patriots if he could run a 4.55 or 4.60 at 250 pounds. Any idea what his weight was?

He weighed in at 253.

superman
03-18-2009, 01:49 PM
did i read a typo of did 191 lbs antoine smith really put up 31 bench reps? if true that more impressive than that 290 lbs guy putting it up 47 times.

Solomon
03-18-2009, 01:53 PM
did i read a typo of did 191 lbs antoine smith really put up 31 bench reps? if true that more impressive than that 290 lbs guy putting it up 47 times.

He did indeed. With those 40 times and bench press numbers it's easy to see why top programs were drooling to sign him out of high school.

Unfortunatly for him he doesn't play with that kind of speed or strength on the football field.

Solomon
03-18-2009, 01:56 PM
At the Penn State Pro Day, Derrick Williams ran between a 4.37 and a 4.41. I think his stock rises. Also, Mo Evans ran a 4.7 and put up 22 reps on the bench.

Very suspicious with Williams, Maybin and Evans all running about .2 seconds faster than at the combine. Huge discrepency there. I wonder how fast PSU's pro day track is? Maybe they ran on a hardwood surface outdoors with a wind at their backs, lol.

Crickett
03-18-2009, 01:59 PM
Very suspicious with Williams, Maybin and Evans all running about .2 seconds faster than at the combine. Huge discrepency there. I wonder how fast PSU's pro day track is? Maybe they ran on a hardwood surface outdoors with a wind at their backs, lol.


It does make it seem like there were some kind of shenanigans going on.

Matthew Jones
03-18-2009, 02:00 PM
Very suspicious with Williams, Maybin and Evans all running about .2 seconds faster than at the combine. Huge discrepency there. I wonder how fast PSU's pro day track is? Maybe they ran on a hardwood surface outdoors with a wind at their backs, lol.

Well, Evans and Maybin both bulked for the Combine, and Derrick Williams had the flu previously. If both ends dropped some weight and Williams was healthy, those numbers are more in line with what was expected. I had Maybin around 4.65, Evans around 4.70, and Williams around 4.40.

superman
03-18-2009, 02:05 PM
He did indeed. With those 40 times and bench press numbers it's easy to see why top programs were drooling to sign him out of high school.

Unfortunatly for him he doesn't play with that kind of speed or strength on the football field.

i agree. however i think he's a better hb than lorenzo booker and i didn't mind how booker filled in for ronnie brown 2 years ago. so i'd take smith late.


anybody know how many reps garvin had? i heard he was a lil beast too.

superman
03-18-2009, 02:17 PM
jesus christ

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a151/surf2k5/F513318.jpg

ThePudge
03-18-2009, 02:26 PM
Wow, very impressive. I'd possibly start warming up to Maybin on the Patriots if he could run a 4.55 or 4.60 at 250 pounds. Any idea what his weight was?

If those numbers are correct and he was at least, say, 240-245, you can pretty much kiss the Pats chances for Maybin goodbye at 23. I've said before, due to his fluidity and explosiveness athletically, despite being raw, I think he is the best fit as a 3-4 OLB among the top 3 DE/LB's (Orakpo/Brown/Maybin.) His Combine performance was portrayed in the wrong light after running a poor 40 time due to the weight he rapidly gained. Give him time to physically mature, perhaps plan on starting Maybin in year two. Still, a very impressive day for him even if he ran a 4.7.

He could receive consideration earlier than many think. Still, the earliest I think he could go is 9th Overall to Green Bay. San Francisco at 10 and Denver at 12. After that, the need for a 3-4 OLB dwindles and 23 to New England remains a distant but mentionable possibility.

keylime_5
03-18-2009, 02:56 PM
Maybin should be a solid top 15 pick still. Williams was interesting b/c he was sick at the combine, but after his senior bowl he was considered an early to mid second rounder. I think he'll be taken somewhere in that second round, depends on how much of a run on WRs there is in the 2nd round. I think those 6 guys who have first round talk plus Robiskie should go before DW.

thule
03-18-2009, 03:44 PM
jesus christ

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a151/surf2k5/F513318.jpg

huge wow........

BuffaloBillsDraft
03-18-2009, 03:49 PM
252 lbs.He's definitely bigger, and now Aaron Maybin can officially say he is faster than he was a month ago.

Maybin, the former PSU defensive end who declared for the NFL draft following his redshirt sophomore season, ran the 40-yard dash in 4.59 seconds this morning during PSU's Pro Day workout on campus.

The 6-4 Maybin has also gained 25 pounds since the middle of January, bulking up from 227 to 252. At the NFL scouting combine last month, Maybin's 40 time was in the mid-4.7 range.

Maybin's 40 time was confirmed to The Patriot-News by a source close to the player. Maybin ran the 40 twice for NFL scouts. He was clocked in 4.63 on his first run.http://blog.pennlive.com/bobflounders/2009/03/maybin_significantly_lowers_40.html

SchizophrenicBatman
03-18-2009, 04:00 PM
Bradley Pierson ran a 4.44 on grass at NC State's pro day. For comparison, our starting CB last year ran a 4.83 and starting LB a 4.97. Pierson was the kicker

Both A. Hill and A. Brown sat on their combine numbers and did drills

B-Dawk
03-18-2009, 05:44 PM
who is that a picture of?

iBoldin
03-18-2009, 05:48 PM
who is that a picture of?

Michael Ray Garvin.

yourfavestoner
03-18-2009, 06:06 PM
Pro Days (http://blogs.nfl.com/category/pro-days/)
Harvin showcases skills at Florida’s pro day (http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/18/harvin-showcases-skills-at-floridas-pro-day/)

Posted: March 18th, 2009 | NFL.com Staff | Tags: Cornelius Ingram (http://blogs.nfl.com/tag/cornelius-ingram/), Florida (http://blogs.nfl.com/tag/florida/), Percy Harvin (http://blogs.nfl.com/tag/percy-harvin/)
Wide receiver Percy Harvin (http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/percy-harvin?id=80425) was the headliner at Florida’s pro day today in Gainesville. A slew of wide receiver coaches came out to watch Harvin perform, and Vikings vice president of player personnel Rick Spielman, Panthers general manager Marty Hurney, and Bucs GM Mark Dominik and coach Raheem Morris also were in attendance.
Harvin (5-foot-11 3/4, 193 pounds) did not disappoint. He kept his running-drill numbers from the combine, but he had a 37 1/2-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot, 1-inch broad jump and did 20 bench-press lifts. He looked exceptional in position drills and caught the ball well. He also showed great explosion

http://blogs.nfl.com/category/pro-days/

DJC
03-18-2009, 06:08 PM
http://www.fightingillini.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/031809aac.html
Despite working out at the combine, cornerback Vontae Davis, defensive lineman Will Davis and defensive lineman Derek Walker supplemented their previously posted numbers with their work outs today on campus. Vontae Davis improved on his vertical by an inch and half, registering at 37 ½ and ran a 4.35 in the 40. Will Davis ran a better 40 time than in Indianapolis, recording 4.83, and posted a 34 ½ in the vertical.

Vontae Davis wasn't the only player to post stellar 40 times. Will Judson broke the 4.4 range with his 4.31 on his first run, while Brit Miller twice posted a 4.56. Judson also showed exceptional athleticism in the vertical with a leap of 37 ½.

Solomon
03-18-2009, 06:56 PM
http://www.fightingillini.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/031809aac.html

Britt Miller ran a 4.56?! WTF. I thought he was a 4.8 or 4.9 guy in terms of speed based on how he plays.

etk
03-18-2009, 06:58 PM
Britt Miller ran a 4.56?! WTF. I thought he was a 4.8 or 4.9 guy in terms of speed based on how he plays.

For once sweetness was right about something between his Illinois homerism. He was saying Miller is faster than Leman for a while, although I don't think he expected a sub 4.6.

holt_bruce81
03-18-2009, 07:03 PM
http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/pro_day_coffman_still_not_ready_to_go_31609.html

Tight End Chase Coffman informs the NFL Draft Bible that he will not be ready to perform for Missouri’s second Pro Day, which is being held this Thursday (March 19).

“I haven’t run in so long and if I re-injure it (foot), I’m in a real bad situation,” Coffman wrote in a text message. The tight end has to be smart and risking further injury would not be a wise move, nevertheless it does not relieve any of his frustration, as the competition is able to perform while he is forced to stand on the sidelines.

If true, that stinks.

Sniper
03-18-2009, 07:39 PM
At the Penn State Pro Day, Derrick Williams ran between a 4.37 and a 4.41. I think his stock rises. Also, Mo Evans ran a 4.7 and put up 22 reps on the bench.

Michigan's 5'8", 200 pound strong safety Brandon Harrison outbenched Evans. Ha.

JRTPlaya21
03-18-2009, 08:07 PM
That't too bad with Coffman. And why does it seem like so many of the big name prospects just can't lift much?

Mr. Hero
03-18-2009, 08:22 PM
That't too bad with Coffman. And why does it seem like so many of the big name prospects just can't lift much?

A lot of lankier guys with long arms have a harder time with the bench press than your more compact players and the 225 pound bench press measures muscle endurance and not explosiveness, which is often the type of strength that gets guys noticed.

UTPATS
03-18-2009, 08:47 PM
Very suspicious with Williams, Maybin and Evans all running about .2 seconds faster than at the combine. Huge discrepency there. I wonder how fast PSU's pro day track is? Maybe they ran on a hardwood surface outdoors with a wind at their backs, lol.

Williams RAN away from any corner he faced at the Senior Bowl, that's enough for me!

Sniper
03-18-2009, 08:59 PM
Williams RAN away from any corner he faced at the Senior Bowl, that's enough for me!

You'd be a terrible scout. Williams didn't separate from any corners in the Big 10 for four years, but all you care about is the Senior Bowl? Mmk. Didn't he only have like, 2 catches for 20 yards at the Senior Bowl?

CantStopGregJones
03-18-2009, 09:06 PM
good lord where did 4.56 come from out of Britt Miller? :eek: He definitely knows how to play football too. Does he get drafted now?

ElectricEye
03-18-2009, 09:14 PM
4.5 for Miller? Even adjusted a tenth that's pretty good. Jeez.

Also; Maybin helped himself a ton.

UTPATS
03-18-2009, 09:43 PM
You'd be a terrible scout. Williams didn't separate from any corners in the Big 10 for four years, but all you care about is the Senior Bowl? Mmk. Didn't he only have like, 2 catches for 20 yards at the Senior Bowl?

I was referring to the entire week of practice...

I think he has the talent to be a solid #2 in the league in a few years and could immediately help out a team this year, given the right situation.

We will just have to wait and see what happens.

gpngc
03-18-2009, 10:01 PM
You'd be a terrible scout. Williams didn't separate from any corners in the Big 10 for four years, but all you care about is the Senior Bowl? Mmk. Didn't he only have like, 2 catches for 20 yards at the Senior Bowl?

Except Vontae Davis last year in the Illinois game.

He's too explosive to not spend a draft pick on. Even if his main value is on special teams, he projects to be a heck of a return guy. Perfect wildcat guy too.

I'm starting to think he might be a good pick for Indy...

BUSTKUNTLAWL
03-18-2009, 10:04 PM
Except Vontae Davis last year in the Illinois game.

He's too explosive to not spend a draft pick on. Even if his main value is on special teams, he projects to be a heck of a return guy. Perfect wildcat guy too.

I'm starting to think he might be a good pick for Indy...

All the big plays Williams made in that game were when he was in the slot and got mismatches.

On one of Williams huge plays Martez Wilson was in coverage against him. And he is a LB.

JonIH87
03-18-2009, 11:53 PM
All the big plays Williams made in that game were when he was in the slot and got mismatches.


Imagine that. A guy everyone projects as a slot receiver made plays from the slot. I wonder why?

I'm not terribly high on Williams, but nearly everyone was RAVING about how good he was in the Senior Bowl.

Didn't Raji only have 1 tackle in the Senior Bowl? And it wasn't even solo! Why bother spending a draft pick on him?

I'm all for discussions and disagreements, but maybe next time whoever said that 2 catches for 20 yards crap will try to make their own personal agendas a little less easy to spot.

Solomon
03-19-2009, 12:00 AM
Cal pro day results in!

Thirty teams had a total of 50 representives to watch the event.

Headliner Alex Mack measured 6-4 and 307 lbs. He ran a 5.17 40 with a 28.5 inch vertical, 8 foot 10 inch broad jump, 4.75 short shuttle, 7.31 three-cone drill and 20 reps of 225 lbs.

According to Gil Brandt he "had a sensational workout in the position drills."

ElectricEye
03-19-2009, 12:11 AM
Imagine that. A guy everyone projects as a slot receiver made plays from the slot. I wonder why?

Making a plays on slow Big 10 linebackers is entirely different from making plays on nickelbacks who are probably just as quick as Williams in the NFL.

I just don't see anything Williams actually does well on a football field as a receiver besides run fast.

Big_Pete
03-19-2009, 01:06 AM
I find these trivial blanket statment very short sighted

alot of college players have better nfl careers; there are alot of factors including systems, coaching staff, and team talent that can also impact on college success.

It is safe to say that every nfl coaching staff is a heck of alot better than any college team. Is is fair to say that Williams didn't have a starting NFL calibre QB throwing to him either; or many other legitimate weapons in the passing game.

This is not to say Williams is a top talent; but he does have very good NFL cailbre tools and exceptional speed (a key ingredient). With hard work and good coaching he could have a very good NFL career.

People need to remember draft value does not always equate to talent and ability (although that is a factor), particularly in a very deep WR like we have this year.

ElectricEye
03-19-2009, 01:40 AM
Eh, Williams hasn't shown me any kind of things on a football field that deserve much more than skimming the surface. The arguments against him are EXTREMELY easy to make.

Hokie_Pokie08
03-19-2009, 11:52 AM
did i read a typo of did 191 lbs antoine smith really put up 31 bench reps? if true that more impressive than that 290 lbs guy putting it up 47 times.

Smith's max bench is something ridiculous like 480 lbs. The 31 reps is actually less than his rumored personal best for 225 reps.

superman
03-19-2009, 11:58 AM
Smith's max bench is something ridiculous like 480 lbs. The 31 reps is actually less than his rumored personal best for 225 reps.

i wonder if that's the strongest pound for pound prospect there has ever beeen

Scott Wright
03-19-2009, 12:04 PM
Please do not post premium information from other sites...

georgiafan
03-19-2009, 12:08 PM
Please do not post premium information from other sites...

My bad i'll stop

Chachi
03-19-2009, 12:52 PM
Anything on Maclin yet, a 40 time?

P-L
03-19-2009, 02:38 PM
According to the Scout.com free board, Stafford threw 50 passes and completed 48 of them.

Scott Wright
03-19-2009, 03:07 PM
Gil Brandt on Stafford's workout:

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/19/stafford-displays-strong-accurate-arm-at-georgia-pro-day/

Falcon_from_E_Oakland
03-19-2009, 03:08 PM
http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/65/655512m.jpg

Babylon
03-19-2009, 03:10 PM
Gil Brandt on Stafford's workout:

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/19/stafford-displays-strong-accurate-arm-at-georgia-pro-day/

Sort of taking it out of context but i like the line about his one fault might be he throws the ball like Brett Favre. Funny line there.

Falcon_from_E_Oakland
03-19-2009, 03:11 PM
According to the Scout.com free board, Stafford threw 50 passes and completed 48 of them.

yea that thread was based off an AJC article....(encase anyone wanted to know the validity of it)

Halsey
03-19-2009, 03:16 PM
Ok, I'm here to brag. I got to watch part of the UGA pro day. I was sittin in the library studying and needed a break. I said what the heck and decided to go the the practice field to see what I could see. I was watching from just outside the field when a guy walked off the field and said to me "You can walk out there if you like, they're letting fans out there as long as it doesn't get too crowded". To make things even better, I stood about 10 feet from Mike Smith and Thomas Dimitroff. I got there in time to watch about a dozen or so of Stafford's passes. He looked good to me. He was on target for the most part and the receivers only had to make minor adjustments to a couple of passes. After he was done passing, people started going in different directions as if the whole thing was over. The media started doing interviews, NFL people were chatting it up with each other, etc. Perhaps the coolest moment of the whole thing was when UGA defensive coordinator Willie Martinez walked up to the Falcons guys and introduced them to UGA LB Rennie Curran. Curran won't be eligible to enter the draft until after next year, but he is a very interesting prospect: Really good, really fast, but short. Martinez was telling the Falcons guys to not worry about his height. Curran just smiled and tried to say the right things.

I don't really know what else to say about it. I don't have any insider info or anything. it was just really cool and I wanted to brag. :D

georgiafan
03-19-2009, 03:31 PM
scout.com also has high praises of Stafford's performance

Babylon
03-19-2009, 03:37 PM
According to the Scout.com free board, Stafford threw 50 passes and completed 48 of them.

Not a surprise, the story would have been if he didnt do well. The clip by the NFL network (hope i can say that) during the combine of his drills down in Arizona really showed great form and footwork. Great talent.

holt_bruce81
03-19-2009, 04:56 PM
Not surprising with Stafford. It's unusual for more than 5 balls to hit the ground during a QB workout.

Falcon_from_E_Oakland
03-19-2009, 05:28 PM
UGA saftey CJ Byrd....crazy shot

http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/878/F514490.JPG


Demiko Goodman - WR

http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/878/F514507.JPG


Corvey Irvin
http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/878/F514464.JPG


KM
http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/878/F514528.JPG

Babylon
03-19-2009, 05:29 PM
Not surprising with Stafford. It's unusual for more than 5 balls to hit the ground during a QB workout.

Especially with familiar receivers, although the article reported he threw all the differant routes. He probably felt lonely out there without defensive linemen hanging all over him, oh well he can get back to normal when he gets to Detroit.

MooshooGawd
03-19-2009, 05:29 PM
I got to watch UC's Pro Day today. The place was swarming with scouts; including Rex Ryan, Marvin Lewis and a few others.

Connor Barwin was obviously the main attraction. He ran a 4.49 40, I would think that would have to propel him into the late first round. For a guy his size to run that fast...it's amazing.

Babylon
03-19-2009, 05:39 PM
I got to watch UC's Pro Day today. The place was swarming with scouts; including Rex Ryan, Marvin Lewis and a few others.

Connor Barwin was obviously the main attraction. He ran a 4.49 40, I would think that would have to propel him into the late first round. For a guy his size to run that fast...it's amazing.

I think his combine propelled him at least into the 1st round conversation, i am hoping he'll be there at #34 for the Pats but he better cool it a bit or someone is going to grab him earlier.

Halsey
03-19-2009, 05:56 PM
Demiko Goodman always looked the part, supposedly has a good head on his shoulders, and even flashed at times. I wonder what held him back from making more of an impact in college. Some team will give him a shot.

etk
03-19-2009, 06:02 PM
Demiko Goodman always looked the part, supposedly has a good head on his shoulders, and even flashed at times. I wonder what held him back from making more of an impact in college. Some team will give him a shot.

You mean Dominick Goodman?

He had 3 TDs as a So in their bowl game. He had a pretty solid impact over his career, but I'm too lazy to look up the stats.

Falcon_from_E_Oakland
03-19-2009, 06:06 PM
You mean Dominick Goodman?

He had 3 TDs as a So in their bowl game. He had a pretty solid impact over his career, but I'm too lazy to look up the stats.

differentnt players

Demiko is a Georgia WR

etk
03-19-2009, 06:07 PM
differentnt players

Demiko is a Georgia WR

lol. There was discussion over Cincinnati and Connor Barwin so I figured that guy meant Dominick. Carry on.

bored of education
03-19-2009, 06:13 PM
All 32 teams on hand to watch Stafford throw at Georgia's pro day
Associated Press


ATHENS, Ga. -- Matthew Stafford showed off his strong arm Thursday for NFL scouts, an important step if he wants to realize his dream of being the No. 1 pick in next month's draft.

Wyche on Georgia's pro day
Matthew Stafford threw in breezy conditions, frequently piercing Mother Nature’s attempt to take some starch or aim off some of his passes. Stafford was mostly accurate on the 50 scripted throws. He sailed a few passes over the heads of some of his receivers, but he didn’t do anything to hurt himself on draft boards. More ...

Stafford in NFL.com mock drafts:
» Wyche: Stafford No. 1
» Kirwan: Stafford No. 4
» Davis: Stafford No. 1
» Dukes: Stafford No. 1
» Lombardi: No. 1 (video) With representatives for each of the 32 professional teams watching, Stafford completed 45 of his 50 passes to four receivers on Georgia's pro day.

In a script of plays he said he wrote, Stafford zipped passes to each sideline, he threw deep routes -- including one completion of at least 50 yards -- and he threw while rolling to his right and left.

The workout was important because Stafford did not throw at the NFL combine in Indianapolis.

"I wanted to be able to throw a bunch of balls," Stafford said. "At Indy you get to throw about 10 to 15 and it was a good chance for me to get out here and throw 50 and let people see."

Stafford didn't give himself a grade but said "I think I did pretty good."

"I missed one or two that I just threw high but other than that I think I did well," he said. "This is how well you can throw in your shorts to a guy in a T-shirt with nobody guarding him, so it's important I guess for people to see the physical attributes, but it's not real football."

Stafford is projected by draft analysts as the possible top draft pick by Detroit. The Lions had five representatives at the workout, including general manager Martin Mayhew.

"It was a great workout, a great pro day," said Mayhew, who would not speak specifically about Stafford.

Jacksonville Jaguars quarterbacks coach Mike Shula said he was impressed by Stafford's throws.

"I think he's got a bright mind," Shula said. "I think he's a fast thinker and I think he has all the tools that an NFL quarterback is going to need to be successful."

The best of the rest
While Matthew Stafford was the focal point at Georgia’s pro day, there were a few other standouts on hand. Not the least of which was running back Knowshon Moreno. More ... Shula said Stafford's draft status should not be hurt by not throwing at the NFL combine.

"I think, especially with a guy who supposedly has a chance to be a very, very high pick, it's understandable," Shula said. "I think maybe guys down the line need that. We respect all that. Do we want everyone to work out at the combine? Yeah. We respect that, especially with someone who is in the position he's in."

Stafford was the star of the workout, but he wasn't the only Georgia player who is expected to be picked in the first round. Knowshon Moreno, who could be the first running back taken in the draft, also attracted much attention while posting times of 4.60 and 4.63 in the 40-yard dash.

"This atmosphere is not really as stressful as the combine," Moreno said. "It was good to get here and be with your teammates. It's more relaxed, but it's still a work day."

Georgia receiver Mohamed Massaquoi and cornerback Asher Allen also are projected as possible picks on the first day of the draft.

Stafford threw to Massaquoi, Kenneth Harris, Demiko Goodman and tight end Tripp Chandler.

Even with all the NFL executives on the Georgia practice fields, Moreno noted that Stafford still looked calm.

"He's always relaxed," Moreno said. "He's not feeling any pressure. He knows what his capabilities are."

Said Stafford: "It's been about what I expected. It's crazy but it's a lot of fun, too."

Stafford said he wouldn't worry about being drafted by a Detroit team that didn't win a game last season and has already visited with the Lions.

"I think it'd be an honor to be able to be picked No. 1 and also I want to get a chance to turn something around," he said. "It'd be a heck of a place for me to be able to go."

Southern Cal's Mark Sanchez joins Stafford as the highest rated quarterbacks in the draft.

When asked what he can bring to an NFL team, Stafford gave a quick response: "A guy who is physically gifted and mentally as well, and I'm a guy that they know what they're getting. I'm going to be the same every day no matter what's going on around me and that's accountable."

Stafford was a three-year starter at Georgia before bypassing his senior year to enter the draft.

He completed 235 of 383 passes (61.4 percent) for 3,459 yards with a school-record 25 touchdowns and 10 interceptions and was 27-7 as a starter in his career.

Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press

etk
03-19-2009, 06:14 PM
Somewhere STARHEATHER is grinning as Knowshon Moreno proves he's "small and slow".

no love
03-19-2009, 06:37 PM
Somewhere STARHEATHER is grinning as Knowshon Moreno proves he's "small and slow".

And yet still the best runner in this draft.

BamaFalcon59
03-19-2009, 07:06 PM
Any news on Virginia Tech.'s proday?

MooshooGawd
03-19-2009, 07:23 PM
The other big news to come from UC's Pro Day (besides Barwin's amazing workouts) was that highly thought of CB Mike Mickens finally ran. He's still healing from his injury, but he ran a 4.59 in the 40. Again, he's still not 100%. If this causes him to slide then someone will get great value.

holt_bruce81
03-19-2009, 07:43 PM
http://blogs.nfl.com/category/pro-days/

Predicted to be a top-10 pick in most mock drafts, Missouri WR Jeremy Maclin did all the drills at Missouri’s pro day. Maclin (6-0 1/4, 197 pounds) ran a 4.43 and 4.47 in the 40, had a 10-foot borad jump, a 35 1/2-inch vertical jump, a 4.25 short shuttle and a 7.12 cone drill. He caught passes from his college quarterback, Chase Daniel, and demonstrated great explosion coming out of his breaks. He also flashed smooth receiving skills. Bengals WR coach Mike Sheppard and Jets WR coach Henry Ellard were both on hand to check out Maclin and a total of 22 teams had representatives in attendance.

BamaFalcon59
03-19-2009, 07:45 PM
Maclin is an Eddie Royal clone.

And that is not a bad thing at all.

Geo
03-19-2009, 08:13 PM
Moreno and Maclin are the latest guys to not run better than their Combine times. While some other guys have. So what to fully believe about the Oil Drum having a slower track, still subjective. Next year's Combine will tell us more.

The other big news to come from UC's Pro Day (besides Barwin's amazing workouts) was that highly thought of CB Mike Mickens finally ran. He's still healing from his injury, but he ran a 4.59 in the 40. Again, he's still not 100%. If this causes him to slide then someone will get great value.
As I said in my previous (now deleted) post, that time for Mickens harkens to Daymeion Hughes in 2007. Hughes dropped to the Colts' late 3rd round pick, and I probably wouldn't mind if that situation repeated itself for the Colts with Mickens this year.

Although maybe Mickens can fall back on his recovering knee as you touched on, MG, to the point that perhaps he runs a better time before the Draft.

Halsey
03-19-2009, 08:30 PM
Mike Mayock on Stafford in an interview following today's proday:

"This is an elite quarterback"

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f5a773

SeanTaylorRIP
03-19-2009, 08:56 PM
Any news on Virginia Tech.'s proday?

Macho had a final adjusted 4.51 forty on an apparently very fast track, had a 34-inch vertical, a 10-foot, 1-inch broad jump and did 13 bench press reps. He had blazing shuttle times though. I know Sean Glennon also ran in the low 4.8's. Not that many NFL representatives though.

BUSTKUNTLAWL
03-19-2009, 09:41 PM
Maclin is an Eddie Royal clone.

And that is not a bad thing at all.

Brandon Tate reminds me a lot of Eddie Royal.

JeffSamardzijaIRISH
03-19-2009, 09:45 PM
Brandon Tate reminds me a lot of Eddie Royal.

Derrick Williams reminds me a lot of Eddie Royal.

ElectricEye
03-19-2009, 09:52 PM
Derrick Williams reminds me a lot of Eddie Royal.

Derrick Williams reminds me a lot of Yamon Figures.

DJC
03-19-2009, 10:06 PM
Derrick Williams reminds me a lot of Yamon Figures.

Johnny Knox reminds me a lot of Yamon Figurs.

Babylon
03-19-2009, 10:30 PM
Mike Mayock on Stafford in an interview following today's proday:

"This is an elite quarterback"

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f5a773

That's what i like about Mayock, he can change his opinions based on information. Cant see McShay doing that.

Sniper
03-19-2009, 10:57 PM
Derrick Williams reminds me a lot of Eddie Royal.

How, exactly?

And yet still the best runner in this draft.

Hard to "still" be the best runner in this draft when you've never been the best runner in the draft. See Wells, Chris.

Crickett
03-19-2009, 11:17 PM
Ramses Barden reminds me a lot of Eddie Royal.
Mohamed Massaquoi reminds me of Eddie Royal too.

Who know who else reminds me of Eddie Royal?

Mike Wallace.

No, not this Mike Wallace

http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/pics11/200/MA/MALGNUPJBOZWIER.20080806200136.jpg

This Mike Wallace.

http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/TV-Anchorman-Mike-Wallace-Retired-from-CBS-039-s-60-Minutes-2.jpg


Mike Wallace of 60 minutes. He's just like Eddie Royal.