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hannah73
03-16-2009, 01:36 PM
Is Ayers it? Does he have enough speed to be able to cover the flats? The other guys are athletic, but I don't know if they have enough strength to stop the run.

ElectricEye
03-16-2009, 01:37 PM
That's not usually something you look terribly deep into when it comes to OLB's in a 3-4.

Babylon
03-16-2009, 01:41 PM
The greatest of them all was Lawrence Taylor and he could get out and cover his side of the field. I thought the best out there was Mark Herzlich but he didnt declare. I'd rank a few before Ayers as an OLB:

Curry (if need be)
Browne
Barwin
English
Sintim
Cushing
Matthews
Maybin

PACKmanN
03-16-2009, 01:43 PM
Brandon Williams, Texas Tech
Ian Campbell, Kansas State
Phillip Hunt, Houston

thule
03-16-2009, 02:01 PM
Cushing Mathhews and Barwin imo...all could play the stud and do well at it.

phlysac
03-17-2009, 06:43 PM
Brandon Williams, Texas Tech


I wonder if many of us are thinking different things when we hear "setting the edge".

I think of Robert Ayers and Larry English when it comes to being a strong-side, "set-the-edge" run-stuffer as a 3-4 OLB. Brandon Williams had 12 sacks this season which is great. He only had 4 solo tackles that were NOT sacks. He was absolutely horrendous against the run.

Pitt
03-17-2009, 06:59 PM
That's not usually something you look terribly deep into when it comes to OLB's in a 3-4.

I agree. In no way would this affect their stock.

brat316
03-17-2009, 07:03 PM
Tackles for a loss count as a run stopper, but it all depends on if your DEs are getting blocked by enough people. Thus letting the Olb go free and hit, and if the De is getting blocked one on one, then your olb has to wait and come of the block.


It should effect their stock, if you can't stop the run by sheding off a blocker, then might as well run that one way.

ElectricEye
03-17-2009, 08:27 PM
Most of them can do it in the first place though. Can't really think of many of them that would have trouble holding up against the run coming free besides the terribly undersized guys.

CantStopGregJones
03-17-2009, 09:04 PM
Connor Barwin hands down. I don't know how many times I have to say it. He defended something like 9 passes this season...those are DB numbers! He also gets under the OTs and plays with leverage which allows him to be very effective against the run. Oh and did I mention he knows how to sack the QB as well?

Babylon
03-18-2009, 01:31 PM
Connor Barwin hands down. I don't know how many times I have to say it. He defended something like 9 passes this season...those are DB numbers! He also gets under the OTs and plays with leverage which allows him to be very effective against the run. Oh and did I mention he knows how to sack the QB as well?


Sshhhh. Trying to slide him under the radar to Seattle or New England early round 2.

I KNOW IT ALL
03-18-2009, 02:24 PM
I agree. In no way would this affect their stock.

Are you kidding me? You don't think teams are going to be carefully at a player's ability to defend the run? Obviously pass rush is the #1 priority for 3-4 OLBs but run stopping ability is definitely a significant factor as well.

starwitness
03-18-2009, 03:16 PM
Stoppin the run is PARAMOUNT for a SLB in any defense, 3-4 included. If you dont stop the run, you cant force long yardage situations, and you'll never get a chance to rush the passer anyway. Teams have pass rush specialists that they bring in on 2nd or 3rd and long plays to get after the QB, or maybe spell thier starters. IMO if you cant set the edge, shed blocks etc, you shouldnt be a starter in the pros, and you shouldnt be a first day draft pick either.

phlysac
03-18-2009, 10:08 PM
Connor Barwin hands down. I don't know how many times I have to say it. He defended something like 9 passes this season...those are DB numbers!

Again, what does his ability in coverage have to do with stopping the run and/or setting the edge?

CantStopGregJones
03-19-2009, 12:55 AM
Again, what does his ability in coverage have to do with stopping the run and/or setting the edge?

He asked about coverage in the flats d-bag. Get off my nuts, or ya know read the rest of the post.

phlysac
03-19-2009, 09:14 AM
He asked about coverage in the flats d-bag. Get off my nuts, or ya know read the rest of the post.

Reading comprehensin FTW!

He asked who the best were at stopping the run and setting the edge. He asked if Ayers could cover in the flat.

I agree with you that Barwin has the athleticism to excel in coverage and the TE experience to give him the appropriate technique to stop the run.