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toonsterwu
03-06-2007, 10:16 AM
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10033511

Didn't see it mentioned yet. Heck of a solid move by the Bucs, I think.

HawkeyeFan
03-06-2007, 10:26 AM
Nice signing for them. They need all the help they can get on the Offensive Line.

bearsfan_51
03-06-2007, 10:27 AM
I want to see the money before I comment. Giving guys coming off major injuries large signing bonuses is never a good idea, I don't care how desperate you are.

Number 10
03-06-2007, 10:28 AM
Good signing....

Cutting him was the only move I have been against this far for Reese.

bearsfan_51
03-06-2007, 10:33 AM
Good signing....

Cutting him was the only move I have been against this far for Reese.
Who is the Giants starting LT going to be btw?

The Giants reak oddly of a team looking to rebuild, considering all the players they've shipped out for nothing in return as of late.

Number 10
03-06-2007, 10:37 AM
Who is the Giants starting LT going to be btw?

The Giants reak oddly of a team looking to rebuild, considering all the players they've shipped out for nothing in return as of late.

Diehl will likely move to LT and compete there with Whimper and if Whimper progresses the way the coaching staff talked about, he'll get a shot and Diehl stays inside.

And I am starting to think this may be a rough year for the Giants as well. I am glad though that we are not getting caught in the spending spree, Reese is being very economic with his approach.

bigbluedefense
03-06-2007, 10:38 AM
Who is the Giants starting LT going to be btw?

The Giants reak oddly of a team looking to rebuild, considering all the players they've shipped out for nothing in return as of late.

As of right now, we have David Diehl at LT. He played LG for us last year, had a PB caliber year at LG. He played LT for us on one game, that was the game Tiki rushed for like 180 against the skins. But still, he had alot of trouble in pass protection.

Its a huge gamble, it will either pay off great, or be a huge mistake. With Eli's mechanic issues reemerging when we lost Petitgout, I don't know if this was a good idea. Its no coincidence that once our LT went down, Eli started throwing off his backfoot again.

Guy Whimper might start next year, but I don't think he's ready, nor was I ever a big believer in him. Not exactly a good situation right now.

Jughead10
03-06-2007, 10:43 AM
Is he gonna play guard at tackle? He is probably best suited for RT. He was a little out of position for us.

I'm just glad he didn't go to the Skins. Now the possibility of him biting us in rear twice a year is gone.

bigbluedefense
03-06-2007, 10:56 AM
Is he gonna play guard at tackle? He is probably best suited for RT. He was a little out of position for us.

I'm just glad he didn't go to the Skins. Now the possibility of him biting us in rear twice a year is gone.

They have Trueblood at RT, so I think theyre gonna use him at LT. He's nto a great LT, but a solid RT, so I think it could potentially bite them in the butt.

GiantRutgersFan
03-06-2007, 11:39 AM
Who is the Giants starting LT going to be btw?

The Giants reak oddly of a team looking to rebuild, considering all the players they've shipped out for nothing in return as of late.


Theres a new GM in place. I think that we are trying to retool a little bit, but stay competitive at the same time.

I think we should be in the playoff hunt next year and win from 8-10 games (although who really knows at this point). We have a fairly easy schedule next season.


I also didnt like releasing Pettigout.


But if Jacobs plays well and our recievers hold up, we could have a good year. The Defense has holes, but I think that a lot of it had to do with Tim lewis being our Defensive Coordinator (especially regarding the secondary)

Addict
03-06-2007, 11:49 AM
the bucs signing Petitgout would pave the way for CJ to go there, now even Joe Thomas falling to them won't prevent the bucs.

eacantdraft
03-06-2007, 12:05 PM
CJ will be well gone by the time the Bucs pick.

toonsterwu
03-06-2007, 12:44 PM
The way I look at it is, while Petitgout isn't a great LT, he is an upgrade from Anthony Davis. This allows them to potentially slide Davis and his size inside, and perhaps move Joseph to center, and potentially removing OL as a possibility. That allows them to either be more aggressive in addressing their defense, or be more aggressive in moving up for Calviin Johnson, because as it stands now, I'm not sure Johnson is there either (with Detroit looking a strong option). Raiders could actually have trade options now ... or the Buccaneers could look at adding say, Gaines Adams or Amobi Okoye.

Vikes99ej
03-06-2007, 12:50 PM
Good signing by the Bucs. Basically takes away any possibility of them drafting Joe Thomas.

toonsterwu
03-06-2007, 12:53 PM
I don't think Joe Thomas would've fell to them anyways. If he's not gone in the top 2 spots, I think Cleveland will jump on him.

NY+Giants=NYG
03-06-2007, 01:04 PM
Who is the Giants starting LT going to be btw?

The Giants reak oddly of a team looking to rebuild, considering all the players they've shipped out for nothing in return as of late.

Moving David D over or trying out Guy Whimper. No we just undoing the crud that Ernie Accorsi had done throughout the last 3 years or so. Reese wants the team younger on bothsides of the ball

toonsterwu
03-06-2007, 01:09 PM
As for the Giants, I think cutting Petitgout, from an organizational perspective in regards to efficiency, is fine. But this is a critical year in Eli's developmental process, and gambling on Diehl/Whimper at LT is a big risk. I expect them to make a play for a 2nd tier veteran tackle and to perhaps bring someone in the draft, although probably not early, to provide for competition. Perhaps someone like Brandon Frye in the midrounds, who could also provide some depth inside.

magicfan39126
03-06-2007, 01:09 PM
According to Adam Schefter of NFL Network, its 3 years, 6 million.

WOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!

What a steal for Tampa.

2 million a year for a player that is easily better than Leonard Davis.

GiantRutgersFan
03-06-2007, 01:15 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!

What a steal for Tampa.

2 million a year for a player that is easily better than Leonard Davis.

Wow. I gotta say that it was a terrible move for us to let him go. I didnt like it then, I hate it now

NY+Giants=NYG
03-06-2007, 01:20 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!

What a steal for Tampa.

2 million a year for a player that is easily better than Leonard Davis.

Yeah but now depends on his leg, back spasms, and false starts. That's good if he can show he can be healthy. It is a risk move, but for that much I would do it too. Much better than what we were paying him.

DChess
03-06-2007, 01:20 PM
i just thought it was a matter of time, great move for them, seems like there tryign to head in the right direction

magicfan39126
03-06-2007, 01:24 PM
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10033511

magicfan39126
03-06-2007, 01:32 PM
Bucs are quietly doing a very nice job in FA, while (unlike other teams) keeping their salary cap friendly for future seasons.

Jughead10
03-06-2007, 01:37 PM
Wow. I gotta say that it was a terrible move for us to let him go. I didnt like it then, I hate it now

Except we weren't paying him that money. We were paying him a lot more. They said after we cut him the Giants were definately willing to talk about re-signing him at a lower cost. But Luke took it very personal we cut him in the first place.

Number 10
03-06-2007, 01:42 PM
Except we weren't paying him that money. We were paying him a lot more. They said after we cut him the Giants were definately willing to talk about re-signing him at a lower cost. But Luke took it very personal we cut him in the first place.

Yup....

Peitgout was due to make over $6 million per year for the next 2 seasons.

magicfan39126
03-06-2007, 01:43 PM
Except we weren't paying him that money. We were paying him a lot more. They said after we cut him the Giants were definately willing to talk about re-signing him at a lower cost. But Luke took it very personal we cut him in the first place.


Yeah, the Giants were in a tough spot. They didn't wanna pay Luke's original salary but the guy was offended when he was cut, making it impossible for them to re-sign him cheaper.

Caddy
03-06-2007, 02:22 PM
I like it.. He is easily an upgrade over Anthony Davis

"Free-agent tackle Luke Petitgout has reached agreement with Tampa Bay on a three-year, $15.5 million deal that includes a $3 million signing bonus. "

NY+Giants=NYG
03-06-2007, 02:44 PM
Yeah, the Giants were in a tough spot. They didn't wanna pay Luke's original salary but the guy was offended when he was cut, making it impossible for them to re-sign him cheaper.

Yeah but our new GM must have saw something in him that he didnt like. I never was a LUke fan anyways, so I am glad he is gone.

Shiver
03-06-2007, 02:46 PM
If the Bucs get Calvin Johnson their offense is going to be fantastic. Although they will have to be, with that deteriorating defense.

princefielder28
03-06-2007, 02:48 PM
Helps that terrible offensive line that they send out there year in and out; Dan Buenning is prolly the most consistent

Shiver
03-06-2007, 02:49 PM
Helps that terrible offensive line that they send out there year in and out; Dan Buenning is prolly the most consistent

Joseph and Trueblood played well in the brief time as rookies. That O-Line should be solidified next year if they stay healthy. They just need a play-maker at WR, which is why I posted above that Calvin Johnson would complete that offense.

scottyboy
03-06-2007, 02:51 PM
from a giants standpoint, look at it this way. We can give Whimper a shot. Coming out of college a big plus on him is that he played with a real nasty streak(like snee) and could pave the way for jacobs. It's good giving the kid a shot, other wise you never know. He could end up being the next Pace or Walter Jones, or just another LT who couldnt make it in the leauge. Same at LB with Wilkinson and Chase

Beans
03-06-2007, 02:53 PM
This is good. If we can snag a center that fits our sustem we can hold off on picking up a LT for a while, and we'll have a solid line.

LT: Petigout
LG: Buenning
C: Wade, for now
RG: Joseph
RT: Trueblood

Number 10
03-06-2007, 03:12 PM
The initial contract that was posted here is wrong.

The Bucs signed him to a 3 year-$15.5 million deal

magicfan39126
03-06-2007, 03:28 PM
The initial contract that was posted here is wrong.

The Bucs signed him to a 3 year-$15.5 million deal

Adam Shefter was wrong, the numbers on that linked were changed.

Still a good deal.

etk
03-06-2007, 04:06 PM
This is pretty exciting. I'm not a big Anthony Davis fan, and we needed to add a veteran to our line. This will create healthy competition between Trueblood and the other 2, may the best man win.

etk
03-06-2007, 04:07 PM
Kalil in the 2nd and offensive line will be a major strength for us.

bigbluedefense
03-06-2007, 04:10 PM
Now that I think of it, Petitgout could actually work real well in the WCO. Because of the 3 step drops, he won't have to pass protect as long, which was his weak suit. He's a great run blocker, and the WCO will mask some of his problems. Good move by the Bucs.

He's old though, so they'll have to look for a long term answer at LT regardless. Maybe not this year, but definately next year.

Chucky
03-06-2007, 04:29 PM
I love this signing, he is the only FA who could play LT, and the bucs got him relatively cheap

ks_perfection
03-06-2007, 06:41 PM
I was surprised how cheap we got him. With guards getting 7 million dollar deals getting the best OT in free agency for 5 million is pretty good. Especially since the OT class was weak compared to OG.

Damix
03-06-2007, 07:22 PM
I was surprised how cheap we got him. With guards getting 7 million dollar deals getting the best OT in free agency for 5 million is pretty good. Especially since the OT class was weak compared to OG.

Best OT from healthy, but has a ton more concerns then the guards had health wise

Number 10
03-06-2007, 07:25 PM
Do the Bucs by any chance play in Seattle next year?

scottyboy
03-06-2007, 07:27 PM
lol number 10, if they do, i think tampa fans wont be happy

Bradentonian
03-07-2007, 02:40 PM
A solid signing, and he passed the physical which was my biggest concern. Hopefully the back problems don't cause him to miss any time. Don't think for a second that this would prevent the Bucs from drafting Joe Thomas if he somehow fell to #4. If the FO feels JT can take over at LOT straight out of camp, then Luke can be in the mix at LOG since Buenning injured and his recovery doesn't look promising. Davis would compete at LOG or be swing tackle backup.

Forenci
03-07-2007, 02:44 PM
Good signing....

Cutting him was the only move I have been against this far for Reese.

Indeed. I wasn't so much against it as I was surprised by it. If Guy Whimper is coming along as well as they say, we might not need to pay to big money someone who we're not really sure about.

TwOne
03-07-2007, 03:35 PM
The way I look at it is, while Petitgout isn't a great LT, he is an upgrade from Anthony Davis. This allows them to potentially slide Davis and his size inside, and perhaps move Joseph to center, and potentially removing OL as a possibility. That allows them to either be more aggressive in addressing their defense, or be more aggressive in moving up for Calviin Johnson, because as it stands now, I'm not sure Johnson is there either (with Detroit looking a strong option). Raiders could actually have trade options now ... or the Buccaneers could look at adding say, Gaines Adams or Amobi Okoye.Moving Joseph to center would the stupidest thing ever. And Buenning is a great young guard but he tore his ACL and we'll see how he recovers but moving DJ to center is COMPLETELY stupid.

hugepunch
03-07-2007, 03:48 PM
i gotta say when i went to giants.com the day they cut luke i was livid. immensely livid and in shock. it made no sense what soever. now we are pissing in the wind. luke was one of my favorite giants. Luke Petigout has a nasty streak, hes a beast. remember when he threw down akers by his head hahaha.

tylerb929
03-07-2007, 03:54 PM
Don't think for a second that this would prevent the Bucs from drafting Joe Thomas if he somehow fell to #4. If the FO feels JT can take over at LOT straight out of camp, then Luke can be in the mix at LOG since Buenning injured and his recovery doesn't look promising.

Because Chris Simms is left handed (assuming he is the starter when the season begins and they feel comfortable with that, during contract negotiations the garunteed him starter/his job to lose status) should the right side get some if not more attention to protect his blind-side.

Bradentonian
03-07-2007, 10:22 PM
Because Chris Simms is left handed (assuming he is the starter when the season begins and they feel comfortable with that, during contract negotiations the garunteed him starter/his job to lose status) should the right side get some if not more attention to protect his blind-side.


The Bucs seem to be comfortable with Trueblood at ROT, but if Simms wins the starting job I'm sure the FO would take a closer look. Honestly, though, at this point I think Garcia is the odds-on favorite to start. Gruden has been trying to get him on board for years.