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D-Unit
03-11-2009, 10:46 PM
I figured this is kinda fun... I like to do this to a few players every year and since these posts always get burried year after year, I thought this would be a nice way to find it again in the future when we look back and laugh. :D

So go ahead... Hype someone up! Post pics, videos, stats, personal analysis/opinions... the WORKS! :p

LonghornsLegend
03-12-2009, 12:12 AM
Good idea, I'll start with the one guy I've been a fan of for some time(as well as Thule):


Derek Pegues, FS, Miss. St. 5'10 200lbs

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Excellent range in the secondary, Sylvester Croom touted him as being easily the most talented player on their entire team.



Good instincts and field awareness, ball hawk and always around the ball, you won't find a safety who tracks the ball better in the air.



Has experience playing Corner back and he did it well, versatile guys in the secondary are valuable, that would give us two safeties who can play both spots and another safety who can play corner, lots of options with how we want to line guys up.



Was named All-SEC at two different positions, you have to dig deep to find guys who have been All-SEC at two different positions, 2nd team as a CB, 1st team twice as a FS, probably just scratching his potential as a FS.



Was the #4 corner in the nation out of HS, also the last guy to make All-SEC team 3 years in a row was 7 years ago, SEVEN!



Special Teams? Check. He holds the school record for KO returns and averaged 23.1 per return, in retrospect Felix was 2nd in the nation averaging 31 coming out, 4th all-time in PR yardage.



Look at the reaction time when the ball is in the air:

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Again, his ball awareness is so impressive, fav quote "A guy who just makes plays, in so many different ways:

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Punt Return TD, he's just deadly with the ball in his hands:

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Followed the season up with a strong showing in the Senior Bowl:

* Mississippi State defensive back Derek Pegues… have liked his play style, getting aggressive with receivers and showing the ability to stick with nearly all of them during 1-on-1 drills. Fluid hips and likes to come up and get involved versus the run. Certain teams view him at cornerback and others free safety. Can also provide a dangerous return man to the team that selects him.
http://seahawknationblog.com/2009/01/all-star-senior-bowl-report-day-2/



S Derek Pegues
- Pegues is a player that will save any team a roster spot. He played pretty well in coverage in center field and roamed from sideline to sideline from his safety position. He also returned kicks showed a decent burst. He can play corner but didn’t get any reps at the position in the game.

http://forums.thephins.com/showthread.php?p=563931



Mississippi State FS Derek Pegues showcased good burst and closing speed at corner. Pegues was the nation’s top cornerback prospect coming out of high school and demonstrated he still has the ability to line up over the slot at the next level. He was a bit rusty with his footwork, but his ability to click and close on balls was tops among the South’s defensive backs.
http://www.clanram.com/forums/f85/official-senior-bowl-news-notes-thread-34458/



Derek Pegues, S, Mississippi State. He helped himself a lot by measuring in more than 5-9 and looked excellent in practice. He is muscular, ripped up and well built.
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=509069



10. Derek Pegues, DB/Mississippi St: Versatility is the key, looks like a CB and can play S. Gets to top speed very fast. Played aggressive today and made some good tackles.
http://maxnfldraft.blogspot.com/2009/02/senior-bowl-game-report.html





This guy is a 3rd-4th round talent and gives us the option to go in another direction in the 2nd(LT is what I have been feeling for a minute)...He's a different safety then Sensabaugh but this rules out Scandrick moving all together, the guy is simply a ball hawk that makes plays when the ball is in the air, when is the last time we had that at safety?


William Moore is too close to RW, he made some great tackles but looked sluggish in his breaks and keeping up with WR's, I don't want another in the box guy who can't cover either, Pegues is a guy who will be a pure centerfielder, but really could capitalize off of the pressure we create, and it would be nice to have a FS that actually knows how to force turnovers.


I see Ed Reed in him, always have, we may very well pass him up and there are other guys I love(Sean Smith, Rashad Johnson), but nobody at safety has impressed me as much as this guy has all year.

Don Vito
03-12-2009, 12:17 AM
Pegues could end up being a steal, he is a flat out playmaker. He really didn't have too much talent around him at State but he was an impact player on defense and special teams, he beat us on a PR TD in the 2007 Egg Bowl. He isn't great against the run but he is a ballhawk and a playmaker for sure, he's a football player.

thule
03-12-2009, 12:24 AM
Reserved for Jason Williams

JJJ888
03-12-2009, 08:07 AM
Derek Pegues, FS, Miss. St. 5'10 200lbs


That's a nice writeup. You've got me sold. Anyone wanna give the opposite side of the story?

leroyisgod
03-12-2009, 08:15 AM
Derek Pegues, FS, Miss. St. 5'10 200lbs


Well I'm sold after watching these highlights.

UTPATS
03-12-2009, 08:55 AM
ERIC WOOD C/G Louisville
Height: 6307 Weight: 310 lbs.

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Even though his combine numbers looked good:

225: 30 Reps
10 yd: 1.68
Vertical: 30.5

It was his performance in the Senior Bowl against B.J. Raji that sold me on this guy. I will keep trying and find the video on it, but for the entire first half of the game, B.J. was dominated by Wood on numerous occations.

His versitilty to play Center, Guard and even Right Tackle in a pinch makes me really like his value on our Roster.

For 2008 Alone
-All-American third-team choice by The NFL Draft Report
-All-Big East Conference first-team selection
-Finalist for the Rimington Trophy
-Started all twelve games at center, recording 78 knockdowns, sixteen touchdown-resulting blocks and four down-field blocks to receive a blocking consistency grade of 87.08 percent
-Was penalized three times
-Did not allow any sacks or pressures on 391 pass plays

Started 49 straight games in college, earning All-Conference Awards 3 years.

I am still trying to figure out how I can get some Senior Bowl clips on here where he is pushing Raji 5-6 yards off of the line!

Macarthur
03-12-2009, 09:18 AM
OK. So far, I want both of these kids! :)

D-Unit
03-12-2009, 01:24 PM
Don't quote the whole original post guys... this thread would get ugly. Just partial is fine.

Also, I'm deleting posts if they are hyping up a guy with "the works" like LL just did.

This is "Hype a Prospect!"...

UPSTATS, you need to add more on Wood. We have a draft thread for what you did.

LonghornsLegend
03-12-2009, 02:13 PM
Also, I'm deleting posts if they are hyping up a guy with "the works" like LL just did.

So are you saying you don't want lengthy post about prospects, or you just mean don't quote lengthy post?

E-Man
03-12-2009, 05:23 PM
I wasn't up on college this year like I used to be, but I have a guy I can hype personally. Mr. Mike "Keyon" Thomas from Arizona. I went to high school with the guy. He was a sophomore my senior year, and he's always been a playmaker. Back then he played CB/WR, and he was our best return man out of a bunch of good return men. Watching him in college he has great speed and quickness. He is also the Pac 10 all time career receptions leader. His only knock is height, but I think in the 4th round he could be a nice Sproles type find. Let him handle return duty, and have him occasionally play in the slot to cause match-up problems. Imagine a guy with speed like that in the slot along side Austin. He doesn't have to curtail Austin and Hurd's development either. He can simply play 5th WR while handling return duties. By the time Crayton is gone he could be developed into a nice 3rd option wideout by then.

D-Unit
03-12-2009, 05:43 PM
So are you saying you don't want lengthy post about prospects, or you just mean don't quote lengthy post?
No yours was awesome! Better than I expected. I was talking about the responses when people quoted your post. When people quote posts about hyped prospects, I just wanted them to edit the original so it's not so long. Makes the conversation cleaner.

thule
03-12-2009, 10:41 PM
I wasn't up on college this year like I used to be, but I have a guy I can hype personally. Mr. Mike "Keyon" Thomas from Arizona. I went to high school with the guy. He was a sophomore my senior year, and he's always been a playmaker. Back then he played CB/WR, and he was our best return man out of a bunch of good return men. Watching him in college he has great speed and quickness. He is also the Pac 10 all time career receptions leader. His only knock is height, but I think in the 4th round he could be a nice Sproles type find. Let him handle return duty, and have him occasionally play in the slot to cause match-up problems. Imagine a guy with speed like that in the slot along side Austin. He doesn't have to curtail Austin and Hurd's development either. He can simply play 5th WR while handling return duties. By the time Crayton is gone he could be developed into a nice 3rd option wideout by then.

He is my favorite WR if he is available with our second fourth...but I just don't see it....he is going to be a good nfl player....he will be one of the best WRs from this draft imo...not a #1 guy....but a good #2.

D-Unit
03-13-2009, 04:14 AM
"Brandon Tate could probably play for every team I've coached for the last 34 years. He is a great kid. You love the way he approaches it. There's a lot of guys who don't like to return kicks and punts. He is electrifying. He makes guys miss. You need guys like that that can change field position and change the complexion of the game." -- coach Butch Davis, on Tate's performance.


Allow me to introduce the beast known as #87 Brandon Tate, 6'1", 195 North Carolina University extroirdinaire.

http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/tate_brandon00.html

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http://media.charlotteobserver.com/smedia/2008/09/20/20/835-SPORTS_FBC-VATECH-UNC_3_RA.standalone.prod_affiliate.138.JPG


Scott Wright's Blog in September wrote:

• If someone had asked me a couple of months ago which North Carolina wide receiver was the best pro prospect the answer would have been Brooks Foster. In fact, it would have been a no-brainer. However, I guess that is why they play the games... Not to take anything away from Foster, who is still a good player and a solid prospect in his own right, but it's his teammate Brandon Tate that really has scouts around the league buzzing.

With a grand total of 30 career receptions to his name coming into the '08 season Tate was considered by most to be, at best, a marginal late round prospect who would have to carve out a niche as a return specialist to make it at the next level. Well, Tate is still an excellent return man, averaging 31.1 yards on kicks and 28.2 yards on punts this year, but he has also emerged as a legitimate receiving threat and playmaker on offense with 11 catches for 297 yards (27.0 avg.) and 3 touchdowns in the Tar Heels first three games. For good measure Tate has also carried the ball 7 times for 141 yards (20.1 avg.) and a score.

That's what you call a jack-of-all-trades!

At 6-1 and 195 lbs. Tate definitely has the size you look for and even though his timed speed (4.5) is relatively average he plays faster once the pads are on and is very elusive. As a result of his sudden outburst scouts are becoming increasingly enamored with Tate and he has begun to see his draft stock soar. In fact, some are already stamping third and fourth round grades on Tate and if he manages to keep up this pace who knows how high he could eventually climb. Might he be a poor-man's Devin Thomas?

Every year we see prospects seemingly come out of nowhere and Tate appears to be one of those guys. In recent years it seems as though the NFL has placed more of an emphasis on versatility and game changing return men, which bodes well for Tate because he earns very high marks in both categories.



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First play.. kickoff return for long gain where he jukes, maintains full speed while doing a fricken pirouette and running down the field.

Second play.. Stretches his body out for the catch... Does it again at the 45 second mark on a deep play down the middle.

Check out how many deep passes he catches throughout.

1:40 mark... Tell me this is not vintage TO. Takes the pass on a short slant, breaks the tackle like TO, and runs down the sideline with no shoe. Even the body coordination, movement is very TO like.

2:29 mark... Check out those shifty jukes and then burst to the left down the sideline... Looks like Chris Johnson speed putting defenders in slow motion.

3 min mark... fights for the ball in the air. Grabs it over the face of the defender...

3:30 mark... A very TO like reverse play for TD.



Led the ACC in kick returns in 2007. Has the explosiveness of Felix Jones at the WR position. Just like Felix, his 40 time won't wow you, but his field speed definitely will.

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In case you still don't believe...

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13 sec mark... Straight line speed... Class over... any questions?

32 sec mark... How many times have we seen Stanback fall down on the first hit??? Tate makes me forget those bad memories.

52 sec mark... Sweet Holy Jesus.... No that's no fast forwarded. Punt returning at it's finest.

1:15 sec mark... A hand off... Now you're just f'n kidding me... No, I'm not. :D

1:38.. Se........par............a............tion........ ..............!

Rest of video... Enjoy... Should we just give it to him on every down? :)

Big news as Tate is lost for the season... Teammates and coaches express his importance.

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Mel Kiper on Brandon Tate... Week 6 Breakout star. 1:10 mark.

Listen to some music while you check out some news, notes and the picture gallery. :p

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Analysis from *************.


Positives: Long, lean build. Good quickness, size and hand strength to get off the line of scrimmage against press coverage. Emerging route-runner with the quick feet and balance to ultimately be quite good in this area. More quick than fast, though he has good acceleration. Elusive in the open field and has the vision to set up his blocks and break into the open field. Soft hands. Good body control and flexibility to contort his body for the poorly thrown pass. Can extend to make the diving grab. Good height and long arms and uses the combination well to high-point passes over smaller cornerbacks. Excellent returner with NFL ability for punt and kickoff returns.

Negatives: Torn ACL and MCL in October means he may not be able to answer questions about his straight-line speed until after the draft. Primarily a return specialist until flashing as a receiver as a senior. A bit raw as a route-runner. Relies on his athletic ability in this area, rather than precise footwork.

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• NCAA career leader in combined kick returns yards (kickoffs & punts) with 3,523 yards

• ACC career leader in kickoff returns (109) and kickoff return yardage (2,688)

• One of only nine players in NCAA history to return a kickoff and a punt for a touchdown in the same game (Duke, 2006)

• Holds the UNC single-season and career records for most kick returns for touchdowns.

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09/01/08 - North Carolina 35, McNeese State 27 -- Senior Brandon Tate had a record-setting night with 397 all-purpose yards, including touchdown runs of 82 yards on a punt return and a 57-yard pass reception, to lead the Tar Heels.

http://media.scout.com/media/image/58/587327.jpg

09/15/08 - GAME BALL GOES TO: Brandon Tate -- After piling up 397 all-purpose yards in the opener (rushing, receiving and kickoff and punt returns), Tate was back in form against Rutgers. He scored on a 69-yard pass play among his four catches (138 total yards receiving) and a 12-yard run, plus had 58 yards on two kickoff returns and one punt return of four yards.

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/49/499057.jpg

09/19/08 - PLAYERS TO WATCH: WR Brandon Tate was mostly a return specialist in his previous season, but he is making a big contribution from the line of scrimmage in this campaign. He actually is Carolina's leading rusher with 125 yards on five carries and has eight catches for 231 yards.

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/49/494596.jpg

09/24/08 - PLAYERS TO WATCH: WR Brandon Tate is one of the most electrifying players in the country. He not only can break off a big play in the passing game but also is a threat in the return game. He leads the ACC in receiving yards per game (99.0) and punt-return yardage (28.2 on five returns) and is second in kickoff-return yardage (31.1 average per return).

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09/27/08 - North Carolina senior Brandon Tate has broken the NCAA record for combined kick return yardage. Tate came into the Tar Heels game Saturday against Miami 36 yards shy of the 3,455 yards Deltha O'Neal had for California from 1996-99. Tate broke the mark by the end of the first quarter after returning kickoffs 19 and 29 yards. Tate is closing in on several other NCAA return milestones. He came into Saturday's game 391 yards shy of the kickoff return record owned by Tulane's Jeff Liggon. The wide receiver also is closing in on becoming the 11th player in history with more than 1,000 career return yards on both kickoffs and punts. - AP Sports

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/1010/nfl_u_tate_412s.jpg

09/29/08 - WR Brandon Tate continues to contribute in many ways for North Carolina. He not only had three catches for 62 yards vs. Miami, including a 37-yarder on a third-and-10 situation in Carolina's second touchdown drive, he also completed a 12-yard pass in the Tar Heels' first scoring drive after giving the Heels good field position with a 29-yard kickoff return. His 67 yards on three kickoff returns gave him an NCAA-record 3,549 yards for his career in kickoff and punt returns.

http://blogs.newsobserver.com/sites/drupalblogs.newsobserver.com/files/images/tate.jpg

10/03/08 - PLAYERS TO WATCH: WR Brandon Tate can win a game with his receiving (14 catches, three for touchdowns), running (nine carries, 142 yards, one touchdown), punt returns (28.2-yard average, 82-yarder for a touchdown) or kickoff returns (28.5-yard average, long of 56).

http://www.chathamjournal.com/weekly/moxiepix/b1_3707.jpg

10/16/08 - QUOTE TO NOTE: "The good news is that he will be back, and he will recover from this. I shared with him that two of the best receivers that I ever had the opportunity to be around as a coach both had equally significantly damaging injuries." -- coach Butch Davis, on the injury to WR Brandon Tate, referring to his experiences with former Miami stars Michael Irvin and Reggie Wayne.


I want this guy so bad, my bones hurt.

LonghornsLegend
03-13-2009, 09:31 AM
Damn I didn't know he was that good of a return man, 31 per kickoff return is awesome, he's got some great explosiveness and I don't think they would let someone like him last until the 5th round.

thenewfeature06
03-13-2009, 09:40 AM
Brandon Tate is the man he is not a Devin Thomas

thule
03-13-2009, 10:07 AM
Explosive - check
Zone Recognition - check
ball skills - check
swaggar - check
special teams help - check

5 things I look for in a WR...I'll be happy with the selection.

E-Man
03-13-2009, 10:43 AM
Nice post on Brandon Tate D! I saw him play a few times at UNC and liked him. He could be another one of those guys that ends up being a steal.

LonghornsLegend
03-13-2009, 11:04 AM
1:40 mark... Tell me this is not vintage TO. Takes the pass on a short slant, breaks the tackle like TO, and runs down the sideline with no shoe. Even the body coordination, movement is very TO like.


Lol this was pretty sick though, he shook Kenny Phillips in a stand still position with one shoe on and blew right past him and Phillips is a great athlete...That's very impressive to see that type of explosion, so the Tar Heels were rocking Tate and Nicks at WR? No wonder they were good for a change.

Macarthur
03-13-2009, 11:14 AM
Wow. I was not that familiar with this kid. I think we need to think about PR while filling our needs; this kid would be a good fit. And having him back there with Felix on KR would be solid. I like him a lot.

D-Unit
03-13-2009, 12:54 PM
I'm sitting here all excited and crap about hyping up Tate...

Then I read this???

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3975501&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines

"Jerry Jones says drafting wide receiver not Cowboys' priority"

Now I'm just trying to find the good in this....

1. We won't be drafting a WR early at least... and Tate is a 4th-5th round prospect. So that's good.

and 2. "The good news with our team right now is we can go about any direction we want to in the draft and pick the best player."

That means if the BPA is a WR, it might be Tate! :D

D-Unit
03-13-2009, 01:03 PM
Damn I didn't know he was that good of a return man, 31 per kickoff return is awesome, he's got some great explosiveness and I don't think they would let someone like him last until the 5th round.
Yeah PR would be absolutely solved. He's such a weapon in the offense. He can be used on reverses, hand offs, and he's a knock out deep threat artist. Garrett could get really creative with a guy like this. We've been telling each other that we need a guy who can stretch the field since Terry Glenn left town. The Zampese offense calls for a guy like this. We had one in Alvin Harper in the 90's... but Tate has the potential to be even better. If not for that ACL injury... we'd be talking about a first rounder. We tend to hit our 4th round picks when we grab guys who fall for one reason or the other... I'm hoping Tate is our pick with one of our 2 4ths.

thenewfeature06
03-14-2009, 08:56 AM
Wow. I was not that familiar with this kid. I think we need to think about PR while filling our needs; this kid would be a good fit. And having him back there with Felix on KR would be solid. I like him a lot.

He can be a very good reciever too, isn't just a PR, he can be coached up and be a very good wideout but will also have to improve his route running while it is still very raw

Brent
03-14-2009, 09:42 AM
"Jerry Jones says drafting wide receiver not Cowboys' priority"

Now I'm just trying to find the good in this....

1. We won't be drafting a WR early at least... and Tate is a 4th-5th round prospect. So that's good.

and 2. "The good news with our team right now is we can go about any direction we want to in the draft and pick the best player."

That means if the BPA is a WR, it might be Tate! :D
That reads like Jerry doesnt know how to put up a smokescreen. haha.

JJJ888
03-14-2009, 10:22 AM
Ok, my turn.

Chris Pizzotti, QB, Harvard

http://media.thecrimson.com/11-19-2007/pic-500-1206364.jpg

Pizzotti may have played in Division 1-AA (FCS), but he was a man among boys in the Ivy League. Pizzotti's competition may have been sub-par, but so were his teammates, at least by NFL standards. He has the smarts, accuracy, and decision-making skills to be a quality NFL quarterback, although he may never get a chance to be a full-time starter. To me, he has Ryan Fitzpatrick/Jason Garrett written all over him.

Strengths: Accuracy is very good...Decision-making is excellent as he threw just 4 interceptions to 17 touchdowns as a Senior...Excellent height at 6' 5"...Decent mobility and ability to pick up yardage on the ground (ran 4.83 40 yard time despite having food poisoning a week before)...Can throw on the run...Shows nice touch lofting the ball into holes in zone...Has that essential "moxie" trait quarterbacks need...Team leader and captain with excellent intangibles

Weaknesses: Arm strength is questionable, as I saw him underthrow a couple of deep balls...Level of competition will have to be questioned...Not great when facing pressure...

In the end, I can't see Pizzotti being much more than a late-round pick because of his low ceiling, but I still think he can be an effective career backup in the NFL, much in the mold of Jason Garrett. I could see Pizzotti coming in and very capably being able to manage a game, as well as be an effective teammate and study partner while on the sidelines and in the film room. I'm not sure that he's as good a prospect as Ryan Fitzpatrick was 4 years ago, but he should make an NFL roster somewhere, although I'm not sure that Dallas is the spot.

Here's the video of Harvard's game against Lehigh University...particularly note the TD throw at the 1 minute mark, beating double coverage:

http://www.gocrimson.com/newMediaPlayer/consolewmp.htm?id=149603&oemid=9000&SPID=&DB_MENU_ID=&CLIP_ID=144938&SPSID=&type=vod&CLIP_FILE_ID=149603&DB_OEM_ID=9000

Harvard also has an interesting prospect in Desmond Bryant, a height-weight-speed guy (6' 6", 288, with a 4.92 time in the 40; he also threw up 35 BP reps) who could play as a 3-4 DE...led Harvard with 8 QB hurries in 2008...another guy to consider as a late-round pick/ UDFA.

D-Unit
03-14-2009, 07:15 PM
What's with these Ivy League QB fetishes that you have? My taste is soured by the only Ivy League QB I know... Jason Garrett...

JJJ888
03-14-2009, 09:41 PM
What's with these Ivy League QB fetishes that you have? My taste is soured by the only Ivy League QB I know... Jason Garrett...

My dad was a Dartmouth guy, my grandfather and grandmother both went to Harvard. I went to school in the Boston area, and have a bunch of friends at Hahvahd. They're also one of the only teams I get to see play live each year.

The only other Ivy League QB I know (other than Garrett and Fitzpatrick) who has made a name for himself in the NFL is Jay Fiedler, who had moderate success for a couple of seasons. And Garrett wasn't terrible as a backup(in fact, I think he was pretty effective, although he never was going to be a starter...

On another note, I just wanted to gloat that a graduate of tiny Middlebury College, total enrollment 2200, a DIII program (where I go) is now the Ravens kickoff specialist and distance kicker. I mention this because he is the only Midd grad playing pro sports right now and I feel the need to gloat.

thule
03-15-2009, 12:38 AM
With all those connections you should have made something useful of yourself and went to school there.

On another note your dreaming...you don't bring in a backup to develop when you have Kitna....I think "if"...and thats a big if...you role the dice on a guy who has the chance to gain a return in the next three years...maybe someone falls and we've addressed our needs...but adding a ivy league backup to play third string makes no sense...guy would be PS at best.

FearTheSpur
03-15-2009, 11:15 AM
Might be a homer pick, but for me I am hyping Jasper Brinkley

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He arrived from a JUCO in 2006 for USC and immediately solidified his starting spot at MLB for the next three years. His first year he led the team in tackles with 107, more than twice as many as the next defender on the list. Also 79% of those tackles were solo (84 solos). Was made a consensus first team All-Conference selection (a great honor in the SEC).

In 2007 he dominated the first few games before being sidelined for the rest of the year by a knee injury sustained playing against LSU.

Returned in 2008 and despite being held out of plays on third downs, still had 65 tackles, 42 of which were solos. Was one of the best run defenders I've seen and although he wasn't a third down player this year, he definitely can still be in the future now that is knee is completely healed.

Now he is back in shape after the injury, going from 265 lbs during the season this year, to 252 lbs for the combine and regaining his speed posting a 4.72 40, better than both Rey Maualuga and James Laurinaitis, who are also considered to be 3 down LB's.

He fits great in the 3-4 as an ILB with his tremendous size and willingness to take on OL and punish ballcarriers.

Here he drives Tim Tebow back, not an easy feat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bipvpIfNgJo

And here he lays the wood on Micheal Henig of MSU and makes the great solo open field tackle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQsy4gU40Ss

Sorry, I don't know how to embed youtube videos or I would

Macarthur
03-15-2009, 11:28 AM
I like the looks of brinkley, too.

M.O.T.H.
03-15-2009, 04:17 PM
I love Brinkley, he is a great football player...but, I dont think he's right for this team. He's probably not going to be a 3 down LB right out of the gates. His coverage ability is just bad. As simple as that. He's pretty stiff/robotic in coverage...as for run defense and pass rush ability, he gives you a helluva lot but again, that may not be what we're looking for. He's pretty much Bradie James...we need someone who can play some nickel LB for us, in place of Brooking if possible. Then that player could hopefully be groomed into something more and be ready to take over when Keith departs. So yeah, I love Jasper and love his potential but, as for the actual fit here...it's not that good.

It's nice to have another SCAR/Cowboys fan...a rare breed. :D

FearTheSpur
03-15-2009, 05:09 PM
I love Brinkley, he is a great football player...but, I dont think he's right for this team. He's probably not going to be a 3 down LB right out of the gates. His coverage ability is just bad. As simple as that. He's pretty stiff/robotic in coverage...as for run defense and pass rush ability, he gives you a helluva lot but again, that may not be what we're looking for. He's pretty much Bradie James...we need someone who can play some nickel LB for us, in place of Brooking if possible. Then that player could hopefully be groomed into something more and be ready to take over when Keith departs. So yeah, I love Jasper and love his potential but, as for the actual fit here...it's not that good.

It's nice to have another SCAR/Cowboys fan...a rare breed. :D

Sure is, I know a few Clemson and Cowboys fans, but it's nice to have a South Carolina and cowboys fan.

Anyways, we'll have to agree to disagree. I think someone is going to land him and he will be one of the better LBs to come out of this draft. His knee is only going to become stronger and someone is going to coach him up to be a better pass defender.

However, I'd really like to see us land Norwood as a pass rusher for next year. He's my favorite gamecock.

M.O.T.H.
03-15-2009, 05:13 PM
Sure is, I know a few Clemson and Cowboys fans, but it's nice to have a South Carolina and cowboys fan.

Anyways, we'll have to agree to disagree. I think someone is going to land him and he will be one of the better LBs to come out of this draft. His knee is only going to become stronger and someone is going to coach him up to be a better pass defender.

However, I'd really like to see us land Norwood as a pass rusher for next year. He's my favorite gamecock.

Dont get me wrong...I think Jasper is going to make a team very happy but, he doesnt really fit our need at ILB. We're going to need someone who is decent to good in coverage, right now. The fact that Brooking may have to play 3 downs along side James is scary.

D-Unit
03-15-2009, 11:16 PM
Brinkley reminds me of Jeremiah Trotter. Brings a lot of passion to the game and is good going forward and sidewards, but backwards is an area that could use work.

D-Unit
03-16-2009, 02:46 AM
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Darcel McBath, 6-0, 198 pounds
Safety, Texas Tech

Transcribed by Jeff Schudel NHBrowns@sbcglobal.net


Q: What kind of safety are you going to be in the NFL?

A: A ball-hawking safety. Make plays on balls. That’s the kind of safety I’m going to be.

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Q: You had seven interceptions as a senior. You must have pretty good hands.

A: Over the years I’ve developed my hands. I see the ball coming in, I catch it.
I dropped only one in my career.

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Q: There seems to be quite a disparity in predraft reports about where you rank among safeties.

A: A lot of people have asked me about that the last few days. It’s part of the process.
I’ll try to show my skills here. Hopefully they’ll go back and look at the film and I
can get a little more pub and they’ll move me up a little bit. I’m trying to improve
my stock here at the combine.


Q: You have a reputation of being a good special teams player.

A: Throughout my career I’ve played everything. I’ll do anything they ask of me.

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Q: Are you a hard-hitting safety?

A: I hit hard. You have to let everybody feel it sometimes.



Q: Have you always played football?

A: I started in Pee-Wee. I stopped when I got to high school and started up again
as a junior. Then I earned a scholarship, went to college, had a successful career and here I am now.


Q: What made you skip your first two years in high school?

A: I was a basketball guy. I had basketball fever. I played AAU basketball. Ii didn’t
have time for football. I played basketball year round.

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Q: What do you hope to accomplish here at the combine?

A: I want to show how athletic I am. Teams want to see my range, how fast I can run,
how high I can jump – my measureables.

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Q: How did your time at Tech prepare you for the NFL?

A: I played some of the best receivers in the country. Passing on almost every down,
I think I’ll be prepared in that aspect. I’ll definitely be ready to defend the pass.

I got the best of (Crabtree) most of the time.

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Q: What are your coverage skills like?

A: I have good cover skills. I was a corner before I moved to free safety. I’ve used
them over the years. As a safety I moved down to cover the inside receivers.



Q: When did you make that move?

A: my sophomore year, so I was a safety for three years.

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Q: Are those low rankings a chip on your shoulder?

A: I think you always should have a chip on your shoulder. Even if they say good
things about you, turn it into a negative. Unfortunately, I have a lot negative things
said about me. I feel I have some things to prove, and I’ll prove them.

I know what I’m capable of. My film shows what I’m capable of. Anybody who wants to go
watch the film, go watch it. I stand behind it. I think I’m a great player. I think I’m
the best free safety here. I’ll have time to prove it if I get in the league. I’m going
to compete this week and show what I can do.



Q: Did anyone tell you where you might be drafted?

A: I’ve heard everywhere from third to fifth. It depends on what I do here.


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http://video.aol.com/video-detail/nfl-draft-prospect-darcel-mcbath/1929425650


Combine Results
Height: 6002
Weight: 198
40 Yrd Dash: 4.58
20 Yrd Dash: 2.63
10 Yrd Dash: 1.56
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 14
Vertical Jump: 38
Broad Jump: 09'11"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.16
3-Cone Drill: 6.80

Pro Day Results
Dates: 03/12/09
Height: 6002
Weight: 198
40 Yrd Dash: 4.53
20 Yrd Dash: 2.62
10 Yrd Dash: 1.53
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 17
Broad Jump: 10'00"

Here's a guy I really like because I think he can play either safety spot and we wouldn't need to use our 2nd rounder or 3rd rounder to address Safety. A local product of the state who has faced A LOT of passing in the Big 12 since their adaption of more spread passing offenses. A converted corner with good size and adequate speed. I think he's got some of the better instincts in this Safety class and he's flying under the radar right now. Wish I had more video to show you, but it's limited... he is underrated afterall... ;)

JJJ888
03-16-2009, 07:31 AM
With all those connections you should have made something useful of yourself and went to school there.

On another note your dreaming...you don't bring in a backup to develop when you have Kitna....I think "if"...and thats a big if...you role the dice on a guy who has the chance to gain a return in the next three years...maybe someone falls and we've addressed our needs...but adding a ivy league backup to play third string makes no sense...guy would be PS at best.

I'm really hyping him because I think he's a guy who no one has heard of...not because I think he'd be a great pick for us.

As far as going to an Ivy League school...I looked, and realized I would be happier here, both during my collegiate years and in the long run. Middlebury may not have the prestige of Harvard, Dartmouth or Yale, but employers know who we are.

thule
03-16-2009, 10:40 AM
D he is a nice safety prospect...but I'd rather go Pegues/Bruton personally.

D-Unit
03-16-2009, 01:36 PM
D he is a nice safety prospect...but I'd rather go Pegues/Bruton personally.
Yeah, I dunno about that... but... he's had absolutely no mention here and I thought I'd give him some love. I think he's better than most people think. Not saying he's the best of the best or anything. I'd be happy if we spend our 2nd and 3rd rounders on another position and then grabbed him in the 4th.

Round 4: WR Brandon Tate

Round 4: S Darcel McBath

:D Ye-yah!

thule
03-16-2009, 01:40 PM
Yeah, I dunno about that... but... he's had absolutely no mention here and I thought I'd give him some love. I think he's better than most people think. Not saying he's the best of the best or anything. I'd be happy if we spend our 2nd and 3rd rounders on another position and then grabbed him in the 4th.

Round 4: WR Brandon Tate

Round 4: S Darcel McBath

:D Ye-yah!

I read a scouts comment that said he was a 5th round prospect with a ability to go slightly earlier...so I think your about perfect on the position to land him...I just happen to like Pegeus and Bruton more...as the have more of a NFL body and could contribute better on coverage units.

PACKmanN
03-16-2009, 01:51 PM
Is there any interest from the Cowboys with Chris Baker?

thule
03-16-2009, 01:52 PM
Is there any interest from the Cowboys with Chris Baker?

None reported...but it would definitely make sense...and fans here have been talking about him. Brace seems like dallas's #1 priority in the draft tho.

M.O.T.H.
03-16-2009, 02:17 PM
Mayock has a hard on for Mcbath. I think he's still his 5th safety our something along those line.

Bengals78
03-16-2009, 02:55 PM
I am aboard the Brinkley hype. I have been hoping he ends up in Cincinnati for a long time. For Dallas, I really like Rashad Johnson. He is a leader which the defense really needs.

thule
03-16-2009, 03:18 PM
I am aboard the Brinkley hype. I have been hoping he ends up in Cincinnati for a long time. For Dallas, I really like Rashad Johnson. He is a leader which the defense really needs.

Between Hamlin/Ware/James/Newman this defense has enough leaders imo.

Johnson isn't going to be a leader of anything...and now that we brought in Gerald it just doesn't make a ton of sense to add a player like him unless you think he is the best value on the board and is going to be a good player.

M.O.T.H.
03-16-2009, 03:26 PM
It still makes a lot sense, actually. Sensabaugh has a troubled past, is only signed on for one year, and may be facing a suspension to start off the year. Safety isnt as glaring a need anymore but, it's still pretty big and could def. be targeted with that 2nd round pick, even if you think there may be better players on the board. There is no depth and there is no guarantee that Scandrick is actually moving to that "star" position. ILB, S, O-Line probably make the most sense now in the 2nd.

thule
03-16-2009, 03:34 PM
It still makes a lot sense, actually. Sensabaugh has a troubled past, is only signed on for one year, and may be facing a suspension to start off the year. Safety isnt as glaring a need anymore but, it's still pretty big and could def. be targeted with that 2nd round pick, even if you think there may be better players on the board. There is no depth and there is no guarantee that Scandrick is actually moving to that "star" position. ILB, S, O-Line probably make the most sense now in the 2nd.

I was just saying the leadership aspect wouldn't really play apart in dallas aside from getting him drafted.

I don't see him as someone who will unseat Sensabaugh....and if thats the case I don't wanna waste a 2nd on him...if Sensabaugh needs to be upgraded the 2010 draft class should be the best one in recent memory....I'd rather wait and play with what we have at safety. Use a 4th round pick on a special teams safety that you think has the potential to start and let them battle it out.

M.O.T.H.
03-16-2009, 03:45 PM
I was just saying the leadership aspect wouldn't really play apart in dallas aside from getting him drafted.

I don't see him as someone who will unseat Sensabaugh....and if thats the case I don't wanna waste a 2nd on him...if Sensabaugh needs to be upgraded the 2010 draft class should be the best one in recent memory....I'd rather wait and play with what we have at safety. Use a 4th round pick on a special teams safety that you think has the potential to start and let them battle it out.

I didnt say he would unseat Sensabaugh this year. But you could gradually ease him in there. Get the training wheels off and by year 2, he's ready to take over. Depth is a major issue too...you have a much better chance at hitting with a 2nd rounder than a 4th rounder. We could use quality safety depth, and a guy like Rashad would be great. He is one of those amazingly hard workers who has turned himself into a very good player...and there is a greal deal of potential there.

We all know we can go in a number of directions...just throwing it out there. Safety in round 2 is still a very good possibility.

D-Unit
03-16-2009, 04:02 PM
I agree with the possibility that S is still an option. Never know how the board is gonna shake out. Sensy definitely hasn't resolved any answers yet.

thule
03-16-2009, 04:05 PM
If I'm looking for someone to ease into the position Johnson isn't my guy. Untapped potential I don't see it...he is what he is imo. I'm sure he is a hard worker...but that only gets you so far in the NFL. I'd rather take someone with a bit more upside and that needs a little more tooling.

Thus I like to wait into the 4th and pick up a Bruton/Pegues/McBath...these guys all have more upside and could turn out to be better NFL players than Johnson.

FearTheSpur
03-16-2009, 10:07 PM
come on guys, hype some more players for me to get excited for draft day!

Burns336
03-22-2009, 04:05 PM
I was just saying the leadership aspect wouldn't really play apart in dallas aside from getting him drafted.

I don't see him as someone who will unseat Sensabaugh....and if thats the case I don't wanna waste a 2nd on him...if Sensabaugh needs to be upgraded the 2010 draft class should be the best one in recent memory....I'd rather wait and play with what we have at safety. Use a 4th round pick on a special teams safety that you think has the potential to start and let them battle it out.

DING, DING, DING!

I know I mentioned it a few times before, but I agree with Thule here. 2010 Safety class is going to have at least 3 first rounders.. This year might not have any.

We could grab a potential star in the 1st next year. At the very least, we can grab a guy in the 2nd next year who will probably have equal to, if not better value than this year's safeties.

Pick 51 is basically like getting a top 50 player, why waste that pick on so-so safeties that are all pretty similar, would only contribute on ST (Unless Sensabaugh fails miserably) and most likely isn't going to be a pro-bowl, playmaker.

Berry and Mays will probably be out of our range (I hope so, because I would kill myself if we had a top-10 pick next year) but we could still land a guy like Major Wright. He is the guy you are all going to have to listen to me hype up next year.

D-Unit
03-23-2009, 07:34 PM
DING, DING, DING!

I know I mentioned it a few times before, but I agree with Thule here. 2010 Safety class is going to have at least 3 first rounders.. This year might not have any.

We could grab a potential star in the 1st next year. At the very least, we can grab a guy in the 2nd next year who will probably have equal to, if not better value than this year's safeties.

Pick 51 is basically like getting a top 50 player, why waste that pick on so-so safeties that are all pretty similar, would only contribute on ST (Unless Sensabaugh fails miserably) and most likely isn't going to be a pro-bowl, playmaker.

Berry and Mays will probably be out of our range (I hope so, because I would kill myself if we had a top-10 pick next year) but we could still land a guy like Major Wright. He is the guy you are all going to have to listen to me hype up next year.
Sounds good. Next year is all Ndamukong Suh and Trent Williams for me. I know thule is gonna hype up his boy Brandon Spikes.

At safety, if those guys spoken of are gone... I'd be interested in Kam Chancellor.

LonghornsLegend
03-23-2009, 09:01 PM
We can't go safety in the 1st round next year unless we take a LT in the 2nd round this year and he shows he is ready to take over the job, otherwise future LT is head and shoulders above a safety for me.

Burns336
03-23-2009, 09:21 PM
We can't go safety in the 1st round next year unless we take a LT in the 2nd round this year and he shows he is ready to take over the job, otherwise future LT is head and shoulders above a safety for me.

Yeah.. I guess this is all just kinda dumb speculation on our parts because Jerry will do what it takes to address the major needs in FA if he can.

If we had a chance at say... Jason Peters? Because the Bills don't get a long term deal done with him, I could definitely see us looking at him. He'd fit our line.

thule
03-24-2009, 11:26 PM
Sounds good. Next year is all Ndamukong Suh and Trent Williams for me. I know thule is gonna hype up his boy Brandon Spikes.

At safety, if those guys spoken of are gone... I'd be interested in Kam Chancellor.

Be interesting to see what happens to Suh's stock this year. He had a huge end of the season....I could see him having a Moala type fall next year. Preseason top 10 down to a 2nd round player.

Cody is my top NT until proven otherwise.

I'm still really excited about kindle.
Oghobaase is going to be a stud coming out..depending on what happens to spears this year...he should be top 3-4 DE

PACKmanN
03-24-2009, 11:34 PM
I like Boo over Cody at NT in 3-4, btw, Kellen Heard ate Cody for breakfast

D-Unit
03-25-2009, 01:53 PM
Be interesting to see what happens to Suh's stock this year. He had a huge end of the season....I could see him having a Moala type fall next year. Preseason top 10 down to a 2nd round player.

Cody is my top NT until proven otherwise.

I'm still really excited about kindle.
Oghobaase is going to be a stud coming out..depending on what happens to spears this year...he should be top 3-4 DE
I'm going to predict the opposite. I can see Suh being the top DL in the class. Top 10 pick.

Cody is the one that will fall unless he can shed at least 30 more pounds and build real muscle mass. He's a fat slob. I really don't see much athleticism. He takes up space for sure, but I'm not sure if he wouldn't have a better career if he became a Sumo in Japan. Those guys are treated like real life Gods.

LonghornsLegend
03-25-2009, 02:16 PM
I would absolutely love Kindle opposite Ware next year, depending on what we do at LB and what Spencer does says alot...I think he's a great fit because of his versatility, he would be a monster but honestly Thule I'm pretty sure he'll be a 1st rounder...He was graded out as a 2nd rounder this year, and the added production he'll get from taking over Orakpo's role will only help his stock.


I think he may be out of our range, but Cody, boy I'd give up a 1st for him easily at this point.

D-Unit
03-25-2009, 08:38 PM
Kindle means Spencer failed.

Good talk, but let's get this thread back on track.

Any other players in this draft anyone wants to hype up? If you have a guy that you'll say later "so and so was my guy way back when"... then now is the time and this is the place.

HEISMANHERSCHEL
04-04-2009, 03:47 AM
Okay, I will post my favorite prospect (as far as Cowboys needs go.)

Patrick Chung-Safey-Oregon.

I love!!!!!!!!!! this guy.

I cant post any videos of this guy, cause I am an absolute idiot with computers. But he has range. He has ball skills. He can play the run and the pass. He is an absolute football player.

I have been right and wrong about many a draft prospect. There is no doubt about that. But before you choose a prospect you like, go to youtube and look at Chung's highlights. He can hit. And when he gets the ball in his hands he makes plays.

And he is no pre-maddona. Watch his blocking during the interception during the Michigan highlights. If you dont like what you see on that interception (when he didnt have the ball in his hands and was not expecting to make the highlight reel) then you can say he sucks. But dont pass judgement 'till you see him play.

If he gets drafted by a team not named "Cowboys," I will be sorry.

And one more thing for thet guys that only look at the triangle numbers-----dont let a 4.5 40yd dash fool you. 4.5 is plenty fast to play any position in the NFL if you know what you are doing. This guy can play football, and that is what is important. He has the physicals to play, but also know HOW to play...

And for the record, I am NOT a Oregon fan....

thule
04-04-2009, 12:41 PM
posting youtube videos are easy.

Just add [.youtube]url[/youtube]

^^without the period infront of .youtube

the url = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahEbxsCbp-k

Just put the end after the = sign inbetween the youtube tags and the video will show.

woodnick
04-04-2009, 01:13 PM
ERIC WOOD C/G Louisville
Height: 6307 Weight: 310 lbs.

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/53/536701.jpg

Even though his combine numbers looked good:

225: 30 Reps
10 yd: 1.68
Vertical: 30.5


I was just wondering if anybody had a link to a site that lists all combine results of the 40 yard dash, but it must include 10 yard split times?

I'm a big fan of the 10 yrd splits, but I haven't been able to find a site that provides them, so any help would be mush appreciated, thanks!

D-Unit
04-04-2009, 01:35 PM
NT/DE Dorrell Scott, Clemson

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NFL COMBINE NOTES:
http://rubtherock.blogspot.com/

he NFL combine featured Clemson Tigers football DT Dorell Scott participating in drills on Monday. Scott measured at 6'3 1/4 and weighed in at 312 lbs. He was listed on the CU roster and the last regular season game depth chart at 6'3, 310. While neither of Dorell's two 40 yard dash drills were televised, he ran a blazing (for a DT) 4.95. This was the 3rd quickest time out of all 24 participating DT's, with two players ahead of him tying at 4.89. Scott's time was one of only 4 in the entire group that was under 5 seconds.

Dorell was not listed in the NFL.com's top performers in the drill because DT's are lumped in with DE's, who are typically faster, under the broader DL category. Just a side note here: The reason that Scott's dashes were not part of the NFL Network's featured coverage was because he was player #45 and BC's B.J. Raji was player #43. Raji is one of the more acclaimed DT's at the combine and both times after his dashes, the network went to commercial. So, it was just an unfortunate luck of the draw with respect to Scott's player number being right behind him.

In the bench press drill, Scott completed 29 reps with 225 lbs. The average of the 19 participating DT's was 28.4, which put him right in the middle of the group. Ga. Tech's Darryl Richards only completed 17 reps and finished at the bottom, while Michigan's Terrance Taylor completed the most with 37. Scott obviously didn't hurt his "stock" with this performance and combined with his speed in the 40 yd. dash, probably impressed the scouts and NFL personnel in attendance.

Dorell did get some "face time" on tv in three other drills. The first was an agility drill that required a lateral shuffle over a set of bags and then running forward and back through the lanes in the bags before finishing with a short sprint. I thought Scott looked good in this one. Next was a pass-rushing drill that featured two "dummy" bags that the players used a rip or swim technique on while trying maintain a tight arc around the second bag. Again, I thought Dorell performed well.

In the next drill, I thought Scott did fantastic. This drill required the players to stay low and keep good form while delivering a blow to three standing dummy bags and then tapping another bag on the turf that was in betweent those. It sounds odd and it looked odd but nevertheless, Dorell performed as well as anyone in the drill and again I think again could have only helped his stock rise. There were many players bobbing up and down who were using poor technique and body mechanics.

The final drill was another one emphasizing agility and footwork. The player lines up in a 3 point stance and has a coach five yards in front of him. The player fires off the line and has to make a hard cut either left or right but doesn't know which way until the coach points in that direction. The player then makes another hard cut between a set of cones and then finishes with a 20 yard dash. I sound like a broken record but in my opinion, I thought Scott did great in this drill as well.

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/46/464121.jpg

It's known that Clemson offers some of the very best DL coaching in the nation. Scott is the latest DL prospect to come out of a school that has churned out many NFL Defensive Linemen.

I think Dorrell can be molded into a better 3-4 NT or 3-4 DE depending on how the staff wants to use him. His frame is moldable. He's got the capacity to add more if he needs to or drop some if he needs to. He's got enough speed to make it work at end, and he has the experience at NT. His technique is sound and there are several reasons why I think he's flying under the radar right now.

1. Clemson had a down season.

2. He suffered through a knee sprain in his senior year.

3. After averaging 50 tackles and 4 sacks in his Sophomore and Junior year, his stats took a hit in his Senior year when he only totaled, 39 tackles and 1 sack. He did increase his TFL though.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/dt/Dorell-Scott.php

IMO, Scott has him ranked way too low. He'll be drafted ahead of many players on his DT rankings.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/rankings/dt.php

Just a short Hype Post but I wanted to give notice to someone who I think is flying under the radar. I'd love to have him over Ron Brace. I'll probably do a few more of these shorter ones.

romo4prez415
04-04-2009, 03:42 PM
I'm looking forward to the Jairus Byrd hype. I think he's an absolute stud and has the makings of ball hawking safety.

D-Unit
04-04-2009, 04:09 PM
A Jamon Meredith Hype Post...

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YA RLY Moth. haha. OK... finally got down to figuring out my opinion on this guy based off my own thoughts and not just going by what Moth has been preaching.

Lately our OL depth has been a topic of discussion. So it lead me to search out prospects who had versatility. That's when I re-stumbled across Meredith as a prospect. I never knew before that he had played anything other than LT. Come to find out, last year was his first year playing the position. Prior to that he had been playing Guard and Right Tackle.

Now as a LT prospect, I can understand how MOTH came to believe he isn't quite hacked up for it. I came across an interview and here are his thoughts on it.

On playing LT...

"The first couple games were a little shaky,” Meredith said. “I wasn't quite sure what I was doing. It's a lot different as far as techniques and responsibilities. The more I got used to it, the more I got better and the more I felt comfortable."

On moving to LT...

"Yeah I really think it was a blessing,” Meredith said. “At first I thought it was a demotion. But then my coach explained that it wasn't a demotion. He needed me inside, and I wanted to do what's best for the team. I'm not a selfish guy, so I wanted to do what's best for the team. And come to find out, a lot of NFL teams like when you play more than one position. In the NFL you only have seven-eight guys traveling, so a lot of them double-train. So I guess it was a blessing."

"At tackle you've got to show a lot more athleticism,” Meredith said. “In the middle you've got help from both sides so you've just to be stout and stay in there and hold your ground. On the outside, you're in a lot of space. Make the wrong move and the quarterback is impaired."

On versatility playing the Left or Right side...

"Either one. It really doesn't matter. I can play either. I can switch in the middle of the game if I need to. It's a little bit easier to run block from right tackle, and it's a little easier to pass block from left tackle."


But here's the real key for me. His versatility.

Quote from USA Today:

"Meredith has the natural strength and athletic ability to play guard or tackle. He is a quiet, thoughtful person who might be more effective if he played with more aggression. He was impressive during East-West Shrine practices, where he showed strong initial punch and excellent footwork. Meredith started 38 games, including 8 at right guard, 11 at right tackle and 19 at left tackle. In the past two seasons, coaches' stats credit him with 17 blocks that resulted in touchdowns while allowing seven sacks on 753 pass plays. Meredith graduated in May 2008 with a 3.7 grade-point average."

Excerpt from Scout.com's Browns site:

"Keep an eye on South Carolina offensive lineman Jamon Meredith. Inside the halls of the Cleveland Brows’ facilities, the team is very high on this prospect as evidenced by a private workout last week at the team complex. He presents the type of versatility the new staff seems to favor, being able to start at four of the five offensive line positions. It is safe to say Meredith is likely rated higher on their board than some of the more recognizable interior blocking talent."

A light came on in my head and I thought... Meredith actually would project as a pretty nice Guard prospect.

Then I came across Mel Kiper's rankings... and BOOM!

"Offensive guards
1. Jamon Meredith, South Carolina
2. Duke Robinson, Oklahoma
3. Andy Levitre, Oregon State
4. Herman Johnson, LSU
5. Kraig Urbik, Wisconsin

At guard, Meredith is the top guy if you project him to that spot. Robinson has slipped some since his struggles in the national championship game against Florida. Johnson has awesome physical skills but doesn't always manhandle the opposition as expected. Levitre is a versatile veteran who should have a solid pro career, and the same is true of Urbik and Auburn's Tyronne Green. "

So from then on, I was sold as Meredith as a guy who could play 4 positions for us along the line and give us excellent depth. That's at the very least. For all I know, he could be a better player for us than we know now and could start at any 1 of the 4 positions.

There are a few things that I look for in an OL and "Smarts" is definitely one of them.

Recipient of the Harold White Grade Point Average Award (3.7 GPA)...

ESPN Academic All-District selection...

Presented the Andrew Sorensen Scholar-Athlete Award for Football...

Graduated in May, 2008, with a degree in Sport and Entertainment Management, as he earned several academic honors by accumulating a 3.7 grade point average...

From the same Scout.com inteview...

On if his smarts help him with teams:

"I guess I just pick up the plays a lot better than some other guys. I can get a playbook a week early and pretty much know the whole thing a week early so I don't have to learn too much on the run."

THAT's the kind of guy I like.

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From *************.com... I think I can post this because I'm not making money off of it....

"One of the smartest offensive linemen in the Southeastern Conference, the fifth-year senior boasted a 3.74 grade-point average, receiving the school's Harold White Award for his academic excellence in 2008. As a sophomore, he was named the university's recipient of the Andrew Sorensen Scholar-Athlete Award for Football.

Meredith started 38 games during his career at South Carolina and had a string of 28 consecutive starts snapped heading into the 2008 campaign. He lined up at both tackle positions prior to shifting to left guard as a senior. That move was brought about so that he could mentor Georgia Military Institute transfer, Jarriel King, at Meredith's familiar left tackle slot.

Meredith was a standout strong-side defensive end at Hillcrest High School, where he lettered three times under the guidance of head coach Wayne Garrick. He earned All-League honors as a senior and received a two-star prospect rating from Rivals.com.

Despite a banner senior prep season, Meredith was lightly recruited by the colleges. Former South Carolina offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo saw that Meredith had great athleticism when he recruited him at Hillcrest, the high school that produced former USC and current Carolina Panthers offensive lineman Travelle Wharton.

"He had that athletic ability like Wharton. He was long, he was lean and he was athletic," said DeGuglielmo, who is a coach with the Miami Dolphins. "He was low-key and had an even temperament -- and I liked that about him. I didn't want someone who was too excitable."

Meredith enrolled at South Carolina in 2004, spending most of the season acclimating to the right offensive tackle position on the scout team. He received his first collegiate game action in the seventh contest vs. Vanderbilt, but did not play the rest of the year.

In 2005, Meredith spent the first part of the season as a key reserve at both right and left tackle. He took over right tackle duties midway through the Arkansas clash, going on to start four games, including the Independence Bowl vs. Missouri. He finished the year with 34 knockdowns and six touchdown-resulting blocks, as the offense averaged 315.92 yards per game.

The following season, the Andrew Sorenson Scholar-Athlete Award winner started all 13 games. He started the first seven contests at right tackle and the final six on the left side, delivering 62 knockdowns for the campaign. He was named Southeastern Conference Offensive Lineman of the Week vs. Clemson, helping the Gamecocks improve their offense from a 100th-place ranking in 2005 to 20th in 2006 (395.0 yards per game).

As a junior, Meredith earned ESPN Academic All-District honors and was named his team's Outstanding Offensive Lineman. Starting all 12 games at left tackle, he made 75 knockdowns and twelve touchdown-resulting blocks. He allowed just three quarterback sacks on 443 pass plays and also recorded three solo tackles, along with recovering a fumble.

After sitting out the first two games of 2008, based on his agreement with the NCAA, Meredith returned to the lineup at left tackle vs. Georgia, but then spent the rest of the year at left guard. A right ankle sprain in fall camp affected his foot speed and balance, and was further compounded when he again injured it early in the Louisiana State game. He saw limited action the next two games, finishing with nine starts. He posted 48 knockdowns and five touchdown-resulting blocks, as both Meredith and USC struggled, with the offense ranking 97th nationally with an average of 316.54 yards per game.

Positives: Good height with long arms and an athletic build, typical of top-tier left tackles. Adequate punch, and will extend his arms and get his hands on the numbers to keep defenders at bay. Gets to linebackers at the second level very well and hits the moving target. Able to adjust to oncoming defenders in space. Positions himself to seal the edge using quick feet and good hand placement. Can cut-block ends on his side to give the quarterback a lane on quick throws.

Negatives: A bit slow to move his feet at times, relying on his length too much. Other times he drops back too far, allowing the end to twist inside untouched. Plays a bit tall in pass protection. Struggles to reach down to block to the guard when he doesn't explode from his stance. Could sustain blocks better in space.

Body Structure: Has a well-proportioned frame, but desperately needs to add more bulk and lower-body muscle definition and power. He is a big-boned player with good thickness in his chest and shoulders. He has long arms, good timed speed and adequate quickness and large hands to grab and separate.

Athletic Ability: Meredith has very good knee bend and loose hips, but does not always use them to his advantage due to issues with strength in his lower body. Isn't a good leverage player, but has the functional quickness in his kick-slide and flexibility to mirror (will get in trouble when he drops back too far, though). He has good change-of-direction agility, but only when he plays with a wide base (gets too narrow in his base when on the move), but even with his redirection skills, he is sometimes too slow to recover and will get beaten when he "short arms" and lets the defender take a side to escape (needs to face up to his opponent with better aggression). GRADE: 6.6

Football Sense: Meredith is the smartest player on the team and plays with good awareness, but is inconsistent when needed to react with urgency. He has a keen understanding for the game, which is the reason he has played every position on the front wall except for center. He is an outstanding student with a 3.7 GPA. He picks things up quickly and has no problem taking plays from the chalkboard to the playing field, but needs to play with better aggressiveness and emotion. GRADE: 7.8

Character: Very quiet sort with no off-field issues. He gets along well with teammates and staff, but is not considered a leader. He shies away from the spotlight, and would not communicate with the media as a senior. He is mature and his academic success shows he has good maturity. GRADE: 7.0

Competitiveness: Meredith is a quiet sort, making it hard to gauge his aggressiveness, as he doesn't show great urgency in his play. Doesn't always work to finish and must play with more emotion and develop nastiness to play at the next level. He does show good effort, but you would just want a player with his athletic ability to show more emotion. GRADE: 5.6

Work Habits: Meredith is a self-starter who does not need to be monitored, but he needs to dedicate more hours to the training room. He lacks great strength and also needs to add bulk. His frame looks more like a power forward for the basketball team than that of a football down lineman. GRADE: 6.0


ATHLETIC REPORT

Initial Quickness: Meredith has a very quick initial step and loose hips. He shows suddenness to gain an advantage and is a good knee-bender, but does not always use his burst (bit lethargic late in the game). Working in space, there are times he takes false steps or makes insufficient moves (sometimes retreats so far back in pass protection, an edge rusher just needs to delay his burst and then slip underneath). When he keeps his pads level, he can reach and scoop to seal shaded defenders. Best asset is his ability to use his light and quick feet to reach an opponent, but as a senior, he struggled often to gain movement off the snap working at guard and needs to improve his lower body strength.
GRADE: 6.9

Lateral Movement: Shows the loose hips to work down the line, but has a poor concept for angling in the second level (just six downfield blocks on 1,372 plays the last two years). You can see that he is fluid and can slide naturally, but just needs to play with better control. GRADE: 6.5

Balance/Stays On Feet: Can be slow with his kick slide but he seems to rush his retreat. When he does, edge rushers loop around him to pressure the pocket. With his athletic ability, the hope is that he would stay with his blocks longer. He will finish once engaged, but he does not play with great strength or leverage. He can move his feet and swing his hips to position and wall off. His problems occur because he has a tendency to play high in his stance, as this affects his equilibrium as the game progresses. GRADE: 5.7

Explosion/Pop: Despite good timed speed, Meredith appears a bit lethargic coming off the snap. He does not show the suddenness moving in space and would much rather use his reach to keep defenders at bay rather than fire off the snap and attack with aggression. He has quick hands, but lacks much impact with his punch. With his athletic frame and long arms, you would expect him to be quicker getting into position and stay on his blocks longer (more of a one-punch type). He is not the type that will stalk into the second level, or come off the snap with true aggression (seems to go through the motions). He has good lower-body thickness, but does not display the strong anchor to handle bull rushers. He is too inconsistent trying to finish, and can't generate the power needed to sustain. With his hip snap, he should be jolting defenders to get movement, but he loses quite a bit of his effectiveness by playing high in his stance. GRADE: 5.2

Run Blocking: Adequate drive blocker, but proved while playing guard that he does not have the sustained power to widen and maintain rush lanes. He is better in pass protection, preferring to park himself at the line of scrimmage and let the action come to him rather than explode off the snap to gain movement. He has the quick first step to get in position, but has to improve his lower-body power and maintain a better pad level. When he stays low in his pads, he flashes decent ability to wash defensive linemen on down blocks and widen the hole, but he is just marginal as a cut blocker. GRADE: 5.7

Pass Blocking: Has natural knee bend, large hands and long arms to keep defenders at bay. He is good to mirror when he faces up to the edge rusher, but he sometimes retreats so far back, speedy edge rushers are quick to slip underneath. He has good slide agility, but needs to be more active with his hands when trying to finish. He is not going to shock anyone with his marginal hand punch and until he improves his lower-body strength, he would be a liability with his anchor working in-line as a guard, as he showed in 2008 that he simply can't handle the powerful bull rushers. Has the ability to sink his hips, but that inconsistent hand punch and lock-out ability, along with his late recovery when retreating, get him caught out of position. If he can improve his leg strength to sit down and anchor, he would be able to handle left tackle duties, despite his light frame. Right now, he projects to right tackle. GRADE: 6.2

Pulling/Trapping: Meredith is a marginal blocker on long pulls. On short traps, he lacks quick-twitch moves and great foot balance. He is better served on inside plays, as he does not stay low in his pads or take proper angles to cut down defenders on outside screens. He has loose hips, yet struggles to change direction when he overruns a play and because he plays so tall, he lacks the ability to sink his pads and cut block. On straight-line charges off the snap, he can lead block, but if a strong defender gets in his way, the rush lane will soon get clogged. When he hits the defender high, he lands with little pop on contact. GRADE: 5.3

Adjust on Linebacker Downfield: Meredith is more comfortable blocking at the line than getting into the second level to stalk, despite good timed foot speed. His feet tend to die under him moving in space and his base gets so narrow on the move, he spends a lot of time on the ground by tripping over his own feet. Has change-of-direction agility and could improve quickly in this area. GRADE: 5.5

Use of Hands/Punch: Meredith's biggest problem vs. physical defenders is that he lacks the hand punch to shock and jolt. He is more of a reach blocker with decent hand placement, but has to put more force behind hits. He likes to grab and lean into his opponent too often and because he gets reckless with his hands outside his frame, a strong surge by a defender will see him rocked back on his heels or have his opponent get a good piece of his jersey to jerk and control him. He doesn't have the raw power to flash enough punch and lock out ability to shock and jolt, but he does show good hand quickness to recoil (still gets too wide with his hands and this lets defenders into his chest too often, though). GRADE: 5.3

Reactions/Awareness: Very smart picking up games and twists up front. He mirrors his opponent when he does not retreat too far in his slide and when he keeps his feet shuffling. Is better reacting and adjusting to the defender's second move when he keeps his feet active. Has the vision and lateral quickness to pick up stunts and is not the type that will get fooled by the defender's multiple moves. GRADE: 7.1

Compares To: JORDAN BLACK, Jacksonville -- Meredith can match up to Black in terms of athleticism, but lacks the "sand in his pants" to anchor vs. the bull rush and showed in 2008 that he is not a pro guard prospect. He needs to improve his overall strength, add bulk and play with more aggression. Look for this player to be drafted much earlier based on his athletic skills than his production would indicate, but the "boom or bust" label applies.
OVERALL GRADE: 6.1

Meredith started 38 games at South Carolina, including eight at right guard, 11 at right tackle and 19 at left tackle...In his final two seasons, the lineman delivered 123 knockdowns, 17 touchdown-resulting blocks and six downfield blocks...During that span, he was penalized nine times (seven false starts, two holding calls)...Allowed seven quarterback pressures and seven sacks on 753 pass plays...Also recorded four solo tackles and recovered one fumble.

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I'd also have to be lying if Mike Shanahan wasn't on the back of my mind here. How so? I still firmly believe Shanny is our next coach. In his OL system he requires athletic OL. A totally different kind of lineman that Houck employs. Meredith is one of the few OL in this draft that fits either system. That is a big plus for me.

Here it says NE Offensive Line coach worked out Meredith personally.
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/03/29/ot-meredith-draws-interest-from-pats-at-south-carolina-pro-day/

http://nfldotcom.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/j_meredith_blog1.jpg?w=300&h=184

"New England Patriots offensive line coach Dante Scarnecchia was on hand at South Carolina’s March 25 pro day to personally work out tackle Jamon Meredith."

Combine Video: http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f2f75d

DraftGuys Video: xb5NWAX-f1s

Reasons I like Meredith:

1. Projection to Guard.
2. Smarts
3. Versatility
4. Athletic lineman who could excel in Houck or Shanny's system.
5. Played against the best competition in college.


And just for reading... here you go.. Pics of Urban Meyer's daughter. :eek:

Pics I stumbled across when searching for images of Jamon.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XcBPo8U0GEk/Rp6HuIYKOeI/AAAAAAAAA88/0_-ydfVwoKw/s400/nikki4.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XcBPo8U0GEk/Rp6Hp4YKOdI/AAAAAAAAA80/NcbWtT60vp4/s400/nikki3.jpg

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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XcBPo8U0GEk/Rp6HfYYKObI/AAAAAAAAA8k/ANmzt2K4jIQ/s400/nikki2.jpg

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E-Man
04-04-2009, 05:04 PM
Wow good look out on Dorrell Scott. He has the tools to be a find. I saw him play a little bit last year, and wouldn't mind taking him. I would love it if he ended up like Ratliff.

M.O.T.H.
04-04-2009, 06:54 PM
Meredith may be versatile but, I've seen him turned around, knocked on his butt, or just beaten like a dead horse far too often, to like him as a prospect. He wasnt anything special in a gamecocks uniform. You'd be hardpressed to find many Gamecock fans that would give him a glowing endorsement. I'd agree he is athletically gifted but, he hasnt been much of a football player to this point.

and if we're talking guard...He'd be very, very undersized for a Houck guard and his questionable strength may be burdensome at guard as well.

Anyway, he was bound to impress in workouts but, he is certainly a boom or bust guy and after seeing him start nearly 40 games here, I'd lean toward the latter.

D-Unit
04-04-2009, 09:47 PM
Meredith may be versatile but, I've seen him turned around, knocked on his butt, or just beaten like a dead horse far too often, to like him as a prospect. He wasnt anything special in a gamecocks uniform. You'd be hardpressed to find many Gamecock fans that would give him a glowing endorsement. I'd agree he is athletically gifted but, he hasnt been much of a football player to this point.

and if we're talking guard...He'd be very, very undersized for a Houck guard and his questionable strength may be burdensome at guard as well.

Anyway, he was bound to impress in workouts but, he is certainly a boom or bust guy and after seeing him start nearly 40 games here, I'd lean toward the latter.
How was his play as a Guard?

LonghornsLegend
04-04-2009, 10:00 PM
Damn Urban Meyer's daughter is bad as ****, I wonder if anyone on UF hit it :D


I didn't go through the whole post yet, but I think it's a good choice...I really like Meredith, he has some tools you can coach, and I think he's a good prospect, but I like the choice because I am interested in reading more about him.

M.O.T.H.
04-04-2009, 10:11 PM
How was his play as a Guard?

Decent enough, even good at times but, our running game still never materialized and we always ranked at the bottom of the SEC in sacks against. It's funny, they talk about Meredith being the smartest on the line or anchoring our line. That's really not saying much considering we've probably had the worst O-Line in the SEC while he's played with us. He's a toolsy athletic guy who's college production was minimal. Scouts love him because of the athletic ability and versatility he brings, but again the production was not there. In the right scheme, maybe he becomes something real nice but, I wouldnt want him in Dallas. He's undersized inside and he tends to be more of a finesse tackle, tipping the scales at just over 300 lbs. Undersized and finesse, not the things Houck likes in his O-Lineman.

I dont want to be too hard on the guy because, I really do like him as a person. They're right when they say he is quiet...he is. He's a quiet humble guy who was loved by his teammates, I really do wish for him the best, he is an SC alum after all but, I'm certainly wary. I'll agree with what everyone has to say, the tools seem to be there but, there is no guarantee that he will ever truly get it and let those abilities carry over to real games. A Boom or Bust guy. I honestly wouldnt touch him...not early at least and not for us at all.

Burns336
04-05-2009, 08:30 AM
Kindle means Spencer failed.

Good talk, but let's get this thread back on track.

Any other players in this draft anyone wants to hype up? If you have a guy that you'll say later "so and so was my guy way back when"... then now is the time and this is the place.

I want credit for Clay Matthews hype!! Haha

LizardState
04-07-2009, 07:38 PM
That's a nice writeup. You've got me sold. Anyone wanna give the opposite side of the story?

Well, about Derek Pegues, PFW has him as the 23rd-ranked CB, probably for some real good reasons. They also say he has the "continually run afoul of the law ... suspect character." I googled him up awhile ago & he had several incidents since 2006, including hitting a cop last season, how dumb is that?

http://life.atlantafalcons.com/index.php?showtopic=3834231

He is far & away the biggest character risk in this draft. He is also considered too short to be an NFL DB, if he plays in the league at all I think he will have to make it as a KR exclusively. After the Adam "Don't Call Me Pacman Anymore" Jones disaster, do the Cowboys need another DB who could become a locker room cancer?

HEISMANHERSCHEL
04-08-2009, 04:29 AM
Okay, following Thule's guidance, here it goes...


Patrick Chung Safety Oregon


5' 11 212 lbs. 4.54



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This guy gets all over the field. His speed is fine. He hits like a truck. And when he has the ball in his hands, he can make things happen.

He seems to me to be like a poor man's Ed Reed.

To quote Scott Wright-The player every team needs.

HEISMANHERSCHEL
04-08-2009, 04:38 AM
Okay, I suck. I cant get the youtube link to post.

But that doesnt mean Pat Chung sucks. Just check him out. He would start year one...

Burns336
04-08-2009, 11:58 AM
Chung just isn't that great in coverage. He has problems matching up with TE's and shouldn't even be asked to try and cover a WR. He's limited to press coverage (like so many guys in college are) and he's more of an in-the-box type of guy.

Beyond that, he is supposedly an idiot. No off the field problems that I'm aware of, but I've heard teams are skeptical that he can be the leader of a secondary. He needs others to tell him where to go and what to do. He's not a cerebral player.

So lets think about this -- a Safety who can't cover, can't lead the secondary, and needs to be told where to go and what to do in order to be successful. His strengths are in the box, which he displayed while playing the Rover position at Oregon.

Sounds like Roy Williams.

I'm just not a Chung fan. I would like to be, but there are too many things about him that I don't like.

LizardState
04-08-2009, 01:00 PM
Chung just isn't that great in coverage. He has problems matching up with TE's and shouldn't even be asked to try and cover a WR. He's limited to press coverage (like so many guys in college are) and he's more of an in-the-box type of guy.

Beyond that, he is supposedly an idiot. No off the field problems that I'm aware of, but I've heard teams are skeptical that he can be the leader of a secondary. He needs others to tell him where to go and what to do. He's not a cerebral player.

So lets think about this -- a Safety who can't cover, can't lead the secondary, and needs to be told where to go and what to do in order to be successful. His strengths are in the box, which he displayed while playing the Rover position at Oregon.

Sounds like Roy Williams.

I'm just not a Chung fan. I would like to be, but there are too many things about him that I don't like.

Agreed, they need a safety who isn't a coverage liability & can still intimidate receivers with his hard-hitting & control the middle of the field. No more Roy Williams clones, he singlehandedly cost them games last yr. when opponent OCs exposed him in coverage.

Being a hardcore Alabama fan I've followed Rashad Johnson closely & he fits the bill. He hits from the SS spot like Rodney Harrison & Steve Atwater used to & is the best the Crimson Tide has had there since Roman Harper, he can cover too, has great ball skills & is a leader, 2-time Tide defensive captain. He's done a number on Massaquoi other WRs in the SEC with 11 INTs the last 2 seasons. As such he's the 2nd-ranked (per PFW) SS climbing up draft boards like gangbusters, with no 1st rd. pick Dallas may have to work a deal to move up & get him, no way he'll be there at #52 overall. I think he's look great with a blue star on his hat.

thule
04-08-2009, 01:17 PM
Agreed, they need a safety who isn't a coverage liability & can still intimidate receivers with his hard-hitting & control the middle of the field. No more Roy Williams clones, he singlehandedly cost them games last yr. when opponent OCs exposed him in coverage.

Being a hardcore Alabama fan I've followed Rashad Johnson closely & he fits the bill. He hits from the SS spot like Rodney Harrison & Steve Atwater used to & is the best the Crimson Tide has had there since Roman Harper, he can cover too, has great ball skills & is a leader, 2-time Tide defensive captain. He's done a number on Massaquoi other WRs in the SEC with 11 INTs the last 2 seasons. As such he's the 2nd-ranked (per PFW) SS climbing up draft boards like gangbusters, with no 1st rd. pick Dallas may have to work a deal to move up & get him, no way he'll be there at #52 overall. I think he's look great with a blue star on his hat.

I wouldn't say "no way"....he definately could be available at 52. Delmas could even fall to us at 52 and I don't think it's really a question he'll be the first Safety off the board. Teams aren't sold on Johnson from what i've heard...he could be a classic case of a guy who doesn't have the elite measureables...but is just a football player...those guys always slip a bit on draft day.

Macarthur
04-08-2009, 01:53 PM
I like Johnson, too.

As far as I'm concerned, any guy that can be that good and that productive in the SEC is a player.

Burns336
04-08-2009, 05:15 PM
I just can't be talked into spending our first pick in the draft on a safety, especially when all of them, including Delmas, have question marks.

Delmas might not have the frame that will hold up at the NFL level and he's an ankle tackler, Chung and Moore are in-the-box, Johnson is just an average prospect. None of these guys (aside from Delmas) have been able to separate themselves from the others.

If these guys were carried over to next years draft, most would be late 2nd-mid 3rd grades at best.

I guess my feeling is that none of these guys scream game changer to me. If safety is so important to this team, then why spend a pick this year on a guy who might need to be replaced 2 years from now?

I'd say all of the safeties are pretty much 50-50 in terms of even qualifying as starters. It's just not a risk I would take personally.

thule
04-08-2009, 08:29 PM
I like Johnson, too.

As far as I'm concerned, any guy that can be that good and that productive in the SEC is a player.

/insert marcus spears comment here....and any other sec player that never amounted to anything....the only sure thing coming out of college football the last 10 years...was that span of Hurricanes....that came in at a high level.

D-Unit
04-09-2009, 06:05 PM
I just can't be talked into spending our first pick in the draft on a safety, especially when all of them, including Delmas, have question marks.

Delmas might not have the frame that will hold up at the NFL level and he's an ankle tackler, Chung and Moore are in-the-box, Johnson is just an average prospect. None of these guys (aside from Delmas) have been able to separate themselves from the others.

If these guys were carried over to next years draft, most would be late 2nd-mid 3rd grades at best.

I guess my feeling is that none of these guys scream game changer to me. If safety is so important to this team, then why spend a pick this year on a guy who might need to be replaced 2 years from now?

I'd say all of the safeties are pretty much 50-50 in terms of even qualifying as starters. It's just not a risk I would take personally.
I'm ok with going with a safety in Round 2 as long as we're not looking at it as if we're forcing ourselves to take one. I want BPA that fits a need. Sean Smith would make me happy.

But my boy Darcel McBath can be had in the 3rd and I would prefer that. McBath is the MAN! Help spread the hype!!!

HEISMANHERSCHEL
04-10-2009, 06:49 AM
/insert marcus spears comment here....and any other sec player that never amounted to anything....the only sure thing coming out of college football the last 10 years...was that span of Hurricanes....that came in at a high level.

How bout my man Skyler Green? He was so dominate in the nfl...

Burns336
04-10-2009, 02:21 PM
I'm ok with going with a safety in Round 2 as long as we're not looking at it as if we're forcing ourselves to take one. I want BPA that fits a need. Sean Smith would make me happy.

But my boy Darcel McBath can be had in the 3rd and I would prefer that. McBath is the MAN! Help spread the hype!!!

Sean Smith is the only guy I would be ok with, but I'm sure he'll be gone.

The sad part is -- He's a developmental guy and I would prefer him over all of the true safety prospects.

The thing that depresses me about this year is that I look to next year and I see so many guys that would be chosen ahead of this years safety crop.

Eric Berry
Taylor Mays
Major Wright
Morgan Burnett
Reshad Jones
Devonte Shannon
Darell Stuckey

I'd MAYBE put Delmas on par with the last 3 if they don't improve a whole lot this year, but all the other safeties in this class fall below all of these guys that will be available in 2010.

I just think it would be beneficial for us long term to build the front 7 now and wait for safety next year when we have a 1st rounder.

I mean we signed Sensabaugh to be a stop-gap or resign him if we choose to do so. What is the logic behind spending our first pick in this draft on a safety? I don't get it or want it.

D-Unit
04-11-2009, 03:01 AM
NT/DE Dorrell Scott, Clemson

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NFL COMBINE NOTES:
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he NFL combine featured Clemson Tigers football DT Dorell Scott participating in drills on Monday. Scott measured at 6'3 1/4 and weighed in at 312 lbs. He was listed on the CU roster and the last regular season game depth chart at 6'3, 310. While neither of Dorell's two 40 yard dash drills were televised, he ran a blazing (for a DT) 4.95. This was the 3rd quickest time out of all 24 participating DT's, with two players ahead of him tying at 4.89. Scott's time was one of only 4 in the entire group that was under 5 seconds.

Dorell was not listed in the NFL.com's top performers in the drill because DT's are lumped in with DE's, who are typically faster, under the broader DL category. Just a side note here: The reason that Scott's dashes were not part of the NFL Network's featured coverage was because he was player #45 and BC's B.J. Raji was player #43. Raji is one of the more acclaimed DT's at the combine and both times after his dashes, the network went to commercial. So, it was just an unfortunate luck of the draw with respect to Scott's player number being right behind him.

In the bench press drill, Scott completed 29 reps with 225 lbs. The average of the 19 participating DT's was 28.4, which put him right in the middle of the group. Ga. Tech's Darryl Richards only completed 17 reps and finished at the bottom, while Michigan's Terrance Taylor completed the most with 37. Scott obviously didn't hurt his "stock" with this performance and combined with his speed in the 40 yd. dash, probably impressed the scouts and NFL personnel in attendance.

Dorell did get some "face time" on tv in three other drills. The first was an agility drill that required a lateral shuffle over a set of bags and then running forward and back through the lanes in the bags before finishing with a short sprint. I thought Scott looked good in this one. Next was a pass-rushing drill that featured two "dummy" bags that the players used a rip or swim technique on while trying maintain a tight arc around the second bag. Again, I thought Dorell performed well.

In the next drill, I thought Scott did fantastic. This drill required the players to stay low and keep good form while delivering a blow to three standing dummy bags and then tapping another bag on the turf that was in betweent those. It sounds odd and it looked odd but nevertheless, Dorell performed as well as anyone in the drill and again I think again could have only helped his stock rise. There were many players bobbing up and down who were using poor technique and body mechanics.

The final drill was another one emphasizing agility and footwork. The player lines up in a 3 point stance and has a coach five yards in front of him. The player fires off the line and has to make a hard cut either left or right but doesn't know which way until the coach points in that direction. The player then makes another hard cut between a set of cones and then finishes with a 20 yard dash. I sound like a broken record but in my opinion, I thought Scott did great in this drill as well.

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It's known that Clemson offers some of the very best DL coaching in the nation. Scott is the latest DL prospect to come out of a school that has churned out many NFL Defensive Linemen.

I think Dorrell can be molded into a better 3-4 NT or 3-4 DE depending on how the staff wants to use him. His frame is moldable. He's got the capacity to add more if he needs to or drop some if he needs to. He's got enough speed to make it work at end, and he has the experience at NT. His technique is sound and there are several reasons why I think he's flying under the radar right now.

1. Clemson had a down season.

2. He suffered through a knee sprain in his senior year.

3. After averaging 50 tackles and 4 sacks in his Sophomore and Junior year, his stats took a hit in his Senior year when he only totaled, 39 tackles and 1 sack. He did increase his TFL though.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/dt/Dorell-Scott.php

IMO, Scott has him ranked way too low. He'll be drafted ahead of many players on his DT rankings.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/rankings/dt.php

Just a short Hype Post but I wanted to give notice to someone who I think is flying under the radar. I'd love to have him over Ron Brace. I'll probably do a few more of these shorter ones.
Scott just posted his scouting report.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/dt/Dorell-Scott.php

Late Round/FA pick up... I like the sound of that. Here we better come! :)

herniateddisc
04-11-2009, 09:24 AM
Scott just posted his scouting report.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/dt/Dorell-Scott.php

Late Round/FA pick up... I like the sound of that. Here we better come! :)

This exactly the type of prospect I want for a NT if we ignore the need early on.

Big, can get bigger, under 5 Forty is pretty amazing at that size.

D-Unit
04-11-2009, 12:01 PM
This exactly the type of prospect I want for a NT if we ignore the need early on.

Big, can get bigger, under 5 Forty is pretty amazing at that size.
That's what's up baby. Another reason I hate Brace. Brace is so overrated at this point... Ugh... makes me mad.

Here's another big brotha I wanna hype.

NT Vaughn Martin

Pro Day:
Height: 6031
Weight: 331
40 Yrd Dash: 5.00
20 Yrd Dash: 2.88
10 Yrd Dash: 1.68 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 33
Vertical Jump: 31
Broad Jump:
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.31
3-Cone Drill: 7.28


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Career Notes

In 24 games at Western Ontario, Martin registered 92 tackles (57 solos) with 7.5 sacks for minus 34 yards, 17.5 stops for losses of 66 yards and 22 quarterback pressures...Also recovered three fumble, returning one 41 yards, caused two fumbles, had a safety and returned an interception for a touchdown...Carried four times for 10 yards, including a pair of touchdowns.

Positives: Martin has a well-built frame with long arms, good chest muscle definition, tight waist and decent thickness in his thighs and calves. He actually looks a bit lean with his V-shaped torso and will surprise people when they find out he weighs more than 330 pounds. Martin lacks sudden explosiveness, but shows the initial quickness, balance and body control to charge hard in his backside pursuit. He keeps his pads down nicely for a player of his size and this allows him to gain position and hold his base well vs. double teams. He has the functional change of direction agility to work his way down the line. His arm strength lets him consistently gain separation, stuff and shed. He also has the feet to adjust on the move.

Negatives: He might be at maximum growth potential, as any additional bulk on his frame could impede his explosion off the snap. Martin is still a neophyte on the football field, having just two years of college and one year of prep school experience. He has played mostly on sheer instincts, but is a highly intelligent player who will not have problems retaining plays. Martin plays with good intensity and effort. He is very tough in the trenches.

Compares To: GRADY JACKSON, Detroit -- Much like when Jackson entered the NFL in 1997, Martin is rawer than sushi when it comes to playing the game of football. He is like a bull in a china shop in the trenches, hitting everything in sight based on sheer instincts rather than knowledge. He will need a patient coach to help him learn the techniques of the game and the team that selects him will have to give him a crash course in how to play American-brand football and help him adjust from the Canadian game, but his athletic ability is awesome and while he is a boom or bust type, with his work ethic and desire don't bet against him.



http://bleacherreport.com/articles/147618-nfl-draft-sleeper-profile-western-ontario-dt-vaughn-martin

We have all heard of the small school prospect. Perhaps a player like Marques Colston will emerge from a school like Hofstra, or Steve Smith and Chad Johnson both emerge from the same junior college.

The NFL, however, has never seen anything quite like 22-year old Vaughn Martin. An intriguing article on NFL.com prompted me to take a look at this "mystery" prospect.

Martin is a red-shirt sophomore out of Western Ontario University, a school not known for producing many NFL studs. In fact, Martin would become the one and only Western Ontario player to grace an NFL field in 2009.

So why bring this kid up? He's just another NFL hopeful right? Wrong.

At a recent pro day held just across the border between the United States and Canada, Martin wowed scouts with his athletic ability. He measures at 6'4" 327 pounds, and ran the 40-yard dash in 5.04 seconds. He also threw up 225 pounds on the bench press 32 times.

Even though he passed up a chance to play defensive tackle for the Michigan State Spartans coming out of high school, he still plans on playing professionally nowhere but here in the United States, even forgoing three years of college eligibility to do so.

“I’m raw, but I am extremely athletic,” Martin told NFL.com. “I am bigger than most of the guys already playing those positions and I’m tough. With me, you get a blank canvas to mold into whatever you want to mold me into.”

Martin's passing on three years of eligibility doesn't affect him with Western Ontario, and even if he goes undrafted, he can still return there and play football again. However, he has no intentions of pursuing that option.

It will be interesting, at the very least, to see what happens to this "diamond in the rough" come draft day.


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If you’ve followed Western Mustangs football for the past two seasons, you’re probably familiar with Vaughn Martin.

What you may not know is that the six-foot-three, 328-pound defensive lineman declared his eligibility for the 2009 National Football League draft last week.

If Martin is drafted or signed as a free agent, he’ll be the 24th Canadian Interuniversity Sport player, and fifth Mustang, to make an NFL roster.

Martin may have played his final down in Purple and Silver, as 24 of the 32 NFL teams have already expressed interest in him.

“The teams that have looked at him like what they’ve seen,” Western head coach Greg Marshall said. “They like Vaughn. They think he’s athletic, they think he’s a good kid and someone that they can coach.”

Martin has already taken the Wonderlic — an aptitude test taken by all prospective draftees — and scored a 38, placing him in the 99th percentile.

As well, Martin tallied 31 reps of the 225-pound bench press, which would place him in a tie for seventh amongst the 53 defensive linemen that were invited to the NFL combine.

Even though Martin was not invited to the combine, his agent, former Mustangs receiver Matt Baxter of Enter-Sports Management, has scheduled two pro days in March for scouts to evaluate his abilities.

“He needed for a few more teams to ask for him to be there,” Baxter said. “It just gives him a couple more weeks to work on his speed and strength.”

Even though Martin has only been playing football since the 10th grade, his athleticism and ability to learn quickly make him attractive to NFL teams.

“There’s a lot of big guys [in the draft], but none as athletic as Vaughn,” Marshall said. “Vaughn’s a big man who moves with a lot of quickness, a lot of agility and a lot of power.”

Yet amidst the excitement of playing professional football, Martin admitted his decision to declare was difficult.

“It’s bittersweet because I really do love it here,” Martin said. “I really love this program. I love the school.”

But after consulting the NFL advisory committee, he was given the thumbs up to pursue the draft.

“They basically look at everything — your film, they call teams, etc. — and they look to see how much interest is out there,” Martin said. “They looked and reviewed my stuff and said, ‘Yeah, you should probably come up this year.’”

Playing in the CIS added an additional incentive, as players retain their eligibility to play university football after declaring for the draft whereas NCAA players do not.

Whether or not Martin will utilize his remaining three years of eligibility is unknown, but teams are definitely interested.

“At the very least, if he goes undrafted, a few teams have already said they would bring him into training camp,” Baxter said.

It is not uncommon for undrafted players to make an impact on their respective teams.

Kurt Warner, Antonio Gates and Adam Vinatieri all went undrafted.

So did Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker James Harrison, who helped his team win a Super Bowl and was named the NFL Defensive Player of the Year last season.

While it may be too early to speculate, cracking an NFL roster seems like a realistic goal for Martin.

“We’ll make plans that he’s not going to be here,” Marshall said. “If he’s back, then great for us, but we really want to wish him well.”

Despite the possibility of losing one of his best players, Marshall is still confident in his team.

“It’s a win-win situation for us because if Vaughn makes the team in the NFL, it’s good for us,” he said. “Part of my job isn’t just to win championships and [the] Yates Cup; it’s to provide players with opportunities like this.”

Baxter remains optimistic about his client, regardless if Martin’s name is announced in late April.

“It only takes one of the 32 teams to take a chance on him,” Baxter said. “Whoever gets Vaughn will get one of the best steals of this year’s draft.”




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Vaughn Martin, a 6’3”, 313 pound defensive lineman who grew up in London Ontario, is attracting a lot of attention from NFL Scouts.

Vaughn, who was a member of the Forest City Thunderbirds and Team Canada at the 2006 NFL Global Junior Championship in Detroit, played last season for the University of Western Ontario Mustangs.

After consulting with the NFL Draft advisory committee Martin declared for the draft despite having three years of CIS eligibility remaining.

“They basically look at everything — your film, they call teams, etc. — and they look to see how much interest is out there,” Martin told the UWO Gazette. “They looked and reviewed my stuff and said, ‘Yeah, you should probably come up this year.’”

He has since worked our for dozens of NFL clubs and, according to TSN football analyst Duane Ford, is proving that he is not only a gifted football player but also a freakish athlete. According to Ford the Jamaican born Martin bench pressed 225 lbs. 33 times and, for a man of his size, a jaw-dropping 20-yard shuttle time of 4.31 seconds.

By entering the Draft and auditioning for NFL scouts Martin hopes to follow in the footsteps of Israel Idonije, Dan Federkeil and Samuel Giguere – all CIS players who were given a chance in the NFL due to raw athletic ability.

“The teams that have looked at him like what they’ve seen,” Western head coach Greg Marshall told the Gazette’s Kevin Melhuish. “They like Vaughn. They think he’s athletic, they think he’s a good kid and someone that they can coach.”

Martin’s Wonderlic score (an aptitude test taken by all prospective draftees ) was 38, placing him in the 99th percentile.

“It’s a win-win situation for us because if Vaughn makes the team in the NFL, it’s good for us,” Marshall told the Gazette. “Part of my job isn’t just to win championships and [the] Yates Cup; it’s to provide players with opportunities like this.”

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/30/mystery-defensive-lineman-gaining-notice/

“Mystery” Defensive Lineman Gaining Notice
Posted by Aaron Wilson on March 30, 2009, 2:29 p.m. EDT
Canadian defensive lineman Vaughn Martin is emerging as an eye-catching sleeper NFL draft prospect after a series of strong workouts.

The 6′4,” 327-pound Western Ontario standout ran the 40-yard dash in 5.04 seconds and bench pressed 225 pounds 32 times at his recent Pro Day.

There’s also a new YouTube video where Martin launches a scout into the air in a drill.

A former Michigan State recruit who opted to remain close to home and play in Canada, Martin left Western Ontario with three years of eligibility remaining to declare for the NFL draft.

“I’m raw, but I am extremely athletic,” Martin told NFL.com. “I am bigger than most of the guys already playing those positions and I’m tough. With me, you get a blank canvas to mold into whatever you want to mold me into.”

Although Martin, 22, is allowed under Canadian rules to return to school and retain his eligibility if he doesn’t get drafted, he has said he doesn’t intend to do so and will pursue the NFL regardless of whether he’s drafted or not.

A native of Jamaica who played high school football in Canada, Martin isn’t eligible for the CFL draft until 2011.

In addition to playing on the defensive line, Martin rushed for two touchdowns as a short-yardage back last season.

Ron Brace wishes he haul ass like this:

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One of the most talented athletes in the Canadian collegiate ranks, Martin brought back memories of William "Refrigerator" Perry for his exploits as a short-yardage blocker and fullback during his second season with the Mustangs. Certainly in much better physical shape than Perry, he displays excellent explosion off the snap, utilizing that quickness to terrorize quarterbacks.

Having moved to defensive end for the 2008 campaign, Martin played a major role in the team's success en route to winning the Yates Cup and playing for the Vanier Cup (Canadian national title). His ability to handle multiple blockers and contain the inside running game saw his opponents frustrated, as they managed to gain only seven yards on 36 rushing plays (0.19 ypc) directed toward him. With his timing and leaping ability, he also saw his opponent complete just 3 of 16 passes into his area (18.75%) for a mere 6 yards.

Nicknamed "Vicious" by his teammates, the defensive line has come to rely upon him to serve as the unit's anchor. Former teammate and fellow down lineman Tom Dolezel recently stated, "We've been playing really well, but I think it is really because Vaughn has come in and basically anchored that strong side."

Born on the island of Jamaica, Martin was raised in Toronto and London, Ontario. He attended South Secondary School, playing football for head coach Mike Stenning. He competed as a defensive end, defensive tackle and fullback in high school, recording 90 tackles with five stops behind the line of scrimmage in 2004. The three-time starter was rated one of the top 12 defensive ends in Ontario by All-Star Football and Weir's Magazine. He also received a two-star prospect rating from Rivals.com.

Prior to beginning his collegiate career, Martin competed for two summers with the Forest City Thunderbirds in the Central Ontario Football League. He also was a member of Team Canada, playing in the 2006 NFL Global Junior Championship in Detroit. He was named to the NFL Global Junior Championship X All-Tournament Team after helping Team Canada to a perfect 5-0 record, including five shutouts.

That season, he finished fourth on the squad in tackles with 10 (9 solos) and made four tackles for losses (12 yards) in the tournament, including two sacks for minus 9 yards. He recorded three solo hits, including a 4-yard sack, in Team Canada's 10-0 victory over Team U.S.A. in the championship game. He also registered three solo stops, including one for a loss, in a third-round game vs. Team U.S.A and posted his first sack of the tournament in the opening-round game vs. Team Japan.

Martin's stellar performances drew the attention of several United States major colleges. He turned down scholarship offers from Toledo and Ohio University to enroll at Michigan State in 2006, but failed to qualify due to academic transcript issues. He then enrolled at Milford Academy, a prep school in New York.

Martin later returned home to Ontario, where Western Ontario head coach Mickey Donovan convinced the talented athlete to enroll at the university. After a lunch-time meeting, the coach was able to sway him from choosing other interested schools, including Concordia (CIS) and Akron, for the 2007 season. What also helped Martin in his decision was the fact that Chris Marcus, Western's former special teams coordinator, coached him at South Secondary School.

Martin saw action at defensive tackle and end during his first season at Western Ontario. On the field, he made steady progress each week, finishing the season with 56 tackles (35 solos), three sacks and a fumble recovery. Known both for excellent pass-rushing and run-stopping ability, his versatile defensive skill-set immediately put fear into opposing teams.

In 2008, Martin performed mostly at defensive tackle earlier in the year, but he also had great success filling in for injured teammate Chris Greaves at defensive end, earning GoodLife Fitness Athlete of the Week honors for his performance at that position vs. Queen's. In 12 games, he collected 36 tackles (22 solos) with 3.5 sacks, 7.5 stops behind the line of scrimmage and 13 pressures. He returned an interception for a touchdown, registered a safety, caused a fumble and recovered two others. He provided stellar blocking at the fullback position, where he scored twice on a pair of 3-yard rushing attempts, finishing with 10 yards on four carries.

GENERAL REPORT: GRADE: 6.10
Body Structure: Martin has a well-built frame with long arms, good chest muscle definition, tight waist and decent thickness in his thighs and calves. He actually looks a bit lean with his V-shaped torso and will surprise people when they find out he weighs more than 330 pounds. He might be at maximum growth potential though, as any additional bulk on his frame could impede his explosion off the snap.

Athletic Ability: Martin lacks sudden explosiveness, but shows the initial quickness, balance and body control to charge hard in his backside pursuit. He keeps his pads down nicely for a player of his size and this allows him to gain position and hold his base well vs. double teams. He has the functional change of direction agility to work his way down the line. His arm strength lets him consistently gain separation, stuff and shed. He also has the feet to adjust on the move. GRADE: 7.0

Football Sense: Martin is still a neophyte on the football field, having just two years of college and one year of prep school experience. He has played mostly on sheer instincts, but is a highly intelligent player who will not have problems retaining plays. All he needs is a patient coach to teach him proper technique and that coach will be rewarded with good value down the road. GRADE: 5.0

Character: Martin is articulate and a true class act. There are no off-field issues and he has been very receptive to whatever the coaches ask from him. He is much more mature than most players his age and is the type that not only shows initiative, but has a genuine good nature off the field. But he lives up to his nickname "Vicious" on the football field. GRADE: 6.0

Competitiveness: Martin plays with good intensity and effort. He is very tough in the trenches, where he certainly lives up to his nickname. You will never see him back down from a challenge and plays with such a nasty temperament, the coaches might need to ask him to tone it down, fearing for the opponent's safety. GRADE: 6.0

Work Habits: Despite his young age, Martin is a leader by example type. The staff says he will not only play with pain, but simply refuses to come off the field when hurt. He has a strong work ethic and is a good program type that does not hesitate to mentor the younger players. When in a crunch last year, the coaches asked him to play on offense as a short-yardage runner, producing three touchdowns on six carries in the process (two by Martin and another when he executed a lateral to a teammate after taking the ball to midfield, only to throw a block to spring his teammate for an eventual score). GRADE: 6.5

ATHLETIC REPORT: GRADE: 5.77
Explosion/Pursuit: Martin has good initial quickness coming off the snap, and for a player of his size that burst can surprise an offensive lineman. He has the ability to gain advantage when he keeps his feet on the move and the thing you notice on film is his ability to use his long reach to get his hands on an offensive lineman. Even when he is late off the snap, he does an efficient job of using his long arm reach and strength to gain advantage out of his stance. He has enough speed to slip off blocks and uses his hands well to keep the opponent off his body. He also shows enough functional quickness to pursue from the backside. GRADE: 6.2

Strength at Point: Martin shows that he has the ability to sit and anchor at the point of attack, but because of his relative inexperience playing football he just lacks consistency. However, when he plants his foot into the ground to anchor at the point of attack, he is quite effective at shooting the gaps when working in-line. He might be a better fit for tackle due to his lack of edge quickness, but he has the strength and size to destroy interior blockers on contact and bull rush with consistency. He has the bulk and raw power to control and separate, but will need some hand technique refinement. GRADE: 7.0

Use of Hands: Martin has yet to grasp the proper hand placement and technique, but just needs more reps and a patient teacher to further his development. Even though he is raw in this department, he demonstrates a punishing hand punch and excellent overall strength to easily handle multiple blockers, stack and control. When blockers do get into his chest (will short arm when he stands up), he still gives a good second effort in attempts to disengage. He has a strong hand punch, but needs to recoil and set quicker when engaging blockers. He also must keep his hands active, as he lacks ideal chop and rip moves when trying to disengage. GRADE: 5.4

Lateral Pursuit/Effort: For a player his size, Martin shows impressive balance and lateral moves. He keeps his feet and uses his long arms to avoid low blocks. With his quickness and hip flip, he is capable of getting an edge on blockers. He shows good desire and effort in his lateral pursuit (more on short area play than going long distances). He also plays with a steady motor, but sometimes his momentum will force him to out-run plays (needs to develop better stop-&-go action). GRADE: 6.4

Tackling Ability: Martin is raw technique wise, but when he plays at a low pad level he is an efficient wrap-up tackler whose strength lets him quickly disengage from blocks. He has the lower body power in his anchor to neutralize the double-team action, consistently stacking while holding ground. He shows the potential of being a solid open-field tackler, but first must grasp the concept for angling better. The thing you see on film is his ability to square up, bring his hips and drive through the ball carrier. GRADE: 5.3

Run Defense: Martin is still learning the nuances of the game, but he shows good urgency chasing the ball carrier, just needing to take better angles in pursuit. He shows the athleticism and body control to stay up and play the game on his feet. With his strength and bulk, he should not have problems vs. double teams, especially with his ability to hold and split through. He does a nice job of neutralizing the outside run and forcing it back inside. His long arms let him engulf ball carriers, showing good strike form to wrap, secure and take down. He will generally play at a good pad level, but will sometimes get high in his stance, resulting in blockers getting underneath his pads to lock him out. GRADE: 6.0

Pass Rush: Martin is really a bull in a china shop when he gets into the backfield, as he does not always take proper angles to seal the deal. He shows very good hip flip and hand usage, but he is just a raw, power-oriented pass rusher than an explosive edge rusher, making him a better candidate to play one-gap as a defensive tackle. He still lacks an array of moves as a pass rusher and is more of a "meat & potatoes" type that prefers to punish the blocker rather than try to avoid. GRADE: 5.0

Closing on the QB: Martin presses the corner well and uses his strength to compensate for adequate awareness and angling in attempts to pressure the pocket. He needs to learn how to gear down, as he will get too reckless and over-pursue the play, but with his raw strength he does have some success when he collides and pushes blockers back into the pocket. GRADE: 5.3

Instincts/Recognition: Martin is still developing valid instincts and great vision to quickly locate and run to the ball. He is making steady progress with his awareness of blocking schemes and does a good job of locking out blockers and locating the ball at the X's. He still needs to learn more technique (angling, more array of moves), but with his relative inexperience just give him a few years to see if he can develop. The potential could be limitless. GRADE: 5.3

Offensive Performance: Martin has additional value on offense, as he does a good job of staying low in his pads and squaring his shoulders to widen and sustain the rushing lanes as a lead blocker. He also uses his powerful leg drive to break tackles and can be a benefit to a team as a short-yardage runner, demonstrating good ball security and the hip snap to break tackles with his inside runs. GRADE: 6.3


OVERALL GRADE: 5.83

--Report by Dave-Te' Thomas
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LonghornsLegend
04-14-2009, 10:42 PM
I like the sound of him, these athletic guys who need coached up on defense are always interesting to me because I like how Wade makes the scheme fit the players, so versatile athletic guys we can never have enough of...He has a history that some what resembles Jay Ratliff, highly athletic big man who has played multiple positions and could really come into his own once he has some coaching.


I love the info I'm getting about NT prospects, I am hoping to bring in one of these guys.

LonghornsLegend
04-14-2009, 11:16 PM
Roger Allen Missouri Western State 6'3 325

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Testing:
40: 5.25
Vertical: 28 inches
Broad Jump: 9 foot 1
Short Shuttle: 4.80
3 Cone Drill: 8.30
Bench Press: 38 reps


The one thing you hear thrown around when talking about Roger Allen is, "is he the next Larry Allen", that alone should get Cowboy fans interest and see what he's about.


Here's someone I think fits the mold of what we want at Guard, I've been sporting him in my sig so I feel like I should talk him up a bit. We need another Guard and I feel like we can wait to take one, and I think he offers much of the same as Duke Robinson.


Not going to front like I saw him play, I don't remember getting many Missouri Western games lol but I did read up on him quite a bit so I'll let the experts give their take on him first:


Pros: This guy can move!! He has great feet and hands and incredible power on the field. Great size with great feet is a rare find...

Cons: He does need to work on 40 time speed but more than makes up for it in the weight room.
http://www.fantasyfootballjungle.com/nfl_draft_prospect/Roger_Allen/1538





Run Blocking: Allen shows the loose hips and strong hand strike on contact to dominate the defender. He is a very good screen-and-wall off type who works hard to finish. He can punish his man when driving off his initial step and is a fine road grader who can drop his weight and drive through his blocks, thanks to above average leg strength. He is very good at using his hands to lock on (see 2008 Pittsburg State, Fort Hays State and Augustana games) and has a keen understanding for positioning. He has very good balance on the move, which is evident by his ability to land on second-level defenders. He will struggle with balance when he gets his base too narrow, but that is rare to happen. He displays good consistency in attempts to seal and wall off while working in unison with his center, showing ease of movement playing in space. When he gets position on a defender, he knows how to use his mass and hand punch to shock and jolt. He is also especially effective at gaining movement when he has an angle on people and works hard to maintain position and get movement at the point of attack. GRADE: 6.9

Pass Blocking: Having allowed just one sack in his last two years, Allen has done well in protecting his quarterback. He plays flat-footed and generates a strong anchor and power base. He uses his hands well to catch the defender and is quick to recover vs. counter moves. He has very good short area kick slide and hand usage, showing proper knee bend to quickly redirect. He is equally effective when anchoring and locking out vs. power as he is when sliding and adjusting to quickness. He uses his hands well to set and hold off on contact and has more than enough strength to anchor (could use more bulk for the NFL level). GRADE: 6.8

Compares To: BRIAN WINTERS, Kansas City -- Like Winters, Allen has been a model of consistency throughout his career. You can also see a little of Larry Allen (ex-Dallas and San Francisco) in his play, as he shows the same tenacity, brute strength and uncanny instincts to consistently be in position to lock on and control the defender. He is a true warrior who played part of the 2008 season with a shoulder injury that would sideline most others. With a weak crop of major college talent at this position, Allen could turn out to be the Cinderella story of the 2009 draft, especially since the shoulder injury that bothered him during 2008 was recently given a clean bill of health from renowned surgeon, Dr. James Andrews.

OVERALL GRADE: 6.64 *************.com
http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=112&f=1786&t=4080613



Also, something to take note of in the article:



The Cowboys and Panthers invited him to their suite for an in depth interview during the combine:


Positive that he's on our radar.


http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/87638/roger_allen.jpg


In the school's history, there has never been an offensive lineman that could dominate a game the way Allen did during his 48 contests starting for the Griffons. The former Mid-America Intercollegiate Athletics Association Freshman of the Year (first offensive lineman to ever earn that award) has a mantel full of postseason honors for each of his seasons at MWSU.

The offense struggled most of the year, but their top prospect produced a league-high 107 knockdowns while posting 14 touchdown-resulting blocks. Allen finished his final season with a career-high blocking consistency of 88.25 percent, the highest mark earned by a blocker in the NCAA Division II ranks.


http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=112&f=1786&t=4080613





The things to really like about Allen is his lateral movement and grades well all around on both run and pass blocking (only one sack is attributed to Allen in the last two years) and his character and work ethic on/off the field.
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/3/9/787610/getting-to-know-roger-alle






Athletic Ability: Allen has outstanding power for a player his size. He shows good athletic agility getting out in front on sweeps and pulls and is very flexible when redirecting. He shows good knee bend and adequate quickness for a trap blocker and runs with a normal stride working into the second level. He demonstrates the fluid change of direction skills and proper weight distribution in space and has good body quickness in his kick slide. He also shows the foot agility, balance and body control to get out and stalk second-level defenders. He maintains good balance on drive blocks and is quick enough when running long distances. In the short area, he shows good balance and a fluid running stride. He is quick in his retreat setting up in pass protection and has the functional overall flexibility to get back into the action on the move, taking proper angles to neutralize linebackers. He plays flat-footed with his hands properly inside his frame to gain leverage. GRADE: 6.7



Football Sense: Allen plays with very good field awareness and vision. He shows valid instincts and the ability to adjust on the move to different schemes and needs just normal reps to retain plays. He understands all blocking schemes and options and is smart enough to be used in making calls up front. He has a good knowledge of the games, studies tapes and is well-prepared for his upcoming opponent. He has no problems digesting a complicated playbook or taking those plays from the chalkboard to the playing field. He makes good adjustments during game action and works well in unison with his other line mates. GRADE: 6.6



Character: Allen is a perfect mentor for the team's younger players. He has no known off-field issues and is the type that will play through pain. He communicates well with his teammates and staff and is highly respected by the organization. He is mature beyond his years and shows great responsibility, taking pride in his leadership ability. GRADE: 6.9



Competitiveness: Allen has a lot of moxie and aggression in his play. He competed most of the 2008 season with a shoulder problem, yet logged the most action of any offensive player. He is a very consistent performer who plays with good urgency. He simply dominated at this level of play and competes well vs. top-rated competition. He works hard to finish blocks and explodes with good force coming out of his stance. He plays at a high intensity level with tremendous aggression. He has this "search and destroy" attitude taking on level-two defenders and plays with an attitude that he would much rather punish his opponent rather than just contain them. He plays until the whistle and there is simply no quit in him (evident by his stellar performances throughout the team's loses in 2008). He will not hesitate in throwing an elbow (see 2008 Pittsburg State and Emporia State games) and shows outstanding tenacity in his overall play. His mean streak is evident throughout his play coming out of his stance, as he keeps his head on a swivel, looking for other targets to hit. He is known for his ability to look for defenders down field and attacks his man hard in every snap. GRADE: 6.8



Work Habits: Allen is well-known throughout the league as a tough, physical and determined player. He does the "little extras" after practices and in the weight room, puts in more hours watching tapes and is readily available to mentor younger teammates. He takes pride in his consistent performances and takes well to hard coaching. The staff calls him an outstanding worker and player on game day. He plays like he practices and is a good mentor on the offensive line. He has responded well to his two-time role as team captain and while he appears quiet at times off the field, he will not hesitate to take a teammate to task if he thinks that player is not performing to the best of his ability. Football is very important to him. GRADE: 6.7




Initial Quickness: Allen has good initial quickness to gain advantage, as he plays with a low pad level and shows good balance with his first step, generating suddenness and body quickness to leverage. He has the loose hips to make adjustments in space, but it is his pad level and hand punch that usually sees him gain instant advantage on a lethargic defender. He comes out of his stance with a wide anchor, good body control and keeps his hands inside his framework. He is best when used on short pulls, as his timed speed is just adequate when going long distances, though. He demonstrates good balance in his retreat setting up in pass protection. He gets off the ball with good urgency and pad level, and has the quickness to gain position off the snap and is very alert to movement, showing the nimble feet to redirect in the short area. He shows good snap quickness in the shotgun and knows how to get into position to sustain defenders. He has the explosion and arm reach to consistently establish himself getting into his reach blocks and in maintaining position. GRADE: 6.3



Lateral Movement: Allen is quite effective getting in front on short pulls and traps. His initial quickness on the pull lets him land on targets when working in close quarters. He takes good angles in space and makes proper adjustment moving into the second level. He is very balanced utilizing his kick slide, while also staying square and showing the ability to redirect. It is rare to see him revert to waist bending, as he shows good ability to flip his hips, sink his pads and flow with the play. He shows good agility in his kick slide and moves from side to side with good flexibility. The thing you see on game films (see 2008 Northern State, Pittsburg State and Emporia State games) is his ability to execute the mini-pulls and traps with ease of movement. GRADE: 6.9



Balance/Stays On Feet: Allen shows good cover-up ability on the move, consistently finishing once engaged with the defender. He has those good, long arms to leverage and control and excels when trying to reach and hold his position or when rerouting his opponent. In the past, he would sometimes bend at the waist, and it would lead to him over-extending on reach blocks. But during his last two seasons, he has learned to compensate, showing better patience to let the defenders come to him rather than lunge at his opponent. He has a strong anchor and base to maintain position and has shown very good hand placement in his quest to defeat counter moves. He comes off the snap with good explosion and does a nice job of keeping his feet and staying in control when on the move. He has good body control in his attempts to sustain and when he keeps his pads down, he does a great job of getting under defenders to leverage them during the running game. GRADE: 6.7


Explosion/Pop: Allen might generate great initial explosion, but he is much more effective on the short pulls than when running long distances (lack of great timed speed). He gets a strong initial surge on contact and is a classic mauler with a brutal hand punch to shock and jolt. He is especially effective helping out his center and is a dominating drive blocker at this level who combines strength and mass to sustain as an in-line blocker. His impressive upper body power lets him consistently shock defenders. When he sinks and rolls his hips, his explosion in the short area is excellent. He generates a strong punch in pass protection and maintains balance while showing he is quick to recover vs. speedy edge moves. GRADE: 6.6




He was also recruited as a DE, so we probably haven't seen the best of this guy just yet...Character wise, leadership qualities, a big mauler that has a mean streak, that's the type of Guard I want on my team.



Injuries would probably be his biggest downfall if you ask me, as he played through one injury and suffered a sports hernia in the Texas vs Nation game I believe which slowed his workouts, but could also make him be available at a reasonable time.


I'm very intrigued by his skill set and intangibles, he's got everything you look for in a starting Guard, and he's looking like he'll be a steal for somebody, hopefully our interest was of substance.

D-Unit
04-15-2009, 12:39 AM
Wow! I haven't even heard of him. Sounds/looks like a complete diamond in the rough. I WANT HIM! Like seriously... Can I put him in my ideal mock?

Strength/Athleticism/Smarts/Balance... and while I'm not racist, I like Black OL better.

Nice hype!

LonghornsLegend
04-15-2009, 05:19 PM
Throw him in there lol, I'm still a big fan of Duke in the 3rd if there but this guy offers alot of the same things and maybe more in the 5th/6th round...I am all for adding a Guard though and he's the type of guy I want, doesn't require an early pick but could easily win a starting guard spot sooner then later.

Burns336
04-15-2009, 05:24 PM
Wow! I haven't even heard of him. Sounds/looks like a complete diamond in the rough. I WANT HIM! Like seriously... Can I put him in my ideal mock?

Strength/Athleticism/Smarts/Balance... and while I'm not racist, I like Black OL better.

Nice hype!

That's funny D -- I'd almost prefer all black players except for Kicker/Punter/QB/TE and LB is a toss up for me.

Any WR/Oline/Dline/CB/S/RB should be black for me. I make exceptions for beasts like Columbo though. I love his attitude.

D-Unit
04-15-2009, 05:45 PM
That's funny D -- I'd almost prefer all black players except for Kicker/Punter/QB/TE and LB is a toss up for me.

Any WR/Oline/Dline/CB/S/RB should be black for me. I make exceptions for beasts like Columbo though. I love his attitude.
I'm right with you there. Race plays a factor in genes, so that's my logic.

As a Hawaii football fan, I'm the same with the Warriors... and that's what they do... they recruit Polynesians at FB, OL, DL, LB...even S. But at the skilled positions, that require speed, they go to the mainland to get Black players.... RB, WR, CB, LB. Our QBs... guess what color? White. It's been the best formula and best kept secret. Nobody will outright say it, but that's what they do.

herniateddisc
04-15-2009, 06:58 PM
Wow! I haven't even heard of him. Sounds/looks like a complete diamond in the rough. I WANT HIM! Like seriously... Can I put him in my ideal mock?

Strength/Athleticism/Smarts/Balance... and while I'm not racist, I like Black OL better.

Nice hype!

Belichick, Parcells, Coughlin and Shanahan might disagree over OL.

D-Unit
04-15-2009, 08:15 PM
Belichick, Parcells, Coughlin and Shanahan might disagree over OL.
I know this. I love Shanny's ZBS. His system made any RB look good.

fryman
04-19-2009, 11:16 PM
Just stopping in for my yearly promotion of an lllinois State player.

This year- Tom Nelson, S, 6-0 200 lbs., 40 time- 4.40 (at Northwestern's pro-day)

http://www.pantagraph.com/content/articles/2007/09/10/sports/doc46e4b1f80c8a0298569084.jpg

Strengths: Is an athletic safety who was a highly productive four-year starter at Illinois State. Is very smart and has great instincts, which helped him consistently be around the ball and make a lot of plays. Is quick and fast, giving him good range against the pass. Reads the QB well, breaks quickly and can get out to the sideline to help in over-the-top coverage. Has the hands to make tough interceptions when he is in position. Does a good job of planting, driving and closing quickly on passes in front of him; gets there in time to make the tackle right after the catch. Comes up quickly in run support; will fight to get to the ball carrier and is a willing tackler. Is a good punt and kick returner and played on all the special-teams coverage units in college.

Weaknesses: Is not huge and must become more physical against the run. Must improve at tackling bigger ball carriers. Is inconsistent in his ball skills and often does not break up passes when he is in position. Is not an elite athlete and will have trouble covering the top-level tight ends; also will struggle to cover slot receivers.

Bottom line: Nelson is an underrated safety who has not received a lot of publicity, but he has many of the tools to become a starter in the NFL. His combination of intelligence, instincts, toughness and better-than-expected athleticism make him a versatile defender who is consistently around the ball and making a lot of plays. Nelson won't be drafted as highly as we have him rated, but in time he will prove to be a quality starting safety. He reminds us of the Jets' Jim Leonhard, who came into his own during the 2008 season with Baltimore. Additionally, Nelson will be an impact special teams player as a rookie. - http://warroom.sportingnews.com/nfl/draft/2009/players/9080.html


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D-Unit
12-02-2009, 02:32 PM
I figured this is kinda fun... I like to do this to a few players every year and since these posts always get burried year after year, I thought this would be a nice way to find it again in the future when we look back and laugh. :D

So go ahead... Hype someone up! Post pics, videos, stats, personal analysis/opinions... the WORKS! :p
Remember this? It's back for 2009!!!

Supporting Caste
12-03-2009, 02:34 PM
Haha! Good work. What the hell happened to Pegues?

Some guys I was hyping in the 2009 draft:

(Players I'm convinced I was right about)


Jairus Byrd (How wonderful would it be to have this guy at FS now? UGH)

Chris Wells (If he stays reasonably healthy he'll be a top 5 RB in no time IMO)

Hakeem Nicks (GODDAMMIT JERRUH YOU LET THE GIANTS GET THE NEXT IRVIN AND WE HAVE ROY WILLIAMS INSTEAD AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH)

Brandon Pettigrew (but who didn't like him?)

Michael Oher (see Pettigrew)

Kory Sheets (I know he's done nothing but I'm entirely confident this kid will be a starter, and a good one)

(players it looks like I was wrong about)

Brian Robiskie (WTF Rob? It is early though)
DeAngelo Smith (Relative to his 5th round pick status...but still. He was just horrible)
Mike Mickens (Relative to his 7th round pick status...I still can't believe him and Smith. WTF, guys?)



(jury's out)

Louis Delmas
Connor Barwin (Guy is an incredible athlete, that's for sure)
David Veikune
Rashad Johnson
Travis Beckum (though I said he should move to WR)
Jason Phillips
Jarrett Dillard
Scott McKillop
James Davis

Also, I thought LeSean McCoy would be a turd. He's been good so far.



2010 edition coming soon.

D-Unit
12-03-2009, 04:37 PM
Haha! Good work. What the hell happened to Pegues?

Some guys I was hyping in the 2009 draft:

(Players I'm convinced I was right about)


Jairus Byrd (How wonderful would it be to have this guy at FS now? UGH)

Chris Wells (If he stays reasonably healthy he'll be a top 5 RB in no time IMO)

Hakeem Nicks (GODDAMMIT JERRUH YOU LET THE GIANTS GET THE NEXT IRVIN AND WE HAVE ROY WILLIAMS INSTEAD AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH)

Brandon Pettigrew (but who didn't like him?)

Michael Oher (see Pettigrew)

Kory Sheets (I know he's done nothing but I'm entirely confident this kid will be a starter, and a good one)

(players it looks like I was wrong about)

Brian Robiskie (WTF Rob? It is early though)
DeAngelo Smith (Relative to his 5th round pick status...but still. He was just horrible)
Mike Mickens (Relative to his 7th round pick status...I still can't believe him and Smith. WTF, guys?)



(jury's out)

Louis Delmas
Connor Barwin (Guy is an incredible athlete, that's for sure)
David Veikune
Rashad Johnson
Travis Beckum (though I said he should move to WR)
Jason Phillips
Jarrett Dillard
Scott McKillop
James Davis

Also, I thought LeSean McCoy would be a turd. He's been good so far.



2010 edition coming soon.
Did you really want us to take Wells, Sheets and Pettigrew? I didn't value RB and TE that high.

Interesting that you were hyping Veikune. Go Hawaii!


Guys I was hyping for our first pick:
Rey Maualuga - Stud
Jairus Byrd - Stud
Sean Smith - Stud
Jarron Gilbert - Jury's still out

Hyping for our later picks:
Brandon Tate - Jury's still out
Darcel McBath - Jury's still out
Sherrod Martin - Is he alive???
Chris Baker - Jury's still out
Johnny Knox - Stud
Cornelius Lewis - Is he alive???
Frantz Joseph - I was dead wrong.
Dorell Scott - Is he alive???
Donald Washington - Is he alive???
Coye Francies - Is he alive???
Xavier Fulton - Is he alive???
Jarrett Dillard - Is he alive???
Sammie Lee Hill - Who?
Vaughn Martin - I think he's doing ok.

Guys I bashed:
Louis Delmas - I was wrong. He's good.
William Moore - Jury's still out
Patrick Chung - Mediocre
Ron Brace - Jury's still out
Darry Beckwith - Is he alive?
Brian Robiskie - Bleh
Mohamed Massaquoi - Bleh
Louis Murphy - Don't care

Supporting Caste
12-03-2009, 06:04 PM
I wasn't saying we should draft them, I just thought they'd be good players. I wanted us to draft Byrd and Nicks.

And dude, Sherrod Martin is playing well for the Panthers. 3 INTs and might be a starting FS for them soon.

D-Unit
12-04-2009, 10:38 AM
I wasn't saying we should draft them, I just thought they'd be good players. I wanted us to draft Byrd and Nicks.

And dude, Sherrod Martin is playing well for the Panthers. 3 INTs and might be a starting FS for them soon.
That's cool. I thought we had a chance getting him. Haven't really followed guys.

romo4prez415
12-04-2009, 11:42 PM
Haha! Good work. What the hell happened to Pegues?

Some guys I was hyping in the 2009 draft:

(Players I'm convinced I was right about)


Jairus Byrd (How wonderful would it be to have this guy at FS now? UGH)

Chris Wells (If he stays reasonably healthy he'll be a top 5 RB in no time IMO)

Hakeem Nicks (GODDAMMIT JERRUH YOU LET THE GIANTS GET THE NEXT IRVIN AND WE HAVE ROY WILLIAMS INSTEAD AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH)

Brandon Pettigrew (but who didn't like him?)

Michael Oher (see Pettigrew)

Kory Sheets (I know he's done nothing but I'm entirely confident this kid will be a starter, and a good one)

(players it looks like I was wrong about)

Brian Robiskie (WTF Rob? It is early though)
DeAngelo Smith (Relative to his 5th round pick status...but still. He was just horrible)
Mike Mickens (Relative to his 7th round pick status...I still can't believe him and Smith. WTF, guys?)



(jury's out)

Louis Delmas
Connor Barwin (Guy is an incredible athlete, that's for sure)
David Veikune
Rashad Johnson
Travis Beckum (though I said he should move to WR)
Jason Phillips
Jarrett Dillard
Scott McKillop
James Davis

Also, I thought LeSean McCoy would be a turd. He's been good so far.



2010 edition coming soon.

Might as well put the guys I like also.

Players who I loved before the draft and I'm convinced I'm right about them

1. Beanie Wells RB
2. Percy Harvin WR
3. Kenny Britt WR
4. Mark Sanchez QB
5. Jairus Byrd FS
6. Josh Freeman QB ( I like more than Stafford but not as much as Sanchez)
7. Austin Collie WR
8. Brandon Gibson WR
9. Brandon Pettigrew TE
10. Sammie Stroughter WR

Guys I'm wrong about
1. Jermey Maclin (to an extent) I still don't think he'll be worth a 1st round pick but so far he's been solid
2. Brian Orakpo
3. James Laurinitis
4. DHB has looked pretty bad so far but it certainly doesn't help catching passes from Gradkowski and Russell.
5. Sean Smtih ( He looks like he's going to be a player)

Guys I like who the jury is out on

1. Larry English
2. Ron Brace
3. Scott McKillop
4. Stephen McGee
5.Coye Francies
6. Fenuki Tupou
7. Gatrell Johnson
8. Mitch King
9. Connor Barwin
10. Kory Sheets
11. Brandon Tate
12. Drew Willy

diesel
12-05-2009, 12:22 PM
I was really wrong about Harvin, didn't think it'd carry over. I didn't care for last years draft at all. This year has to be one of the best we've seen in a while.

D-Unit
12-08-2009, 03:12 AM
Perrish Cox, 6-0, 198
Cornerback, Kick Returner
Oklahoma State University


2009 Stats
36 tackles (34 solo)
4 Interceptions
15 Pass Breakups (Leads the nation)
1 Fumble Recovery


http://www.okstate.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/cox_perrish00.html

2009 ALL-BIG 12 FIRST TEAM (COACHES): DB
2009 ALL-BIG 12 SECOND TEAM (COACHES): KR/PR


- Leads all active FBS players and holds the Big 12 and OSU record with four career kickoff returns for touchdowns.
- 2008 All-America kick returner as selected by Sportsline.com.
- 3rd nationally and first in the Big 12 with 29.83 yards per kick return in 2008.
- OSU record holder with 2,155 career kickoff return yards.
- Big 12 record holder with two kickoff returns in a season.

http://www.orangepower.com/wallpapers/2006/football/233329840_24a42c3ad9_o.jpg


"If you haven’t heard of him yet, Perrish Cox will soon become a household name in draft circles. At 6-0, 198, he’s unlike many corners that have come out in recent years. His athletic ability and lockdown ability really make him a legit 1st round possible cornerback.

The main match-up I followed closely for Cox is when the Cowboys matched up against Georgia. Cox was opposite SEC 1st teamer AJ Green, and really managed to shut him down when Cox was in the game. He has long arms and outstanding ball skills to knock the ball away on red-zone fades and deep balls. A really under rated skills for a cornerback that Cox possesses is that he can not only read the quarterback for play indicators, but can use the receivers to tell exactly when the ball will arrive or where the route is going. He can really match-up man to man with bigger receivers because of his size, and rarely needs to be taken out of the game, outside of injury.

Cox also is a great tackler. He is great in open field and an either lay a big hit to a receiver, or trip up a running back with great consistency. Because of that skill and his great play in zone, a Cover 2 scheme could be an option at the NFL level. He has had a few off-the field issues in the past and doesn’t have great recovery speed, so those two things may result in him fading on draft boards.

Cox, who is as close as you’ll find in college football to a lockdown cornerback, also is one of the best return men in the country. A versatile athlete, Cox will definitely begin his assault draft boards very soon, and if you haven’t watched the Antonio Cromartie clone in Cox, I advise that you watch Cox work against some of the top receivers in the country."

http://optimumscouting.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/perrish-cox-report/

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OVERVIEW

It did not take long for Cox to make an impact on the field for the Cowboys after a U.S. Army All-American prep career in Waco. He returned the opening kickoff of the 2006 season for a touchdown - as a true freshman - becoming the first 'Poke to do that since Barry Sanders in his 1988 Heisman season.

Although Cox's punt (12.1-yard avg. on 41 returns, one touchdown in 2006-'07) and kickoff (25.0 avg. on 86 returns, four touchdowns from 2006-'08) return skills are formidable, teams are more intrigued by his potential as a shutdown corner on the edge. He has the size and ball skills to go along with the speed obvious with the ball in his hands.

He was granted honorable mention All-Big 12 notice by league coaches in 2008 after putting together his second consecutive season (including 21 consecutive starts) with two interceptions and eight pass breakups. Another excellent campaign on defense and special teams - with some improvement in his ball skills and physicality - could find Cox being selected in the draft's first round.

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ANALYSIS

Read & React: Recognizes routes (and whether he's the primary read) by receiver's body language. Keeps his eye on swing pass in the flat in zone coverage. Reads receiver screens, avoids the block and closes to make the play near or behind the line. A step slow attacking the ball in his zone or to chase plays.

Man Coverage: Should flourish as a press cover corner at the next level. Smooth hip transition from backpedal to run down sideline. Best in press coverage, using his length and size to neutralize the receiver, but could be more consistent getting his hands on jersey at the line. Keeps contact with receiver downfield to prevent separation. Often forces quarterback to look in another direction. Will lose his balance and footing on double moves.

Zone Coverage: Smooth pedal for his height and usually stays low. Maintains cushion for a few steps. Changes direction easily with receiver. Makes contact with receiver to knock him off his route before letting him go to the safety. Keeps eyes in the backfield in zone to make play on short throws or runs.

Closing/Recovery: Good arm length to knock away passes after recovering. Must learn to read receivers' eyes and turn for the ball in man. Can accelerate to the ball when it's in front of him, but has only adequate recovery speed if beaten off the line or on double moves. Only average hands for the interception, and will drop very catchable passes.

Run Support: Willing in run support, displaying the toughness to get after a ball carrier. Maintains outside leverage to keep running backs from getting the corner. Despite his height and well-developed upper body and leg builds, does not get off downfield blocks from larger receivers very well. Uses his speed to run around blocks on receiver screens.

Tackling: Closes on receivers well when playing off, and will wrap the legs or waist to secure the tackle immediately after the catch. Has the strength to lift receivers off the ground and plant them if in position. Drops his head when tackling in the open field, however, missing if the receiver has any elusiveness.

Intangibles: No major character concerns. Starting to take on a leadership role in the secondary. Good work ethic in the weight room, although it does not always translate on the field. Has three children. Solid kick returner with NFL size and speed but must improve his vision to find open lanes. Needs work on his blocking when in tandem return formation.

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11/19/09 - SCOUTING THE DEFENSE: Improvement has been steady for the Cowboys. The defense makes correct reads and is often in the right place, while capable of big plays. CB Perrish Cox was the star of the Texas Tech win, intercepting two passes and also breaking up three passes. Oklahoma State allowed a respectable 307 yards through the air, holding Texas Tech far below its 400-yard average, which ranked second nationally. PLAYERS TO WATCH: CB Perrish Cox - The senior was named the Big 12 Defensive Player of the Week after grabbing two interceptions against Texas Tech and also breaking up three passes.

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11/04/09 - 2009 JIM THORPE AWARD SEMIFINALIST: Oklahoma State senior cornerback Perrish Cox is one of 12 semifinalists for the Jim Thorpe Award, it was announced. The Thorpe Award is presented to the nation's top college defensive back. A first-team midseason All-American by SI.com, Cox leads the nation with 1.86 passes defended per game. Matching up against the opposition's top wide receiver on a weekly basis, Cox has proven himself to be one of the top corners in America. He limited Georgia's A.J. Green to only four catches for 52 yards and no touchdowns in the Cowboys' season-opening win over the Bulldogs. Additionally, he held Texas' Jordan Shipley well below his season averages by limiting the Longhorn star to six catches for 64 yards and no touchdowns. Shipley entered the game averaging 102 receiving yards per contest. Also one of the top return men in the country, Cox is the Big 12's all-time leader in kick return yards. He was the Big 12 special teams player of the week earlier this year after a game-changing 74-yard kick return against Georgia. He is one of four Cowboys so far this season to make the semifinalist list for major awards, joining OL Russell Okung (Rotary Lombardi Award), QB Zac Robinson (Davey O'Brien Award and Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award) and P Quinn Sharp (Ray Guy Award). The Thorpe Award list will be narrowed again on November 23, to three finalists who will be invited to the nationally telecast Home Depot ESPNU College Football Awards Show on December 10. - Oklahoma State football

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09/08/09 - BIG 12 WEEK 1 SPECIAL TEAMS PLAYER OF THE WEEK: Perrish Cox, Oklahoma State, DB/PR/KR, Sr, Waco, Texas...Perrish Cox returned the opening kickoff of the second half 74 yards to set up an Oklahoma State touchdown in its 24-10 win over No. 13 Georgia. It was the ninth return of more than 50 yards in his career. Cox also had a 16-yard punt return and compiled 97 total return yards in the game. - Big 12 football

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08/24/09 - Top 10 Senior Prospects: Big 12: 8. Perrish Cox, CB, Oklahoma State, 6-0, 195, 4.44: This Cowboy brings everything a team wants in a starting cornerback: good size, strength and excellent speed. Cox's return skills (2,155 career kickoff return yards, four returned for TDs; 496 punt return yards, one for TD) will contribute not only to special teams, but also give him the chance to change field position on interceptions. The honorable mention All-Big 12 pick has also proven his ball-hawking skills by making six picks and breaking up 21 passes in three seasons. - Chad Reuter, The Sports Xchange

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08/06/09 - 2009 THORPE AWARD PRESEASON WATCH LIST: Perrish Cox, Oklahoma State, has been selected one of 31 players to the preseason watch list for the Jim Thorpe Award, which is presented annually to the nation's top college defensive back. Cox leads all active FBS players and holds the Big 12 and OSU record with four career kickoff returns for touchdowns. A starter at cornerback who is closing in on several milestones in the return game and is a returning All-American in that category, he needs just 110 kickoff return yards to set the Big 12 career record. Cox finished the 2008 season with 32 tackles, eight pass break-ups and and two interceptions. - Oklahoma State football

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07/24/09 - 2009 PRESEASON ALL-BIG 12 FOOTBALL TEAM (MEDIA): KR Perrish Cox, Oklahoma State 6-0 195 Sr/3L Waco, Texas, has been selected Pre-season All-Big 12 for the 2009 college football season as voted on by media representatives. Cox leads all Football Bowl Subdivision players and holds both the OSU and Big 12 record with four career kickoff returns for touchdowns. - Oklahoma State football

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"He can help a team in so many ways, you almost don't know where to start."
-- Coach Gundy

...erm... I want this guy. So it will probably NOT happen. lol. :/

UTPATS
01-20-2010, 11:33 PM
My thoughts: Lamarr Houston was a highly touted player coming out of Colorado Springs. He started his career at DE and played well as a freshman and very well as a sophomore for the Horns. He was asked to bulk up and move inside for his junior year. He trained as a boxer during the 2008 off-season in order to improve his inside techniques. After a slow transition his junior year, he exploded for the Horns as a senior, finishing with 28 QB pressures and 8.0 sacks.

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July 2, 2009 - The rest of the Big 12 should consider themselves warned. Lamarr Houston is finally feeling comfortable at defensive tackle. After playing defensive end earlier in his college career, Houston moved inside last season to help fill a hole for Texas. A foot injury and his new surroundings kept him from really ever thriving at the new position last season. (ESPN’s Tim Griffin)

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2nd Team All-Big XII (2009)

Arguably Houston was the most impressive Longhorn on defense during the BCS Championship game. Although Kindle had the sacks to show for it, Houston’s consistent pressure and run stuffing plays held the Alabama offense in check.

2009
TKLS: 68
TFL: 22
PD: 4
FR: 2
Sacks: 8.0
28 QB Pressures


Lamarr Houston is currently projected by several draft expert entities to be taken in the 2-3 round range.

I see him moving back to DE in a 3-4 scheme. Would love the chance to take him. He is strong enough to take on the run but elusive enough to put much needed pressure from our DE position.

D-Unit
01-19-2011, 06:40 PM
It's BAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!

Post coming soon...

D-Unit
01-19-2011, 07:01 PM
Oh Booooooooooooooooooooooyyyyyyys!!!!!!!!!

Guessssssssss what IIIIIIIIII foooooooooooooooound......

I know who I want if Patrick Peterson isn't there for us... and his name ain't Prince Amukumara... not Robert Quinn.... not Cameron Jordan... not Mark Ingram... and NOT Tyron Smith...

He is now the #2 guy on my Dallas Cowboys big board and he is a wUUUnderful player. I didn't see this earlier, because I kept imagining him as strictly an OLB, but my eyes have been opened! I think he could move to ILB in Rob's scheme or at worse, replace Spencer.


...and as I always do... Here is my overboard love fest post for the guy who has captured my heart.






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#10 DE/OLB, Von Miller (6’3 243 lbs.) – Texas A&M Aggies


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Von Miller is EVERYTHING Jerry looks for in a player. Plays one of those "flashy" positions that he feels comfortable using a 1st rounder on. Has the unworldly gaudy stats to back up what they see of him on film. Tremendous character. Team Captain, who inspires on & off the field. 2010 Butkus Award Winner who tallied enough votes to more than double the 2nd place runner up. An person who has strong core values. Went back for his senior season even though he could've been a 1st rounder. Finished up his degree in university studies with a concentration in life sciences. Tremendous versatility. Just like Bobby Carpenter who played DE/OLB in college only to move to ILB, I could see Miller being our future at ILB. He has that capacity but only in a way Carp could ever dream of having. However, I think Rob Ryan could use him in various ways, inside or outside to disguise the blitz. He has true sideline to sideline range and also displays the ability to drop back in coverage. Excellent wrap up tackler who doesn't let guys out of his grasp, but also can lay the lumber.


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Came across this scouting report as I was looking for pictures, but it's explains some of the reasons why I love him so much.

http://proprospects.wordpress.com/2011/01/02/von-miller-scouting-report/

Instincts/Recognition: Very instinctual athlete. Has the ability to recognize the run and come crashing down the line of scrimmage, or recognize the pass and make a B-line for the quarterback. Solid awareness overall. Recognizes when he has no chance to get to the quarterback and gets his hands up to deflect passes. Sniffs out screens on a regular basis, but will need to improve his diagnosing of routes when playing zone coverage. Doesn’t always process routes quick enough, which results in completed passes.

Strength/Toughness: Miller is light in the pants to say the least. Is known more for his speed than his strength. Coming in at only 238 pounds, means Miller has little to no shot at playing defensive end in the NFL. He will more than likely play the jack outside linebacker position in a 3-4 defense. Is not a physical tackler. Lacks an initial pop. Is more of a wrap up and pull down tackler. Does a good job of translating his speed into power on bull rushes and inside moves. Very tough individual. Played more than half of the 2010 season with an injured ankle, but fought through it.

Range vs. Run: Has sideline to sideline speed. Has been reported to run a 4.5 forty. Can track down ball carriers from the back side consistently. Shows the ability to extend his arms and shed blockers, but is only average at holding the point of attack. Takes poor angles at times. Sometimes takes too wide of an angle off the edge, leaving a gap between he and the defense tackle/defense end. Needs to do a better job with sealing the edge. Moves through traffic well. His speed allows him to make a ton of plays in the backfield.

Pass Rush: Even though its cliche to say, Von Miller is explosive. Gifted athlete who can bend the corner, flatten out, and cause havoc for opposing quarterbacks. Closing speed is outstanding. Favorite move is the outside speed rush. Uses the outside speed rush to set up a nice inside move. He does have a spin move and bull rush, but those need further development in order to be consistently effective. Relies on his speed to often and gets pushed behind the quarterback a lot. Translates his speed into power when attempting the bull rush, but would be more effective if he were stronger. Nonetheless, his production is off the charts. In the last two years, Miller has produced 26 sacks, 7 forced fumbles, 36 tackles for loss, and 11 pass breakups. Insane!

3rd Down Capabilities: 3rd down is where Miller holds value. Has the pass rushing skills to consistently pressure quarterbacks at the next level and is athletic enough to hold his own in zones coverage. Wasn’t asked to cover all too often in college, but there’s no doubt that with the right tutelage, he can become adequate in this department.

Intangibles: Team Captain. Clean off the field. Two time 1st team AP All-American selection. 2010 Butkus award winner.


BOO YA, "BROCHACHOS (my new favorite word)"!!! ;) Expect to hear his name ad nauseum from here on out from me. hahahahaha.

Besides... we're getting Aso in FA anyways.

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01-19-2011, 07:17 PM
Brochacho... I'll take more plus rep for that btw.

Nice write ups. Miller at #9, idk, but I wouldn't mind having him either.

D-Unit
01-19-2011, 08:13 PM
I think I forgot to mention that he's been playing in the 3-4 at Texas A&M as their Jack LB. So yeah... it'd be like grad school for him in the NFL as far as his education of the 3-4 goes. Where as other rookies would be starting from scratch.

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01-19-2011, 08:44 PM
Without further adieu:

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Jeremy Kerley, WR, Texas Christian University.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GQqDEMjBLo

This team needs a slot WR. Roy Williams does not fit here. I don't dislike him, and I think he can be a solid WR in the right situation, but it is not here. Miles is 26, and Dez just turned 22. They are tremendous, young, go-to wide receivers who need to play on the outside, and Roy Williams is just getting in the way.

Now, we need a true slot man. A wes welker, devone bess type. One who can run the short, quick routes, and dominate a team's nickel DB's while Dez, Miles, and Witten are getting all the attention.

Also profiles as a terrific return man, which we need because our kick returners aren't cutting it, and we don't want to get Dez hurt on either punt or kick return.

Scouting report from another site:

He can pass, he can run, he can catch, but perhaps most importantly Jeremy Kerley can return kicks. The former high school quarterback has done a little bit of everything during his collegiate career at TCU. From day one Kerley was an explosive athlete and everybody at TCU knew it.

Kerley has been the conference's first-team return specialist for two consecutive years and was also a second-team honoree as a wide receiver during his senior season. Kerley does not have blazing sub 4.0 speed, but he is extremely quick, runs great routes and has sure hands. His versatility is a plus, but Kerley deserves to be drafted in the fifth or sixth round on his return abilities alone. NFL scouts may boost him up their boards even further with a good showing at the Senior Bowl.

He has been on my man-crush wish-list since watching TCU obliterate Utah, and he has produced every time I've seen the horned frogs play. He has great hands, he's super quick, and he'll work perfectly in the slot.

As a former high school QB, he could also run the wildcat in a brad smith roll for us, with or without choice on the roster, because choice can't throw.

http://www.statesman.com/multimedia/dynamic/00680/Wyoming-TCU-Footbal_680602c.jpg

That is my prospect that I wish to hype up.

We need a true slot, make it happen Jerry!

TheFinisher
01-21-2011, 10:01 AM
J.J. Watt - DE - 6’6 292 lbs. – Wisconsin Badgers


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2009 Stats:
44 Tackles
15.5 TFLs
4.5 Sacks
2 Fumbles Recovered
5 Passes Defended

2010 Stats:
62 Tackles
21 TFLs
7 Sacks
3 Forced Fumbles
2 Fumbles Recovered
1 INT
9 Passes Defended

Awards and Honors:
Lott IMPACT Trophy
AP 2nd Team All American
1st Team All Big Ten
Team MVP
Finalist for Hendricks and Bednarik Award
Academic All Big Ten



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If you're anything like me, the final minutes of the first Eagles game made you sick to your stomach. When Philly was gauging us for huge chunks of yards on that drive it became pretty obvious that our defensive line had become soft. In a draft that is deep with 3-4 Ends, there is one man who rises above all... and that man is J.J. Watt. Watt put up an impressive stat line over the last 2 seasons (106 Tackles, 36.5 TFLs, 11.5 Sacks), and at times dominated games this year. When you see Watt play the first thing that jumps out at you is his frame, Watt is every bit of 6'6 and has the ability to put on another 15 pounds if needed. The other thing about Watt that I love is his relentless motor, he's a former Walk-On who plays with the same kind of wreckless abandon that you see from guys like Jared Allen and Clay Matthews, always trying to make plays. Watt is known by his teammates as an emotional leader on and off the field, he is the type of guy who wants to come in and study film on his off days.

He has that blue-collar mentality where he wants to come in everyday and become a better football player. His stock has risen to the point where I'd be surprised if he doesn't get taken in the top 20. There are still some questions about his speed and athleticism but if he preforms well at the combine (which is what I'm expecting) it won't be crazy to think he could crack the top 10. He may not run a great 40, I'd suspect 4.85-4.9 range, but he is quick in tight spaces and has a nice repertoire of pass rush moves both as an edge rusher or an inside rusher. It is evident that our pass rush has suffered significantly since we let Chris Canty walk 3 years ago, our current Ends provide no pass rush or playmaking ability. Our Front 7 has the ability to become dominant, let's add another high energy guy to the mix who can creat havoc.



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JJ Watt Wins 2010 Lott IMPACT Trophy
Posted by Rory on Dec 12, 2010 under J.J. Watt
NEWPORT BEACH, Ca. – J.J. Watt of Wisconsin was named the 2010 winner of the Lott IMPACT Trophy at the annual awards banquet here Sunday night.

The 6-6, 292-pound Watt, a defensive end on the 11-1 Rose-Bowl bound Badgers, was presented with the trophy by Ronnie Lott. He is the first Wisconsin player to win the award. During the 2010 season, Watt led the Badgers with 21 tackles for losses, 10 quarterback hurries and seven sacks. He also forced three fumbles, recovered two, had an interception and blocked three kicks.

The other finalists for the award were Sam Acho of Texas, Casey Matthews of Oregon and Patrick Peterson of LSU.

The Lott Trophy is the only college football award where character counts. The student-athlete must be making an IMPACT on the field as well as off the field in such areas as academics, community and leadership. IMPACT is an acronym for Integrity, Maturity, Performance, Academics, Community and Tenacity.

Wisconsin will receive $25,000 for its general scholarship fund in recognition of Watt’s achievement. Each of the runnersups schools received $5,000.

In addition to his prodigious skills on the field, Watt is an honor student at Wisconsin, twice being named an Academic All-Big Ten performer, and has formed his own charity, the Justin J. Watt Foundation to benefit local elementary and middle schools that lack funding (His foundation is modeled after the one started by former Lott Trophy finalist Myron Rolle).

Three times this season, Watt was selected the Lott IMPACT Player of the Week. Watt follows in the footsteps of former Wisconsin All-American Jim Leonhard, a 2004 Lott finalist, who, like Watt, was a walk-on. Watt began his career at Central Michigan, worked at a Pizza Hut for six months while trying to earn a scholarship at Wisconsin and eventually won a starting spot on the defensive line.

Named after Hall of Famer Ronnie Lott, the Lott is awarded to college football’s Defensive IMPACT Player of the Year. Now in its seventh year, the Lott is the first college football award to equally recognize athletic performance and the personal character attributes of the player.

Sponsored by The Pacific Club IMPACT Foundation in Newport Beach, the award is given to the player who exhibits the same characteristics Lott embodied during his distinguished career: Integrity, Maturity, Performance, Academics, Community and Tenacity.

Past winners of The Lott IMPACT Trophy:

2004 – David Pollack, Georgia
2005 – DeMeco Ryans, Alabama
2006 – Dante Hughes, California
2007 – Glenn Dorsey, LSU
2008 – James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
2009 – Jerry Hughes, TCU
2010 – J.J. Watt, Wisconsin



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(Scouting Report from http://proprospects.wordpress.com/2011/01/02/jj-watt-scouting-report/)

Pass Rush Skills: Provides a headache for offensive tackles off the edge when it comes to power. Possesses four excellent pass rush moves (rip, swim, hook, bull rush) and has the ability to counter against tackles when they decide to take away a certain move. Has decent speed, but not elite. A move to defensive end in the 3-4 is all but certain to happen once he reaches the NFL. Shows an initial burst once the ball is snapped. If pushed behind the quarterback, he continues in pursuit until the play is over. Gains good leverage on his bull rush. Shows the ability to change directions quickly when faking a outside move. Not real flexible in the hips. Wont consistently bend the corner and flatten out. Gets his hands on a lot of balls when he does not reach the quarterback.

Versus the run: Lower body strength makes him very stout against the run. Has long arms and uses them often. Instead of allowing lineman to get into his body, he extends his arms, and reads the play. Not pushed off the point of attack very often. His strength allows him to engage blockers and shed them immediately. Does get fooled occasionally on misdirection and option read plays. Plays with violent hands and uses them frequently. Does a good job of sealing the edge. Has the motor to chase down plays from behind.

Versatility: Slightly versatile. Can play the power defensive end in the 4-3, 3 technique defensive tackle on passing downs, and defensive end in the 3-4. Has almost no experience dropping in to coverage.

Instincts/Motor: Watt’s number one attribute is his motor. He is relentless and goes until the whistle is blown. Gets a couple sacks off of hustle alone. By the forth quarterback, lineman are worn out from his nonstop efforts. Instincts are good and still improving. Is able to recognize screens and quarterback rollouts. Still has some work to do on reading misdirection plays.

Intangibles: Blue collar worker. Leads by example on the field, in the gym, and off the field. Well respected by coaches and teammates. Won the 2010 Lott Impact trophy.

thule
01-21-2011, 10:46 AM
Great write up on Watt. Definitely a guy I've been watching this year and agree with everything you wrote.

Just to touch on his biggest knock. Anyone who watched his final game saw how he was getting attacked. So when you say he should test well...I'm not sure i'm buying it. TCU actually attacked him by not blocking him as weird as that sounds. They would set him free and use the extra man to block up field...Watt didn't have the athletic ability to make the impact plays he had all season because they chose to block the 2nd level with the OT/TE. I think that is the big knock on him....top 10 is highly unlikely imo just for the simple fact that freaks go in that range and he isn't in that class. I'm a huge Watt fan...but he isn't a top tier athlete for NFL standards. That said he should be a lock as late first/early second round pick.

D-Unit
01-21-2011, 12:15 PM
Yes, Yes! GREAT write up on Watt! THAT'S what this thread is supposed to be about!

If he's our pick, I'll be happy. I just hope he's not the next Chris Long.

UTPATS
01-23-2011, 04:55 PM
To go with another Wisconsin guy, I like Gabe Carimi for our long-term right tackle in the second round!

Height: 6-7 | Weight: 315

2010 Outland Award Winner
2010 All American
4-year All Big Ten
Took over left tackle once Joe Thomas left.

http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv48/hijumper34/carimi1.jpg

Strengths:
• Prototypical size with long arms and large hands
• Solid in pass pro with nimble feet to slide / mirror
• Fairly stout at point and gets good push in run game
• Decent strength and delivers a violent initial punch
• Polished technician with great hand use and footwork
• Intelligent with excellent instincts and awareness
• Very tough and willingly plays through pain / injuries
• Mature, hard working and is respected by teammates
• A ton of experience against top-notch competition

Weaknesses:
• Merely average athleticism, agility and balance
• Issues with speed and struggles to protect edge
• Not a knee bender, plays tall and leverage suffers
• Will too often gets caught reaching and leaning
• Falls off of blocks and does not sustain very well
• Has some trouble in space and at the second level
• Is not a finisher and may lack a killer instinct
• A history of injuries and durability is a concern

Notes:
Last name is pronounced "kuh-REE-mee" --- A four-year starter and team captain for the Badgers --- Named 1st Team All-Big Ten in 2009 and 2010 --- 1st Team All-American in 2010 --- Won the 2010 Outland Trophy as the nation's top interior lineman --- The Big Ten Offensive Lineman of the Year in 2010 --- A civil and environmental engineering major who was named Academic All-Big Ten four straight years --- Very committed to Jewish faith and fasts during Yom Kippur --- Missed three games with a right knee injury in 2008 --- Missed half of fall camp in 2009 with a right knee injury --- Suffered left shoulder (AC joint) injury in 2009 --- Actually replaced Joe Thomas, the #3 overall pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, at left tackle in Madison --- Overrated blocker with all the tools to be a starter at the next level but is not the elite blindside protector and early first rounder that some have made him out to be.

(Draft Countdown review)

Carimi vs. Heyward (OSU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjPsgcj2ufI

Carimi vs. Clayborn (Iowa)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zin3JvllXm0

Solid run blocker and can anchor down versus bull-rushers. Does struggle some against speed, but with being at right tackle he will usually face the lesser of the two speed rushing defensive ends.

TheFinisher
01-30-2011, 06:30 PM
I am weeks ahead of this semesters work and have had what seems like infinite freetime this weekend so I decided to dig around a little bit for some interior OLine prospects. I realized that there is one guy who I have been totally overlooking (mostly because I thought he would be out of reach) who could in fact be a prized selection for our second rounder. Ladies and Gents, I present to you...

Mike Pouncey-Offensive Guard-Florida-6'4 310

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1008/cfb.preview.all-sec.team/images/mike-pouncey.jpg

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Pass blocking: Provides a quick initial punch before easing out of his stance. Good balance and lateral agility to mirror the defender. Strong, active hands and long arms allow him to keep his opponent controlled. Can get a little high with his pad level, but shows impressive flexibility and core strength in being able to anchor against a quality bull rush. Struggled early in the year snapping the ball with accuracy out of the shotgun and getting his hands up quickly in pass protection. Has the agility to move back outside to guard.

Run blocking: Quick off the snap. Latches on, shows very good upper-body strength and lateral agility and can turn the defender away from the ballcarrier. Plays with good pad level and shows some nastiness in his game. Looks to drive his assignment downfield or into the turf.

Pulling/trapping: Good initial quickness out of his stance when pulling. Keeps a tight line around linemates, showing good balance and foot speed to get around the edge. Has light feet for a big man and can locate and get to his target in the open field. Effort isn't always consistent sustaining blocks at the second level. Effective trap blocker. Good initial quickness to turn and seal off the defender.

Initial Quickness: Efficient and athletic out of his stance, quickly gaining the advantage over his opponent. Typically gets in the first punch in pass protection.

Downfield: Has the balance and sure feet to be effective as a downfield blocker, but is a bit inconsistent in his effort. Flashes some nastiness, showing a willingness to make the emphatic block to try and intimidate his opponent.

Intangibles: Nearly identical twin brother Maurkice was Florida's starting center each of the past three seasons and was selected No. 18 overall pick of the 2010 NFL Draft by the Pittsburgh Steelers. Prior to Maurkice leaving Florida early for the NFL, the twins made most of their decisions together. Maurkice wasn't willing to sign with Florida until they offered Mike a scholarship, for example. The twins selected Florida over Florida State, Clemson, Miami (Fla.) and Michigan.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college_uf/files/2010/12/os-florida-outback-mike-pouncey.jpg

I think Pouncey could come in and start at either Guard spot. He flew a bit under the radar this year due to his switch to Center and his struggles with shotgun snaps, but as a Guard prospect he is probably my favorite in this class. In his pass protection he is an extremely agile athlete for his size and should have no problem in the NFL handling interior rushers. He gets after it in the running game by getting to the second level with ease and showing the ability to get good movement in his drive blocks. He takes pride in finishing his blocks. His versatilty in college tells me that he is a student of the game and has a good head on his shoulders. I'd love to nab this Pouncey twin and know he would add much need attitude to our offensive line.

TheFinisher
01-14-2013, 03:12 PM
This thread needs a revival....

Introducing.... from the University of Georgia


#9 Alec Ogletree



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“You describe him in one word, which is ‘beast,'" - Jarvis Jones.


2012 Stats:

98 Tackles
8.5 TFLs
3 Sacks
6 PBU
1 INT
2 FF
1 TD

2nd Team All-SEC




For your viewing pleasure:

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Few linebackers possess the natural athleticism and range of Ogletree. Once a highly touted Safety recruit, Ogletree spent his freshman season seeing time in the secondary starting 5 games and earning the team's 2010 Newcomer of the year award. Poised to be the next great Bulldog safety, Coordinator Todd Grantham had other things in mind. Realizing Ogletree's freakish combination of size and speed, Grantham suggested he move to Inside Linebacker. Ogletree blossomed, and is now garnering momentum to become a 1st Round pick come April.

Over the course of the season I had admired Ogletree from afar, but being that we ran a 3-4 defense with 2 mainstays in Lee and Carter, I never gave much thought to him being a Cowboy... that is, until Monte Kiffin arrived.

Ogletree is the prototype Mike for Kiffin's Tampa scheme, maybe the best one to come along since Brian Urlacher back in 2002. Tree's range for the position is second to none, and a LB core of Lee, Tree and Carter patrolling the middle of our defense makes it a no fly zone... talk about speed and playmaking ability. I have no doubt Alec will grab Kiffin's eye throughout the draft process and I'd welcome him gladly come 2013.



Fast Risers: Alec Ogletree, Georgia Linebacker
Oct 12th, 2012 at 8:00 am by Greg Maddox

Jarvis Jones is the big, powerful v8 that drives the Georgia Defense, but Alec Ogletree is the turbocharger that pushes that defense to the next level.
Ogletree is a former highly-touted safety who has had significant playing time ever since his freshman year. After his first season he appeared to be outgrowing his defensive back-body and the coaches asked him to switch to linebacker. Unfortunately he suffered a foot injury and hasn’t gotten onto the field much until this year.
His physical attributes are quite impressive. At 6’3″ 235 pounds he has ideal linebacker size combined with above-average athleticism stemming from his background as a safety. He was suspended once as a freshman and then missed all but one quarter of last season with a foot injury.
Ogletree’s main opponent for the top inside linebacker spot is Notre Dame’s Manti Te’o. Te’o is bigger, stronger, but less mobile than Ogletree. Te’o could play in the middle of either a 4-3 or 3-4 defense, though he would be best as a 3-4 Mike-backer. Ogletree does not have the strength or frame to take on blockers in a 3-4 would be much better-suited to roam in a 4-3.
There is a good chance Ogletree will return to Georgia because he does have one year of eligibility left and this is his first season of consistent playing time. He is still very raw and needs to improve on his instincts at the linebacker position. His first step tends to be backwards rather than aggressively towards the line of scrimmage. He is good in coverage, but at this point it is probably due to his excellent athleticism and less to do with actual coverage ability.
Ogletree is definitely a player to keep an eye on. His athleticism will jump off the page at the linebacker position, but his raw talents may be better served with another year of polish.
Te’o is still my top inside linebacker due to his versatility and aggressiveness at the line of scrimmage, but Ogletree is an interesting name to keep an eye on.

http://withthefirstpick.com/2012/10/12/fast-risers-alec-ogletree-georgia-linebacker/

D-Unit
01-14-2013, 03:44 PM
That's AWESOME. I love this thread!

TheFinisher
01-14-2013, 04:02 PM
That's AWESOME. I love this thread!

Me too. Lots of good pros in this thread too, good track record for the DC posters lol.

UTPATS
01-15-2013, 01:03 PM
Great post on 'Tree... Those three linebackers would be scary!

Does 'Tree have any injury history? The only "real" knocks on Lee and Carter...

TheFinisher
01-15-2013, 01:55 PM
Great post on 'Tree... Those three linebackers would be scary!

Does 'Tree have any injury history? The only "real" knocks on Lee and Carter...

Only thing I found was he broke his foot in the season opener of 2011 and missed 7 games, but that's not typcially an injury that stays with you and the fact it hasn't given him issues since is a good sign.

TheFinisher
04-09-2014, 06:14 AM
These thread needs to be used more... post coming soon.

TheFinisher
04-09-2014, 06:54 AM
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION


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Storm Johnson | Running Back | Central Florida
6'0" 209LBS 4.50

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Written by Dan Heins

Intro: Blake Bortles is the player that most are thinking of when you mention UCF prospects this off-season. I believe that you would be wrong to assume that Blake is even the top prospect coming out of Central Florida, let alone a top 3 QB prospect (a conversation for a different day). One of the benefits of having multiple skill position players coming out of the same school is that it really gives you twice as much film to watch and a slightly different perspective. One of the reasons I have become so attached to Storm Johnson is that when I watch tape of Blake Bortles, STORM is the the one that catches my eye. (UCF VS Louisville)

Size: Storm has interesting size for the RB position. At the combine he measured in at 6′ 210lbs, about 7-8 lbs less than his playing weight last year. Storm has the ideal frame to play at around 220lbs without losing any of his speed or lateral ability. He is an inch or two bigger than I prefer in my “ideal” RB builds, but when you watch him on tape he doesn’t look that tall. Storm does a very good job of playing low. He gets his pads down. I like Storm more at 217lbs than I do at 210lbs and expect that that weight loss was intentional to perform better in the combine drills. I would classify Storm as an “in-betweener” in terms of ideal RB size. He is definitely bigger (and plays bigger yet) than your typical 5’9″ 205-210lb backs but he’s not big enough to be considered a “power back” like Carlos Hyde at 235 plus. Storm has a sneaky amount of power but we will need to see what happens when he hits an NFL linebacker over and over.

Speed: Storm has very impressive straight line speed for a bigger back. He registered an official 4.60 forty at the combine but put down two unofficial 4.50′s and this speed is reflective of what you see on tape. Storm has the lateral quickness to attack the edges and really has light feet. He has a jump step that is very similar to Tre Mason in that it leaves defenders in a “Storm cloud” looking for shelter. He will need to focus on north and south running at the next level and I could see his confidence in his ability to break runs outside resulting in some negative plays.

Blocking: Blocking is where Storm’s 6′ frame really comes into play. He is big and long enough to be a very effective blocker at any level. Most importantly, he is able and willing. Storm will need to learn how to pick up the blitz in his new offense just like every other RB in this class. That being said, there is nothing on tape to indicate he will struggle in this area. His size will likely make him more effective as he won’t have to rely on a chop block every time when a guy like Clay Matthews is coming off the edge or on a stunt.

Receiving: Exceptional receiver. He is just fun to watch. He has exceptionally soft hands for a big back and his transition to WR is both smooth and impressive. His lateral speed makes him very effective on routes to the flat. However, he does have a very bad habit of being extremely right-hand dominant. He will have to work on this at the next level or teams that focus on take-aways (Chicago) will pick up on it early and often. Outside plays to the left will leave him susceptible for fumbles and strips. Storm did have a few issues with this and was benched in the first half of their game against South Florida last year.

Instinct: Storm has a very good feel for the game and his position. He knows how to use his size and his deceptive speed to his advantage. He has good vision and a natural smoothness to his running. He will need to adjust his “want” to bounce runs to the outside at the next level and will need to modify what he considers to be an “opening” to the outside. Those openings close a lot faster in the NFL and Storm isn’t SO fast that he can just disregard that and rely on his natural ability. His instincts as a pass catcher are impressive and fun to watch. Overall, his feel for the game is noticeable on tape. This is one of the most important things I look for when assessing RBs.

Summary: There is a Storm coming to the NFL. Lightning quickness and deceptive power that will leave defenders thunderstruck. But puns aside, there is a calm in this Storm that shows a natural understanding of the position and a skill set that can attack you on multiple fronts. Okay, puns aside for real this time. He’s a great prospect. Landing spot will determine everything for this group of RB prospects, but I fully expect the team that takes this young man to do so with the intention of using him early and often. Storm will get his chance early as he has the blocking and receiving skills to fill a 3rd down role. He also has the size and power to come in and take on 1st and 2nd down work as well.

http://dynastyfootballwarehouse.com/a-storm-is-coming-storm-johnson-rookie-rb/


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D-Unit
04-09-2014, 07:07 PM
That was a fun read Finisher! I'll definitely contribute to this. Have a few sleepers in mind!

So yeah... this Storm guy would get me pretty amped up if we added him. Can't watch the youtube clips at work, but I'll check 'em out later when I get home

TheFinisher
04-26-2014, 10:08 AM
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION

Cody Latimer | WR | Indiana

6'2" | 215lbs | 4.4 40 Yard Dash

2013 STATISTICS:
72 Receptions | 1096 Yards | 15.2 YPC | 9 Touchdowns

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In every pre-draft process there are a few players whose stocks rise dramatically at the last minute. This year it’s Cody Latimer. Interest in the Indiana receiver has gained a lot of traction in recent days, with predictions of him being a third-day prospect giving way to a new second-round projection.

Not that anything’s changed with his overall circumstances in that time. Unable to do anything more than the bench press at the scouting combine due to a foot injury, Latimer had to wait until his pro day in late March to run his all-important 40-yard dash and get the rest of his drills in for the NFL to see. And when he ran a 4.44-40 at 6-3 and 215 pounds, everybody perked up. Before that, Latimer could only sit on his college numbers — 135 catches for 2,042 yards and 17 touchdowns in three seasons — for a program that often had less than spectacular talent at the quarterback position. In 2013, he caught 72 passes for 1,096 yards and nine touchdowns, establishing himself as one of the sleepers at his position.

As to the hype surrounding his name, Latimer couldn’t have been less concerned about it when I spoke with him recently about the whole exercise.

“I try to keep it away from me, you know? It’s a lot of hype. So, I try to stay in my lane and stay focused. I have these visits, and I’m just trying to be the best I can be. My agent does a good job and keeps me updated, but I try not to talk about that too much.”

Instead, Latimer’s been busy training and getting ready for a draft that could see his name called sooner than many once imagined. When we spoke, he had either met or was getting ready to meet with 10 teams — “Buffalo, Philly, Oakland, Seattle, San Diego, Detroit, Jacksonville, Washington, Carolina, Baltimore,” — and keeping his head about him as things started to accelerate.

“It’s pretty much the same thing,” he said when asked what the common questions from teams tended to be. “They ask me what I think my best traits are, and what I think I need to work on, what kind of receiver would I classify myself as. They all want to know what your take is on yourself.”

As a result, it was easy for Latimer to give me a scouting report on himself — both positives and negatives.

“I use my hands well,” he said. “Being physical, blocking, playing special teams — that helps a lot. High-pointing the ball, and just being a playmaker. That’s what being a receiver is all about.”

He was just as expressive when discussing the aspects of his game that still need work.

“Just like every receiver does — my route-running. Nobody runs perfect routes. Getting open in windows at the next level; you’ve got to figure out different ways to get open. It’s a different ballgame.”

In the end, Latimer sees himself — quite rightly — as one of the better big receivers in this draft class. Teams are always looking for players who can win battles in short spaces (especially in the end zone), and Latimer has this ability.

“Brandon Marshall, Calvin Johnson. Keenan Allen, who came into the NFL last year and was making plays,” he said, when asked which current NFL receivers he looks to mirror. “Those big, physical receivers, as I just mentioned.”

The Keenan Allen comparison, in my opinion, is quite apt. Like Allen, Latimer doesn’t explode off the tape with demon speed — instead, he gets open and makes plays with toughness, route awareness and field intelligence. I believe that he will be an ideal number-two receiver in just about any NFL system. Allen was selected in the third round of the 2013 draft by the Chargers, and he responded with a fabulous rookie campaign — 71 catches for 1,046 yards and eight touchdowns. Latimer, under the right circumstances, could do the same.

“It’s just practice,” he says about what defines his game. “Over the years — these were things that, when I first came to college I didn’t know how to do. What I needed to do to get open. So I started doing drills with my coaches, and individual drills on my own — head movement, sticking my routes better. In small spaces, you have a [defender] around you, you’ve got to make a play. Just trying to catch the ball with my body, so the defenders don’t have time to get in there [and disrupt the play]. It’s just things you work on daily, when you’re out on that field.

“Nobody’s perfect, so you always have something to work on. The little things.”

And those little things are paying off — at just the right time.

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Indiana WR Cody Latimer's stock skyrocketing as draft grows near

When playing in the Big Ten Conference, posting 72 catches for 1,096 yards and nine touchdowns across 12 games will generally get you quite a bit of attention from NFL scouts and media draftniks. For Indiana University's Cody Latimer, however, all those numbers really did was get him an invite to the NFL Combine, which he was largely a spectator for due to a foot injury (he could only participate in the bench press).

That foot injury caused him to fly largely under the radar through most of the pre-draft process, but he shot himself up draft boards at his school's pro day in late March. Almost fully recovered from his foot injury, Latimer took part in the forty-yard dash and blazed his way to 4.39 and 4.43 times. Listed at 6-foot-3 and 215 pounds, NFL scouts immediately took notice to this unique combination of size and speed.

Though his pro day was less than a month ago, Latimer's impressive skill set has transformed him from a borderline day two/three prospect into a potential first-round selection. Less than a week ago, ESPN's Mel Kiper slotted Latimer to the New Orleans Saints at No. 27 overall. On Wednesday, ESPN's Todd McShay called Latimer "the most underrated player in the draft."
Sure, McShay was a little late to the party - his colleague had already ticketed Latimer as a first-round pick - but there is certainly a buzz surrounding this ultra-talented youngster. "He did not drop a pass in five games I studied," McShay said. Unlike past size/speed freaks like Darrius Heyward-Bey, Latimer actually has the requisite football ability to make an impact at the next level. His background as a high school basketball standout shows on the gridiron, as he uses body position and high-pointing ability to snatch balls away from defenders. As I alluded to with McShay's quote, Latimer has great, soft hands (very much unlike Heyward-Bey), and he also uses his hands well to beat the press at the line of scrimmage.
The NFL loves both size and speed, and Latimer has both. His speed may even be underrated at the moment, as he ran his 4.39 forty while "limited" by that foot injury. It looked for a while as if someone could get the steal of the draft in perhaps the third round by landing Latimer, but the buzz picked up just a few weeks too soon - Latimer is a first-round talent, and even if he is not selected on the draft's first day, he won't last long in the second round.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/16942337-indiana-wr-cody-latimers-stock-skyrocketing-as-draft-grows-near

D-Unit
04-26-2014, 12:22 PM
I don't like how he's skyrocketing but a nice mention and GREAT JOB on the Hype post!!! You've definitely turned up his name on the heat meter!