View Full Version : 2 Round Mock with trades
BaLLiN
03-23-2009, 08:48 PM
ROUND ONE
1- 1- 1 Detroit- Jason Smith OT Baylor
1- 2- 2 St. Louis- Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
1- 3- 3 Kansas City- Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest
1- 4- 4 OAKLAND- Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech (trade includes pick #71 and 5th rounder)
1- 5- 5 SAN FRANCISCO- Matthew Stafford QB Georgia (trade includes future 2nd and #74)
1- 6- 6 Cincinnati- BJ Raji DT Boston College
1- 7- 7 SEATTLE- Andre Smith OT Alabama
1- 8- 8 Jacksonville- Jeremy Maclin WR/RS Missouri
1- 9- 9 Green Bay- Brian Orakpo DE/OLB Texas
1-10-10 CLEVELAND- Everette Brown DE/OLB FSU
1-11-11 NEW YORK JETS- Mark Sanchez QB USC (trade includes #76 and future 3rd)
1-12-12 Denver-Rey Maualuga ILB USC
1-13-13 Washington- Brian Cushing LB USC
1-14-14 New Orleans- Malcolm Jenkins DB Ohio St.
1-15-15 DETROIT- Vontae Davis CB Illinois (trade includes #82 and 6th rounder)
1-16-16 San Diego- Tyson Jackson DE LSU
1-17-17 BUFFALO BILLS- Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St.
1-18-18 MINNESOTA- Darius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland (trade includes # 86)
1-19-19 Tampa Bay- Peria Jerry DT Mississippi
1-20-20 HOUSTON- Chris Wells RB Ohio St.
1-21-21 Philadelphia- William Beatty OT UConn
1-22-22 CHICAGO- Eben Britton OT Arizona
1-23-23 PHILADELPHIA- Kenny Britt WR (trade includes future 3rd)
1-24-24 Atlanta- Evander Hood DT Missouri
1-25-25 Miami- Clint Sintim OLB Virginia
1-26-26 NEW YORK GIANTS- Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina (trade includes #125)
1-27-27 Indianapolis- Percy Harvin WR Florida
1-28-28 NEW ENGLAND- Clay Matthews ILB USC
1-29-29 BALTIMORE RAVENS- James Laurinitus LB Ohio St.
1-30-30 Tennessee- Jarron Gilbert DT/DE San Jose St.
1-31-31 Arizona- Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
1-32-32 Pittsburgh- Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest
ROUND TWO
2- 1-33 Detroit- Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma
2- 2-34 New England from Kansas City- Aaron Maybin DE/OLB Penn St.
2- 3-35 St. Louis- DJ Moore CB Vanderbilt
2- 4-36 Cleveland- Chase Coffman TE Missouri
2- 5-37 Seattle- Ron Brace DT Boston College
2- 6-38 Cincinnati- Alex Mack C California
2- 7-39 Jacksonville- Darius Butler CB UConn
2- 8-40 Oakland- Paul Kruger DE Utah
2- 9-41 Green Bay- Jamon Meredith OT South Carolina
2-10-42 Buffalo- Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
2-11-43 San Francisco- Phil Loadholt OT Oklahoma
2-12-44 Miami from Washington- Sean Smith CB/FS Utah
2-13-45 New York Giants from New Orleans- LeSean McCoy RB Pitt
2-14-46 Houston- Louis Delmas S Western Michigan
2-15-47 New England from San Diego- Jarius Byrd CB Oregon
2-16-48 Denver- Coye Francis CB San Jose St.
2-17-49 Chicago- Larry English DE/OLB Northern Illinois
2-18-50 Cleveland from Tampa Bay- Jared Cook TE South Carolina
2-19-51 Dallas- William Moore S Missouri
2-20-52 New York Jets- Brian Robiskie WR Ohio St.
2-21-53 Philadelphia- Donald Brown RB UConn
2-22-54 Minnesota- Troy Kropog OT Tulane
2-23-55 Atlanta- Rashad Johnson S Alabama
2-24-56 Miami- Ramses Barden WR Cal Poly
2-25-57 Baltimore- Connor Barwin LB Cincinnati
2-26-58 New England- Max Unger OL Oregon
2-27-59 Carolina- Sen’Derrick Marks DT Auburn
2-28-60 New York Giants- Andy Levitre OG Oregon St.
2-29-61 Indianapolis- Fili Moala DT USC
2-30-62 Tennessee- Cody Brown LB UConn (they’d probably trade down here)
2-31-63 Arizona- Robery Ayers DE Tennessee
2-32-64 Pittsburgh- Kraik Urbik OG Wisconsin
farfromforgotten
03-23-2009, 08:51 PM
Stafford is the only player I'd want the 49ers to trade up for. Awesome.
Not a fan of Loadholt, but I understand the pick.
Edit: thats a lot of trades in the 1st round.
SimonRath
03-23-2009, 08:55 PM
rashad johnson in the 2nd is amazing!
BaLLiN
03-23-2009, 08:58 PM
Stafford is the only player I'd want the 49ers to trade up for. Awesome.
Not a fan of Loadholt, but I understand the pick.
Edit: thats a lot of trades in the 1st round.
i know, trades are hard to do and most of them will be wrong in who is trading or whats given up, but i felt alot made sense. at least to me and i didnt do them much in the second because i got too tired of it.
As for Stafford i agree, and Loadholt is a boom bust pick, he could be an amazing RT or he could be a backup at G possibly, either way his build and athleticism are seldom found.
PalmerToCJ
03-23-2009, 09:05 PM
Nice Bengals mock.
Matthew Jones
03-23-2009, 09:07 PM
Doubt New England will draft two OLBs back to back. I'd change Maybin to a safety probably.
BeerBaron
03-23-2009, 09:09 PM
Pretty good Bears trade down, solid enough picks. I'm still not in love with Britton but he fits our biggest need and English is great value in the 2nd.
BaLLiN
03-23-2009, 09:10 PM
Doubt New England will draft two OLBs back to back. I'd change Maybin to a safety probably.
are you sure Matthews wouldnt be an ILB in a 3-4? he doesnt seem athletic enough to be outside, but more of a mental player
coordinator0
03-23-2009, 09:11 PM
OMG OMG OMG OMG. Worst Baltimore mock I've seen... Too painful...
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/atlkid666/FAIL.gif
Not only is LB a minor need, I highly doubt we go that back-to-back.
BaLLiN
03-23-2009, 09:18 PM
OMG OMG OMG OMG. Worst Baltimore mock I've seen... Too painful...
Not only is LB a minor need, I highly doubt we go that back-to-back.
yeah, okay, Bart Scott arguably your best pass rusher gone, Ray Lewis gone in a year or two. Your team is living by their defense, flacco's mistakes were erased by good play of your defense. I agree i dont see them going LB back to back but i dont think a WR is a way to solve the problems, especially ones in this draft which have all shown unimpressive sides to their play.
Also didnt like the value at WR there, and Heap is still a great target at TE
dan77733
03-23-2009, 09:34 PM
As a 49ers fan, that trade is horrible. We give up a future second rounder and our 2009 third rounder for a QB that the majority of us (including me) dont want or need. No thanks.
Dont have a problem with drafting Loadholt in the second round though.
BaLLiN
03-23-2009, 09:40 PM
As a 49ers fan, that trade is horrible. We give up a future second rounder and our 2009 third rounder for a QB that the majority of us (including me) dont want or need. No thanks.
Dont have a problem with drafting Loadholt in the second round though.
trading up 5 spaces into #5 for a player that could go #1 is pretty good value to me, but its your opinion on if they need a QB or not
I'm not sure about the picks but the trades are superior and it make this mock superior
Brent
03-23-2009, 09:49 PM
the majority of us (including me) dont want or need
Actually, I am sure most of us would be okay with that had Alex not restructured.
Babylon
03-23-2009, 09:50 PM
are you sure Matthews wouldnt be an ILB in a 3-4? he doesnt seem athletic enough to be outside, but more of a mental player
I think size would be Matthews issue on the outside, he's one of the more athletic linebackers out there.
thebow305
03-23-2009, 09:55 PM
Very Nice Phins draft!
proshoota25
03-23-2009, 10:43 PM
Doubt New England will draft two OLBs back to back. I'd change Maybin to a safety probably.
totally agree with ROP
Cerni88
03-23-2009, 10:52 PM
michael oher?
SimonRath
03-23-2009, 10:54 PM
michael oher?
ouchh.. i didnt know he had THAT bad of a combine..
dan77733
03-24-2009, 12:37 AM
Actually, I am sure most of us would be okay with that had Alex not restructured.
Not me. I didnt want any QB before Smith restructured his contract and dont want any QB now.
fenikz
03-24-2009, 01:28 AM
dont see Ayers falling that far, but i love it
gdamac
03-24-2009, 01:29 AM
Raiders only have 5 picks, if they trade 2 of them away to move up for Crab I shall be very upset.
BaLLiN
03-24-2009, 05:11 AM
michael oher?
OH CRAP NOOOOO yeah i knew i forgot something
yea replace cush with oher please.
RochesterRox19
03-24-2009, 08:18 AM
I don't have the Jimmy Johnson value chart in front of me, so feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, but I really don't think a 2009 3rd rounder and a 2010 3rd rounder is enough compensation for the Jets to go from 17th to 11th.
derza222
03-24-2009, 08:38 AM
I don't have the Jimmy Johnson value chart in front of me, so feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, but I really don't think a 2009 3rd rounder and a 2010 3rd rounder is enough compensation for the Jets to go from 17th to 11th.
I'm pretty sure it is since I looked a little while ago and the 2009 third alone moves us up in between the values for 12 and 13.
The Jets mock is solid. Robiskie doesn't really fill what we need at WR but at that point...
marshallb
03-24-2009, 08:41 AM
I don't think there is any way that Vikings trade happens, first of all, it is within the division, and also, we don't have a 4th or 6th round picks already, although we do have 2 7ths. Especially when it makes no sense to trade up, if we really want Heyward-Bey, the only team in between Chicago and us that could take him would be Tampa Bay, and they have bigger needs on defense, and it would serve a lot better to just stay at 22, and either hope that DHB falls to us, or if he doesn't, grab Nicks or Britt. Good 2nd round Vikings pick, although I'd rather stay at 22 and grab Britton, unless Chicago would take him at 18, and then in the 2nd grab Unger to provide depth and competition.
coordinator0
03-24-2009, 10:03 AM
yeah, okay, Bart Scott arguably your best pass rusher gone, Ray Lewis gone in a year or two. Your team is living by their defense, flacco's mistakes were erased by good play of your defense. I agree i dont see them going LB back to back but i dont think a WR is a way to solve the problems, especially ones in this draft which have all shown unimpressive sides to their play.
Also didnt like the value at WR there, and Heap is still a great target at TE
Ok, Scott was not our best pass-rusher. Suggs was easily the best guy we had for that. Plus we also drafted Tavaris Gooden in the early third round last year to replace him, and we also have Jameel McClain, Prescott Burgess, and the possibility of moving JJ inside. Either way we have a solid rotation of LB's at ILB and OLB, as well as youth. I can see the argument for an ILB, but James L. doesn't fit in a 3-4. He doesn't shed blocks well nor is he hat strong at the POA, which Bart Scott was good at. If Rey Maualuga were to somehow magically fall to us i'd jump all over him, but he probably won't.
As for WR, I'd rather go TE anyways. But you have Hakeem Nicks going in the spot that Baltimore should be drafting, yet you have them trading back. How is there not value for him at that point? I guess I could see us taking a LB if he was BPA, but James L. would not be that in the first. Barwin would be up there in the second, but I still think that we would shy away from taking a LB early. We haven't sone so when we've lost Peter Boulware, Ed Hartwell, and Adaluis Thomas. We're pretty good at finding the mid-late round LB that fits our scheme ala Bart Scott (undrafted) and Adalius Thomas (6th round).
BaLLiN
03-24-2009, 04:49 PM
I don't think there is any way that Vikings trade happens, first of all, it is within the division, and also, we don't have a 4th or 6th round picks already, although we do have 2 7ths. Especially when it makes no sense to trade up, if we really want Heyward-Bey, the only team in between Chicago and us that could take him would be Tampa Bay, and they have bigger needs on defense, and it would serve a lot better to just stay at 22, and either hope that DHB falls to us, or if he doesn't, grab Nicks or Britt. Good 2nd round Vikings pick, although I'd rather stay at 22 and grab Britton, unless Chicago would take him at 18, and then in the 2nd grab Unger to provide depth and competition.
well 1, chicago doesnt need Bey, they need a nicks like player, but right now nicks is going to be borderline 1st because of his being out of shape. Chicago, Tampa, and Philly all have needs for a #1. By trading with Chicago you secure DHB, where otherwise Kenny would be a worse Sidney Rice and Nicks wouldnt be great value.
TaintJohnson
03-26-2009, 02:23 PM
You have the Browns taking two Tight Ends in round 2.
I know people are hot for us to replace K2, but that might be a bit of over kill right there.
captainjack27
03-27-2009, 09:09 AM
Flip the picks around. Give us an OT like Merideth or Loadhalt in the 1st and a CB in the second
txparkes49x
03-27-2009, 09:53 AM
I'd be ok with stafford but i wouldnt wanna trade up for him. If he fall to #10 pick him. I love stafford compared to sanchez. ONLY if marvel smith does sign and that fills a need.
summond822
03-27-2009, 05:23 PM
1- 7- 7 SEATTLE- Andre Smith OT Alabama
In all honesty, Andre Smith will not be a Seattle Seahawk. Too many things about him just do not fit in the Ruskell mold, such as his questionable work ethic, character concerns, etc.. They would likely take Oher over him, regardless of how much potential Smith has as a prospect. Also, if Matthew Stafford falls to them @ 4, I very much doubt that they are going to pass on him. Hasselbeck is probably only going to be playing at a high level for 2-3 more years, so we need to take his eventual replacement in this draft somewhere.
2- 5-37 Seattle- Ron Brace DT Boston College
RB or S there over Brace. It's not that Brace won't be a good pick, but players like McCoy, Brown, Delmas, or Chung are all better picks that fill more immediate needs and will likely contribute immediately.
Rjspartan
03-27-2009, 05:25 PM
Thank You For Not Giving The Panthers A Qb!
Bohleive
03-27-2009, 05:41 PM
Ok, Scott was not our best pass-rusher. Suggs was easily the best guy we had for that. Plus we also drafted Tavaris Gooden in the early third round last year to replace him, and we also have Jameel McClain, Prescott Burgess, and the possibility of moving JJ inside. Either way we have a solid rotation of LB's at ILB and OLB, as well as youth. I can see the argument for an ILB, but James L. doesn't fit in a 3-4. He doesn't shed blocks well nor is he hat strong at the POA, which Bart Scott was good at. If Rey Maualuga were to somehow magically fall to us i'd jump all over him, but he probably won't.
As for WR, I'd rather go TE anyways. But you have Hakeem Nicks going in the spot that Baltimore should be drafting, yet you have them trading back. How is there not value for him at that point? I guess I could see us taking a LB if he was BPA, but James L. would not be that in the first. Barwin would be up there in the second, but I still think that we would shy away from taking a LB early. We haven't sone so when we've lost Peter Boulware, Ed Hartwell, and Adaluis Thomas. We're pretty good at finding the mid-late round LB that fits our scheme ala Bart Scott (undrafted) and Adalius Thomas (6th round).
What he said. Bart Scott has had 1 season with more than 5 sacks. In seven years he has something like 15. If youre gonna make an argument at least have some idea what youre talking about. LB wont be an early pick unless it's BPA.
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