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Bucs_Rule
03-19-2009, 07:34 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/rank?versionId=3&listId=23

1.Tom Brady
2.Peyton Manning
3.Ben Roethlisberger
4.Drew Brees
5.Kurt Warner
6.Philip Rivers
7.Carson Palmer
8.Donovan McNabb
9.Jay Cutler
10.Matt Ryan
11.Chad Pennington
12.Matt Hasselbeck
13.Tony Romo
14.Aaron Rodgers
15.Matt Schaub
16.Eli Manning
17.Joe Flacco
18.Matt Cassel
19.David Garrard
20.Brady Quinn
21.Matthew Stafford
22.Mark Sanchez
23.JaMarcus Russell
24.Marc Bulger
25.Shaun Hill
26.Kerry Collins
27.Jason Campbell
28.Kyle Orton
29.Trent Edwards
30.Jake Delhomme
31.Jeff Garcia
32.Tarvaris Jackson
33.Derek Anderson

Its so much quicker/easier to rankem with the ESPN page.

Mr. Hero
03-19-2009, 07:38 PM
I'd say eli's too low, and point to Matt "I like to take a few games off each year due to injury, but thank god I get to throw th ball to Andre" Schaub being ranked ahead of him. But i'd probably come off as a homer.

MetSox17
03-19-2009, 07:42 PM
Ugh, why is this being discussed again...

The Legend
03-19-2009, 07:45 PM
My Top 5 QB For The 2009 Season

1.Tom Brady
2.Peyton Manning
3.Philip Rivers
4.Drew Brees
5.Donovan McNabb

Malaka
03-19-2009, 07:45 PM
Hasselback, Shaub, and Pennington over Eli? Lmao... this is not even Giants homerism but really? Pennington an argument maybe, but Shaub and Hasselback are you ******* me? Hasselback was injured and has not done much since the SEA super bowl trip, and Shaub can't even stay healthy I don't think Ryan has done enough to be at 10 either...

fenikz
03-19-2009, 07:58 PM
My Top 5 QB For The 2009 Season

1.Tom Brady
2.Peyton Manning
3.Philip Rivers
4.Drew Brees
5.Donovan McNabb

did something change or does Warner not still have the best WRs in the NFL?

P-L
03-19-2009, 08:13 PM
Is this physical talent or overall talent? If it's the latter than neither Manning nor Brady are very high. If it's the former than they have to be the consensus top two.

BeerBaron
03-19-2009, 08:19 PM
Orton may not be the greatest QB there every was but he has a damn near 2/3 winning percentage and has no business being behind Quinn, the rookies or Shaun ******* Hill....

coordinator0
03-19-2009, 08:39 PM
Shaub looks a little high.

keylime_5
03-19-2009, 08:42 PM
espn is dumb. boycott!

TACKLE
03-19-2009, 08:42 PM
Is this list based off talent or best QB. I know it says talent but the list reflects best QB's. Which is it?

edit:P-L, I didn't see you already asked the same question.

Bucs_Rule
03-19-2009, 09:26 PM
Overall QB talent and production. Ranking guys that have already played or rookies is pretty hard.

Schaub was 7th for passer rating. He's done pretty well when he was on the field, I didn't consider injuries for any of it. That also helped Hasselbeck, he has been consistently very good for the past seasons

Eli probably is probably too low, how the offense struggled at the end of the season really stuck out in my mind. Besides the SuperBowl run he's very inconsistent, last year he was really good for the most of the season, really bad at the end. Should have boosted him some for winning the SB.

Orton really struggled after he came back from injury. He just starred down receivers way too much.

Beans
03-19-2009, 09:38 PM
Is this physical talent or overall talent? If it's the latter than neither Manning nor Brady are very high. If it's the former than they have to be the consensus top two.

other way around, bub

GBahDunka
03-19-2009, 10:21 PM
mine

1.Tom Brady
2.Peyton Manning
3.Drew Brees
4.Carson Palmer
5.Ben Roethlisberger
6.Philip Rivers
7.Kurt Warner
8.Tony Romo
9.Donovan McNabb
10.Matt Ryan
11.Aaron Rodgers
12.Eli Manning
13.Jay Cutler
14.Matt Hasselbeck
15.Matt Cassel
16.Jake Delhomme
17.Chad Pennington
18.David Garrard
19.Matt Schaub
20.Marc Bulger
21.Jason Campbell
22.Joe Flacco
23.Kyle Orton
24.Trent Edwards
25.Brady Quinn
26.Matthew Stafford
27.JaMarcus Russell
28.Mark Sanchez
29.Kerry Collins
30.MJeff Garcia
31.Derek Anderson
32.Tarvaris Jackson
33. Shaun Hill

steelersfan43
03-19-2009, 10:58 PM
Drew Brees >Peyton>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Rest

steelersfan43
03-19-2009, 10:59 PM
other way around, bub
latter and former fail, lol

PACKmanN
03-19-2009, 11:07 PM
hahahahaha, shows you what media hype can do for your career.

WAREhouse
03-19-2009, 11:12 PM
# Tom Brady
# 2.Peyton Manning
# 3.Drew Brees
# 4.Ben Roethlisberger
# 5.Philip Rivers
# 6.Kurt Warner
# 7.Tony Romo
# 8.Carson Palmer
# 9.Jay Cutler
# 10.Eli Manning
# 11.Aaron Rodgers
# 12.JaMarcus Russell
# 13.Donovan McNabb
# 14.Matt Hasselbeck
# 15.Matt Ryan
# 16.Trent Edwards
# 17.Jeff Garcia
# 18.Jason Campbell
# 19.Brady Quinn
# 20.Joe Flacco
# 21.Chad Pennington
# 22.David Garrard
# 23.Kerry Collins
# 24.Jake Delhomme
# 25.Derek Anderson
# 26.Shaun Hill
# 27.Matt Cassel
# 28.Matt Schaub
# 29.Marc Bulger
# 30.Matthew Stafford
# 31.Kyle Orton
# 32.Tarvaris Jackson
# 33.Mark Sanchez

Caddy
03-19-2009, 11:14 PM
Where is Luke McCown!!!!!

TimD
03-20-2009, 02:09 AM
1.Peyton Manning
2.Tom Brady
3.Drew Brees
4.Donovan McNabb
5.Kurt Warner
6.Ben Roethlisberger
7.Carson Palmer
8.Philip Rivers
9.Jay Cutler
10.Matt Ryan
11.Eli Manning
12.Chad Pennington
13.Tony Romo
14.Aaron Rodgers
15.Matt Hasselbeck
16.Matt Cassel
17.Matt Schaub
18.Joe Flacco
19.David Garrard
20.Kerry Collins
21.Kyle Orton
22.Brady Quinn
23.Jason Campbell
24.Marc Bulger
25.Shaun Hill
26.Jeff Garcia
27.Matthew Stafford
28.Trent Edwards
29.Jake Delhomme
30.Mark Sanchez
31.JaMarcus Russell
32.Derek Anderson
33.Tarvaris Jackson

jsa230
03-20-2009, 02:13 AM
I agree with the avg posit. of rodgers, although i wouldl liketo see him in front of romo

nobodyinparticular
03-20-2009, 02:54 AM
I would just like to point out that there are a minimum of 136 people who should have their internet privileges revoked for life.

I am one of the bigger supporters of Jamarcus Russell, but he has 136 votes for #1 overall? Ok, so maybe he and his mom saw this poll and had to participate--those two would be understandable. But how does one explain the next 134 picks? No. That's just ridiculous.

This is coming from a guy who ranked Russell (#17) higher than probably 95% of the posters here would rank him. But he does not deserve any 1st place votes.

soybean
03-20-2009, 03:08 AM
# Tom Brady
# 2.Peyton Manning
# 3.Drew Brees
# 4.Ben Roethlisberger
# 5.Philip Rivers
# 6.Kurt Warner
# 7.Tony Romo
# 8.Carson Palmer
# 9.Jay Cutler
# 10.Eli Manning
# 11.Aaron Rodgers
# 12.JaMarcus Russell
# 13.Donovan McNabb
# 14.Matt Hasselbeck
# 15.Matt Ryan
# 16.Trent Edwards
# 17.Jeff Garcia
# 18.Jason Campbell
# 19.Brady Quinn
# 20.Joe Flacco
# 21.Chad Pennington
# 22.David Garrard
# 23.Kerry Collins
# 24.Jake Delhomme
# 25.Derek Anderson
# 26.Shaun Hill
# 27.Matt Cassel
# 28.Matt Schaub
# 29.Marc Bulger
# 30.Matthew Stafford
# 31.Kyle Orton
# 32.Tarvaris Jackson
# 33.Mark Sanchez

this list sucks.

PACKmanN
03-20-2009, 03:30 AM
# Tom Brady
# 2.Peyton Manning
# 3.Drew Brees
# 4.Ben Roethlisberger
# 5.Philip Rivers
# 6.Kurt Warner
# 7.Tony Romo
# 8.Carson Palmer
# 9.Jay Cutler
# 10.Eli Manning
# 11.Aaron Rodgers
# 12.JaMarcus Russell
# 13.Donovan McNabb
# 14.Matt Hasselbeck
# 15.Matt Ryan
# 16.Trent Edwards
# 17.Jeff Garcia
# 18.Jason Campbell
# 19.Brady Quinn
# 20.Joe Flacco
# 21.Chad Pennington
# 22.David Garrard
# 23.Kerry Collins
# 24.Jake Delhomme
# 25.Derek Anderson
# 26.Shaun Hill
# 27.Matt Cassel
# 28.Matt Schaub
# 29.Marc Bulger
# 30.Matthew Stafford
# 31.Kyle Orton
# 32.Tarvaris Jackson
# 33.Mark Sanchez

lmao with Romo being that high.

wicket
03-20-2009, 03:42 AM
my list:
1.Tom Brady
2.Peyton Manning
3.Drew Brees
4.Carson Palmer
5.Philip Rivers
6.Ben Roethlisberger
7.Kurt Warner
8.Jay Cutler
9.Aaron Rodgers
10.Eli Manning
11.Matt Ryan
12.Donovan McNabb
13.Tony Romo
14.Joe Flacco
15.Matt Schaub
16.Matt Hasselbeck
17.Jeff Garcia
18.Brady Quinn
19.Matthew Stafford
20.JaMarcus Russell
21.Shaun Hill
22.Matt Cassel
23.Chad Pennington
24.Kerry Collins
25.Kyle Orton
26.David Garrard
27.Jason Campbell
28.Mark Sanchez
29.Jake Delhomme
30.Trent Edwards
31.Derek Anderson
32.Marc Bulger
33.Tarvaris Jackson

Note: I am really high on Carson and always thought he performed in spite of instead of because of the rest of the bengals offense.

Beans
03-20-2009, 05:34 AM
Where is Luke McCown!!!!!

yeah seriously guys

AntoinCD
03-20-2009, 07:12 AM
1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Drew Brees
4. Carson Palmer
5. Ben Roethlisberger
6. Philip Rivers
7. Kurt Warner
8. Jay Cutler
9. Donovan McNabb
10. Eli Manning
11. Matt Ryan
12. Aaron Rodgers
13. Matt Hasselbeck
14. Chad Pennington
15. Tony Romo
16. Jason Campbell
17. Matt Cassell
18. Joe Flacco
19. Kerry Collins
20. Matt Schaub
21. Brady Quinn
22. Trent Edwards
23. Jake Delhomme
24. Jeff Garcia
25. David Garrard
26. Jamarcus Russell
27. Kyle Orton
28. Marc Bulger
29. Derek Anderson
30. Shaun Hill
31. Tavaris Jackson
32. Matt Stafford
33. Mark Sanchez


This list is obviously debatable, but I simply don't see how how anyone can put Stafford and Sanchez(who haven't had one professional pass) about starting NFL QBs

wicket
03-20-2009, 07:30 AM
This list is obviously debatable, but I simply don't see how how anyone can put Stafford and Sanchez(who haven't had one professional pass) about starting NFL QBs

Because there was talent in the description and although i feel that adjusting to the pro game is a major talent and will put succesfull pro qbs over unproven stock it will not put guys who are proven not to be the goods over a guy like stafford or sanchez imo. This is obviously debateable but that is just how i look at it.

WAREhouse
03-20-2009, 07:50 AM
lmao with Romo being that high.

why LMAO, he has been extremely productive in his three years of starting, despite the media stigma that has been built around him. As a QB, he is certainly farther along than Eli Manning, though you could make a case for palmer or cutler being ahead of him.

IT's laugable to see some of you idiots put Romo behind the likes of Hasselback, Pennington, Rodgers, when he's clearly better and more productive than all of thse QBs.

Staubach12
03-22-2009, 07:08 PM
I personally think Rivers is #4 no question. He had the highest TD% (by more tan an entire percentage) and the best YPA in the NFL last year. If you saw him play, you know he's a baller.

bantx
03-22-2009, 07:31 PM
More love for Rivers yay

BlindSite
03-22-2009, 07:32 PM
Another huge waste of thread space.

Xonraider
03-22-2009, 07:59 PM
20.Brady Quinn
21.Matthew Stafford
22.Mark Sanchez
23.JaMarcus Russell

seriously?

PoopSandwich
03-22-2009, 08:53 PM
1. Derek Anderson
2-32. Everyone not blessed by god.

PACKmanN
03-22-2009, 09:16 PM
why LMAO, he has been extremely productive in his three years of starting, despite the media stigma that has been built around him. As a QB, he is certainly farther along than Eli Manning, though you could make a case for palmer or cutler being ahead of him.

IT's laugable to see some of you idiots put Romo behind the likes of Hasselback, Pennington, Rodgers, when he's clearly better and more productive than all of thse QBs.

sure, at fumbling the ball...

WAREhouse
03-22-2009, 09:43 PM
sure, at fumbling the ball...

He hasn't had that many fumbles, though he did have a lot in that one game against Philly..And he's produced better than all of those QBs over the last few years

bearfan
03-22-2009, 09:43 PM
I understand Kyle Orton is not the greatest QB in the league, and is very "middle of the pack", but he is not and should not be below guys like J.Russel, Brady Quinn ect. who have not done much. Chicago is not known for QBs, but Kyle did not do bad last season having 22total TDs to 15 total TOs. If anyone wishes to look that up, I believe that he only had 1 or 2 less TDs than Matt Cassel, and only one or two more turnovers. Im not saying he is as good, but if people are looking at the numbers, thats something to point out.

Also like another Bears fan stated, Kyle has close to a 66% winning record. He doesnt do it by himself, but he does contribute.

BlindSite
03-23-2009, 12:07 AM
1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Drew Brees
4. Philip Rivers
5. Ben Roethlisberger
6. Carson Palmer
7. Eli Manning
8. Donovan McNabb
9. Kurt Warner
10. Jay Cutler
11. Tony Romo
12. Aaron Rodgers
13. Matt Hasselbeck
14. Chad Pennington
15. Matt Ryan
16. Jason Campbell
17. Matt Cassell
18. Jake Delhomme
19. Kerry Collins
20. David Garrard
21. Joe Flacco
22. Trent Edwards
23. Brady Quinn
24. Jeff Garcia
25. Matt Schaub
26. Jamarcus Russell
27. Kyle Orton
28. Marc Bulger
29. Derek Anderson
30. Shaun Hill
31. Gus Ferotte
32. Luke McCown

Bolded = rising stock

Sveen
03-23-2009, 06:02 AM
My (maybe a little too) quick ranking.

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/544471/qb.png

abaddon41_80
03-23-2009, 06:28 AM
1.Peyton Manning
2.Tom Brady
3.Drew Brees
4.Ben Roethlisberger
5.Kurt Warner
6.Philip Rivers
7.Jay Cutler
8.Tony Romo
9.Donovan McNabb
10.Aaron Rodgers
11.Chad Pennington
12.Carson Palmer
13.Matt Ryan
14.Eli Manning
15.Shaun Hill
16.Matt Hasselbeck
17.Jason Campbell
18.Trent Edwards
19.Kyle Orton
20.Joe Flacco
21.Brady Quinn
22.Matt Schaub
23.David Garrard
24.Matt Cassel
25.Jake Delhomme
26.Jeff Garcia
27.Tarvaris Jackson
28.Kerry Collins
29.Marc Bulger
30.Derek Anderson
31.JaMarcus Russell
32.Matthew Stafford
33.Mark Sanchez

Ranked on production, not talent.

LonghornsLegend
03-23-2009, 07:43 AM
sure, at fumbling the ball...

All you do is come into these threads and look to pick at someone about Romo, get over it, he's been a highly productive QB since he's stepped in as a starter...He's still got alot to prove to be considered a top tier QB but there really shouldn't be that big of an argument if he's a fringe top 10 QB on some list, he's probably right outside the top 10 and depending on where you rank guys like Carson Palmer and McNabb it could go either way.

irishbucsfan
03-23-2009, 08:05 AM
Let the doubters doubt, fellow Buccaneer fans. The greatness of Luke McCown will be illuminated to all in good time.