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BamaFalcon59
03-18-2009, 11:01 AM
Well, there is an overrated thread. So I decided to make an underrated thread.

To avoid this becoming a fullout homer thread, one for offense and one for defense sounds right. Or two players altogether.

For the Falcons I'll go with the not usually spoke of players...

CB Chris Houston
Plays short routes better than just about any NFL cornerback. Ball skills have improved. Still can get beat when not facing the ball.

FS Erik Coleman
95 tackles and three interceptions last season, probowl numbers. Name isn't heard often, and for a safety that is a good thing.

Honorable mention: ROG Justin Blalock, ROT Tyson Clabo

Mr. Hero
03-18-2009, 11:10 AM
Ahmad Bradshaw, people who don't watch the giants every week don't realize how explosive his first few steps are and how tough he is to bring down having a low center of gravity, good strength for his size and he never stops churning his legs. The Big Boss Man is another possible option, he's becoming a very strong blocker and you can see how much he looks up to Jason Witten with how hard he's worked on his route running and consistency catching the ball.

Defensively I'd go with Corey Webster since he played like a top 10 corner last season, although I think Bryan Kehl is generally more under-rated.

Brent
03-18-2009, 11:19 AM
Eric Heitmann is grossly underrated as a center.

Ray McDonald was great at DE for us before he got hurt.

OneToughGame
03-18-2009, 11:23 AM
Brandon Mebane

keylime_5
03-18-2009, 11:30 AM
lawrence vickers, brandon mcdonald, phil dawson.

thenewfeature06
03-18-2009, 11:34 AM
Zach Miller

derza222
03-18-2009, 11:39 AM
I don't know if any Jets are that underrated. I think Brick has been called overrated enough that he's underrated on the offensive side of the ball. Defensively basically everybody that deserves love gets it, but I'll go with Shaun Ellis. Maybe not your ideal 3-4 DE, but he puts up some solid numbers and really helps the pass rush. Those are both real stretches, though.

For some real underrated guys I love both Ndukwe and Peko on the Bengals. And Kevin Walter is underrated as hell, too.

wicket
03-18-2009, 11:48 AM
offense: Jahri Evans (should have been to the pro bowl at least once by now)
defense: Scott Fujita (not spectacular but makes no mistakes and is a great leader)

TimD
03-18-2009, 11:53 AM
I was thinking Kevin Walter as soon as I saw this thread. Nice job Derza.

For the Jets I think you nailed it when you said D'Brick. He made the pro-bowl last year as an alternate, but every fan seems to bash him.

Ellis is another good pick. I think he's really shown how versatile he is. He can play the 4-3 or 3-4 at a high level and is great next to Jenkins.

dabears10
03-18-2009, 11:57 AM
Bears:

Offense: Desmond Clark TE
Well everyone sucks on offense. I'd probably say Clark is properly rated but had to choose some one.

Defense: Israel Idonje DL
Most of the Bears defense is overrated, but it came between Briggs and Idonje and most people know about Briggs but few know about Idonje who fills in at every DL spot and does so well.

abaddon41_80
03-18-2009, 11:57 AM
OLB Manny Lawson - People see his sack totals and assume he is a bust of an outside linebacker but rushing the QB is not what he does. He is the best coverage linebacker in the league and most of the time he drops back into coverage

Joe Staley - True the stat sheet says he allowed 8.5 sacks last year but only 1 of those came after Shaun Hill took over at QB. Anyone who watched any 49er games in the second half of last season knows how great he was.

Sniper
03-18-2009, 11:57 AM
Quintin Mikell
Sheldon Brown
Brodrick Bunkley
Juqua Parker

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
03-18-2009, 11:58 AM
Kelly Gregg

PACKmanN
03-18-2009, 12:18 PM
Offense-

Daryn Colledge

Defense-

Tramon Williams

T-RICH49
03-18-2009, 12:20 PM
Mark Bradley
Jarrad Page
Dustin Colquitt(yes I know listing a P is sad)

Bengals78
03-18-2009, 12:32 PM
Offense - Andrew Whitworth

Defense - Ndukwe or Peko

Crickett
03-18-2009, 12:36 PM
Kerry Rhodes. Any time there is a discussion of where safeties rank, it's like Kerry Rhodes ceases to exist. So underrated that he doesn't even make underrated list. How he hasn't made a pro bowl yet boggles my mind.

d34ng3l021
03-18-2009, 12:40 PM
Falcons:

Offense: LG Justin Blalock. Thought to be a steal in the 2007 draft, he was a bit slow on developing in his rookie year. In his 2nd year however, he has become a factor in the run game and plays the pass game well. He has a knack for recovering key fumbles too (1 in the endzone for a TD in the Minny game, and 1 in OT in the Bucs game. The Falcons might not be in playoffs if it weren't for his FRs).

Defense: UT Jonathan Babineaux. He was one of the Falcons breakout players in 2008 and made his presence known by getting great penetration in the run and pass game. He has a quick first step and can collapse the pocket. He was among the league leaders in TFL (either sometime during the season or at the end) and is only going to get better.

Chucky
03-18-2009, 12:58 PM
Bucs-

Offence- Donald Penn LT

Defence- Tanard Jackson FS

SeanTaylorRIP
03-18-2009, 01:18 PM
It pains me to say it but Fred Smoot. Many still think he's trash like he was in Minnesota but IMO since he came back he is better than he was before he left us the first time. Some how he learned how to tackle and he's always solid in coverage. He runs his mouth but its in a fun way. I honestly wasn't even a Smoot fan the first time he was with us and many thought he was pro bowl material, but I am a fan of his now. He isn't pro bowl material but he is more than capable of starting and he is amazing to have as our 3rd corner.

Matthew Jones
03-18-2009, 01:22 PM
For New England:

RB Laurence Maroney - His lack of success has been more to do with injuries and a lack of opportunities than skill. His rookie year incl. playoffs had more yards on less carries than Joseph Addai.

RT Nick Kaczur - Everyone cites a weakness at right tackle when giving New England an offensive linemen, but Kaczur actually allowed just 3.5 sacks last year and did a pretty good job overall.

CB Terrence Wheatley - I see a lot of people claiming New England took a bust when they give them a cornerback, but Wheatley actually was shutting down Marvin Harrison in his first start before a season-ending wrist injury.

Thumper
03-18-2009, 01:25 PM
Offense-
Jason Avant

Defense-
Broderick Bunkley

E-Man
03-18-2009, 01:25 PM
Kerry Rhodes. Any time there is a discussion of where safeties rank, it's like Kerry Rhodes ceases to exist. So underrated that he doesn't even make underrated list. How he hasn't made a pro bowl yet boggles my mind.
Co-sign on that one. Some people were clamoring for him a few years ago, but now he's never brought up.:confused:

throwback54milkman
03-18-2009, 01:40 PM
kerry rhodes was once underrated, but is not quite as good now---

little leon however is very underrated even though he made the PB; hes been the most valuable player on the jets for the past 2 seasons easily

BmoreBlackByrdz
03-18-2009, 01:52 PM
Baltimore Ravens

Offense - Jared Gaither - Soon to be an elite Tackle in this league.

Defense - Jarret Johnson - This man is just a straigh up football player. He plays the run well and does a good job rushing the passer. Did a great job replacing Adalius Thomas.

cunit2k9
03-18-2009, 02:08 PM
Offense - Josh Cribbs

Defense - Josh Cribbs

GB12
03-18-2009, 03:19 PM
Cullen Jenkins. It sucks that he was lost for the season because he was going to have a monster season last year. Now that he'll be playing 3-4 DE he'll probably never get the recognition.

JonasBlane
03-18-2009, 04:19 PM
Steelers:

Offense - Heath Miller. Just a solid solid tight end. Great blocker, and pretty much never ever drops a ball. Good after the catch as well, just not blessed with great speed.

Defense - Aaron Smith. He's possibly the most valuable player on the best defense in the league. Probably not underrated on this board, as Steelers fans have been hyping him up since I've been here. But he is barely known to most NFL fans. He's amazing against the run, doesn't take plays off. Often takes up 2 OL allowing Woodley to break free.

ST - Jeff Reed - In 2007 he only missed 2 FG's all season. One was from like 60 yards, and the other one was in the mud bowl vs. Miami where the kicking conditions were basically impossible. This season he missed just 4 FG's, I believe only 2 or 3 of them were makable FG's. I think I read that he is top 5 in all time FG%. And he does this all while kicking at one of the most difficult stadiums to kick at.

ATLDirtyBirds
03-18-2009, 04:24 PM
Falcons have quite a few seeing as we aren't really well known by a lot of people besides the ones mentioned (Blalock, Coleman, Babineaux) I'll add RT Tyson Clabo and RG Harvey Dahl.

Brodeur
03-18-2009, 04:46 PM
Lions:
Offense- No one as everyone besides Calvin Johnson and Keith Smith suck
Defense- No one as everyone sucks
Special Teams- Jason Hanson aka Kicking God

TitanHope
03-18-2009, 05:24 PM
Offense: FB Ahmard Hall, and it's not a contest. He's the best FB in the NFL, and has paved the way for our running game the past 3 seasons. It ain't easy clearing out 8-man fronts, but he's dealt punishment. Hall had a huge effect on Chris Johnson's success last season, and got little credit for it.

Defense: Tough one for the Titans, because it seems like for every star we have, we have a guy who gets over-shadowed. Haynesworth>Tony Brown. Cortland Finnegan>Nick Harper. Keith Bulluck>David Thornton.

I'll say Tony Brown, because if you look at his profile on NFL.com, they don't have the correct picture of him - it's a pic of Bryce Fisher isntead. Poor fella'...

BlindSite
03-18-2009, 05:35 PM
Other teams:

Stewart Bradley LB Philadelphia Eagles: Though in his first year starting he didn't light up the statistical categories he showed excellent ability to read an react to the play in front of him. His first step is great, he runs well in coverage and shows some good fluidity in his playing style and when needed he can deliver the wood. It's a homer comparison but he reminds me a heck of a lot of a young Dan Morgan, quick to read, quick to swarm and does damage when he gets there, one of the better young linebackers coming through the NFL.

Owen Daniels TE Houston Texans: This guy doesn't get the credit he deserves for just how good he has been. When TE discussions usually crop up it's all about Witten, Gates and Gonzalez, occasionally schefter sneaks in a mention, but this guy has been consistently up there with all of them. Especially as a receiver. Last year he was 3rd among active tight ends with over 70 receptions and 800 yards. Though he is a recognisable name, he is an elite TE and is never mentioned as such, for that reason he's underrated.

Shaun Ellis DE New York Jets: Aided by the arrival of Kris Jenkins Ellis really stepped up his performance in 2008 and managed to find himself with more sacks and tackles than some outside linebackers. Not a bad effort imo, and he doesn't get enough credit for just how good of a defensive end he is. As far as I'm concerned he gets very little recognition considering just how good he is.

Homer Pick:

Thomas Davis OLB Carolina Panthers: After a relatively slow development due to two position changes in two years and then another one before the beginning of the season, Davis has come into his own at WLB for the Panthers. He won't pick off many passes, but he is adept in coverage, is able to blitz with effectiveness and is one of the hardest hitters and surest tackles in the NFL. Never really gets noticed as the world of OLB's is usually 34 names, but in the 43 he is among the top in the NFL.

BuddyCHRIST
03-18-2009, 05:44 PM
Pierre Thomas

Cicero
03-18-2009, 07:01 PM
Brandon Mebane
x2 on that.

I don't think most people realize how good Hill is either.

WAREhouse
03-18-2009, 07:07 PM
Bradie James- Still Has no pro bowls, despite being one of the best ILBs in the league. As a run stuffer, they dont' come much better than Bradie, and anyone wanting to see proof can look back at that Steelers game with Bradie making TFL after TFL, contributing to our outstanding defensive play that game. In coverage, he's average, but he will make plays up the middle and can shut down one sideline if asked to in the run game.

BamaFalcon59
03-18-2009, 08:27 PM
x2 on that.

I don't think most people realize how good Hill is either.

A lot of Falcons fans wanted Hill before he was franchised.

619
03-18-2009, 08:32 PM
Raiders :

Offense - Zach Miller
Defense - Trevor Scott (Okay, well you'll know about him soon enough)

the decider13
03-18-2009, 08:39 PM
Offense: Ryan Harris...he is definately a superb RT and should be a fringe all-pro RT. Become an item the same year as Clady, so he was over shadowed.

Peyton Hillis: Not just lovin on one of my favorites, but I think that Hillis is an extremely dangerous member of the backfield. If he is starting FB, he can take handoffs and catch out of the backfield.

BufFan71
03-18-2009, 08:50 PM
buffalo:


Langston Walker


Terrence McGee

etk
03-18-2009, 09:54 PM
CB Chris Houston
Plays short routes better than just about any NFL cornerback. Ball skills have improved. Still can get beat when not facing the ball.



Super-Underrated
Antonio Bryant - Chris Houston can attest to his underratedness. Underrated to Hakeem Nicks proportions, and they're similar players.

A Little Bit
Earnest Graham - Solid back. Better than Derrick Ward. Makes yards out of nothing.
BJ Askew - Solid overall FB.
Donald Penn - Good pass blocker.
Ryan Sims - Bucs fans seem to hate him but he's a force against the run, at least from what I saw early in the year.
Jimmy Wilkerson - Good hustle to get to the QB. Especially in contrast to the rest of our DL.
Tanard Jackson/Jermaine Phillips - 2 of the best safeties in the league. If our front 7 wasn't so horrible last year, they wouldn't be underrated.

Malaka
03-18-2009, 09:56 PM
I feel Shaun O'Hara and Fred Robbins are a bit underrated for the Giants IMO.

CC.SD
03-18-2009, 10:01 PM
Quentin Jammer, Stephen Cooper.

I really think Jammer plays as well as basically any corner in the league, you watch his game and it's physical, refined, and extremely consistent. He still takes a backseat to a ton of people in positional rankings though.

SimonRath
03-18-2009, 10:02 PM
A Little Bit[/U]
Earnest Graham - Solid back. Better than Derrick Ward. Makes yards out of nothing.

i dont think hes good at all..

Mr. Hero
03-18-2009, 10:03 PM
I feel Shaun O'Hara and Fred Robbins are a bit underrated for the Giants IMO.

Honestly I think Big Fred might be getting over-rated. He's a good DT who's strong against the run and gets some pressure, but he's not really a stand out and I think some people over-rate him just for being part of our beastly DL.

etk
03-18-2009, 10:04 PM
i dont think hes good at all..

You're entitled to your opinion. That's all I can say to a comment like that.

Malaka
03-18-2009, 10:05 PM
Honestly I think Big Fred might be getting over-rated. He's a good DT who's strong against the run and gets some pressure, but he's not really a stand out and I think some people over-rate him just for being part of our beastly DL.

I haven't really heard anyone talk about him, honestly, but anyway I think O'Hara is a borderline top 5 C, and doesn't get the credit for it.

SimonRath
03-18-2009, 10:05 PM
You're entitled to your opinion. That's all I can say to a comment like that.

a comment like that?..
whats that suppose to mean?

Chucky
03-18-2009, 10:06 PM
a comment like that?..
whats that suppose to mean?

probably has something to do with not only disagreeing with his post but the fact that you put zero effort or explanation into backing up your contradicting point

Mr. Hero
03-18-2009, 10:06 PM
I haven't really heard anyone talk about him, honestly, but anyway I think O'Hara is a borderline top 5 C, and doesn't get the credit for it.

No doubt O'Hara is a probowl caliber center.

SimonRath
03-18-2009, 10:10 PM
probably has something to do with not only disagreeing with his post but the fact that you put zero effort or explanation into backing up your contradicting point

well my bad.
I think he had jus one good year an i dont think he can stay healthy for a whole season. an hes not the youngest player so he doesnt have many years left.

thats my opinion

ZOMGitsjosh
03-18-2009, 10:14 PM
Thomas Davis OLB Carolina Panthers: After a relatively slow development due to two position changes in two years and then another one before the beginning of the season, Davis has come into his own at WLB for the Panthers. He won't pick off many passes, but he is adept in coverage, is able to blitz with effectiveness and is one of the hardest hitters and surest tackles in the NFL. Never really gets noticed as the world of OLB's is usually 34 names, but in the 43 he is among the top in the NFL.

Agreedddd.

General Zod
03-18-2009, 10:36 PM
Chad Greenway

GB12
03-18-2009, 11:03 PM
Super-Underrated
Antonio Bryant - Chris Houston can attest to his underratedness. Underrated to Hakeem Nicks proportions, and they're similar players.
Antonio Bryant is not "super underrated". He's an average starter that did not have a great season until last year.

Chief49er
03-18-2009, 11:07 PM
Defense:
DE: Justin Smith
LB: Barrett Ruud

Offense:
WR: Roddy White
QB: Chad Pennington

MooshooGawd
03-18-2009, 11:14 PM
Dhani Jones

Most people overlook him because he's been on a number of teams and even Bengal fans are overlooking him in hopes of drafting a 'stud' MLB.

The guy's not flashy, but I he's exactly what our defense needs. Led the NFL in tackles for most of last season.

BlindSite
03-18-2009, 11:56 PM
Antonio Bryant is not "super underrated". He's an average starter that did not have a great season until last year.

No antonio Bryant has consistently been an offensive force wherever he's landed, new system, new QB, none of it has mattered, he's produced and no one knows where he ends up year to year, but he finds a way to play well.

His problem is he's a complete headcase.

In 6 years he has over 5,000 yards and 25 touchdowns. Not bad, for someone who's never mentioned with effective wide receivers. Especially when you consider for the first two years of his career he was buried on the dallas depth chart, spent 2 years with the browns, a full year out of football and then came back last year to have the best stats of his career.

Nalej
03-18-2009, 11:58 PM
For New England:

RT Nick Kaczur - Everyone cites a weakness at right tackle when giving New England an offensive linemen, but Kaczur actually allowed just 3.5 sacks last year and did a pretty good job overall.


I disagree. Every time I watched the Pats play- all I saw was him getting manhandled.
Each time the pressure came from his side. Regardless if he gave up the sack or not... he contributed to breaking down the pocket.
He urks me so f-in bad. I hope we upgraded via the draft.

*shrug* I just don't see what you see in him

Bigburt63
03-19-2009, 09:11 AM
I disagree. Every time I watched the Pats play- all I saw was him getting manhandled.
Each time the pressure came from his side. Regardless if he gave up the sack or not... he contributed to breaking down the pocket.
He urks me so f-in bad. I hope we upgraded via the draft.

*shrug* I just don't see what you see in him

Could he be upgraded? yes. Is he the worst tackle in the league? Absolutely not. He isn't as terrible as so many patriots fans make him out to be. The only way to upgrade him would be early in the draft, and I'd rather fill our more glaring needs than upgrade a position that isn't that bad.

etk
03-19-2009, 11:28 AM
Antonio Bryant is not "super underrated". He's an average starter that did not have a great season until last year.

You're just proving how underrated he is. You call him an average starter right after admitting he had a great season last year. This is what I'm talking about.

The Great Jonathan Vilma
03-19-2009, 11:47 AM
well my bad.
I think he had jus one good year an i dont think he can stay healthy for a whole season. an hes not the youngest player so he doesnt have many years left.

thats my opinion

Age doesn't really factor into whether a guy is 'underrated'....at least in my books. We aren't basing this on potential....not going against your opinion on Graham, just i don't see how age is one of the key criteria you are using for this.

bigbluedefense
03-19-2009, 11:53 AM
Im gonna mention 2 names not on my team.

1. Zach Miller - people don't realize how good Zach Miller really is because of the ineptitude of the Oakland offense. The guy is ALWAYS open. He's a beast. The problem is he's left in to block 80% of the time, and a lot of times when he's open, he doesn't get the ball. On another team he'd be drawing comparisons to Jason Witten.

2. Kevin Vickerson - Kevin Vickerson is the league's best kept secret. He's going to replace Haynesworth, and while he won't give you what Haynesworth gave you, he's going to be a great player in his own right. There were times when he was on the field and I mistaken him for Haynesworth. Same size/strength, and both can push that pocket back and draw the double. This guy will ease the loss of Haynesworth, and could very well develop into a beast in his own right.

bored of education
03-19-2009, 11:58 AM
Stewart Bradley. I loved him as a prospect out of Nebraska.

TACKLE
03-19-2009, 01:17 PM
Not from my team but...

Jeff Otah - Otah was one of the main reasons Williams/Stewart had so much success. I haven't seen an OT in while who dominate in the run game like he does. I know he's a RT but his pass pro was solid and he did a surprising well against speed rushers. When I watched Carolina play, I loved just watching him. As rookie, he was a man among boys. He is one of if not the best RT's in football and the best is still to come.

Eric Winston - Another under-appreciated RT. Winston is a terrific pass protector and a great fit in their offense. He is very athletic and has very sound foot work. The Texans O-Line have had a big improvement in recent years and Winston is a big reason for that. He is also solid in the run game and can get movement on DE's.

etk
03-19-2009, 01:57 PM
well my bad.
I think he had jus one good year an i dont think he can stay healthy for a whole season. an hes not the youngest player so he doesnt have many years left.

thats my opinion

It's not like we're talking about someone who's had 10 years of carrying the football. Graham earned himself a shot 2 years ago and never looked back. Last year he suffered from a fluke injury. Considering his size and running style, there's no reason to believe he can't stay healthy, especially now that Jon "run 'em into the ground" Gruden is gone.

Graham is a power back with good vision, receiving ability, and blocking. He's unselfish, hard-working and plays with heart. He runs behind an offensive line that gets absolutely no push in the run game, and teams keyed on Graham and the run because we had no offensive talent and a stupid dinky offense.

He should improve a lot this year (statistically) in combination with Ward.

bigbluedefense
03-19-2009, 02:25 PM
Tanard Jackson is ridiculously underrated.

Im a Barrett Rudd fan too.



I might be alone in this, but I think the Bucs are gonna be real nice. If they didn't quit on Kiffin, I firmly believed they couldve been SB contenders this past year.

PACKmanN
03-19-2009, 02:45 PM
Other teams:

Stewart Bradley LB Philadelphia Eagles: Though in his first year starting he didn't light up the statistical categories he showed excellent ability to read an react to the play in front of him. His first step is great, he runs well in coverage and shows some good fluidity in his playing style and when needed he can deliver the wood. It's a homer comparison but he reminds me a heck of a lot of a young Dan Morgan, quick to read, quick to swarm and does damage when he gets there, one of the better young linebackers coming through the NFL.

Owen Daniels TE Houston Texans: This guy doesn't get the credit he deserves for just how good he has been. When TE discussions usually crop up it's all about Witten, Gates and Gonzalez, occasionally schefter sneaks in a mention, but this guy has been consistently up there with all of them. Especially as a receiver. Last year he was 3rd among active tight ends with over 70 receptions and 800 yards. Though he is a recognisable name, he is an elite TE and is never mentioned as such, for that reason he's underrated.

Shaun Ellis DE New York Jets: Aided by the arrival of Kris Jenkins Ellis really stepped up his performance in 2008 and managed to find himself with more sacks and tackles than some outside linebackers. Not a bad effort imo, and he doesn't get enough credit for just how good of a defensive end he is. As far as I'm concerned he gets very little recognition considering just how good he is.

Homer Pick:

Thomas Davis OLB Carolina Panthers: After a relatively slow development due to two position changes in two years and then another one before the beginning of the season, Davis has come into his own at WLB for the Panthers. He won't pick off many passes, but he is adept in coverage, is able to blitz with effectiveness and is one of the hardest hitters and surest tackles in the NFL. Never really gets noticed as the world of OLB's is usually 34 names, but in the 43 he is among the top in the NFL.
surprising Davis has a big year when Peppers had one.

the decider13
03-19-2009, 02:49 PM
Not my team: Aaron Smith DE Steelers

I think he is an amazing DE that hardly gets any credit. Always hearin about troy, woodley and harrison, but never Aaron Smith.

SimonRath
03-19-2009, 03:17 PM
Age doesn't really factor into whether a guy is 'underrated'....at least in my books. We aren't basing this on potential....not going against your opinion on Graham, just i don't see how age is one of the key criteria you are using for this.

i didnt mean it like age is reallly important i ment like i dont think he has what it takes to have a good year. again, just my own opinion

themaninblack
03-19-2009, 04:52 PM
Bengals:

Offense- Andrew Whitworth

Defense- The entire unit. Haha, jk but theres a few guys such as Peko, Ndukwe, Dhani Jones, and Chris Crocker. Peko and Ndukwe especially.

LookItsAlDavis
03-19-2009, 06:07 PM
Justin Fargas, Chris Johnson

49ersfan_87
03-19-2009, 07:33 PM
Offense- LG David Baas. 33rd overall pick from 05. He never started a season due to various stupid reasons, but he always produced. When he was inserted into the lineup, C Eric Heitmann and LT Joe Staleys play both improved. Good pass protector and run blocker as well as a good pulling guar.d

Defense- OLB Manny Lawson. Everyone thinks hes a bust, which is partially true. Hes not the pass rusher 49er fans hoped for, but hes solid in run support and excellent in coverage. He's not the star we expected but hes a good starter.

FlyingElvis
03-20-2009, 09:43 AM
For New England:

RB Laurence Maroney - His lack of success has been more to do with injuries and a lack of opportunities than skill. His rookie year incl. playoffs had more yards on less carries than Joseph Addai.

RT Nick Kaczur - Everyone cites a weakness at right tackle when giving New England an offensive linemen, but Kaczur actually allowed just 3.5 sacks last year and did a pretty good job overall.

CB Terrence Wheatley - I see a lot of people claiming New England took a bust when they give them a cornerback, but Wheatley actually was shutting down Marvin Harrison in his first start before a season-ending wrist injury.

I agree Wheatley is much more talented than he gets credit for, but maybe using Marvin Harrison to illustrate that point is not the best way to go. lol

My Pats vote goes to:

Jarvis Green - the guy makes plays every time he's on the field and I don't ever feel like we have a drop-off when Seymour or Warren get hurt and miss time.

Kevin Faulk - Bob Kraft should just build a statue of this guy somewhere in the new Patriots Place facility. Faulk is the ultimate Patriot (sorry Troy!) and has been a stud in any capacity the Pats need for over a decade. 3rd down back my ass.

triggernome
03-20-2009, 12:39 PM
Owen Daniels and Kevin Walter have been mentioned already, so I'll go in a different direction for the Texans.

Vonta Leach - This guy is an absolute monster run blocker, and a big reason why we've been able to run the ball at all before Slaton, as well as a key part of Slaton's success.

Jacques Reeves - He got abused early on in the season, but down the stretch he was able to play the ball a lot better and became a very solid CB. He's always been able to stick with his man downfield, and could be a beast with better defensive coaches.

Mauck
03-21-2009, 12:13 AM
Matt Schaub QB Houston

4th completion percent 66.1
2nd yards per attempt 8.0
4th Yards per game 276.6
7th QB rating 92.7

26th ESPN QB rank 'em

Thumper
03-21-2009, 02:23 AM
Since Leonard Weaver is an Eagle now I'm throwing his name into the discussion. He is a beast.

Mr. Hero
03-21-2009, 03:42 AM
Fred Jackson's somewhat under-rated. I mean he's still not very well known yet proved to be a very strong compliment to Marshawn Lynch for the bills. If they sort out their offensive line and keep trent edwards safe that offense will move the ball. I think a playoff birth isn't out of the question if the defense can get more out of their pass rush.

Notredameleo
03-23-2009, 11:34 AM
Some good players who are still underrated....Kerry Rhodes(absolute monster), Darnell Dockett, Luis Castillo, Owen Daniels

underrated in general----Chinedum Ndukwe(the Nuke), Kevin Walter, Cliff Avril, As much as I hate to say it because hes a packer, but Greg Jennings. Willie Parker