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G08
03-12-2009, 10:10 PM
Strengths Is a huge vertical threat. Has excellent deep speed. Will get over the top of defenders in man-coverage and shows the ability to separate and track down the ball in the air. Consistency catching the football has improved. Showed much better concentration and focus. Has big, soft hands. Adjusts to the poorly thrown ball very well. Can catch over his head and makes a lot of acrobatic catches in the vertical passing game. Shows the ability to pluck on the run and does a good job of "snatching" the ball before it gets into his pads. Is more explosive as a vertical route runner than he is after the catch, but he is still a homerun threat with the ball in his hands. He is extremely fast and can out-run DB's when he gets into a foot-race. He shows good vision and does a nice job of cutting back against the grain. If he gets a crease he's gone thanks to his excellent second-gear in the open field. He actually works pretty hard as a blocker and gives a good effort. Has excellent experience coming from a run-first offensive scheme. Gets good positioning, has long arms to lock-on and shows good leverage. Only concern is his lack of ideal bulk and strength. He doesn't have a great base and he doesn't show a lot of pop at the POA. Occasionally has trouble sustaining.

Weaknesses Not a finished product yet and will need some time to develop. Need to refine his intermediate route running skills. He shows the burst, speed, athletic ability and body control to develop into a fine route runner but he needs to be more consistent and crisp. He has a tendency to round routes off. Will get lazy at times and doesn't always work as hard as he should as a backside receiver. Needs to learn more subtle moves vs. man-coverage and his overall recognition skills are just decent versus zone-coverage. Had some problems with drops early in his career but was automatic as a junior. If he remains focused he can be very reliable catching the ball but there is some concern that he could revert to inconsistent ways in the NFL. Is not overly elusive and won't "shake" defenders in space. Got away with natural speed and burst at the collegiate level but will need to become more proficient with moves in the NFL. He has adequate-to-good size and great speed to drive DB's off the LOS. His problem, however, is that he lacks great strength. He has some trouble vs. bigger, more physical DB's that get into a shoving match with him. He needs to improve his array of moves and do a better job of using his arms to "swim" and "club" through press coverage.
_______ is not a finished product. He still needs to improve as an intermediate route runner and he must also improve his overall bulk and strength in order to hold up in the NFL. However, he has rare athletic ability, adequate-to-good height, excellent speed and loads of playmaking potential. He's an absolute threat as a vertical route runner and he shows the upside to develop into a premier No. 1 wide receiver in the NFL. _____ should be the third WR taken.


Any guesses?

Shane P. Hallam
03-12-2009, 10:13 PM
Heyward-Bey, though I honestly didn't read it thoroughly.

Don Vito
03-12-2009, 10:17 PM
Sounds like DHB to me too.

jj45
03-12-2009, 10:24 PM
Im gonna say dhb

lionsfan81
03-12-2009, 11:05 PM
this year or a previous year?

Diehard
03-12-2009, 11:13 PM
Troy Williamson?

Crickett
03-12-2009, 11:22 PM
Yeah, it's Troy Williamson's ESPN draft profile.

The "has big soft hands" part is hilarious. Maybe he uses purell.

thetedginnshow
03-12-2009, 11:50 PM
That's ridiculous. Besides the lack of ideal bulk and strength, that's almost spot-on for DHB.

Brent
03-12-2009, 11:55 PM
Kenny Britt

Crickett
03-12-2009, 11:56 PM
That's ridiculous. Besides the lack of ideal bulk and strength, that's almost spot-on for DHB.

So far as I can tell, that was the point of this thread. To show the similarities between Troy Williamson's draft profile and DHB's.

Flyboy
03-13-2009, 12:07 AM
The "has big soft hands" part is hilarious. Maybe he uses purell.

LOL, that was a good one.

thetedginnshow
03-13-2009, 12:11 AM
So far as I can tell, that was the point of this thread. To show the similarities between Troy Williamson's draft profile and DHB's.

I think that was obvious, but it's pretty interesting to see just how similar the two are.

LonghornsLegend
03-13-2009, 12:12 AM
LOL, that was a good one.

Not funnier then this part:


Adjusts to the poorly thrown ball very well.


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FAIL.

Pitt
03-13-2009, 12:26 AM
Kenny Britt

Everybody already went home bro.

G08
03-13-2009, 07:47 AM
It was Troy Williamson, good call!

So far as I can tell, that was the point of this thread. To show the similarities between Troy Williamson's draft profile and DHB's.

Nail, head. I just wanted to show that some "experts" will rant and rave about a guys physical attributes, but once you see the questionable route-running, it should be a giant buyer-beware. And they're saying he had great hands? Puh-lease :lol:

Until I see otherwise, DHB is nothing but a Troy Williamson clone to me.

DiG
03-13-2009, 08:39 AM
Nice try but no.

Will get lazy at times and doesn't always work as hard as he should as a backside receiver.

DHB is one of the hardest working players on the MD team. Since day 1 Fridge has praised his work ethic more than anything else. Hes come a long way in a short time because he is not lazy.

Needs to learn more subtle moves vs. man-coverage and his overall recognition skills are just decent versus zone-coverage.

Not the case with DHB. DHB destroys man coverage. Watch him in the open field. He is so smooth and quick with his moves he makes defenders look silly often and all he needs is one step on you and you are beat.

Had some problems with drops early in his career but was automatic as a junior. If he remains focused he can be very reliable catching the ball but there is some concern that he could revert to inconsistent ways in the NFL.

DHB has NEVER had problems with his hands. Catching is one of DHBs best assets. If anyone knocks on DHBs hands then they have only ever read about him on the internet and never watched him play. He simply doesnt drop balls. If anything hes known for the acrobatic catch.

He has adequate-to-good size and great speed to drive DB's off the LOS. His problem, however, is that he lacks great strength. He has some trouble vs. bigger, more physical DB's that get into a shoving match with him.

Unlike Troy, DHB IS NOT SOFT. DHB is 10 lbs heavier than Troy and he knows how to be physical. He put up a solid 16 reps at the combine which is impressive considering his arm length. He is praised consistently for his dedication to blocking. He is much more of a physical presence on the field than Troy ever was.

The BIGGEST differences between these prospects are the most important. DHB has shown no signs of laziness at MD and has actually proven the opposite, DHB is a much better player catching the ball with his hands, and DHB is stronger and more physical, willing to get dirty and block as well.

LonghornsLegend
03-13-2009, 09:01 AM
It was Troy Williamson, good call!



Nail, head. I just wanted to show that some "experts" will rant and rave about a guys physical attributes, but once you see the questionable route-running, it should be a giant buyer-beware. And they're saying he had great hands? Puh-lease :lol:

Until I see otherwise, DHB is nothing but a Troy Williamson clone to me.


I do see your point, but you can't expect every fast, athletic freak at WR to bust just because Williamson did, there are actually WR's in the league like that...It should be a buyer beware most definately, but I wouldn't just say DHB will be a bust because he had the same attributes as Williamson.


If Troy Williamson could ever catch he would of probably lived up to his draft stock, his route running wasn't all that bad because he was constantly open, DHB has sure hands so unless he starts dropping passes left and right at the next level I think he'll be ok.

Larry121283
03-13-2009, 09:04 AM
Williamson has an issue with his eyes...that, more then anything has led to him dropping balls and being generally unsuccessful.

G08
03-13-2009, 09:19 AM
I do see your point, but you can't expect every fast, athletic freak at WR to bust just because Williamson did, there are actually WR's in the league like that...It should be a buyer beware most definately, but I wouldn't just say DHB will be a bust because he had the same attributes as Williamson.


If Troy Williamson could ever catch he would of probably lived up to his draft stock, his route running wasn't all that bad because he was constantly open, DHB has sure hands so unless he starts dropping passes left and right at the next level I think he'll be ok.


I can't say that I expect him to bust, but I value a WR that is a solid route runner over a WR that can run a sub 4.4 in a straight line.

G08
03-13-2009, 09:24 AM
Nice try but no.



DHB is one of the hardest working players on the MD team. Since day 1 Fridge has praised his work ethic more than anything else. Hes come a long way in a short time because he is not lazy.



Not the case with DHB. DHB destroys man coverage. Watch him in the open field. He is so smooth and quick with his moves he makes defenders look silly often and all he needs is one step on you and you are beat.



DHB has NEVER had problems with his hands. Catching is one of DHBs best assets. If anyone knocks on DHBs hands then they have only ever read about him on the internet and never watched him play. He simply doesnt drop balls. If anything hes known for the acrobatic catch.



Unlike Troy, DHB IS NOT SOFT. DHB is 10 lbs heavier than Troy and he knows how to be physical. He put up a solid 16 reps at the combine which is impressive considering his arm length. He is praised consistently for his dedication to blocking. He is much more of a physical presence on the field than Troy ever was.

The BIGGEST differences between these prospects are the most important. DHB has shown no signs of laziness at MD and has actually proven the opposite, DHB is a much better player catching the ball with his hands, and DHB is stronger and more physical, willing to get dirty and block as well.

Wow, looks like I ruffled some feathers. Settle down Sally, I was just saying I saw that analysis and I saw some things that reminded me of DHB. I'm not claiming to be an expert and know all that is DHB, I'm just saying as a Bears fan that may be having him on my roster, I'm a little weary of his route running and his OWN WORDS of not liking contact.

SeanTaylorRIP
03-13-2009, 09:28 AM
Well the difference is that DHB actually has those strengths, where as Troy Williamson doesn't.

eaglesalltheway
03-13-2009, 12:49 PM
Kenny Britt

No way, the thing that makes me think its either Williamson or DHB, and not Britt is the part where it says something along the lines of "not great after the catch". Britt is a great YAC WR.

eaglesalltheway
03-13-2009, 12:51 PM
It was Troy Williamson, good call!



Nail, head. I just wanted to show that some "experts" will rant and rave about a guys physical attributes, but once you see the questionable route-running, it should be a giant buyer-beware. And they're saying he had great hands? Puh-lease :lol:

Until I see otherwise, DHB is nothing but a Troy Williamson clone to me.

I never even really was a big fan of DHB. And that was before the whole comparison to Troy Williamson came about. Maybe I was doing it subconsciously in my head, but I'm just not a big fan of DHB, or Harvin for that matter.

hannah73
03-13-2009, 12:56 PM
Well the difference is that DHB actually has those strengths, where as Troy Williamson doesn't.

But at the time people thought he did. so maybe they're (and you) are just as wrong about DHB as they were about Williamson?

Food for though anyway.

Shere Khan
03-15-2009, 04:50 PM
Strengths Is a huge vertical threat. Has excellent deep speed. Will get over the top of defenders in man-coverage and shows the ability to separate and track down the ball in the air. Consistency catching the football has improved. Showed much better concentration and focus. Has big, soft hands. Adjusts to the poorly thrown ball very well. Can catch over his head and makes a lot of acrobatic catches in the vertical passing game. Shows the ability to pluck on the run and does a good job of "snatching" the ball before it gets into his pads. Is more explosive as a vertical route runner than he is after the catch, but he is still a homerun threat with the ball in his hands. He is extremely fast and can out-run DB's when he gets into a foot-race. He shows good vision and does a nice job of cutting back against the grain. If he gets a crease he's gone thanks to his excellent second-gear in the open field. He actually works pretty hard as a blocker and gives a good effort. Has excellent experience coming from a run-first offensive scheme. Gets good positioning, has long arms to lock-on and shows good leverage. Only concern is his lack of ideal bulk and strength. He doesn't have a great base and he doesn't show a lot of pop at the POA. Occasionally has trouble sustaining.

Weaknesses Not a finished product yet and will need some time to develop. Need to refine his intermediate route running skills. He shows the burst, speed, athletic ability and body control to develop into a fine route runner but he needs to be more consistent and crisp. He has a tendency to round routes off. Will get lazy at times and doesn't always work as hard as he should as a backside receiver. Needs to learn more subtle moves vs. man-coverage and his overall recognition skills are just decent versus zone-coverage. Had some problems with drops early in his career but was automatic as a junior. If he remains focused he can be very reliable catching the ball but there is some concern that he could revert to inconsistent ways in the NFL. Is not overly elusive and won't "shake" defenders in space. Got away with natural speed and burst at the collegiate level but will need to become more proficient with moves in the NFL. He has adequate-to-good size and great speed to drive DB's off the LOS. His problem, however, is that he lacks great strength. He has some trouble vs. bigger, more physical DB's that get into a shoving match with him. He needs to improve his array of moves and do a better job of using his arms to "swim" and "club" through press coverage.
_______ is not a finished product. He still needs to improve as an intermediate route runner and he must also improve his overall bulk and strength in order to hold up in the NFL. However, he has rare athletic ability, adequate-to-good height, excellent speed and loads of playmaking potential. He's an absolute threat as a vertical route runner and he shows the upside to develop into a premier No. 1 wide receiver in the NFL. _____ should be the third WR taken.


Any guesses?


Sounds like Jeremy Maclin.

M.O.T.H.
03-15-2009, 05:31 PM
ugh...he was so tremendously overrated coming out. I thought he was going to be good but, not that good. But yeah, he's terrible. It sure would have been nice if he stayed in school and got to play with Sidney Rice. That would have been fun atleast. He made the right choice coming out because, he was a very high pick but, at the same time...I def. didnt think he was ready to play in the league just yet...and I def. didnt agree with all the hype he was getting. I never imagined he would be so bad though, regardless.