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Texas Homer
03-04-2009, 01:25 AM
Just a Fun thread.

Pick 3 players from your team's 2009 class that you think will play/Star in the NFL someday.Must be a Freshman.

Texas Longhorns

DE Alex Okafor 6'4 240(Huge Frame,Great Motor,Long Arms)

OT Mason Walters 6'6 295(Massive Frame.Carries weight well.Athletic"Big Country"type of OL)

OL Thomas Ashcraft 6'5 315 (Very athletic and strong. Reminds me of a young Justin Blalock.)

duckseason
03-04-2009, 05:48 AM
CB Cliff Harris- Not sure I've ever seen a HS kid with a better feel for the CB position, though I admit I've only seen a relatively small number. He's a natural with great fundamentals and ball skills. Often appears to be the intended receiver if not for his opposing jersey. A true cover corner who displays great fluidity and is precise in his movements. NFL scouts will love his tape, and there figures to be 3-4 years worth of it as a starter in the Oregon secondary. A good candidate to jump to the NFL as a RS junior. Also has good value as a return man.

WR Diante Jackson- A lot of guys appear to have the size and speed and skill to make it to the NFL someday, but the primary reason I like Jackson is he appears to have that drive to get there. He seems like a perfectionist who desperately wants to be the best at everything he does. Very coachable, and likes doing the little things like blocking and has even taken ballet classes to strengthen his knees. Seems committed to his craft, which leads me to believe his rise will be steady. With starting roles there for the taking at Oregon, Diante projects to be a 3-4 year starter and with his size and skill level, the chances are high that he'll get a shot at the NFL.

OT Everett Benyard- His tremendous size combined with the tutelage of Coach Greatwood will hopefully produce an outstanding NFL prospect. We all know it's all about technique and there's quite a bit for this guy to learn over the next several years, but I'm betting on his size and Coach Great's rep. Could have a big time future if he stays focused and committed. Will have to work extremely hard just to earn a starting role sometime in the next few years. I like his chances though.

wicket
03-04-2009, 06:42 AM
LB: Manti Te'o: Most pro ready linebacker I've seen on high school film (not saying he is ready but he is as close as anyone), great lateral movement and hits hard and clean. Ideal SLB for a 4-3 pro team.
OG: Chris Watt: I normally wouldnt pick a guy that was an offensive guard since half the guards in the pros were tackles in college but this kid is something special, relentless in persuing his blocks, nice mean streak, good feet, great hands and a great frame.
DB: EJ Banks: Great all around athlete, could have played qb elsewhere but is just to good an athlete to miss out on the trip to the next level.

etk
03-04-2009, 07:15 AM
Ray Ray Armstrong - Big frame and great overall athletic ability. Naturally talented. Could end up at DE, OLB or TE.

Mike James - Fred Taylor, Chris Wells, Earnest Graham, etc. That kind of talent.

Curtis Porter - Ideal 3-4 NT.

There are others but these 3 are the most unique prospects.

VoteLynnSwan
03-04-2009, 10:33 AM
For Illinois i think the three best prospects will be: (not in any order)

1. Michael Buchanan DE: 6-6 220 very athletic basketball player. Should definitely get some looks because of his size and athleticism.

2. Justin Green CB: 5-10 174 Green is lightening quick and very fast. Is going to play RB in college, but would probably project best to CB at the next level. Will likely be drafted as a KR or developmental type player unless he moves to CB earlier in his career.

3. Terry Hawthorne WR: 6-0 168 Dynamic playmaker, he's great with the ball in his hands. He's not out of this world fast, but he's got good speed, and has great quickness, and has great hands.

cdub11
03-04-2009, 10:54 AM
QB Garrett Gilbert
DE Alex Okafor
OL Mason Walters

kwilk103
03-04-2009, 10:56 AM
qb geno smith
wr logan heastie
cb pat miller
s jonathon scott

thenewfeature06
03-04-2009, 10:59 AM
DE: Donte Moss- *****
DT: Jared McAdoo- ***
RB: A.J. Blue- ****

tjsunstein
03-04-2009, 11:03 AM
Florida State Seminoles

1. DT Jacobbi McDaniel (6'0 267) - Relatively quick DT and should have a lot of publicity throughout his career at FSU. The spotlight early can really help or hurt, its up to him to be dominant like he has in high school. Although he isn't very tall and may seem a little light, he makes a living off of his quickness.
2. ATH Willie Downs (6'2 192) - He could afford to put on some weight and play some safety or keep his current weight and play corner. For some reason, he didn't receive many offers despite his ball skills and versatility. He could play some offense as well as he develops his techniques on the defensive side. He has the athleticism down.
3. DE Demonte McAllister (6'3 263) - Passed up the top half of the SEC and USC to commit to FSU. He had 97 tackles and 19 sacks in 2008 while being lined up at DT. The next athletic DL to rave about from FSU.

georgiafan
03-04-2009, 11:14 AM
UGA

QB Zack Mettenburger - 6'5 228 pound QB who is suppose to have one of the strongest arms in the class

WR Marlon Brown - 6'5 205 pound who should put up good stats playing along side A.J

CB Branden Smith - A playmaker who will probley start as a freshman.

the decider13
03-04-2009, 11:20 AM
Jamarkus McFarland- He is simply a beast and is going to a good school for developing DTs. (Tommie Harris, Demarcus Granger, Gerald McCoy)

Ronnell Lewis- An amazing athlete...I don't care if he played 8 man high school ball, the dude is gonna be amazing. Very raw right now, but sky high ceiling.

Justin Chaisson-Great frame and skill set, may need some more bulk


Sooners are lookin good :D

Giantsfan1080
03-04-2009, 11:36 AM
Rutgers Scarlet Knights:

QB Tom Savage
DT Isaac Holmes
DT Antwan Lowery

JRTPlaya21
03-04-2009, 01:46 PM
Virginia Tech Hokies

TE Logan Thomas
RB David Wilson

Michigan
03-04-2009, 02:26 PM
In parenthesis are "full potential" comparisons

Michigan:
DT William Campbell (Kris Jenkins)
DB Justin Turner (Malcolm Jenkins)
OT Taylor Lewan (Jason Smith)

slightlyaraiderfan
03-04-2009, 02:52 PM
Matt Barkley
Devon Kennard
TJ McDonald

sbh15
03-04-2009, 02:55 PM
Andre Debose
Gary Brown
Xavier Nixon

twista6002
03-06-2009, 04:50 PM
Rutgers Scarlet Knights:

QB Tom Savage
DT Isaac Holmes
DT Antwan Lowery

I agree with Savage and Lowery, but I like Michael Larrow's pro potential more than Holmes.

Brent
03-06-2009, 05:03 PM
A&M

Christine Michael
Jonathan Stewart
Uzoma Nwachukwu

Giantsfan1080
03-06-2009, 05:04 PM
I agree with Savage and Lowery, but I like Michael Larrow's pro potential more than Holmes.

It was hard for me to narrow it down to the 3. I think Holmes has a better shot than Lowery. I didn't really want to have both DT's but I couldn't narrow down that 3rd guy. Larrow was in my thinking along with Ryan and Bush.

Sniper
03-06-2009, 05:05 PM
1. Justin Turner, CB/S
2. Tate Forcier, QB
3. Craig Roh, DE

JoeyJr09
03-06-2009, 05:10 PM
Miami:

1.) Ray Ray Armstrong, LB
2.) Brandon McGee, CB
3.) Brandon Washington, OG

Obviously alot more we could turn into NFL players but these are the obvious 3 for me.

keylime_5
03-06-2009, 05:13 PM
Corey Brown-DB

Dorian Bell-OLB

Duron Carter-WR

ironman4579
03-06-2009, 05:24 PM
1.Justin Turner, CB/S
2.Craig Roh, DE
3.Will Campbell, DT

twista6002
03-06-2009, 09:36 PM
It was hard for me to narrow it down to the 3. I think Holmes has a better shot than Lowery. I didn't really want to have both DT's but I couldn't narrow down that 3rd guy. Larrow was in my thinking along with Ryan and Bush.

I would pos rep you for mentioning Bush but you're a Giants fan ;)

But seriously, if the kid can catch and block a little, he'll be an asset because he's a physical specimen. I remember he de-committed from us for a second, I was on suicide watch.

Ryan is up there too. I watched him in person and the dude has a frame that would allow about 15-20 more pounds too. Dude can be a scary safety if he plays his cards right.

I really like the Carreozola kid. He's listed at 6'2'', but I saw him in person and he seemed bigger. He might be a DE in the future.

YAYareaRB
03-06-2009, 10:13 PM
LSU

Chris Davenport DT 6'4" 310 lbs - I don't know what it is but I see Glen Dorsey in him. He seems to move better than Dorsey which is amazing for someone his size. Quick Feet. He's definitely gonna be playing on sundays.

Barkevious Mingo OLB 6'5" 210 lbs. - I think he can add some major muscle weight to his frame. He'd be a perfect fit as a 3-4 OLB if he can hone his pass rushing in Baton Rouge for the next 2-3 years.

Reuben Randle WR 6'3" 195 lbs - Has good size for the position. Displays good natural hands and body control. I'd like to see what kind of numbers he puts up in Crowton's offense. Look to him to follow in the footsteps of Bowe, Doucet, and Davis.

BRAVEHEART
03-08-2009, 02:15 PM
Matt Barkley
Devon Kennard
TJ McDonald

While I agree that they'll most likely make it to the pros, I feel that Byron Moore and "Loni" Fanpugo will (could) end up being drafted before TJ McDonald and Devon Kennard.

Hines
03-08-2009, 02:29 PM
Penn State:

Eric Shrive OT
Gerald Hodges S
Justin Brown WR
Darrell Givens CB

Matthew Jones
03-08-2009, 03:32 PM
Connecticut:

None. :(

ncst8fan83
03-08-2009, 03:54 PM
For NCSU:

TE Asa Watson - Beast in the passing game. Great hands, great frame, needs to get a LOT bigger though. More of a big WR right now than anything.

OG Denzelle Good - Absolute mauler in the running game. Needs to work on his footwork in the passing game, but great size at 6'6" 325lbs. VERY agile but relies too much on his athleticism sometimes.

CB Jarvis Byrd - An absolute ballhawk. Will fit in really well with a zone team. Needs to work on his timed speed but is adequate due to his body positioning and athleticism. Really understands how to put himself in the best position to break up or intercept the pass. Knows how to hit, but might suffer against the bigger backs due to size (5'10" 170).

Darkhorse:
RB James Washington - lacks ideal size at 6' 180, but is a blazer! Kid just outruns everything. He'll put his head down and run you over but relies more on suttle movements to get you off-balence to go around you. Can't wait for this kid to show his stuff.

twista6002
03-08-2009, 05:41 PM
Penn State:

Eric Shrive OT
Gerald Hodges S
Justin Brown WR
Darrell Givens CB

I watched Hodges in person. I actually watched about 3 or 4 games of his. Maybe it was the games I was at but he was soft. Didn't want to run up and hit anyone and dogged it half the time. He was scared to hit And they're talking about moving him to LB too, which would worry me if I were a PSU fan. He's just got good size and speed, nothing else. No tenacity, no heart, minimal desire. Even the few scouts I talked to said they didn't know what the type was about. Classic case of looking like Tarzan and playing like Jane.

Trust me, the best player PSU got from Jersey was Shawney Kersey. The dude is a player. He punked Hodges and he had a concusion while doing it, and he's got as much heart as I've ever seen a high school player have.

Hines
03-08-2009, 06:12 PM
I have a sence of sour grapes. All kidding aside, Hodges will be a S at Penn State and quit possibly could start as a true frosh at SS. Obviously he isn't that soft and play with no heart if the coaches like him that much to have him play a lot and start at SS.

Kersey is a beast, and I am glad we got him.

twista6002
03-08-2009, 06:16 PM
I have a sence of sour grapes. All kidding aside, Hodges will be a S at Penn State and quit possibly could start as a true frosh at SS. Obviously he isn't that soft and play with no heart if the coaches like him that much to have him play a lot and start at SS.

Kersey is a beast, and I am glad we got him.

If there was sour grapes I'd be dissing Kersey too, who was actually committed to RU longer than Hodges, then de-committed.

Well, to be serious, there is no piece of credible evidence that says the coaches think Hodges will be the opening day SS, and unless your backups completely blow, he wouldn't start for long. Kersey will be a stud though, I don't know much about your current receivers, but I think he can start as a true frosh.

Hines
03-08-2009, 06:20 PM
If there was sour grapes I'd be dissing Kersey too, who was actually committed to RU longer than Hodges, then de-committed.

Well, to be serious, there is no piece of credible evidence that says the coaches think Hodges will be the opening day SS, and unless your backups completely blow, he wouldn't start for long. Kersey will be a stud though, I don't know much about your current receivers, but I think he can start as a true frosh.

A lot of Penn State insiders believe he could start as a true frosh, or see a lot of time. One said that he is the most physically gifted player out there. One observer said that he compares him to Taylor Mays. I don't think he will have Taylor Mays potential though.

Kersey won't start as a true frosh. He will get time, but not start. Justin Brown will play more then Kersey IMO.

twista6002
03-08-2009, 06:24 PM
A lot of Penn State insiders believe he could start as a true frosh, or see a lot of time. One said that he is the most physically gifted player out there. One observer said that he compares him to Taylor Mays. I don't think he will have Taylor Mays potential though.

That's the thing about Hodges. He's as gifted an athlete as I've ever seen. But he just doesn't have tenacity. Maybe being at Penn State rather than Pooboro will give him devine intervention, but from everything I've seen he doesn't have the tenacity you want in a player. Mays is actually a good comparison, and I'm not a fan of Mays to say the least.

Hines
03-08-2009, 06:49 PM
I will do three players for my other three favorite teams:

Arizona Wildcats

1. Adam Hall WR/S- I expect him to start as a True Frosh. He absolutely dominated the Arizona ranks and he looks the part to be a real solid college player.

2. Daniel Jenkins RB- I loved this kids film. He has moves and can outrun a lot of players. I believe this is a steal for the Wildcats.

3. Dewayne Peace WR- Originally a Michigan commit, he is another solid get for the Wildcats. I don't expect him to contribute his true frosh season, but he looks to be a very solid possession reciever at the college ranks. Runs real good routes, can make some people miss, and has good hands.


Arizona State Sundevils

1. Vontaze Burfict LB- The gem of this class. He will start at MLB from day 1 and will help ASU form one of the best defenses in the Pac 10.

2. Corey Adams DT- Another player who should start day 1. Has great size, speed, and can really play. Adams, Guy, Davis, Burfict, and Bolden is a great core of defenders to build around.

3. Matt Tucker S- I compare him to Troy Nolan who just graduated. He is a big safety who could contribute in a year or two, and be a solid college player.


Pittsburgh

1. Kolby Gray QB- Pittsburgh's quarterbacks suck. I think Gray might be the best one of the bunch and start for the Panthers.

2. Tyrone Ezell DE- A manbeast IMO. Has a lot of physical tools and I believe he has the best chance to get drafted in this draft class. I think he has the frame to kick it inside and play DT.

3. Todd Thomas WR- A lot of talent, but **** for brains. If he gets his grades in order, the Panthers have a scary WR tandem in Jonathon Baldwin and Todd Thomas.

Just missed from Pitt: Brock DeCicco TE/WR- I think he will be a WR in college.

Hollywood
03-08-2009, 07:26 PM
NFL prospects, assuming they progress as I expect:

1. Ray Ray Armstrong as DE: Top 10 pick pick;elite Will be an impact player at the college level and will put freakish numbers at the combine. Impact pass rush specialist at the next level.

2. Lamar Miller: First round pick Could compare to a Ronnie Brown at Auburn where he splits carries with another RB (either Mike James or Bryce Brown, or both), has a high YPC though and then at the combine will be put up a top 3 (for his year) 40 time combined with being a legit 215 pound back.

3. Brandon McGee as CB: First round-high 2nd round pick Prototypical size/speed for an NFL corner.

etk
03-08-2009, 07:30 PM
Miller could get redshirted, and if he does he'll have a year to himself to shine as a Senior. We've sent backs to the NFL off 1 year of production before.

BRAVEHEART
03-08-2009, 07:47 PM
NFL prospects, assuming they progress as I expect:

1. Ray Ray Armstrong as DE: Top 10 pick pick;elite Will be an impact player at the college level and will put freakish numbers at the combine. Impact pass rush specialist at the next level.

2. Lamar Miller: First round pick Could compare to a Ronnie Brown at Auburn where he splits carries with another RB (either Mike James or Bryce Brown, or both), has a high YPC though and then at the combine will be put up a top 3 (for his year) 40 time combined with being a legit 215 pound back.

3. Brandon McGee as CB: First round-high 2nd round pick Prototypical size/speed for an NFL corner.

Atleast you're being modest.

Hollywood
03-08-2009, 07:58 PM
Atleast you're being modest.

Two first rounders and one bubble guy from one class? Psshh that is modest for Miami!

BRAVEHEART
03-08-2009, 08:47 PM
Two first rounders and one bubble guy from one class? Psshh that is modest for Miami!


is it really?

Hines
03-08-2009, 09:01 PM
I like Brandon McGee a lot. He reminds me of Antrel Rolle.

Hollywood
03-08-2009, 09:24 PM
is it really?


Absolutely. The last 6-7 years don't count.

JoeyJr09
03-08-2009, 09:29 PM
Absolutely. The last 6-7 years don't count.

Why not?

have you seen the amount of talent we've put in the NFL the last 6-7 years?

Even with as bad a recruiter as Coker was we put out 1st round guys with consistency.

I'd be willing to bet we have average close to 2 1st rounders per year over the course of the last 10 years or so.

Hollywood
03-08-2009, 09:37 PM
Why not?

have you seen the amount of talent we've put in the NFL the last 6-7 years?

Even with as bad a recruiter as Coker was we put out 1st round guys with consistency.

I'd be willing to bet we have average close to 2 1st rounders per year over the course of the last 10 years or so.

The 2002 and 2003 classes both had two first rounders plus a fringe first round guy but you're right we probably do average about 2 first rounders a year for the last ten years. We need to get back to having classes like the 2001 class -

http://hurricanewarriors.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=2

Edit: Anyways I wouldn't say it's exactly modest but it's not far fetched either.

BRAVEHEART
03-08-2009, 09:57 PM
The 2002 and 2003 classes both had two first rounders plus a fringe first round guy but you're right we probably do average about 2 first rounders a year for the last ten years. We need to get back to having classes like the 2001 class -

http://hurricanewarriors.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=2

Edit: Anyways I wouldn't say it's exactly modest but it's not far fetched either.


That's how feel, but at the same time, this new miami isn't the one of the last 10 years. The usual 1st rounders could be 2nd and 3rd rounders now, and this year and the next should be the marker as where the Canes are at for awhile. Luckily for the Canes southflorida is a hotbed for physical freaks and speedsters which should help continue Miami's draft dominance (only rivaled by OSU and USC).

Hollywood
03-09-2009, 12:02 AM
That's how feel, but at the same time, this new miami isn't the one of the last 10 years. The usual 1st rounders could be 2nd and 3rd rounders now

only for this coming draft and probably next years, but after that I full expect us to see us dominating the NFL draft once again. I wish this thread was called "Future NFL'ers from the 2008 class from your team" then you would see some real Miami arrogance show up lol.

JoeyJr09
03-09-2009, 01:01 AM
That's how feel, but at the same time, this new miami isn't the one of the last 10 years. The usual 1st rounders could be 2nd and 3rd rounders now, and this year and the next should be the marker as where the Canes are at for awhile. Luckily for the Canes southflorida is a hotbed for physical freaks and speedsters which should help continue Miami's draft dominance (only rivaled by OSU and USC).

Not sure what you mean by this new Miami isn't the one of the last 10 years. As in we aren't putting out the same NFL talent I assume?

Well you aren't exactly going out on a limb there considering the run we have will be nearly impossible to match by anyone. Nobody can rival us as far as the draft goes over the last 10-15 years (including USC and OSU, not a knock on them, just a testament to the dominance Miami had as far as producing NFL talent).

Just to put things in perspective. Over the last 10-15 years, Miami has:

1.)put the most players in the NFL
2.)put the most players in the Pro Bowl
3.)broken the record for most 1st rounders in 1 year
4.)broken the record for consecutive years with 1st rounders

Miami has set records in the draft that are pretty unheard of.

Anyone trying to talk down Miami for not producing the same NFL talent needs to take a step back and just see that the level of talent coming out is something that might never be repeated by any school for a long, long time.

Miami obviously will be lucky if they have 2 players even drafted this year, but there is some talent in the pipeline with guys like Jason Fox, Craig Cooper, Orlando Franklin, Allen Bailey and Colin McCarthy. Certainly not sure fire 1st rounders but certain solid players that should fall in the 2-4 round range within the next year or 2. (Plus there should be a few low round guys mixed in there as well.)

Not bad for a team that player the most freshmen in the country last year and who's biggest talent base is still at least 3 years away from going Pro.

BRAVEHEART
03-09-2009, 01:40 AM
Not sure what you mean by this new Miami isn't the one of the last 10 years. As in we aren't putting out the same NFL talent I assume?

Well you aren't exactly going out on a limb there considering the run we have will be nearly impossible to match by anyone. Nobody can rival us as far as the draft goes over the last 10-15 years (including USC and OSU, not a knock on them, just a testament to the dominance Miami had as far as producing NFL talent).

Just to put things in perspective. Over the last 10-15 years, Miami has:

1.)put the most players in the NFL
2.)put the most players in the Pro Bowl
3.)broken the record for most 1st rounders in 1 year
4.)broken the record for consecutive years with 1st rounders

Miami has set records in the draft that are pretty unheard of.

Anyone trying to talk down Miami for not producing the same NFL talent needs to take a step back and just see that the level of talent coming out is something that might never be repeated by any school for a long, long time.
Miami obviously will be lucky if they have 2 players even drafted this year, but there is some talent in the pipeline with guys like Jason Fox, Craig Cooper, Orlando Franklin, Allen Bailey and Colin McCarthy. Certainly not sure fire 1st rounders but certain solid players that should fall in the 2-4 round range within the next year or 2. (Plus there should be a few low round guys mixed in there as well.)

Not bad for a team that player the most freshmen in the country last year and who's biggest talent base is still at least 3 years away from going Pro.


Get off your soap box joey, I know what miami has accomplished I'm not downplaying anything. I'm just saying, while miami has been arguably the greatest cfb program for the last 10 years, I would'nt be surprised to see them stay at the state they are at now for a lil while. The one thing with streaks is....they end, and sometimes it takes a lil while to comeback to where you were in the past (especially if expectations are high). The good thing for miami is they'll always have talent, the bad part is...talent isn't the problem.


Now with all that said, does miami have a great chance of rebounding this year and become serious title contenders the next, probably more than likely...but if they don't, I would'nt be surprised at all. It's like what you say all the time about not calling things "locks", would'nt you agree?

Hollywood
03-09-2009, 01:55 AM
I'm just saying, while miami has been arguably the greatest cfb program for the last 10 years, I would'nt be surprised to see them stay at the state they are at now for a lil while. The one thing with streaks is....they end, and sometimes it takes a lil while to comeback to where you were in the past (especially if expectations are high). The good thing for miami is they'll always have talent, the bad part is...talent isn't the problem.



We have been on that down cycle streak for 5 years now, and yes talent HAS absolutely been the problem in Miami, Larry Coker was a horrible recruiter and did not understand how to build a college football team. We are just now getting back the type of talent we are used to starting with the 2008 class.

BRAVEHEART
03-09-2009, 02:07 AM
We have been on that down cycle streak for 5 years now, and yes talent HAS absolutely been the problem in Miami, Larry Coker was a horrible recruiter and did not understand how to build a college football team. We are just now getting back the type of talent we are used to starting with the 2008 class.


You guys were still pumping out nfl talent, not as much, but way more than any average program. You dont need to put out 6 first rounders to validate talent lol.

Hollywood
03-09-2009, 03:12 AM
You dont need to put out 6 first rounders to validate talent lol.

haha see I lol at this statement only because as stupid as it sounds... in a way...yes we do! That's why our slogan is "it's a U thing, you wouldn't understand" because we fully expect to be on a completely different level than anyone else in the college football world. It literally starts out at the miami dade pee wee level and just builds up from there. That is why it sickens UM fans to see UF on a higher level than us right now as it should never be that way. Gainesville will always be Canesville no matter what one season says.

etk
03-09-2009, 06:24 PM
only for this coming draft and probably next years, but after that I full expect us to see us dominating the NFL draft once again. I wish this thread was called "Future NFL'ers from the 2008 class from your team" then you would see some real Miami arrogance show up lol.

I think we have more top talent in this year's class than last year's. Last year's class is stocked full of future NFL guys but few have 1st round potential.

Jacory Harris, Aldarius Johnson, Travis Benjamin, LaRon Byrd, Thearon Collier, Ben Jones, Andrew Smith, Sean Spence, Brandon Harris, and many more.....all solid football players but not really top NFL talents, at least not yet. Same with Vaughn Telemaque who's a great player but lacks speed.

Only Marcus Robinson, Marcus Forston and Arthur Brown (projection) have 1st round written all over them. Robinson as a 3-4 OLB, Forston as an UT and Brown as a versatile LB.

This year's class is filled with potential studs (quality), albeit the quantity of future NFLers is lower. All 2/3 RBs are 1st round talents. Brandon Washington looks like he'll be a great mauler and a possible 1st day pick. Dyron Dye and Ray Ray Armstrong should become gifted pass rushers, while Olivier Vernon is well-developed physically. Curtis Porter is your prototypical NT and those always get overvalued. McGee and Reid are great athletes in different ways. Prince Kent has a lot of potential at S.

JMO, but the 09 class has more guys with high ceilings. 08 class is more of the "good college player, decent NFL player" kind.

2010 will beat them both :)

Hollywood
03-09-2009, 06:36 PM
I think we have more top talent in this year's class than last year's. Last year's class is stocked full of future NFL guys but few have 1st round potential.

Jacory Harris, Aldarius Johnson, Travis Benjamin, LaRon Byrd, Thearon Collier, Ben Jones, Andrew Smith, Sean Spence, Brandon Harris, and many more.....all solid football players but not really top NFL talents, at least not yet. Same with Vaughn Telemaque who's a great player but lacks speed.

Only Marcus Robinson, Marcus Forston and Arthur Brown (projection) have 1st round written all over them. Robinson as a 3-4 OLB, Forston as an UT and Brown as a versatile LB.

This year's class is filled with potential studs (quality), albeit the quantity of future NFLers is lower. All 2/3 RBs are 1st round talents. Brandon Washington looks like he'll be a great mauler and a possible 1st day pick. Dyron Dye and Ray Ray Armstrong should become gifted pass rushers, while Olivier Vernon is well-developed physically. Curtis Porter is your prototypical NT and those always get overvalued. McGee and Reid are great athletes in different ways. Prince Kent has a lot of potential at S.

JMO, but the 09 class has more guys with high ceilings. 08 class is more of the "good college player, decent NFL player" kind.

2010 will beat them both :)

I get what you're saying. The most productive guys from the 08 class may not be the top end NFL prospects we are used to. Spence, AJ, Jacory, Benjamin...agreed.

A couple guys though I think have some high end NFL potential to add to your list are Tommy Streeter and Laron Byrd. Both have the size combined with very good speed.

etk
03-09-2009, 06:46 PM
I get what you're saying. The most productive guys from the 08 class may not be the top end NFL prospects we are used to. Spence, AJ, Jacory, Benjamin...agreed.

A couple guys though I think have some high end NFL potential to add to your list are Tommy Streeter and Laron Byrd. Both have the size combined with very good speed.

Yeah I thought about Byrd. Problem is, last year he was purely a possession receiver. He only ran fades, hitches and curl routes. Same with Aldarius. I'd like to see Byrd get into space and prove himself running a full route tree (woohooWhipple) and making plays all over the field. He's built like a ************, he's smooth and he can catch. I think he's a Day One pick at least as he has the most physical ability of our WRs. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and blame Nix.

I'm not gonna hold my breath on Streeter (in the NFL). I like him as a weapon for us in college, but he's always been a 1-dimensional guy and NFL teams don't like that. He's like a poor man's James Hardy, but I think he'll get drafted higher than most expect because he's got size and apparently runs a good 40.

TBH, all our receivers from that class have NFL potential except maybe Davon Johnson. He's been kind of silent lately. Even Kendal Thompkins has been impressing lately and he will have an extra year to be "the guy" after Benjamin and Collier are gone.

sbh15
03-09-2009, 06:47 PM
I took the Miami job after 2 years with Louisiana Tech in my NCAA Dynasty...

Aldarius Johnson and Sean Spence kicked ass. Travis Benjamin transfered.

There are your predictions, mark it down.

Hollywood
03-09-2009, 06:57 PM
I took the Miami job after 2 years with Louisiana Tech in my NCAA Dynasty...

Aldarius Johnson and Sean Spence kicked ass. Travis Benjamin transfered.

There are your predictions, mark it down.

You're not allowed to play with Miami!

etk
03-09-2009, 07:00 PM
I used to play as the Gators in NCAA 08 because their playbook rox in that game. Then I realized the magnitude of my actions and started using other teams (WVU, OkSt, Navy) with the UF playbook. Never again will I run up 100-0 scores on teams with Tebow (this was pre-lovefest though) and the ***tors.

sbh15
03-09-2009, 07:04 PM
You're not allowed to play with Miami!

Fine, I will take back the three straight national championships I won. And did I mention the 10 5*'s and 10 4*'s in the recruiting class I just had? I'll play with just about anyone really, except non-Gator SEC teams and FSU. I refuse to whomp on the Gators every year in that game.

JoeyJr09
03-09-2009, 07:55 PM
Braveheart,

You either completely misunderstood my point or I didn't make it clear enough. But we are on the same page. Miami will not produce NFL talent at the same level as in the past. But neither will any other program. I think that level is unlikely to get reached anytime soon.

As for talent not being the problem in Miami. You couldnt be more wrong on that. Lack of talent and poor recruiting was 100 percent responsible for the downturn in Miami football.

Don't look at us putting out a couple 1st rounders every year as evidence at we had talent.

We had a couple players every year but there was zero depth to speak of and tons of busts.

Look at our newest recruiting classes just to get feel for how bad an issue our talent and depth was.

7 WR in one class (2008) would never happen to good talent and depth. They wouldn't need to get that drastic.

We took 5 LBs in the 2008 class as well just to make up for the lack of depth and talent at LB. Yet we were still able to produce Tavares Gooden. That doesn't mean we had good LBs. It means we had a good player. But we still sorely lacked talent at that position.

Anyone that thinks Miami had talent and depth during the last 6 or so year downturn has no idea of what has been going on with the Miami program.

JoeyJr09
03-09-2009, 08:02 PM
Guys slow your roll on the 2008 class not having high ceiling caliber players.

Sean Spence to me has Ernie Sims written all over him. Ernie was a top 10 pick.

In all honesty, you guys are telling me you can't see guys like Travis Benjamin, Marcus Forston, Vaughn Telemaque, Arthur Brown, Marcus Robinson go the route of guys like Jeremy Maclin, Glenn Dorsey, William Moore, Keith Rivers, and Anthony Spencer respectively?

All are possible. Plus don't sleep on guys like Cookie, Brandon Harris, Tommy Streeter, LaRon Byrd, Aldarius Johnson, Ben Jones, Andrew Smith, Micanor Regis and a few others becoming mid round picks to compliment a handful of top guys the 2008 class could produce.

Remember these guys are just freshmen. The sky is the limit for them. When Sean Taylor was a freshman, everyone wrote him off because he didn't see the field. Let these kids develop. There is plenty to work with and tons of potential for them to turn into top tier NFL talents. They are all on their way if their freshman year is any indication.

etk
03-10-2009, 03:20 PM
Guys slow your roll on the 2008 class not having high ceiling caliber players.

Sean Spence to me has Ernie Sims written all over him. Ernie was a top 10 pick.

In all honesty, you guys are telling me you can't see guys like Travis Benjamin, Marcus Forston, Vaughn Telemaque, Arthur Brown, Marcus Robinson go the route of guys like Jeremy Maclin, Glenn Dorsey, William Moore, Keith Rivers, and Anthony Spencer respectively?

All are possible. Plus don't sleep on guys like Cookie, Brandon Harris, Tommy Streeter, LaRon Byrd, Aldarius Johnson, Ben Jones, Andrew Smith, Micanor Regis and a few others becoming mid round picks to compliment a handful of top guys the 2008 class could produce.

Remember these guys are just freshmen. The sky is the limit for them. When Sean Taylor was a freshman, everyone wrote him off because he didn't see the field. Let these kids develop. There is plenty to work with and tons of potential for them to turn into top tier NFL talents. They are all on their way if their freshman year is any indication.

I'm only projecting the players based on where they are physically. I love the talent and depth of our team right now but the 08 class is more quantity than quality. Our biggest contributors aren't really "freakish" and most have holes that will keep their stock from skyrocketing.

I disagree about Spence/Sims. What made Sims a top-10 pick was his freakish explosiveness and hit power. Not to mention sub-4.5 speed. He was also one of the best HS LBs of all time. Spence is a solid athlete and LB, but he doesn't have the speed and explosion to overcome his lack of size.

Benajmin is a blur but he's also tiny. Late-1st at best. He would need Maclin production to become the next Maclin.

Marcus Forston will be one of the top DTs in his class. No question.

Telemaque lacks timed speed. He won't get drafted higher than Kenny Phillips.

The sky's the limit for Arthur.

I'm a big Marcus Robinson fan. I think he's a definite 1st round talent as a rush LB. I'd compare him to LaMarr Woodley as he keeps putting on bulk.

The guys you mentioned in the 2nd paragraph are all solid prospects, many of which should be more than just mid-round picks. Regis and Byrd could become top prospects.

djp
03-10-2009, 04:22 PM
I took the Miami job after 2 years with Louisiana Tech in my NCAA Dynasty...

Aldarius Johnson and Sean Spence kicked ass. Travis Benjamin transfered.

There are your predictions, mark it down.

Did you create Travis Benjamin yourself? Because he's not in the game until you edit players or create him from scratch. Same with Collier, Byrd, Ben Jones, etc.

I'm in an online dynasty right now as USC and my buddy is Florida... we battle for top 5 recruits on a yearly basis. It's a blast.

Florida is so sick to recruit with. Everything is elite, I swear.

JoeyJr09
03-10-2009, 08:40 PM
Did you create Travis Benjamin yourself? Because he's not in the game until you edit players or create him from scratch. Same with Collier, Byrd, Ben Jones, etc.

I'm in an online dynasty right now as USC and my buddy is Florida... we battle for top 5 recruits on a yearly basis. It's a blast.

Florida is so sick to recruit with. Everything is elite, I swear.

enter ExtremeGamer in the EA Locker.

gives you the update roster with all the correct players.

sbh15
03-10-2009, 08:44 PM
Did you create Travis Benjamin yourself? Because he's not in the game until you edit players or create him from scratch. Same with Collier, Byrd, Ben Jones, etc.

I'm in an online dynasty right now as USC and my buddy is Florida... we battle for top 5 recruits on a yearly basis. It's a blast.

Florida is so sick to recruit with. Everything is elite, I swear.

Yeah they are, it's awesome. And no, I didn't create Benjamin. I know a guy from another MB who had named rosters, fully updated, so I used the XBOX live download feature to steal them. :P

I started a Dynasty with Michigan just for the hell of it, I had 22 five stars interested and I usually hit on 75% of the guys I target, so that class would have been sick.

We should probably take this to another thread, but I've been playing crazy NCAA lately. Had a lot of cool games.

ToldLikeItIs
03-22-2009, 06:45 AM
Iowa

Martin Hopkins - 6'3 240 MLB. Future DT, and Mitch King clone for Iowa. Great frame, rangy, and long, with a powerfully built upper body and no lower body, as of right now. Quick and aware, I think he will be one heck of a DT down the road. We're not looking at a first round guy, but he'll certainly be drafted between rounds 4-6.

Nolan MacMillian - 6'6 286 OT. 17 years old, young kid originally from Canada who just started playing American ball. Not many know about him, but he really blew up as the year went on. Every one of our starting LT's since the Ferentz era has been drafted, and I see MacMillan taking the reins after Bulaga leaves either in 2010, or 2011. Great measurables, 4.9, 350 BP, and an impressive frame. I think he'll weigh 320 pretty easily. Round 2-4.

Micah Hyde - 6'1 180 CB. Played QB in High School, really did well in Ohio. I like his size, speed, and awaresness. He'll put on some good weight, and be a Bradley Fletcher type DB for us down the road. I really like his upside and just overral athletic ability. He could also play safety, but I don't think he has the frame to be an NFL safety. Round 3-5.

Potential First rounder? None. Stephane Ngoumou would be my choice. 6'4 200 WR with big time speed, game, size, potential, but some behavioral issues. I can't remember the last Iowa WR drafted even in the first four rounds, considering him a first round pick at this point is a total assumptive stretch, but he would be my choice.

Race for the Heisman
03-22-2009, 02:54 PM
Ohio State

1. Dominic Clarke - DB - Could be the next Antoine Winfield in my mind.
2. Storm Klein - LB - Great straight-line speed and overall great athleticism. I think he could be a later first day linebacker. Maybe a bit like Cushing.
3. Sam Longo - OT - Probably won't start much given the talent in front of him, but I could see him ending up something like Troy Kropog (middle) or Eben Britton (higher end).
4. Marcus Hall - Something like a guard/right tackle tweener who is perhaps an early day two pick/late day one pick (Andy Levitre?)
5. Melvin Fellows - I see a good base end who, if he develops a decent pass rush repertoire, could go in the second, but the middle of day two is more likely. A bit better than Jay Richardson.
6. James Jackson - Could be the next Santonio Holmes, but I'm not really high on him.
7. Duron Carter - Something like Brian Robiskie, but will fall further due to lack of timed speed.
8. Jamie Wood - Jairus Byrd at best, probably something worse.
9. Corey Brown - Dwayne Jarrett?
10. Jordan Whiting - Maurice Crum Jr.
11. John Simon - Mitch King

Not exactly the most conventional picks, but there's a few guys in there I really like.

Texas Homer
03-29-2009, 01:55 AM
True Freshman LB Tariq Allen for Texas is a really big downhill LB that has a lot of talent and potential. I think he ends up at MLB. I also think coach Muschamp will make a Beast out of him.

JHG722
04-05-2009, 03:59 PM
The only person from our class that I could possibly project would be

DT Kadeem Custis
6'4 275 should be able to run a sub 5 forty.

Had offers from Duke, WVU, UConn, ECU, Maryland, NC State and Pitt

Hines
04-05-2009, 05:39 PM
The only person from our class that I could possibly project would be

DT Kadeem Custis
6'4 275 should be able to run a sub 5 forty.

Had offers from Duke, WVU, UConn, ECU, Maryland, NC State and Pitt

I also like Levi Brown. Kid is a stud. But agreed on Kadeem.

JHG722
04-05-2009, 06:11 PM
I also like Levi Brown. Kid is a stud. But agreed on Kadeem.

Yeah, Levi's pretty good too, but Kadeem is our closest 'sure thing'

Christopher Hitchens
04-06-2009, 11:35 PM
Bryce Brown (haha Miami hacks your program is garbage)
Janzen Jackson
Greg King

Race for the Heisman
04-07-2009, 12:06 AM
Not my school, by Dre Kirkpatrick reminds me of Terrell Thomas (Southern Cal).

Sniper
04-07-2009, 12:08 AM
Not my school, by Dre Kirkpatrick reminds me of Terrell Thomas (Southern Cal).

...except much better.

BRAVEHEART
04-07-2009, 12:10 AM
...except much better.

As a prospect coming out HS, yeah a whole lot better.

IrishTrojan
04-07-2009, 01:16 AM
i feel that kirkpatrick was overrated.

etk
04-07-2009, 04:45 PM
Bryce Brown (haha Miami hacks your program is garbage)
Janzen Jackson
Greg King

haha you guys won like 3 games last year
haha we pulled his offer...enjoy our sloppy seconds
haha you're now on my ignore list

BigJohn98
04-07-2009, 05:29 PM
Bryce Brown (haha Miami hacks your program is garbage)
Janzen Jackson
Greg King

Tennessee fan calling another program garbage? Hah. Have fun with Kiffin. Have fun getting steamrolled again in the Swamp this year.

JHG722
04-07-2009, 06:14 PM
Bryce Brown (haha Miami hacks your program is garbage)
Janzen Jackson
Greg King

Kiffin is one of the sleaziest people in sports. Congratulations!

Race for the Heisman
04-08-2009, 10:05 AM
...except much better.

I meant final product-wise. I don't see him pulling a Vince Young or Adrian Peterson and being a top prospect in high school and going on to college.

LizardState
06-16-2009, 05:21 PM
2009 signee DB Demarcus Milliner in 2010 for Alabama, if he keeps running 4.3 40s & puts on 12-15 lbs.

LizardState
06-16-2009, 05:31 PM
Not my school, by Dre Kirkpatrick reminds me of Terrell Thomas (Southern Cal).

CBs Dre Kirkpatrick & 2009 signee Demarcus Milliner, if he keeps running 4.3 40s & puts on 12-15 lbs.

Add RB Trent Richardson, 5-11 220, #1-ranked in the nation, Escambia HS, Pensacola, FL, same HS as Emmitt Smith.

TACKLE
06-16-2009, 09:18 PM
Iowa Potential First rounder? None.

Did that just happen?

Saints 4 Lyfe
06-16-2009, 11:51 PM
LSU

Chris Davenport DT 6'4" 310 lbs-Being thrown around he's good enough to start as a true freshman. Expect him to get SERIOUS playing time this year in the rotation. I think he's as fast off the snap as any defensive tackle to ever suit up at LSU. Crazy athleticism.

Chris Faulk OT 6'6" 310 lbs-Physically, he's ready. He may need time to adjust to the speed of the game but he will hold down one of the tackle spots for 3 years easy.

Craig Loston S 6'2" 193 lbs-Continuing the amazing line of safety's to come out of LSU is Craig Loston. This guy is a small LaRon Landry. All it will take is for one person to challenge him and go over the middle for the fear to be put in everyone's eyes.

ncst8fan83
06-16-2009, 11:55 PM
NC State -

OG Denzelle Good 6'6" 325 (Gaffney, SC) - Great technician and should be an anchor at Guard for the next 4 years.

CB Jarvis Byrd 5'10" 170 (Pahokee, FL) - Cousin of Alphonso Smith and basically plays like him. Absolute ballhawk and will thrive in our zone schemes.

TE Asa Watson 6'4" 200 (Rock Hill, SC) - Little brother of Ben Watson. Is kind of a WR/TE 'tweener at the moment, but a redshirt year should get him on track weight-wise.

lordquas
06-17-2009, 05:59 AM
how about boone and chancellor from VT??
i liked them

CashmoneyDrew
06-17-2009, 12:24 PM
how about boone and chancellor from VT??
i liked them

These are potential first rounders from teams 2009 recruiting class.

JFLO
08-07-2009, 08:31 PM
I'm feeling pretty confident in either C.J. Barnett or Corey Brown going to the next level. Both are bound to have good playing time by there sophomore junior years and develop really well.

I'm iffy on Dorian Bell

Sleeper to watch though would be offensive lineman Marcus Hall from Cleveland.

ToldLikeItIs
08-08-2009, 07:49 AM
Alright, Nolan MacMillan OL has the best chance.

I think I stated that previously, but if I didn't, I am definitely now. He grew an inch and a half since we recruited him and put on a smooth twenty lbs. He now checks in at 6'7 1/2 318, but runs a 4.8 and benches about 400 lbs. Scored a 32 on his ACT too.

So yeah, that's who I'm calling to be a first rounder.

etk
08-19-2009, 09:55 AM
Alright, Nolan MacMillan OL has the best chance.

I think I stated that previously, but if I didn't, I am definitely now. He grew an inch and a half since we recruited him and put on a smooth twenty lbs. He now checks in at 6'7 1/2 318, but runs a 4.8 and benches about 400 lbs. Scored a 32 on his ACT too.

So yeah, that's who I'm calling to be a first rounder.

How insane would that be....a guy that goes to school 10-15 min from where I live who I've never even heard of becomes a 1st round pick.

ToldLikeItIs
08-19-2009, 11:30 AM
Just the Hawkeye way.

He's already the #2 LT behind Bulaga.

etk
08-26-2009, 03:25 PM
Just the Hawkeye way.

He's already the #2 LT behind Bulaga.

Well then he should be a 3 year starter.

Don Vito
08-26-2009, 03:40 PM
For Ole Miss, there are a couple of guys I could see with big time NFL potential.

WR Patrick Patterson goes about 6-3 215 and is a very complete WR. He has super hands, is physical, and is a very good athlete. Nutt has already come out and said he will be playing right away.

DL Craig Drummond came to Ole Miss as a DE but Nutt wants to play him in the Justin Tuck mold, with Drummond perhaps becoming a full time DT. He was already physically imposing for a HS senior after enrolling early in December, but now he has really developed and goes about 6-5 275. Depending on what direction the coaching staff goes with him, he could project to a variety of NFL positions due to his sheer talent.

OT Bobby Massie is an absolute mammoth at 6-7 340, he pushed John Jerry around a little in his first practice and Jerry said he has flat out ridiculous pure strength. He is very raw but you can't teach his size and athleticism. A lot of people want to see him fill in for Oher right away but I don't think he is ready, but with a some coaching this kid could end up being the real deal.