college

[achilles109]

I have been accepted and received scholarships to both The Ohio State University, and the University of Hawaii for ROTC. The scholarship requires me to decide which school I will be attending no later than the 21st, but I am not able to visit Hawaii until April. If there are any students of the University of Hawaii at Manoa that read this board could you please let me know so i can get some information about it. thanks.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

hmm Ohio or Hawaii, tough choice man.

[achilles109]

eh its not so cut and dry... my whole family is in ohio, my mom works at osu, and i dont know anyone in hawaii, but at the same time this is a really good opportunity to get out and live on my own... in hawaii..

[DChess]

hmm Ohio or Hawaii, tough choice man.

im from ohio, and a couple of guys went out there for college, actually both for football, said they hated it, there on a island, and it jsut isnt what their used to. If your used to stuff liek that go there, but if your form the states, and ohio fits your bill go there, dont risk hawaii, becaus ei doubt that you would like it.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

eh its not so cut and dry... my whole family is in ohio, my mom works at osu, and i dont know anyone in hawaii, but at the same time this is a really good opportunity to get out and live on my own... in hawaii..

Well thats different, I was only looking at it as a location standpoint.

[frogstomp]

We are not you. We do not have full details of everything going on, or all the pros and cons for you as an individual.

Really, we can only offer you superficial advice, and if that's what you want, you shouldn't be going to University.

Make up your own mind with your friends and family, not random strangers.

[snuff]

I was going to say tOSU until you said you live 15 ******s from campus.

I would go to neither. Hawaii is just going to be weird and tOSU is way to close to home.

[bsaza2358]

I recommend going to visit each campus and staying there on your own. See if you feel at home at each. If you feel at home in Hawaii, make the move. If not, stay closer to home. This is a big decision, but it is also one you should make based on your own experiences.

[Beans]

All that stuff you said about Ohio is great and all, but...

IT'S FRIGGIN' HAWAII.

http://www.rootzreggae.com/IMGS/HawaiiLandscape3.jpg
http://www2.vuw.ac.nz/staff/lan_anh_tran/Pictures/waterfall.jpg
http://www.givecars.com/images/hawaii-beach.jpg

[bsaza2358]

Hawaii is a very expensive place to live, and perhaps not the best place to focus on one's studies. This is a very significant decision, and I can't blame anyone for having a little trouble coming to a conclusion...

[terribletowel39]

since all of us are football fans i am suprised no one has said Ohio simply based on there football tradition. that being said i am a real laid back person so i would choose hawaii in a heartbeat. 15 mins from campus is too damn close. F that. but like some other ppl have said, this should be a decision that you make on your own and really don't listen to any of us.

[snuff]

you must of missed the part where he said ROTC, meaning no beach nothing. They just march around and do homosexual army things like working on gun tossing.

[njx9]

jesus, go to hawaii. it's not like you can't transfer, and you'll likely never have a similar opportunity.

[frogstomp]

jesus, go to hawaii. it's not like you can't transfer, and you'll likely never have a similar opportunity.

njx = moderator
moderator = the man

You know the saying, stick it to the man.

I've got "stickittodamonitis".

Anyways.

Ignore njx.

[njx9]

did you just say i have tits?

[frogstomp]

No... nor would I have to, seeing as that's common knowledge.

Fatty!

[terribletowel39]

you must of missed the part where he said ROTC, meaning no beach nothing. They just march around and do homosexual army things like working on gun tossing.

haha true, but he would have some time off to enjoy himself. its not like they are complete dock (with a c) knockers 24/7. and no i am not in the ROTC.

[fischbowl]

I'm actually trying to get into two Ohio schools. (BGSU {Accepted} and CCMS)

Is there something wrong with me?

[jayceheathman]

D-UNIT could help you with this. He has the most school spirit for Hawaii that anyone I have seen. I guess it depends on whether or not you are an introvert or an extravert. If you are an extravert and are not afraid to get out and meet new people then Hawaii would be cool. I'm sure Samoans are way different from than the people in Ohio. If your an introvert and dont like change that much then Ohio State might be for you. Ohio State is also a much more demanding school than Hawaii so it also depends on how much you want to study and are focused on getting a good GPA.

[bearsfan_51]

Coming from somebody that's actually in upper-academia, Ohio State is a MUCH better school academically. If you actually care about that, and the scholorships are roughly the same, it's not even close.

You can get a good job with a degree and move to the beach if you're that concerned with weather. Don't short-change the importance of a good education becuase of something like that.

[bearsfan_51]

since all of us are football fans i am suprised no one has said Ohio simply based on there football tradition. that being said i am a real laid back person so i would choose hawaii in a heartbeat. 15 mins from campus is too damn close. F that. but like some other ppl have said, this should be a decision that you make on your own and really don't listen to any of us.
People that choose their college based off the sports teams are the dumbest people in the world.

[njx9]

Coming from somebody that's actually in upper-academia, Ohio State is a MUCH better school academically. If you actually care about that, and the scholorships are roughly the same, it's not even close.

You can get a good job with a degree and move to the beach if you're that concerned with weather. Don't short-change the importance of a good education becuase of something like that.

on the other hand, if you're not going to grad school, as long as the school is accredited, it makes absolutely no difference where you got the piece of paper (or, often, what the piece of paper says). moreso because a fair amount of the time, the undergrad level education has more or less the same degree of worthlessness because schools seem to let in anybody who can breathe.

[bearsfan_51]

on the other hand, if you're not going to grad school, as long as the school is accredited, it makes absolutely no difference where you got the piece of paper (or, often, what the piece of paper says). moreso because a fair amount of the time, the undergrad level education has more or less the same degree of worthlessness because schools seem to let in anybody who can breathe.

Well it's all relative. That being said, most people have no idea what they want to do so....

Generally just being in classes with smarter people (not that Ohio State is the academic mecca of the world or anything) can heighten the discourse.

I know for a fact that Ohio State is relatively restrictive in terms of attedance. Don't get me wrong, there are still a lot of meatheads, but I've seen much much worse.

[achilles109]

frogstomp i was asking if anyone here had been to hawaii so I could ask them questions about it, not trying to ask what you guys think... Im pretty sure that getting scholarships is a bit difficult and that Im not exactly stupid enough to throw away my education for good weather. The other side is that this is a once in a lifetime opportunity, and while OSU is the better school, Hawaii has the better ROTC program..... Im undecided in a major right now and I may make a career out of the army.

also i dont live close to OSU i live in Akron, over 180 miles away

[jayceheathman]

Coming from somebody that's actually in upper-academia, Ohio State is a MUCH better school academically. If you actually care about that, and the scholorships are roughly the same, it's not even close.

You can get a good job with a degree and move to the beach if you're that concerned with weather. Don't short-change the importance of a good education becuase of something like that.


Thats true as long you want to study much more. A person that has an A at Hawaii will get more jobs than someone that got a C at tOSU. I would base it on which place you will enjoy rather than which school is more difficult. If you enjoy the place then you will be more likely to get good grades than some place you hate.

[snuff]

A person that has an A at Hawaii will get more jobs than someone that got a C at tOSU.

Not necessarily... If he goes back to work in Ohio hes going to have a hard time finding anyone that knows anything about Hawaii academics, not to mention that he could get internships at tOSU that lead to places in Ohio.

If you live 180miles from tOSU then go there. It isn't even a hard decision for me and I am a michigan fan.

[bearsfan_51]

Thats true as long you want to study much more. A person that has an A at Hawaii will get more jobs than someone that got a C at tOSU. I would base it on which place you will enjoy rather than which school is more difficult. If you enjoy the place then you will be more likely to get good grades than some place you hate.
Do you hire? Or are you just pulling **** out of your arse?

[jayceheathman]

Do you hire? Or are you just pulling **** out of your arse?

It's common sense man. I would expect more from someone that is going to graduate school. An employer will look at that C and figure you did just enough to get by so you can get the degree. Granted if you get an A then thats a whole different story. I will put it this way. If you get an A in graduate school in Minnesotta I guarantee you will get the job over someone that didnt do so well at Harvard or Yale that you are competing against.

[njx9]

It's common sense man. I would expect more from someone that is going to graduate school. An employer will look at that C and figure you did just enough to get by so you can get the degree. Granted if you get an A then thats a whole different story. I will put it this way. If you get an A in graduate school in Minnesotta I guarantee you will get the job over someone that didnt do so well at Harvard or Yale that you are competing against.

you're wrong and completely underestimating the power of "connections" and "branding".

your argument is essentially "i would expect everyone to buy their suit from KMart rather than Armani if the BBB said they were better made than an Armani."

[Vikes99ej]

I'd go to OSU personally. I just couldn't be that far away from my friends and family.

[jayceheathman]

you're wrong and completely underestimating the power of "connections" and "branding".

your argument is essentially "i would expect everyone to buy their suit from KMart rather than Armani if the BBB said they were better made than an Armani."

Sure, if you happen to meet a potential employer while your their and get on his/her good side then consider you one of the lucky ones. If you were an employer who would you choose? Someone that worked hard and exceeded expectations at a lesser university or someone with tons of natural ability but refused to use it at an elite college?

[bearsfan_51]

Everyone gets A's in graduate school. Your GPA means next to nothing.

By the way, as someone that does educate, I can tell you that most people will rise to the discourse level that surrounds them. It's not a coincidence that education patters generally remain consistent in areas over time.

If you're a C student at Ohio State, you're probably going to be a C student everywhere else too, and if the education at another place is so low that you can get A's with the same kind of effort, it's still going to show in an interview.

Grades, like njx said, mean very little in regards to most interviews. They are much more concerned with your general level of knowledge, which can't be conveyed by a GPA.

[snuff]

GPA means a lot actually, but where you went to school means a lot more.

[njx9]

no one has ever, in the history of my having a job, cared or asked what my GPA was. no one ever will. it's irrelevant information.

again, your simplifying this too much, and likely because you haven't graduated college yet and are thus desperately trying to prove to yourself that it means something that you went to small town school X and are getting good grades there. it's just not relevant.

[bearsfan_51]

It's not completely irrelevant. But it's only a small piece of the puzzle unless you're doing something academically motivated. A lot of it depends on career goals, so to speak in generalities either way is pretty pointless.

[jayceheathman]

no one has ever, in the history of my having a job, cared or asked what my GPA was. no one ever will. it's irrelevant information.

again, your simplifying this too much, and likely because you haven't graduated college yet and are thus desperately trying to prove to yourself that it means something that you went to small town school X and are getting good grades there. it's just not relevant.

Your right in one aspect that over time employers will care more about what you have done in your past jobs more than where you went to college. Although, for your first job in that field employers have no information about you except for where you went to college and what your grades were. Most employers will ask for your transcript so they have your GPA which is probably why they havent asked you for it.

[snuff]

GPA and dedication lead to internships which lead to jobs.

[bantx]

How can you go wrong with hawaii good college, beaches, HAWAII!

[Paranoidmoonduck]

The general attitude towards foreigners in Hawaii isn't exactly ideal, and I've heard some dubious things about the school itself. Were I choosing, I'd go with OSU, but that's just me.

[achilles109]

Im still very much undecided, I would rather speak to D-unit then sort through the banter on this message board.

[njx9]

Im still very much undecided, I would rather speak to D-unit then sort through the banter on this message board.

i know, a whole two pages. who would expect a high school graduate to pick up on the important posts. you might've just, you know, pm'ed him instead of trying to underhandedly call everyone an idiot for messing up this thread.

[achilles109]

or perhaps i value everyones opinion, just some more than others....

[snuff]

or perhaps i value everyones opinion, just some more than others....

Its sad that you ask for opinions from people that you know nothing about and could have completely different views on things. I mean if you ask Damix how Long Island is he says great. You ask we I tell you its a run down piece of trash and the only reason the Easy coast exist is because of NYC and Florida.

[achilles109]

Its sad that you ask for opinions from people that you know nothing about and could have completely different views on things. I mean if you ask Damix how Long Island is he says great. You ask we I tell you its a run down piece of trash and the only reason the Easy coast exist is because of NYC and Florida.

its sad how you think you know more than you do, I asked if anyone from Hawaii could help me because I didnt know how many there were or who has been there. I did not make this post as a potluck for any 16 year old who has no idea what they are talking about to tell me that I should do something because "the football is better"

[snuff]

its sad how you think you know more than you do, I asked if anyone from Hawaii could help me because I didnt know how many there were or who has been there. I did not make this post as a potluck for any 16 year old who has no idea what they are talking about to tell me that I should do something because "the football is better"
I am sending in NJX to explain...

[snuff]

How do you double post when you hit edit... This board sucks!

[achilles109]

I am sending in NJX to explain...

and still no one cares.

[jayceheathman]

Its sad that you ask for opinions from people that you know nothing about and could have completely different views on things. I mean if you ask Damix how Long Island is he says great. You ask we I tell you its a run down piece of trash and the only reason the Easy coast exist is because of NYC and Florida.

I think thats why he posted so he can get other people's opinions about the schools. Choosing a college is a tough decision and he is trying to make the best one. It's a tough decision since he cant visit Hawaii until April so he was hoping someone had some insight on the school.

[achilles109]

I think thats why he posted so he can get other people's opinions about the schools. Choosing a college is a tough decision and he is trying to make the best one. It's a tough decision since he cant visit Hawaii until April so he was hoping someone had some insight on the school.

i feel so... understood :D jays right, im not looking for someone to say "go here because..." im looking for someone to say what Hawaii has to offer. I want to know if its boring there, if the facilities are good, how big the dorms are, things like that.

[TH3]

the cost of going to Hawaii will be far greater than tOSU so if money is a factor stay on this side of the pond

[snuff]

and still no one cares.

And you think we really care where you go to college? Seriously... Your clueless.

I said you shouldn't trust people talking about there own town and you spit out some nonsense about wanting to talk to d-unit and how I think i know more than I do or something... Either way I know more than you as I have gone through this :eek:

On a side note you would make a good buckeye...

[Damix]

and still no one cares.


I care.19 characters

[achilles109]

why do you care snuff, take a goddamn hint and leave. I figured you would understand that if you didnt care about it there wouls be no reason for you to post.

[Damix]

why do you care snuff, take a goddamn hint and leave. I figured you would understand that if you didnt care about it there wouls be no reason for you to post.

Again, when you make a thread on a forum you are gonna get everyones opinion, how do people not understand this?

[jayceheathman]

i feel so... understood :D jays right, im not looking for someone to say "go here because..." im looking for someone to say what Hawaii has to offer. I want to know if its boring there, if the facilities are good, how big the dorms are, things like that.

The school's website might be able to help you with some of that.

[snuff]

And there is no reason for this thread... Thats why I am here....

Let me tell you what Hawaii is like. Its like California. Let me tell you what California is like. Its like surfing. Let me tell you what Ohio is like. Hollister and cows. East and West coast dont mix.

Why don't you make a decision for once in your life by yourself...

[achilles109]

because making uninformed decisions about where to go to college could end up making me a bitter person who has nothing better to do than argue with people on a message board every night of hislife

[TH3]

D-unit>>>>>JBond

[Damix]

D-unit<<<<<JBond


Let me fix that for ya

[snuff]

because making uninformed decisions about where to go to college could end up making me a bitter person who has nothing better to do than argue with people on a message board every night of hislife

Yeah that is why you are making your decision without visiting the school and you are looking for answers from a forum with 1 person from Hawaii.

[achilles109]

that must be it

[snuff]

Just go to Hawaii and close this thread... I am sure people in Hawaii just love pasty white kids from Ohio that have spent their life on the farm.

[achilles109]

your cultural knowledge impresses me...

[TH3]

what is your complection?

[bantx]

wow people argue over the most pointless thing lol i mean hes asking which college is better not for a pointless arguement (snuff)

[achilles109]

i am in the 70% of Americans that are white, it was a good guess, like i said im impressed... Im even more impressed that he knew Akron was a farm

http://www.wooster.edu/admissions/area/images/akron.jpg

[snuff]

wow people argue over the most pointless thing lol i mean hes asking which college is better not for a pointless arguement (snuff)
Asking which college is better to a group of people that have never been to the college is pointless..

If he cared about college so much he would of figured out deadlines and visited the college himself, but it seems he was to busy.

And this whole forum is pointless arguing... Who will go #1 who will go #12002202... What do you expect from a forum...

Also since your new here let me introduce my self. I am snuff. I argue with everything stupid and most people hate me.

[TH3]

do you enjoy masturbating in warm of cold weather?

[bantx]

Asking which college is better to a group of people that have never been to the college is pointless..

If he cared about college so much he would of figured out deadlines and visited the college himself, but it seems he was to busy.

And this whole forum is pointless arguing... Who will go #1 who will go #12002202... What do you expect from a forum...

Also since your new here let me introduce my self. I am snuff. I argue with everything stupid and most people hate me.

Kinda noticed that in most of the threads...

[snuff]

Sorry... I mixed up farming with working in a rubber factory.

[achilles109]

Asking which college is better to a group of people that have never been to the college is pointless..
I didnt, i asked if there was anyone here who had been to hawaii, look it up its on page 1


If he cared about college so much he would of figured out deadlines and visited the college himself, but it seems he was to busy.
I had my bags packed and was ready to go to hawaii untill 2 days ago when i learned ohio state had given me a scholarship without letting me know I was being considered (hawaii was nice enough to call from to onset)


And this whole forum is pointless arguing... Who will go #1 who will go #12002202... What do you expect from a forum...


youre right, but you argue about that too, sad youre just addicted.


Also since your new here let me introduce my self. I am snuff. I argue with everything stupid and most people hate me.
snuff has no life, after losing a limb in the lawnmower accident, he is confined to his house and now he lives through his internet arguments, dont try to take that away from him, they are all he has.

[njx9]

or perhaps i value everyones opinion, just some more than others....

you'd be the first. "sorting through the banter" implies a lack of interest in reading anything posted, which would've been odd, given the question and that basically nothing discussed at that point was in any way off-topic.

[achilles109]

you'd be the first. "sorting through the banter" implies a lack of interest in reading anything posted, which would've been odd, given the question and that basically nothing discussed at that point was in any way off-topic.


since all of us are football fans i am suprised no one has said Ohio simply based on there football tradition.
I didnt feel this was really relevant, please go back and read my original post, dont just ******* assume what im saying.

[achilles109]

"If there are any students of the University of Hawaii at Manoa that read this board could you please let me know so i can get some information about it. thanks."
last line on page 1, been there the whole time

[Windy]

you should visit hawaii. you being from ohio and going to school in hawaii would be a major culture shock.

[njx9]

I didnt feel this was really relevant, please go back and read my original post, dont just ******* assume what im saying.

wow, one post, what a load of "banter" to sort through. i'm sure it took hours. although, based on the first two posts in the thread, i can't imagine why i would've come to that assumption. http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_roll.gif

[qute]"If there are any students of the University of Hawaii at Manoa that read this board could you please let me know so i can get some information about it. thanks."
last line on page 1, been there the whole time[/quote]

so has an immediate response to someone obviously not from hawaii. so let's get this straight... earlier in this post, a single post from someone qualified as illegible banter you just couldn't sort through. on the other hand, a much more complex single post early in the thread that still didn't answer your question in any way was easy to sort through. still having a hard time imagining why anyone would've ever seen the last comment as a bit of a backhand.

but then, no one ever would've figured on you taking the last post i made so personally, either. *shrug*

[bearsfan_51]

Im still very much undecided, I would rather speak to D-unit then sort through the banter on this message board.
If you value D-Unit's opinion above anyone's you're likely better off at clown college. Not to mention you're from Akron (where I actually currently reside for the next few months). Just go somewhere dude, it doesn't matter where.

Then again, my opinion doesn't matter, so I guess I'll just go **** myself or whatever.

[Vikes99ej]

So is this the official college thread or what?

[McBain]

yeah i had a bad experience with hawiians... ican't think of how to spell it right now. Anyway there i was going to school at Utah State one of my roomates was from Hawaii, he played LB/S pretty big dude.. one day i called him a ***** and he choke slammed me into a wall. So based on that i would say, go to hawaii.

[UKfan]

Thats true as long you want to study much more. A person that has an A at Hawaii will get more jobs than someone that got a C at tOSU. I would base it on which place you will enjoy rather than which school is more difficult. If you enjoy the place then you will be more likely to get good grades than some place you hate.

Actually I am just discovering that now and regretting my choice of University, I chose to go to a University with a great reputation but a difficult course, am subsequently going to end up with a lower class of degree than I would at 95% of other institutions, and it's meaning my career prospects suck.

[TheFranchise]

I would go to Hawaii and if I don't like I just transfer. But at least you gave it a shot and you saw how life is without your parents watching your every move.

[Eaglez.Fan]

Is this an official college thread or what?

[njx9]

So is this the official college thread or what?

Is this an official college thread or what?

echo......

[achilles109]

If you value D-Unit's opinion above anyone's you're likely better off at clown college. Not to mention you're from Akron (where I actually currently reside for the next few months). Just go somewhere dude, it doesn't matter where.

Then again, my opinion doesn't matter, so I guess I'll just go **** myself or whatever.

youre wrong if you think im basing this on opinions, I didnt know d unit was the only one who had been to hawaii, I just wanted to know things about the campus that werent listed on their website. Im not interested in opinions, I dont know how many times I have to say that untill people can understand.

I did not ask for people to tell me where to go, I asked who has been to hawaii...
anyway you are an educator from akron, and one of the few people here who doesnt talk out of their ass, so dont think Im not considering what you said earlier.

I dont know if I am allowed to transfer, the scholarship is like signing a commitment to the army, I am looking into it though.

[bearsfan_51]

Is this due to the location of bases or something? You may have already stated that and I missed it somewhere.

By the way, I was just kidding around. I probably wouldn't give a **** what anyone else thought in terms of my life decisions either.

[Staubach12]

I personally hope to go to LSU and major in Mass Communication.

[achilles109]

I personally hope to go to LSU and major in Mass Communication.

well I already pmed d-unit and asked some questions, you guys can keep this thread if you want to talk about your colleges.

[snuff]

I go to University of Arizona this year and University of Texas next!

[RWFender1]

id go Ohio State because i couldnt live on an island all year even if it is paradise. ultimately its a decision you got to make for yourself

[RWFender1]

I go to University of Arizona this year and University of Texas next!

does that mean you will be a Longhorn fan next year instead of a Michigan fan?

[snuff]

does that mean you will be a Longhorn fan next year instead of a Michigan fan?

Nope. I will be a semi-texas fan though.